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Episode Date: December 1, 2024

Note: These were originally aired as Episodes 358 and 359 of Bigfoot Society in 2023.Mark, a hunter and fisherman from eastern Texas, recounts a series of unsettling encounters with a mysterious creature near Lake Fork. He describes witnessing deer acting strangely, spotting a tall, black, fluidly moving figure he initially mistook for a hog, finding large tracks, and hearing strange whistles and noises. Mark's stories are enriched by his sketches and attempts at photographing the creature.Mark discovered a deer skeleton in a tree fork and witnessed potential Bigfoot interactions with local wildlife, raising the question of what truly inhabits the woods. Meanwhile, Dan from Reynolds County, Missouri, details a different kind of eerie experience. In the dense forests near Johnson's Shut-Ins State Park, his family has heard blood-curdling screams, experienced rock throws, and consistently encountered tree knocks. Dan and his daughter recount multiple unnerving incidents, including trailing eerie sounds while hunting and experiencing silences broken by heavy footsteps. Both Mark and Dan's detailed recollections offer a fascinating glimpse into unexplained phenomena, raising questions about the mysterious creatures that may inhabit these remote regions.🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Share your Bigfoot encounter with me here: [e-mail] to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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We've got the privilege of talking to Mark tonight. He's a hunter in fishermen from eastern Texas. How's it going tonight, Mark? It's going good. How about you? It's going great. We're already talking a little bit before this, and I'm excited to talk to you about what you've been

been experienced down in eastern Texas? I've ever done for a living is hunting fish, and I've been spent lots of times on the water and lots of times in the woods, and never thought in my life would encounter anything where it's been. Are you able to share the area of eastern Texas that these encounters take place in? We have the most famous lake in the world, which is Lake Fork. There's a big bottom that goes from Lake Fork to Tawakeney. there's just a big bottom there and uninhabited and everything else

and that's where my recent encounters have happened Gotcha and if you were looking at this on a map Lake Fork would be east of Dallas It looks like How far back does this happen This last encounter was probably Let's see we're in November So I'd say

Probably June Because I was just putting out cameras for my deer to see them eating on the protein and kind of, I give them names and stuff like that as they're growing up. Gotcha. Mark, what I'm going to do is I'm going to just let you do what you do best and just do you mind sharing your story of what happened? I'd love for people to know more about it because I'm always optimistic. and this world has so many questions that are unanswered, and I don't want to ever feel like I'm making anything up or anything like that because this just happened out of the occurrence,

and there's strains. And just back up just a little bit. I carried a marine biologist one time, and I was telling him my story, and he said, Mark, he said, you'd be shocked at what we pulled out of the ocean. sometimes and I said, well, I can't imagine what's in those woods. Backing up to my encounter, I'm putting out my game cams in the summer because I know these deer are in velvet, and I want to watch and see how many bucks

I've got coming through my property. So I'm just lolly-jagging around through the woods, the middle of the day, about 11 o'clock because my goal was to put my camera out and go eat lunch, and because I normally start my morning's about 5 o'clock, whether I'm working or not. and I'm walking across the pond down and look up and I see a deer coming at me and I'm thinking, that's weird. And it went to my ride about 60 yards. I walked a few more steps and then here come another one.

And I thought, man, it's 40 yards. I thought, that's pretty weird. Y'all should be going the other direction. My deer are semi-tame, I say that. They see me a lot so they're not just terrified of me. to run at me. That's a little bit interesting. As I'm walking across my pond dam

and I've got my cellular camera in my hand. I don't like carrying my phone in the woods because if you're out there putting up tree ladders or deer stands and ladder stands, I don't want to lose my pole in the woods because I'd never find it. So I just don't even carry it and this. I'm

in my side by side. But I do have my cellular camera that sends pictures back to my cell phone in my hand. I'm going across the put it up across the pond. I looked up after these deer come at me, and I had cut a limb off of a cedar tree that was about face high when you were in a side-by-side,

and I'd turn this tore on my trail that slapped me in the face, so I'd cut it off, and I just threw it down on the ground right there, and this little oatman, this little oatman's about the side of two pickup trucks. And as I walked across the pond dam, I looked up. In the woods, you're going to be looking for movement at any time. And so I look up and I see something black in front of me and I'm thinking, it's a pig. I've got a lot of wild hogs in that bottom.

First thing goes through my mind is it's a hog because it's black and it's low to the ground. I take a few more steps and this thing went from ground level to a linebacker position. And I was just like, what the heck? because hogs don't stand on their high legs or hogs don't grow like that. They usually skimish and run off. And then I looked at it again and it stood up and it turned around so smoothly from facing me to putting its back toward me just like it was so fluid.

And at that point, I don't know, I was going to John Wayne because I just threw the camera down, pull my pocket knife, and went running after it. and at this time, I'm 30 yards when I take off running, and it's 30 yards from me. It steps in those woods, and I just, it disappeared. I couldn't believe how fast it got away from my vision. Now, my woods ain't completely thick, but I should have been able to see this thing for at least 100 yards before it crossed my fence row, and I never seen it again at that point.

I went back to my cabin, pulled out a pen and some paper, and I drew a sketch of what I had just seen because it was fresh on my mind. And I was flustered pretty good because I was just like, I'm not supposed to be seeing this here. I went back and got a tape measure after I drew the picture up on a piece of paper, and I knew where it walked beside this tree. I went over to that tree and I measured to where I've seen a knot. The last visual I've seen is it walked by this tree was the knot that I cut a limb off was even with its right here. Now, I didn't see no ears. It was too hairy to see any ears.

But about where I would assume the ear would have been on its right side. And I thought when I first seen it get up, to be honest with you, I thought it was five, maybe six feet tall. And I'm about five, ten, five or less. When I got to the tree and measured it, I was the little socket, it measured at 6-6 at the right earhole. So that would have put the top of the head about, I'd say, close to 7, somewhere in that range. And I started looking around and I found three sets of tracks where it went in, and you can see the depression in the ground, and you can see where it smashed the pine needles down. Keep you see no toes, but you can see the outline of the foot, but no toes, because it's just,

It was good hard ground. What's funny is one of the tracks sunk in, and I stood right beside that track, and I couldn't sink the dirt in. Evidently, I'm 250. If you didn't look heavier than me, but it was because of that one step, and I couldn't make it go down. A few days goes by, and I'm out again, and I'm going up that little trail on the side-by-side, and I just see a black flash.

This is large from where I seen it go into that tree. And it goes across the trail. It was so fast. It was like if you blinked your eyes, somebody just threw a football across the snow. That's how fast it went across the trail. And I never said it go through the woods or nothing again. And I was just, at that point, I was just like,

golly, now I've seen it twice. I said, this is, I'm going to get it. I'm going to get a picture of it somehow. So I had 10 gang cans out. I'm thinking, if you walk through my property, I'm going to catch you on one of them, somewhere, somehow. And I kept waiting to get a picture about four days later. I'm going through there to check my cameras. And I see it on my neighbor's property, just on my back fence.

And I was able to pull my phone up and snap a picture. And it's a pretty interesting picture. and it looks just like what I've seen walk away from me four days prior, or three or four days prior. And that's the last that I've seen it. Now, what's interesting is opening morning of deer season, on rifle season, I was listening, and I've heard these things supposedly whistle. I'm not sure if that's any truth of that or not. but I heard three whistles that morning in the woods,

and they were several hundred yards apart, and it's just a one. It's all. If you had a buddy deer hunting, you'd go, I'm over here, I'm over here, and it's just a step of whistle. I heard those three whistles in a triangle area, and they come together,

and you can tell when they got closer, they whizzled until they got closer, and it could have been people for that matter. I don't know. But then I heard the dog gone. You remember the old bugwash a commercial, but he used to go, ah, or something like that? Yeah.

It was kind of, ah, no way. It's what it sounded like. It's like, yeah. And I was like, what? And then the next thing I know, I heard it, like two more noises, weird sound. I can't even try to do it. I can't even tell you what it sounds like.

