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Episode Date: January 28, 2025

Originally released as Episode 382 on 2/16/24.In this episode of Bigfoot Society, we dive into the extraordinary Bigfoot encounters experienced by John from East Texas. Starting with his initial skepticism, John narrates how strange sounds, tree breaks, and unusual animal behavior on his sprawling ranch led him to believe in the presence of Bigfoot in the area. Highlights include encounters with wood knocks, whoops, gifting exchanges, and even a mysterious roar that left him and his girlfriend stunned. John also shares insights from a knowledgeable Bigfoot researcher who helped him understand these phenomena. Tune in for an immersive look into the enigmatic world of East Texas Bigfoot sightings.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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It's going well. Good to be here. I'm excited to talk to you. It's been a little bit of time in coming, but I'm going to actually let you have the floor. Feel free to introduce yourself as you would see fit, and you can head right into what you've experienced. All right. Sounds good. I'm just a regular guy. I'm not a professional Bigfoot hunter. guess you'd say. And what I really want to do is just shared my observations and some of my experiences that I've had over the years that's been a part of my Bigfoot journey. It started back in grade school. Back in my day, there was this deal where there was a book club and the teacher would get a brochure and she would hand it out and there was a selection of books that you could purchase.

And so anyway, I'm thinking I'm about in seventh grade. And I'm looking through the brochure and I see this book and it's like a double feature. It's on one side you got Bigfoot and on the other side you got the lock nest monster. And I thought, man, that looks pretty interesting. I poneyed up my money and ordered it in a couple of weeks. Your books come in. And then I'll never forget. The teacher is she got the box and she's walked through class.

She's passing out the books. She's, oh, okay, little Susie, I see that you. You got a book? Oh, let's see. Julia Child, the chef. Oh, boy, that'll be good. And little Jimmy, oh, you got a book here on the Apollo astronauts. Oh, that'll be good.

And then she gets to mine, I'll never forget. She pulls it out and she looks at it. She's like, oh, John, you got a book on Bigfoot. And she says, I hope you realize that this is nothing more than a man in a monkey suit. And I was thinking of myself, well, this is great. I spell all my money and I've got a book on a man in a monkey seat. And so I thought at least there's the log mass monster. So anyway, I got home and I just put it on my bookshelf, never even touched it.

So I guess it's about a month later. And I'm over with my little buddy and we're riding our dirt bikes. And it goes to a rainstorm comes up. And his mother calls us and says, y'all kids get out, lightning's going to strike you. So we come on in the house. And so we're sitting there and we're watching the table. TV and like a lot of people that I've heard on different podcasts, all of a sudden there's this show that comes on and I'm hearing Leonard Nimoy. I'm thinking, my gosh, that's Spock.

And it's, of course, it's the old In Search of series that was on. And the particular one that was on that day was on Bigfoot. And so I sit there, I'm glued to the TV. And I mean as fast as the show is over, I am lickedy-split home, and I've grabbed that book, and I read it cover-to-cover three or four times. I wish I could remember the name of it, but I can't for the life of me. But so anyway, that sort of kicked off my whole Bigfoot experience, at least to give me some knowledge. As I grew older, I grew up on a ranch in New Mexico, in the Rocky Mountains, and landed and fished and just lived in the mountains. And I grew up. I grew up on a ranch in New Mexico, in the mountains. The ranch was at 9,000 feet, so we were way up in the mountainside. And never, the whole

time I was there, did you ever hear anything about Bigfoot, seeing Bigfoot, any signs or anything of if you heard of Bigfoot, it was always the Pacific Northwest. You just never heard of them in that area. And I just grew up like a lot of people. I'm like, I believe they exist, but they're into Pacific Northwest. As time passes, it. life goes on, you focus on your job and whatnot and another. So anyway, it rocks on about, I'd say about 20 years. And my late wife and I, we decided that we were going to do a lot of traveling up in the Pacific Northwest all through Oregon, Washington, Bridge, Columbia, Alberta, the Canadian Rockies, the Yukon Territories, Alaska.

We went all the way to the Arctic Circle. And we spent a lot of time just in not the tourist trap places, but off the road places. We did a lot of fishing. We would do a lot of, we'd fly into different camps and so on and so forth. We did a lot of rafting down the rivers fishing. We had a lot of Native American guides, and they're particularly the Chilicot tribe. Of course, there were some people from the, I think it's the Taggish, and then there was the, oh gosh, there's another. one I can't recall what they were Inuit Indians.

And you would hang around them. And one thing that I noticed about them was that when you bring up Sasquatch, they're very protective about it. They don't really, they don't really share a lot. They may say something, yeah, we believe this or that. But it's not until I get to know you a little bit better that they'll start to actually share what they actually believe. And like I said, we'd been around a lot of fishing guides.

We had met, we had gone to a training facility. There was a lady that was training dogs for that did rod. And she had a couple of people that worked with her Native American mussels. And they had some pretty interesting stories about experiences that they've had. And, of course, another group of people that I love to talk to is the Bush pilots because they're flying in all these remote areas. and so they have a lot. Of course, that bird's-eye view. But when you're up there and you're taking all that in,

there's so many things that it's just you would be hard-pressed to go to that area and not believe that a Sasquot exists. The museums, of course, there are oral histories, they're written histories. You've got carvings and paintings and totem poles that go back hundreds of years. It's just fascinating. that all of these tribes had their own opinion and take.

There's actually a book out that I want to read by Kathy Strain, I think is her name. It's called Giants, Cannibals and Monsters. I can't remember this lady's background, but it's basically about various Indian tribes and how that they distinguish Sasquatch. What is their opinion? Some of them consider it to be evil. Some of it consider it to be good.

