Bigfoot Society - What Really Happened in my Bigfoot Research: A Conversation with Sonya Zohar

Episode Date: November 11, 2024

Sonya Zohar, a Bigfoot researcher, recounts her decades-long investigation into the mysteries of Bigfoot. Sonya shares her initial skepticism, vivid encounters, and paranormal experiences in various locations including Montana, British Columbia, and in California. She details her first expedition where she felt an unexplainable connection with the elusive creature and the subsequent hitchhiker phenomenon where unexplainable events occurred at her home. Sonya also discusses her experiences with mind speak and the strange occurrences around researchers like Mike Paterson. Additionally, she reflects on the emotional and possibly health-related impacts of her research. This interview offers an insight into the blend of scientific inquiry and paranormal phenomena surrounding Bigfoot.Resources:Gofundme for Sonya: https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-sonya-zohars-peaceful-transitionSonya Zohar on Flash of Beauty videos:Flash of Beauty documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIcse6kazn81st video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kz_SMaaThxc2nd video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll8V8yemmHoRandy Brisson's channel:https://www.youtube.com/@SasquatchRandySasquatch Ontario channel:https://www.youtube.com/@SasquatchOntario🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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I was glad I was able to interview Sonia when I did, and please enjoy this interview. All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of interviewing Sonia Zohar today. Sonia is a Bigfoot researcher based out of Washington State. How are you doing today, Sonia? I'm doing well today, Jeremiah. Thank you for asking. I have a lot of my friends and family know.

And I am in late stages cancer. So I'm short of breath sometimes. So I might sound a little funny while we talk. But that's what's kind of going on right now. And so just let the audience know that right away. Yeah. Absolutely. I think that's a great place to start.

I was introduced to you by a mutual friend, Tobin Johnson, who had told me that you were at the point where you were wanting to make sure that your story was fully, fully shared. And there'd been more than a few things that you haven't. really shared throughout your life about your research. So we're going to spend that time today to give you the chance and the opportunity to share what you would like to have shared about your life. Let's start at the beginning. What was it that first got you into your Bigfoot research?

Well, that in itself, to me, looking back on it, and that's kind of the point of this. And as you know, I've spent, I've been researching since 2007. And I've done physical expeditions and physical research. And I've also done a lot of obviously theoretical research. But given that all of these years, you know, the most important thing is, to me, was always to maintain a certain level of credibility. while also like trying to share as much truth as possible. But the reality of my experience, you know, as it turns back, as I look back, you know, really about 80% of what I was dealing with was paranormal.

20% was physical. Yeah, you'd find a track every now. Every now and there'd be a rock throw, you know. You'd find the one-twist breaks. and you know you find physical evidences but the interactions were always more than something natural. To give you an example, the first, my first expedition in Montana itself was pretty paranormal, but even more so, you know, I completely had the hitchhiker effects and I never talked about that, where after I was in Montana for my first expedition, when I came home,

All of these things were happening at my home. And even, like I said, my interest in Bigfoot, looking back on it, does seem a little strange. And why I say this is because I actually didn't believe in Bigfoot. And I love anthropology. Giant Fossey and Jane Goodall and Ian Redman are like my heroes. And I never believed in Bigfoot because I believed in that misconception. like a lot of people, if something was that big in the forest, we'd have to know. Like, there's no way with all the cameras and technology and people hiking.

But if something that large was roaming the forest in North America, that we'd had to have seen it and known about it. But so I never believed in it. And then I watched the television show. I had some friends of mine when I lived in Los Angeles kind of lovingly pushing. bully me into watching a big foot show, which I had no interest in. But I sat down with my friends. We had some beers.

We watched his big foot show. And Jimmy Tulcott was on the show, and he talked about the significance of Dermal Ritches and that the cast he was given to analyze at Dermal Ritches. And then he said, you know, he would stake his 20-year career that we had an unknown, a bipedal, primate in North America. and when he said that, I just, something in me literally, like my whole essence, my whole being sifted, and my whole life just slipped to Bigfoot. I mean, I literally went to my computer, and the energy was I had to know for myself. There was nothing to prove I wasn't going to go out and prove Bigfoot existed.

like, I just had to know for me if it did. I just couldn't imagine that we would have an eight to ten foot tall, you know, primates in our forest in North America. And they had not been discovered. Like, that just didn't make any sense to me whatsoever. And the first thing I did was watch the Patterson film for over a year. And I didn't really watch too much commentary. I just watched the film, I mean the film every night over and over again to prove. to myself that I believed it was legitimate or I believed it was fake. And once I came to

the determination for myself that it was completely legit, it's not a fake, and mostly because Patty has breasts. Researchers don't, you know, point that out, but with ourselves

and say if it was a costume, even today in our human augmentations, when women get breast implant, they don't move yet here in 67 you have a costume with moving breast on them like no if we can't do that at the highest technology that we have today then there's no way in 1967 that those cowboys pulled off moving breasts on a so tall being walking through the forest And so that was kind of the clincher for me.

I was like, this film is legitimate. And why I'm saying, like, even this whole experience is a little paranormal is because I've never obsessed on anything like this. My personality is kind of like a tumbleweed. I enjoy all life. I've moved a lot. I've had many different careers, many different stages of my being, that I've enjoyed all of them,

but I'm not someone to work at the same insurance job for 20 years. Like that's just not my personality. I might work there for four years, but not 20, right? So for me to be so obsessed and just like passionately from the heart obsessed, it was noticeable. You know, that was weird to me. Like, what is this thing called Bigfoot? that I'm just completely enthralled with in every essence, you know, my scientific mind and the part of my essence that believes in the paranormal.

You know, I'm an empath, so as a child, and as an adult, I do experience ghost. I'm not a dabbler, meaning I don't need to promote that energy in my life. I've never promoted it or never utilized it because I've always felt like Nietzsche says, if you stare into the abyss too long, the abyss stares back. Well, that is the truth about ghosts. Once they know if the haunting is conscious, not all hauntings are conscious, but if the haunting is conscious and you're aware of it, then it becomes aware of you. And to me, that was always really creepy.

I didn't like it. and so my whole life I just dismissed that, avoided it. I knew it was part of my life, but I wouldn't be someone who would open up, you know, let's go look for ghost hunters, like, no, I don't need to play with that. And that's how I really feel. I felt I was called to do this research, and it was beyond my control even to do it.

I was just so passionate about it. Everything after that show in 2007, became Bigfoot in my life. And then on my first expedition when I was flying into Montana and I'm at the window seat and I look over this mountain path and I get this like energy

I call, for me being an empath is you feel know something. You just feel know it. And I get this energy. Oh, they travel across here. And I was looking at the tops of the mountains. And then I said, What?

