Bigfoot Society - When the Forest Answers Back in Rural Michigan

Episode Date: February 19, 2026

In this episode, we delve into the compelling experiences of Stacy from rural Michigan, a disabled veteran who has spent years uncovering unexplained activity on his own property. Living near farmland... and within miles of the Black River area, Stacy shares how subtle changes in the woods slowly gave way to unmistakable encounters that demanded his attention. As he began spending more time on the land, he noticed unusual tree breaks, carefully arranged structures, and large tracks appearing in places no one else traveled.Stacy recounts moments in the woods that felt deliberate and intelligent, including encounters that left him rethinking how closely something may be observing human activity. With trail cameras set throughout the property, he describes strange patterns, unexpected interference, and imagery that raised new questions rather than providing easy answers. His experiences also led him to explore the deep history of the land, including Indigenous traditions and the idea that these beings may be tied to the landscape in ways that go beyond the physical.Thoughtful, grounded, and deeply personal, Stacy’s account offers a detailed look at what it’s like to live alongside something unknown. Join us as we explore his ongoing experiences and the growing mystery surrounding this active area of rural Michigan.Contact Stacy here: atkinsstacy67@gmail.com🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:02:12 account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. You've got the privilege of talking to Stacey today. Stacey is a listener from the... Well, from Michigan, we'll say, and Stacey might be providing more info. Later regarding that, Stacey's also a disabled veterans. Thank you for your service, sir. You're welcome. That will also perhaps come into play with his account as well.
Starting point is 00:02:42 But there's a lot of interesting things that Stacey has been going through over the last few years. So welcome to the show, sir. How are you doing today? I'm doing good. Oh, real good. absolutely i live i live in jetto um i uh i had a stroke and uh what was it uh i got wrote it down hang on let me grab like to lose that i had i had a stroke in the summer or yeah and i had a stroke in april 23
Starting point is 00:03:26 and then I had seizures February 3rd of 2000, 24. So I'm basically, and it's for all my service that I'd done for my country. I'll regret it any of it. And I'd do it again if I had to. So that being set, I was in a construction field. I drove a truck, a gravel train. So because of having a stroke and a thing. affected my obstacle nerve. So my peripheral vanish is can't drive a truck like that. I'm disabled.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Plus, plus when you have seizures, you got to be off the seizure medication for 10 years before you can get back your hand in the wheel of the truck. 59. I don't ever see it happening. You know what I mean? And I'm took me care of by the military. So I really ain't kind of complain about that. So this is what I'm, what leads up to that is I've never, I've been here five years and I never really had the time to really draw out look, you know what I mean? They were out there then, but because of, we have 10 acres, but because of me and I'm going out and looking around, they didn't feel threatened. You know what I mean? Nobody hunts on our property, so there's no hunters out there looking for them. Uh, and that's And plus, and we have a lot of food on this property.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Apple, trees, berries, you name it. Well, we're up, you know, we're 30 miles like northeast of Port Haran, so it's all farm country out here. What brought my attention to this is that we didn't have a trail that weren't all the way all back. We only cut part of the property. We own 10 acres, you know. There's no reason to cut everything. And so what I'd done is I had already kind of got a trail through there. I took a chainsaw and I caught you a bunch of stuff up.
Starting point is 00:05:35 There was a bunch of vines in there. They had, like I said, it took in these trees and you can see where they had been twisted. You got to have a thumb for that, man. I mean, that's the only thing that can do that is somebody that's got fourth fingers in a thumb. And when I started, I'm like, and I even said something to my wife then, I'm like, huh, this big foot. No. No.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But it was. I didn't push it because I'm like, oh, you know, I'm tired. I worked a lot of hours, and this is before I had my stroke. So I'm like, yeah, I went out and cut the trees down. I never had any other problems after that. the stuff didn't happen until I cut the trail, the rest of the way out, back,
Starting point is 00:06:30 kind of where we already cut at, you know, it's really thick. So I cut a trail back there. That way we can get to the bat. My friend comes out occasionally, hunts on a property. So that takes them all the way all back with a deer run.