It wasn't a whoop or whatever. But it went back down in this. bottom toward the lake. All this is happening pretty much in that one little corner of my property. I've got pretty heavy cameras in there, but I'm still waiting on the next encounter. But I want to back up one thing in 2020 where I had my game cameras out. I was checking cameras one day, and I went through the pictures, and I seen two pigs in the middle of the day, and they're running. And I'm thinking, I'm always looking to see what my deer are running. from or my hogs are running from. Well, it's a cow or hog dogs or whatever. And I go to the next

frame, the next picture, and I see this thing coming up out of, I got a little creek that runs through my place. And I see this thing coming up out of the creek. It's 60 feet in front of my camera might even be a little further, but it's pretty good ways. And I showed it to Jeff Melgram. Most people in the Bigfoot world know Jeff Meldrum. He thought it was pretty interesting. I showed him some of the tracks I found. He thought it was pretty interesting. But it looks like a gorilla. That's all I can tell you. It looks just like a gorilla. It's on its knees, and it's coming up out of that creek, and it's got a big old gray nose, and he's got nostrils you can put your thumb in. It's crazy. I'll shoot you all the crickers I got,

because that right there, some people go, that's a bird. I ain't never seen pigs run from a bird, and I can't make out a bird of it. I'm not saying a gorilla more than anything. Everybody has zoomed it in, said it's a gorilla. And at one point in the picture, let's just say you put your thumb or your fingers in your pocket, like your right pocket, or if you just put your finger, your hand on your waist, how your little pinky kind of pops out. I can do it right now.

I'm just putting my pressure on my right pocket of my leg, and my pinky just sticks straight out. I'm not even trying to. It just sticks out. In this picture of what looks to be a gorilla, you can see a finger. You can see a gray finger. It's the only thing it can be. You can follow the arm all the way down, and there's the finger.

There's the finger sticking out there. I don't want to be the pinky, but you can see the finger. To say I have something, I've got a neighbor across the street. I sell him the pictures. He's got a little bit more records than I did. He was intrigued by them, and we're going to keep our eyes out and see what happens next. Dr. Meldrum has seen the photo. Your neighbor has.

It doesn't sound like this has been on the Internet at all. No. Yeah, that would be very interesting to see that. So going back to when you had seen the creature, would you be able to talk through what you drew of the creature, what details you might remember? Yeah, like I can see you. I took a picture of my little drawing, which if any of the listeners right now have ever watched the Adam's family, it looked like Cousinette. You remember Cousinette? It was just a little fur ball.

Yep. That's what it was, but it was black. So basically, when I drew it on the paper, I drew it about the size of my thumb, and they just made the hair outlines. But you could definitely see, and I still remember this right now in my mind, just like I'm looking at it, I remember the back of the head being a little bit taller than the front. Not like a slide slope, but definitely bigger in the back than it was in the front, if that makes any sense. It's not like it's got a chronicle head or whatever people say or whatever.

It didn't look like that. It just looked like it definitely was taller at the back and a little shorter above the four end. I do know what you mean, yeah. Yeah. So it's interesting. I've never heard anyone else use the analogy of Cousin It, which I totally know what you're talking about. Is there a certain reason? Definitely, maybe too young. Oh, they definitely would be. I just know it because I used to watch Nick at night as being a lot younger back in the day. But anyways, what were the specific things you noticed about it that made you call it cousin It that made you jump right to that?

It's pretty hairy. It's pretty hairy. I hear a lot of people say we've seen one and it was like it had to mange or hair it was missing. And I can see that because the picture of what I call the gorilla, there's a spot right between its eyes on its top of its head that a big chunk of hair is missing. How many times do you walk through the woods with a ball cap on and the limb knock your head off or hat off? Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery platforms too. That's freedom to be. Use as directed.

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One time I was thinking across the fence after it was chasing the pigs, my girlfriend and I were traveling around the back, and I seen something on the other side of the fence low to the ground. And I just said, I don't remember that stump being there. The next thing I know it took off and it was low the ground. I think that was a pig. But I remember seeing what looked to be like a silver street down its back when it was that day across.

When I've seen it turn and walk away from me two months ago, three months ago, in June, it looked like right between the shoulder blades. It had about 16 to 18 inches of either white hair or silver hair between the soda blades. I'll never forget it because it stuck out big time. But I also thought, could that be a glimmer? And then I thought, no, because what I've seen across that pence a year or so ago, it had the same thing. So I think I'm dealing with the same, whatever.

Never. Not a unicorn. I can tell you that. You said it's not a glimmer. Can you define what you mean by that? It's like if sunlight hits a horse's hair, it'll give that glare. Okay. Shiny side, shiny, like it's using or whatever, make it shine. Totally got it. And one of the pictures I took where it's going the other side before it took off running, you can see that same shimmer. You can see it, and it's 100 yards away from me.

I say it's 100 yard away, maybe it's 70 yards away from it. But I got a pretty good picture of it. You can zoom it in and see that shine off the hair. So the hair seems to be long and black. I don't see any color difference. It looks like black as the age of stage. It's black. We don't have bears in East Texas.

You can go north here toward Oklahoma and maybe see a few stragglers coming down. Where I'm at, I don't know if a bear's ever been seeing in our county, ever. It's a bear. Look. this thing were so fast a bear couldn't go that fast if it had been driven behind a truck it's not possible

it's not possible the steps weren't very far apart going into that tree line because it had just turned around and it didn't have to take but three steps and it was in the woods you see what I'm saying so those steps were not like

he was trying to get away at that point and I never could find any in the woods because of the undergrowth and forage and stuff like that in there. But the ones going in, you can see the depression done them and the outline of them and stuff like that. How long would you say the tracks were? 10 to 12, maybe. Okay. And I probably lean more, I'd probably lean more to the 12s.

Sure. It's just hard to estimate when you're looking at it on the ground. But I wear a 10 and a half, and it was ever been as long as my foot. but I'm, that's in a boot, so if you mentioned, the boot was probably 12 inches. About, so cousin it, yeah, we're just going to. I'm sorry, that's the only thing I can describe. I see, go for it. I go for it.

It sounds like you got a look at the face of the creature. Was the whole face covered with hair then, or? I never got, all I got to see is the back of the head. Ah, okay, okay. Gotcha. Never did get to see the deal, but you can tell. when it went as it turned around, you could tell that it was big at the back and it was just, I don't know, my head may slope like that, I don't know, it was just a gradual decline and, I mean, that's all I never got to see the pace. I want to see the pace, but never got to see the face. I just got to see the side in the head. And I couldn't even see an ear because if it had an ear, it was either really small or it's covered completely by hair. When you see the pictures I send you, it's pretty woolly.

I can't imagine how hot it is in this Texas heat. Exactly. When it's moving away from you, did you notice anything about the arms or the legs at all? No, because, see, the bush was at the tree limb that I had cut. It stands about four feet tall. Okay. Most of that was behind it. So when it turned and went away, I'm looking from its torso up.

And it's like its arms were really. right up against its side. So when it went in, it was almost one uniform shape, so to speak. It's not like it was slinging its arms left and right. It was just like you just turn around real slow and just walk because it didn't act like it was scared. When it was walking,

before I took off running, it was walking. But when I ran, that's one either it's side of, hey, I better get it or whatever. I can't believe it'd be scared of me. But when I started running, it was gone. It was so fast.

I'm still blown away by how fast it actually got into those woods and I never seen it again. That's impossible. Because you said that you had, you were chasing after it with, you said, a pocket knife or what type of knife you got? Yeah. So when I finish, I carry a small pocket knife. But when I'm in the woods, I carry a big pocket knife. I say a big pocket knife. It's a five inch.

And it's razor sharp. I keep it sharp at all times. but it's the only thing I had. I just didn't know what else do. If I would have, you know, I carry my nine with me now all the time. I don't go in those woods without nine. Even if I'm bow-hunting, I got it with me. Especially after what I've seen, I'm just like,

and I'm back there at bow-hunting, what am I going to do, poke him running an arrow. So I want to have protection. And I don't know that I would shoot one. This depends. I don't know that I would shot. I'm not going to shoot anything. I don't know what it is.

period, but if it turns and counters me, then I had to make a decision. Either me or him, and that might bring a decision on your plate, but I don't want to shoot one. I just want to get a good visual one with the things that's happened to me in my life in the last 10 years from HUD and experience and stuff. Now I'm really about more than anything. Now, my family has Indian heritage, so if you don't know this, every Indian tribe actually has a name for it. Every Indian tribe has a name for it.

Even Eskimos have a name for it. So I wasn't too much into it. Didn't care whether they existed or not. I've been in the woods all my life, didn't care. But now that the things have happened to me, I started looking into it more, and I'm starting to put pieces together. It's happened to me through the years,

thinking, I've been around these things a lot more. than I thought I had been. Some of the things I've had in, the tracks and stuff like that. Oh, man. It's pretty interesting. Never thought he'd be right here in my backyard. Exactly, right. No one ever thinks that.

