Bigfoot Society - Wildlife Biologist Comes Forward in Pennsylvania!
Episode Date: June 13, 2025Matt Carter, a former wildlife biologist from Southwest Pennsylvania, shares his first-ever public account of strange and unnerving encounters on his family's secluded 20-acre property. Matt recounts ...witnessing unexplained events including UAP sightings, eerie vocalizations, and an intense encounter with an unseen entity. From potential Sasquatch interactions marked by wood knocks and unidentifiable bird calls to bizarre howls and unsettling smells, Matt's experiences challenge his scientific training. He plans to use advanced recording equipment to capture proof and seeks collaboration with other researchers to further investigate mysterious activities in the area. An episode packed with fascinating details and spine-chilling moments.Resources:https://www.stangordon.info/wp/Birds of the West Virginia Northern Panhandle II (Matt's book) - https://amzn.to/3QAczC0 (Amazon Affiliate link)Wild and Weird West Virginia - https://www.youtube.com/@WildandWeirdWVSasquatch Summerfest this year, is July 11th through the 12th, 2025. It's going to be fantastic. Listeners, if you're going to go, you can get a two day ticket for the cost of one. If you use the code "BFS" like Bigfoot society and it'll get you some off your cost.Priscilla was a nice enough to provide that for my listeners. So there you go. I look forward to seeing you there. So make sure you head over to www. sasquatchsummerfest. com and pick up your tickets today.If you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to bigfootsociety@gmail.com. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: bigfootsociety@gmail.com
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All right, Bigfoot Society. I've got the privilege of talking to Matt Carter today from
Southwest Pennsylvania. He's a former wildlife biologist that's had some very interesting things
happen over the years that he's on the show today to share. And Matt, welcome to the program.
How's it going? It's going pretty good. Thank you for having me.
Absolutely.
Yeah, I mean, I'm just really excited to finally like share this. It's the first.
first time I've talked publicly about this.
I know we have a lot of ground to cover.
You've sent me a lot of really interesting things through email so far.
So Matt, I'm going to go ahead and give things right over to you.
You're welcome to take us back when this first started happening.
Any context we need to know.
And feel free to go ahead, man.
Okay, well, my name's Matt Carter.
I get into wildlife biology around 2013.
I was going to Bethany College, which is like,
through Northern Panion to West Virginia,
you know, the section between Ohio and PA.
And that was kind of like the first, like, weird thing I've ever, like, experienced.
We found what now I know is tree structures.
And I found it weird because they tried to say that it was from the Boy Scouts
who did have a camp in that area.
But what the Boy Scouts did was they took, like, iron
and they made essentially like a frames out of it,
almost like TP style, I guess more.
like Teepee style. That way all you had to do was just carry in a piece of cannabis, you know,
strap it down and you have a tent. So I didn't understand why they would be making these like
rudimentary things that weren't even close to that camp. I'm like, I guess there's merit badges
stuff they could do, but that was, that's really like one of the only like weird things before
all this. So I just wanted to throw that out there because I'm sure people around that area
have probably seen and heard crazy stuff because if there's like nothing there.
So fast forward to
Now I'm staying with my mom
I didn't care her because she's got a lot of health problems
And I had transferred to
Well now it's Penn West but it was Cal U at the time
For their wildlife program
And so while I was going
Like while I was going there I've been staying here
And so everything started around 2020
Like I said nothing really weird
I've experienced here until then.
But it was around like late May, early June.
The first weird thing, like this is, I saw a UAP out here.
It was like his giant ball light that came up.
It was about the size of a pickup truck.
And I immediately contacted the only person I knew was Stan Gordon, you know,
and told him like what had happened.
And then that was weird.
And then it's kind of rolled into, it was around early June.
So it wasn't that much longer after this happened in March that we were out sitting at our picnic table.
Because our property, it's kind of like a huge field.
It's like a 20-acre field.
There's a mass amount of woods around us.
And there's a pond like way back.
It's very like kind of secluded up here.
So when there's an apple tree that's kind of to the right of our house with a picnic table, we were sitting there.
And, you know, everything was normal.
And then suddenly I heard, I noticed the dogs were.
acting really weird. They kept
like looking to our left towards the wood
line and I'm like you know
what the heck? Like this is really weird
all three dogs. They're like alerting
to something. So I
stood up, you know, being a wildlife guy,
I figured, well, maybe it's coyotes.
And now I concerned was the coyotes might
try to lure our dogs away.
And, you know, nothing good is going to come from that.
So I stood up and I walked
over and I was staying there just looking
and then all of a sudden I hear like plain as day
a wood knock. And I was
I was like, oh, that's weird.
And my mom said, what?
I said, you didn't hear that.
I said, that sounded like somebody took like a stick or, you know, ball bat something to smack the tree.
And she said, are you kidding?
I said, Mom, I would never joke about wildlife stuff.
And she said, well, what would do that?
What kind of animal?
I said, well, you would need hands to actually pick something up and smack something like that.
And then we heard a second one.
And she heard it this time.
And now the dogs moved for more.
were to between me and like you know where you can't see from the the campfire and then we heard
another one answer it back further up in the woods that was when i'm like okay time to take the dogs in
and it was very hard to get them inside that night like they really did not want to leave like where
they were like they were really freaked out even walk over towards that part of the property
because we kind of had to walk that direction to get back to the house so that was like
the first like real weird thing out here wildlife wise.