Starting point is 00:06:47 So, while I'm doing this, I'm cutting this trail. oh bad to get to where we wanted to go I see the first rock and it's coming in right and I'm like who who's throwing rocks now the second rock come in and hit the the metal part of the glimper's and come back and hit me in my chest so they gave me pause man you know I'm like huh so I have my 9mm meter kept a couple rides in the ground I'm like hey keep throwing rocks you
Starting point is 00:07:20 you're going to get shot, you know, because that's what I thought it was. I thought it was a bunch of kids. But I should know better than that because, you know why? Some of the structures, somebody tried to tell they were children. I said, no, listen, first of all, kids are not that. I says, they're not that dedicated to the cost to come out here and build all this, man. I says, and plus, it's not a hunter. You can go on eBay, or not eBay, but Amazon, and buy a, buy a hunting line for a couple hundred bucks.
Starting point is 00:07:50 So I automatically knew there was something. And then I saw some footprints. I've got, I took pictures of these footprints. When Brian come out here, he found footprints too. And then some of the trees that were snapped. I mean, these trees, man, they're not, it's not the wind. It is. There's no way to be the wind.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And there's just too many of them. And, you know, it's like in the woods, they're not. on the outskirt of the woods. They're not. You know what I'm saying? And listen, being in the military, I was around helicopters,
Starting point is 00:08:32 and chapters that come in and land by trees, they push the wind. Trees will bend before they break. And I'm going to tell you, I've never seen any trees broke, down by the flight layer, where some of these guys landed sometimes, or where they came in it.
Starting point is 00:08:49 So, you know, the wind, yeah, dead trees, I got a lot of dead trees out here, but they're not off from the wind. It's impossible because they're broken way up high. I'm talking seven, eight feet off the ground, man. They're snapped, and some are snapped and a lot than pointing, pointing out here like this, you know, like I said. The snap didn't point towards the woods, the other part, the lead part or, you know, towards the out of the woods. And so when I saw this stuff and I'm like, wow, man. And then I had them rostered at me. I'm like, I definitely got a big foot.
Starting point is 00:09:29 And then I fell in the footprints. And I'd called Brian out after my daughter and her boyfriend had come out here. Okay. We go all the way out back. And they're on the one side. And I walked down a little farther. And all of a sudden, there's a ride. A rock come in and landed between her and her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And she goes, Dan, did you throw a rock? And I'm like, no, I didn't throw any rocks. Why would I throw a rock of you guys? And then I heard second rock come on because it's, you know, it's hitting the branches. So I walk over there and just as I almost get to these two, a rock as big as a basketball gets hurdle at us. And I've seen it coming because I could hear it. I heard it coming first and it were three things. And it landed in between the three of us.
Starting point is 00:10:27 That's what I'm like, okay, we, I need to have a bigger fire arm than what I got on you. Just in case. I really, I really don't want to kill one. It's kind of people. I'm killing. For, man, what good is that new? You're going to kill something that's lived on this earth longer than any of us.
Starting point is 00:10:48 why wouldn't you want to, you know, maybe you can study it from afar. I don't think they, you know, I've kind of changed my mind on a few things about that. But anyways, getting back to that. So we got out of there, you know, because when these things start throwing rock like that at you, they're throwing pretty close. And if they wanted to get you, I know they could get you. I just think it's a warning to get out of there. you know, the next time you're not be so lucky.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Absolutely. So the basketball size rock, it sounds like you were able to see it come towards you. Did you see if it had an arc or was it straight at you? Nope, it was an arc because it traveled. Like I said, I just seen it in the air where it was starting to arc because it hit these branches. And the leaves were coming down. And I was when I like, what is that? And it landed right there and it rolled.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Like, it perfectly was thrown not to hit anybody, but to say, hey, you know what? You guys need to get out of here. And we got out of there. I'm not sticking around to find out, especially not with just a 9mm. And I've invested in firearms. Like I said, I don't want to kill any. Yeah, stupid. Why would you want to keep up?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Let's go to Wuzzy Kill every animal we can find. You know what I mean? I'm not a hunter, so. But anyways, so after that little stint that happened, I'm like, I stayed away from all back for a while because I'm like, you know, perfect example. I go out back, surely after all this happened, all right? And I had cut a trail, like I said, and there's all these, I didn't do this.