To myself, like, what do you mean nature? But I knew. I knew that Sasquatch was already speaking to me. Like, again, I dismissed that a little bit, but right at the get-go, right at the outset. And then we get out to this territory, and, you know, my first time out, you know, I have the Bigfoot experience, which again, is not common. You know, there are researchers who have been in the field for 30 years. And yeah, they find tracks. They find tree breaks.

They hear things. But having a full-on experience of them may or may not happen for them. And for me, it did, like, right away, like, on the first time. And even that was really strange. Like, I got it. Like, who does that? Who goes out in the forest the first time with the intention to look for Bigfoot, the Southwatch?

And they have the experience. and my first day there, hiking in Lewis and Clark National Park, I found a track. And then every night something would show up at our trailer and throw rocks at my trailer every night. And then there were very strange vocalizations that my colleague said was Bigfoot, but still I wasn't convinced,

even though I have this hunch that Bigfoot could be real. I still wasn't thoroughly in my mind believing it. And although I was compelled to find out. And so over the course of eight or nine days, we had some sort of interaction every night, culminating on the last two days where one vocalized me. And it had gone through the series of, It started off by at the end of the night when the sun was going down.

My colleague and I, we were leaning up against the fence looking at this private property that was a hunting property. And we were watching the elk come out into this meadow for the night. And the elk were pretty far away. Like I would say from where I was standing, three football fields. The elk were super tiny when we were looking at them. but we could see him across this big meadow, and the sun was setting. And then all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there was this loud crack like lightning.

And my colleague looked at me, I looked at him, and he said, that's probably a bull elk breaking a branch. They do that. And I'm like, okay. And also I'll let you know, too. I'm always kind of a city kid. and so I don't really I didn't at that time know a lot about

you know like elk habits or even I had to go home after that trip and just do all of my studying on vocalizations and getting a good grasp and like what a deer can sound like what an elk can sound like what a raccoon, a fox

you know the things that we might hear in the forest so I could vet those things you know and I learned my vocalizations really well Right off the bad. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls.

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And then, so let's say that crack was at 11 o'clock. And then there was a loud crack at like 9 o'clock. And then there was a loud crack at 7 o'clock. And then there was a loud crack directly behind me at 6. and they were like many lightning strikes. And they happened successfully like crack, so they were fast. And my colleague said, are you ready to confront? And I was looking at him like, what do you mean?

There was a strange noise. What are you talking about? And he said, Sonia, nothing moves that fast in the forest. We have a Sasquatch here. and I was like, okay, this is crazy. I don't know if I believed this. You know, like, but the one thing I did definitely take in, and all of this research was I made myself, remember,

I bought the ticket, take the ride. So if an experienced researcher is telling me Sasquatch is there and asking me if I can confront, and he told me to go walk into the tree line and say something or do something, I did it. You know, there's no other guide to this kind of work. And so I walked into the tree line and I started talking, but then it didn't seem like there was anything there. And I honestly didn't even know what to say, you know, because, you know, what are you supposed to say to a Sasquatch in the forest, right? Especially when you still quite don't believe.

And I said, well, I'll just treat it like I would any other animal, if there'd been a deer there or an elk there, I would talk to it. That's just my nature. I love animals. And so I was like, hi, who's here? Like, where are you? Because one of the things about my whole experience dealing with Sasquatch is, quite honestly, I never got the visual. I never saw them. I never saw them physically.

I heard them, experienced them, but, you know, much to my disappointment, you know, I've never felt my research was over because I actually never did see them, you know? And that's kind of a shame after all these years. But anyway, there's no energy, no noise. So the sun had gone down by this time. My colleague was getting nervous because he didn't want to be there. after dark with them and say let's go back to the ATV and go back to camp and I'm like okay so we get back to the ATV and was really interesting I kept looking at the ATV and I knew somebody had been there and I even asked my colleague I said hey look at the ATV right now is something out of place

he's like no he goes why do you ask and I go I just feel like somebody's been here and it's kind of like that feeling you get like maybe you leave your house and you didn't close your door all the way and when you get home your door's kind of half open and you're like I always lock my door and then you kind of walk in your house kind of slowly to see what's going on and why your door's open and nobody's there and then you're kind of like okay that was strange, whatever, and you just go about your business. That's kind of how I felt about the ATV. When we walked upon it, I felt like somebody had been there. It was a very strong sense of that. And then we walk over to the ATV, and we start to load up to go, and there's a much softer crack now across this little, like, it wasn't even a logging road, more like a snowmobile road in the winter,

this tiny little dirt path that we were on. the tree line is across from us, and there's a soft crack. And now I am really intrigued. It's super intrigued. And I'm not really paying attention to my colleagues or, like, safety. Now I'm super curious. And I'm like, who's there? Where are you?

And then I'm like, can you make another noise? And then snap. And so I go back and forth for about 20 minutes asking it, for a response and actually getting one. And I would get a soft crack or that sound people say they make, which I've heard that kind of sounds like a pop, you know. And you can make that noise by when you put your finger in your mouth and you just pull along your cheek and it makes kind of a pop noise.

That's what it sounds like. And so it was back and forth between those sounds and I was following them. and then I realized I was pretty far into the tree line and my colleague was still backed by the ATV and little did I know at that time this is all hindsight my colleague at that time was really afraid of them he did the research

but he always had a gun with him he I don't know what the situation was with him about them him then not liking him maybe he forced his way into their territories, but it became obvious years later that anytime I had been with him, the Sasquatch were more like hostile throwing rocks and big ones, like not like I'm over here

kind of thing, right? But nevertheless, I'm following these noises, these sounds into the tree line, and then all of a sudden I realize there's quite a distance between me and my colleague and that was one of the first things he said to me was you have to know Sonia that if one gets a hold of you I can't catch it I can't track it you'll be gone do you get that and I'm like yeah it's funny like you know I did get that like that's we're doing research on an unknown animal anything could go wrong you know plus sometimes when people give you warnings like that you don't heed them until you actually experience that phenomena, right?

Anyway, but in that moment, when I realized the distance that had been made between me and my colleague, I sat down on a log and said, you come here. I'm not going any farther. I go, you have to come here now. I've come a long way. You've got to meet me in the middle. So wherever you are, come out. I want to see you.

And I would say things like that. Like, I came all the way here from California, just to see. you and meet you. What are you? Where are you? And I could just tell that the forest went silent after that. After I sat down and said I wouldn't follow it, the forest just went quiet. And so I got back on the ATV, very excited. My colleague was really freaked out. He said he'd never seen anyone, like, asked for a phenomena from them and, like, interact like that. He'd never seen anything like that. So he was thrilled. I was thrilled. We come back the next day, which just happened to be my last day there. And because early the next Saturday morning, I had a flight out.

