Bigfoot Society - You Don't Mess Around Here! | Brown Springs, Oklahoma

Episode Date: January 21, 2025

Join the Bigfoot Society for an exclusive interview with Tex from Tex's Front Porch. Tex shares his years of experience and close encounters with Bigfoot and Dogman in the notorious Brown Springs area along the Texas-Oklahoma border. Listen in as Tex recounts a lifetime of fascinating and terrifying events, from childhood adventures hunting the Boggy Creek monster, to a thrilling daylight sighting of a mysterious creature in a wheat field, and a chilling confrontation with a Dogman as a teenager. Discover the unexplained phenomena, including physical evidence such as handprints and strange encounters with law enforcement detailing Bigfoot sightings. Learn about his unique solo research approach in the highly active and dangerous Brown Springs area, where the dangers include not only cryptid encounters but feral pigs, cult activities, and even escaped tigers. Tex also discusses his upcoming conference, the Crossing Realms Conference, featuring a myriad of speakers on Bigfoot, UFOs, and the paranormal. This episode is packed with mind-bending stories and deep insights into the world of cryptid research.Resources:Tex's Front Porch Youtube channel - https://www.youtube.com/@TEXSFRONTPORCH/featuredCrossing Realms Conference - https://www.eventbrite.com/e/crossing-realms-conference-tickets-1086549913039Email Tex directly - [e-mail] you've had similar encounters or experiences, please reach out to [e-mail]. Your story could be the next one we feature!🔴 Subscribe to our Youtube channel and leave a comment here: https://www.youtube.com/@BigfootSociety?sub_confirmation=1Want to call in and leave a voicemail of your encounters for the podcast - Check this out here - https://www.speakpipe.com/bigfootsociety(Use multiple voice mails if needed!)Share this video with a friend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5v75Od-X38Watch more episodes of the Bigfoot Society podcast here – https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-MGeHs0XglFJE5LwUHpmJm_&feature=sharedRecommended Playlist – New Jersey Bigfoot Encounters - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3t1vwtsKh-Mk4032IyZtWgP6LVPU8uat✅ Help me help others share their Bigfoot Encounter by joining the community on Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/thebigfootsociety✅ Hear ad-free episodes early by joining the community on Youtube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8Qq45W6iaTU8FE9kelxT7Q/joinLet’s connect:Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/bigfootsociety/Twitter – https://twitter.com/bigfoot_societyTiktok - https://www.tiktok.com/@bigfoot.societyAffiliate links mean I earn a commission from qualifying purchases. This helps support my channel at no additional cost to you.My Audio Interface: https://amzn.to/3L1q8XYPut some pep in my step by buying me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/bigfootsocietyPick up some merch here: https://www.etsy.com/shop/bigfootsociety/?etsrc=sdtSend mail here:Bigfoot Society125 E 1st St. #233Earlham, IA 50072Send business inquiries to: [e-mail]

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Texas front porch on the show. You might also know him as Tex Wesson, but text, I'm excited to have you on. Your name comes up every once in a while, different interviews. I'm like, man, I got to get the guy himself on here. So how's it going today, man? Oh, I can't complain if there's anybody that it wouldn't be legal. It's, I'm glad we finally got together because it's like you said, it's been a long time coming. So I'm glad we finally got it worked out. Absolutely. I don't even know if this episode's out yet. It might be out soon. But just talked to Ryan Edwards, and he had mentioned your name a few times about there was a little expedition that happened up on the Texas border, and that might come up later in the interview. Text, I like to start at the beginning.

And regarding Bigfoot, what was it that got you into this whole Bigfoot phenomenon to begin with there? it's really it's almost a whole lifetime thing honestly it's not i'm not one of those guys that you know had an encounter when he was a little bit of kid and i love big foot ever since you know the whole you hear a lot you know in search of and type thing it wasn't like that for me my family is from tetra canaan which is falk you know falk area and which is the boggy creek monster area so i grew up hearing those stories right and i can remember even before and I was knee-eyed or a short frog when this happened, but I can remember me and all my little cousins

when I go up there to visit. One story that you're real funny, we were all out in the backyard one night hunting the Boggy Creek monster with our little toy guns and everything. There was like five or six of us. One of my older cousins, he was 17, 18. And he was always a brinkster. He goes out the front yard, the front door,

climbs up on the roof with a gorilla mask, gone. Jumps down, it goes over the roof and jumps down in the middle of all of us screaming. It was like, we scattered like a cubby quail, except for me. I was not smart enough to run. I froze and stood there pulling a trigger on a toy gun thinking that's going to do any good. That doesn't speak to bravery. It speaks to stupidity, folks, you know, at a young age.

So I grew up hearing all that stuff. And it was always a fascination of mine back. type of thing. And I had some stuff happen when I was a young man and then boxed that in, they never talk about it. And we may talk about that later. But honestly, about eight years ago, I shared an encounter that I had for the first time went public on a young woman's channel. Her name is Daniel Stedman. And she liked the way I sounded. I don't know why. But anyway, she wanted me to do some voice work for her. And I kind of started doing some voice work for it. and then that led into me meeting another individual.

And I ended up co-hosting his show for a couple of years, but he was an actual field investigator and up on the Red River, which is not too far from me. It's about an hour. I live in Fort Worth, so it's about an hour away. So he invited me to come up there and do some research with him. And first we had a lot of the box, We get up there about 8.30 in the morning, and we're parked on the edge of a hayfield with a thin tree line between the hayfield and the wheat field.

And he's, we pull up, I park my truck, he's getting his camera and stuff with all that kind of stuff ready. I'm just taking in the land, right? Trying to pick out landmarks, that type of thing, get my bearings, so I don't get lost down these river bottoms. And I'm looking through this tree line. Tree line's about, I don't know, maybe five, ten yards thick. And I'm looking into this wheat field. And the wheat at that point was four feet tall, thereabouts.

And about 50 yards away, this thing stands up in the middle of the wheat field, solid black. Looks like he's going to cross the street, looks both ways and takes off running down into the bottoms. Now, I saw him from about the waist up until he hit the fire break. And I saw him for about two steps at the toe. and I had no explanation for what I just saw.

In fact, my exact words were I'm standing and I'm watching this thing and I'm a great one out there. And he was like, are he serious? There's like three people seen that thing and I haven't seen it yet. And it's like where he went. So we went down into the river bottoms and cut, we took a left and turned where it would take us across his path. And we start hearing.

something up on the ridge like every once in a while walking through the trees and then we'll hear what some people claim as wood knocking, what some people claim is mouth popping, I think it probably is both, and then we'd go about another hundred yards and we'd hear it again. And then we'd be this continued for a while.

We theorized what was going on was this was a, what everybody usually calls a sentinel or lookout. And we may have been, We may have had a family group or a clan or whatever in front of us. And he was hurting him in front of us, so we wouldn't walk up on him. And we really didn't have anything else happen, but like you need anything else happening, right?

That's 20. So that's what kicked it off for me. After that, I was hooked. And I started doing, and I started doing research on my own. And so I started doing something that not a lot of people do. I'm not saying I'm the first one to do it. I'm not saying I'm the only one to do it, but a lot of people don't like doing what I do.