Starting point is 00:12:53 None of this was like this when I was out there. But then you get these branches that I had cut down with trees. They got them like from the trail up. And they're leaning against other trees. But you know, I'm like, who does this? I didn't do this. And I tell you what, right up behind my house. right out behind my house
Starting point is 00:13:17 there's structures built right next to my garage there's structures built where I built a platform up off the ground so I could see them they built something right next to that plus there's another
Starting point is 00:13:34 like structure built right off the trail right back I can't believe how many like I said I can't believe how many structures I've seen but I was never really looking before you know what i mean never never never right never thought about it until i saw those footprints and uh i was like whoa i was just out there yesterday and uh i have um i've got three uh uh cama traps and uh i set them up and i let them go for a little bit out where i've
Starting point is 00:14:11 had activity and i just brought him in yesterday and i just brought him in yesterday I haven't looked at him yet because I'm a stroke victim and I'm icy. Yeah, sure. But I'm very, I'm excited. You know why? I'm going to tell you why. I've caught kinds of whirbs on my trail cams, off Heinz. And in fact, just this morning, I got an alert on my cameras and it's like, I don't know how to explain it.
Starting point is 00:14:42 It's like an orb. Is it a worm inside where this structure's been built? And then it kind of, it kind of fades away. And it's itself, itself. The sun comes up in the east. There was no way then that could have been a reflection from my camera because it was on this side. It was on the, it was on the west side of the tree where this thing was lit up.
Starting point is 00:15:09 So I'm like, there's no way that. And plus, if he looked through my. my cameras like that. You can see that they're all clean. I make sure they are. So I know it's not reflection of light. You can see it. It's weird.
Starting point is 00:15:25 I got two pictures of it. And then there's another one like that. I've got another one that was outside my house here. That at first I thought it was a set of headlights, but it was only one light. And then all of a sudden you see it. There is another one, another picture. It goes right up against.
Starting point is 00:15:44 the tree and there's a reflection from this tree back at this thing. What is it? I don't know. I just know that my cameras are set pretty high for them to be set off because I just don't want them, you know, sugar and everything. I more or less, you know, you're going to chip it off. I don't know what this entity was. it looked it looks solid
Starting point is 00:16:17 you know what I'm saying and this is kind of maybe changed my mind about Bigfoot and in a spiritual realm let's say because if they wanted to do something
Starting point is 00:16:32 to us that day in the woods they could have done it all day long but they chose not to so I you know I don't know if that's the spiritual being of it that like, hey, this is our land, you know, you got yours, you know, mind your business, stay out of here because nobody really, nobody hunts out there. And then we're the state game land, you go, Black River is just due east of my house. Yeah, and I want to jump in for a
Starting point is 00:17:04 minute because it's important for listeners to make a connection with that. They may, and you've mentioned Brian's name already, but Brian Sawyer from Bigfoot of Michigan slash Bigfoot of America, I think he also calls it. He's been on the show a few times and he has talked about the Black River slash Port Huron State Game Area, which is extremely active. And what, that's about 20, 30 miles away from where you're located? No, it's not even that. It's probably. Oh, really? Yeah, 5-6. Oh my goodness. So, yeah, dude, you're right there. You're pretty much in the thick of it.