So basically this was it. We went and spit the day there. We had some of that interaction right off the bat. But as soon as I said, I'm only going as far, the energy just kind of left. And so finally I just looked at my colleague said, well, if they want us to go this way, Let's go. Let's just go. And so we hiked back in there for a couple of hours, and nothing really happened. We had a moment where we both looked over our shoulder at the same time, so something was around us, but something spooked us, but that also could have been a wild animal. We just both, it was very interesting, we're just sitting there, and we both turned over our right shoulders and looked really hard, and we hadn't heard anything. We both just kind of felt something.

But that was all that happened. And so we've got to go break down camp and get me ready to have my flight early in the morning. And so we leave. And of course, on our way out, and that's another phenomenon that I have experienced is that Sasquatch, follow you out. They may not show up while you're there, but when you leave, they follow you out for some reason. anyway, it may have to do with the fact that they really do have a sense of humor. And so they kind of know you've been there all day, and then when you leave, they show up, and it's almost like a teasing or a taunting, or it could be territorial.

If we go more the scientific part of it, it may want to know that you are definitively out of its territory. Right? And so those are like I'm saying, like the two lines, the two systems and things, that you kind of have to have. You know, there could be this paranormal aspect, but there could be this completely natural reasoning for it. And so that's another reason why I was always soft on talking about the paranormal because there could be other, we're dealing with the new species of animal, and so lots of things could happen that we're not aware of.

Anyway, scientifically. And so there we are. last day, getting on the ATV, and it shows up. And it made a loud crack. And I had just started to grab an apple to eat for myself because I was starving. And just when that happened, and so I grabbed a second apple and went through caution to the wind because I'm so curious now to what is happening. And something definitely is happening.

I run back into the forest. and I'm pretty far into the tree line and I ask. I said, okay, I have this apple for you. It's really good. It's a gift. You can eat it. But you have to show me where you want it. You have to show me.

And all of a sudden, like out of the blue, out of a non-windy day, these three tall pine trees started shaking back and forth, almost like hitting each other. like it was no small movement. They were a good-sized pine trees, and probably, you know, 10 inches in diameter, which is not huge, but like I said, not small either to move, and these three trees just started shaking back and forth, shaking back and forth, and I'm like, okay, that's where you want it. So then I ran over to the trees, and I climbed up on another tree, and I stuck the apple up pretty high, so like a deer wouldn't be able to necessarily, as high as I could get it up there,

so that whatever I was leading this apple for, it could get to it. And based on the idea that it would be Sasquatch. And as soon as I took the apple up there and started eating mine and explaining that they could eat it, again, I didn't know any of, I'm totally naive to the whole research thing, right? So I didn't know people have been given the foods and apples and all this stuff. I just watched the Gimlet film and then met up with someone to take me up in the forest. And anyway, all of a sudden, on my right side, from this very dense, bushy kind of area where I really couldn't see in there, I heard a vocalization. and it was a long, grovely, growl, grumble, but not aggressive.

It wasn't like a hiss or, you know, nothing aggressive, but the crazy and most beautiful thing about it was, is it was honestly punctuated by a question mark at the end. So my breathing and my vocal range will not allow me. to do exactly what I heard, but I'll give you a little short version. So basically, all of a sudden, I hear this like the question mark at the end. And I didn't know what was happening. I didn't know what was going on. And I turned and I looked towards my colleague who was at the ATV, squatted behind the ATV with a gun. And hindsight

makes me wonder after all these years because what I really, again, I was naive when I went in, why hadn't he pulled out a camera instead of pulling out his gun? So there's a part of me that may suspect that he really just did want to shoot one and maybe that's why they

didn't like him. So, because I've never been able to answer that question. Like in all of that interaction, that was basically his job was to protect me, yes, but more importantly, to film. And he never pulled out a camera. So I'll leave that at that. So I turned to him after this vocalization, and I scream at him at top of my lungs, are you effing with me? Are you effing kidding me? You know, are you playing me right now? like what is going on and he just raised his hands up in the air and he said and with a gun in one hand don't kid yourself and he said i'm right here i'm not doing anything he says keep talking just keep

talking and so then i talked some more and then it vocalized again but the truth was it was sunset i had a six a m fly it out totally naive to this whole process and and realized that I had to go. And so I just said, dude, I'm so sorry, but I have to leave. I have to leave in the morning. And I'm so happy that you're here, and here's an apple for you. I think, too, I was in a little bit of a state of shock because I didn't know what was going on. So it's hard for your, it was hard for my brain to process this kind of crazy phenomena that was happening.

And so especially the vocalization. Like, what was that? You know, and part of me was so still new at this research. Like I said, I wasn't totally a believer when I went into the forest the first time. And so I was a little bit discombobulated by it all and naively left. I should have canceled my flight and stayed forever. But nevertheless, we drive away, get a little bit of it. on the ATV and we drive back, begin to drive back to camp. And this is when I really realize

that this was paranormal. Like there's no doubt that it's biological, but it also is paranormal. And that's because as we started to maneuver the ATV back up this hill and we're moving away from, you know, it's where I just had this experience, all of a sudden everything. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel...

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Like it felt like when you break up with a significant. other and you're the heartbroken one. It was just so hard and so sad and I started crying and it was and I'm observing myself because this is an out of context emotional response and this is part of Sasquatch Phenomena right? Here I am crying because I'm leaving and I can't even figure out why I would be crying over that and then I turned my head back and looked where I just had that interaction and it was it came to me very clear it said Sonia this is him you're having this is him he's sad that you're leaving and then that's like when I said we drove off and it sealed the deal for me that this was 20% biological and 80%

what the heck is going on paranormal. And so, but I am a science girl. You know, I have an education, and I like things to be testable, repeatable. And so in my own research, you know, I wanted to maintain a certain air of credibility. And I think a lot of people who deal with the paranormal aspect of it, that's what they're trying to do is maintain credibility. in a field where it's really hard to have credibility just because by the nature of the fact that you're in that field. And I think that's why you have a lot of big footers who completely yell at the paranormal people

because they want it to be 100% biological. And it's not the way we understand biology. That was like my first experience and that's when I really knew that. something was up and then, you know, when I got home, I had the hitchhiker effect, which I told no one about, except for

my close colleagues, at all. And what that means is the hitchhiker effect is that the phenomena follows you home and you start having things happen around your home. And I did. I would come home

and find tree branches stuck in the earth, you know, at least six inches deep with no explanation, all of a sudden, and I would come home and find sticks like that. Sometimes they didn't even make sense. All you had to do is touch him, and they would, like, fall over, like, they were so, they were so, like, uniquely placed that they were also placed in a kind of balance. And I can only say this is a phenomenon because it never happened before. I lived on that property. for over five years. And I never found that until after I came home from Montana. I was given

gifts and trails and one time a deer, and I will say a deer because I was flying out early in the morning. And the night before, I had heard this crazy scream in my backyard. And it did not sound like a deer although it could have been the deer based on what I discovered. Then in the morning, and I didn't go out at night to check out what that was, because we also had cougars in my area, and I'd seen them on my property before. So, yeah. Anyway, I woke up in the morning, get in my car, and I see behind my house, I see vultures circling.