And that's solo research. I would go out there and spend days and nights at a time by myself. And I found what I found was, one, this is a very active area. It's Brown Springs, Oklahoma. It's no secret. If you've been in the Bigfoot community for a while, you've heard about it. It's very notorious. some of the most seasoned researchers have said

they won't go out there during the day without a bunch of people and they won't go out there at night at all. I don't know. But it's nothing against them. I don't blame, okay? There's a lot of hinky stuff that goes on down there. But I guess it was the fact that I had grown up, being out in the country and being isolated like you are

when you live out in a rural area as a kid, you tend to do stuff either with alone or with your dog. That's your best friend. And that's what I did. Hunting, I fished, a trap,

just hiked and camped and everything. And I did a lot of it by myself. It wasn't, no, it wasn't any big deal to me. I just was doing it to do it, right? I just enjoyed being out there. But what I realized was that when

you start, when you have an encounter, it opens your eyes and you're looking for stuff that you've never looked for. You're listening for stuff that you've never listened to the world. And I realized that

in an active area, these things are very curious. We're their entertainment. We're their TV. We're the reality shows. Right. So you don't have to go out in the middle of the woods going,

here, big put. Just be yourself. And if they're there, they're going to come check you out because they're very curious. Now, as far as a lot of people talk about, they talk about being marked or these things that choose to let you see them. I can't speak to any of that.

I don't know. I don't think any of us know. And that's one of the big problems. A lot of people claim to know because a lot of people claim to communicate with these beings. And I personally have not had that. experience yet. I'm not saying it don't happen. I'm just saying I haven't had that experience. But what I have had is a lot of interaction with them. I've been cheek to cheek with them.

There was a thin, not a tent wall between this, but it's one of those things where once it happens, you usually act, usually react in one or two ways. You either jump feet first into it or you never. step foot back in the woods again. But there's really no in between with it that I've found, of course, doing my show and talking to hundreds of people. And that's another thing that really drives what I do now is giving people a safe platform. Because you can't talk to just anybody about these experiences that we have. You may go years and years most of your life believing that's something.

out there. But once you cross that line into knowing that something's out there that's not supposed to exist, it's supposed to be a legend, there's a switch that flips. And you either realize that you're not, you're not number one in the woods. Okay, you're, you are not at the top of the food chain. I'm not saying these things are evil. I'm not saying they're vicious or anything

like that. They're no different than, than different tribes of people. If Grandpa Bigfoot was shot, he's going to raise his clan to where they may not tolerate us as much. But there again, you hear stories of the indigenous peoples having relationships with these beings and trading with them and learning from them and vice versa.

So I think it varies. It's no different than going down and paddling down to Congo, coming to a village, walking up in there, and you're treated like a god, you're getting a you're fed a feast and all this kind of stuff and you say your goodbyes you get back in your little canoe and you go back down you go back ten miles down the river you know the village you walk in you are the feast it's no different than that these things can't be blamed for doing something they can't be called evil just because they do what they do they do they do to survive and it's I think it's a fine line between and I think it has a lot to do with research If you go out there and you disrespect, their house. That's what you're doing, folks. You have to remember, you've got to lose this attitude of,

I planted by flag. I own this place. No, you do not. You do not own the land. You're in their living room. How would you act if somebody come in and just dumped a bunch of trash in your living room? Somebody's getting a butt-whip, right? It's the same thing.

They're going to try to run you out. You always hear these stories about people who've been escorted out of the woods and that type of thing. Do you blame them? I wouldn't want us in there anyway. We're like locust. So it's something you have to go in there. And I think they sense intent, no different than a dog does,

no different than a horse does. Those animals are perfectly, they're perfect judge as a character. Okay. I think as far as the intelligent level of these creatures or critters, as I love what they call lovingly call them, they're on part with killer whales.

And I get beat up. Every time I say that, it, be up about it. Oh, they're more, they're smarter than a kiddle whale. You need to look at what, you need to research killer whales because you're talking about something, an animal that is self-aware that greaves, has funerals, mates for life, and teaches and adapts and it strategizes. Look at the video of, I think, I can't remember if it's two or three, orcas, they synchronize their attack and wash a sea line off of a piece of ice so they can eat it.

Okay? And there's a lot of examples like that. When a different pod comes into their territory, they teach what they know to this other pod. They teach different hunting techniques. If you took all that I just said, and instead of orca a killer whale, you put big foot in front of it, you've got everything that everybody talks about these creatures doing. And so it's, there's a lot more to the natural world than we think there is.

And when I say natural world, I think these beings, these critters have been a part of our natural world for eons. They're probably older than we are. And a lot of what we've learned through the thousands of years, tens of thousands of years, we can probably credit to them. either just by observing what they do or actually have interactions with them.

So I went off on a tangent there, but getting back to the research aspect of it, if you want to call it that, unless you're going out in the field and you're writing data down in your book and you're doing this and you're doing that. And it's hard to call, for me, it's hard to call myself a researcher, that that makes sense. I'm an enthusiast, I guess you could say. I'm out there for the experience. Do I get evidence and bring it to the table? Absolutely. We've pulled out some of the best physical evidence that's been pulled out of the field in years.

We've got handprints and forearm prints and elbow prints. We pulled off of my truck. And we got the dermal ridges in the fingerprints, the whole nine yards. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages. If you want something done right, you do it yourself. That's why you change your own oil. You wouldn't trust your engine to just anybody. So go with the full synthetic motor oil you can trust.

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We identified, what happened was I was doing a live show up in the cemetery. Brown Springs got a famous cemetery. It sits up off the hill about 100 yards. And one thing that's really neat about this cemetery, it's got a freshwater and cold water spring that runs directly underneath it and bubbles out at the bottom of the cemetery where you park. Okay. and so you got the Red River

which is got a hairy salt and it's got a it's very salty for a freshwater body of water but it's also got a lot it's muddy it's called the Red River for a reason and then you've got this fresh water clear water spring that has been used by humans for years

and you've got it's and it's a wildlife management area you've got just mountains of prey out there for them. You've got wild plum thickets, you've got ponds, you've got walnuts, you've got all this kind of stuff. It's a perfect area. The only thing is you've also got

the humans that run around out there, okay? But they've gotten pretty good if they don't want to be seen, they're not seen. But anyway, I was doing a live show from a cemetery and my safety team, one of my trackers and his son was down at the bottom, parking their truck. And so I'm up in the cemetery doing a live show. My phone dies and I'm doing the show on. Basically, it's a dad to let up there to make sure I'm okay. In the rush to leave, they left the truck unlocked, the keys in ignition,

and all of our electronics just sitting out there. Okay? They also had a bareproof Yeti cooler in the back that was closed and locked. or latched. They run up the hill. We find each other. It takes about 30 minutes for us and we walk back down. When we get down there, we got handprints all over both trucks.

We identified three different sets of prints. Okay. The cooler had been opened and closed but not latched. There was water that was dribbled over the tailgate that looked like somebody had opened. in the chest and reached down and scoop their hand in and you got some water and just dribbled it over the tailgate water and ice and the ice hadn't melted yet so that tells you something also on the one of the interesting things was on the top of his cab there were two handprints on the top edge of his cab with water drip down in between them now being a man with the beard this happens when you scoop water in your hands and get a drink he goes down your beard and drips So if this thing was leaning on the top of the cab, standing in the back of the truck, had just gotten to drink out of the cooler, he's got water dripping out of his beard directly between his handprints, watching them run up the hill to get me.

