Bigfoot Society - When the Forest Turned Hostile | Mt. Hood

Episode Date: February 20, 2026

Gary Allen from the Bigfoot Research Project returns to recount a harrowing series of events at Lolo Pass that culminated in a moment where his girlfriend and her horse came dangerously close to losing their lives during an encounter deep in the Mount Hood wilderness. What began as a familiar ride in a place they knew well escalated into something far more serious as the terrain, the animals, and the forest itself seemed to turn against them.Join us as Gary shares what happened on that mountainside, how it changed his understanding of these encounters, and why some places can never be approached the same way again once the stakes become this high.Gary's channel -https://www.youtube.com/@bigfootresearchproject8081/videos🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to [e-mail] – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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And each one leaves us with more questions than answers. These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods forever. So stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. We've got the privilege of having Mr. Gary Allen back on the show. We've had Gary on the show recently two times. He's been sharing multiple things that have happened around Oregon for him specifically in the Mount Hood, low, low, pass area.

and with the Bigfoot Research Project is where you can find the videos that he might be referring to, and that's on YouTube. So welcome back to the show, Gary. How are you doing today, sir? Doing well. Thank you. Awesome. Trying to think the last time we talked, we had some, you shared some really interesting things. I want to say it was around 2022 you were referring to, and there was the individual that was in the,

tent and there's the big foot that was smelling her hair and it got very, very intense. It was so weird. And she screamed at the top of her lungs and nobody heard her. That was just odd. I mean, don't understand it, but. Absolutely. We ended last episode with, we still have some things to hear. You're saying we have stuff from, you know, 20, 23 through.

2025 and maybe some other things depending on where we go in this episode. But, you know, Gary, I want to make sure we make the best use of our time today. So you're welcome to take us back to where you'd like to pick up with your encounters. Okay, thank you. First of all, I apologize if my voice is a little gravelly today. I'm just getting over a cold, but this is the only time and day I could do this. So here we go. Just one other thing. If I look down, I am looking at, I'm looking at notes, but they're high points. It's not like a story I'm reading or anything like that. All of this is from memory, and mine's pretty good. You know, if I had just gone off the 2019 siting, you know,

where I was watching one for eight minutes. And if that was the only thing that happened, you know, I wouldn't need notes. It's just we've had so much activity. And I'm just talking about the sightings when I'm talking with you. But I've seen rocks thrown that are the size of bowling balls and hit trees that are, you know, 150 feet up in the air and break limbs all the way down and just continuous bombardment of little pebbles. and, you know, heard voices, heard all kinds of things that I'll touch a little bit on with these sightings, but there's just so much more than just the siding up there.

And we don't see them every time we go out. It's just that's not the gig. We go on rides. We ride about four or five times a week here out of our ranch. Got a small 32-acre tree farm ranch here, and here over in the coast range, about 30, miles southwest of Portland. Our property butts right up against the Stimson timber property, which is 77,000 acres. And Stimson gives us permission to ride our horses back in there. Very few people have permission to go in there, but we have it. Also, that 77,000 acres at the

summit touches up against 350,000 acres of Telemock Forest. So basically, as a crow flies from my house, it's 20 miles to the ocean. And you can ride a horse from my house to the beach. It's possible to go up over the range and come back down. And once you get to the top of the range, you can see the ocean. All that being said, you know, I spoke about multiple sightings up to this point. You know, one actually down the road at the entrance to the lake on the highway that goes between Forst Grove and Gaston, one up at, Northrop Creek and then the 2019 and 2020 up at Lolo Pass. We don't just encounter them up at Lolo Pass.

We encounter them pretty much everywhere we go. Just not every time. I mean, it's like one out of 10 rides, we'll have something happen. My belief is that, you know, they have to be in the area that you're in, and then they have to be attracted to you for some. reason, you know, whatever it is you do. If you're walking around, you know, stealthy and camo, they probably aren't going to know you're there and, you know, or they'll know you're there and just leave you alone. We do the opposite of that. We're riding a horse and a bike and I got

bright yellow shirt on and we're laughing and having fun and, you know, making fun noises while we ride up the trail. It keeps the horse aware that when I'm out in front of it and I go around a corner, when it comes around the corner, it's not startled because it hears me because we're constantly making noises back and forth. And, you know, we do whoops. And mainly we make the caca back and forth. And on my videos, you'll see me do that quite a bit. It's to keep the horse settled.

The horses used to that. So if you look at my videos and you see that, and I know a lot of people say, oh, that's just stupid. But I don't care. It's keeping our horse safe. So the thing about endurance horses is their Arabs are really flighty, really touchy and the slightest thing can set them off. So we have to be real careful, you know,

when we're up there in the mountains, which I'll get to hear in a bit about the siding that stopped us from going up to Lolo Pass anymore. So at least up this one trail. But anyways, we'll get to 2023. I left off in 2022. In 2023, we, again, we have a tree farm and we harvested 77 truck loads of trees off of it.

You know, they're 120, 150 feet tall. Anyways, we harvested all these trees because we're opening up and doing a replant and opening up some acreage for some other stuff we're planting because we are a farm and area for the horses. So one of the areas we cleared is next to our house and I can see it out my kitchen window. It's about 16 acres of hillside and it's pretty steep. As I look out the window, the hill the hill goes at an angle to me you know 30 degree or whatever it's pretty steep but it's really rugged um

there's no trails nothing up there yet we're we're gonna put some in but right now there's just fallen trees and brush that's about about three to four feet tall with blackberries in it you're not you're nothing you want to run through it'd be be detrimental to a person you know or your clothing to try and and and running up that steep of a hill's not really a great thing anyway so what i'm getting at is June of 23, I was making coffee in my kitchen. And we've, we've lived in this house since 20, I want to say 2020. So we've lived here three years and we harvested the wood the second year. So this is the first full year of having the trees on that side of the property, mostly harvested. We left quite a bit, but it's pretty clear over there. So anyways, sun's just coming up. I always wake up before daylight.

and I was making coffee. And the sun's just coming up. So there's enough light that, like if a deer or something was running up that hill, I could see, oh, that's a deer. You know, if, you know, a bird flies by or whatever over there, you know, an eagle, because we got quite a few of those up here. I'd see that that's, you know, that's what it was. I could make out, you know, pretty good.

It had enough light I could see. And here's what I saw. I noticed some movement across the hill. And I saw two figures. So the hills like this, I saw two figures running up the hill. What really drew my attention is how fast they were moving up the hill. Deer are fast, and they bound uphill pretty darn fast. These were moving about twice as fast as any deer I've ever seen go up that hill.

Deer go up and down that hill daily. We see them all the time. Don't really see deer run up that hill, though, but these two things were. So they're just one right behind the other running up the hill. I'd say probably three times bigger than a black bear. And they're moving so fast. I mean, their legs were like a blur of movement, but they were just racing up the hill. They made that hill from bottom to top, and it's several hundred feet.

I'd say probably in about five or six seconds. I mean, it was just like stupid fast. If a deer were to go up that hill would take it probably about twice as long. And that's what's drawing my attention is these things are just moving fast. They're jet black and no ears, no snout, wasn't a bear, no snout, couldn't make out features. Again, I could see their heads, I can see their bodies. and their shoulders and their side was above the three foot brush by about two feet when they ran. And I can see the length of their body.

They were pretty, I mean, they were big. I mean, they were, it looked like if our horses were trying to go up through that, but, but so much faster and, you know, didn't look like horses. But anyways, they were huge, two of them running up the hill. So I saw that and I just kind of stunned for a second. I'm thinking, wow, I've heard a few tree knocks out here and I've heard. Gary, you there? Hello.