And that's the same thing. that I picked up in Canada was there's somewhat variations in how that they looked at a Sasquatch for each particular tribe. So anyway, I returned. We're back in Texas, and I'm still skeptical. I 100% believe Sasquatch is in the Pacific Northwest and Canada, possibly Montana in that area, but I am just so skeptical that there could be any Bigfoot Sasquatch in the lower 48, or the south.

That's my attitude. I just, I'm very skeptical. I actually manage a ranch, and we've got several thousand acres. It's a mix. There's pasture land. There's cypress bottoms. We got plantation pines. And then the ranch is backed up to what's called type 2 land, which in Texas, there's, it's basically wildlife preserve that you can hunt on it, but it's basically land that's untouched.

And then backed up to that is a bunch of timber land that's owned by the timber company. And there again, there are some hunting leases on it, but not that many. And we're talking thousands upon thousands of acres that are continual. And inside of this acreage is there's rivers, there's lakes, there's just on the ranch alone, there's four artesian wells that have the best water you've ever tasted. There's canals and just multiple water sources, is I guess, what I'm trying to get at. So I'm out in this every day.

And I'm just oblivious to what's going on around me. I would hear wood knocks, and I'd be like, oh, the tree falling in the woods. I would hear whoops and say, I'm some kind of a coyote, sickly coyote. And I just wasn't, I wouldn't put any credence in what I was hearing. and I was just there again. They're not down here. And one day, we were fixing some fence. And I had a pen or I had a pasture with some young bulls

that would, let's just say, would be east of where we were fixing this fence. And so a lot of times you've got those young bulls together, they'll try to show out to each other. And they'll have this very low beller. They'll just boo-hoo. And they'll try and call another one out to have a push. and shove match. And so this bull was walking around out there and he was doing this low beller.

And all of a sudden, I noticed that directly to the west of us, I was hearing the same kind of sound, although it was different. It's a little more raspy. And I got thinking, I was like, a lot in the world because of the area that I was hearing the sound coming from was plantation pine. And there should not be any cattle over there. So my first thought is one of them's got out of the pen and he's got over there and got lost in the plantation. So we got through fixing the fence and I go to the pasture to check out to the bulls.

They're all there. And so then I go to check the fence and the fence is not broke. And I'm thinking to myself, what was it doing? Because I know there's not any other cattle back there. And I was very perplexed by that. So I come home and I'm just sitting around and I thought, let me just look and see. And so I get to look at our various websites. There's people that have said, yeah, that Bigfoot Sasquatch will come.

They'll mimic sounds such as that. They'll do whistles. They may do howls. And I got to think, well, that's interesting. That happened that day. And so it was just one little tidbit that was moving me in that direction. And so anyway, you know, a couple of days passed. and I'm starting to just pay a little bit more attention to what's going on.

So I end up meeting this lady, and she is just a bigfoot, a wealth of information. She has just, from her childhood, she has studied Bigfoot backwards, forwards up and down. And so we get to talking, and when I'm telling her about it, and she implies, you need to be a little more aware of what's going on. and you might actually open up, may open up a world to you. And so I do. I start paying a little bit

when I'm hearing wood knocks and start paying a little bit closer attention to them and so on and so forth. And so we end up going to a Bigfoot convention in Jefferson. And I end up talking to this lady.

She's a biologist, but she had some other degree in plants that I don't remember exactly what it was. I'd never heard of it before. But so we get to discussing various things about Bigfoot. And she is the first person that I remember that coined the term wood ape.

And I thought, huh. And so it stuck with me. And so we were talking about various things. And she said, what is it exactly that you don't believe that they're down here? And I'm like, I don't know that there's enough. I'm skeptical about the food source. And she said, obviously, John, there's rodents, there's deer, there's hogs. And I was like, yeah, I understand that, but you would think that there would need to be more.

And she goes to explain to me in great detail about other various plants that a wood ape could actually eat and survive on. And when it started, I started thinking about it and I was like, gosh, when you think about it, a ton of muscadines, we've got dewberries. We've got what's called Pope salad, which if not prepared correctly, is poisonous. but I traveled in Africa, and I remember the guy, I remember some of the great apes in Africa, would eat these particular leaves that they could eat, but if a human was to eat them, they would kill you. And so I got to think, well, there again,

that could certainly transfer them here. But the one thing that she said a couple of things that really stuck, and one of them was, is hackberry trees. And I had always, it's one of them deals where your buddy says, oh, yeah, macbary trees are poisonous. And so from that point on, you think they're poisonous. But in reality,

hackberries are like a superfood. And the ranch is loaded with these hackberries. And I was thinking, wow, that's something I hadn't thought of. And then something else she pointed out was she said turtles. She said that we feel like the wood apes, that's part of their diet. And that is something that I would see constantly would be turtle shells, where you would see the top laying over here and the bottom laying over here. And I would mention it to people and they'd say, oh, that's, that's gators doing that.

Well, then one day I saw a gator eat a turtle and there's no top and bottom. It's just the whole thing. And so I eliminated that theory altogether and, you know, started paying closer attention because there was turtle shells all over the place. And then another thing that she had mentioned was grubworm. you know, we've got lots of white oak, and of course they get old and die, and the things are full of grubs. And I would see places where that the bark was peeled off, and occasionally we have what's called honey bears. They're just little bitty black bears, and they're very scary. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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And so got all I could do the one day and then back the dozer off and went and did something else. a couple of days later, I come back. And I walk upon the most textbook tree break that I've ever seen. It was absolutely, it was an ironwood tree, roughly three and a half four inches in diameter. It's bent down, back down to the bottom of itself. And no, you know, absolutely not a weather-related situation. This was clearly bent down. And that, with the knowledge that I got at the convention and seeing that tree break, I started thinking, there's something going on here. And so I really started to pay even closer attention at that point. I had mentioned it to my girlfriend, and she was telling me, she said, you know what you need to do? She had to listen to a podcast where a lady was talking about. And she brought that up to me, and I thought, you got to be kidding.

