Bigfoot Society - White Mountains of New Hampshire: Cloaking, Telepathy, and a Massive Forest Encounter

Episode Date: February 27, 2026

In this episode, we delve into the extraordinary experiences of Johnny from the White Mountains of New Hampshire, whose encounters with Bigfoot began after relocating to the rugged terrain within twen...ty miles of Mount Washington. With a lifelong background in psychic sensitivity and Indigenous Māori traditions, Johnny shares how subtle feelings of being watched along remote forestry roads slowly unfolded into something far more profound.Describing unexplained impacts on his vehicle, strange energy barriers at the edge of ski slopes, and fleeting glimpses of massive gray figures moving through dense timber, Johnny paints a vivid picture of activity deep in the New England wilderness. He recounts moments of apparent telepathic communication, predator-style cloaking effects, and a towering face-to-face sighting of a being estimated between nine and eleven feet tall.Johnny also explores the energetic nature of these forest beings, offering insight into their awareness, intelligence, and presence in the White Mountains region. His detailed testimony raises compelling questions about what may be operating in some of the most iconic landscapes of New Hampshire.Join us as we navigate Johnny’s remarkable experiences and the growing mystery surrounding Bigfoot in the Mount Washington area.🗣️ Share Your StoryHad a Bigfoot encounter or strange experience?Send it to bigfootsociety@gmail.com – your story might be featured on the show!🎥 Watch & Subscribe on YouTube🔴 Subscribe here → Bigfoot Society YouTube💬 Leave a comment & let us know your thoughts!📞 Leave a voicemail with your story → Speakpipe (Use multiple voicemails if needed)👥 Share this episode → Watch & Share🎧 More episodes → Podcast Playlist🌲 Recommended: New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters💥 Support the Show & Get Perks✅ Join the community on Supercast – Become a Member✅ Listen ad-free & early on YouTube – Join Here📱 Let’s ConnectInstagram: @bigfootsocietyTwitter: @bigfoot_societyTikTok: @bigfoot.society🧰 Tools & Partners I Use (Affiliate Links)These help support the show at no extra cost to you:Beam (Better Sleep): Try BeamWildgrain (Better Bread): Join HereSeed (Probiotics): Get SeedMedi-Share (Healthcare): Learn MoreLMNT (Electrolytes) Free Sample Pack with your first purchase! : Get LMNTOrganic and non-GMO groceries delivered for lesshttp://thrv.me/uarEhS🎙️ Podcasting Tools:Repurpose.io: Try ItDescript: Sign UpStreamyard: Start RecordingRiverside.fm: Try Riverside🎧 My Audio Interface: View on Amazon☕ Buy Me a Coffee – Support Here🛍️ Grab Some Merch – Shop on Etsy📬 Mailing Address:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072

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Starting point is 00:01:21 These are the voices of the people who've lived it. So settle in because today you'll hear another account that just might change the way you see the woods for. ever, so stay with us. All right, Bigfoot Society. Welcome back to another episode. This time, I've got the privilege of talking to a new friend from New Hampshire. His name is Johnny. Johnny specifically is background, and we'll be getting more into that for sure. But Johnny is a psychic that has also had Bigfoot encounters along the way, and we got connected. I believe you had watched a few episodes on the YouTube channel side of things, Johnny. Is that? That's correct, yes.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Okay, very good, very good. Well, welcome to the show. And how are you doing today, Johnny? I'm good, thank you, self. Oh, I'm doing good. We actually having, man, yesterday in Iowa, we had 65 degrees. We were loving it. People were wearing shorts in February. You can't, can't. Yeah, not here. Not here. We're still below freezing. Absolutely. Yeah, I know how New Hampshire and New England can get in the, in the wintertime. can get pretty chilly out there, but, you know, Johnny, we were talking before the recording started, and is it going to be an interesting episode, it's going to be a fun one, but you actually wanted to ask me a question before we got started.
Starting point is 00:02:44 I do, and there is a reason to this. You know, I've watched a lot of your podcast as well, of other people, you know, Ala, Fred, etc., etc., everything. I wanted to know what do you think the forest people are? Do you think that they are? Because there's two worlds here where people say that they are a spiritual being. And others say that they are just flesh and blood and they are part, you know, ape, etc. What do you actually think the truth is? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:03:24 No, it's a good question. And this is off of what I have experienced so far. I so from what I've experienced in places like Iowa in Oregon, I know it is some kind of physical creature because it can do things such as eat fruit and leave footprints, but it is also something that can really affect energy in certain areas and affect the way that certain people react in such a way where it might be able to even. unlock things that the person can do after being in the same area with it. It can also affect things like batteries or other energetic type things. So now this will change if I go back to Oregon or other places this year and I see one walk out of a portal or something. I mean, it's a thing where I'm learning along with listeners as I go, but that's really the easiest way I could probably see it right now. Perfect. So my intent is to add parts to the jigsaw puzzle, if you will.