Are we back? Hey, Gary. That was weird, man. So I don't know what happened there. And we're still recording, by the way. My whole computer just locked up. I had to reboot. Sorry.

We haven't really broached weird stuff on this yet, but like weird stuff happens sometimes. And so when you were telling your story, I saw it across the room what looked like a little tiny something moving, like a little ball of light or something. It was weird, dude. I don't know. Sometimes this subject just creeps me out and I'm wondering, what am I doing, man? Am I, you know, sometimes I feel way over my head and, you know, it's supposed to be a fun hobby. And I think I'm, I think I'm poking the bear a little too much here sometimes, but, or the big foot for whatever you want to term there. Oh, I agree with you, man.

I mean, I feel the same way sometimes. So the last thing I heard was you had heard there were like, there was like two or three knocks. Oh, yeah. Over over the couple years before that that we've lived here, we're heavily wooded right up to the house. I mean, you couldn't throw a rock 20 feet out. It hit a tree. And there would be knocks like 100 feet down below. And I've had people that were staying with this because people bring the,

their horse trailers and campers up and they ride with us and stuff. They would say they woke up in the morning and they thought somebody was knocking on their back door or something so the knocks were so loud. But they opened the door and then they heard the knocks down below. It was just so loud that it woke them up. But I've only heard it once in a while, like in summer I'll hear a couple. but some of the odd things are mainly the owl noises that we hear are just a little off, not quite the boroughs owl, you know, who cooks for you?

They'll be slightly off or drug out. And I've heard that before up at Lolo Pass and over at Northrop Creek and Rears Camp and a couple of other places. But so anyways, yeah, so these things are ran up the hill, like, stupid fast, like crazy fast. And so I'm looking around for tracks and stuff. I find Cougar tracks. I find bear tracks. We have a bear that lives at the pond down below us.

And she has cubs like every other year or so. And we see her once in a while way down on the outskirts of our tree line. Really not afraid of bears much, not afraid of Cougars much. They stay away. And now we have livestock guardian dogs that keep them even further. away. So, so that's not really a thing. Anyways, that, that was pretty much, that was pretty much that 20, 23 around the house thing. Um, we've heard voices at night before, like saying like a single word out, out in our back 40 where there's no people and, uh, so many blackberries, you, you wouldn't

want to walk through there. I mean, it'd be just dangerous. Um, and, uh, that's, it was a human voice, though saying like one word, you know, um, it, it was just strange. But anyways, uh, so, so after that siding, um, that was in June and July, um, my birthday month, we go, my girlfriend asks me every year, what would you like for your birthday? And every year I tell her, well, I'd like to go back up and, you know, train the horses at Lolo Pass because it's just, it's beautiful up there. The Sandy's right there. And it's just gorgeous.

And every year she says, okay. And I think she's crazy for doing that. but she's pretty fearless. At least she was. So in 23, we went back up and we unloaded on a Friday. We write out. We're just going to go to the three rivers and back. And it's a couple miles out.

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they had two sightings. And in 19 and 20, in 21 and 22, you know, didn't see anything out, you know, nothing, no action out there. But, um, so anyways, you know, we're, we always look over there and we're watching what the horse is up to and, you know, seeing where it's pointed its ears at. And it was, it was pretty much fine. Um, oh, let me backtrack. I, I built a, um, a small. e-bike and I brought that too and we invited Tom Powell Joe B. Lart and some other friends up and Tom rode the small bike with me until he couldn't then I switched bikes with them but we rode to the three rivers and back and on the way there didn't didn't see anything

nothing of consequence come back then I'm right out with the horse and we go to the rivers and back just warming the horse up and um nothing strange i mean it's a little quiet but just nothing strange so um we decided well we're going to ride the two bikes again because we had a couple hours before before twilight ride the two bikes again and this is where it got weird so we're riding up this trail and we get we get you know a ways out there to where that meadow is you know two miles out or whatever. And, and, um, and the trail is, is the, the horse trail is flat and the sides of it are up. Um, it's dirt has been packed down over time in the middle of the trail. So the sides of the trail are about a foot tall. Some places they're two to three feet tall. Or it'll be level

ground, but the brush right there or rocks right there will be one to three feet tall. Um, and for, for quite a distance in a several spot. It's almost not flat off to the sides of the trail anywhere on that trail. But we ride past the first half of the meadow and then come up to a tree branch that's been laid across the trail. The branch is, I don't know, three, four inches around. You can ask Tom. Anyways, in about eight feet long. And it's pretty well stripped of any.

thing, but it's right across the trail. And because the trail sits down in the scull, it's sitting about a foot or, you know, foot and a half off the ground. So can't ride a bike through, have to stop, have to move the branch, right? So we go about another hundred feet, and there's another one. We go another hundred feet and there's another one. There are a total, I think, four or five of these. And so it was just strange because we had just been through there like a half hour before. And if anybody was in that area, there's only one trail. in there's no two trails and there's nowhere else to walk through the thick brush you would have to go bias either on the way in or on the way out on between these two runs so whatever did that

was there in a and and stayed there in the time loop that we were gone and came back so tom and i think well shoot you know they looks like they like sticks so let's build them a structure so down by the river, we built a lean-to kind of teepee thing and made it about, I'd say about seven or eight foot tall. And there are all kinds of branches. We leaned together. And we put some branches through sideways. And I had some apples with me and I put some apples on it and had a bag of salmon. And I put the salmon on it. And in the bag, though. And it was all good food. The salmon was real tasty, smoked salmon. And I think I had two bags of salmon, so I put two bags up. And I put some, some cookies. I brought some Oreos. So I put all that in this, this lean to. And so I took a

couple of pictures of it, and we rode back, rode back to camp. And so a couple hours later, we get ready for the Twilight ride. And this is, this is where we have our sighting. So, So we go out, we go out past the meadow, nothing, three rivers, everything seems fine, horses just moving right through it. And this time we have, we're riding Marcus, and this was the last year that Marcus could be ridden. He had a disease in his hooves. So this was his last time out there. I miss him.

I miss Beast mode. But anyways, so we crossed the rivers. And we go up, we're going up the backside of, I call it Skookum Ridge. Skookum Ridge is, it's about a, gosh, four or five thousand foot rise off the floor of up from where those three rivers are. And it's all switchbacks. It's just really steep. Trails real narrow for most of it. Some places it spreads out, but for the most part, it's, you know, foot wide.

and if you, for the most part, the drop-off is on the right side. It switches back and forth a little. But if you drop off that hill, you're going to fall a couple hundred feet before you hit your first tree. And it's like, it looks like about that. I mean, it's just steep as hell. You wouldn't want to fall, it would be bad. And the uphill side is about the same. So you're almost rubbing your elbow in parts going up this hill.

So anyways, we head up the hill, and as soon as we get across the three rivers, we start hearing something parallel on us. I can hear it once in a while breaking a branch. It sounds like stomping down below us. So we're going up the ridge. It sounds like it passed us and got ahead of us and is coming around in front of us, and we're kind of coming up this way, and it came around. So then we're hearing something above us on the ridge. And these little tiny pebbles start flying down and they're hitting my front wheel. So they're timing it because I'm going up a pretty steep ridge.