You've talked to your neighbors as well about them seeing creatures on their land as well, it sounds like? No, I have one neighbor that we communicate on deer, which I'm saying this deer or you stay in it on your property, blah, blah, blah. And I asked him, I said, you're further down in that bottom than I am in. You ever have anything weird down there? And he goes, what are you talking about? And I showed him the picture of that. No. He said, but send me that picture.

And so I sent him the picture. And he says, I hear some things down there, but I ain't ever seen nothing. Oh, okay. And I was like, you know, I'm only like 500 yards from you. Yeah. I'm in any corner of your fence. You're down in the bottom. I'm not keeping eye out.

See what's anything happening down there. He never text back that he's seen anything. But he was like, I needed to see that picture. And I showed that picture. You send that to me. Have you heard any screams or whoops or anything? Yes. Okay.

Never paid no mind. I never did. I'd be down there hunting pigs with a thermal at night and hear stuff. They're like, what? What is that? I've heard mountain lions, I heard bobcats, foxes, they all make interesting noises, but you can tell some of these things you can't put an animal to the sound, so to speak. And I heard some pigs scream for bloody murder back there, and we've had some pigs show up with ears missing. I seem that was hog hunters.

But we've had some pigs that were dead, found dead on my property, and they had an ear missing. And I thought that was pretty strange. But I don't know. It can be hog hunters, taking the ears of trouble here or whatever. It sounds like you've got an eye out on your property now. You're always looking for something to show up, which is cool. 10 cameras. Yeah.

Something I also wanted to talk to you about, and this is getting off subject just for a little bit. But just because that area, Texas, is also. known for some other things as well. And so I'm just throw it out there. If you've ever seen or heard anyone that's had an encounter with like an upright canine ever or something called a dog man, no? No. I heard this dogman theory and I'm not going to say it don't exist. Again, I'm going to be optimistic. I'm even optimistic that most likely a unicorn don't. exist but you're sure as I say you don't somebody will find one so I'm not going to I'm always going to be optimistic because of that but I never heard anything like that what's pretty

interesting Jeremiah because now that I've had this and started looking into it I hear these so-called experts say they follow waterways you got to think about where I'm at we had the salving to the south we had to suffer to the north and in the Trinitor too far back that way to the west We're kind of in the middle of a lot. And, of course, you've got Caddo Lake, the Faulkness Monster out of Arkansas, the Faulk Monster or the Legend of Boggy Creek. That's less than 70 miles from me, or where Boggy Creek runs into Cattle Lake.

Oh, there's no doubt about it that you are in the right area where a lot of stuff happens. So it's not out of the question that it doesn't sound like you have a zoo right next door where, like, a gorilla could get loose from. Right. When people said that gorilla, when I showed people that picture that one, they said, somebody must have got one look, it got loose in a zoo. I said, there's been no gorilla in a zoo lost around here ever, so don't make up stories.

Gotcha. The other question I've been throwing out just for fun is any stories you've ever heard of people seeing something that resembles like a high. hyena. You're talking about like a chukabas? Not chupacobras are awesome, but this would be, that's a good, that's a good question. I've never heard anything like that around here. Okay.

Yeah. Usually a hyena siting would be totally different than a chupacabra, but yeah, I guess down there you're going to ask. People, there's people that actually breed hyenas and I wouldn't be shocked if there's some in Texas. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah.

Yeah, I've seen a video of people that bred them and they got them as pets. We were talking earlier about you've had some interesting things you've seen up in in Oklahoma as well. Do you mind sharing about that for a bit? No, all this starts. That's where it got interesting through the years. And like I said, who would have ever thought? I could have this happened in my backyard, and I tell people you can't unsee what you've seen. You can't do it.

And you might make up stories, but you're making up a story on something you never seen. But when you've seen it, and if you, people that know me, and if you ask them about me, they're going to tell you, hey, that's the most honest guy you're ever going to meet. My people tell me I'm too honest. My daddy told me not to ever tell a lie. You've got to cover it up with another one. So I just tell it like it is. you can take it for what it is, and that's just the way it is.

So getting to my Oklahoma story, and I want to start from not the exact beginning, but it's part of the beginning. So I'm going to, this old man was a friend of my best friend, and he told us to come up and deer hunt with him. He said to come up here, he goes, I stay up here by myself. He bought this acreage. I can't remember how many acreages it is total, but it's kind of bottleneck south of Tulsa.

And he had told us when he bought it, he keeps all the cows on this side because on the other side of the creek, it was just, he'd lose a cow that got over there, so he would never go over there. And he's a lazy old man, so if he's going to hunt, he sure ain't going back there to put no effort in it. He didn't hunt the matter. But he told us when he bought that place that he had found a human skeleton up in these rock formation and had a spine on it. And I thought, well, that's pretty cool. I'd like, where's that at? And I went and looked for it. He told me I never did find it and everything else.

So that kind of comes into play with what may have happened to me, or what has happened to me. It may have some instances with that, for that matter. Might have been a juvenile aisle one for that, what matter. Here's how the story goes. We're hunting, been there hunting. We probably hunted there five, six years. Never nothing weird.

Just typical deer hunting. Oklahoma is a two-week season, So we're there during the week of Thanksgiving, and then it's over. It's a week after, the week of, and a week after. So we go off there. We hunt for three or four, five days, and then go up to another place in Oklahoma and hunt again. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago.

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This logging roads on the other side, and I had a deer feeder sitting way back in there, and it took me a pretty good little jog to get back there in the dark. And it was, I'm not scared of anything I know of, but it was pretty scary walking in there in the dark because you can't see your hand in front of your face. We're walking down the fence road And all of a sudden his cows Come running over at us like Not like we were going to feed them

But like a stampede And they're just My best friend He's a city boy So he has no idea about cows Nothing whatsoever He looks at me and says What's wrong with them cows?

I was like Dude I don't know I've hunted all over America I've been Bram deer for years I've seen them around mountain lines Bears Bulls Cahotes

I never seen no cows act like these. I guess they got the mad cow disease, making a humorous part of it. They ran back out, and you can silhouette them in the pasture a little bit, because it's not daylight. The sun is coming up, so the skyline's bright, but the lower base is dark still. They make about a, I don't know, 50 to 75-yard circle, and they came back, and they ran into that bomb-wire fence at full speed, just like you were herding buffalo off a cliff or whatever

and they cut their cell they bit three of the T-posts over with the weight of them hit at a pretty good speed we jumped back what the heck and my buddy says man something I rolled in cows and he said what are you thinking I said dude I don't tell you I don't know

but I can tell you this whatever's scaring them might scare me I ain't going in the woods till I can see I just got a bowing around you got to go I got a bow there. I ain't going in. I didn't even have my pistol on me. He said, I'm going to go get the blind. He wrote out and get the blind.

I'll wait there for a little bit. I decided, I better get going, because that's a long way. Back there to my feeder, and it's probably already gone off, and I'm going to walk up and scare the deer I'm trying to kill. I started up this logging row. It's one of them cool mornings, not a hot morning and not a cold morning, but a little hard for a jacket if you're going to be hiking like I was, three quarters of a mile to get to that stand back there.

So I'm going up this logging road, and I'm walking up the logging road, and I stop to take my jacket off to stick in my backpack. I understand when I get back there, I carry a backpack, and I'm going to stay all day. I ain't going back there for two hours in the morning and two hours even. I'm staying all day. So I stick in my jacket in my backpack, and I'm out in the middle of that logging road,

and that's when I look up and I see a big track right in the middle of that road. And it's obvious what made it. You can count all five toes. I didn't measure it, but I guess it to be 15 inches, and it's about seven to eight inches wide. I see it, and I'm just like an, oh, my lord. And I turn and look, and I see which direction it went, and it went off the road, and it's going toward this rock formation over on the hill. Jeremiah, those tracks were between three and a half and four feet apart in stride.

and when it stepped off the road, it sunk like three inches. It sunk. And I was like, oh, man. And it was just, when it got off that logging road and started going toward that hill, you could see how much it was sinking in the ground and how much mud is flicked. You run a horse through a muddy area. It just trumps it up and they sink and mud goes everywhere and all that. So I'm like, man.

So I found a rock and I put it on that track. And I said, I'm going to bring my best friend back. and show him that. Now I know what has scared those cows. That's what scared those cows. In front of me, somehow.

So I walk up the logging road about 20 more yards out here, just like a baseball bat. It hits wood. I didn't know what that was. Didn't have a clue. Didn't care.