I'm like, okay, something's in that woods making noises that I don't know what it is.
And that's a problem because I've been doing this, you know, for a better part of a decade at that point.
And I've spent thousands of hours.
Like I worked on like the breeding bird atlas from West Virginia.
I was doing 100 hours a week in the woods and all these other projects.
So I'm very aware of what's in this whole area.
So that was kind of it until that fall.
So like a few months later.
So that was around June.
So around September, October, it was like four in the morning because I'm a bit of a night out.
So I was just sitting here on my computer.
And then I started to hear what sounded like a hyena.
And I know it's not a coyote because I've since found a video from the U.S.
Fish and Wildlife Service, which I can send you to link to, that they're actually talking.
about these vocalizations that they caught and they're talking about Sasquatch and like how they
can't figure out like is that what this is because none of them knew what these exact sounds
I heard were and what was weird about it was I went over to the window and I was just listening
and as it sounded like it got closer I wasn't able to move it was like this wave of fear
hit me and it's probably the scariest I've ever been and it's crazy because I was on the
story of my house inside, but I couldn't almost physically move until eventually it got to the
point where I was almost crying. I was so scared. And then the noise just went away and then I could
start to move, which makes me wonder if that was some form of infrasound that hit me, because it
was very weird that I couldn't move. So after that, though, is really when things started to pick up.
So now we start getting
like odd bird calls at night
So what I mean is there'll be owls calling
But they're not owls
The voice is too deep
And the cadence and the rhythm is wrong
So typically like
You know if I degrade horn now
You'll get like one long or one short
And then a couple more after that
This isn't even doing the right amount of notes
Let alone the voice is too deep to be an owl
And at times it'll go from like to who
Who whoo hoo hooh
Then it'll turn a
like real deep at the end.
So that's clearly not an owl doing that sound.
And we'll get like other weird animal calls to like geese and other things coming from the woods.
And like there's no, there's not going to be a random goose living up in the woods.
And this kind of goes on until like early June of 2024.
So I've been trying to get back into shape just because I'm trying to be healthier.
And our property, like I said, it's a 20 acre.
it's mainly a like an open field and in the back left corner of that field there's like a little stand of woods before you hit the actual woods like there's a little like stretch of like clearing between it so it kind of goes it has a grade too like it kind of goes up into that corner but then as you go up to the right hand back corner it's really steep so it's a nice workout you get this gradual grade and then you come back down on like the right side and you just
do a circle and I think all together it's like a quarter mile or half a mile it gets a
piece a lot so what happened was I was walking back towards that corner towards where that
pond is and I noticed everything went dead silent and I mean dead silent no birds no bugs
nothing and that's really weird for that to be happening in like early summer late spring
you know when everything should be going crazy or something should be doing an alarm call you know some
kind of, you know, there's a whole bunch of different species like Blue Jays, you know,
there's a tough to tip mice, and something should be alarming to me coming back there,
but nothing.
So I thought that was weird that it got like quieter and quieter, the closer I got to that
pond.
So I just sat there at the pond for a second.
I'm like, this is, it just felt off.
And then that's when I heard, but sounded like I was convinced it was a,
person. But everything was so grown in at that time, I couldn't see, you know, what was walking
around, but it was clearly two legs because it sounded just like a huge person walking.
And it kind of freaked me out because nobody should be back there. All of our dogs are like
essentially like guard dogs. So everyone knows just don't come up here. I mean, we've got guns.
I mean, Southwest PA. So no one should be back there messing around. And it's a lot of
started to bother me because I said hello and there was no answer. So then I'm like, okay,
what do I do now? Because I'm convinced this is a person and I'm like, they're not answering.
And normally if there's someone out in the woods with you and they're not answering back,
they don't have good intentions. So I said, just so you know, I can hear you. I said,
I can't see you, but I can tell like the general area where you're at. I said, look, I live in that
house over there. I said, so I'm not far. Someone will come looking for me. I said, and the second
thing is, I'm not back here to cause problems. I said, I'm just going for a nature walk,
and I'm going to walk up to the opposite corner back here. There's a game cam that a family
friend has. I'm going to put the SD card back in it that I got yesterday. Because that was what
was weird was the day before everything was fine when I was back there. So still nothing. No one's
saying anything. There was no smells, though. So I didn't smell anything this time, but there was
something, like, you could tell it was over there because I could hear it moving around. So I said,
okay, I'm going to walk up here now. Still, you know, nothing's talking back to me. So I start to
walk up like the woodline, and I noticed, though, even though nobody's talking, it's paralleling me.
So I'm like, okay, I don't like this, because now not only is somebody, you know, my mind at this
time, not talking, but they're paralleling me.
So it's like they're stalking me.
So I keep walking up, and as I get closer to where, there's like this little watering
hole that they actually dug with a, I think, like a backhoe or something, and they put
the game camera out there, you know, to see, like, what would come up there.
So the closer I get to it, now I start to hear it's like a, you know, almost like something
smack in its chest, not like a rough grouse, but.
because that's a very, anyone that's heard those,
they know exactly what that sounds like.
This actually sounds like what I was just doing,
like something smack in the chest.
It was huge.
And then the, like, the bush starts shaking.
And that's when I start to hear,
you know, almost like the Sierra sounds,
but without, like, words to it.
So all this together is really confusing me
because I'm like, what is, I don't even know what's happening right now.
Because as a wildlife biologist,
I'm trying to rationalize this because, you know, it's like, well, that could be, you know, in my mind, I'm still thinking that could be rock to grouse.