We took photos of these. We didn't have any, unfortunately, we didn't have any clear tape to pull the prints with, but we did take pictures. They're very good pictures. Like I said, you can actually see. The, my favorite one is actually muddier than my truck. Okay. You can see what looks like.

It's just gorgeous. The forearm print is gorgeous. You can see the hair. And the handprint is absolutely beautiful. The dermal ridges that are in the fingerprints are awesome. I've had it looked at by fingerprint experts on the law enforcement side of things and on the wildlife side of things. every one of them tells me the same thing.

I can't tell you what that is, but I can tell you it's not human. Because the dermal ridges on every human, I don't care who you are, swirl. The dermal ridges on a primate are horizontal. These are horizontal. Another thing is, every handprint was smaller than anybody on the team. And none of them are above, like, the edge of the back of the pickup or the hood of the pickup. They're all that high. They're lower.

and it looks like they're reaching up. So whatever these things were, they were either squatting down or they were short. That left all this evidence. So that's really interesting. So do you think it may have been that you were dealing with some juveniles that day?

That's what I think. A lot of people have suggested that maybe it was the little people, that type of thing. I don't know. I can't speak to that. But I think we were looking at probably three juveniles. That had come out of, there's a little marshy area that the spring runs into across the road.

And I think that they were in this little marshy area watching us. And when they lit out, they came and poked around. There was nothing missing. There was no drinks misman out of the cooler. There was none of the electronics had been touched. Like I said, the keys were in the truck. If this had been humans more than likely, all that expensive equipment, no cameras around, no other than like that, that's easy pickings.

But that's, and we pulled another handprint too, but one came from camp. We were, there was five or six of us, I think, sitting around campfire one night when we was talking. And this was about two miles down. road from where these other we got these other handprints and this we were sitting around the campfire room and when we had to pee one of the guys um had parked next to um a gully that was on one side of the uh campsite his SUV and when we wanted to pee we just get up going the other side of his SUV and pee so he gets up and he goes to go pee he goes hey which one of

sorry SOBs, put your greasy handprint on my truck. Like, why are you

talking about man? It goes, man, come in and look at this. There's this

handprint, huge handprint, bigger than anybody's there, bigger than I got pretty good size paws. It dwarfed mine.

But there it was. Big old greasyy handprint towards the top of his SUV. We did pull that one. That is in a bag,

frozen in his freezer. We're investigating different places to send it because you have to be very picky about that. And it's very expensive to get DNA done. I'm sure everybody can realize us up. So we're actually looking for some backing. Somebody's really interested in this. But we're not going to give them the full thing.

It's go, here you go. We can't do that. But another thing is right where we had been, and this was right, where we'd been peeing was pretty much right below this. and I've got pictures of this too and I get beat up for not doing this but I'm going to tell you why I didn't

I didn't do what I'm about to say okay so you can see where we were our little P-marked right in the middle of it where we had been P-in is it's probably two foot in diameter wet spot right

it looks like this thing had just leaned against the SUV watching us at the campfire and just cut loose right there it's like a horse it took up the leak right there, right? And we discussed this. Right there on the spot. Let's get a sample.

We can get DNA. That'd be great, except it had already been contaminated with us. So, anytime you turn DNA in and they find human DNA, they toss it out. Oh, it's contaminated.

So it would do no good to take anything. Even when they do come up with the other side of it, which is usually unknown primate, they use that human DNA is just to toss it out. So that's why, and I actually made the call on not taking samples of the dirt there. And it was like, we wouldn't do us any good. But we do have a handprint and it's frozen and it's got the oil from the hand on it. There are some studies going on with that kind of stuff.

So we're hoping to get into that. that is that's fascinating that you were able to capture that evidence and you've got it in the freezer now you'd we mentioned before that this brown springs areas if you're in the bigfoot community you've heard of it it just it has there's certain areas that have a certain lore to it how far back has this area been known for bigfoot are there certain events that happen that really put it into the zeitgeist of okay that's this spot is wild for Bigfoot stuff. It is, there is, I mean, for years and years going back, there's been Bigfoot stories coming out of southeast Oklahoma in the Red River area, okay, all over, all up and down to Red River. But Brown Springs has a very dark and notorious history to it anyway. It was a, back in the day, it was a river, it was, that's where the river crossing was,

that's where that freshwater spring was. people congregated there. The cemetery that sits on top of the hill that I was talking about, the youngest death date there is 1924. And from what we can determine, it originally started out as a burial mound for the cato people. Okay? This is way back when.

Now, the Chickasaw are there too. And you also got some chalk tall and all in the area, right? There was a gentleman called, his last name was Love, the county's named after him, the wildlife management area right there where we go, where Brown Springs is named Dracring. He's very well known. He was American Indian, right? And he used that cemetery as his family cemetery, and then other folks used it as a community

cemetery. And there was countless encounters between the settlement, and the Indians in that area. There's also, you pass forward in history a little bit, the DFW, the Dallas-Fort Worth Mafia used that area as a body dump. There's also, and there's,

we filmed a little documentary down there one time, and two weeks after we filmed the documentary there was a body found. So it's very, it's still stranger to the dark side of things. It's known for a cult activity. We ran across some evidence. of that. That's a story. We got surrounded by cops one night.

And, but there's a, it's still an open case and you can't find out hardly any information on it because it's still an open case. But there was a couple that was killed out there and they were parking. It sounds like the beginning of a horror story, or horror movie, but they were parking out there and they didn't come back. People went looking for them. And this was, I think this was either 86, I think it was. 1986 when they found them the man was tossed over in the

brush and depending on what story you get his either his head was turned around backwards or he was bent and half backwards and just tossed over in the brush the woman had been she was spread eagle on the hood of the car

she had been brutalized in a way that tore her from stem to stern she was also disembowed Okay. So for years and years, people blame Bigfoot on that because of what the strength that had to have to do this. We had it remote viewed. And depending on how much credit you put into this, the remote viewing phenomenon, what we got, the information we got back on that was that it was a cult activity. and that goes into some weird stuff because you start talking about people

turning into vampires and werewolves and all that kind of stuff at certain levels. It's a deep rabbit hole. But that's what they picked up on. And that was Jessica Jones that did that for us. She's very skilled, very skilled. I had a time lots incident. And she in Brown Springs,

another one of those weird things that happened when I was out there doing research. And it's, she were no view of that. for me and came back with some weird stuff and that was pretty much verified through a psychic medium that I'm with that I'm that I work with told me the same thing and didn't even know who I was at the time didn't know that I had anything had talked to Jessica about this or anything okay and told me the same thing that Jessica had told me so that's you know

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I'm still in denial about it really. But it's, when you start talking about that kind of stuff and we run across so much weird things, there's odd stuff out there, not really paranormal or Bigfoot related, but just natural stuff. We find clothes that are folded out there out in the middle of the woods. And then, of course, then you get into the paranormal aspect of things. But, and we've had that happen. We've been, there have been 12,

13, I was sitting around a camp, and we've got a woman laughing in the woods on both sides of camp from time to time. It's just, you get, you record weird whistles, and you got disembodied voices, all kinds of stuff that we pulled out. And, but there was,

I had taken a paranormal team up there with me at one point. And it was me and a buddy Mount Bob and then Amy, Laney, and her husband Cody. And they were in his truck, and me and Bob were in my truck. And they wanted to go to cemetery one night, and I was going to take them up there.