I just want to get back to my stand, but to be honest, will you, after seeing that track, I'm not deer hunting anymore. I'm looking for what made that track. And I want to see it before it sees me.

So I'm going back in there and I get in my stand. I stay all day. I'm looking. I've seen a few deer, but didn't see a lot that day. It didn't seem like they were moving around very good, and it might be because this thing was in the area. I come out of there, told my best friend the next day, I said,

I know what scared, or when we got out of the woods at night, I said, I know what scared those cows. He said, what's that? I said, Bigfoot. He said, Bigfoot. You and Bigfoot. I said, Scott. I said, how many years we've been up together? He said, about 30?

I was like, have you ever heard me say anything about Bigfoot? And he said, nope. I said, I'll tell you. I've got a track up there in that logging road. It's going to freak you out when you see it. You're going to look at me and go. And I said, you just wait. I'll show it to you more.

I got a rock laid up there in the road looking. Where's it? So I took it back in there and showed him the next day. That's pretty interesting. He said, that's pretty interesting. Still skeptical, didn't want to believe it, but he thought I might have been playing hoaxi. I'm not a hoaxer. I'm a prankster sometimes, but I'm not a hoaxer.

So he's like, that's pretty interesting. So we went on and hunted, never seen nothing else. Bob, blah, blah, blah. We try to go back a year or two after, and they have a big flood. And we can't get to the other side of the creek where we have two bow feeders over there, one for him and one for me if he decides to bow on. and so we couldn't get back there and fill them up because of the flood. So I said, we're going up in the summertime when the creek is low down and there's no water in there, very little bit of water in it.

There's always water in it, but it won't be a bunch. So I come back about two years later, and I got me, I think it's June or July. So I pulled down my four-wheeler off and I'm trying to get my four-wheeler loaded up the corn, and I go down to the creek and I'm looking around to see, where that I used to get a good road up that embankment at a 45 and catch it long and go back and fill my feet or up. It all washed out when you had a big flood. It just washed the whole embankment out.

So I'm walking around in the creek and I hear this, at that point, I had a 40 caliber on my side because I knew I was going to see a snake on that creek somewhere, somehow, so I always carried my pistol for shooting snakes in the summertime. This thing was up on this ledge and it grounded. I mean, and it sounds like a dog, but it sound like a bull at the same time. I know we don't have no cattle on that side of the creek, so whatever this is, I'm thinking, huh, I've never heard anything like that, but I got a 40 caliber. I'm a pretty good shot.

Don't mess with me or I'll shoot you, whatever. It does it about probably four times, but in about a 20-minute span. And at that time, I start walking. down the creek to look for another place to get my four-wheeler up the creek channel. And I can hear it walking with me up on top of this hill. Can't see it. I've done it's 20 foot deep in that creek probably, or at least 15. And I can hear it walking through the brush up there.

And I go down this way, and then I hear it's following me. It's tracking me or whatever. Now, that's pretty interesting. Whatever it is, it's definitely paying attention to me. And at that point, I turned and I looked at it, and I seen seven sets of tracks coming off the side of that creek bluff, and they were going in an angle instead of just jumping straight off. It was like I did my four-wheeler. I get a run at an angle and go up. These were coming down.

So I went over there and put my boot beside them, and they were about 11 inches long. but what I thought was weird about those is the toes were long like my fingers. They weren't like big and round. They were really long and skinny. You can see the big toe was more like a thumb. The other ones were all long as skinny.

They were about three to maybe three and a half foot apart. It didn't have near as big as stride as the one I'd seen years prior. And I was like, oh man, there's a different one because I knew those weren't from the same one I've seen earlier several years before. And I had taken pictures of the ones that I found three or four years before, and I had them at one of my phones, and I had lost. I transferred my pictures from one phone to another, and then sometimes my game cams go on my cell cam,

and sometimes I just go through their delete pictures. And I either deleted them or they got removed when I switched phone, so I didn't have those first sets of tracks. I had them in an email because I emailed them just a couple of people so I can look back to my email and find them. But it may be thousands of them to go through, but I definitely got them an email because I remember emailed them to a few people. I go up there to get a cattle panel. I'm going to get a cattle panel laying on the side of the creek where I can catch it with my novice and go up and catch that logging road. And I would just go to wire this cattle panel into the side of the creek channel so I can get a run and get traction and get on there back there because I'm not hauling corn back here on my back.

I'm getting on that four-witter and I had a two-wheel drive. I'm going up to the barn to get the cattle panel, and the owner's up there at the barn. So I said, hey, buddy, I said, have you got a digital camera? And he said, I do. I said, you've got a big foot living on this dead gun place because I found some more tracks? You remember them I found a couple years ago? He said, yep. I found some more today.

They're not as big, but they're back there. And he was like a kid in the candy store. I said, get your digital camera and meet me down at that creek. and we'll get some cameras. I want them on an SD carbon duct so we can't lose them. I don't want to lose them. And he gets his camera, and I'm down there wiring his cattle panel up. He comes down there and says, he's looking at me.

He said, man, that's pretty good idea, Mark. I would have never thought that. I said, I'm a guy on this type of stuff. I can come up with things. He said, yeah, I would have never thought that you put that cattle panel down, that soft sand, and you just run over it and go back there. We're sitting there talking. He's on a Polaris, and all of a sudden he goes,

again. And I tell you, this old man's eyes got as big around. He looked at me, he said, Mark, I'm 73 years old. I ain't never heard nothing like that. I started laughing. I said, it's already done it to me like five times or six times. He said, I don't have a clue. I said, I knew it wasn't there in your cows because you wanted cows over.

He said, absolutely not. I wouldn't put my cows over. I wouldn't never buy them. He said, but I ain't never heard nothing like that. So we're sitting there talking again, and we try to get quiet. we start here to make some, I don't know, it made a couple of weird little bee noise. It's not like a mouse, like it was popping its lip to be like, like that. And I was like, he goes, that's weird.

So anyway, it grabbed us about three or four more times and it just got quiet, but we could hear it up there moving around when we would move or whatever. We could hear it. He gets the pictures. He's, I can't wait to show him to the game, Morden, because that's just crazy. So he takes all these pictures and he's got them on his camera. And I get on back here and fill my feeder up. I never see nothing when I get on top of that hill and everything like that.

When I was getting back there to hunt when we came to hunt during the fall, I was going up that logging road, and when I showed my best friend that track a few years before with a rock, I'd move those rock, the rock to the side. When I came back hunting this time, there was two rocks in the middle of the road. And I'm thinking, I didn't put them there. I've removed them from last time. Those rocks haven't been there in years.

And there was only one, but there's this. time there was two. I'm starting to go back here to hunt and I check my feet before we started our hunt actually is when it was and there's a tree laying across the road. I'm thinking that's weird. I got to go back to the game warden story real quick but we'll back up. I would go back to the tree. He goes and shows the game warden two weeks later in game warden told them they were bear tracks but they're not bear tracks. They were too long to be bear track and bearer don't have a three and a half left stride. Anyway and he said I got behind his

house, he'd heard some noises behind the house for about a week and they disappeared. That was all before we got to go up there and hunt before the tree and the rocks. We go back up there and I'm going across this tree that's uprooted, it's got a root ball on the end of it. It's laying across my trail, the logging road. He's speaking around as a football. 15, 18 p. long. It's not something you're going to pick up real easy and move.

I was able to grab one in and just move it around off the road and going in there with my four-winter. I could have probably just jumped over it, but I thought, well, I don't do that because it takes too much time. I just go ahead and move it outweights. I got off and moved out of way. I go back here and I hunt. About two days later, I'm going back in there and the two rocks were back in the road and the tree was across the road again. I'm thinking, okay, somebody's jacking with me. This is crazy. This isn't. I still never found where that root ball come from. I looked all up and down the side of the road. And here's a tree that's got a pretty good root ball on it, bigger than a trash can, not bigger than a five-gallon buckets,

what I'm saying. And I can't see anywhere where it's been uprooted. It was put there in that road. There's nowhere up down that road I could see where that thing was jerked out in. I moved them again, went in another day or two, never seen nothing else, never heard of it. We came back to next year, and about 100 yards before my deer stand, a bigger tree was laid across the road. And this one was big enough.