Starting point is 00:17:43 Yeah, and there's, there used to be, uh, a, um, boy scout troop that used to go down here in, and, uh, camp and stuff, uh, they, they no longer, still longer active. Um, and I imagine that there's probably a lot of activity. there just because it's close to the Black River, nobody goes there. So if you're going to come up, man, and you don't want to be seeing, that's the way you're going to come, because there's nobody there to see you. And then this stream, like I said, runs right up into our property from Black River. It's a perfect form, man.
Starting point is 00:18:33 There's all farmland around here. There's plenty of stuff. stuff to eat deer. But I know for a fact that Sultram has built these structures, and it's not me, and it's not a kid because they're not dedicated enough to the cause for all that. And somebody built it. It wasn't me. And, you know, when I think when I see a lot of these vines have been picked up off the ground,
Starting point is 00:19:04 dragged up into the air and around the branches and back down. Now, somebody said, you know, that's not going to probably support, you know, a 900-pound animal like a big foot, but what about their little babies? Teaches them how to climb and to get them up high so there's no danger to them.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You know, I think, well, in fact, the last time I spoke to Brian, Sawyer. Brian told me that there's like two clans living out here. One towards the south of my property and one north of my property. And there's, you know, there's a lot of woods that run along the roadway. Well, they kind of, you know, snow rolls for the farmland.
Starting point is 00:19:55 You going on the road, man. And I swear, I kid you not, these, these have been all dripped over where, it kind of hides. One time I thought there was something in it. I actually stopped to look. But you could see, I didn't see any footprints, but you could see where something had laid down in there. But again, it's hard to tell because you have snow that's melted,
Starting point is 00:20:23 refreezes, you know what I'm saying? It's like, I always look for hair all the time. And I found, I found scat. Oh, yeah. These big scat, tubular scat. That's the only thing that it can be from. It's not a cow, it's not a deer, it's not a wolf. It's not a, it's not a fox.
Starting point is 00:20:50 None of those. It's too big. I kept all of it, too. I sure did. Oh, wow. How long, how long was it? Oh, you know what? Um, Jeremy, uh, it was like, I, I can, uh, look at it like, it was like baby, bigfoot poop because they weren't really super long, but it was big and it was circular, you know, and I, my buddy's the one that brought it to my attention because we were checking, check and stuff out.
Starting point is 00:21:21 And they know where my cameras are at. That's why I never catch them. where I go out there and I set my cameras up I try to do it I have seven cameras I try to do it in a way that I cover everything so one comes you know what I'm saying I kind of think about it and I kid you not
Starting point is 00:21:44 I've went back out there and there's like trees little branches that have been broken laid up against a tree where my camera's at or it'll it'll have a, it'll take a branch of the shutter right on top of my camera. I'm just like, yesterday I took a picture because before I didn't. And I'm like, well, did the branch fall on it? And I really didn't think too much of it until I started when I moved my cameras farther
Starting point is 00:22:16 all back. And I ain't kidding you that, like, they'll put a tree, Jeremy, where, You look where the tree at? My camera's right there. It's kind of like saying, hey, look, they're wanting each other. And if you go out on the south side of my property and see some of the trees, I have one, Jeremy, tree that is five to six feet off the ground. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:51 And you're talking probably, I don't know. Oh, this is a big tree. Okay, then you see all these vines that have been dragged up and tied around this thing. So it kept it off the ground. I could not believe it when I saw it. I'm like, man, this, you know, you got to be really careful because when you see an animal that's capable of doing this, you've got to be careful. You might, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:23:21 I don't want to. I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to, I don't want to harm one or don't want to kill one. But also, too, I don't want to be, I receive, I see the rods they throw. I was like, I'm like, I don't, there's no, what are you going to do? You ain't going to do something like that because you take a shot at it. It's not just one. They're like a family clan, man.