And I'm like, that's really strange. And so I went out into my backyard to see what it was. was, and there was a deer there, but the crazy thing was about it is that there was a perfect circle cut out of its abdomen area. It was a perfect circle, and there was like nothing in there. So it was so hard to explain. It was just like blood. And so, but the thing was, the cut on it was a perfect circle. Now, if there's a hunter out there right now that's going to say, oh, I've seen perfect circles cut into carcasses, then maybe it was the cougar. But from all I know is a cougar leaves, which had happened before is cougar leaves heads. They leave a head.

You come out on your property and there's a deer head. That's what you find when a cougar's in there. So like I said, if I'm mistaken in that, then I'm, am, but I've not talked to anybody who could explain the perfect circle. And the vultures hadn't landed yet. It was so bizarre. It was the weirdest thing. And I know Randy Brisson has also been left gift of deer and elk. One time he got out of his tent, and there were elk legs hung in branches around his tent. And so they do bring gifts like cats. Sometimes those gifts may not be so palatable for us, but nevertheless, they do it.

Then also, that's the place where I received my heart rock, one of the most beautiful things. And if you watch a flash of beauty, you can see those rocks. and you can see, you'll be able to physically see what I'm talking about. But I had taken, my property backed up to 200 acre like non-developable land. It was owned by the federal government. It wasn't a park. But there had been, in that marsh back there, there is a lily that only grows in that Mars, one place in the whole planet.

And so the government came in and took 200 acres and made it, non-developable pool. So I had this amazing wildlife corridor that ran through my property, and I love that. But the truth is, there were never any people back there. As long as I lived there, I was like I said, there for five years, and I was out there every day because I do photography. And so I was out there all the time, and I did nature photography for quite some time. And so I was always out there.

I never saw another human walking back. there ever. So one day I decided to leave a crystal in an oak tree back there hidden and just to see what would happen because now I was starting to acknowledge that I had a hitchhiker. And because there's part of me not even acknowledging it. So many things happened like my wood pile would be messed with. I would come out. I have and I have pictures of these where my chopping block, which was this massive redwood round. Literally, I couldn't really lift it myself, not because it was so heavy, more that it was so heavy and so awkward. I couldn't lift it alone. There's no way. And I came out one morning to get some wood, and the wood block is on top of the wood pile. And I'm just like, really?

Like how, who did that? Are my, you know, are my neighbors that are about a mile away sneaking over here at night, messing with me because they know I do Bigfoot. Like, how does that happen? So things like that happened all the time. And again, I would just say, okay, all right, that happened. And then, like I said, part of me just wouldn't, just like, okay, I would be a bit dismissive. And so finally, I decided to play, and I left a tiger eye, heart-shaped crystal in an oak tree in that area out there. And I had come back. I left it out there for six weeks, and nothing had happened.

And it had moved sometimes, like I knew it was facing this way, or it had moved, but again, you know, a squirrel, a raven could do that easily. But it never fell off the tree. It would be moved, but not off the tree. had a special little like crevice that I put it in. Anyway, after six weeks I decided that nothing was happening, so I should just bring the heart back. I'm like, okay, all right, nothing's going on out here.

Bring that heart back. And so the next morning I woke up, and on my doorstep, on my doorstep was a natural rock that was a heart shape that was literally almost the same identical size as my crystal, shape and everything. Matter of fact, the crystal, there was a part of the crystal that had this vein that didn't polish smooth because it was a little too deep. And this rock, this naturally formed rock hearts had the same crevasse. they were, it was out, it was unbelievable. You know, and again, I have talked a little bit about this, you know, about the paranormal

side because it also was so beautiful. Like, I love those hearts. They're amazing. Like, how does that happen? And, you know, and again, I never saw Sasquatch. Everything I am talking about is the phenomena of Sasquatch. So there's a part of me that wonders, you know, like what paranormal thing it really is. How did something follow me home and play with me like that?

Exactly. Sonia, I've got more than a few questions. This whole account is absolutely incredible. At any point when you got back home, did you start having very vivid dreams or start hearing voices or anything like that? Well, that's very interesting because that would only happen when I was around Mike Patterson. And I worked with Mike Patterson out of Toronto, and I do know that there's a large part of the community that doesn't believe him.

And, you know, it's really sad. But what I can tell you is that his area is the most paranormal. I've ever been in. Hands down. The most paranormal. And Mike and I worked together for a while, and he came out to California, and when I was around him, I would get visuals like there was one, like a white, a white Sasquatch. I would see it just pop into my mind, you know?

And it happened several times while we were working together out in California. it. And then the first, the first craziest thing that happened, it was when I went out the first time to his territory, and I walked into this cabin. We opened the door, and he walked ahead, you know, and he picked his room and took his stuff into where he was going to stay. And then I walked in and started putting the stuff in my room. And I hear this, I heard that call, that might call he says where Nefatia says Mike, like I heard it plain as day and so

I walked back over in this room and I'm like, what are you doing? And he's like, I'm just unpacking, you know, getting my stuff out. I go, did you play Neff's voice? And he's like, no, what are you talking about? You know, I go, did you play a recording? He's like, no. You know, he's totally oblivious to what happened

and I clearly heard that. So yeah, I did have mind speak. but mind speak for me was heightened when I was around Mike Patterson and Randy Brisson. Randy Brisson's territory is pretty amazing and well, well habituated. You know, Mike Patterson's been going to his territory for years now. I don't know, like 12 years or something. 10 years, you know, and Randy Brisson, he was raised in those woods, you know. He's in British Columbia. And his territory, you know, from the age of zero to 16, he ran that territory barefoot.

He didn't wear shoes back there. He was definitely part of that territory. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Let's go, girls. So you've been taking one of these little pink pills daily? Yeah. And you feel. Uh-huh.

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walking away from a tree, actually just starting to stand up and move away from the tree. And it's autumn orange. Like autumn red, it's orange. Like, I don't think that's a bear. I've never seen an orange bear. So, and it doesn't, the shape of it actually still doesn't really look like a bear. So, those two people, when I would work with them, the phenomena would just be off the chart.

I had in Randy's territory, like right in a row. And I don't know what this means. Like maybe they didn't want me back there. They didn't like me or Randy that day. But, you know, I saw two trees go down. And one day within 20 minutes of each other. And about, you know, a block apart kind of. and they were big, massive trees.