But then what's going to shake the, you know, that's a huge bush that it's shaking.
And I'm like, I don't know what's going on right now.
And I was terrified because I'm like, there's something here that's enormous.
And you know, I did the dumbest thing I've probably ever done in my life, Jeremiah.
And anyone listening, dear God, don't ever do this.
You know, I'm like, ha ha, you know, maybe it's Sasquatch.
Well, that was dumb to take this as, like, not anything serious or that I was in a bad situation.
So what did I do?
I just laugh because this is so stupid.
Like, even if you don't know what the animal is, you should never, like, push to see,
oh, am I going to, you know, instigated it to do something?
I barred my teeth, like a chimp would.
and then I did the back to it
with, you know, smacking my chest.
That's what that noise is.
That was the biggest mistake
I've ever made. Whatever that was,
barreled through there then.
And it almost
got to where I could see it.
And I was like, nope.
I started the backup then.
I kept my eyes facing towards the woodline.
And I just walked slowly back.
And I just kept watching because I'm like,
I'm convinced at this point, I'm going to die.
Whatever that was.
was crashing through there and I could tell now this is no joke like things are real serious real quick and I just felt like whatever's here if it wants to I'm dead there's nothing I'm gonna do
because I know people say they've seen bear but none of this fits a bear like the snarling the shaking the thing I don't I've heard bear do weird noises and none of it like this
So I walk about 50 yards away.
I'm walking backwards now as I'm doing this back towards my house.
And this is by now I'm kind of going back towards,
there's a map I'm going to send Jeremiah for people on YouTube.
So it's kind of back towards the right-hand corner of the,
I guess if you're looking at the map,
it'll be towards the back left-hand corner.
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I'm kind of walking up the hill and backwards
so that I can come back down
because right now, the whole
thing is I grow into it with hay
because a friend comes and cuts it.
So I need to follow the path that's cut around
the edge so that I can get back down
to the house.
So I keep walking backwards
and eventually once I get about 100 yards away
from the woods, that's when I spin
and I start looking down the hill
but I keep looking back over my shoulder
because I'm convinced
something's going to run out
in those woods and it's going to grab me.
And by the time I got back to the house,
which I don't even know,
like how long this whole thing took,
I was so shaken by the time I got back down to the house,
my mom's like, I had a feeling something was wrong
because you've been gone a real long time.
I was white, I was shaking,
and I'm like, neither one of you are going to believe
what just happened.
And that's when I told them what had happened.
And I'm like,
but I don't understand how anything can hide like that out here.
And that's when my mom's boyfriend was like, oh, well, if you're standing at the back of our house,
it'd be like to your far left, back in those woods, he said there's a series of caves.
And they're big enough that you could probably put like a small, like tiny house in and live there.
So that's something I'm going to, I want to look into getting back there.
obviously with multiple people and possibly weapons for protection
and see like what's back at those caves
but that was like the main thing that's happened
and since then things have been really like escalating
so when I say escalating it's like now the
vocalizations are getting more more prominent
like they're they're getting more common
and you're starting to smell things now when you're outside
like there'll be times it's like you can hear something walking it's like a combination of like
I guess the best way to explain it is wet dog like something dead and I don't know what it's the
worst smell I've ever had in my life and the dogs will get freaked out at times like this too
because I put them out like we have them on a routine so I'll put them out like six
eight and ten and then that's it for the night
So normally this all starts around 10 o'clock, and then it'll go on.
Like I said, those vocalizations I heard were like four in the morning.
So that's been going on.
And then this last fall, like what had happened was we get a lot of UAAP stuff out here.
Like I've been in contact with like Stan Gordon, Tom King, and there's like a bunch of other people I've talked to.
given a moment and I've set you a link too to like to my online stuff that's like it's not public if anyone's wondering because it shows like where I live and everything but what's been happening now is like since this is all kind of exploded anytime I go out back to like to try to record anything because it's always the same area like where I got chased out we see orbs and lights and everything else it's really really weird that this is all seemingly connected you'll get vocalizations now that you'll get vocalizations now that you're
now and it'll sound like something's over to his woods getting pissed off that you're back there.
And it's kind of like run me out a couple times.
Like I'll hear it.
It's that weird owl sound again, but there'll be multiples.
And sometimes it's not just an L.
Like what I had caught on Christmas this year was there's a video.
First, I put the dogs out.
And they were acting weird and we were hearing stuff.
And then I was like, no, I'm not dealing with this.
So what happened was I went and I got the, I forgot a flashlight.
It's like a law enforcement style.
It's like a million candles or something crazy.
And I come back out.
And as you come up our driveway, it used to be a house.
It's like a one-room house, basically.
But it's a wood shop now.
You hear something vocalized down there.
And then immediately in front of me, it sounds like a red-tailed hawk.