Starting point is 00:23:43 There's more than one of these things. And I can show you over and over again out here where they have different trails where they come up. this way. I really do believe they watch me out here and my granddaughter is autistic. Now, I don't know how true it is or not, but somebody had said something about, they communicate well with autistic children because they're like, they think that a Bigfoot could have some autism to them because you know, and you see them do this. my daughter will do that sometimes I won't too but um you know and there's certain things and that's why I always wonder if they're out here because what she plays in the backyard and stuff
Starting point is 00:24:36 I just wonder if they're out here watching her not that I think they're going to come and get her but you know what I mean they're curious they're very curious oh yeah I mean that's something I've I've heard variants of that quite a bit in interviews actually where if there's uh you know some kind of autistic individual on the property that can definitely play into things big time. Yeah, and when I heard that, Jeremy, and I went and did some research, you know, and I was like, wow, that's, that's pretty wild. And then, like I said, I'm not, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, fear them.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Hey, it's not like, well, I'm scared. But like I said, I, I want to give them their room. let them do their thing. And I think, too, they know they're protected here on this property. Nobody hunts. My buddy, and that's it, one person. Can you share any details about the tracks that were found, like length of them, anything like that? Yeah, these tracks were probably 13, 14 feet.
Starting point is 00:25:50 I got pictures of them. And you could see where the, you could see, you can make all the toes. Um, you could see where they walked, it, you know, they don't, they don't walk like us. They don't, they don't bob like we do. And you could see how it's like one foot in front of the other. And, uh, and I got the same thing out here the other day, right? I'm just like, no way. And because of the stride, Jeremy's, well.
Starting point is 00:26:22 brought my attention to it. At first, I thought it's got, these are big strides. It's not from my dog. It's all side of the gate. It runs right past my garage. But anyways. Oh my goodness.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Yeah, these, these prints that I found, oh, dear, and the mud was coming. That's why I said it's perfect. The, the tracks were coming up. They were coming from the south to the north up that little drainage. ditch. So, and if you don't go over there and actually look down in there, I don't ever saw them
Starting point is 00:27:02 because there's so much underbrush and grow, you know, thicket there. And then there's places where it's all opened where you can get down in there. But most of the time, man, it's, especially a summertime, you get picker bushes and all kinds of stuff. And it's a little harder to get through. I mean, the deer don't even go through that crap. So it says something. I told Brian Sawyer that I think they ambushed their prey. We agree with that.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Have you heard any accounts of people having sightings close to your property? I went and talked to pretty much everybody right around me, including the neighbors with their property, butts up against ours on the backside. and they've never seen anything they've never heard nothing I talked to one of the farmers that farms right next to our house
Starting point is 00:28:06 and he's never he's never seen anything or heard anything you know but on the other hand these are people that have lived here other lives and maybe they have seen something
Starting point is 00:28:24 but they don't want to people look at them and go oh man what are you crazy i don't i am crazy i'm a disabled veteran that's why i tell everybody of course i'm crazy um but i don't i don't think it's crazy you know what jeremy you can think what you want this is a free country people have died for that freedom okay for you to have that freedom so like i tell anybody think what you want but where's your research to show us that they don't exist? And you know what? People shut up. Let's shut them right up.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Because I've been out in the woods, man. I've had rocks thrown at me. I had something after that rock thrown incident. We have, we have a, like a fired pit out in the bat 40 there. And I went out there and I started a fire. Okay? And I'm standing there and something let a growl out like it so reverberated, you know, all through the air. I didn't put the fire out of the way out, but it's on our property. It wasn't rage or anything.
Starting point is 00:29:34 So I'm like, you know what? I went back up and I got on my back porch where it's light I can see. And that's the last time I ever burn a fire out there at night. I just, like I said, call me a sissy, call me what you will. But when you have things like that and then robs don't add you on the ground from the, I'm good. I know something. Yeah, you got to make the right choice for sure. You had said really quickly, I just want to make sure see if there's something there. You mentioned that there could be perhaps a spiritual component to this?
Starting point is 00:30:18 Yes, sir. All right. So here's what I found out. See, you know, I want to tell you something, but I want to tell you this first. I, my son had brought this up to me, Jeremy. He goes, Dad, how do you know it's not spiritual? I'm like, you know, you couldn't be on to something. And then he's sitting here in my house.