That's ridiculous. But then I remember we had gone to that expedition Bigfoot up in Blue Ridge, Georgia. And I remember they're reading an article there at that museum where this lady had started this gifting program. So, anyway, at first I thought, that's ridiculous, me gifting a wood ape. And one day I was in my office doing something and I happened to just see, she had mentioned to me that they had show us there. I came across the set of marty grog beads. And so I thought, man, perfect deal. I put him in a treat a couple of days later.

I take them to this way back piece of the property. And I get back there, and of course, the instructions were that you take two sticks and form them in right angle, and then you put the item behind these sticks. I did exactly like I was told. And I'm thinking this is nuts. This is totally nice. and I get busy on another project. It's probably a week, if not more, before I get back down there.

So I pull up there, I'm on a Polaris, and I pull up there, and as I'm driving up there, I'm noticing something that seems out of place, and I'm thinking, what am the world? And as I get closer, what I find is just bizarre. I find a happy birthday balloon, like you would get at Walgreens or Walmart, And obviously somebody had a birthday and the balloon had got away, but I just can't believe that it would have landed where my gifting area was. So I find this happy birthday balloon.

And then the second thing that was even more strange was I found a gallon jug, a gallon oil jug from Texaco, Havelin Supreme, from back in the 90s. And I'm thinking, how did that give you? here. Now, the beads were still there, but apparently they had gifted me a balloon and an oil jug. I laughed it off at first, but then I got to think something did this, and I know it's not people, because we're talking way back, and the places we watch the property very closely, and so that kind of got to me, I guess you'd say, and it was just one more thing. So,

a couple more weeks passed, and I'm on another project. We had a 30-acre lake that blew out during Hurricane Harvey. We had 30 inches of rain. It blew the levee out. And so when the lake blew out, it actually caused there to be a lagoon. And at the back edge of it, there's a little kind of an island that sticks out. So I was patching a road, and I was stealing some clay from an area there to patch this road. And so I'm on a skidster. I'm going back and forth patching this road. And I get to where I'm done. And as I'm leaving, I notice that there's this, there's a hitchpin that's on this piece of equipment that had fallen off. It had happened before the thing's like $200. So I thought, man, I got to go find this thing. So I know that I've only been to the lagoon and back. So I just

parked the machine and I walk. So I walk down trail. I get to this lagoon area. And I've sure enough, I find the pen laying there in the dirt, pick up the pen. But as I'm turning around, I've got this feeling that something is watching me. You know how it'll come over you sometimes. And so I turn around and I look, but I don't see anything. And so just on the way, I grab my camera and I just snap, I do a one inch of that, and just go on about my business. I come home and later that night, I'm going to the pictures look and I don't see that and I don't see that. And then all of a sudden, I see this picture that's just bizarre.

And I can't really make it out. I blow it up. I put it on my home computer, blow it up a little bit more. And I did not see this when I took the picture. So I did not know what was there when took the picture. But as I go to looking at it, the best way I can describe it, and this is going to sound ridiculous, it sounds like the head, the lead singer, the insane clown posse. It's this weird looking face.

And you can clearly see eyes and a nose, a pudgy nose. But the top of the skull from like right above the eyebrow going over kind of the top of the skull, you can clearly see where there's no fur. It's just skin. And on the other side, you can clearly see that it's, that there's hair there. It's behind the branch. There's a branch in the way, but you can make out of its face,

and it's not hunching down. And it was actually on that little island in that foliage looking at me. And it's one of these pictures. Some people will look at it, and they'll instantly see it. Other people look at it, and they'll be like,

I don't know what you're talking about. But I thought it was really interesting. So I thought, huh, it's one more thing. And again, time passes on. I'm paying more. attention. I noticed one day I get there at a ranch and I'm hearing like sound what sounds like a peacock and way back in the woods and when I'm thinking, man, what? How did that get there? And so I go back there. I don't see any sign of any peacock or anything such as that, but clearly heard what

sounded like a peacock. As I'm going back there, I go through an area where there's a tremendous growth of hackberries and they were all the berries had made and they were just thick. And so I actually go over there. I'm going to get some and eat them and I happen to look down and I noticed there it was sand and it was wet sand so it was like hard packed. But you could see where that something had come up there and had reached up to grab some of the berries. It had made an imprint.

Nothing that was castable, but it was something that you could clearly, you could make it out, especially you can't, in the picture, you can't really see it that well. But being there, you can see it. But what I noticed was that the print, it's not like what I would have thought. It wasn't a Sasquatch print. It wasn't something that was 16 inches long and seven inches wide or like that. It was actually, you could see that it had toes, but what shot me the most was it was very wide.

It was compared to its length. And that goes back to my conversation with this woman about the wood aches. And so that kind of put me over into the camp of, I believe, and I know a lot of people disagree with me, but I believe in East Texas, I believe that we have wood aches. It would be hard for me to believe that a nine-foot Sasquatch could maneuver through the thick underbrush that we typically have. Now, don't get me wrong, there's areas that are open, but the majority of it is pretty, it's pretty viny, and it's thick. And not only that, a lot of the bottom areas are quite swampy, and I think something, in my opinion, I think that something more in the seven-foot bracket and down with a one. much wider foot is better suited for that type of territory to get around in.