And then like over to my light,
a blue jay so it's like one two three like all together like boom boom boom they all vocalized and
I'm like those birds would never at like 10 o'clock in night plus a blue jane whatever the first one was
which I'm kind of saying like four letter words because by this time I'm like super shaking up
and then something's walking behind me you could hear it it did pick up on the recorder on my phone
back behind you back by the garage
and that's what I'm like okay time to go back in
I mean that scared me enough that I just went back inside
and I didn't go back out
it was around
this was right after this
that would have been this fall
another thing that happened this fall
because it's kind of like been slowly building
like vocalizations
and then something like that will happen
now the one time I did see something
and this is the only time I've seen
something. This was around, I want to say it was around October. It was this fall, but I'm not
sure on the date. It was around 8 in the morning. I came down because I'm staying up in the attic,
which is a finished attic. As soon as you come down the stairs, like immediately in front of it
is a window. So normally when I come down, I just book out to see, you know, is there anything
out there like just normal stuff. What I saw on the tree line, which is about 150 years,
yards or so if I remember correctly looking at Google Maps from our house. So it's a decent
ways back there. It almost looked like it was a bush, but then I'm like, that's, that's huge.
And then the thing that confused me was that's never been there before. So I'm like, why is there,
it was like a golden, a really dark, almost like fall leaves color. The best color that I can
describe it as, it's somewhere being like fall leaves.
in that alleged video of the Sasquatch
that someone took in Colorado from the train
had that weird like brown
you know like
that foliage to it was somewhere
between those two colors
so I'm looking at it all confused
because I'm like where did that come from?
Like there's not just going to be a bush that appears
so I grabbed the inoculars
and I started looking at it
and I'm like that almost
looks like it's a body and it comes up
to where a head would be
but I don't see a face.
And then I got to thinking, I'm like, well, wait a minute.
One of our friends just came out and put a tree stand up, like, right over in that area.
And he has no idea because I don't, you know, I'm not really talked to family friends about this.
Because, you know, more alive and probably think than I'm crazy.
But he put that tree stand up right back by that pond where the initial, like, interaction with me or whatever started taking place.
And I'm wondering if it wasn't over in that area, just too.
checking it out like, you know, like, what the heck?
Why are you back here?
Like, who's doing this stuff, putting stuff up now?
So I saw it, and I thought about waking my mom up because I'm like,
somebody else needs to see this.
Like, it didn't even dawn on me to get a picture or anything, which that's,
honestly, my biggest regret is not getting anything on film this time.
So I decided, wake up a minute.
Make sure you're seeing what you're seeing, because, you know, maybe it is, you know,
you're just tired.
So I go and do my normal, like, wake-up routine, you know, coffee, the whole thing.
I come back and I look again and it's gone.
And I'm like, well, that doesn't make sense because if it was some kind of a big bush or tree or something,
it's not just going to not be there now.
But that's the only time I've had like an absolute, like, I saw something that shouldn't be there.
And it's like, I don't know.
A lot of the stuff that goes on out here is vocalizations.
and some of them are really weird.
I've got my notes up
because I like keep meticulous notes on all this stuff.
So like back in October it says the 29th,
we had weird stuff going on
and it says the neighbor's dogs were freaking out.
And then I know a couple days after that,
yeah, on the 28th,
it sounded like a huge crow,
like it was super deep in sound.
So pick your crow, but then like take it down like six decibels,
starting at the call, like behind same area now,
behind my neighbor's house that's like down our driveway.
And then it sounded like,
I'm assuming it was something on two feet
because a crow's not that deep.
It sounds like this, like it keeps like vocalizing.
It goes across the road.
And then the neighbor's dogs start going insane.
It's like down the hill from us.
So whatever it was crossed the road and cut back through like their yard.
And at the same time, there's a farm across the road from us.
It sounded like something, what?
It sounded like a cow, but it was super deep.
And it did this, it was so weird.
It was like moo, you know, like a normal move, but then it went, moo, who, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh.
Right after the crow started across the road.
So it was like, one, it was like boom, boom.
Like the crow, and then the whatever that,
cow thing was, answered it back.
And that freaked my dogs out, too, which I always
take note of how the animals act, because I'm like,
maybe it's just me, you know, thinking I'm hearing
something, but when your animals, like, alert, you know,
or they start getting quiet or acting weird, that's when
you should probably start paying attention to what you're experiencing
because there is something to that then, because animals will
know if there's a predator or something weird around.
And that's kind of been like the theme of this.
Thank God I've had my.
camera with me because I've had my phone
and I've had the dogs so I can
record it and we can see the dogs
are acting weird for a lot of this stuff.
That was actually the third of
December is when
we got the vocalization
of like the goose up in the woods
and like that would
why would there be one
goose just one up in the woods
and it doesn't start calling until I walk over
towards that fence line. It's 10 o'clock
at night. Like, that doesn't make sense.
I mean, if it was back up, like, way
in the woods of that pond maybe, but not
in the woods itself. Like,
that's a field in the woods.
I don't know. There's so much out here
like this. It just doesn't make sense.
And I've never
had any location
like this. It's like,
I don't know what's going on
because
I don't know. I don't know how to quantify all this
stuff because it just doesn't make sense
because you know you try to rationalize it
because you know it's Cagotis or it's this or it's that but then
it's like if you actually know anything about like biology or like
your animals and stuff you quickly realize well it's not this because
the sounds are off or the time of days off
or like we don't have that animal we've never seen
that here you know like there's just so many weird
things that go on here
and one of the things that I decided to do
after the Christmas situation
where it was right before Christmas
we have a spot on our property
where we dump like our food scraps for whatever to eat
it's not even close to the house
but there's like a huge drop-off
so what I decided to do was
there were apples that I needed to throw out
and I decided well instead of just throwing them on the ground
while I put them on this pile of wood that we have this cut here
and where I put it, you have to, like, you would have to reach up from below to actually grab where the apples are.
Like, I took pictures and everything in a little video explaining what I was doing because it had just snowed, too.