We put to the, where you park? We're right there at the spring. And we didn't even have a chance to get out of our truck. And we were surrounded by five cop cars. There was three sheriff's deputies and two tribal police. Okay. And so we gingerly get out of the truck, because we didn't know what was going on.

And the lead officer, I took charge, whatever. He was a tribal, tribal officer. He goes, what are y'all doing out here? And I grand, and he goes, are y'all out here big foot hunting? And I said, yeah, I said, we're the cryptic guys, and that's the paranormal team. I'm going to pick him up sentinel. And we started talking.

I spent about 45 minutes talking to these officers. And everybody's heard about, everybody's heard about the Tiger King in Oklahoma. He had a tiger sanctuary or Big Cat Sanctuary. and then he got thrown in jail, somebody took it over, closed it down. That original place was about 40 miles from where I'd do my research.

When they closed it down, he went away, and they reopened and they moved it to within a mile and a half, two miles from my research area. Okay? When they got shut down

and the authorities came in, there were 17 big cats and tigers that were unaccounted for. Okay. So these, officers start telling us they asked us if we're armed and we weren't at the time and I said we got back at camp which is was Jason McLean and he can speak to this when he talked to him he was back at camp and he had his pistol and he had his own little experience that night too and he's like we

encourage everybody to carry a sidearm here you know and there are there's drug activity in the place there's a cold activity in the place it's protection but he said we've had tiger sightings. And this is how I found out about the whole Tiger King situation. These officers told me that. He said, we've had reported tiger sightings in the area, so we encourage everybody to carry a sidearm. I'm like, we need tigers?

Like, we don't have enough to do with, but I get to talking to them. And normally this doesn't happen. They got to tell me that two of their officers, big foot sidings right there in that area. How often do you, how often do you get a different? chance for indigenous people's law enforcement to open up to you and tell you this kind of stuff. And one of the officers also told me that he'd had a paranormal experience in the cemetery when he was younger. So there's a lot of stuff that goes on out there. It's not just Bigfoot. The place is, like I said, got a very dark history. There's a lot of bad juju out there. You have to be

prepared to deal with that when you go out there, especially like when I go out there by myself. So Texas, this is, this is some heavy stuff, man. I had no idea what we were getting into with this Brown Springs area. Guys, I don't know if I would go to this area without the proper people that knew what they were doing, especially if there's tigers out there. My goodness. And tigers aren't the only thing you got to worry about. That's just the newest thing.

Honestly, you've got the biggest concern out there. There's two big, huge concerns out there. And that's really the reason. we all started packing. We all started carrying out there was really not just the tigers. There's a huge feral pig population out there. And also you have the great North American meth head population. You run into, which is unfortunate, but it's part of what you have to deal with.

And then when you still the occult activity on top of everything, and you've got the tigers and you've got the occasional bear, the least of my worries are the big. foot. Honestly, because folks, if you've ever been camping out in the middle of nowhere, these state parks and wildlife

refuges and national parks, odds are. Odds are. These things have been around you, and you just didn't know it. One of my favorite things is for somebody to walk walk, well, I've been hunting 50 years. I've never

seen one. Were you looking for or were you paying attention to that 10-point buck that you were trying to get a shot on that you've been baited for a year? Oh, wait a minute. That buck walked behind you and you never saw him? Oh, but you've never seen Bigfoot. Okay, yeah, it's understandable. Exactly.

Man, this area in, I'm not a video game guy because I don't have the time, but it feels like, man, if they wanted to make a Grand Theft Auto down there, it'd be the perfect area. You got all the weird stuff. It'd be a crazy game area. But how you've got all this stuff in this area. So there's a lot going on. And how big approximately is this area to contain all this like cult stuff, Bigfoot, Tiger, Escapies, all this wild stuff?

Oh, it's thousands of acres. Okay. Thousands of acres. And the thing about it is, some of it's so thick that you're not going to go further. It takes you If you're going to go anywhere And that's what a lot of people don't understand A lot of people that have never been out in the brush

Okay When you talk about walking through the woods You're talking about a manicured area by a state park You're talking about I'll walk through the trails Walk down these trails that's been laid out for you and everything Go out and no don't do not I'm sorry I said that do not go out in the brush off trail

because you don't know what you're doing. And it's like you said, don't go to these places unless you're with somebody knows what they're doing or you know what you're doing. I cannot tell you how many people

go out there with a bottle of water. And that's it. That's where we run into this whole missing 4-1-1 phenomenon that's going on. There's no one reason for that stuff happening. It's a smorgasbord.

of things that happen. Number one, being human error in arrogance and stupidity. Are cryptids on the list? Absolutely. Are there other nefarious things? Absolutely. But you can't blame it on one thing. You just can't do it.

But nine times out of ten, it's just stupidity. It's ill preparedness. It's ignorance. Looking at one, I'm going to make one more Tiger comic. Can you imagine going around the corner in this area? area and you see a tiger in a big foot and a knockdown, drag out, just all war. It could happen. Like, they could be having to battle each other for food source in this area.

Absolutely. Absolutely. And it may have happened. It wouldn't surprise me if it had. Have I seen it? Have I heard it? No. But if you ask Jason, I've ran in.

I've had a tiger can counter out there. and it took place a few years before we ran into this policeman. I was up there. In fact, it was my first time that I had ever been out there so low. And I had shot my mouth off on a show one night. And I said, because everybody's talking about how spooky this place was

and how they wouldn't go out there. I'm like, why, it's just, you just, it's woods. I've been doing this all my life. What's the difference?

So I said, I'll do it. I did it. I went out there by myself when I was about 10.30 at 9, 11.30 at 9, something like that. And I drove up there. Like I said, it's the first time I was driven up there by myself. And I went, I was, I said, I'll go to the cemetery by myself. And everybody was like, oh, don't do that.

You're crazy. Blah, blah, blah. And I was, ah, whatever. I go up there and I get out of my truck. And I'm hearing footfalls all around me in the trees. And I heard a couple of whoops over to my right. And I'm like, I had the feeling I was surrounded, right? And I'm like, maybe this wasn't the brightest idea I ever had, right?

So I get back in my truck, I drive up in here. At that point in time, you didn't even have cell service down there. And all I had with me was a little pin light, pocket knife, and my phone. That's all I had with me. Because I wasn't going to be, I knew where I'd been there, I knew where I was going, I knew to move there, you know, all that kind of stuff. But I drive up where I've got cell service, I make a few phone calls, people are telling me I don't need to do this, and all this kind of stuff.