Starting point is 00:30:44 And we pulled out about Indians, the tribes and stuff. And so my son is the one that got me set on that course because he's like, Dad, you should check it out. You never know, right? I'm like, right. I'm baptized. I believe in Jesus, okay? But them are my beliefs.
Starting point is 00:31:06 I'm not going to force any beliefs on you. So anyways, I went and I went to the St. Clair County Library in Port Hearing. and they have what they call a mission room. Okay. And within that room, it's in the basement. Had to buzz me in and like, you guys go, let me back out of the basement, what I'm done. So anyways, I go down there and they have,
Starting point is 00:31:39 they have this book of this area. back in the day. I forget. Oh, it's like the early or late 1800s, okay? And there are so many Indian burial grounds around here. I was shot. I had both fell out of the chair. I'm like, are you serious? And she's like, yeah, there's like 12 just in the central area.
Starting point is 00:32:09 So I'm thinking about that. And then I show her the pictures of the orbs I have. And she's like, yeah, you know, it's an orb, it's not my camera, you know, you can believe what you want, but I stay up on my stuff. I get that from being the service, you know. When you want something to work, you got to make sure it works. So, and I've called more than just one. So to say, oh, it's my camera, and all these have been in different areas of my property, Jeremy. So I think this is just what I think.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I think that I didn't believe this before, by the way, I thought people were crazy, but I guess you get to have things happen to yourself to maybe change opinion on it. So that being said, I think that it's just, it could be a spiritual thing, you know, um, Bigfoot, um, It's like the keeper of the woods, the forest. You know, they know the balance they need between the harmony and the nature of things. So, and just like Indians, Indians were the same way. They're spiritual beings. They're spiritual people. And anywhere you go and talk to anybody,
Starting point is 00:33:41 they're very, very well known amongst the Indian tribes. There's not Indian tribe one. Here, I didn't realize this, but here, they call them, they call them tree people. So it makes sense, right? And they live amongst the trees. And that's the other thing. I think that, you know, you got to be open to things, okay? I wasn't like dead set on this idea about the spiritual stuff.
Starting point is 00:34:18 And that's because, you know, you're a Christian. You know, God created everything. And I'm not trying to debate down with anybody. But the spiritual aspect of this, because the Indians were a spiritual being. Okay. it could very well be that Bigfoot is here to protect their land after they're gone. You know what I mean? People that see Bigfoot, people are like, oh, no, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:55 think about all the land that's never been stepped on by man at all. And you think that something like that couldn't still be here? I think it could. And also, like I said, I think it's spoke spiritually in all this, that because of the orbs and everything I've caught, that's what changed my mind. I'm trying to find Bigfoot and maybe I already did and don't realize it.
Starting point is 00:35:22 Sure. Yeah, absolutely. What is, I mean, you're in an interesting situation because you live on the land and now you realize there's something else on the land. Do you have a game plan with what to do regardless? this or is it just kind of, you know, live and each side do their own thing? Well, I have a lot of time on my hands and I've invested in cameras, like I said, trail pams. I got seven trail pams that come right to my phone, and then I have three, I got three cameras.
Starting point is 00:36:08 traps. So, you know, I got the cameras out, that's for sure. And I just, if they know where they're at, man, they're not stupid. And, you know, I was telling people this. I says, you know, if they don't want to be seen, you're not going to let you see them. It's that simple. I don't know if they feel threatened because I do have firearms and I do practice here. And like I said, my buddy comes over here and hunts on the property, but he owns with an air gun. He doesn't, yeah, just quietly. And so, you know, he, but like he said, man, you know, he's the one that found the scat.
Starting point is 00:37:00 He's like, look at this. And, you know, he's a hunter. He's been out in the woods. He's, like, what does this come from? And then I asked him, I said, I don't know, I don't know, could it be a coyote? He's like, nope, not a coyote. He goes, it's not a deer.