My thought was, with all this crazy stuff going on, let's just put, it's going to be there anyhow, so it's not like I'm gifting.
So I'll just put it in a location where you have to have arms to reach it.
I did that, and those apples sat there for like five days and two.
that night we're all hell broke loose and I got those vocalizations like the multiple
birds that I said were answering back and like kind of chased me in the house the next day
the apples were gone but I didn't find any tracks and it I think what makes this so weird is
it's like there's the UAP stuff that we get there's no rhyme or reason than when we have it
but we'll get it and I've caught I mean I have 40 gigs of video and everything from out
here so it's not like you know a few things here and there we're getting all kind of
kinds of crazy stuff.
Then you've had add in the possible
Sasquot stuff.
I've recently found out that a neighbor that's about
a mile from me
had one of their horses attacked by a
giant black cat. So I'm trying
to figure out who that was
and can I talk to them.
And what makes this
location so interesting to me, Jeremiah,
is I've talked to Stan Borden
several times.
And he had even said it that seems
that there's a, there's
some kind of connection between black cats,
UAP, or
orbs even, and then
Sasquatch, but we don't know what they are.
And I've looked into like
all kinds of like, you know, could it be
I'm seeing like,
you know, stuff monitoring like wells
or this or that and like, no, we can
rule out all this stuff. So I don't
know what is about this location,
but there's really a lot of weird
stuff going on. And what
makes it hard is I'm trying to do this scientifically
because I don't rule out any like the
crazier stuff. You know, they can
like portals and then whatever. I don't
know. I'm open. I think when you do science, you have to be
open and I've been trying to approach
all this as scientifically
as I can because we can't talk about the crazy stuff
until we get science to actually accept
hey, this is real and there's something
going on here. So that's the angle I'm coming at
it from. And what I'm going to be doing is this
week I'm going to start ordering my stuff.
I'm going to get
they're called song meters
so we use them like in orithology
like if you're doing a bird study
you can put them out and they'll record
you're just audio recorders but they're four
wildlife stuff
so you can put those out and they'll record
actual bird songs you can either
have them on 24 7 or set
a certain time
and I'm going to
put four of those out and then
I'm going to
I'm going to use three game cams
and we're going to see if we catch anything.
And with the game cam is what I'm going to do.
I think it was Darrell Denton.
I don't know if you've talked to him or not.
He does a lot of stuff that land between the lake.
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I have, yeah.
He suggested because he thinks that they can see in for red.
So he said what he's been doing is
He takes those
You know the dividers you can get for like trapper keepers
So like the see-through plastic
He said get the blue ones and cut them
And put them over the infrared emitter
And he's had better luck
Getting like visual stuff with that
So that's what I'm going to do
Like this spring
I'm going to get those out and I'm going to see like
I'm going to canvas this whole area
And see what can I get audio and visual
because I have a feeling
I'm going to be able to actually catch stuff
with as often as this is happening
and I mean that's
kind of where it's at now
and I know
like the other stuff that I've talked to stand
about this fall he said someone
he won't tell me where obviously
but he did say somewhere in Washington County
which isn't far from me that
someone saw four juvenile
Sasquox just walking through the woods
And he said they were like me, he said they're a very credible witness.
Like he completely believed their story.
So I know they're in the area as far as like this general area.
And there was even, I think it's from 79.
There's a BFRO report, which has an audio recording too where it sounds like you hear something almost doing like the Ohio how.
And then a dog's barking.
And then all of a sudden the dog stops.
And they said that it killed their dog.
that's just like a couple miles from where I'm at.
So that's like,
it makes me wonder, though,
that's just the one,
that's just one,
you know,
historical event.
Like how many of these do people actually go through
that they just don't tell anybody?
And I'm sure you probably,
you probably realize a lot of people don't tell anybody anything,
you know,
if they ever do sometimes for years.
I just,
I have a feeling that this is going to, when people contact you,
then there's probably going to be a lot in this general area that have seen things
that haven't gone public.
And that's, it kind of brings me to a project idea I have that's really for like the whole U.S.
Because, you know, nothing like being a little, a little ambitious.
What I'd like to do, I don't need, like, locations, like, specifically or, like, names.
if you've seen the Sasquatch,
what I'd like to know is what color was it
and what county was it in,
like the state that that was in.
Because if we're trying to prove
that these are real,
there should be some kind of a pattern
to like the color and like maybe
even the size, like if you could estimate
like the size of it.
Because I know with like birds and stuff
like northern flickers,
like in the north they have like
the red shafts so they've got red on their feathers
but in the south they've got yellow.
so there should be some kind of patterns to this
that we can find out like for their fur color
and everything else based on
you know where they're at like elevation
things like that that'll help
I guess add to the data that this is a real animal
and like I told you before we recorded
if anybody wants to get a hold of me
you can give them like my contact
and so
like my email address and everything
because I would really like to get a hold
of other researchers and talk about
doing that project
and like just maybe even investigating
other areas in southwestern PA too
because like I said I was feeling that there's a lot of people
that see things that don't talk
because I know my mom's seeing things
like lights, she's been seeing lights out here
for over a decade and then I saw
on the National UFO Reporting Center
that other people from my actual town
have been saying like I hope someone else has seen these lights
and that was over a decade ago
and she's heard like
Women screaming in the woods and all kinds of stuff out here that I didn't even know about until after I started experiencing it.
But I know it's a lot.