I said, I was going to do it. I'm going to do it. So I drove back down, and I could still hear some footfalls, but it wasn't as an intense feeling as it was the first time I'd been there, knock an hour before. And I decided, okay, I'm going to go ahead and do this. Pardon me. And so I start walking up the trail, and I'm going to. I've got my voice recorder running on my phone.

I start walking up the trail. And you hear me say, oh, I just heard a little growl over here to my left and it had a little purr to it. And you got to remember, this is before we were finding out about the tiger. Right. So I'm thinking that's something else, right? And so I get up to the top of the cemetery. And when you get at the top of the trail, right there at the top cemetery, there's a An old tree and a grave right behind it.

That's the first grade in the cemetery. And it's the youngest grave in the cemetery. So I'm standing there and I'm looking around. I got a little pinlight with me and I turn around and I look over my left shoulder and I catch some eyes shining trees. And what was peculiar about this is ashen. Now, I'm not one to panic about eyes shine because if you're out in the wood, you're going to get eyeshine. It's going to happen, right? But this eye shine was different.

the eyes were like they were about big around a silver dollar and had about eight inches between them six to eight something like that inches between them that's big okay and it's about i don't know three feet off the ground or so i'm like oh this is cool it starts like playing peekaboo behind a tree with me type thing and but i'm like oh this is cool this is what i came here for i'm thinking it's a big foot i'm hoping right because i'm going through my head trying to figure out what else could be this. This could be natural, what we call natural normal. The only thing I could come up,

the only two things I could come up with is it's either a horse laying now or a cow laying down, right? With that much outspread between the eyes and that big around. But I'm thinking, okay, hey, might be looking at a bigfoot, right? And I'm thinking, this is cool. Then it stood up, and when it stood up, it moved forward. too. You know how you're squatting down and when you stand up most of the time they'll take a step

forward, you know, when you stand up, that's how it moved. That's what it looked like. And when it got about my height, I decided it was time to back out. So I walked back down, I got my truck and I left. I did what I said I was going to do. But that got the ball rolling. It didn't scare me off or nothing like that. And there's other stuff that happened to me when I was a young man that, you know, maybe we can get into, maybe we can't. An encounter that I had that I just tempered me for what I do now, I guess. But anyway, so if you asked Jason, that was a tiger that I ran into. If you asked me, I'm not so sure. It could have been a tiger.

Could have been at Bigfoot. I don't know. It could have been something else. That's some while you were lucky that night. poor sure. Yeah, probably. Yeah, I'll use one of my nine lies, I'm sure. Absolutely.

Something that I'm noticing while I'm looking, I always have a map pulled up while I do these. Right. I'm noticing that another area that I've gotten a lot of weird stuff from is you've got Lake Texoma just to the east of this area. Yes. There's a lot of weird. Dude, I used to make, I would do story videos over on TikTok.

about a year ago. And I got a lot of people reaching out about Lake Texoma. And it wasn't just Bigfoot stuff. It was, and we had dog man stuff. We had, there's a big outbreak of people seeing this like pale, white, skinny creature, like a pale crawler sometimes it's called. And there are residents seeing it. Yeah, just that area is nuts.

Yeah, that whole Red River basin is, it's, Kind of like the Sulphal River Basin, too, in Texas. Both of those areas are just inundated with encounters and stories that you'll hear with all kinds of entities. Brown Springs, too. Brown Springs has got the, I've got a picture that was taken by a researcher years ago. He's passed now. That appears to be catarine-like up in the cemetery. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Use us directed. There's also a picture that I've got of his that appears to be a big foot laying down on its belly behind a barbed wire fence right there in the cemetery. These places are no stranger to the stuff that we talk about. And I don't know, and I know a lot of people talk about the whole orb phenomenon and everything like that. We've had some strange occurrences like that. We caught something on thermal that we can't explain. and it's what do you do with it? I had about a 30 minute conversation with the guy that runs Skinwalker Ranch

and we weren't on camera and I thought it was just a private conversation and Thomas, the manager over there. And because I wanted to get him away and talk to him in private and we and him had a conversation because I run into a lot of the same stuff, a lot of the same phenomenon, get a lot of the same readings that they do. Okay. So my first question to him was, have you figured out a way to determine what's physical and what's paranormal that you're running into?

After about a 10-minute rant, his short answer was no. So they're having the same issue we are. Oh, that's bonkers. That's Thomas Winterton from out there in Skinwalker, I believe you're referring to. That's pretty cool. You were able to chat with him about that. That is so wild. There's something that you had shared way earlier,

and I'd want to make sure that I want to get into that for a little bit. And you're talking about what you saw in that wheat field. Now, you said you saw it for a few steps where you got to see pretty much a lot of whatever that creature was. Did you remember any details of what you saw that when you think back on them, like, wow, what I was seeing was definitely a big foot rather than a person. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Unless there was an eight-foot-tall basketball player-built person wearing a black hairy suit

running through a wheat field in the middle of freaking South Oklahoma, I don't know what else it could have been. because like I said, the wheat field, the wheat we measure is four feet tall. Okay. I could seem from the waist up until he hit the fire break. That puts him at eight feet, right? That's the math I work on anyway.

And then when he hit the fire break that's mowed around the field, I saw him head to toe for about two or three steps. But he was not this big, massive, bulky, thing that we hear so much about like the paddy type creatures or the Ohio grassman. They're just massive. The ones that we have down here in the south tend to be a little smaller and leaner built. That's how this one was. He was solid black covered and the hair looked slick, very well groomed.

He didn't have the conical head. He had the round head, which is not unusual. You see both. We have reports of both. And the other one I saw in my other daylight siding was completely opposite of this one. As far as coat goes, it was almost weird. And I saw him through my binoculars. But the grace in which these things move is phenomenal.

They move like dancers because their head does not bob. When they run, they walk, it doesn't matter. any movement they make they never lock their knees so they have that natural shock absorber it's almost like using a gimbal on a camera it stabilizes the rest of their body and the ease with which they negotiate stuff that we have to pick our way through is just phenomenal it's unbelievable but yeah and the proportions are different too on these critters too it's just but they're just off. The forearms seem longer.

They hang lower. Their hands are lower on the leg than like a human would be. And they don't have as, I know what everybody talks about this, but it's true. They don't have their, I think it's the trapeze muscles in the back. They're huge.

So it appears they don't have a neck. It's not that they don't have a neck. It's just they have massive freaking trapeze muscles. And that's, that's what you that's what I saw yeah so he wasn't like Arnold Schwarger now he's had a basketball player build very muscular but he was lean thank thank you for sharing some more details about what you saw that day you also have alluded to there was a sighting that you had as a younger man that really affected you affected the rest of your

life when it comes to this Bigfoot phenomenon Yeah, and I wish I could sit here and tell you it was a big foot Because it would be a heck of a lot easier to explain, but it wasn't It was what everybody calls now a dogman This was before the term dogman was even coined I was 16 years old, I'll be 58 in March That was back when we were still riding on stone tablets But I was, and like I said earlier

I grew up doing all this stuff by myself Maybe I might have my dog with me or might be riding a horse but for the most part I'd do all the camping and the fishing and the trapping and the hunting and all so on so by myself. And that's what I had been doing. I had been out rabbit hunting and I was walking home and I was going down a white gravel road that bordered one side of our place. The sun hadn't went down yet. So I had plenty of daylight and I'm on white gravel road anyway. Walking down the road, I got two rabbits hanging off my belt and an empty 410.