I don't know how many people have seen a tree go down in a forest. Not saying it doesn't happen, but like we're walking down the trail, and I said they follow you out. We were leaving, and then a tree went down. It was a massive tree right behind us, and then we walked a little bit farther, like two minutes or whatever, a minute or so, and another one went down. And not, you know, anywhere near us to hurt.

us or any way that it would have got us, but what was that? How often the trees go down in the forest, and you witness it? Oh, Randy's territory is amazing. There are so many things. And so the kind of impasse, the mind speak, would definitely happen more, be, It would definitely be more prevalent around Randy and Mike. Out of my own, I didn't really get the mind-speak. I know the one, like I said, the first one shared its emotions with me,

but I didn't have like any sort of like dialogue, you know. But like I said, the first day walking into the cabin and I hear Mike. And I'm thinking, and I'm not even thinking. you know, that Mike's messing with me, more than thinking maybe he was on his computer going through some of his stuff, Mike is super dedicated to the research. He's about 90 more percent obsessed than I am. And so he takes this research very seriously. And it's a massive part of his life. With that said, you know, I know people have a hard time with this stuff, but that is just what it is. I'm just saying for my personal experience, the place is most paranormal I've ever been in.

And another reason why this one colleague of mine, I said that I worked with in the past, had said, I said that if they didn't like him, I've heard people say that they can give you headaches. They can give you like a pain like brain freeze. And when I was with Randy and this colleague, we were walking through the forest and we're on this trail all of a sudden I started to feel a migraine come on and I was like oh no I'm going camping for three days

and I'm going to get a migraine and I'm like no and then just as I was saying no both this colleague and Randy fell to the ground at like this the same time with their heads hurting they're like

ow! So that happened. There's some sort of connection with Sasquatch with Y6, like the letter Y, that perfectly are shaped like a Y, for the most part. And all of their barks is peeled. And sometimes you'll find them in the forest,

like the Blair Witch Project. Some things made art of them, you know. and it's a very strange kind of thing to see in the forest. But I do think I was never creeped out by them, but I thought they were something they do like building the structures, right? But this is more like an art form. Oh, here's really quick, a beautiful physical story. So amazing.

I was up in Nordic, Canada, get on an ATV. just flying down this road. And I saw a tree break, and it was massive, at least 19 feet tall. And it was a one-twist break, just like they say. The end of the tree was still alive. And I made my colleague stop. He didn't stop. And it's so funny.

I was like, no, we have to. Well, you've got to stop and look at this thing. He goes, I don't want to know about that. He was, I don't want to know about it. And then I walked into the tree line. I said, well, I'll be back. And I walked into the tree line. And there was, it was about the size of, I'll say, a 20 by 20 area where there were all these tiny structures.

Like that one of them was over three feet. And there were about 30 of them. I don't know what that was about. How far away from civilization were you at that point? I can get this eight miles from a cell signal. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah.

This was with an individual that we're leaving unnamed. Correct? Throughout your years of research, has there been anything that you learned that you felt scared to share because it would change the community or world too much? Okay. I think I have to bottom out of the truth, you know, and the truth, I believe that the truth is more important than anything. And, you know, we live in a time where people don't, no longer even think that the truth is important or that the truth is esoteric. It's not a real thing, which is frightening to me.

You know, red is red. That is a truth. you know and so this idea that I mean I know for a fact we'll get into kind of this other conspiracy

part of the Bigfoot world is that you know the government's keeping us from this knowledge and I believe that 100% as you I yeah definitely

there's too many stories of where you know of where especially like The first one that comes to mind is, of course, you know, Mount St. Helens, I believe that story. There are too many witnesses. There's like five witnesses that all corroborate that the U.S. government showed up and helped a family of Sasquatch regain their health. Did you talk to people directly, witnesses, or these are things that you've read places or heard?

Like seeing a documentary. Okay. You know, like a thing-fitting about mail right here. No, I never talked to them firsthand, but that's just the story that I believe. I don't know why. When you hear what the gentlemen say about it, it's pretty amazing. And just wait. Brett and Jill and Tob and Mike are doing another film, and it's on Ron Chiaris sounds,

and the story is going to, the story is huge. like what Ron has shared is such a small part of all that went on and probably just because you know I don't think he was hiding

anything more or being elusive more than the most important thing with you know working to get someone to buy you know

scientifically the credibility of those Sierra sounds of those recordings which you know they're recording back then on eight track tapes you know it wasn't like the technology

today. Oh, exactly, yeah. Yeah. It was a whole, whole different ball game. So far, we've talked about Montana, British Columbia, and you said Alberta as well, right? Patterson is in, out of the Toronto area. Okay, gotcha, gotcha. Did you do any expeditions or research in Oregon or Washington State? You know, I was invited once but and we had we had some things happen well yeah the black cat showed up third part of that heart story happened it's very unusual my neighbor came over I had just oh I have to back up

okay so unfortunately I lost two precious little beings in my life I lost my cats and they were brother and sister and they were just they had so much personality like they were Instagram famous worthy especially the little boy because he was a munchkin cat but I let him be indoor outdoor and so you know he thought he was a eight-foot tall Tom cat when he just had you know these legs that were he was adorable like a Welsh corgi cat just imagine that And anyway, by Shiva. And what I never had imagined ever is that an animal would simply die of a broken heart. So when you have cats, you know, everything, cats are like chickens.

Everything wants to kill your cat. So, like everything wants to eat chicken. You know, like there's not an animal that won't eat a chicken. and there's lots of predators for cats. Indoor, outdoor. You just know that one day you're going to come home, either a coyote, a hawk, a bobcat, or your neighbor's dog is going to get your cat.

So when the neighbor's dog took Shiva, I was devastated, but I'd surrendered a long time ago to the possibility of that being a reality. but Collie, after he passed away, his sister, just crawled up on my bed and never really left. Didn't want to go outside. She'd still eat. She'd still get cuddles, but she virtually never left my bed.

And then she died. She just died. She was so sad. And so losing them was really difficult. They had brought me a ton of joy in their personalities, and then the way they went out was very bittersweet because they just didn't let me know how close that those two really were. Anyway, sorry about my cats, but it leaped into this story where my neighbor, like, four years later, or not four years later, two years later, two years later, two years later, I'm going

down and I live in a small apartment complex and I'm going down to go do something and my neighbor walks up to me she was Sonia she was I had the weirdest thing happen and I'm like what happened and she said well she said I just got back from the grocery store and when I got out of my car there was nothing by my door and when I came back this was by my door and she said something said to me that it belongs to you Well, she handed me this heart And it was a heart made from like pottery Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages

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well. I would say hi in passing, you know, but I'd never like been to a house and even had tea, you know, so, or something like that. So for her to say this is for you and to give it to me and then to go upstairs and look at my rocks, my heart rocks that I already got, and that heart was also the exact same size. And so I really believe that was a gift from Sasquots, from spirits, their energy, just knowing that there was a deep hurt there. So then we were literally filming, and this all has to do with Oregon. I know it's going a long ways to get to Oregon, but anyway, I was invited down to the Al Moon Lab, with Tob, who the Al Moon Lab also was paranormal.