Starting point is 00:37:17 He was, look at all big this is. He goes, as it comes, that's, that's bigger than any animal that we have in the woods to leave that type of scat. So that's why I picked it up. I took pictures of it, just so I got it so you can see what have, you know, what, what left it there? I just know that we got rabbits, we got raccoves, we got deer, we have, we have squirrels, but, you know, foxes, I've seen a fox out here, you know, stuff like that, but it's not, what, they didn't leave that, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:38:06 saying? It's like, no, it's common sense. Look, I don't go into the woods and go, that must have been big foot. I like that. But when I see things out of the ordinary like that, it makes me stop and go, whoa, what left this? That's not any animal that I know out in the woods that would leave something like that. Are you doing anything such as some people who find themselves in this situation
Starting point is 00:38:38 start a gifting or leaving food out in a certain way. Is there anything like that going on? No, I don't do anything like that. And the reason I don't, okay, look, I don't really go out and mess around very much just because I know something's out there. A lot of times I feel like I'm being watched. I don't
Starting point is 00:39:13 I just don't I just don't want them to think that I want them I want to communicate with it because I really don't I just want to give them their space you know what I mean but in the same it's like it's like
Starting point is 00:39:32 you know the angel or the devil's uh the devil's telling me yeah you you know you want to you want to reach out to them And the angel's like, no, you're good. So the reason I say that is because a lot of times I'm by myself. And so I just, I don't want to become a missing person. That's how I feel about.
Starting point is 00:39:56 I, you know, I mean, I've had whatever it was growl at me from the wood line like it was standing right next to me. So that's why it gives me pause. You know what I mean? I'm like, uh, what if? what if it decides that this isn't enough? That in the basketball size rock being thrown in your direction, that would really make me think about how I would move on my own property for sure. Oh yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And, you know, I tell people this all the time, I don't have to go nowhere, Jeremy. I have enough right here in my backyard. And like I said, the state game land is right here. I mean, you know what I'm saying? All you do is walk out my back door and chief walking, and you're going to be in the Black River from here. It's probably less than half a mile from miles.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Gotcha. Did Brian say anything about why he thought there were clans on either side of your property, or is it just based on stuff he had seen maybe? Well, I think because he, you know, Brian knows people. Brian's a really good dude too. I really like Brian. Like I said,
Starting point is 00:41:20 he come on here to my property. Very professional. I only have good things to say about Brian. I really like the guy. Very, very nice man. And he's very knowledgeable. He's just not somebody going,
Starting point is 00:41:34 you know, and it's like, okay, whatever. He's not like that. But Brian I had reached out I'd send him some pictures Jeremy And then that's when he reached out to me and said hey
Starting point is 00:41:47 Stacey There's from what I From the information that he's received from other people And the stuff that he does He said there's a clan north of me And a clan south of me And he said they could be fighting for territory While they're putting all the structures up and everything
Starting point is 00:42:06 Which makes sense kind of like, you know, I'm marking your territory, but they're doing it with structures. Absolutely. I think that. Yeah, doesn't it? Because I've been a big predator and alpha is going to want to mark its territory. It's no different than any other, you know, animal bears do that. Bears let, you know, they mark their territory and so to other wild animals.