I'm doing about eight miles an hour on my bike. And they're timing it just right to hit my spokes as I'm going up this hill. And they keep hitting it too, man. They hit it like four or five times in a row. And I have it all on camera. All of this is on GoPro. So I'm getting these pebbles, you know, I'm telling my girlfriend who's ahead of me, I'm getting these pebbles thrown at my front wheel, you know,

and we're kind of laughing about it, you know, and I'm wearing a fluorescent yellow shirt, and we're making racket and laughing and stuff, just trying to have a good time. And we know that attracts them, so we're doing it on purpose. And we're going up the trail, and I'm making our fake bird calls, all the way up to let the horse know I'm either behind it or in front of it. So it's not scared when I come around a corner. But so anyways, we get we get further up the trail and there's these really weird structures. I mean, there's tree branches or not tree branches, but trees stacked in different types of pyramid type structures.

Not really something that, you know, you would sleep under type thing, but more of, ambush kind of site for something coming up the trail. You know, if a deer is coming up the trail and you're sitting behind that, it may not see you. So anyways, we're seeing those that we're going, okay, this is getting weird because those weren't there last time. So we keep going up the trail, because I mean, we go up this trail every year. So we're going up going up the trail a little bit further.

And we're at this time, we're probably about, it's seven miles up to the top. and we're about five miles up. And there's this, there's, the trail comes up, up a hill to a, to an outcrop, you know, from the side it would look like this. And the outcrop, um, almost goes over the trail and it's just, it's like, uh, I don't know, 50 feet tall or more. And again, I have, I have all this on camera and, um, on video. So, so we, we come up around this corner and there's a switchback right, right before this big

outcrop starts and it's probably on a 200 feet long about anywhere from 50 to 75 feet tall so the horse just stops and this horse I've I've never seen it stop we've had sightings on that horse and it and it just keeps moving it doesn't lock up it locked up and it locked up hard and I have it on video it's just staring straight ahead and it's not going forward and she she should tried and tried to get it to go forward and it would not. And we're not seeing anything up the trail. So I catch up a little bit closer to her. I don't want to get too close because the horses, it's probably going to have to maneuver and spin around.

The horse is here. The outcrop is here. And the horse is just in front of it. And the ridge next to the outcrop is steep. And instead of wanting to go forward, the horse jumps up on the hill there and spins around, starts walking up it and turns around, and just comes downhill. It won't go any further. And again, never seeing it do that before.

So I'm thinking there's probably a cougar up ahead or something. It's not a bear because he's not afraid of bears. He chases bears off. I've seen him do it. But there must be a cougar in there. That's the only thing I can think that would stop him. And so I write up there and I got my video going. and there's, I can't see anything.

So, and it's light enough, you know, that my camera, if there's anything there, it probably picked it up, but I've not seen it with my eyes. So the horse has turned around and it's, it's not staying there. It's made up its mind. It's leaving. And my girlfriend can't stop it. It wants to go. So it's going.

So I'm looking out and I can see across the canyon right there. I can see down this canyon. It's probably, I don't know, 4,000 feet to the bottom. And then I can see this other ridge across from me that is probably, I don't know, five, six, six thousand feet. So I'm looking over at it. And I'm thinking, well, right now is as good a time as to tempt fate as any. And I got, you know, the big footers back at camp.

And I'm trying to lure these things down so they can see them. So I decide to make some noise. So I have the ability to whistle extremely loud. If you're within 10 feet of me, it'll hurt your ears. So anyways, I do a couple whistles across that canyon, knowing that there's still something right there, probably close to me. And, you know, no reply, no nothing.

Don't hear anything. And the horse is starting to get away from me. He's getting pretty far down hill. And so I turn and I start heading downhill a little bit. Well, I come to a spot maybe, I don't know, a couple hundred feet down from that where I could see across the canyon again. Because there's an opening in the trees on the lower hillside. And the trees are, you know, 150 feet tall. So to get an opening, and only the tops of the trees are at my height, but there's a little bit of an opening there.

and I stop for a second because I have to cool my brakes. I have to cool my brakes about every couple thousand feet because the hill's so steep, it heats them up and I'll burn them out and have no brakes if I don't do that. So I carry a water bottle and I douse the brakes. And I hear what sounds like somebody took a one-ton Ford pickup truck and shoved it off the top of that hill on the far side. And now it's going down through the trees just, I don't know, maybe a bulldozer would be more of an accurate, but whatever it is, is giant.

It's making so much racket that across this canyon, I can hear it going down the hill on the far side right directly towards me, down the hill. And then it starts coming up my side of the hill, and I could hear it coming up my side. And I thought, well, if it was a boulder, it would have stopped at the bottom. Now it's coming up my side. And I'm up, you know, four or five thousand feet up. And it starts coming up, like, it got to about 1,000 feet. And I'm like, I'm out of here.

So I roll down the hill. I get caught up to where the horse is. She tells me that she's freaking out. She says, right as I caught her, it goes from really steep to kind, you know, semi-steep in spots, then really steep. Well, she came into a semi-steep area, and the trees are real thick on the right side, but not so thick on the left, and it's, you know, of course, a drop-off. She said something came out of the trees, well, something, a big foot came out of the trees and was running, like, at an angle in front of her, crossed the trail, and then jumped off the cliff,

went downhill, made a big rock-slide noise, and then all the, all the, noise just stopped. And she said the horse stopped. It was just tripping. It didn't like that at all. And when I got there, I had to go first after that because the horse will follow me on my bike because we train together and all of our horses feel really safe around me for some reason. Anyways, so I'm in front of it and I'm just thinking, well, crap, and I have a point where it went down and I can see I can see slide marks on the side of the hill where something slid. It's starting to get dark. It was twilight. This is a broad daylight. It's starting to get fairly dark and we still have, you know, like three miles to go before we hit the three rivers and then it's, you know,

a couple back to camp. And so, so we're going down the hill and I have to stop to cool my brakes off or else they're destroyed and you know, I have to put new brakes on, which I don't bring with me. And so the horse finally starts to feel comfortable again, like a mile down, mile and a half down. I can still hear something parallel on us off to the left, but it's way down the hill now. And so we're starting to feel a little bit, you know, a little bit better. And so we get down to one of two landings that's on this hill.

I call them a landing, but it's where the timber company, you know, 100 years ago, cut a trail up around this hill, you know, like at five miles up, and I think it's six miles up, something like that. Anyways, give or take. So anyways, we come to one of those, I call it a landing, and my brakes, I can smell them. I mean, they're just so hot. And I put water on it, instantly vaporizes. And again, I have, all of this is on camera.

I got my GoPro rolling. and I think I put a fresh battery in it right then. I usually have 45 minutes per battery in 4K. And so I put a fresh battery in it and everything was working fine. And meanwhile, while I'm sitting still, these rocks are flying, little pebbles are flying and hitting the brush just 20 feet from me. And I can see it ripping through the leaves of the brush. and I'm going, honey, look, they're tossing pebbles at us again. And she goes, well, we should go.

So horse is pretty spooked, but he's calmed down quite a bit. And so, and again, I have, I have this on camera. You can see the rocks hitting and hitting the brush and stuff. So, so we, we come the rest of the way down this hill and, you know, it's switch back after switch back and there's some straightaways but it's steep I stop a few more times still hearing movement but it seems like it's further off so we get down to the first of the three rivers that we have to cross and there's a rock face that's uh on a less than a hundred feet away and it's probably 75 feet tall and um she crossed the water i'm i'm in the middle of it

and then we hear a whoop from the top of the outcrop. So it was within 100 feet watching this. And I look up and, you know, I got, I got the camera because it's on my, I wear it on my hat. I'm looking up and the camera might have caught it, but I didn't see anything. So, so I'm, you know,

I got paid attention to what I'm doing and I may or may not have dropped my bike. I can't remember. I drop it all the time and things just clumsy. But, you know, it weighs 110 pounds. So it's, you know, big fat tire bar. with one horse motor electric motor and a big battery. So anyways, I'm trying to keep moving, though. You know, we want to get out of there.