And so after seeing that print, I'm getting over there in this wood ape camp even more. There again, here we go again, another couple of weeks go by. And I'm going down a trail. I forget what I was doing. I was going back there to check something. And all of a sudden, I get this wolf of this smell that smells exactly like the, the inside of a beaver den. I know a lot of people say,

it smells like sewer and so on and so forth, but this was like musky inside of a beaver den. And so, man, I slam, I'm on a player, slam my brakes, and I just go to looking around. And there again, I don't,

I'm not seeing anything, but I just start taking pictures of such a ham. Get on back to my office and start looking, and here again, I see this head. There's a tree that's falling over, and the roots have pulled up out of the ground, so it's got dirt on them. And there's this creature that's up there against these roots,

and lo and behold, he's got, you can see the baldness in the head again. And I'm like, here we go again. This could clearly be the same, I'm looking at the same guy again. I think two days later, about less than a quarter of a mile from where I saw, got this picture of this creature, I got, I had some trail cameras set out. And, of course, don't get me snorted on trail cameras, because that's the biggest mystery in the world is why we can't get a good shot of one on a trail cam. But I did have one that was set. I actually set it in a rotten tree to worry that it was not on the actual. outside of the tree. It was inside the tree. And you could not see this thing. Of course,

it was only shooting forward. It was very limited scope. But I got a picture of what appears to be, and I've looked at it a hundred times. It looks like it's, it looks like it's a hip and possibly an elbow of something. I recreated it. I know it's absolutely not a deer. It's not a honey bear, because it's too high. And it's not a coyote or anything like that. It had to be something that at least was standing about four feet tall. And like I said, it's just like a hip and an elbow. But it was something.

And that's the only picture that I've ever got on any of the trail cams of any value that I would say. As far as that goes. So it's like last year, middle of the winter, it's freezing. And my girlfriend and I decided that we're going to go back to the back part of the property where the lake, the old lake that blew out is. And so I think it's 12 degrees. We're crazy.

And so we go out there and so we're easing around. Everything is just solid for, especially for Texas, 12 degrees for Texas, East Texas is cold. And so we're easing around and we get to this area. And we noticed it was one of those deals where that it was 60 degrees one day and then the next day it's 12. And so the day prior it had rained. And so everything was sloppy. And we noticed right there at the edge of this embankment is a very clear. I would not, I would call it a baby.

I wouldn't even call it a juvenile. It was a very small footprint. that had it actually was made when it was wet, but it had froze. And then again, it was something, you couldn't really cast it, but it was a pretty interesting footprint. And so that kind of got our hopes up on that deal. And we went on and did some more driving around, and we got to a point where I wanted to check and see if I could see any footprints.

There was an area that it washed out. And I just wanted to go there. We kill the players for just a second, and we're sitting there just listening, and all of a sudden, we hear on an old logging tram, we hear what sounds like a gibbon monkey. It has that exact sound like a given, and it does it three distinct times. And, of course, we are rookies. You talk about rookies. We are like rookies. We don't have any recording.

We're sitting there just listening. Here it three times. Finally, we wake up, start recording. Of course, at that point, we don't hear it no more. But very distinct, like a gibbon monkey, three times. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. It may just be the world's greatest eraser. Mabelian Instant Eraser Concealer is your secret weapon for erasing signs of a sleepless night.

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gate and I happen to look down on the ground and it's they're getting Again, it's sandy type soil. And I went down there, and this just shocked me. There was one of our cow dogs print. There was a perfect dog print in this sand. And then something had taken its finger and had made a circle around that dog print. And I just have to believe that was a parent teaching a small. one. Okay, here, this is a dog print. Look out for this. Be aware of this. And I've got a pretty

good picture of it, but that just really stuck with me. I'd never seen, I've never heard of anybody that has came across to anything like that, or that was the first time I had actually ever seen it. So there again, I'm, man, I'm more on track. I think there's wood aches in East Texas. So fast forward, it's this past. Christmas, and I had got a thermal camera. So now we're moving up. I've got some equipment. And so I'm thrilled to death. We got a thermal. And so we go out and we get there at the ranch. And I've got to put out some hay to some cows before we go and do some research or some hunting. And we know when we get out of the truck and we hear three perfect.

wops just booming right in a row and I thought wow here we are it's setting up good so I put out the hay and we we make around three the woods we we tend to play some we walk some and we hear two or three more good whoops and then we hear our own favorite the peacock sound again. We didn't stay there that long. We had stuff to do. So we called the night pretty early, but we left out and came back the next day, the next afternoon. Horrible weather. It's raining. It's not necessarily freezing cold, but it's chilly. It's certainly the kind of weather that you'd rather just be in the house. But now we've got to new thermal hammer. We've got to do something. My girlfriend goes down to the lake. We have about an eight acre of light or a three-acre lake.

that she had gone down to. And she's walking on the lake levee and honestly believes that she's hearing something. And she's actually thinking that she's being parallel by one off into the creek. And we get down, when I actually get back down there, and we notice that there's this really odd trail that comes out of the creek and it goes to the lake. And it goes down to the lake in an area that's very flat, where the bank, is not steep. And there's this trail beat out.

And so I instantly think it's probably beavers. I got to look around. There's no beaver sign whatsoever. And there's a very faint juvenile footprint that you can somewhat pick up. And so I thought, I thought this is an area that I'll put up one of my cameras in the future and see what happens. But we go back and we get the players, of course, it's pitch black.

Now, the clouds are just thick clouds. Every once in a while, the mood will poke through just for a second, but it goes back, pitch black. So I got my thermal out. I'm just thrilled to death. I'm hogs, deer, funny things and trees, and we're having a big time. And, of course, here again, we're rookies. We should have had gopros going and recording devices, but we're enamored with the thermal. So there's an area that I'm wanting to go that's back off and it's a cypress swamp.