I didn't even cover like any of the UAP stuff because there's just so much crazy stuff for that.
And I've got like six different softwares that I use for track things that I can roll stuff out with before I'm like, oh, yeah, this is weird.
But that's kind of like what's been going on out here.
so I don't know if you have any questions for me or not.
I absolutely do.
Yeah.
It's a lot.
I've been following along with your Google Earth file that you gave me access to,
which is very interesting when you're able to see it.
And so, okay, first off, so it sounds like we are saying this area is in the same area or region.
as Washington County and we're leaving it as as that pretty much right yeah okay cool um
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If I was in your shoes in this area,
you're in an interesting area with a lot of woods.
Yes.
There's not too many people to talk to about what's going on in those woods.
And I don't know if you've ever thought to reach out to those,
that small number of individuals that are in,
public record.
Well, that's the thing.
Like the BFRO account, of course, doesn't say who it was.
It'll just have, like, a first name.
But I'm like, that was from 79.
So I'm like, I don't even know if that person's even still alive, you know,
a little lives around here now.
I guess I'm saying more like if you're experiencing stuff on your property,
uh, these,
these other places,
they've got to have stuff going on.
oh, they have to.
Yeah.
Like, I would like to ask, but I guess the thing is, I just don't know how to approach people.
I mean, how do you approach and you like, hey, you know, I heard, like, I've been trying to think of how to find out who that person's horse was that it was the daily got attacked by the black cat.
But I'm like, well, if I do find out who it is, so I just say, like, hey, you know, like, I heard your horse got attacked by a black cat.
like I guess it's just because the weirdness of everything.
I'm trying to figure out how to approach people without like making myself sound
crazier by like scaring them off, you know?
Yeah, I know.
No, I get it.
It's like, I mean, I hear a lot of people use the,
hey, ever experienced anything weird around here?
I mean, you got to have the way of talking to the person.
You just don't want to knock on their door and be like, hey, let's talk about weird stuff.
Although, I guess maybe sometimes it does work.
I don't know.
You got to know your area, right?
Like the culture in your area.
I'm thinking about getting like business cards made with the email address.
I contacted you.
Nice.
The proton one.
Okay.
And just giving that to people and being like, if you or anyone you know has anything weird in this area, you know, this is completely, you can even do it anonymously.
So that's actually.
Contact me.
That's super smart.
That's kind of what I do, too.
and once you become the guy
that's known for the weird stuff about your area
or another area,
now with the internet and things,
you don't have to live in the area
to become the guy for that area,
which is really interesting to think about.
Right.
But yeah, that might point you in the right direction.
Excuse me
When you talk to Stan Gordon about this
What was his reaction?
Was it like, yeah, it makes sense for that area
Or he's like, oh, this is very unique.
Now, this is very interesting
Because like, you know, I emailed him initially
four years ago when I saw the UAP
Because I'm like, he said, you know,
typically people don't tell me
And I think I just kind of went into shock
And I kind of just reverted back into, okay, science this.
So I got like all the weather
data and just typed immediately what happened.
And I was, I was kind of
like panicked and shocked because I've never
experienced anything like that before.
So then four years later
when I contacted, he's like, oh, I'm wanting to talk
to you, you know, because you're a background
and everything. And then I
explain, you know, like what's been going on with
the Sasquot stuff. And he said,
yeah, I'm not surprised. He said that area
he said Washington County in general,
you know, that whole surrounding area, that's a hotbed.
He said, there's all kinds of
stuff. He said,
fact someone just saw for juvenile
Sasquatch in Washington County
alone he said like this fall
he said I can't give you any more info
but I said you know
I have a feeling that there's
a lot that goes on just
in this general area he said oh there is
he said that he had actually talked
to the PA
game commission like he's talked to them
like actual like a professional like
he went and did presentations on
like UAP
Sasquatch black cats like a bunch of stuff
he's like so they're well aware and they aren't interested in this he said and i have a feeling
that they know more than what they're telling too really because he said you know because he said
you know you've worked on because i mean i can just come out here and just say like what i did i worked
when i was going to cow i was working with it was my department chair at the time but we were doing
like wetlands restoration work so i worked for like friends of fish and wildlife like hose
Terracito was like the guy that ran that.
So it was like technically through the U.S. fish,
hell of it was U.S. Fish and Wallach for the game commissioners.
One of them was technically overseeing it.
And then I worked for him specifically, you know?
And Stan said, what would have happened, you know,
if you had told someone when you were at work,
you know, like the Satskwat stuff or the UAP stuff,
and I said, Stan, they didn't come out and say it,
but just how they reacted to other stuff,
I said, if I just said anything like that, I wouldn't have had a job.
And they had just laughed me off the site.
Oh, wow.
And I realized, like, how close-minded some of these people were, because we were at the site.
And the girls, one of the girls I was working was said, you know, there's a bluegill in this wetland.
And the guy in charge was like, well, there can't be.
You know, we didn't put any fish here.
But there was a creek that ran right next to it.
So, you know, when it floods, everything gets pulled into the wetlands.
And then you have, you know, water file that can, like, carry it.
and stuff too.
And I'm like, well, first off, you know, how do you know there's nothing here?
So I walked over and I looked and I'm like, I'm looking right out at the bluegill.
And it took me to do that and him to come over and physically look at it to even believe
that something as simple as a blue deal was where it shouldn't be.