Obviously, they're either just messing with us just to see what our reaction is or they want us out of there. Either way, we're leaving. So we crossed the three rivers. And the last one, the one closest to camp, is the deepest and the widest. And just get across that. And now the meadow where we have all these sidings will shortly be on our left. There's a ton of skunk cabbage right in there.

But to our right, here a tree get pushed over. Boom. And it was close enough that we could feel it. Felt it through the ground. And I'm thinking, I just got that on camera? No. I'm looking at my camera. when I got back to camp and my batteries died.

So I just put them in like 20 minutes before that, you know, half hour tops. And they should have gone for 40. Nope, dead as a door now. And it was dead, I think, before the whoop. It died right before that water crossing, which sucks. And then I have a rear camera off the back of my bike that I point uphill. I think that one was still running.

I'll have to check, but I think it died. it the point where the tree crashed. So both cameras dead. Both had good batteries. Can't explain it. So anyways, so we get back to camp. It's pitch black. I'm talking with the guys and telling them what happened.

And one of the guys has a theory that when the trees get pushed over, it's a noise that Bigfoot can make. somehow it mocks the tree cracking, breaking, and falling. And I heard it crack, break, and fall. And I'm like, I don't know about that, you know. And he's, well, it's in another dimension sometimes or whatever. And I haven't seen other dimensions. I haven't, you know, the whole woo thing, I'm not,

I really don't care one way or another on it. I just haven't witnessed anything like that. It doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You know, there's a lot of things I haven't seen. You know, I haven't seen a SpaceX rocket launch in person. It doesn't mean they're not there. So anyways, and my girlfriend, she gets feelings around animals and stuff and around these things too. She gets feelings that, I mean, I can talk about in a different video.

So anyways, we get back to camp and we're talking about that. And I'm like, no, I felt it hit the ground. ground, you know, and, and I could see a bunch of brush moving around when it crashed. And it was, it was, you know, 100 feet away when it hit. And it's really thick trees through there and tons of brush that's like, you know, five to 10 feet tall in spots. But I saw all that move around, like something just hit right there. And it was so close. I mean, we got, we got out. And, you know, I probably should wear microphones or something when I go up there. So you can at least get the sound off of this stuff. And, I mean, I mean, I maybe that's, I'll write that down. That's something I can do. But, so anyways, so we get back to camp. Oh, by the way, we go by the TP that Tom and I built earlier, and it's still there. So hadn't been touched.

Apples, nothing. So the next morning, my girlfriend goes out, and that night, one of the guys said, hey, you want to go back down there and it's dark now. And I'm like, oh, I'm, nah, it pushed the tree over. I think it made its intentions. known. I think I'm good. I don't want a tree pushed over on me, and that one was pretty close. I'm good. You know, go ahead, though. Here, you can borrow my yellow shirt. They're like, no, no, no. So anyways, next day, my girlfriend and some of the girls from camp decided they're

going to go down to the river, just walk the horses, because horses just love being walked. And they walk out there and that tepee that we made was gone. It wasn't smashed the ground. It wasn't torn apart like an animal would tear apart for food. It was gone. Like completely gone. Like, no sign of it, gone. Apples. The bag, the salmon pieces, the two bags salmon was in. All of it gone. And so she told me that. And she took, pictures and you can see it's not there anymore. Not just, it's gone. So later in the afternoon, I got got my,

my, I don't know what, my, my mojo back and I decided, okay, well, I'm going to go down there and just look at it where, I'm just going to where the TP, I'm not crossing the freaking river anymore, not, not on that trip. So, so I, I go back and I look and I found a couple of the sticks. but they were thrown in like opposite directions. And I found, I think I found three of the ten. And they were, oh no, 30, 40 feet away from where that was.

So if it was a bear knocking it over, it would have tore stuff up right there. It wouldn't have, you know, took one limb over here, another limb over there, one here, one there. It wouldn't have scattered things to the four winds. And I'm pretty sure the baggies would be somewhere close, buy. But the apples, not a sign of the apples, and I think I had like three or four on there. I had these little plastic horses that I bought. I bought a bag of like 200 of them. They're different

colors, and I had those on it. Those were even gone. So they took the toys and, you know, maybe a crow would do that. I don't know. Maybe a bear got, I'm trying to think of what, you know, what could have happened. But I'm pretty sure a bear wouldn't want a plastic toy. And so, so anyways, so that happened. And that was the end of 23 and, and we come back home. Any questions on 23? I'll tell 24. Yeah, real quick.

This is up on your YouTube channel, like that whole journey, right, in 23? It may be. Some of it may be. I have all this video on on on on a hard drive and and my more more recent rides are on this laptop I just bought at Christmas it's got 64 gig and it's it's I built it to build to load stuff up so it will be on my YouTube channel and you know the next month or two I'll I'll put all these up and and one thing about my videos too is is I'm basically just trying to

show the raw footage I'm I'm not there to pick certain parts out or anything. I just show the whole thing. And people say, oh, well, I saw shadows here. I see something there in the background. They'll see stuff that, you know, I haven't really sat down and looked through each piece by piece. I'm not, I'm not in this to be world renowned.

And I'm not in it to, you know, obviously make money or else I'd have everything up and, you know, be dialed in. Right. Some of my videos have had three quarter of them. million hits though and and and and which is not and and it's and it's just again rough footage i'm you know i'm i'm not i'm not talking about much that the you know hey i was here a couple years ago and i saw this it's it's actual live footage of me going up and this happening um so it's it's um at times again i wonder what i'm doing um sometimes i'm i'm you know just the fear is just

almost overwhelming and you know i i don't know maybe that's it maybe it's the adrenaline from doing all this but i think uh after 2024 i think it's kind of stupid to go up there anymore but um at least up the backside we still go up the front it's less dangerous but um let me get to um what i call the odyssey too so so um in in 2019 i called it the odyssey because you know we spent like four or five hours going up and down skookum ridge and the second half you know coming down you know we were harassed and and had multiple sightings my girlfriend saw four of them well five of them counting the one we saw together and um you know it was just crazy up there everything that was happening so i call that one an odyssey more so than than just a trek you know where we're where we're

we're having a siding. But in 2024, we had another Odyssey. This one, this one's scary. My girlfriend will never go up that trail again because of what happened. And I don't blame her. She almost died. So, so here's what happened on that one. In 2024, we go back again, birthday weekend in July.

And, you know, we set up our corrals and our friends are coming in within hours of that. Joe B. Lart and my friend John and invited a couple other people. One of the engineers from work that I work with wanted to come up. And so we invited a few people up. But we got there about, I'd say probably two hours before anybody else did. And we have this brand new horse trailer. It's just, it's amazing. It's got like a, like a, I want to say,

12 foot slide out and and you know 18 foot living quarters with a giant over a hitch bed and you know it's the things it's like being in a hotel it's just amazing and three horse in the back and um so anyways we pull it and we set it in place and while I'm outside uh leveling it and and um getting I got a standby generator so we can charge your batteries before dark and stuff um While I'm out taking care of stuff, I hear about 200 feet back in the tree line, a child talking. And it's moving. So as I face the tree line, and I'm back at my trailer, as I face the tree line, it's moving through the trees. I would have to be jogging to move at the rate it was moving through the trees.