Starting point is 00:42:36 So I think that, yeah, why wouldn't they? And maybe we take these structure buildings for more than what they really are. It's just marking your derentory. Maybe it's this way. The biggest structure means the biggest and baddest big foot, you know what I'm saying? I mean, it could be, right? I mean, you know, so I love living out here. Like I said, I don't have to leave and go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:43:10 I'm right up my back door. And, you know, but like I said, a lot of times I don't like to be out there by myself. I just don't. Yeah, absolutely. We were kind of talking about that before recording that. It kind of sounds like you're trying to find someone to help out or? Yeah, I would like to have somebody getting touch of me. uh that that's invested some money in all i'm saying in their own equipment and then we can do
Starting point is 00:43:40 a night investigation now that's really what i would like um because they i've been all back every pretty much every day except the last little cold spell we had because it's just not healthy for me i'm 59 i want to live i got little grandbabies so i want to be around but yeah that I'd like to have another researcher. I know what's happened to me. Okay. And I know it's not a natural thing. It isn't.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Hey, this is a tree got knocked down over there. And then the other bottom part of it has been broken off. And the lay, okay, it goes like this. Who does? Not the wind. The wind don't do that. And that's right out here behind my house. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:32 I don't stay up late enough because I have to get my sleep because of medication they take. So I'm usually in bed by six, sleep by seven. Okay. But my dog's been acting really weirdly. Like, Jeremy, we got a sliding glass door, or, you know, then you go right out in their backyard. She'll, I have a pit bull. She's never done this before, man. she'll sit with her nose against the window and just do a roll of really
Starting point is 00:45:06 her. You're not going to look at the window because I think I'll be a dear to be this. And so she'll get up and I'll let her outside, man. She'll run to the edge of the fence and start barking and barking and put her head in the air and sniff the air and then she'll go to the other part of the pan and she's looking the whole time right all back in the woods. I don't know what it could be. I just know it's not near because I had deer there the night come out here and
Starting point is 00:45:38 she barked a little bit. It's, you know, not a big deal, but yeah, her hairs are raised on her back and everything. Yeah, I don't know what it is. She's never acted like this before. And it's the last week, week and a half, she's been doing us. And that's right after all this got felled over here. And one of the trees got moved, man. One of the trees that
Starting point is 00:46:00 thing that was out straight coming out of the, out of our woods to the side of the house here was, was what this, you know, straight out towards our yard. I go out there yesterday.
Starting point is 00:46:16 This thing has been moved. It's been picked up and turn the opposite way. And I'm like, and so now I start looking for footpress. But the only problem is, is is that if you don't get out there when they shouldn't dawn, it's kind of hard to find foot footprints, you know what I mean? Because the snow's been moved, it's been melted.
Starting point is 00:46:36 I looked, I looked and I look. And then I got to be careful because now I'm leaving traps. Exactly. You know what I mean? So let's that catch 22. It buddies the water. Yep. So it sounds like you are open to having a serious Bigfoot researcher that is
Starting point is 00:46:57 put the time and resources together to come perhaps do an overnight investigation with you. Now, do you have like an email address that people could contact you directly regarding that? It's Athens, Stacey, H-E-K-I-N-S-T-A-C-A-C-Y-S-S-T-A-C-Y-S-S-T-A-C-E-M-E-M-E-M-E-Mail. Perfect. I just want serious people, you know, I have two sets of night vision goggles. I've got a thermal, and I have everything. we need pretty much. For what I need to do, I just need somebody that's got their own, you know, I'm saying, and can contribute. You know what I'm saying? Because I know what they're doing?
Starting point is 00:47:53 Yeah, knows what they're doing. That's what I want. Stacey, what an interesting new piece of the puzzle for this area, because there's so much information coming out, a lot of it because of Brian Sawyer and the work that he's been doing and some other individuals in Michigan as well. But, you know, thank you so. much for coming on the show, sharing what you're experiencing, and definitely, you know, keep us in the loop if you start to experience other things as well on your property. We would love to hear about it. Oh, yeah, absolutely, Jeremy. I'll make sure, man, to keep you on a loop for sure, for sure.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I appreciate you having me on your show, too. I really do. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summer Fest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this, there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because
Starting point is 00:49:16 let's just say sometimes it's, uh, well, you just got to be there. We'll leave it that. More about looking for Bigfoot in the Oak Ridge Woods. Now check this out. You may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch. Well, this year, you can not only go to the festival, but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this. And yes, this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series, which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once-in-lifetime deal.
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Starting point is 00:50:40 I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year. We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it. And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch, or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain,
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