Starting point is 00:04:39 So to segue into this, first thing I'm going to say is that it's a real shame that modern man from probably the 60s onward found it necessary to ignore the beliefs of indigenous peoples, Even early settlers that came to America who saw these beings, had interactions with these beings, and at some point the government decided to spin the narrative that everyone was crazy, that these things didn't exist so they could control what they didn't know. and so it's it's it really is it highlights the hubris of men sometimes when we try and tell a native people
Starting point is 00:05:31 who have dealt with these beings for thousands of years they're just seeing bears on their hind legs so how I got to this point is this when I was just a baby and this is a when I was just a baby I couldn't even move I
Starting point is 00:05:53 look sideways at the wall as far as I could turn my head and the face came out of the wall and was glowing white and it looked down at my brother and it looked at me and it smiled and as eyes seemed to envelop me and then I just saw
Starting point is 00:06:09 it looked like stars and I don't know if you're aware of astral travelling but the next thing you know is a wee baby I was astral travelling outside the house and along the street around the street lamps and I keep coming back in and out. And this happened every night for probably a year at least. So I already was experiencing different things.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Before I could even walk, I would see people in front of me bending down, making noises, and I was so frustrated because I knew I understood what they were saying, but I had to wait to remember. I remember having these thoughts. So I've had many, many, many lifetimes. I've been reincarnated many, many, many times. I remember a lot of them, or I should say a collage of pictures and experiences from each of them. I've had quite a few lifetimes here in America.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I have come back, I've come back this time to help and to also to complete certain karmic tasks that we do when we're basically fine-tuning what we do as a spirit on the other side. So growing up, I had affinity towards animals. If I was sitting inside my mother's house, I always knew when someone moved into the neighbourhood because their pets would walk in the back door and come up to me at the table. You know, cat, dog, you know, etc. then I'm also I'm also a na pui which is it's one of the largest tribes in New Zealand so I'm Māori I'm indigenous and I always knew about what we call nature spirits or the potu pay ari here which were to us is as common as you know you mention a dog or a cat but we We don't get to see them.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Some people do. So I always had this background of things, if you will, which already had me thinking outside the box. And like I just, my mind was always out there. My persona always activated around this box, like telepathy, et cetera. Like my mother used to be able to move objects when she was a child. So I used to, when I was 10, 12, I would experience with telepathy with female friends.
Starting point is 00:08:55 You know, I would think of colours or shapes and they would come back and then they would do the same thing to me. So we were always working with psychic energy. I also had, unfortunately, the misfortune to see darker entities, not just people who, who are caught between the veil and haven't passed over, but negative energies that have always been part of our reality, if you will. Some of these used to scare me at night and gave me PTSD for many years after that. So I guess what I'm saying is that I've always had these experiences
Starting point is 00:09:41 outside the box that many people operate in. and don't wish to look outside of. And I've always been told that I gave off, I exude my aura is very, it's a yellowy white and it exudes off me and is quite noticeable to people who can see oras, etc. And spirits. So spirits are drawn to me as well.
Starting point is 00:10:09 So as I got older, I would help people with, well you may say there's ghosts but people who heard hauntings in their in their homes etc and i would help get rid or help not get rid of it's bad tomb i would help pass these spirits over or even places i went to like i did a lot of gold mining looking for gold in the deserts in arizona and periodically you'd run into some of these people who are caught in a loop who are just they've passed over and there's caught in the sleep going round and around and around
Starting point is 00:10:48 and I would help them to move over so that's kind of my background if you will now when I move to New Hampshire let me just give you this one I've also surfed my entire life
Starting point is 00:11:11 and I've always known I've had runners with great white sharks I've always known when Great White Sharks were in the water because I could feel the predatory gaze upon me. And so did other surfing colleagues of mine. And it became so a matter of factual that you just kind of like go, oh, okay, shark in the water and we'd either get out or we'd just paddle a little bit into shallow water, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:40 That's the same thing I have felt in the forest. Only a couple of occasions. So when I came to New Hampshire, I'd ever think that Sasquatch was here. I had no idea, none. Another thing. I always thought that they were, you know, like people do, West Coast, Oregon, Washington, etc.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Now, when I did a lot of hiking, I do a lot of hiking, and when I first got here, I would hike up a road, it's just a forestry road. It's four miles up, so it's eight miles return. And I still love going up there late in the afternoons or early in the morning because I would never run into anybody else. And I started to feel like I was being watched.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Now, as I mentioned before, we have a belief in our in my indigenous world of the fairy people, the spirits, little fairy people. And I used to see glimpses of them back in New Zealand where I come from, if I was running through the bush with a surfboard heading for the beach. And they're like little white,
Starting point is 00:13:06 I would see little white silhouettes of a person maybe three feet tall if that. And I would see them flick very quickly behind trees or bushes. And the first time this happened to me, I was just like, oh, oh, wow, I just saw, I just saw Nature Spirit. Like, wow, cool. But just partial, you know, and this became so commonplace, you just take it for granted. It's like you see a dog walk across the radio.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Oh, yeah, I think I saw Nature Spirit. So when I came here, I thought it was the same thing. So I'm walking up this road and I felt like I was being watched and I thought, oh, these nature spirits here. But this feeling of being watched felt like someone had their hand on my shoulder. And I would keep turning around. Just look. Just look. Bigfoot never came into it.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Then I'm thinking, okay, I'm in New Hampshire. I'm in America, bears. It's a beer. I'm like, oh, crap, beer. So I'd carry and walking along going, hey bear, hey bear. And then I started to hear the rustling following me. Well, hey bear, hey bear.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Now, I walked this particular forest road quite often I would hike it. Because it's up. It goes up quite a ways steep. So I started carrying a handgun on the front of my chest, in a chest harness. And I was going up one day. and I heard the rustling again
Starting point is 00:14:51 and I thought, it's a bear. So I turned and as soon as I put my hand on the pistol I felt this focused energy like, whoa, what are you doing? And I stopped. And it really, it caused two more because I was like, what was that? You know, because the psychic side
Starting point is 00:15:19 me, I feel different energies from things. So it was like, it was almost like you said to me, Johnny, what are you doing? Oh, oh, what, Jeremiah? Oh, sorry. Nothing. It was like that. So I thought, okay, all right, so I kept going, and the rustling had stopped, and I went up, came back down. About a week later, I was up there, and there's a little stream there, and I walked over to the stream, and when I hike, I'm in a bit of a, not say outside myself, I just kind of let my mind wander. I've always done this. So much so that if someone walked up behind me,
Starting point is 00:16:01 I'd probably leave six feet, because my mind is just kind of out there. I'm just thinking. And I stopped by the stream, and I looked up towards this ridge, and I said out loud, I said, oh, so they come down here and come across the stream, and then they go, oh, probably up that way.