But it was talking. I heard it talk for, I don't know, probably a minute or two. And it had the high-pitched child voice crystal clear, couldn't understand a word. Don't know what language. Never heard it before. You know, wasn't Asian, wasn't Arabic, wasn't this, that, or the other thing. And, you know, wasn't, I mean, maybe a cross between Asian and Native American, if it was anything. But it was a small child and no other voices, just this one.

and it moved across at a speed that, I mean, I'd have to jog to carry that much speed through the trees. And I thought, okay, well, I kept listening. I'm waiting for an adult to reply back to the kid or something. And the area we're at, there's no humans for a couple miles. We're the only ones in there. And there's no sign of any cars, any people. And there's no trail back there. It's just solid trees.

There's a trail that dissect it, well, a couple trails that dissect it. right in half in a couple spots, but nothing that goes in the direction that the voice was going. Nothing. So it was just really strange. So that started the Odyssey, too. So I'm going to look down, and again, so much happened. I took notes at the time. So I'm just going to take a look.

So this year we're riding a different horse. We have two, and we've been racing the two together. And, you know, they won first place in the Northwest in 2019 out of 400 horses. We're serious about endurance riding. It's a hobby. And that's why we go in the forest, you know, pretty much every weekend. And on weekdays, we ride out in the forest from our house, so, which is in the forest. So anyways, we took our second horse up.

Her name's Bella. Bella's pretty amazing. She's fairly fearless, but she gets spooked easy sometimes. So anyways, we decide we're going to do a Friday Twilight ride. And we go to the three rivers. And she's been across it several times. She's been up the hill too. She knows the game.

She knows what we're up to. She knows we're training. We're doing this. So we get her to the three rivers and she won't even put a foot in the first bit of water. she's staring straight across at a group of trees that are right there and they have brush that goes up about five feet tall into them and there's other trees I mean the whole bank is trees but this is a real thick patch so she's staring at that and she won't move she's just kind of frozen for a bit and then she starts dinking around a little bit she won't she won't move forward

can't get her to go forward and so I catch up and I ask what's up and horse won't go forward have to turn around. Okay. So, you know, it's a couple miles back to camp and, and we decide, well, hey, we can't go up this back trail up Skookum Ridge. Let's, let's go up the front trail. You know, it's a lot wider, especially at the base. And there's a lot less activity that happens up that side, a lot less.

But it still happens. So we start, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, We pass through camp. We tell people what we're doing. And we head up, we head up this other trail. So we're, we're heading up the trail and it's starting to get into switchback after switchback. We came off the kind of flat lands.

It kind of has a dip. And then it starts going up, you know, there's multiple ridges up here. But there's switchback after switchback. We start heading up that. And we're probably, I don't know, probably a mile, a mile and a half up, up it, away from camp. and start hearing owl noises, you know, who, woo, woo.

But they're up the hill and they're actually moving towards us as we keep going uphill. It's like on a, like it's coming right at us as we go switch back after switch back. Well, it's kind of coming down towards us. And it gets louder and louder. And then instead of, who, who, it's, whoa, wow, wow. like a whole different noise, but louder, kind of off owl. Just not right. And it keeps getting closer.

And now it's within a couple hundred feet of us. It came off of a, you know, 2,000 foot ridge that's right before the big ridge. And it came off of that. And the horse just slammed on its brakes. And it would not move forward. going up that ridge. And it not only would not go forward, but it started kicking a little bit. It got upset and spun around and started heading downhill.

I mean, there's no stop in it. It's leaving. And she's trying to pull it, rein it in and get it to, you know, slow down, behave. Runs by me. I'm off to the side. I move off to the side of the troaks. I saw what was happening. And it runs by me.

And again, I have all of this on camera. But, so the owl's still going up above me. It's just making strange noises. And I'm kind of looking around and I'm seeing just odd trees falling in spots that I'm seeing the top of a tree, but I don't see the bottom of it. And like it was broke off or something and then placed there from nowhere close by because I couldn't find the bottom. of it. So I'm looking around. I'm starting to get the creeps and I'm and the owl noise is getting louder. It's getting closer and I start to go down the hill. So we make it to the bottom of the hill and you can still hear the owls coming behind us down this ridge. You can still hear it

coming in and it's now half the distance from camp from where we were up the hill and you can hear it in camp. Um, those voices don't carry that far, but you could hear it and it went on for an hour or so, right from that same spot. Um, so, so that was, that was Friday night. And, uh, you know, we, we have, uh, we put up game cams. I put them around the horses, mainly because they, uh, it, it, game cans tend to repel these things. And so I want my horses to be safe. And so we put those up. You know, I can't wait up all night with them and protect them. So I put these cameras out. Well, the girlfriend from, you know, two years before came up with us, the one that had her hair smelled. And she will no longer sleep in a tent. She had her SUV and had a bed in the back and told her about, you know, what happened with the horse. And she goes,

should I just leave? And we're going, you know, you're going to be safe in your car. But let me, I told her, let me put a game game. cam right in front of the car that shines all, you know, so I can see all around it with that game cam, and they'll leave, they'll leave you alone. And, and, and, and they did. They, they left her alone. Didn't leave us alone, but they left her alone. And I'll, I'll get to that. But, so, um, so on Saturday, everybody was interested in seeing, you know, hey, maybe there's some signs up there, you know, so, um, John and the engineering, myself, the girlfriend, my girlfriend.

Just a bunch of us walk up that front side trail. And it's, you know, broad daylight, probably one or two in the afternoon, beautiful summer day. And it's, again, old growth. Thickest trees are really big and thick. And I absolutely dropped it gorgeous out there. It's like, it's what people think of when they think of Oregon, just green and lush and beautiful. So we're walking back up this hillside and not quite as intimidating in the daylight. So pretty fun.

We're walking up and we see these odd trees. We're trying to figure out. And I got it on camera trying to figure out, well, where did this one come from? Where did that one come from? Because they broke off. And, you know, the wind probably snapped them off. Who knows? But they're not where they should have fell.

They're, you know, 100 feet up the hill or whatever. So we're laughing about it and everything. And we get about a mile up. maybe a mile and a half, about to the point where we turned around the night before. And everybody decides, well, hey, let's go back to camp and eat lunch because we hadn't eaten yet. So the mob heads down the hill with the horse. We're walking a horse with us. And, uh, one or, I think, yeah, I think we just had had Bill at that time. So they're walking off down the hill and I stay behind. And I'm on my, I'm on my bike. I'm, I'm just hanging out. And I let him get a good

15 minute head start and I just sat there and just listened and the trees are the wind's slightly blowing through the trees and stuff. Well, on that side of the hill, you got a whole different canyon that goes across and, and you can see north and there's a, there's a big valley and there's this river that passes through it that eventually joins into the sandy, but huge valley. I mean, it's, I don't know, a mile across or more. and there's a ridge on the far side that's not real tall. It's probably, you know, 3,000 feet tall.

I'm about at the height that it's at on the hillside here on this thing when I first heard it. And what I heard was I heard a tree pushed over. And then it sounded like it rolled all the way down the hill through trees and brush. And again, that bulldozer sound of something just going and over and down a hill is what it sounds like. Just crash, boom, crash, crash, crash, crash. And I'm hearing it clear across this valley. And I'm just, oh, crap, I've heard that before. And so it gets down to the bottom, crosses the river.

I can't see it, of course, because there's too thick. And it starts heading up the hill towards me. And I'm... I'm starting to get a horrible feeling of, you know, a little bit of terror, which I get around these things. I'm not, not, not an extremely brave person, but I could tolerate quite a bit of stuff to try and, you know, get a goal. And my goal was to get one on video. And I'm thinking, no, this thing sounds way too big. I, why can't, why can't I see little ones, you know?