So I'm like, I don't know how to even make headway them with something like this, you know,
if they're that close-minded, that they won't even believe that there's like a simple
bluegill in a wetland.
That is some wild stuff.
can't imagine working in a situation.
It is.
And it was very frustrating, like, between like that and then, like, you know, the politics,
because I'd have to do, like, grant proposals and all kinds of, like, it was a very stressful
job.
That's the only reason I don't do it anymore, like, for my main income is just because of the stress.
Like, the work, the field work and everything in the lab work, I love.
I can do that all day.
It's just the other stuff to it.
Absolutely. I want to ask about potential things happening around the property, just to double check.
Remind me, at any time, have you seen tracks around the property?
No, and that's the surprising part.
But a lot of this ground is really hard because when my mom's boyfriend bought the property,
I guess it used to be essentially like a junkyard.
So like a lot of this area is like hard clay and things like that.
So I don't know how easy it would be to leave tracks.
Maybe like up in the woods you could because the ground's a little softer.
But like around the house and everything,
they even have a hard time putting gardens in every year just because of the soil itself.
Okay.
So you used to be a good chunk.
I keep working.
Yeah.
That's really interesting.
Have you ever looked to see if you can figure out.
who the previous owner of that junkyard was
and maybe see if they're still alive to talk to them.
I do know they're not alive.
Oh, okay.
Because he was very, he was like in his 80s
when my mom's boyfriend bought it,
and that was like back in, well, back in the 80s.
Okay.
Like the guy actually built,
the guy actually built the house
and all the stuff out here.
Another fun thing you can do is sometimes areas
will have
they'll have
history
themed
Facebook groups
for certain
areas of the
country
so you find
see if you have
one for this
area or like
strange stuff
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The one group I did find, like,
I have a podcast, too.
I don't know if you know the guys from wild
I think it's wild and weird West Virginia.
Oh, yeah, Joe and Rob.
Yeah, because they knew the whole area.
And apparently the bird guide that I wrote that I sent you up on Amazon,
they used for the West Virginia like master naturalist program.
Okay.
That kind of blew my mind.
I'm like, you use my bird guide.
I didn't say anyone even did anything with it.
That's awesome.
Wow.
But I've been talking to them because like, you know,
they cover all West Virginia,
but especially like around like the tri-state area.
Like there's people in the group and stuff.
So I've been keeping tabs too
and weird stuff that they've been reporting.
On the property,
do you find a lot of like
broken trees,
kind of like twisted off trees
or bent over trees?
Any weird stuff like that?
That's going to be what I look for this spring
because the B-11,
if I haven't been back in those woods
since I was chased out,
I was that terrified.
Oh, yeah, right.
Makes sense.
But this spring,
this spring I'm going back
because I just bought a book.
I can't remember who wrote it,
but it's a book on tree structures
for like supposed
Sasquatch.
So I'm going to use that and,
you know, take a camera back with me and everything
and see like what I can find.
But that's the next stage
is like deploying like all the recorders and stuff
and going back in that general area
and looking and seeing if I can find anything.
It's just waiting on the weather to break a little bit
because we keep getting all this snow.
Yeah, absolutely.
I mean, those recorders you were talking about
are very, very
effective from other researchers
that I've talked to. They're worth getting
they
will give you some
quality audio. So that
is a great idea. And they're super
affordable now, too. If anyone
like is interested in getting these,
like I'm getting the bird song
Micro, it's less than
$200 a recorder.
So like anyone can afford
that. I mean, that's, they
used to be really expensive to get stuff to do like bird surveys and everything but now it's
come down and price so much to it's extremely affordable um i wanted to check about some other type of
sounds to see if you've heard them on the property um have you ever heard anything that would
resemble uh a metallic type of sound or a baby crying or something calling the names of people that
live on the property or voices that you know.
No, but my, but my mom did.
Oh, boy.
She said she heard, and I'm trying to, I'm going to, like, really kind of try to
press her on this, because I know she doesn't like to talk about this stuff,
but she did tell me that they heard it sound like a woman screaming.
I don't know if she was just screaming, screaming for help or what, coming from the woods one night,
that her, her and her boyfriend both heard that.
And I know he's lived out here for 30 years, and we do have, like,
Bobcat stuff, but he knows what this all sounds like, you know.
It's like, there's times I'll play him a recording.
He's like, yeah, I don't know what that is.
Okay.
Yeah, exactly.
So I'm going to guess that probably at this point,
and I didn't see any in everything that you sent over or gave me access to you.
So you don't have recordings of anything yet, right?
I have that one from Christmas.
So I just, I don't know if I, I don't know if I added that yet.
I'm going to, I'll make sure tonight I'm going to get everything uploaded that I have.
They were like messing with the dogs.
They what freaked me out was our one dog kept trying to walk over towards that area.
So I'm like, are they, my concern was they're trying to lure my dogs away.
Because I know I keep hearing that they don't like dogs.
And I'm worried that they're going to try to get the one because she's so, she likes everybody.
She probably, if she thought it was a person, would run right over to it.
You know, that was really why I came back out.
That's why I came back out with the flashlight because I'm like, I'm not having this, you know.
I don't care if they're out here, just stay away from the house and don't mess with my animals.
You actually do have it in there.
Do you mind if I play the audio from it real quick?
All right, I don't know what is going on tonight.
But I'll tell you this.
Please tell me that just caught on camera.
There was something walking.
You hear that?