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Starting point is 00:16:46 Visit privacy.ca.gov slash drop to learn more. And I caught myself because I was, who's they? Like I don't know where that thought came from, right? I didn't know where it came from. So I continued up the road. I got a little further up and there was, were trees coming close to the road. And what popped into my head was ambush spot, ambush, ambush, ambush, ambush. and I kind of went ooh
Starting point is 00:17:21 so I skirted to the other side of the road as far as I could and walked past but the funny thing was I got the pictures of deer in my head and I'm like all right so maybe something grabbed deer here so it is a bear it's a bear and I turned and looked as I went past these bushes but instead of looking at our level I looked up
Starting point is 00:17:46 and I don't know why I looked up and I expected to see movement up here and not at the five or six foot level. And that also threw me as well. So I was very perplexed. And when I was back down at the car, I was kind of thinking, what am I picking up? This is really, really weird.
Starting point is 00:18:11 But it felt like I was being guided, if you will, guided, if that's word. So still I didn't think about Bigfoot. I went to a different area because this place had started to spook me just a little bit, just these weird feelings, and I keep thinking there must be a lot of beer up there that are coming down through the bushes, which is why I'm getting spooked. So I went to this other place, and I thought, this is nice. So I start walking around this fire road, and it went over an old wooden bridge,
Starting point is 00:18:57 and it's a little stream, and I looked up it. And something I do is I push my mind out. When I'm, I've always done this. It's basically like scanning with my head, with the energy in my head, I push it out, and I see if I touch something. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's something I've always done.
Starting point is 00:19:21 I was there, I guess it comes maybe from surfing, from scanning the water, the area, looking for a threat that you can't see because it's underneath the water. And so I was like, okay, looking up the stream, I thought, wonder what's up there? And I was just pushing my head out and I hit something. And it's almost like your mind touches, like my mug, your mind just goes plop. And I went, it wasn't just the fact I felt something. I felt something recoil, which means that it felt my probing with my mind. And that really threw me because I went, what is that?
Starting point is 00:20:10 And I didn't hear anything else. You know, I didn't see anything, do you hear any noises? carried on down down this road for about a mile came back up there's nothing following me I walked past the same spot but now the spot it had a feeling like I was being watched not the feelings that we hear about on other people who have had where it was like her this was just a very intent like hmm what are you like this I hopped in my Jeep and I had I had that tingling up the back of my neck and down my spine. And by now I'm just going, you know, my spider senses are just going off.
Starting point is 00:20:57 And I'm like, what is here? I start to drive away. I go around two corners. And I'm thinking, wonder what it is. And then my ears went funky, almost like I was underwater. There was pressure in my car. And something went, boom, against the back of the Jeep. And the Jeep rocked like this.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And I went, excuse the French, and pulled over and drove them to some branches on the right hand side. Like they were just down on the road. And of course, you know, Darwin Award winner here, I got out, which is what you do. I got out and I looked around. and the energy was dissipating but I felt something watching me down a bank and I felt something watching me from up on a bank in the trees to my left.
Starting point is 00:21:59 And so I just, I apologize to whatever it was that was here because I didn't know what it was. I thought maybe it's, maybe it's just like really negative spirits that have more energy than I realize, et cetera, et cetera. Apologized profusely, got back into my Jeep
Starting point is 00:22:17 and drove off and it wasn't until I got onto the road that the thought popped in my head and I went I can remember sitting driving going Is there Sasquatch here? Just like that it just went pop in my head And I drove down and the next day I spoke to a friend of mine and I said Hey this is a really weird question they were like what
Starting point is 00:22:42 I said I see you know like like bigfoot here in New Hampshire and they looked at me were like I've heard I've heard there could be and I just went so that was when
Starting point is 00:23:01 the penny dropped from a great height and I realized they were here then I hiked up a couple of ski slopes after this now
Starting point is 00:23:18 in a high In hindsight, I didn't do it off my own volition. I think I was asked to come up, to come closer so they get a better look at me. Like I said, I give off this energy, which attracts things. And so I went hiking off up the ski slope and I could feel eyes on me as I was walking up. So I'm walking on going, hey bear, hey bear, hey bear, hey bear. but apparently I thought there were bears everywhere. But I was still getting this nagging.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Maybe there is Bigfoot here. And I walked right up the back, as far as you go, at the very top of this lift, right against the bush. And there's a ridge that runs up, which you'd have to bush where to get to. And when I hike in New Zealand, that's something that I would do. never used trails you just bushwhack
Starting point is 00:24:20 and I walked up to the trees and it's quite thick you know and I kind of like I wonder what's in here so I pulled some branches across and I went woo and it was a wall of energy that ran along these trees at this very at the very top of this mountain where everything stopped where the lift stop everything you couldn't go any further
Starting point is 00:24:49 and it felt sticky, I could feel it, and I backed away, and I felt like, I could feel like reverberations, like it, like you, you shake something like rubber, and it starts wobbling away somewhere. And I stood there like going, what the? And what I got in my head was, I think I just alluded something. So I started to get slightly creeped out and because all these, over the last couple of weeks, a couple of months, all these different things happening are really starting to get me a little,
Starting point is 00:25:35 not say jittery, but I was kind of like, okay, this is all very different. So I start walking back down the trail and I spun around because I felt like something was coming towards me. And for a brief second, I thought I saw a grey gorilla because, you know, guerrillas run, they run
Starting point is 00:25:59 on all fours, but with a head up like this, barreling towards me. And I went, like, I shook my head and shut my eyes and opened it again and it was gone. And I remember thinking, is that some kind of a bear? I mean, I wasn't an expert. bears but it just but it was gone and I was like what was that and then I could feel the eyes on me
Starting point is 00:26:28 I continued down before the the ski trail starts to drop and I felt it again I spun around again and I saw this glimpse again and it was gone and I'm thinking it looks like a gorilla just that that whole thing but I but there was a funny it's only in hindsight remember like there was a funny gait to it. It looked a little wonky, if you will. It looked kind of like this head up like this, but it was kind of like, it looked strange, but it was moving quick. So by now I'm really starting to think, okay, there is something up here and it's not a bear. And things really progressed from there. Any questions you wish to ask me?