That's what I had, right? this thing comes charging out of the brush on the left-hand side. I don't know if I woke it up, if I pissed it off. I don't know what happened, but he was in full stride when he came out of the brush. I don't know if he was hunting something and I got in the way. I don't know. But he ran across the road in front of me about 25, 30 feet away.

And I'm on foot, guys, okay? and the image I have frozen in my head I'll never forget it and I can sit down and draw a picture of it and I'm not a talented artist but you can get there definitely get the idea but

he turned his head and he growled at me in stride and that's when you don't get me wrong the whole thing was absolutely terrifying but and much like when I was a kid and my cousin's surprise was I froze and this thing was about seven and a half feet tall. I didn't think it was that tall for years.

But later, just several years ago, I was walking, I was at work, and I was walking through the building with a friend of mine, a huge guy, he was like 65, 6'6, 6.6. And that's where I put the height of this critter at, okay? And we were talking about my encounter, And he goes, well, text, how tall was this thing? And I told him, I said, I don't know about you're out there. And maybe seven feet, I don't know.

I said, he wasn't no taller than in doorways right there, that doorway. He goes, he literally put his hand on my chest, stop me. He goes, text those right foot doors. I saw crap, you're right. So he may have been about seven and a half feet tall. Okay. But irregardless of how tall the thing was, he had that same build. except that the Bigfoot had, but this was not a Bigfoot.

His coat was thinner. The hair was longer, but you could see the skin underneath until you, except on, like, starting between his ears, down his back. It went down, it was like a mane that went down his back and the V across his shoulders. His ears were very canine-like, and they were pinned back. Like if you upset a dog or a horse, they'll pin those ears back, right? They didn't get ready to either fight or fight. They're trying to decide what they're going to do.

But they pin them ears back for protection and they opens them up so I can hear stuff. His ears were pinned back and he snarled at me. That's what I remember. The eyes were very dog-like. They were brown. Okay. He didn't have this elongated snout. It was a shorter, blunter snout.

mouth that he had. He didn't have this just mouthful of freaking gnarly-looking teeth. They were just very canine looking. And there's an old wives tale that if you want to get a smart dog, get one with black in his mouth. Okay?

When he growled at me, when he snarled at me, he gave me a chance to see his gums and his tongue. They were both pink and black modeled, like a canine. okay he was very canine looking and his hands were yeah very

his chest was like very big and he was very narrow at the hip and his thighs were big okay his hands were not human they were not human they were human-esque but they were also almost like a raccoon type hand also so it's the cross

The skin underneath the hair was like a charcoal, and his coat was black with some gray in it. So he may have had some age to him, I don't know. When it came down to his feet, and I know a lot of people that they talk about that backward-facing leg, okay, they're dog-legged. Sorry, folks, the biomechanics do not operate like that. I just will not on a bipedal creature. You've seen dogs stand up and walking around legs, they're awkward. okay there's a reason that these things move can move bipedally

but it's not awkward like a dog and I'll tell you why one is the hip the hip placement is different the whole torso and the hips or everything were very human okay I don't remember if he had a tell or not I never draw it with a tail so I assume he didn't have one

but what I noticed was he was up on his toes and his foot was as you go back towards the hill which was off the ground is this long and narrow and I think that's what I'm not saying

there's not dog-legged critters out there I'm not saying that there may be very well be but I think a lot of it is misidentification when people are looking at this they see that hill that's brought up off of the ground and they're standing on their toes which allows them

just phenomenal speed and agility and balance. I think that's what people are seeing and in there thinking, oh, that's dog-legged. No, it's really not. But when he ran across the road in front of me, and he dove over, and he was on two legs, and when he dove over our five-strand bobwire fence was about five feet tall,

he dove over it. And when he dove over that fence and went down on the other side, he went down to all fours. And it was a very smooth transition. Didn't have bones or tendons, creaking or snapping or anything like that. And we have down here what we call love grass. It's just, it's, you see it in a lot of our fields out here. It's just a very tall, about three, three and a half foot grass that covers the pastures.

It's a native grass. When he hit this and went down to all fours, I saw the grass move for a little bit and then he was gone. When at that point, I had a decision. to make it. I know this seems, when you're telling it, it seems very long and drawn out, but I'm trying to get as much detail as I can in here because I want people to understand my mindset and everything because I was terrified. But, and I know this is weird. It's like I didn't get the sense that he wanted to kill me. He just, he like turned his head, grout at me like more of a, you stay right where you are type thing. Don't leave me alone. That type of. That type

thing. But I had a decision to make, because I was fixing across the fence right there and take a shortcut across our pasture and go home. Because our house set on the other side of our property. So I had a decision to make. I could either cross the fence and follow him into his tall grass

or I could stay on the road and take the long way home. And so I did. I walked up that road that's bordered one side of our place across the, a teed into another road that was on the front of our place and our driveway was on the opposite side. the whole walk is pretty much a blurter.

I don't remember a whole lot of it. I do remember, like turning that first corner and thinking to myself, I don't have any ammo. I've got a basically a free foot club. Maybe I'll get a swing at him if he comes at me. Maybe. But the rest of the walk is really just a blur.

Obviously, I was in shock. And I walked in the house, and we lived on a trailer house, and I walked in the back door, and I pretty much just fell into a kitchen chair and put my gun on the table. That was a big freaking mill in my house. No guns in the kitchen, much less on the kitchen, freaking table. My mom was in the kitchen. I don't remember what she was doing. She was doing dishes.

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And so she called my sister. And she says, get over here. There's something on with your brother. my sister came over and it took them to the better part of an hour to calm me down enough where I could speak and tell them what I encountered. They didn't tell me I was crazy. They didn't tell me I was lying. But they did try to maybe help me rationalize what I'd seen. Maybe I had been, maybe I saw something else. Maybe there was a brutality. Maybe there's a wolf.

Maybe there was a homeless man. What we called hobos back then. And it scared me and my imagination took over type thing. But I stepped in my guns. And my mom and my sister on that topics, on those kind of topics, like I said, my family's from Texas, Canada. They grew up with this kind of stuff, right?

They never told me that I didn't see what I said I saw. They never told me that was crazy. They told me I was lying. I had a very good support system. But we never talked about it a whole lot either. It did get brought up to the point

to where we gave their nickname, and I dealt with it in a humorous humor. That was my coping mechanism. But it set me back on my heels for almost a year. I wouldn't go anywhere. I didn't get off the property. If I had to go to the barn or I had to go feed or break ice out of the water drop or whatever, I went loaded for bear.

I didn't take my little gun. I took my dad's gun and I loaded it up, right? And so I became scared of the dark, which was totally unlike me. Here I am now. I'm 16 years old. and I've been camping and hunting, fishing, shraping, and all this stuff, all my line by myself.