He definitely had some energy there. And we experienced it because as we're filming, well, before that, the day before, we were hiking through the forest, and my friend and I saw a black cat that looked just like my colleague. And it was so interesting because it's not very often you're out in the forest in Oregon and you see a cat just trumpling through the forest. That's never been my experience in hiking to see a cat, a domestic cat, just running. But nevertheless, my best friend and I both saw this black cat and thought that was really interesting.

And then the next day, Brett and Jill were filming me and Mike. And as we are talking right in front of us between the camera and myself, Brett notices this round-like coin that has a smiling black cat on it. It's like a wood coin with a smiling black cat. And we all just looked at that because they know the story about my cats. knew the story and they'd never seen that there before and Tobit never seen that before. I was sitting there right there in the driveway. The truth is for me about Bigfoot is 90% of it has been in a way absolutely terrifying,

but the experience always was actually really glorious. It's just so big You know like Whatever big foot is Whatever softquatch is It's so big And I don't mean physically You know

That It makes an impression You know I've never experienced something that big Like not even an elephant Something so big That you know And so smart

And wise because it like leaves things for you at places. Like I do believe that that heart, I spoke of earlier with the white cat, was left for me by Bigfoot. That kind of knowing and understanding. And then if you experience a little bit of mind speak, and then when I talk about the bluff charge, you know, experience how fast they are. Like, I'm a little bit, you know, honestly, I'm traumatized by that. Like, what was that?

Like, what moves that fast? And then to know that it's an intelligent being that knows you're in the woods before you do. So it has its moment of intimidation, which I think when you're, were saying you heard a lot of screaming and hollers. Like, I know, I wonder, and I'm going to ask you, was that not in some way frightening? It was really interesting. It definitely, I would say physically I had a frightened response to it. It felt like the blood rushed out of my head down to my feet.

It was hard to kind of keep in control, you know, of like, okay, don't freak out type deal. Yeah. Have you ever heard of anything where Bigfoot or Sasquatch responds to someone playing a musical instrument on expedition? Anything like that? Well, I've played music in the forest, and, you know, the owls show up. Inevitably, ows will show up. But I think sometimes it has to be the right kind of music. Like maybe the harder music, maybe more intimidating.

Maybe they might be intrigued, but not. come close, but something beautiful. I mean, there's these wonderfully sweet videos of people who go out and play violin for cows and for the dairy cows. And those dairy cows love that. They all run over to the fence and hang out and listen to their little music, you know? So I definitely have played music in the forest. And I've had, I've definitely had a response with that, for sure.

Beautiful response. Like one time up in Randy's territory, I played music that I, that I was connected to at a deep level. And I also sometimes would do a meditation and sometimes I would do a prayer, you know. I think reverence to this space that we are. given is what we are sorely lacking right now. If you really look at the earth and you see that it is abundant, effervescence, and teaming with life, you know, I like to give some thanks for that, some reverence for that. And so sometimes the songs I would play would kind of reflect that feeling that

feeling in me. And one of the most beautiful experiences I've ever had is that afterwards there were these 13 vocalizations just a little bit after. And again, once again, I won't have the breathing capacity nor probably the vocal possibility of actually doing what I heard. someone maybe opera could for sure but it sounded like this but it was much longer you know with that sweet little just

dropped down and in the melody it was so it was so beautiful and there were 13 of those vocalizations and Randy said that they liked what I

did and that we needed to leave. We need to leave. Yeah, right. That was beautiful. Thank you for doing that. I mean, I think that sounded absolutely, absolutely marvelous. Thank you. Yeah. And there's just so many things, you know, like I've seen effervescence in the forest in that meditative space and that reverent space. I really learned. And I, and I, and I, and a humble way, but like, shocking to me that I, how courageous I am and can be, you know, for actually hearing, you know, like sticking with the research, like every opportunity getting out there, but I can get out there knowing, like I said, that 90% of it was going to be terrifying,

but all of it would be glorious. If anything Bigfoot taught me is that there is so much more beauty than I'd ever imagined on this planet. You've mentioned meditation a few times. How did that play into your Bigfoot research? Well, like I said, I would often, if I got the opportunity, you know, to do what I felt was reverent in the forest, it came about like this. I mean, it came from, even from my first expedition, it was just kind of this logical thing. and it's not to be so hard on humanity.

I love humans. We're fragile, and we make really big mistakes. And I think we're a lot more fragile than we own at any given time, because our species is really fallible to making, like I said, huge mistakes. And non-humans are not like that. When the Europeans first got here, there were a couple of things that happened. One, they were not on an anthropological expedition. A lot of people don't know that immediately on the East Coast, they killed over 2 million wolves right away.

And then, a few years later, you know, it wouldn't be less than, I don't know how many years, but maybe 20 years later, they would be in the Midwest shooting 7 million bison. So if you were this like human-like species, cousin of a human, even like a Neanderthal, you know, whatever this being could be. And it is, again, with all the paranormal, the paranormal is true, but so is the biology. The biology is there, or we wouldn't have footprints. So, so if you were this nocturnal species that interacted lightly with humans, which is kind of what a lot of the First Nations people say about,

their experience of Sasquatch, you know, some traded berries, you know, some traded, you know, they would trade salmon for berries or whatever, leave baskets in the forest for each other. So they interacted, and not all the stories are like that, but quite a few of them are. You get quite a few of those sorts of countings. So if you were this like, again, elusive, but friendly, larger being that shared space, but you're not churnal. And you start hearing gunfire for the first time, you go invisible. And so that just seems to me to be logical.

And therefore, I thought, wow, I'm sure it's been many years since they have seen us be really reverent in the forest. Of course, people hike and appreciate and love nature. they are the many of us that are like that. But really just to go out and do an act of reverence, like to really like go into a deep space of meditation, of prayer, and say thank you for all that all is. You know, and so I thought, wow, if I do something like that,

you know, I just want to show them something of beauty, and that's all I have is my prayer. I would do that. It makes so much sense because I've been in this really just a few years, but I have experienced being in an area actually just this last summer where it's a known Sasquatch area, but stuff only happened if certain people were there that had a different viewpoint towards the subject rather than people that, trying to say it a certain way, but I think it all comes down to your intention of why you're doing this,

and if you're in it just for a certain reason, you're probably not going to experience a lot of activity. Right, like a consciousness thing, right? More your consciousness is aligned with a higher force in our forest, the more your consciousness is appreciative of that. Like, whatever it is, it's a consciousness thing, where, like, my one colleague, I knew they didn't like him for some reason. You know, they were always aggressive, you know, or, you know, or a certain type of elusiveness.