Starting point is 00:27:27 Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I'm still a big, so you grew up in New Zealand not to go too far back. Yes. I've talked to at least one individual from there. And can you share the, because it sounds like the area that you grew up in was pretty wild. Can you share the general area where the, that was in New Zealand?
Starting point is 00:27:54 In the west coast of Auckland, which is, which is all the heavy, all the, the, the, the black sand beaches, it's a rugged coast. If you want to get anywhere, if you want to serve for anywhere, you paddle around headlands to get to certain places back then. There was nothing. If you got in trouble, if you got eaten, no one's here to save you, you know, it's, yeah. I was going to guess, because I was, I was, like, I was. like it's probably the island that has Auckland in it and because all the bigfoot stuff I've
Starting point is 00:28:28 heard of is like north of Auckland or like in that peninsula that's to the west of Auckland and then you know or to the east of Auckland I should say but yeah that area there there's uh it's Mount uh Mount Mayhew is that okay yeah yeah yeah that's where some really interesting humanoid type things are uh Bigfoot type things New Hampshire. is such an interesting area. I mean, I get a lot of reports from, I mean, Northern New Hampshire, White Mountains,
Starting point is 00:29:01 but even down in the southeast, and it's almost like there's a line or a trail that goes from northern New Hampshire up by, like, Quebec, and it just kind of goes all the way down, but it sticks to the east side. At least the sightings. And if you can't share
Starting point is 00:29:22 the areas where you're having things happen, that is no problem. I totally want to respect that as well. I'm going to say it's within a 20 mile diameter of Mount Washington. Okay. That makes sense. Absolutely. Another question I wanted to ask is, and this might be a total, just, we can talk about it, but it will just rabbit trail us like crazy. but you said that sometimes you get a message to go somewhere. How do you usually receive that? So it's back then when this happened, when I didn't realize that I'd gone, why I'd gone, I just thought I was just going hiking up the ski trail. But it's only when I'm sitting back down and thinking about the events of the day,
Starting point is 00:30:13 how I felt, I realized that it was more of a, come up here, come up here. So one thing I used to do when I was 14 or 15 with lady friends, I'd tell them to go in another room, and then I would mentally think at them and tell them to come to me. And they would say they feel it in the center of the head right here like they're being pulled, like there is a string and I'm pulling it. Okay? We can all do this, Jeremiah. We can all do this.
Starting point is 00:30:47 This is just things that we have. have lost. But we haven't lost it, we just haven't learned to educate ourselves with these kind of things. So it's the same kind of principle. When they, if they, like telepathy, when they want to tell me something, some people get, we'll hear words. I'll hear words usually at night. I'll hear my name called when it's 2 a.m. in the morning and I'm like, go. I go away, go away, I'm sleeping. But I'll get words that will be printed across my vision inside behind my eyes,
Starting point is 00:31:30 and it will be like very clear, laser-edged Times New Roman. You know, like, for instance, I had one where they said, what are you doing here? And it just goes, but that's just another form of telepathy for whatever works. See, for you, it might not work for you.
Starting point is 00:31:52 For you, you may need to have pictures, et cetera. But I'll also get pictures as well. Like I was walking a spot, and one of the forest people, all of a sudden I get a shaggy, shaggy sort of half face and a shoulder pops into my head right here, and I know that right over here at my 11 o'clock,
Starting point is 00:32:18 is where he is. He's standing in the brush. So, again, to me, this is just normal. I just run with it. I've, like, I've had one that said to me, wait, and I got in front of my face again, wait. But it was as winter was just starting, and I said, no, I'm cold and I'm not covered in here. And I walked back to my Jeep, got in my Jeep, I need to drive half a mile. when I got back to where I was going, there's a little shed and I hopped out and something went bam on top of the shed. Now there's no wind. There's no wind. And so I'm like, and the worst thing that people can do
Starting point is 00:33:10 is to try and fob that off as something else because all you're doing is hand, all the people, a person is doing is handicapping their ability to listen and to take an information. which they want you to do. So this thing went bam, and I was like, okay, I just said hello to whatever was out. They said, hello, my Jeep. And then wind kind of whipping up around behind me,
Starting point is 00:33:38 and it was like swirling so hard, and I kind of froze, and I could feel something standing right behind me. And all I did was I'm still facing my car, I went, hello, and I turned around, and there was just some massive leaves going around around the circle, and then all of a sudden it just went plop and gone. Wow. And I felt something move away.