You wasn't going to move it unless you had it. tracker. So it could have been a deadpawed, but I never could find where it fell. It was like a tree top and fell out and then something was just put in there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation. Plan B is the number one OBGYN recommended brand and the only one that you can find at all major retailers in all 50 U.S. states. There's no minimum age requirement and you don't need an ID to buy it. You can order it through DoorDash and other major delivery

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Whenever to see the root ball is it or anything like that, I could see where it fell out. And so that was basically the end of it. Never did see anything else other than that. But I've kept my eyes open. And, of course, we don't hunt there no more. The old man's moved on and all that kind of stuff. So we don't hunt there anymore. But he did say his neighbor had one on a trail cam or a game cam,

but I never did get a chance to go see that either. But that's my almost start. Mark, it's a wild one, especially that noise that you guys heard. Are you able to share any more specifics about, the area that was, I know you mentioned it was south of Tulsa, right? Yeah, Bristol, we hunt it is out of Bristol and between Bristol and there's a national forest there

or a, I forget what they call them, wild mouth management areas. We were hunting, not, there's a lot management area probably about five miles from them. Actually, it's probably five, about, probably three miles from us. And we were back down in there between, Bristol in that wildlife management area, which is, I think there's two or three big creeps in there at that time.

I don't know what the names of them are, but those creeks, they travel all up through there and all. But, yeah, Bristol, or BR-S-T-O-Ws. I don't know how they pronounce it up there. Very interesting. I'm sure there'll be some listeners that hear this, and they might even know that same area. It'll be interesting to hear if anyone reaches out. in that area.

Oh, yeah. Once you've seen it, you just can't see that. It's not like imaginary. I got imaginary friend over here. It's not like that. I sure changed my attitude a lot when I'm in the woods. I am on guard like nobody's business. Going back to your property down in Texas,

do you think that there's two different types of Bigfoot down there? You mentioned you have the picture of the gorilla, then you have the Cousin It. I think the grill and the cousin is the same button. I think the same one. Okay. Yeah, because they're all in this corner, and it's the thickest corner on my property.

It is the thickest cover on my property. So it makes total sense. If you're going to hide, you're going to hide where it's thickest. And it's in that little area where it can be undetected. I can see it moving. The guy behind me is on a wildlife ag exhibit. They only bow hunt. and they're just there very seldom.

Nobody owns the 12 acres to the north of me that's pretty thick. Never seen anybody over there ever. And that's where I think it's, if it has a home or where it's hanging out, I think that's where it's hanging. Because that's the thickest place. There's something to think about it. And I thought about this after I heard people say they've seen them, eight, nine, ten, twelve feet tall, and twelve would be just absolutely a job.

gigantic epithesis. And that's what I think some of these might be. You guys think about this. If you're going through the woods and the woods are thick and it's just standing there and all you're going to feast two legs and if the cover has got everything else broken up

if it's fairly tall. So if you're not looking mid range, you can probably miss it completely because you're just sitting the legs retreat. That's in my opinion. If it was very tall, if it was 8, 9, 10, or 10 feet tall, whatever, I would think of some of the brush that I'm looking at, the underbrush comes up so far, you can see trees so far,

that middle torso area would just be camouflaged by trees. You wouldn't be looking at it as it's something solid. You just see two legs a little like two trees. Oh, you know. It would be the weirdest thing in the world. I couldn't imagine how we even get through there. Yeah. I couldn't imagine you could do, but hey, I want to back that up with something.

I have watched elk that have horns as wide as the hood of my truck. run through a forest and not hit hardly a branch or not take their head plumb off. And I'm thinking, how is that possible? I've seen elk with massive racks go through some of the tithest cover. They'll lean that head back and run right through there 100 mile and hour to get away from you. And you would think that their horns would catch a limb and jerk their head flub back or do a backflip. I'm out right through there. It's amazing what they can do.

But I want to give you something else. So people ask me, do you believe? I almost had to now. I said, did I care before? I always thought there's, I'm always optimistic. But if you're going to try to find one, then probably not ever buy one. Unless somebody says, hey, I got one in my backyard eating cherries.

So I look at it like that. Why deer exists, but how many do you see when you're not? It's pretty rare. I think there's more than people think there is. I definitely think there's too many people, a million sightings a year probably. whatever it is or hard about, I don't know. They all can't be hoaxers and liars.

It can't be. Have you thought to yourself, what is it that it actually is? It has to be, it's got too much intelligence, man, to be. I won't say that one hadn't been killed because I think some probably were killed in the 18, 19-19-hundred. If you look into Teddy Roosevelt, I think it was, Teddy Roosevelt wrote a book about one killing one. And as they were running trap line, and one of his best friends got killed running tracks by one. And supposedly he shot at it or killed it or whatever. I can't remember the name of the book that Teddy Roosevelt.

But I don't even remember what year that was because I'm older than that. But so it's like this, it's got to be, it's got to have the Neanderthal survival deal. And maybe it's an ape. We'll go back to this thing called Gigantic Apithicus. something that wasn't supposed to make it through the ice age that did. There's a lot of things. Gar, bow fin, several fishies. Fish made it through the ice age thing.

Why couldn't it on a mammal? It has intelligence that's the place maybe to get warm, stay warm, or figure it out or whatever. So I'm just got to be a cross of something. It just has. When I see what I've seen, and it has a human foot track for the most part, other than the one has the long fingers, that was real scratching in my head. But I will say this. I did find a track online.

It looked just like what I found in the second time at Bristol. I did find one just like it online. So evidently it's something that happens from time to time or maybe steps or whatever. But, man, there's just so much in this world we don't know about. Oh, I know. Yeah. But it had intelligence because how can you survive and not be detected on a daily basis?

as is. But here's the other thing. And I say this to some of my friends, they say, man, you ought to go out and do some night searching. Well, look, I've seen some of these TV shows, and I'm not going, I don't want to use the word idiot, but I want to put it in a paraphrase so you understand it a more. If you go hunting something black in the dark and night,

even if you find it, you're still at zero. Does that make sense? Yeah. I don't understand it. These things are seen in the daytime as much as they're, seen at night, why would you not try to prove the species in a daytime

because if you find them at night on the thermal, there's still skepticism that's going to show up. People are going to go, well, it can be a human because you ain't got, but if you got in the daytime, it's a little bit more convincing because you get a better picture. So, I don't like to use the word idiot,

so I'll retract that. But I'm just saying that I'm not going to go looking for something black in the night. I don't care if you call it. up or whatever because I call coyotes up at night and I call coyotes up in the daytime. If it's a predator, it's looking for a meal. I don't care what time it is. I get hungry at 8 o'clock in morning.

I get hungry at midnight. I'm going to get up and go feed. Oh, absolutely. Mark, it has been a really fun chat with you. And I would love it if you could, if there's other stuff that happens on your property, definitely keep me up to date and send me an email. man like you said i don't want to kill it solid picture that i right now i'm going to tell people whatever i say i'll take a polygraph i know what i've seen i can't take that back i ain't trying

to pull a bull over nobody's eyes or nothing and i'm just like here in east texas i'm shocked i really am because this is not supposed to happen where i'm at my brother now he he was like well i don't know what you got going on down there, but you got going on something. I want to mention one other things. You hear the term with the orbs and stuff with Bigfoot. I've had a couple of deals on camera, they look like little orbs. People say, well, that's dust particles going through the air. So, like, yeah, we've seen some that look like a Z.

We've seen something look like a Christmas ornament, all that's kind of stuff. But one morning, I'm down here in my hunting line, and I text my brother while he's hunting out, he's hunting out of his hunting by it. up another place. I said, you wouldn't believe what I'm looking at. He said, well, that's. I'm looking up in a tree, and it's like there's a spotlight up there in that tree. Really? I said, yeah.

And the sign's not even close to coming up. And I said, it looks just like a little headlap, a little light up there. And I watched this thing for 30 minutes. And I don't know if it was a reflex in all seven or what kind of. It's up in a tree like 35, 40 feet. And then all of a sudden, I look back on where, I've looked away, and I look back and it's still there, and I was going to look back and it's gone. And I never say it again.

I thought, that is weird. Wow. Because it looked like a little old light up on top of a tree, and I was like, he said, the weirdest stuff goes on down there. I'm like, I know. But that lie, I don't believe in the orb stuff, but that was pretty weird. That was pretty weird. You would have thought somebody was coon hunting.

Yeah, and one of them trees because it just set up for a little bit, and I watched it, and it may have been a reflection of sunlight coming through something or whatever, but I thought that's pretty weird. That's the only thing I've ever seen as far as a light other than on cameras and stuff. I don't believe in that orb stuff, but that was tricky. You definitely have some weird stuff going on down there, Mark, for sure. I'm again to think so, because like I said, try to get my, you know, some of my buddies have come out, We'll hog hunt and we'll.