You hear the owl starting now?
there's something back in
all right
that was an eagle
or hawk
time to go back in
because there's at least four of them out here
yeah there was like
definitely a sound
that bird sound should not have been
that that time of day
that's crazy
no no those birds should be talking
to one another like that
and like I said
it sounds like there was something behind me
that's why I'm like please tell me
you caught that because it was over towards a garage
like I can hear something that sound like a person walking.
And then when you hear those other three sounds in front of me, I'm like,
oh, I don't like this, you know what I mean?
It's like I felt surrounded.
Gotcha.
Yeah, that's the kind of stuff that's like starting to happen now,
and I don't like that because I, you know,
I don't want to have to shoot anything,
but I'm like, I'm at to the point where it's like,
I'll defend us, but I'm not going to go, like, just shoot one, you know what I mean?
But I will defend, like, our animals or myself, I have to.
I mean, anyone should do that.
Yeah, I mean, you...
I just don't want that to escalate to that.
That's not needed, you know what I mean?
Like, keep the area, I'll keep the mind and we can coexist just fine.
Yeah, I think coexisting is a good goal.
And I definitely wouldn't recommend putting any food out or anything like that.
And that just usually leads to that time.
Absolutely not.
Yeah.
Yes.
And I'm going to always make sure, too, that I'm respectful when I'm in the woods.
You know, like I said that day,
like I'm not here to cause problems.
You know, I told them what I was doing.
Because I do think that they understand a lot more
than what people give them credit for.
Oh, it is a definite high intelligence
from what I've picked up from talking to people
about this for a few years.
It's high.
I think they're as smart as us.
I really do.
Absolutely.
I do want to also point out
what you had said about
when you got chased out and you had
because you had pretty much
beat your chest in response
I just want to echo that
I... Oh, you know what?
That might escalated things now I think about.
That could have been seen as a challenge.
Oh yeah, totally.
Yeah. And I will say that
because I've done the same thing, unfortunately, in Iowa
last year.
And I, he's probably listening.
And brother, you're great, but I'm never, we're going to leave it at that.
But you're a great individual, but I'm never doing it again.
Because what happened to me afterwards is I started to experience what I interpret as being hit by Infrasound multiple times.
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And it was just an experience.
I will never, ever do that again.
So guys, don't do that.
Please.
It's not good.
Yeah.
Not good.
As a scary night, we also ended up...
Yes.
It was 2 a.m. and our tent poles broke.
And the tent came down on top of us.
New tent.
Very warm.
That's a bad night.
Yeah, it's a bad night.
So that is what it is.
But, I mean, no one got hurt, but it's just, it's very weird.
Oh, here's something else I wanted to ask you.
So you've got a lot of weird things happening on the property.
Right.
Is the weird stuff sticking outside or has it started to influence things inside the house as well?
Just outside.
Okay, good.
I've been real, real, I've been trying to really, like, pay attention to that, too, because I've, you know, I'm well aware of, I listen to a lot episodes of your stuff and a lot of other stuff.
So I'm well aware of, like, what to watch for.
Yeah, it's, it's, it's very interesting.
It is, I think it's part of the conversation.
I honestly do, because, and I don't know why, and I don't know if.
anyone knows why yet, but just I noticed patterns from conversations over the years.
And more often than not, someone experiences or has an interaction with a big foot out in the
field and they can bring stuff home or stuff can start happening at home, it's really weird.
So I think that's definitely part of the talk.
So I'm glad that it's whatever is that connection, is staying.
outside and stay out there.
So it'd be interesting to hear
what you're able to capture
once you put the
song meters out. That will
be extremely interesting.
One thing I thought about
doing is because Darrell had talked about how they like
I think it was Darrell talked about they like glow sticks.
Well, I found you can buy those ones that you're supposed to use
like an emergency to last 24 hours.
So I'm like,
what if where I put those game cams
if I set one of those somewhere,
like where you can see it on the game cam,
I wonder if I'll,
I mean,
I don't expect to catch anything video-wise, to be honest.
But I'm like,
if I put one at each of those spots,
will I ever catch anything grabbing it
or just moving? You know what I mean?
Yeah, I think that would be a cool experiment
for sure.
Matt,
this is going to be really interesting to see, you know, what happens when you start being able to get, you know, some recordings and maybe, you know, start to have some researchers come and check it out.
It sounds like you are definitely wanting, if there's researchers in the area, to contact you about this area, right?
Yes. Yes, because I would love to have, like, some, like, legit researchers.
maybe they would have more equipment, you know, like a parabolic or anything like that.
That would be interesting to get out here too to see if we can catch anything during these nights.
Like through a parabolic, like, you know, like a parabolic microphone and stuff.
Absolutely.
Because I don't know. Maybe there's other stuff on frequencies too that I can't pick up on my ears so we can pick up.
But yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing like what exactly.
I'm going to catch out here if any.
We will definitely check back in.
And if you're able to, you know, I'd love to hear if you're able to get some interesting recordings,
which I'm sure that you will.
But, you know, Matt, it has been great chatting with you on the show today.
And thank you for coming on.
I do have a few other things I want to talk to you off air about.
But, yeah, thank you so much for coming on, man.
Yeah, not a problem.
Thank you so much for having me.
And like I said, if anybody wants to reach out, Jeremiah has my email address.
I'm more than willing for him to give that to you.
So just go ahead and just probably put in the subject like, you know,
Sasquatch or something like so I know like that it's someone from, you know,
that you're getting a hold of me through Jeremiah.
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