Starting point is 00:34:04 But they'll do that to you because they want, if they're interested in a person or someone who they find to be different than all the others, they'll do little things to get you interested, to have. help and also to see whether or not you are prepared to understand what they can actually do. Because what really irks them is when people call them apes or gorillas or, you know, et cetera, et cetera. That really does irk them. So when they find someone who they can show certain little other things like shape shifting, et cetera, they'll do this. I've had one and here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm poking too far ahead. You know, I've had one come up through me through thick trees, sick, probably two, three, some four inches thick, super thick, that we have to do this to go through, right? Come straight at me from about 40 feet away and come right up next to me in a straight line.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Now I wasn't looking but I heard him coming but the thing was he made the noises so I knew he was coming because they don't have to and he came right up next to me and he was just beyond arm's reach
Starting point is 00:35:40 but he was in the full predator the full predator thingy which isn't the swirly one that you see in the movies it's more like a more like a it's more like a scrumpled cellophane type
Starting point is 00:35:57 look if you will like cellophane it's kind of square bits like this it's kind of like a scrumpled cellophane but you can see through it but when you see through it it looks kind of
Starting point is 00:36:08 wonky like like you know if there's a straight tree you see part of the trees here in the other bit goes like this it's like there so he he came through these trees without having to move anything, you know, and that was done to see what I would try and make of it,
Starting point is 00:36:31 because I know that when I, when I, when these kind of things happen and I stop and I think, I'm like, okay, how do they do that? And I think, I can feel them watching and listening, you're waiting to see what my reaction is. They're the most gorgeous people, but they're really do, and I just want to make it clear that you don't have to be psychic or use your psychic abilities or be aware of them for this to happen. A person just needs to be prepared to accept things that they normally wouldn't or at least entertain the thought that there are different things around them. That is extremely interesting to me. So is another way of saying, So, okay, here's a thing that I've noticed so far.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yep. Where it is the people that go into this with certain expectations or things that they have just shut down. They've been like, this will never happen in this way because it's not how it works. Those people never have encounters or any interactions of any kind. And so is that kind of another way of looking at it? Yeah. So, so I'd couple of them get very, like this, that particular one. Now here's the, here's the kicker for that particular instance, was I'd a dodgy ankle.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So I wasn't moving too well. I was laying on a ski pole. And I saw the pixelation. and I thought huh so and I went to say Bigfoot and I know they don't particularly like that I would say Bigfoot
Starting point is 00:38:29 then I caught myself and I went forest people forest people on Q I looked down it's like pulling up your jeans pant leg the pixelation went up to the knee and all I saw was long
Starting point is 00:38:45 here a reddy reddy brown here, the ankles and a big, long, flat foot. All I got was kind of like an impression of, no, you were going to say big foot. Well, there's a big foot for you. And I could see the dark nails, the toenails were black. The tops of the feet were like, if you got very bodey hands, the bones went all the way down,
Starting point is 00:39:18 like they were so, you could tell that the foot is used to severe manipulation, if you will. You could tell, just the way the bone structure was. Now, this was a kind of a wet, muddy day. His foot went down and it was a big kind of a clay, wet clay spot and it slid. no sound and it looked like his foot was actually an inch or so above
Starting point is 00:39:55 the actual dirt that it slipped on and as I was watching and then everything with Drew and was gone and I didn't hear him take off but I turned around nothing there gone just gone no noise nothing he's actually a century
Starting point is 00:40:13 he's a century and he's always in this one particular place so it made me think I okay let me put this another way when they they have the ability to when you and I are not here Jeremiah when we're we've passed over and we're waiting to be reborn again we are basically just a ball of light
Starting point is 00:40:43 we can take a form that we used to, like a human form, etc. But we really are just balls of energy. They can do that in the now. And they can move through trees. You'll see their outline, but it's not really there. They are. Hold on. Hold the phone.
Starting point is 00:41:12 Okay. So you're saying you've actually heard. of that before where like you can see the outline of them in trees. I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Tell me more about that, please. So I was seeing where, where you, and this is what got me because, you know, when you're bushwecking, you're doing this.
Starting point is 00:41:33 You're doing this. And the way I grew up, you, you learned to walk through trees and stuff very quietly, move brushes aside and so you're not making noise. It's just what I do. and go crashing through. And I've seen one come across rapidly in front of me. And these are sentries. I know the area that they're in.
Starting point is 00:41:56 And I've seen just the outline, just almost like if you had a torch behind them, you see the outline the moving. You see the arms swing in the legs, etc. But there's no clearing there. It's thick, thick trees, and they just go straight through. Now, now that's, and what I got from them was, and when I say when I get information from them, if I push something out to say one of the elders,
Starting point is 00:42:35 and I've met several of the elders, I get impressions back. And impressions are just a form of teleprosions. and you just have to trust, you know, your sixth sense, when you know something's wrong and you think, ah, I don't know if I should do that and sure enough something happens. You're trusting your psychic side of you. Same thing here. Once you trust the impressions that you're getting, they come thick and fast because they're
Starting point is 00:43:05 trying to find a way of communicating with you, all right? But what I got was that that's why they can move. so rapidly through thick forested places because they just basically go they turn it back into a ball of energy but they have that physical that physical looking outline an outlier if you will they get through to where they want to go then they just basically solidify again wow that that is really really wild stuff johnny yeah that's that that's what i said this is going to be a little a little different so i need to share something with you and you may have heard this already.
Starting point is 00:43:45 And listeners, I know you've probably heard it, but I'm going to share it again. It's because it's relevant. So the first time I went out to Oregon two years ago, and I was out there near Oak Ridge, Willamette National Forest. It's a long story. I had to go to the hospital because of my legs got messed up, either an infection or something else. And then I had to cancel a lot of interviews last day.