And we had what's called, a lot of people call my booger light. It's basically a street lamp on your property. It's the only light we had out there. I remember we had 20 acres. It wasn't another other light, right? But if I had to go to my sister's house or back from my sister's house and it was dark,

it was at a dead run. I went through this for about, I don't know, like I said, about a part of a year. And I got mad because I felt like I was being bullied. I couldn't go anywhere, that type of thing. And I said, I'm not going to let this happen. I started going out, taking baby steps, going a little bit further, going to a little bit further, go camping the backyard, go camping a pasture,

do this, that type of thing. And I finally got back to doing what I was doing. Okay. And I was going to this place that I hunted. The fact, the place I was coming from when I saw this thing. I was just about to jump over the fence on this property that I was able to hunt and was very thick. He had to travel the game trails, but just this hunting was phenomenal there. And I heard something or somebody walking in the trees, and I couldn't see them.

And, but there was a set of twins that I went to school with, and they lived on the other side of this 1,200 acres. And we all hunted this place. So I thought maybe it was them. So I hollered out, hey, who's out there? and this thing, whatever it was, stopped. I said, hey, if that's somebody out there, let me know. And I just checked this weight. I said, hey, look, David Doug, that one of y'all, give me shout, man.

Just, shit with his weight. I said, look, I said, if you don't say something, I'm going to fire. Well, that's what I did. And probably not the smartest decision I've ever made, but I popped around off up in the air. And that's when all hell broke loose. This thing, I'm charging through the trees. It sounded like a bull. It was breaking branches, the whole nine yards.

And I'll be honest with you, man. I didn't want to see it. I took tail and I ran the entire way back home, which is about a mile. Never looked back. Never look back. If this thing was fixing to snatch me up, me, I didn't want to know about it. And about a year before my first sighting with that thing, we'd had a dog that went up, that went missing in the course of country.

You got several dogs and they all live outside. but one of them went missing and we found all the way we found it was start smelling it we started smelling and so he was under the house it's not going to go under and get him so i got to crawl in there and get him so i drug him out and it literally looks like somebody i noticed this is brutal and it's sad and it's disturbing but i'm just being honest with you it looked like somebody held him up by his front legs and just gutted him and my dad and this is before i saw anything encountered anything or anything like that. My dad told me,

looks like he probably got into it with a bobcat, crawled up in your back. Okay, that perfectly good explanation for me. Dad knows more or not there. And there was always reports of animals going missing, pets going missing foals and calves and everything else could tore up or going missing that type of thing, chickens, you name it.

And everybody, it was always blamed on either a big cat mountain lion, which they did come through the area on the rare occasion, or this mysterious pack of wild dogs that me or any of my friends that tromped out in the woods ever saw we never saw this mysterious pack of wild dogs

never heard of nothing cowards absolutely but this mysterious pack of wild dogs that would just tear these animals to pieces and we never saw you know anyway so yeah there's that text that that is probably one of the most intense accounts that has been on this podcast so far

thank you for sharing something that is it's got to be that i can't imagine having to recall that and to share something like that so i appreciate you sharing it on the show would you ever if you had the the choice between the two, what would you rather encounter out in the field, Bigfoot or Dogman? I've encountered Bigfoot. I've seen him twice during the daylight. I've seen three or four times at night. I've had multiple encounters where I didn't seem, but I'm pretty sure it was him. But the dog man, I've only seen ones. And honestly, I still question what I saw. And I think everybody does when they have. these encounters, even Bigfoot encounters. But that dog man thing,

it's so different. The physiology, the physiology, bio mechanics that have to exist for this stuff to work. It's easier for people to believe that a Bigfoot existed than a freaking weird wolf. And that's the only thing I knew to call him when I was age.

I saw a werewolf. I didn't say dog man. I didn't even know the time then. But I'd like to see one again. If I had my brothers, I'd rather run into a big foot. course, but on a personal level, I'd like to see another, I'd like to see another dog man or whatever that thing was, just for verification, just for validation on my part.

But because you question, you can freaking question your sanity, man, you know, much less talk about it. I didn't talk about that thing for years. Eight years ago was when I went public for this. Wow. And that's that channel I was talking about, where I told my first encounter. This is the encounter that I told. First time I went public about it and where are we now?

If you had told me then, I'd be talking to you on the phone or doing my own show about all those weird stuff, going out and looking for Bigfoot and stuff, I'd have told you you're nuts. But here I am. But people need to know. People need to know that they're not crazy, that they're not alone, that they have a safe place to go and not be judged. I don't care what you, I don't care if you mind speak to these things. I don't care if you think they're an ape or the dog man is a misidentified bigfoot. I don't care.

But people need a safe place to share their encounters and not be judged. And because you don't, you very seldom have a support system like I did. It's not like we sit around and talked about it all the time. But they didn't accuse me and stuff either. Because when you come out of that proverbial bigfoot closet or cryptic closet or even the paranormal or UFO closet, as far as that goes. UFOs maybe not so much anymore because that's a whole other show,

man. I know it. It is. But you get ridiculed. You lose credibility. I know. It happened to me. I had people that I worked with that had known for 15, 20 years. And when I came out of the closet on this stuff, my credibility was shot.

So I understand what people go through. I really do. and I don't care if you want to contact me or you or whatever because I know you. You're same as I am. Absolutely. Just because you contact me with your encounter doesn't mean I'm going to always, if you're going to contact me, you have to be on the show. No, no. If you're having, if you're having problems, if you're having, if you're suffering from PTSD for lack of a better term.

But if you're traumatized by these encounters or if you're trying to wrap your mind around it and you've got nobody. any talk to, reach out to any of us. Because if you just want to bend an ear, we're there. If you want to get out there and make it public, by all means we'll do that. And we'll give you a safe place to do it. We're not going to throw your name all over in the location all over in places. We're going to protect you.

But people need that. They deserve it. Because these encounters, and I know I'm getting up on my soapbox and I'm passionate about this. People need a place to go. We're not therapists by any means, but hey, I'll sit down and talk

are you all you want. Absolutely. And the cool thing about Texas front porch, and I think this might even be a good time for you to share about your show a little bit if you don't mind is you're not just talking about Bigfoot. You're talking about other things as well, right? Oh, absolutely. We go over the map.

And I primarily have a YouTube channel, but I'm also out there on every, any place in the podcast, we're out there. And it's not just me. I have a whole network. I have a team. We call ourselves an aisle on the misfit toys. Because that's how you feel when you're in this community.

And you have these experiences. And so I have so many people that I'm blessed to have as part of my team. And I can't, because I say my team and I don't really don't look at it that way. A lot of, most of them refer to it as the porch crew were more than that. You've got the blondes and booze. Their channel, you've got Donny Cho says stuff. You've got Danielle Diva, a phenomenal person. Monica Rawlins.