And, and it's just crashing up this hill and it's getting closer and closer. At the rate it's moving, it's going to be on top of me probably in, I don't know, three or four minutes. It's, it's, it's moving fast. And I'm like, okay, I'm bugging out. I'm done. And all the way up the hill, I brought those little horses I was telling you about. Yeah, I brought, I brought those little horses. with me and an apple and I set an apple down there with a horse in it and and I dropped a horse going down the hill every hundred feet or so because I had a big bag of them.

So I'm moving I'm moving down the hill and it changes course on a intersection course to me and it gets it and I'm now I'm like a half a mile away from from the flats and the main big fat trail that's really close to comes out on the road right by camp. And I'm feeling pretty good about myself because I made pretty good time. But this thing had come up and it changed course. It was coming right at me. And then it just stopped in the tree line like, I don't know, a couple hundred feet back. But I could hear it crashing all up to that point. And then it just goes dead silent, right? So I was tripping out on it getting so close to me that I missed my turn on the trail that goes to the car. So I got to go further through the woods before I hit the next turn that goes to my car. And I'm like, oh, crap. So nothing happened,

but I finally, I finally came out, you know, on the road and was able to get back to our roadside corral set up in our camp site. So that, that was a pretty interesting afternoon. So now it gets to Twilight. And we're all set to go up. You know, for 2019 on, we've been going, and this is 2024, we've been going up this back trail at Twilight. And a majority of the time when we come back down, there's activity in and around camp at night.

And I'm, you know, I got these pretty famous people with me. And I'm trying to accommodate them. you know, and bring something into camp for them if I can. You know, I'm bait, basically. And my girlfriend's okay with it. She really, up to this point, didn't really fear these things too much. Even though she's seen, you know, at this point, she had seen like five of them or six of them.

And so anyways, you know, I got camera rolling on my hat. I got one rolling on the back of the bike. and we head out and the horses in front of me, we head out, and then I get in front of it, and we're heading down past the meadow, nothing in the meadow, we get to the rivers, not much at the rivers, just quiet. We cross the river and it starts up again. They're tromping in the hillside below us on the right, and we're going up these windy trails and it's steep, and we're seeing something different that we've never seen before

In a past video, I told you that they had jam sticks through these stumps that are right next to the trail. I mean, they're actually physically within a foot of the trail, and it's a cliff drop off right there. And they shoved these sticks into the stumps where I couldn't pull them out. I couldn't work them back and forth and get them out. And they're about that big around. Some of them are 10 foot tall. Some of them are six foot tall. Well, it looks like the Forest Service had come through and cut all five of those stumps off.

And I have the stumps with the sticks on video, and now I have the stumps gone on video. So that wasn't the weird part, though. The weird part was this. Apparently, the Forest Service, for some reason, felt they had the need to put signs up along the side of the trail that said, do not go beyond this point. Protected area, do not go beyond this point. Well, for five years, those haven't been there, right? So I see one of them and it's facing, you know, right there way. And you can't miss it.

They don't want you going up this hillside, you know, where these things are at, basically. So we come around a corner and there's 40 more of them facing the wrong way. Jammed into a hillside in this gully that you couldn't walk up it. I mean, it's way too steep. And they're just jam one after another all the way up through this goalie facing the wrong way. some of them are bent a little bit, but every single one of them is facing the wrong way of this goal. And I'm thinking, why would the Forest Service do that? You know, that's what a waste?

You know, I knew they didn't do it, but I'm just saying, what a waste. So apparently these things don't like those signs. And they're not going to have it up their hillside. So they gathered them all and shoved them in the ground. And, I mean, they're in the freaking ground. They put them way in when they shoved them in all the way up this. It's a crevice that kind of comes together up the hill. And it's, I mean, it's, it's really steep in there all the way up this.

And like I said, you couldn't walk up that. So I, anyways, it just defies imagination how they got there. So we're going, okay, well, let's, let's keep rolling. So we roll up about another couple miles. And still hearing something moving below. and then it kind of sounds like it veered off and it headed out and it's not not parallel in this anymore. It just goes dead silent. Well, we come up to this, we're coming up this ridge and we're doing switchbacks and steep and steep climbs.

And we get we get up to a switchback and there's a stump right here that is probably, I don't know, 10, 12 feet tall. I have it on camera. It's about three feet around. probably. Fairly fresh cut on it. It looks like the top broke off of it, though. If I remember right, the top was broke off, but it was fairly flat across the top.

Now, I may be mistaken, maybe it was cut. I don't know, but I thought I saw a little bit of jagged pieces on it. On top of that is a rock stack, stack of rocks. There's like five or six of them, and they go from big to small at the top. and about halfway up from the ground there's a tree limb probably about that big around and about and I think it's about 10 feet long and it shoved right through the side of that tree right right dead center across it I mean through it and and it's sticking out the other side

there's no explanation for that. I mean, I went up to it, couldn't move it. Yeah, good luck explaining that one. And that wood was not really that rotten on the stump. It was still a fairly solid stump. So we took pictures of it and I got it on video, of course, because I'm running camera and on GoPro and I got it. I think I was running 2K or 4K.

But anyways, my girlfriend, behind me goes, look at this. And I turn around and there's like 20 or 30. And the more you look, the more you see, these little rock piles. And they look just like the big one up on the stump, but they're half that size. And they're up the hillside off the trail on the left. And some of them are hidden behind the ferns. And there's tons of ferns in there.

And some aren't. Just standing at the trail, you could probably see 15 or 20 of them. But when you look in the ferns, there's that many more all over this corner on this, on this turn that goes up this hill. And we're just like, wow, you know, the more you look, the more you see. And we're thinking, well, you know, is this a nursery or something where kids were playing and, you know, some dad's showing off or whatever. But we're just, wow, this is, you know, got it all on camera again.

So, and a few steel shots. But we decided, well, let's. Let's keep going up. We're losing light. And it's, the sun had gone over the ridge. So it's starting to get to that point where you have, you know, just past the golden hour, you probably got about half hour, maybe 40 minutes of light left before it gets dark enough.

You can barely see the trail or can't see it at all. So we still have quite a bit of light left. We think because, you know, we figure we could be down to the three rivers at about 20 minutes. So we head up further up the hill. We get about a half a mile above that stump. And the hill's really steep in there. It's probably almost at a 45, maybe steeper than a 45. And it comes down to the trail.

The trail's flat and then another 45 off the other side. A bunch of old growth. you know, uphill and downhill. But the trees are, you know, 100 feet away from the trail on the downhill side. So just the tops of them are kind of level with us. And, you know, and they go up 50 feet above, you know, where we're at. And anyways, I'm just kind of, kind of sitting the scene here for this. So we come up, we come up this trail and it's a straightaway that goes for several hundred feet.

And so it's a straightaway, and I'm looking up it. And I'm out front on my e-bike. And we just crossed about a three-foot-tall log that was crossed later. It fell across the path further down. I had to lift my bike over it. The horse had to step over it. And that was probably 500 feet below, I'm guessing, about 500 feet below where we, where we were at right here. So we stop.

or I stopped because I'm ahead of me on this narrow trail that we're staying on that it's probably about, I don't know, a foot wide and then it starts to drop and you got your uphill side. On this trail, there's about, and I'd have to look at the video, I'm guessing maybe five or six logs laying across it that are, some of them are that big around, some are that big around, and maybe a smaller one or two. but they're kind of interlaced with each other, and they're about 10 feet long. Some of them are shorter, but they're all interlaced. So like if you touch one, the whole thing's going to go down the hill,

and there's nowhere to put them. So like if I, if I pull them off, it's going to be, some of them are so heavy. I don't know that I can lift them, but there, it's going to be hard to set them uphill

and not have the rest of them fall off the ridge right there, because they're like supporting each other. It was just, it's like a booby trap. It was the strangest thing. So, again, I got all this on camera. So I'm, I'm looking at this and I look back at my girlfriend who comes up behind me on the horse. And I tell her, hey, baby, this is bad. We can't move forward with these in the trail.