Sometimes we hear some things that most time we don't. It's just typical. Oh, hunting. And every now I mean, we'll hear something that's a little different, but most times it can say most of the stuff. But it's like right now is say, so the last time I've seen it was probably, probably in, let's see, somewhere, probably August was the last time as I seen.

I'll see you the picture. You'll have a date on it. So you'll be able to, that'll be my last picture at the date on it. Not saying it. I say, no more size. I look in the mud all the time. all the time. I'm looking around my pond for steps.

I am looking at the creek canals and stuff. I'm always looking for that little something different. Oh, I know what I was going to tell you. So my grandson and I, we were where I've seen this thing at before. I had explained to him where I've seen anything else, but about a month before that, before I seen it, we were walking through there and it was a pig skeleton and a tree about, I don't know, five foot tall

and it was in the fork of a tree. Oh, really? And my grandson says, yeah, my grandson goes, Papa, look here. I'm like, yeah, why don't you do that for? He said, I didn't do that. I said, yeah, you did.

He said, no, I didn't. I said, whatever. And I just shook it off. I didn't think nothing of it. Didn't think nothing of it. Well, right where I saying that thing walked to the tree, the other side of that little oldman, that tree was in,

that tree is about as big around as A Copenhagen can. What about that size? I don't know if you have you to do that. Smaller. Actually, probably about the size of a red bull can be more accurate. Okay. Anyway, the tree is just bent over, pushed over,

and the skull is about 25 feet from where it was in the tree. But I thought that was pretty weird. Yeah, that's very weird. Because he swears. He said, I did not put that there, Paddle Mark. I said, yeah, you did. He said, no, I did not. And I was like, boy, don't be pulling on my leg like that.

And I, he said, I didn't do it. He said, it was there. That's why I told you. And I was like, I didn't do it. And it's just a little old, from one of the pigs we had shot. And it was shoved in the fork of that limb. And it was jammed in there or whatever. And I just, I never even judged.

I just looked at it. Yeah, you're just jerking my chain. But now that makes sense. because it's not 40 feet from where it walked by that tree. Everything's happening in that corner. Everything's happening in that corner. I would be really aware when you're gone back there for sure, Mark. I'm telling you, I don't go get in my bow stand without my pistol.

I've got my pistol off it all time now. Again, I don't want to shoot it. I just want self-protection. Absolutely. But I don't know what I'm doing with. Somebody, I want to say one more thing. I know you're probably ready to get off here. Somebody said, well, what about homeless people?

I'm like, yeah, it's a possibility. You remember when back in the old days, mountain men, the mountains and you'd never see them again? Sure. Okay. Indian tribes, and I can't remember which ones,

I'm trying to think, it might have been either the Sioux or the Crow. If you dishonored the tribe or were caught doing something with a squaw and somebody will probably elaborate on this a little bit more, but they would kick you out of the tribe

and tell you to go to the mountains and never be seen again. And so I've often wondered if this could be some past episodes of that because I'm pretty sure it's more than one tribe, but it's either the Sioux, the Crow, I can't remember, but one of them, maybe all of them. I don't remember, I can't remember which Cherokee or Comanchee, but whatever it may be something just in the Native American bill somebody may like I said to chime in on that at one point and see but I do know that I've heard that years and years ago

that if they did something dishonored the tribe they were kicked out and sometimes they would give them a squaw and they would send them out and say don't come back you're no more part of this tribe you're done and they go into the mountains or wilderness and never to be seen again. BigFa Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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Find your shade of Incen Eraser Concealer at your local retailer, Mabelene, New York. What if they got up there and started a breeding population? It's like the Abernid. I can't even pronounce it. A Brinid's lease or whatever in Australia or whatever. There's travel people that they keep out. In fact, I heard they found one just the other day, another tribe that never even. ever been found.

But it is very interesting how in certain parts of the world, there are still tribes that don't have contact, really, with the outside. I just say we know everything. Again, it goes right back to that circle. We keep making that dead horse. We don't know everything. We're not ever going to know everything. We just got to take each grain and each piece of the puzzle and put it together.

And one day it's going to come up there. But, you know, with proven, let's just say Bigfoot in its existence as all, there's lots of examples of blood and hair. Jeff Meldron's got a, man, he told me some stories that were just awesome. And some of the tracks he's casted and stuff like that. And I got to visit with him at one of the Bigfoot conventions or conferences. Oh, sure. And I ended up buying one of the cast from Patty out of California. Uh-huh.

And I can say now that I own that, compared to the ones that what I found in Oklahoma, they're not near as big as panty. He's not even close. Yeah, they're good. But probably is like 18 inches. It's a big old track. It's 17 18 inches.

The ones in Oklahoma were not that big. But, buddy, I'll tell you, if I get it, I'll get a hold of you. I love it. Like I said, we get through here. Pictures. And I want to know, when I send you these pictures, I want you to text me right back. and tell me what your thoughts are.

You tell me, because I'm always open to the, hey, if you think that's a, it's not a buzzard, I'm not going to go for that because it's too shiny, there's no feather. It's not a buzzard. Yep. But he said, it does look like a gorilla or it does it look like a hairy homeless person or whatever.

I'll take any thing and at least put it into play. I'll let you know, for sure. All right, man. All right. I enjoy doing this. Everybody got to hear this. and know I'm just telling it just like it is, and it is what it is. You can't unsee what you're seeing, and maybe there's a reason why I'm supposed to say.

Good Lord knows I don't. There you go. Mark, it's been a pleasure chatting with you, and I hope to be chatting with you again in the future. All right, Bigfoot Society. The privilege of talking to Dan from down in Missouri about some things he's experienced regarding Bigfoot. How's it going tonight, Dan? It's doing really good. Finally got a little bit of rain.

It's been pretty dry, but year season's been rolling along, and a lot of people have been out in the woods and probably experiencing a few weird things because this time of year is when we used to hear or experience more strange things as far as Bigfoot. Some people claim that they migrate through this part of the country, anywhere from the end of October through the end of December, first part of January.

So that's when we've had most of our incidences. I know there are a lot of really interesting areas in Missouri that have to do with Bigfoot. Are you able to give maybe a general location or if we need to just leave it at Missouri, that is fine too. No. We live in Reynolds County, Missouri, which is about 120 months. miles south, southwest of St. Louis, down in the Ozarks. There's Johnson Sheddon, State Park, Elephant Rocks, different things like that, but we're in an extremely rural area. You most certainly are. The thing that started it with me was my grandson graduated from

high school 2016, and prior to that, probably about a year before that, my daughter and Grantson live on the family farm, and there's roughly 200 acres. And anyway, they live on the back side of the farm. And I was over one morning. It was late October, beautiful day in the morning. And across the ridge from them, it would be east from them, we heard a blood-curdling scream. And there was a group of coyotes. up on the hill and they started yelling and yipping and they ran south and continued to yell

until they were completely out of sight. I've heard a lot of strange animal noises, bobcats, coyotes, foxes. I've never heard anything like that. And we kind of looked at each other. What in the world was that? You question what it was or what it could be. And it kind of got the ball rolling. And then after that, my grandson went to school up in Maine for a while. He came home for Christmas break. He came home early Thanksgiving. We have feral hogs here, terrible animal. But anyway, we were going to see if we could hunt a couple of them.

And we were following a path behind the farm. And to give you an idea, from my daughter's house to the nearest town, it's 20 miles. There's nothing but forest in between there. It's extremely dense forest. And we're walking along a game trail, which was probably, I would say, 60 yards down from the peak of the hill. And as we're walking, he's in front of me, a rock probably just a little bit between a softball and a volleyball. Came over the top of the hill, went right between us and hit the ground. and I looked up and you could see branches and twigs and stuff falling off the trees where it came through there.

My grandson turned around goes, where did that come from? I said, I don't know, man. It looked like it came from up above the hill and we looked. He goes, I don't think we need to go up that way. I don't think so. So we made a circuit and went back to the house. And that same year that he was on leave, there's a pond. back in the woods. It used to be an old farmway back there. And we went back here to hog hunt

one night. There was a big pig that was coming in there. And there was maybe not quite a half moon, just bright enough to be able to see walking back in there. And we set up and he'll come in here pretty soon. And all of a sudden, the night noises got extremely quiet. We heard something walked behind us. And it wasn't a deer. rather heavy. You could almost feel it stopped behind us. We sat there and finally you could hear walk off and went up the hill on the other side of us and we sat there for probably 15 minutes. The night noises came back and he looked at me and I think we better just go to the house. Things like that. My daughter this time of year, she'll hear tree knocks and usually it's after

dark and she's in the house with a TV on and she called me one night her husband's an over-the-road truck driver so she calls me up she goes look I'm hearing these noises so I went back out there and I listened I don't really hear anything so went and visited for a little bit and as I walked out we heard it again and it was up on the hill I'm not sure about that that's weird this time of year she'll hear him tree knocks and she's heard three of them when east of the house, one would have been north and the other one would have been west. They were back and forth. She says, it doesn't bother the dog.