And so I'm wanting to go back down to that area. And so we're easing down this trail and it gets to this point in this trail where that it's so thick that the trees have actually grown into themselves. So it's almost like you're going in a tunnel. And so we get, as we're pulling up to this tunnel, or this tunnel, this trail, my girlfriend, now she doesn't tell me this at that time, but as we're pulling in there, she starts to get really anxious. She said, just this anxious feeling just comes over. Of course, it's pitch black.

We do have the headlights on the Polaris, but it's totally pitch black everywhere else. And she says she gets this feeling like she's just getting anxious. And just all of a sudden, out of nowhere, there's just this roar that is so loud that it actually is even, you can even clearly hear it over the Polaris motor. And I'm just basically stunned by it. I'm just sitting there in disbelief of what I'm hearing. And she says that I'm looking at her and she said, I'm actually smiling. and at this point she is completely

panic and she's freaking out and she literally is so scared that she punches me because I'm not acting. I have no reaction. I'm just sitting there with a smile on my face like I'm crazy. And she literally punches me and I come out of it

and she's, we got to get out of her. So we basically put it in reverse and high tail out of there and I can tell she is scared and at that point I'm even starting to get scared then. because it sounded like the roar of a howler monkey.

It just, you hear the people say that you can feel it. I can't honestly say that I felt it because I were a windshield in front of me, but I certainly heard it clearly over the plurse motor. So we back up, we figured that's enough for one night. Of course, here again, after the fact, I got the thermal out. trying to look. I'm not getting anything, but at that point, there again, we're rookies, we're out of Dodge. So we go back the next day. So we're on a mission. We're going to make it down there to the swamp. And so we're headed back there. And we're on the, we're on the

players. Everything's doing good. And all of a sudden, the players starts acting up. The thing's been running perfect. And all of a sudden, it just starts acting up. And it's Boo, bu, but it's like there's an ignition problem. It hits and it quits and it quits and it hits and it quits and then all of a sudden it just quits. And there's no fire. And we just set down and try to fire it back up in just no way. Of course, it's starting to get dark. And so the last place we want to be is out there on foot.

And so we abandon the flares and hightail it back to the ranch headquarters and end up going back the next day. day to get it and get on it, fires right up. Now, I've heard people say on numerous podcasts that they have the ability to mess with electricity. I don't know if that's true or not, but what I can tell you is that this polaris that was running perfectly, all of a sudden quits. And when we go get it the next day, I don't know if they're, if they've moved on or what the deal is, but it fires right up. We end up going back again. Finally, we make it down into the

swamp. And we do get, we get one good, I think that bad, we get two good whoops, but they're at a distance. And that was about all we had time for. And I guess at that point, that's the last that I've been out there other than my daily stuff. There was a guy that was on your podcast, I think it's been months ago, and he had made a comment that he believes that they move in and out of areas. And I completely agree with that. We had a real, we went a long time and didn't have any issues with hogs. And then all of a sudden we started having major issues of hogs. And I noticed that the activity level definitely increased when the hogs were there. Now, the hogs have died out, and I've noticed that I'm not hearing any, not hearing the whoops, I'm not hearing the peacock. I'm not hearing

such as that. And so I think that they've possibly moved on to another area, but I think that they, you know, I think that they move back around. I'm just keeping after it. And hopefully one day I'm trying, my goal is to get,

I'd love to get a good cast, something that I can compare, the something that I can show, look, it's wider than it, you know, it's not one of these that's really long. It's got some width to it.

And so anyway, That's about it. I just wanted to share that. And maybe some other folks are in the same boat as I am, and they'll get to the point that they'll start to believe that they're down in the south as well. John, you've got some incredible things going on that ranch. Thank you for sharing that. I have some thoughts if that's all right.

Yeah, absolutely. What I would recommend to do if it was me in that situation is I would take some advice from Chris Spencer from the Olympic project. And you can watch about this on Small Town Monsters YouTube channel. Eli Watson has a documentary series he's been doing. But what Chris Spencer does is he will be wearing like a headland band. And he'll actually have a audio recorder in that headband. So when he leaves the vehicle, it's already recording, right? because he says what you've also experienced is that usually when you get out of the cars right away,

you're going to experience some type of whoop, which you've been experiencing already. But that might be a way that you'd be able to actually capture this audio. If you're wanting to try to do that. Oh, absolutely. You can get a solid recorder for not that much. You can get a task cam for just anywhere from, like, like 80 something to 100. They're pretty inexpensive now.

I'll put a link in the show notes for what I use personally. But wow. And that is for audio record. Yeah. Yeah, okay. That would be for audio. Because, man, it would be really cool if you could at least get some of the whoops recorded. That would be cool.

I think the one that really, of course, that roar was, now that, I did not see that coming a million miles away. I'm enameled with the peacock because it sounds like a male peacock. And I know good when we don't have any peacocks out there. And I just get tickled and I have to laugh when I hear it. I'm thinking myself, it's just ridiculous. What are they doing? And another, the other thing is when it sounds like that gibbon monkey, that's unusual to me. And I've had people to say, oh, owls do that.

I'm like, in the middle of the day, I've never experienced. I experienced owls doing some stuff tonight, but not at 2 in the afternoon, at least in my opinion. But yes, you couldn't be more right. That just, we've made so many rookie mistakes, it's not even fun. But it's like anything else that you do. You get out there, you experience it, and you learn, and you just do better than next time. Absolutely. Let's see, I'm looking through my notes here.

We're leaving the location at East Texas, right? We just have to be nebulous about East Texas. Yeah. I would say southeast. Gotcha. Are you able to share any more about the female researcher that you had been talking to? I cannot remember her. So last of me, I can't remember her name.