Starting point is 00:44:12 and then I was very kind of discouraged and I was like, you know what, I'm just going to go for a ride around the reservoir south of town where there's been a lot of activity, have a burger, whatever. And I remember driving by a pine tree that was covered in vines. Before I had driven by this,
Starting point is 00:44:34 an individual at the festival had been like, hey, if you want to have a sighting, just say in your mind, Bigfoot, I'm ready to see you. You know, if you're ready, just say something like that. I'm like, okay, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:46 Forget it. I'm just going to do it. You know, I don't care anymore. So I said that as half a second later, I drove by a pine tree that was covered with vines. And there was what looked like a silhouette of an eight foot tall Sasquatch. Yep. That was there for a second and then it disappeared. And I was like, holy mackerel, I'm either going insane or I just saw something.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Or like, I had a fever at the time or it was something like, You know. It was weird. You, you put it out there. They are just, they are so used to dealing with people who are negative, people who want to hurt them, people who are doing all the wrong sorts of things. When they know that you're interested, they're just waiting for a chance for that person to go, you know, like you just said, like, you know what? I believe, I'd like to see you guys. And bang.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Instead of running around the bush, banging on trees with a baseball bat, hooting and hollering, which, by the way, that is their entertainment. They think that's just hilarious. That's them watching TV. You know, that is when people do see things when they are ready. I don't know if you've heard of saying, when you're ready, they'll come to you. you don't have to go and find them I had
Starting point is 00:46:20 there's one who I'm very fond of I pulled up at this one particular area and I said something in my language out to the trees basically a greeting and an understanding of everything that they are and wishing them a blessing
Starting point is 00:46:42 because there are very religious people too by the way very religious they believe in God or the source and you know I just said I said blah blah blah blah and I looked down and I looked up and here's a kicker
Starting point is 00:46:59 so at the time and this is something I want to raise later to at the time I was suffering from a pituitary tumour a large one the size of a small avocado that was right back in here under any of my brain yeah I'm going to bring it up up later, especially with guards,
Starting point is 00:47:18 late Jeff Muldron, may you rest in peace. And I had said when I was talking, I said, listen, it's getting late in the day. I know you're here. I can't see you, but I said, if you did, you'd have to step out and be open because I won't be able to see you against the darker trees,
Starting point is 00:47:40 etc. You'll be blurry. So anyway, so I finished this, and I'm blah, blah, blah. I'm looking down and thought, all right, I look up and he was standing there. And he is between, I can say, nine and eleven feet tall, and he's massive. He would be, he's well over two tons. He, his legs are like tree trunks. His arms are long, he's just, it's hard to, it's hard to, when you say someone, he's huge,
Starting point is 00:48:13 It's hard to tell someone just how big. But his one leg was as wide as my body. Like he's massive, absolutely massive. But he had this grin on his face. Like, kind of scrunched up, like he just going, like this was smirk. But none of what I got back from him. Like he was standing stock still.
Starting point is 00:48:39 And he didn't even flinched because I got, he didn't. want to scare me so he stood as perfectly still as he could with no other energy coming off him just so I could look at him. I had enough time to go, oh, M.G. And I looked down like, am I seeing things? I looked up. He was gone. Boom. But when he was there, he had a black line about 14 inches wide a shimmering black outline all the way around his shoulders up over his head and down the other side so he stood out like a sore thumb against the darker trees and it shimmered and I know he did that he was able to do that so that I could see him bed because I'd said that my eyesight wasn't the
Starting point is 00:49:36 greatest of that time that these are some of things I've dealt with and these are some of things I've dealt with and these or why there's I get this there is I won't even tell you about the human ones just yet there are
Starting point is 00:49:56 there are there's those who are like want to be the capitalists they want to they're like capital they want to integrate into society they want to they use all their energy
Starting point is 00:50:11 or a lot of it. Then there are those who have a hierarchical structure which wants to make sure that all those below them don't have access to the tools that they are born with that they can develop. And there's a control base here. There's still control, right? So where I am in the White Mountains,
Starting point is 00:50:34 this is like, I call it a fortress. This whole area is a fortress. It's like a military base and if we if we've because people view them as being solitary or small family groups care of the small family groups but there's a ton of them
Starting point is 00:50:51 and there are centuries everywhere everywhere like just just like humans if you walk up any trail there's one watching you right you go further on up there'll be another one watching you and they'll
Starting point is 00:51:06 they don't necessarily have to have eyes on you to know where you are there is you know I told you earlier on about how how I can push out my energy and I could I touch something and I went ooh what was that they do the same thing
Starting point is 00:51:23 but on a larger larger scale that's very hard to comprehend they can just stand there like this surveying the area and they just sweep they just push this energy out and just sweep like this
Starting point is 00:51:38 you take that you take an where they can see what you're, it's better than, better than a hawkron eagles. You know, it's, they always know where people are. That's why I always, I always laugh when I've seen somebody's, these, you know, people are running off
Starting point is 00:51:55 around in the bush, et cetera, you know, making noises, et cetera, and, you know, trying, trying to find them. They're being, they're being trailed all the time by the centuries, you know. Wow. So anyway, so this particular one, he showed how he has control of energy around him.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Now, not too long after this, and I'd had a lot of this going on when I'd be out hiking. That's when I got diagnosed with a large tumor, right, and I left my brain up behind here. and I'd heard when I started kind of researching
Starting point is 00:52:46 looking into the subject of them being out this way I can't remember where I saw I saw something where some researchers in the past had passed away or had pituitary tumours
Starting point is 00:53:00 because there is an energy that that Sasquatch give off that can affect growth So I found this very interesting And after I had mine removed Activity where I was going to Stopped
Starting point is 00:53:19 And I had a distinct impression That they weren't allowed to come near me Where I'd been going I could feel it Then when I saw You know I saw that Jeff Melchamond passed away And what he passed away from and I went, ha ha.
Starting point is 00:53:43 So when they are focusing, when they are focusing energy on, say, like, people, people, researchers who are pushing into areas, which they really shouldn't be going into because it's their, it's their backyards, basically.
Starting point is 00:54:03 And they're focusing on them. They're pushing up energy, which is way beyond our keen of understanding and some of the energy can be damaging. It can be damaged. Think of it like a cell phone tower. You're not going to go and have a picnic 20 feet from a humongous cell phone tower,
Starting point is 00:54:26 not unless you want a kid to hear again or your wife wants to have a baby. It's the exact same principle. They can give off a frequency and energy which can be very damaging. But those that know how to use it can also dial it back so that people like Allah, right? So, Alah has, she has a beautiful relationship with the forest people.