And anymore now, she says, she goes, I've heard it so much. It doesn't bother me. And her husband came home from traveling one time and she said something to him about it. And he says, oh, you know, it's probably the house or something. And he heard it one night too. It's things like that. My sister and brother-in-law live about three miles from us, and they're out about two weeks ago. And in the evening, they like to walk around.

They've got 12 acres, and he's got a trail all the way around that they walk in for exercise. And he said there was an extremely musky smell. Now, he's like a lot of us. He lived in this part of the country, and you hear things or see things, and say, yeah, that's a fox. they're up, that smells like pigs or whatever. He goes, no, he said, this was nothing like he'd ever smelled before and they went home.

It makes me wonder, now, if they're coming through this time of year, if it's a migration, where are they going, and how come we never experienced anything like this any other time of the year? I'd really like to know if there's a migration

pattern or something like that, that would be interesting. Oh, absolutely. Your daughter has heard tree knocks. And this has been going on, like I said, this time of year, gosh, probably they've lived over there for 15 years on and off like that. And it's always this time of year. I put game cams out and I've never, unfortunately, never had a picture of anything like that. I've heard and talked to people that claim that they have pictures of a big foot.

I've never seen the pictures. I really would like to see that. But there's just, there's a state park, Martha of us, Tom Sock State Park. And one of the Rangers, the story is that he went out to get some equipment one time. And it was off on its own. I don't know if it was like a bulldoze or what, but one of the ladies that work out there said that he can't. came back and said, if you want that equipment, you go get it yourself. I will never go back out there. So I don't know what he saw or you hear different things and you just, and it's always this time of year.

That's what's strange about it. Is that a Ranger you know personally or just, you heard about it from somewhere? No. One of the ladies that worked out there told us about it. I don't know the Ranger person. There's a lot of, you hear a lot of stories and hearsay. I do know four individuals and one extremely well that had seen one. They were in high school on writing four by fours.

And he said it crossed the road right in front of us. And it wasn't a bearer. He said, the only thing I could say is it was a big foot. And this guy is extremely reliable same time of year. I would love to have some kind of definite proof or something. something's out there and I believe that's what it is. And this time of year, like I said, it's got to be a migration pattern. Have you ever talked to neighbors around the area about this as well to see if they've ever experienced anything weird on their properties?

One of the individuals that lives, as a matter of fact, across the street from the highway from my sister and brother-in-law, they had heard basically the same scream. we heard only was a different time. Once again, these people hunt are out in the woods a lot. And he said it was, he said it literally scared him to the point where he didn't think he was wanting to go out in the woods anymore after that. But we've had people that claim that they've had calves missing and things like that. But as far as, like I said, is the one guy that I do know, he said that he had some hunting dogs missing and he said he had put a game cam up and had a shadowy image of he said the only

thing I could say it was a big foot and once again I asked I said hey send me the picture I never didn't see it but some people are leery about talking about it but now that this time of year like I said this time of years when most of the stuff when we hear strange noises tree knocks, things like that. But like I said, some people are just literally to talk about us. Well, I'm not going. Let's see what's going on. So maybe get some researchers down here or something.

Missouri is a state where there are, there's a ton of researchers. You've got Miguel from Sasquatch Theory is hitting up all sorts of places down there in Missouri. And I think you guys have Mark. Twain, State Forest. Mark Twain, that's just, yeah, it's right a stone's throw from here. Is it really?

Yeah. Oh, boy. And like I said, there's literally miles and miles of nothing but forest. It's a great habitat. Lots of food. Deer, wildhaws.

Yeah. There's great habitat for them. So I even said an email to what is it, BFR? I've never heard back from them. When I started following you, it's, oh, maybe I can get a like-minded person or some response.

I'm glad that you contacted me. That's wonderful. Absolutely. Whenever I get a connection, I always like to see if I can talk because you never know what kind of small thing you might drop. And that might help someone who's listening or some connection out there. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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She's really the one that's heard more Trenox. I've heard some, oh gosh, it's been a number of years ago, and I was in a tree stand, bow hunting. and it was I heard it and it was like maybe that's a woodpecker or and I didn't even think about that for a long time until Leslie started hearing and then it's like hmm that's probably what I heard because both seasons this time of year too

so like I said I really like to see that there was a way that people could put the dates together in different locations in the country and see if there is a migration trail. That's a cool idea. So you said you were in a tree stand hunting and you started to hear knocks around you? Yeah, it would have been up the ridge from where I was sitting in a tree stand. And like I said at first, I thought I really didn't equate it to that.

But now that I think about it, and then it was more than one time. so I wish I'd have thought about it back then. So, although I don't know how happy I'd be to be in a tree stand with a big foot running around. Yeah, exactly. That can lead to some really interesting scenarios that I've heard of, and it can really definitely mess with you. Was there a pattern to the knocks that you heard when you were up in a tree stand? I'd hear, I remember it, there's probably three to four knocks.

And then it was like a delay. And then again, and then I didn't hear it anymore. And like I said, at first, I just blew it off as a kind of animal. If it was a little windy, maybe it was a tree limb hitting another tree. I never did put two and two together at the time. But that was interesting. Not that I'd have went up the hill to look. Exactly.

The scream that was heard, do you remember any details about length, duration, anything weird that you noticed? It was a very, one of these extremely long, oh, golly, it was probably 30 seconds, 40 seconds long, extremely loud. And it was one of these things that just raised the hair up on the back of your neck. What in the world? And like I said, when the coyotes took off and they yelped and screamed and until they went out of earshot.

And we looked at each other and it was like, what in the world is that? And when we talked to our neighbors and they heard something similar, only it was probably a year later. And that's when we even looked up, we started listening to animal noises on the phone. Okay, what's a bear sound like?

And we know what mountain lions and bobcats and coyotes and foxes sound like, but we couldn't get anything like that. And then he said, let's look up noises for Bigfoot. And he started to listen to different things. And there was one in particular. And it was like, whoa, I think that's it. And it was, I think, a recording from Washington or Oregon or something like that.

But yeah, it was one of these things. It brings the primeval fear out. Have there been any other out of place? sounds that have been heard around the properties at all? Not that anybody's talked about. Mainly, the main thing that we hear a lot is a tree knocks. And like I said, the rock being thrown at us was that's when I really, it's like my daughter told me, she goes, that's when you really got interested in it.

I wanted to start researching a little bit and I talked to people. I've got a big foot sticker on the tailgate of my truck. And, of course, I've got the one in my front yard, too, that I showed you a picture of. That's a funny story. But anyway, people will see that and I go, hey, you believe in Bigfoot? Sure. How about you? And some people will open up a little bit.

I thought I heard this or I thought somebody talked about this. You hear a lot of secondhand stuff. But as far as just down the earth things, I just know what's happened to my family and myself. but yeah I really started somebody wants to talk about it and I'm open to talk about it and see what they hear what they know and like I said

it's always this time of year you'd mention really quick that there were some dogs that came up missing a gentleman he lives probably I'd say 20 miles from us I'd stopped at his place of business

one day and he saw my truck and he goes oh bigfoot and I go yeah he goes hey goes I've got a picture one I go you're kidding me I said can I see it he showed me on his phone and it was taken from his game cam you could see the outline and it looked like he had something or looked like it had something in its hand and the guy goes that's my dog I'm going you're kidding me he was no he says I've been missing dogs and he said I put my game cam up and that's That's what I got. And I said, would you send me that picture? And I gave my phone number, but like I said, I never got it.