She was sitting at our table. And I know, if I'm no mistaken, she had done work with the WoodAke conservative. N-A-W-A-C, yeah. She had worked with them, and this was an super smart lady. She really, in a lot of ways, she was a lot of the catalysts that really got me to focus. When she mentioned what she did about the turtles, that really, because that is something that I have been seeing for years.

The turtle split in part, when I'm thinking, oh, that's kind of weird. And it never really put the pieces together. And then she was like turtles or meat of a turtle, highly nutritious and easily caught and make a nice little meal. And when she made mention of that, I was like, wow, that's definitely something that made sense to me. Yeah, it's very smart. If any listeners have an idea of who that might be, you can put it in the comments, or if you need to reach out to me an email, you can do it that way. to Bigfoot Society atchema.com. Sounds like that might be someone fun to chat with for sure.

Would you be able to share the photos that you took? Yes, yeah. Awesome. That would be really cool to see those. It is funny that you mentioned the lead singer of insane clown posse. Because I've actually, if you're talking about the same guy, I actually interviewed him on the podcast because he had a Bigfoot encounter just outside of Detroit.

So we talked a while back. I had actually read that somewhere and I was thinking, you ought to be kidding me. The actual guy, the actual singer. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like I said, this photo, but some people can look at it and like I said,

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There again, I find it hard to believe that it's shadows or something of that. You can clearly see two eyes, the glare of the sun coming off its nose, and the glare of the sun shining off the ball spot on its head. It's there to see. And now in the second photo where that it's over by the stump, that was a little bit more difficult.

But for me, seeing exactly where it was at, it was clear to me to worry that I could understand what was going on. And having seen the ball spot, I could definitely notice it again, even though this was at a far greater distance. It wasn't as close as the other one was. But there again, that smell. I would have never stopped and just taking random pictures had I not got that odor. I mean, that odor just inside of a beaver den just stopped me dead in my tracks.

I mean, I was like, that's weird. because I was not near water, and that one definitely just stopped me. And the one of the, like I said, it looks like it's hip. I mean, you can clearly see it's something. Well, I don't know, but that's the only, I have had every kind of trail camera you can imagine out in every kind of place you can imagine. And that is the only what I would call good picture that I've got. got.

I've gotten some images at a distance that looking at in their names, something out there, but it's not something you can say yes or no to. And that, to me, that is the biggest mystery in the whole big thing. It's why that there's just not more caught on trail cams. But obviously, they have got an ability to elude them. And I think only because I had gone to the great extent to get this thing up in this dead tree and camouflaging in all kind of different ways, I think that's the only reason that I got what I got. I think if they're even halfway camouflaged, I think they're detected somehow. And I didn't have one, I did have one experience one time.

Of course, I don't know. I may be reading something into it. But I was back and I was fixing some fence on the back corner of this property. And so, anyway, I'm gathering up my tools and I'm walking back to the mule. And all of a sudden, I just got this horrible, of course, I'm 60 years old, dizzy spells part of the game. And I was actually feeling really good. And boom, I just got this really strange dizzy sensation come over me.

And I made it to the mule. sat down, of course, I drank some water. And I wasn't, I wasn't overheated or anything like that. And there again, I got to think, I thought, what was that all about? And then, of course, you hear people that say that they have that ability to do that. And so there again, I don't know, but it makes me wonder. Absolutely. Have you, I guess you're an interesting situation because the ranch is so big, but have you talked to any neighbors that are on the outskirts?

of the ranch to see if they've experienced anything out of the ordinary? We really don't have any neighbors that are in the core of the of the main body. They're on the outskirts, but in those areas, it's relatively populated. But what I have experienced is the adjacent land behind the ranch that is the type 2 preserve. I've talked to several people. I say several. I've talked probably four or five people that have,

I was talking to this one guy. He's passed away. I'm thinking now, but years ago, I think it was back in the 90s, he was going, him and a buddy were going duck hunting. And there's a lot of sloughs in this area.

And so him and his buddy, they were going duck hunting. And they drove their truck to this area. where you had to park. And there was a gate. And if you, I think if you had a permit, you had a key or something.

So they drive, they get up to this gate and they're going through the gate. And the guy says, it's in the morning, dark. And he's got his flashlight in his mouth and he's going through the gate. And all of a sudden he looks down and he sees a footprint. And he's,

what is that? And so he calls his buddy over there. And they looked, of course, this was before cell phone cameras. that, but they're thinking, wow, that's crazy. And so they dismiss it and they walk another couple of hundred feet. And then all of a sudden, the footprints come back into this trail. And so they follow them. And you can clearly follow them. So they follow them to the edge of this

slew. And he said, they get there. He said, it's still dark. But he said, you can hear this. And he said, he takes his light and he shines it. it's cypress trees basically and he shines it and he says that about 70 yards away or not that about 30 yards away he said that they see this figure and he and they say it just basically they see it for a couple of seconds and then it just disappears behind some brush and he they were he was a believer all his life and i talked to another man that he actually had some property. Now, he sent and sold it to the timber company, and they actually planted in it, they put in a eucalyptus plantation. But this guy had a place back there,

and he was an older guy, and he said that he would hear him all the time. It wasn't nothing for him to hear him two or three times a week. Whoops, hollers, yells, the whole nine yards, imitations of his cat. And I have talked to, and then there was another, guy that was a dentist that I had talked to once before, that he was in one of the rivers fishing and that he said that same kind of deal. He said they were sitting there fishing and he said all of a sudden they heard this splash. And he said they happened to look up into this kind of a slew area. And he said they see this creature just for a second, just basically going across the slid. And this guy, he, for years in his retirement, they tell me.

that he would come down and just set out cameras and look and whatnot. So, yeah, a few people. I have talked to some other people that have had some pretty interesting sightings on the Sabine River, which is not terribly far from where we're at. And some relatively pretty interesting stories coming out of that part of the world, which, in my opinion, that's more of the hot spot in East Texas. I had talked to a guy. Very interesting story.