I got to move them. And when I move them, the way they're intertwined, you know, there's a chance they're going to roll off this ridge. You know, and I don't want to just roll them off the ridge, because if I roll them off the ridge, I'm having a lighting problem, which is weird, this battery should last like 10 hours. Anyways,

so I have to lift them up and set them on the uphill side, straight up and down, because if I put them in an angle, they're just going to roll off. So I tell her, you know, once you back the horse up, a ways,

and I'm just afraid these are going to roll. So brace for it, because the horse gets startled pretty easy, right? So I go to move the first piece, and I just get it up off the others, and the whole thing goes off the hill. And it makes, I mean, it sounds like all hell broke, Liz. It sounds like I rolled a Toyota pickup truck down the hill. I just crash, boom, and they're going end over end, and just through the brush,

100 feet down, that starts to slow them down, and they just keep going. And it made the biggest racket. I mean, if you wanted to make the most racket you can, that's what you would do. do. So the horse, I'm afraid of she's going to get hurt. So I look back at her and the horse is kind of dancing a little bit and then it decides it wants to turn around. So it puts a couple feet up on the upper bank and then turns around and starts heading down. She slows the horse and gets it turned around and starts coming back up the trail. So at this point, she's probably 50 feet behind me on the trail and well now the logs are gone so trail's open so i get on my bike and i start to head

up the trail a little bit so she's she comes up to about where the logs were and i'm i'm probably 75 feet out in front of her on a go pro it looks like a lot more because go pro shoot wide vision so anyways it looks like i'm a lot further but i'm not and all of a sudden on the hillside above me like about a 100, 150 feet up, I hear pop, pop, pop, pop, like a tree breaking, right? So on the first pop, I look uphill, and this is what I see. I see a big foot shoving a tree over, and it was probably nine to ten foot tall, massive, just massive. Some people say, you know, they look like a bodybuilder, they come in at a V.

This one had a little bit of V to it, but I mean, it was. It looked like it was about four feet around and giant, giant legs on it and arms, huge arms. And I watched it go like this, this, and then shove it. And what it did was there was an old snag there. You know, a snag is a tree that maybe the top broke off and so the bottom kind of rotted up. Well, the snag was, I don't know, 30, 40 feet tall. And it broke it off right at its base. and shoved it over.

It went push, push, push. And I watched it do the, the, the two pushes before it shoved it, and it completely broke off and made a pop up when it finally broke. And the tree fell down. And the tree was pointed right at our horse. And it was far enough up the hill. When the tree hit the ground, it kind of bounced and slid down towards the horse. it still stopped maybe 50 feet away, 75 feet away.

I don't know if that was its intention or not, but that's what happened. And the horse tripped. It reared up. My girlfriend almost came off the back of it and went down. It reared up again. And again, I have all this on camera. But I almost watched my girlfriend die right there. And it was, it was really hard to watch.

And, uh, freaking light. And so luckily the horse, it kept landing on the uphill side of the trail. Thank God it didn't step, one step backwards in it, they would both be dead. And, uh, it would rear up, come to. down land, rear up, come down land. And it was trying to turn around and point downhill. Once it got pointed downhill, gone. And I'm just standing there.

I'm stunned by what happened. I wasn't like terrified stunned. I was just like my girlfriend almost died stunned. And then all of a sudden this, the terror comes over me. You know, I'm stuck up here. horse is gone. I'm up, I'm up on this hillside and what am I doing, man? Why is this worth it? You know, and what do I do next? And I thought, well, I brought these apples with me and I have them, I have them in a front pack, a bag on my bike and I pulled out an apple and I took one of those toys

and I shoved it in the apple and I shoved the apple on a stick that was sticking up. And I started going down the trail. A little ways further down, I just dropped an apple on the trail. And I dropped a couple of these toys here and there. I was just trying to give them something besides me to focus on. And I can hear it when it, after it pushed the tree down, it turned and went up the hill. It went up the opposite direction of where I was at. So it was, if she's here and it's right above her, I was further up the trail over here. And, So it was up here. It walked off that way, which would be our downhill, above our downhill descent. So it went into the trees up there. And I mean, it's thick. It just disappeared like in three steps. It was gone.

And I can hear it moving around up there and it's not happy. It's breaking brush and stuff. And it's, it's walking along that ridge headed downhill. And I can tell it's walking because it's not moving that fast. But neither is the horse because there's the log lane across the trail. a little ways down. Got my light completely went out. How strange. We get down to where this log was across the path. It was several hundred feet down, 500 feet, I don't know. It was a ways down from the mess we just saw.

And the horse wouldn't cross the log. And that horse never stops at a log. But it didn't want to cross this one. It didn't want to go first. And down below, it's a switchback. And I'm hearing noise down below. And my girlfriend's like, you got to get out ahead because the horse absolutely is not moving forward. It's just sitting there spinning around in front of this big log.

And so I carry my bike over the top of the log. I set an apple down uphill and drop some toys by the log. And the horse came over the top and then down it went. So we're going down the hill. And I'm hearing the crashing in the trees above us. Now I'm hearing it below us. and, you know, it's a couple hundred feet down the hill below us, a couple hundred feet up the hill above us, and it's just thick with trees in there.

And, I mean, you can see on my video what it's like. But we get down to the river, the first of three. I hear a whoop up above on the rock ledge that's up above the river up to the right. and we we cross the rivers and then it it just goes dead silent. I'm like it was it was so weird because some of these times in it, you know, thinking back, this has happened before, it's so quiet that like even my footsteps sound muffled. And I don't know what's going on, but I mean, when it goes quiet, it is freaking quiet.

And it's almost like you have headphones. on too and can't hear your own movement, you know, and things around you. It's just strange. So anyways, it was like that all the way back to camp. So we get back to camp and I'm, um, my girlfriend's, she's like, I'll never go up there again. They, you know, almost killed me this time. So we're not, me and the horse were, we're done. No more, no more up that side. She says she'll go up the front side because it feels more friendly when she goes up there. And she has this feeling. She, she under,

around animals, horses, different things. She, she can sense, you know, if they're happy or not. And she's saying on that backside, there's no happiness at all. So, so she'll do the front still.

I just say that because I'm trying to get you to go up someday with me. But anyways, uh, so, so we get back to camp. And I'm telling the story about what happened. And I'm, I'm, I'm discombobulated. I'm, I'm upset.

And I'm telling these guys, you know, the things almost killed us. You know, this sucked. I watched it, you know, push this tree over. And I, you know, one guy in the group, so, well, they can do that, you know, they can make that noise, you know, with their mouth or whatever. And I'm like, dude, I watched it push the tree over. I saw it do it. This ain't a noise out of something's mouth.

the tree almost hit my horse and and he's well you know who calm down calm down you know you want to walk back down to the river no i don't want to go down to the rivers no no you can wear my shirt here here's my shirt you can be you can ride my bike take my shirt you can be that guy i'll let you oh i'm not going to do that i'm like okay then i guess i guess we have an understanding so anyways i uh i was i was uh i was pretty upset i was just drop pretty bad. That one, that one, that one, that one made me feel like as probably as close to one of these things taking us out as, as ever. And I'm not so sure how pleasant these things are anymore. And, you know, it just kind of shook me up really bad. And, and so that night,

our friend my friend John he has this big gosh I think it's an Australian Shepherd great great big biggest one I've ever seen she's getting a little bit up in the age though and it was

we weren't sure because clouds started coming in we weren't sure if it's going to be wet or not and so I told them well why don't you sleep under our big awning that you know we have this 30 foot awning that comes off the side of our trailer so why don't you go ahead and sleep under that and And that way, if it rains, you'll be dry and, and, you know, everything will be good.