Starting point is 00:54:54 That's example. Sorry, real quick. I need to throw it in just so that it's, so it is publicly documented that Dr. Meldrum did pass away from brain cancer, but we're not saying that it's a certain type of brain cancer that it was just documented. So I just want to throw that in there real quick, but please continue. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:16 So it's just like, like Allah has a relationship, and I'm sure there are other people that have close relationships with, with family groups, et cetera, and they aren't affected. They aren't affected. So there is, I've met several of the elders. and what I get is that if they're, like I said, if they're watching people who, as far as they're concerned, have no business looking at their structures or pulling at things
Starting point is 00:55:51 or trying to unwind things because it's like having, you've got a beautiful backyard with your barbecue, your swing set for your kids, and all of a sudden you've got the neighbors come over your fence, they're playing on your swing set, they're pulling grills out of your barbecue and looking at it, et cetera, and that, and you're standing in your window going,
Starting point is 00:56:11 what the... It's the same thing. Now you've left, these people left all their, their smell, their DNA, all over all this stuff. And, of course, the forest people are just like, well, thanks, thanks for ruining that.
Starting point is 00:56:28 And they get a real pickle. And they can, they, when they get a real pickle, a pickle with something or someone, it's hard for them to get rid of it. So, yeah, let's see. That's something that we shouldn't do. It is a topic that's very near to me as well, just because I, when I was very very young, I had actually a brain tumor as well.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Really? To have removed. I was one of the first pediatric cancer cases in the 80s where they actually were successful. I mean, they were just literally throwing darts at a wall and figuring out how to do it. And, yeah, it was non-Hodgkins lymphoma. So I've always, it's a pattern that I've noticed. I mean, there are multiple individuals. You can, listeners can look this up that have had cancer.
Starting point is 00:57:33 very interesting pattern. One of the ones I see where there's, you know, a lot of researchers maybe having cancer, but also I've noticed a lot of, um, uh, witnesses have, uh, some of them have had, um, some kind of traumatic, uh, head injury as well. Yep. Um, you've noticed that as well. Okay. Yeah. So what, what I, since that, what I've, I've said to, um, the others. So they're there are a couple of elders. These are, they're ancient. I don't care what people, the timelines that they put on, people say they live to.
Starting point is 00:58:16 These are ancient beings, ancient, ancient beings. And I just put it out there. I just said, listen, this is how it's going to be. I said, I enjoy, they come to me they like coming to me because they like feeling the energy there's something about my energy
Starting point is 00:58:43 that attracts them which they like they like not just them but other forest people and I said to these these elders I put it out there I said listen I want to keep doing this like Jeremiah I don't go out into the
Starting point is 00:59:03 the trees, the forest looking for them, I don't have to. And then to me, this is just my opinion. I think it's rude. I think it's rude. I don't mind walking around trails, but I'm not going to go off into the trees and bushwhacking to find them. I just let them come to me. And so I just say, listen, I don't mind you or your followers, etc.,
Starting point is 00:59:31 coming close to me to feel the energy etc that flows through me all right I said but I said you have to they have to protect me from the particular frequencies that can harm me because I'm fragile
Starting point is 00:59:48 and I said I said and I know that they can do it they know how to do it but because there can be a little heavy handed etc by the time they try and turn it off it's too late the damage is done for us to humus because we're very that part of our brain the pituitary area yeah it's um yeah it mine was like said mine was the size of small avocado if you're looking at me it looked like i have an avocado in front of my face here um and luckily it came out in one piece out through they came up through the
Starting point is 01:00:27 through the nostril came out one big thing basically. So things have, from that aspect, things have changed. I felt a change. Now, they can visit me whenever, and they can visit, are you familiar with remote viewing? I've heard of it, yeah. Okay, remote viewing is something that I used to do. I still do
Starting point is 01:00:58 I saw Delhi with it I it's basically you push your mind out and you go to a certain place and you can the military uses it
Starting point is 01:01:13 Russia does it American military uses it so it's nothing new they can do it makes us look like stumbling babies in the sand a pit their version of it is
Starting point is 01:01:29 this is why I laugh when I shouldn't say laugh but when I see people around there are okay we're going to do this tomorrow they're planning it all out in a room somewhere and they have no idea that looming over them watching them through the veil if you will
Starting point is 01:01:44 are usually the elders watching and listening to everything that those people are going to be doing the next day the secret's already out they already know I'll give you an example I was when I first moved here once I realized that they were here
Starting point is 01:02:06 I did the same thing I try to remote view a particular area about three or four miles from where I am and it's like it's like you're flying over your mind is flying over trees I do it with my eyes close. It's like you're flying over trees. And all of a sudden you just get pulled down to something.
Starting point is 01:02:30 And I went scooting through trees. And all of a sudden there was a shape there. And I thought, wow, forest person. And this is 10 o'clock at night. Now, it was looking from, so this side, it turned around and looked straight at me. And I thought, it's just, it's looking around. It doesn't know I'm there.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And then it went like this. And I backed back and that went like this. So it could see my energy where I was, where I'd projected myself through remote viewing. And at the time, I stopped, like I opened my eyes and went, whoa. But the last thing I saw was it looked pissed. It looked seriously pissed. Like I just walked into its, into its,
Starting point is 01:03:22 into its back door into its house. I kind of, oh wow, okay, I won't do that again. The next night, I heard this, I was up at 1am, I heard what I thought was someone doing burnouts, like a high frequency, like a screeching sound or like a big rusty wheel screeching like this. It was faint, but I heard it getting closer, in closer, and closer. and I was like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:03:57 And I walked out onto my balcony, and then I thought, it is getting close. And I thought there was someone doing, it sounded like someone doing a burnout on a motorcycle or a car. Then I thought, maybe it's like some big, someone's doing something using big mechanical wheels or something
Starting point is 01:04:14 or steel, that's what sounded like. It doesn't sound like a screaming woman, although I could see a correlation there somehow. It got loud. and then it stopped. And I was like, what the hell? I was standing on the balcony, and it's dark, and then it started up, and it was behind where I live,
Starting point is 01:04:34 and it went way up, and I, by now, I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, and then it went up high, and then it came down, and this is the only time it did it came down, and it turned into this humongous roar, and I felt it through my chest, through my head, everything, like someone was shaking me, And I went, whoa. And I actually crouched. I found I had actually physically crouched down a bit
Starting point is 01:05:00 because I thought something was coming through the wall. And they just went dead quiet. And that was it. And it was who I had bothered, decided to come and pay me a visit. But here's the thing. It followed a trail of energy breadcrumbs, if you will. How the hell do you do that?