They were working, they were from a contracting company out of Tyler, and they were down working on a bridge over by the Sabine River, on just the county road. It wasn't no major thoroughfare, and they're doing some work on this bridge. And so they, the county,

there was some kind of an area that the county used for gravel or something, and they allowed them to put up their campers in this area, so they wouldn't have to drive back and forth to get a motel. And so guys like, we've got our fifth wheel parked there, and he said that they had, every night they would cook out on the pit. And he said, he said, it smelled great. He said, we had pork butt and barbecue and everything else. And he said that one night, he said they were laying there in bed and he said that he was in the bedroom of his fifth wheel which is obviously in the front part which is high and he said that they he said it was you know perfectly still he said that the air conditioner wasn't running and he had his windows open and or he had one of his windows

open and he said that you could literally hear something thump thump and he sat up and he looked around and they thought I'm just hearing things. And then he said, just out of the blue, he said the moonlight was shining into the fifth wheel. And so he said all of a sudden something distorted the light. And he said he glanced over to the window, which was closed. And he said he saw a hand up against that window.

And he said, he went screaming. And he said, the hand went away. and he said everybody woke up and, you know, they're, what the hell's going on? They turn on the lights and look around. And, of course, he's, man, I saw somebody's out there. I've seen their hand up there. And they were like, nobody's here. Nobody's here.

And so they all went back to bed. And the next morning they woke up. And they had left, I forget, they'd left something out there on the pit. And that, whatever it was that they left out there was gone. but he said that you could still clearly see the smudge of the handprint on the window. And I thought, man, that's a pretty close encounter. But that, like I said, that was over closer to the Sabine River area. Yeah, the Sabine River definitely has some wild stuff.

And if listeners want to hear more about that, read more about that, Lyle Blackburn has a great book on Texas Bigfoot that he came out with this last year. Definitely recommend looking into that. At the beginning of our interview, we had, you had mentioned in passing about talking to Iditarod musher's and Bush pilots about Bigfoot way back when you had been traveling. Is there anything that you remember from those conversations? Yeah, there are actually a couple of things. We were talking to this one musher that was saying that so they, when they're, when they're, training these dogs, they'll start off like on 50 mile courses. And then they build them up and build

them up and build them up. And so they've actually got numerous teams. And so it's not like they have one team. They have several. And then they'll end up picking out the best groups to actually run the Iditarod. There's several mushers that go out. And these guys, they'll go out for two or three days. these dogs. And this one guy, his name was Billy. I remember that. And he was telling me that he was, this would have been up by Whitehorse up in the Yukon. And he was telling me that they were camping by a river. It wasn't, I'm trying to remember, it wasn't in the time of the year when it was bitter cold. The sunlight was out. It must have been this in the spring. And so there was still snow, but it's not

just horrible, dark, and cold. And he said it's starting to thaw. And so they had run this course, and he was saying that they had set up camp by this river. And he said that they had typical deal of take care of the dogs

first, got the dogs fed, got the dogs staked out. And he's in there in his tent. And he, being Native American, I think they have an ability to sometimes sense things. And he's got He said he's got an uneasy feeling. And he goes out back out of the tent, but he said all the dogs are not acting up.

He said, they're all basically bed down. And he said that he just had this strange feeling that something was out there. And so he goes back. He finishes getting a little bite to eat. He lays down. And he says there again, he said something is like telling him there's something out there. So he puts on his head lamp. He goes back out.

The dogs are still, typically the dogs would smell something, scent something. But he said nothing. And he goes back out there. And he said that he's looking around. There's nothing. And he's sitting there thinking himself, you're just, your mind's playing tricks on you. You just need to go on to bed. You've got a big day tomorrow.

And he said he walks up to the tent. he's fixing to go into the tent and he said something just tells him stop and so he backs out and he takes his headlight and he looks down he said there was like a a row of trees that was by this creek or river and he said he looks down these rows of trees and he said that at about the tenth tree which i don't remember i think he was saying it was like maybe 50 yards away or something he said there's this clearly there's this creature that is standing

behind a tree but the tree is not big enough to hide it. You can see the shoulder on this side and the shoulder on this side and he said that he's shining the light on it just clearly and he said he's not he doesn't know whether to get his gun he doesn't really know what to do he's just waiting it out.

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Sponsored by GSK. And he said, after about a couple of minutes, He said, all of a sudden, he said, you see it tilt its head a little bit. And he said, you can clearly see one eye. And he said, it turns. And he said, it just vanishes in a split second. It's just gone. And he said, that next morning, they went over there.

And he said, there were some sure enough good size footprints. But to them, it's like just another day. I've heard a grandpa told me about them. Just don't mess with them. they won't miss with me and they go on about it. A lot of the Bush pilots that you'll talk to, there was one guy was talking to, and he said that, of course,

when you're flying a plane in Alaska, it's not autopilot. Your hands and feet are working all the time because of the terrain and the weather. So it's not a situation where you can drive around with your camera in your hand, but he said that, and this wasn't just one.

This was a couple of them had said that, you'll be flying along there. And he said, all of a sudden, you'll glance down there on the river and bam. You'll see one. Just for a second, they'll notice you coming and they'll, boom, they're in the woods. And so I thought, I would imagine that it made sense to me that in their job, that they do see them quite often are more than what you would think anyway. And then, of course, a lot of the guys that work the rafts, when you're a raft and you're fishing, you're basically, and so you're not making any noise and you're flowing down that river and you'll come around a bend.