And he says, okay, that sounds great. So we tire out, you know, we eat food. Not really hearing any noises around camp. It's just dead silent all the rest of the night. So I have this eye ray. Um, this is a heat vision, uh, 50 millimeter. This thing, I, I, it, it, at a couple hundred yards, I can tell how many points are on a deer. It's extremely, extremely great lens.

Anyways, I put it on a tripod and I aim it right at our horses. I, I have yet to play video from that night off of that thing. Um, but we've seen weird things in the past at night that, that, that, that, picks up heat signatures that are just odd. And I guess what I'm getting at is I have that pointing out the side that the that the awnings on. I have it set up on a tripod recessed back in the trailer. So nobody would know it's there.

It's behind the window, but the window's open. That night, we go to sleep, wake up the next morning and I go out to unplug the generator and something pissed on the side of our trailer on the opposite side from where my friend was sleeping and I have pictures of it. It's at least a gallon of piss and it pissed like eight feet in the airs where the top marks are, but you can see it sprayed in one spot pretty much up and then at Niagara down and you can see it was yellow. I mean, you can see it was piss.

But it peed all over the side of the trailer. I guess it was showing us, you know, hey, got you while you're sleeping or whatever, but it marked us. And so anyways, so that was the end of 2024. And the takeaway on 2024 was now we don't go up that back trail. At least she won't with the horse. I'm trying to get up. I find somebody that can first of all hike that far out

and then go up the hill on top of that crossing three rivers. I'll take them up there. But I'm not going to go that far up. I'll go up a ways, but I just, it creeps me out now. too much. But I'll go up the front side, you know. And if somebody else has an e-bike, you know, a four, you know, a four-inch fat tire that can climb like mine does, I'll take them, you know, as far as they want to go. But so anyways, the takeaway from that was these things are not safe anymore and you really got to watch yourself around them.

You know, it was a sightseeing thing before. It kind of isn't that anymore now that this has. happened were just, and maybe, you know, its intention wasn't to have her go off the cliff, but it wasn't smart enough to know that that would happen if its intention was to not do that. And I just, you know, she's not going to risk her life to go up and see these things. So I don't, and I don't blame her. But that been in 2024. Real quick, I don't only have a few minutes.

In 2025, we went back. Not much happened. Just real quick. in 25 this last summer went up, stayed in a different place. I did have another siding. Went out at Twilight on a Friday.

Riding my bike back, I saw two looking through the brush at the meadow, which I've never seen them do that before. Their heads were like the size of watermelons and jet black. And at two in the morning that night, I heard a voice and it sounded

just like my friend or John. And I heard John's voice say a sentence It's crystal clear just right outside my window of our trailer. And next morning I asked John, hey, were you messing around it two in the morning? He's like, oh, no, I slept through last night. But so something mimicked his voice perfectly. I am perfect. And I thought it was John screwing around outside, but it wasn't.

So that's what happened in 25. So in 26, we're going back. Joe B. Lart will be there. Inviting Tom Powell, he may or may not go, depending on what he's up to. always invite Cliff Berrickman. He's kind of an old contact for me. And I try to get new people, but it's hard to find somebody that is open-minded enough to go up there to see these things.

And now I realize it's not a sightseen tour. It's not a game anymore. You're on a mission when you're up there. You got to be careful. It's, there's no telling them what these things will do. And like I said, I've seen them throw boulders up in trees and do different things, push trees over. It's, it's not real safe.

I just not. It's like after you have that 2024 situation, yeah, your entire mindset would have to be different. That it's kind of like there was a line that was crossed. you just got to be really aware of what could happen. Exactly. Exactly. It tripped me out. Now, if you'll have me back one more time, I do, I have some other,

scary for the lack of other words, encounters that I know of other people had. I'd love to have you back on. Definitely. I mean, the main question I have before we, before we end our time is, if you experience that in 2024, why, what's your main goal in going back now that? I mean, that's a really traumatic experience, almost seeing your girlfriend and her horse pretty much be done on the side of that hill. Yeah, I don't know. You know, why did I go back after 2019? It's just there's something about the mystery of these things that I just, you know, first of all, I like the camaraderie of my friends being with me when I go up there and we get caught up on current events, you know, Bigfoot events.

but that one I got caught on camera pushing the tree down. It was back behind two other trees and GoPro suck and it looks like a blob squatch. You could see the tree come down and stuff. And somebody with better video capability than me can probably get a much better picture. But, you know, I thought, wow, this beats the crap out of the Patterson Gimlin film. I mean, it's hands down. I was way closer. and because it wasn't, you know,

an 8mm film, it was a POS GoPro. It turns out all blobby, you know, it's just digital sucks. But, but I guess in the end, for some reason,

I want to get video confirmation, undeniable video confirmation. For me, if nothing else, and I, you know, I'm not trying to make a million bucks or nothing. I just, you know,

I haven't made any money to this point. We just race horses and this is a side hobby of us going up there. But yeah, I guess I just want, I just want video because the engineers I work with, they're like, oh, BS, BS. I'm like, really? Bring your brown pants. I'll take you someplace.

I'll take you someplace you've never seen before. And they're all shucks, no. It's such a wild, wild. The whole story is incredible when you look at the industry. entire thing after hearing all the experiences. It's just such an interesting account. And, yeah, Gary, we will definitely have you back on to go over what you've heard from other areas as well. And I'm excited to see what comes out of this area in the future as well. Thank you for hanging out with us one more time, Gary. I do appreciate it. My pleasure. Have you ever heard all the

accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oak Ridge, Oregon, and you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? This year, you can. If this is interesting to you, stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Saskatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous years reason number one I'll be one of the speakers it's going to be wild I'll probably

I'll say this there may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because let's just say sometimes it's uh well you just got to be there

we'll leave it that more about looking for Bigfoot in the Oak Ridge Woods now check this out you may know Jason Kenzie from his documentary series searching for Sasquatch

well this year you can not only go to the festival but you can also sign up for a trek deep in the wild forest outside of Oak Ridge with Jason Kenzie to the

Bigfoot spots to look for Bigfoot. There's only eight spots to sign up for this and yes this will also be filmed for the next chapter in his documentary series which is searching for Sasquatch. This is a once in a lifetime deal.

It's just, trust me, it's going to be a wild, wild experience. To get a ticket, head on over to Sasquatch Summerfest.com, and listeners can use the code BSP, like Bigfoot Society podcast, in order to get a two-day pass for the price of a one-day pass. So thanks to Priscilla for giving me that code so that you guys can, can get a little help with the cost there. Appreciate that, Priscilla. I hope to see you at the booth in Oak Ridge this year.

We can talk about your encounter. I was able to talk to so many people last year and the year before. It is an incredible time. You're not going to want to miss it. And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military,

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found evidence you're not allowed to report, if you're a pastor, a missionary, or someone on a spiritual retreat, and you saw something that shook your faith, or if you work in the shadows, CIA, NSA, or anything with clearance, and you've seen what the public hasn't, then I want to talk to you. Even if it's anonymous, you can reach me at Bigfoot Society at gmail.com. The world needs to hear what you've been forced to carry alone, and you're not alone. You've got the story. We've got the mic. See you in the woods.

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