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You know, and I remember just always, even now, just shaking my head like I did, you know, from 2007, like there's this possibility. There is this other being in the forest, and we have not researched it. and found out about it and, you know, conduct things with it in a real level. Yeah, I was confounded that the scientific community had turned its back on this work. And even, you know, Jane Goodall believes,

but she's not interested in research, I think, because she's like leaving alone. Right. That's funny, yeah. Exactly. But, yeah, she has, I believe there's video you can find where she talks about that, yeah, from what I've seen. Do you have any advice for individuals that are wanting to go into areas?

There's been known to have been Bigfoot in that areas and things they might be able to do in order to try to have that contact? Well, I think, you know, intention. I'll tell you something that happened in Oregon one night when we're in this area. We were right in front of this meadow and there's a tree line at the other side. side of it and we knew we were they were out there and this one individual takes a very high powered flashlight and starts shining it along the wood line and almost immediately there was a massive huge woodcrack right to the right of where this flashlight was shown but it just had

this feeling like you know get that get that light out of here it was maybe almost like a warning I don't know. It was very weird, though, how it was in within half a second when the light was shown over there. There's something really funny. Along with your story, what it reminded me of is the story when, and I think it may, Meldron may have been up there. I don't remember what group went up to the cabin where they supposedly got blood samples. Oh, are you talking about the Snell Grove Lake cabin with Doug Hichick? I don't remember who. I'm so sorry. Oh, no problem. I just remember.

But it's, you know, it's a pretty famous one where they're like these four researchers in this cabin that have been known for activity. And they had had rocks thrown. And like people had reported rocks being thrown and pretty aggressive behavior. Well, I thought it was really funny. And some of this just seems like kind of off. But so the four men are. they're there. It's getting pretty late. They're all going about to hit the pay. And so one of them walks out onto the deck and pees into the forest, which is fine. What are you going to do?

You're going to the bathroom. But right after that is when they had all this, like, all this aggressive behavior, rocks being thrown and screens and yells and all these vocalizations. And I always thought that was really funny. I'm like, yeah, well, maybe this thing just saw you walk out and pee. Right. And it's a little home. You know what I mean? I just thought that was so funny.

But it's a really well-known case about them being up there and being attacked. And then supposedly they put out this, what they did, they put out this that had little spikes on it. And so if something stepped on it, they would have blood and hair. well, they got the blood and hair from that. So I never remember how scientifically that turned out for them if it was unknown or what kind of species because it happened, that happened probably about 20 years ago. It's from an old Monster Quest episode.

There's actually two of them. Yes. Yep. Yep. And Doug actually ended up going up this last year again, and he's going to be reporting on that in a future documentary, I think. I do believe they are like people, though, in the sense, like humans in the sense that sometimes they don't want you in their territory. And they're not going to hurt you, but you may not have a pleasant experience.

Because there are reports that reflect this. And I think we have to also have a certain amount of respect for that. If you're going into a territory where you're getting aggressive behavior, you may want to think about that. You know, I know, okay, so just take this for what it is. I don't know if I'm making up too much about it, but it also is one of the strangest things that ever happened. So there's a place called Josie Wallops, and it has the activity that goes on back there is a lot of rock throwing. and so it doesn't feel like overly, like, you know, friendly. There's just, like I said, the reports are rock-throwing.

And you hear screams back there at night, for sure. And you hear vocalizations. A lot of people hear it. And, yeah, many. And I went back there, and, like, I do like to leave crystals. I leave them because, you know, I think there's something beautiful and something that would draw attention. but yet it's not like a plastic toy.

I'm not littering and not leaving something that in its own right doesn't belong in the force already. So anyway, and I went back there. I had a rose quartz heart that was as big as a baseball. It was a really good chunk. And I went out there and with the intention to bring like an offering, of goodwill. And I, we walked probably a good five miles back into that area. And I went off trail. I went up the hill a bit. And I found this tree stump. And it was easy, the tree stump itself would be easy enough to see from the trail. But technically there would be no reason for anybody to go up

there maybe to go to the bathroom, but the hill itself was so steep, I think someone would look for an easier place to do that. So I really did try to hide it, but also have a marker for where exactly I hit it, right? And so I did it at this, where this trail starts to go up this very steep bridge, and it splits and you can follow another way. And so I go up to this treason that is massive. And it's pretty tore up, but it was a good five feet in diameter at the base. And I find this little spot, and I put it in the tree, a little ledge that all you could kind of see was just a tad bit of the pink, you know, just so you kind of saw that there might be something unusual, but I definitely left it for the most part out of sight as much as possible. And like I said,

set the intention for goodwill. And we walked back in about three weeks later, and the tree stump was gone, completely gone. And it didn't even look like there wasn't a hole there. It didn't even look like you would think maybe it was right in the Forest Service, maybe thought it could be, even though it really could not be a danger. But, you know, they pulled things out or something. No. No. Petri Stump was gone. Now, I don't know what to make up about that, but it doesn't feel welcoming.

I would agree with you. Definitely. That is a very strange account. I have two more questions. And first, I just want to say thank you for spending your time with me and for sharing some extremely interesting things from your years of research. Have you ever heard anything come out of the Lake Cushman area? Oh, yeah. I mean, the Olympic Peninsula. I mean, this is, and Vancouver Island, you know, reportedly where you have the most credible witness reports. Right. of South. You know, with Oregon coming, like I think Vancouver Island, then Washington and Oregon, kind of in that order. I may be wrong, but it feels kind of that way. So there are a lot of spots here. I mean, the Olympic forest is a hot spot. Like, you know, like some of the Oregon

forests are, unlike Northern California is. Right? I mean, people still. have experiences down there in the Arcadia area. You know, like, one of my favorite stories about that is I have a few friends who are ex or, you know, retired military that said, you know, they used to do drills all over. And they'll, like, drop you in somewhere and you just, in the forest, it's with nothing and you just have to survive. and those are some of my best reports because those people didn't believe

until they were in the forest with nothing for 10 days when they would have interactions during that time oh and hear maybe even just hear the calls you know and just know you know what I mean and hear the vocalizations or have the rock thrones or stuff like that you know like yeah of course you know they're real

another oh my goodness okay, this is another one of my real truly favorite stories about Bigfoot, and it really has nothing to do with being in the field or anything. So I had my 30th high school reunion, and I hadn't made my 20th, so I decided, oh, why not? Let's do this. And I reconnected with my high school best friend, and I was really surprised when I got to the reunion. and I just didn't even think about it, but everybody was really, like, interested in the Bigfoot thing and knowing more about what I was doing in that research. And it was really super sweet that, you know, I had no idea like people would know, you know,

especially from my high school. Anyway, my best friend at the time, we went together, and afterwards I was staying with her, and so for the weekend, just also to, just like I said, just, connect from all those years past. And we get back to her house. And she hadn't said anything to me at all about Bigfoot. And I was kind of surprised. She hadn't said a word.