And that didn't happen with us, but we were in a place called Calcutna, which is a neatest little town you ever saw in your life. and there was some river guides there that we took a trip, fishing trip with, and there was a guide of saying that the year prior they had rounded a bin, and they had seen one out there about knee-deep. And he said that it seen them, they seen it, that just back in the woods. It's a fascinating story, John. You're an absolute wealth of information. Thank you.

I just, like I said, I just, I think there's a lot of people that are in my same. boat that grew up believing that they're in the Pacific Northwest. That's, they're in Canada. They're in Alaska. And it's not until you just really take the time to, to look deeper into it. Or to just explore the things that you're just dismissing. And maybe they are. There may be times where you hear something and, yeah, it is a coyote.

But then other times it may not be. And if you're one of those people that you're riding the fence, And you're like, I think what you'll find if you just spend a little more time and look a little bit closer, that you might be surprised. And like I said, I'm looking to get that good cast one day. That's my goal is to find a good, I've got my casting kit and everything ready to go when that day comes. But that's what I'm after. We'll see. You say your main goal is to get a really good cast.

But what happens if you're out there in the Cyprus and you actually get. a visual face to face with a wood ape? Have you thought that to hear? I don't know. After the episode with the roar, I'm not even sure that I could keep myself together. You hear, you listen to these podcasts, and you hear these people that have these experiences,

these close-up experiences, and I just got to wonder, could I keep it together if, but it was so strange. Like I said, my girlfriend was, She was in full-blown panic mode now. She was panic. And I was just, I was off in another world. I was, when we talked about it, I told her, I said, I did hear the roar.

But my mind was sitting there processing, what was that? And I said, I really, the fear didn't come upon me until I'd actually process the fact that, oh my gosh, that was something. And then I'm like, oh, good Lord. When you talk, I hear people that are like, I got my trusty 45, that's something I ain't going to get me. Yeah. Yeah. I'm here to tell you what.

If a Bigfoot wanted to take you out, I don't care what you got. You're gone. I mean, that's clear to me. They're just so stealthy that I don't, you're just not going to do it. And that, that's, that gets on another subject that talking to the. people in Canada and so forth is that they believe that Sasquatch in a lot of ways are like people that they have different personalities. I know my girlfriend is she's of the belief she's man that red fur if they got that red fur they're mean. They're nasty but if they're brown or black

they're more bossed and of course I'm always laughing at it but it's if you really get to looking at it, you listen to people, and the ones that are the red fur actually do seem to be a little bit more aggressive. And there's no science behind that I've come up with, but other than just hearing people's stories. I've heard that as well. Yeah. And so I agree. I think that they've got distinct. It's like anybody else. It's what were you exposed to coming up that cause you to be the way you are. And so I think that the ones that are violent had probably been exposed to that. And the ones that are not have probably been exposed to kindness.

And so I think that affects how they actually act. But I do believe overall they're extremely shy creatures in my opinion. Last question for you. It's a weird one. And if you don't have anything, that's fine. It's actually a question for all the listeners, too, just in case. but have you ever heard anything weird coming out of the Franklin County, Texas area? I have heard, are you talking as far as just weird in general?

Mainly Bigfoot related, but I guess that could be anything, but mainly Bigfoot related. I have heard some stories, but what I've heard is more been, I don't know, the mix of Bigfoot Dogman. Really? What I've heard. Now, you know, that, for what that's, worth, but, but I have heard of some strange things happening in that area. Of course, another area that's got strange stuff happening is down in Saratoga, Texas, where the, where the brag light is

at. Sure. There's a lot, there's a lot of people that, or I say a lot of people, there are people that, of course, the legend is the train conductor who lost his head and he's looking for his head and got the light. There, there are people, of course, that's backed up to the big thicket preserve, which is thousands of acres of preserve. Absolutely. And there's people that you, when you start talking to those people, those are the people that believe that Bigfoot has got something to do with portals. And they believe that the light that people see, I've actually been there and

sat what that's worth. But yeah, and it's what it looks like. It looks like in the distance, there's this, of course, this was back of the 90s when I saw it. There's this dancing light. and I have no explanation. I've heard everything under the sun's swamp gas, you name it, the moon shadows, but there are some people that believe that that is a portal.

And that is why that there are some people that, there's quite a few sightings from time to time down in that area. Bigfoot related. And you've got that group of people to say, hey, that's that portal. So Franklin County, you said there are, is there actually? actual dogman sightings around that area too. They're seen together or a kind of separate sightings with dog man versus bigfoot? I've, the stories that I've heard, now I've heard a few people with Bigfoot related stories, but I was listening. Gosh, it's been, seems, but I was listening to a guy that I think he was on, on dark waters.

Oh, sure. Yeah. And I think this guy was from over there, and it was Dogman related to this guy. And I'm thinking this guy was a, I'm wanting to say that this guy was even a deputy sheriff. Don't quote me on that. But it seemed like he was a constable or something like that. And I specifically remember it was Dogman. Very interesting.

It has been a fun time chatting with you, John. Thank you so much for reaching out to me. You're very welcome. You're very welcome. I'm here. Your podcasts. And I just like the way you do business. I just really appreciate you. Thank you. And I don't think that the activity is going to let up on your ranch that you deal with. So please keep me in the loop with what continues to happen down there. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you, all my listeners, for listening to the podcast. please take a minute to help out the show by subscribing on YouTube, making sure you hit the bell so you don't miss any notifications, and share the episode on YouTube with a friend.

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