But yeah. And he was an avid hunter, and he uses dogs for pig hunting. So they weren't little dogs by any stretch of the imagination. But, yeah, it was bizarre. I really like to talk to him again and see if he's had any. That was last, yeah, last year. Let's see if he's had any incident. this year. And there's a doctor in Salem, which is like 50 miles from here. And he does a lot of

research. I have not been able to get in touch with him. But yeah, he, and they claim he's done a lot of research and did talks on it and all that. But like I said, I've never been able to get in touch with him. So once again, it's all secondhand information. But there's definitely a pattern or something through here. Living in that area of the Ozarks, are there other weird things that happen to or primarily a Bigfoot type thing going on there? Sometimes these areas have other things going on too. There's people that see different things, hear different noises and stuff like that. Being in the Ozarks, there is a lot of, oh, I don't even know what you would call it, superstitions and things like that. But I've heard some of the older people,

They'll talk about, oh, there was like some kind of wolf that would go through and make all these weird noises and stuff. And there had been, matter of fact, my brother-in-law has a picture of a wolf. He'd killed a hog on this property, about a 400-pound hog. And there was a wolf. He got a picture on a game cam. That thing was huge. People were here, things like that. It's not that there's a lot of wolves around.

I think they probably migrate through, too. But, yeah, different things like that. Like I said, a lot of superstitions, a lot of areas that people won't go into. Mark Twain National Forest has herds of wild horses, believe it or not, in there. And now we have elk, so people will see something, and it could be just a large elk going through. They started that 10 years ago, bringing elk back in. You mentioned large wolves. Do you think from what you've heard, these are actual wolves,

or is it ever these stories of like a humanoid type canine or a dog man or anything I thought? There are people, they'd be a little more south of us, that they claim that there's a dog man. Around here, I've never heard anybody mention anything like that. Farthest south, the Missouri-Aransas border down on that part, people talk about it. But up here I've never seen it. I've got the picture of the wolf and the pig. I'll send it to you when we're done talking. But as far as dogmen and things like that, I've never heard anything like that around here. Primarily people, if they hear anything, they'll either blow it off

or that could be a big foot. Some people will say that kind of laugh about it, but I think they think That could be. There's definitely something that goes through here this time of year. I have seen type structures before walking through the woods. And at the time you'll go through there and you'll look at it and go, there must have been a lot of wind or something. And doing a little more research, that's odd. We don't have snow load around here.

And if we do have a lot of wind, the trees usually get blown over. they don't get put up like tripod things Yeah, that's not normal for sure. Yeah. You mentioned that there were some areas that people

stay away from. Is that anything you have more details about what these certain areas are or why they're staying away from? No, and it's it was more oh, I hate to say old timers because that's what I'm now.

I'll be there, so don't worry. Yeah. But no, as a kid, you would hear people talk about. You don't want to go down in that part of the woods. That's just not a good place to go and things like that. You don't hear too much of that anymore. Like I said, a lot of the old people, old timers would say that.

I remember as a kid, there was a lady that told my cousin and I that there was a place that somebody had, she said the Indians had a mine and all the stuff. He didn't want to go up there being kids. We actually found it. And it was creepy. We didn't hang around too long. Plan B made over-the-counter emergency contraception legal more than 20 years ago. It's a safe, effective backup birth control option that helps prevent pregnancy before it starts by temporarily delaying ovulation.

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avoid for one reason or another, but I've only heard of a couple of them, and that was one of them that my cousin and I went to that one time, but other than that, don't hear too much of it anymore. Have you ever heard of a place called Marley Woods in Missouri? Marley Woods. No, it doesn't ring a bell. Yeah, I'm not surprised. It's supposedly some place in Missouri where it's like a ranch-type setting where there's a lot of really weird stuff that happens including UFOs and just really weird things like that.

But it's kind of like only a few people are aware of the location as it's private property, stuff like that. But it's one of those things you never know. We've seen unidentified flying objects around here. I was in the Air Force and there's things that I've seen here. That's no plane. That's no satellite. That's just weird.

And once in a while, somebody will say something, oh, wow, I saw a UFO last night. It doesn't surprise me. My son-in-I-in-I-will-out at night and hog hunt. And it's amazing, some of the things in the sky, extremely interesting. And some of it is like, what is that? Don't have a clue.

There is a place in Missouri. I think it's west, somewhere southwest, where there is a light that evidently goes up and down a road. They talk about that, too. I remember where that was at near West Plains or something. I've never seen it. So you said you saw some, like, UFO-type things in the sky. Was it, like, strange lights or, like, an actual craft that you saw?

Strange lights. One night, my daughter, my wife and my two daughters were coming back, And there was a large white craft or something. And I stopped in the road and they said, you just need to keep going. Yeah. You, there's no, there's hardly any light pollution down here. So you see a lot of stuff. That was just bizarre.

You stopped in the road to look at it and your families, you just need to keep driving. Just drive. Yeah. That's really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was really interesting. But no, and then once in a while, you'll see something, like I said, have no idea what it is. It's, there can't be human made with the way the thing, with the way they move.

Part of 90 degree turns, be there, get real bright and disappear, just things like that. It's, it's cool to watch, but at the same time, you wonder, what, is it and where did it come from? Yeah, there's been some really interesting reports from Missouri over the years. You've got everything from the Momo monster back in the day. More recent during the, I think it's the Joplin tornadoes. People were reporting seeing, I believe they were calling them butterfly people around the time of the tornadoes. And some people were thinking maybe some form of angels.

We're not sure. but it's a very interesting state. It is. Depending on where you're from, there's, oh, golly, different beliefs,

things like that. Like I said, the one place down of West Plains with the light, and then further south, the holler or whatever you want to call it, there's just, there's all kinds of things up north by the rivers.

I'm sure there's things up there. But, yeah, down here primarily, Like I said, this time of year, you know, hear tree knocks. And like I said, the rock throwing thing was the one thing that really, that in the same time period when we had whatever it was walked behind us. It was bipedal. It was extremely heavy.

And, yeah, it was one of those things. I've never been afraid to be in the woods. But that right there creeped me out. My grandson said, you about done here, grandpa. I said, yeah, let's get the heck out. out of here. It's one back home. Yeah. You were talking about the howler. Is that in reference to when you heard the screams? I would, that was more, I've heard people talk about the howler, but that's more of, I would think of a wolf type sound. This was a, wow, I can't, it's hard,

it would be, I wouldn't even call it, it would be like an extremely frightened woman scream, only more guttural. But it was, yeah, that was really strange. And like I said, for all those coyotes to run away the way they did, if it was just a scream, we probably went, I don't know what that is, but to hear the coyotes run the way they did, there was obviously something up there they didn't want to be around.

That always makes you wonder, right? Like when you hear these reports or you actually hear the recordings where it's like something large makes that noise and then the coyotes just know to shut up. They've probably been messed with from it in the past. It would be interesting if you put a sound recorder out in their area. It's something you would capture. Yeah. As a matter of fact, my daughter and son-in-law did that. put one on the back of their house facing the forest.

And there were sounds that they heard. And when they checked the recording, it wasn't on the recording. Yeah. What in the world? He said, I know that things working right. You'd hear the dogs barking all that, but you couldn't hear that. Oh, so they can hear stuff through their own ears, but it's not getting picked up.

That is really weird. It's not getting picked up, yeah. Like I said, we've got GameCube. we put up and we've captured a lot of different things, but not that. I don't even know how you would track those. I put them on game trails before out in the woods to see if we could see anything. But like I said, I've got pictures of deer. I've got pictures of dogs and hogs, but nothing like that.

No one's trying to do like a gifting type situation or leave food for them or anything like that, right? No, we haven't tried anything like that. that's good yeah I don't know if I want to feed the animals like that or not but I've not heard of anyone trying that like I said there's so much out in the forest farm we've got so much deer and like I said the feral hogs are unbelievable

there's so many of them they have ample food for sure I don't know it is interesting I remember seeing a TV show they were putting stuff out for me donuts and all kinds of stuff and I keep thinking maybe that's gooey I'm not sure but yeah my

personally it's I am very wary of stuff like that because like one of the times you're going to either stop feeding them or you're going to forget to and that's like those are the reports I take where it's like it's just stuff goes

haywire after that yeah yeah I think I'd pass on that action for sure yeah no sense pushing our luck. I don't mind putting game cams out and seeing if I can hear them. But no, yeah, that might irritate them quite a bit. Dan, it has been fun chatting with you. It sounds like you have some really interesting stuff going on there. Definitely keep me in the loop if you hear some more stuff go on down there.

I definitely will. And like I said, I'll talk to different people, see if there's anything this time of year. There's a lot of people, deer hunting and things like that, see if there's anything that anyone locally has heard. I can send to that picture of the wolf, too, if you want and see what you think of that. Oh, absolutely. My daughter particularly, she'll tell me, I heard him again last night, Dad. And like I said, at first it bothered her, but now it's, no, whatever. She thought it was weird when she heard the three of them going back and forth, though, which I can understand that. because where her house is at, it's on the back side of the farm.

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