And when people were talking to me about Bigfoot, she kind of just like, do her own thing, you know? And then, but when we got home, she gets out a bottle of wine. She pours us at each a glass. She sits me down on the couch. And she looks at me and she goes, Sonia she goes

you know my dad was his only job in life he was a retired ranger forest ranger well I had forgotten

that her dad was a forest ranger when I was in high school I had never really you know thought thought about that and I was like oh yeah

she said sonia she goes we lived in that force we live in that force my dad works in that force we know

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that's crazy. And I said, I know. Like, I know. You know, but nothing in me was ever going to stop. Like, I get it. I hear you. You know, thank you. I know it's crazy.

But there was, like I said, I knew she was trying to. warned me, but what was so odd about it is it just didn't land that way with me. Like, I couldn't even hear it as a warning. It didn't matter. And I've never had that kind of, like, real, like, just non-negotiable experience, you know. But her just leaning over to me, like, we know they're real. You don't go looking for them. That's crazy.

that's funny that's crazy that's how she was saying it and I was like blown away it's fascinating and I think that we keep going in years

and maybe this is me speaking as a new person to the subject but it feels like the further I do this the more emails I start getting from park rangers and forestry workers that say I want to come forward, then they don't end up doing it, but just the fact that they're even sending them

gives me the feeling that we might be getting closer to more information come out, but I mean, that might just be me as a new person, I don't know. I hope so, but, you know, like I said, we have this, we're having an odd relationship with the truth. Like, all these years, it feels like UFO's been suppressed, and now that UFO is out in the open, it's like, oh, well, it could be. be the government doing that. You know what I mean?

Like, so, and, you know, there's all these new possibilities and new types of information. And, you know, we're kind of bogged down with all of it. I think it's a little bit too much information, to be honest. Our brains...

It's a lot. We're meant to not handle so much. I just want everyone to know that it is real. and that everybody keep doing the research. Like, just keep doing it. It's fascinating. I feel it is fascinating as well.

The last question that I would like to ask, and I need to get your okay for it too first. Is it okay if I ask a question about your cancer? Thank you. Because I've never been able to ask this question, and you'll get what I mean in a minute. So there's always a thought process in the community where there'll be people that have, they end up having these horrible health conditions. And as a person that is experiencing cancer, but was also a Bigfoot researcher and able to talk to you at this point, do you yourself feel like there's a connection between what you're experiencing with?

with your big foot research from years past? Well, you know, to be quite honest with you, we can't rule it out as a possibility, right? Right. Because there's evidence for it. And it could very well be that the shift in, for lack of a better word, the shift in an energetic dimension, no matter how that happens, could be toxic.

And to even substantiate that, from a very interesting source. But if we do look at the Bible as history as well, there is the accounts of the early Hebrew priests having to wear special jackets when they went into the temples to protect themselves from the energy. And that would be the energy of source,

like another dimensional being. If you want to call that God for them, then that's great. but the, or whatever, you know, whatever spirituality you have, like if you believe that was an experience of God. But if you read the Bible, and especially the book of Enoch, you know, you discover that they would be hurt by these things, by these interactions with God. You know, they were often told not to look, you know, and to wear, like I said, the

priest would, the early priest, they would wear, they would definitely wear these special jackets. So is it plausible? It's entirely plausible. And, you know, it could be just with even the paranormal activity in general, like maybe it's not a Sasquatch specific, but just paranormal energy, right? Because there is, I mean, isn't there some, I'm asking you about this because I don't rightly know, but isn't there some evidence that would substantiate that, A lot of these hot spots have an increase in radioactivity.

Is that not true? Well, um, is anyone measured for that? Yeah, actually there, there has been. Yeah, um, there's a couple of investigators out in West Virginia that were able to get readings around an area where I believe there was a footprint and they did find high, very high, radioactive readings. That's Joe Purdue and Ron Lanham. from West Virginia.

So there definitely could be a correlation there. Yeah. And so, you know, that just might be the physical consequence, but also no, there are equally stories about Sasquatch healing people. You know, I have a friend,

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And so at some point, he feels this beautiful, warm hand on his forehead. And he was instantly all right. But his years of being like an outdoorsman and a... hunter, just that kind of taught him to reach for his gun. And he automatically went for his gun, and he was crying when he said it was just the worst decision he had ever made. Because the being who had just healed him, he wasn't even cold, just healed him, just healed him, stood up and screamed just this.

It's horrible, horrible, sad scream and ran off. That's incredible. Oh, man. Right. Right? Yeah. And, you know, this is like, you know, a 55-year-old man about, you know, definitely had his years, many years, you know, in the forest. he loved it. It's a life.

And, you know, his response was completely natural. You know, completely. Yeah. To go to protect. You know? And so, yeah. But, you know, he's just crying.

I can never take that back. It really does come down to how we react to these, these creatures that are in the woods. and sometimes not even the wood, sometimes around us. And I just want to say, Sonia, thank you so much for spending some time sharing about what you've experienced over the years and for teaching us some really interesting things that we can implement going forward in our research as well. Thank you so much for coming on, Sonia. Jeremiah, thank you so much for having me.

And one last little bit, even though there's a possibility that my interactions had something to do with my cancer, this is quite true. I wouldn't change it a bit. This is what it is, a little bit of naivete, maybe. I don't say that that is the truth, what happened, but if it is, then it is. so thank you so very much Jeremiah i really appreciate you having me and giving the chance to talk about things that i hadn't really talked about before special thanks again to sonya for coming on the show to share what she's experienced over her bigfoot research years some of it for the first time ever

i appreciate you coming on the show sonya as of time of editing november 4th sonya is still with us. There is a GoFundMe that has been created to help her in the last days of her life. You can find that in the description of this episode. If you feel led, please consider contributing to the GoFundMe. Again, thank you for coming on the show, Sonia, and thank you to all for listening. Please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications and share the episode on YouTube with a friend also if you're listening to us on a podcast thank you so much make sure that you're subscribed share the show with a friend really it's all about sharing the show wherever you can if you've had a bigfoot encounter

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