Starting point is 01:05:24 It followed. It's the only explanation I can have is it knew exactly where I had originated from this psychic stream and followed it all the way back again. Questions? And it is, it really makes you wonder, one, if we'll ever have the answers to these questions. But it's like, the more I talk to people, there are some. really weird patterns coming out. Oh, yeah. So, so, so weird.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Oh, man, I don't know. I really, I just, I just don't know. But, I mean, the way that you're talking about how you're asking that pretty much they don't hurt us, I mean, that's pretty incredible. That's a new, new one for me, but I think definitely worth, worth considering. They manipulate, they are masters of manipulating energy. That is all they, they really are. If you look at them, if you stand back and go, this here is an energy creature.
Starting point is 01:06:47 It's not flesh and blood. It can turn into flesh and blood, but is effectively an energy being that can manipulate into different things. I've seen them in the form of crows, ravens, chip monks, squirrels and I've also those are the stories
Starting point is 01:07:08 I can tell you another point time if you want and I've also dealt with them when they were in human form as well and that's very entertaining and I have seen one turn into a deer so
Starting point is 01:07:19 it's yeah they find me I don't want to sound like I'm blowing my own trumpet or anything it's just that I think the way that I have approached
Starting point is 01:07:33 it and just let everything just happen and just take it for, not take it for granted, but just take it, accept everything that happens even no matter how weird it is, it's like they just up the ante even more. Like, okay, you think that was cool? Check this out. And that's kind of what it's like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I'm at the point where...
Starting point is 01:07:59 Can you have me committed? No, no, stuff is, stuff is. starting to happen when I go out to areas, but it's like you have to go through that final barrier. I mean, there was, there was a point in Oregon where, like, I was out in the woods and I was like, hey, if there's anything here, make a noise. And like, I got wood knocks back within a second. Yep. And then I try it again. And it was like, whatever it was was right. It was like 20 feet out in the woods. And I just, I just couldn't do it. I was like, I cannot walk into those woods. And I, turned around and went back to the group and like every day I'm like what had happened if I had
Starting point is 01:08:38 just gone out there and it's crazy man all you all I would say to people all you all they have to do is you stand you talk to the forest because they're there you tell them that you're you mean no harm you believe that they're real you have great respect for them etc etc you'd love to meet them or see them or if they would like to interact with you, please feel free. And you just says, I'm here, just come. I'm open for anything. And you just put it out there because they will, because they are very, very curious, very curious. And like I said, they are more curious if us little wee people behave more like them
Starting point is 01:09:27 and are more accepting of what they do. because we're expecting them to accept what we do and they get right up their goat. That's what we do. We expect them to behave like we think they should and they just go like seriously? No. My goodness, John. This is an incredible conversation. We definitely have to stay in touch, I would think.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But I just want to say thank you so much for coming on the show and sharing not only some encounters. that you've had, but also some really interesting ways to think about this. And I think this is one of those that people could listen to more than once and really learn some interesting things. You're welcome. But thank you for coming on. But there's going to probably be individuals that are curious if they can ask you a question or anything like that. How would you like to handle that? yeah i'd like yeah i mean if if if if they're researchers yes i'd rather deal with researchers um because if it's every every every other person then then you might get a lot of people um
Starting point is 01:10:52 and i i dealt with that kind of thing when i was helping to clear people's homes from spirits etc it was great to begin with but in the end it burned me out i just got burnt out dealing with people so that's why i said listen yeah i didn't mind but i was like to keep it to like just some research. If they want to know something or or get my take on something, then yeah, I'm be happy to do so. Fantastic. We can keep that in mind. Tell you this, mate, though, when you see them in a human form, that's a trip.
Starting point is 01:11:23 That's a trip. That's a real trip. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. We will definitely keep in touch and check in with you at a later time, I think, because that alone is probably a conversation in itself. with human form Sasquatch. But Johnny, thank you so much for coming on and take care of yourself.
Starting point is 01:11:44 Be safe out there and we will definitely keep in touch for the future. Thank you. You too, Jeremiah. Good to talk to you, man. Take it easy. Have you ever heard all the accounts of Bigfoot activity around Oakridge, Oregon? And you think to yourself, man, I would love to get out in those woods and experience it for myself. Well, guess what? this year you can. If this is interesting to you,
Starting point is 01:12:09 stay tuned because it's pretty cool. Sasquatch Summerfest is coming up July 10th through the 11th, 2026. It's going to be even better than the previous year's reason number one. I'll be one of the speakers. It's going to be wild. I'll probably, I'll say this.
Starting point is 01:12:29 There may be stuff you haven't heard anywhere else because, let's just say sometimes it's uh well you just got to be there we'll leave it that more about looking for bigfoot in the Oak Ridge Woods now check this out you may know Jason Kenzie from
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Starting point is 01:14:11 And I'll see you there. Before we wrap this episode, I want to say something directly to a very specific group of listeners. If you're in the military, any branch or forces, and if you've seen something that no one can explain, or if you're a national park ranger or forestry worker who's been told to stay quiet, if you're a pilot who's seen something strange down on the same. the ground or if you're with the FBI a federal agency or working intelligence and you stumbled upon something you're not allowed to talk about and if you're a firefighter paramedic or search and rescue responder who's heard screams or found tracks that didn't make sense if you're in the logging industry
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