You might recognize that name. She's great. Yeah, she was on the first seasonal monster quest. She's part of our team. Jason McLean is part of our team. Bigfoot, Michigan, Rob. Great guy. One of the few people that I know that actually saw a Bigfoot and saw it vocalize at him.

it's we Randy Gilbert who we lovingly call him our tech troll but I've known him for 40 plus years when I talked about none of us saw a mysterious pack of wild

dogs that tore everything up Randy was I spent time out in the woods with Randy it's like growing up together so it's we have all these people in this network and Brent Thomas, Paranoa Portal, there's something about this group that we've all managed to get together

that's different because we don't all believe the same thing. We don't all think along the same lines. And we have different belief systems. One of our trackers, I call him Pops, we have that kind of relationship. He's out in the field with me almost every time I go. he has a different belief he has a completely different belief system and what these creatures are capable of that i do but it doesn't matter because if it doesn't have to get along we don't have to believe all the same things because if we're not open-minded enough to at least go what if i don't care what kind of what camp you're in if i'm not willing to do that we're going to be stuck in the same place where you have been for the last 50 years absolutely we've got to learn from each other we got to learn from each other we're going to work together no that that that's good stuff

man. And the cool thing on top of that is you're involved with a upcoming conference coming up later this year in 2025 where people, all you guys are, or I'd say a good number, you guys are going to be at that conference, right? Oh, we're all going to be there. Every one of us. Unless something happens, because life gets in the way. But we're planning on everybody being there. Yeah. And it's a huge deal to our first conference we've ever put on. I'm excited about it. We call it the Crossing Realms Conference. And it's September 19th and 20th and at the Eagleton Civic Center in Richmond, Missouri. And you can get your tickets on. Bigfoot Society will be right back after these messages.

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Investigator and the whole nine the honors, yeah. Professor Heather Mosier from Smalltown Monsters is going to be there. She's going to be speaking with Ron Murphy. So they're going to be speaking together by the Faye. We also have William Wonsford, which is famous for doing his work on with Boggy Creek Monster in the Salfour River Basin. It's great. Oh my gosh. He's such a sweet man.

We also have Lady Anne Celine, which is, she's an author and researcher. One about one that I'm really looking forward to, and I really shouldn't say this. I should think of big favorites. Dr. Dean Bircham, a la Dean to death. He's going to be talking about the UFO stuff. So we got Bigfoot.

We got UFOs. We got the Faye. And then we've got Greg Ogles. And he's filmmaker and researcher. He's doing along stuff. He's fixing to do a documentary out on. We're getting together and he's,

we're in the middle of a dog man investigation as we speak. Oh, wow. We made a couple of trips out there. Yeah. We made a couple of trips. out to this private land. It's 2,000 acres of private land gated nobody lives on. So, yeah, it's like a researcher screen.

But he's going to come down and we were supposed to be out there right now when we had all its weather come in. But he's going to come out and film the documentary out there. Frank Cameletta and Dan Klein, y'all are going to recognize those names from the haunted garage. They're showing up to speak and they're bringing a haunted car. How cool is that, right? Oh, man. A haunted car.

Yeah. Oh, man. So Brian Bowden's going to be there. Really? And yeah. I am so mad. I can't get to this conference now. He's from New York, right?

Yeah, I believe so. Dude. Miguel Ramirez from Sosquatch Theory. Yeah. He's going to speak. He's going to be out there. He's going to speak. Special guest, people are just going to be there.

Get this Ken Gerhardt. Dana Stricker, Brent Thomas, Ryan Edwards, Mike Famillion, Christopher Gerritano, Linda Eastburn, David Glidden, and Danielle Stedman from Dogman Diaries, which I shared my first experience with. We found, we got back until we lost touch for a lot of years. We got back in touch and she agreed to come as a special guest. And then, of course, it's hosted by the Highland Miss Fit Toys, which is myself, Brandy and Krista from Blonde's and Booz. You got Monica Rollins, our paranormal world. You got Paul from Paranormal Amongus, Daniel Diva with the Diva Dimitian, and also T-Time with Duchess Diva. She's an actual Duchess, by the way, it goes. I'll tell you something really cool about her.

Her great uncle was Vlad the Impaler. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. And some really cool stuff about Brandi and Christo where Blas and Blas and lose, they'll get a chance. Go check them out.

They've been paranormal investigators for years. They've been involved in private demonic cases. They've been in the whole nine yards. Brandy had her first Bigfoot siding with me in Brown Springs. Yeah, and they've done some awesome work out at LBL with Greg Ogles. And they just got some, and they're just a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the paranormal side of things. It's just, they are such a great, and I hate to say this, but it's true. They're such a great asset to have.

They're great tools at our tool belt with their knowledge and everything because I was doing a whole lot of things wrong when it came to the paranormal side. And they set me straight in line. Bigfoot Michigan Rob, Randy, Randy, or Tetrell, Donny Chill and Jason McLean. That's who's hosted. Our sponsors, two of our sponsors are Doug Hitchick. Really? Oh, wow. Yeah.

And also, Mary, Lynn Bass with Parra with the normal. And she's actually doing a separate gallery reading that weekend. Let me run down the activities of the weekend. It is a full weekend. Friday night is the

meet and greet. Okay. That is when you're going to get to sit down and eat with all these speakers and all these special guests while Miguel gets up there and speaks during dinner. Then after dinner,

Chris Garitano is going to show his new film. That's Friday night. Saturday is the conference. That's when all the speakers you're going to speak. After the conference, that's when we have the gallery reading. It's just in the vending area. Oh, and Saturday night, a ghost hunt at the Ray County Museum, which is right there on site. And all this benefits the Ray County Museum.

They're having a ghost hunt and what's really cool about this ghost hunt, Normally you go to a conference, you watch the speakers, you watch the speakers, you may get to eat with them. And that's pretty much it, right? No. All the special guests, all the speakers are going to be on the ghost hunt. Unfortunately, the ghost hunt is sold out, sold out. But the vendor area is going to be open to the public for free. All these special guests and all the speakers are going to be represented there.

They're all going to have tables set up. That's huge. So it's just going to be a huge weekend. If you don't have the money to pay for the tickets for the conference, just walking around the vending area is a chance. If you're trying to start out and meet people and hobnob and network, you couldn't ask for a better place. This is the who's who of the Bigfoot paranormal and UFO world all one spot.

I'm going to amp it up for a little bit. The good thing to know about this is it's right outside of Kansas City, So Midwesterners, like myself, if you can, it's, you know how easy it is to get to Kansas City or to fly into. It's not that far of a drive to where this place is outside of Kansas City. Also, people like Heather Mosier, they don't get out here in the Midwest, hardly ever. You definitely want to make sure that I'll have links in the show notes where you can pick up tickets and all that good stuff. But, man, this is, it's probably going to be one of the top conferences of 2025, I would say. Wow, thank you so much.

Thank you. It's a labor of love, that's for sure. Oh, I know these conferences, they take a lot of work, but it's definitely worth the connections, the people that are going to meet. Just like Sasquatch Summerfest out in Oak Ridge, this is going to be one of the same. The people that are going to meet is going to change a lot of stuff in the future. text. But what's the best way for people to reach out to you, like if they want to report something to you about Brown Springs or things like that? I want to make sure that we get that in there. My best way to get a hold of me is my email. But the channel does have a phone number,

and it's out there. Just go to the channel. It's listed in how to get a hold of us. But my email is paracrypted encounters at gmail.com. Perfect. So I did some wordplay there. I combined paranormal encrypted. I love it. Crazy stuff. Tex, thank you so much for coming on the show today.

I'm glad we were finally able to get it set up. But what a conversation about some wild stuff going on down there in Oklahoma slash Texas. But thank you so much for coming on the show today, Tex. Oh, it's been a pleasure. It honors all mine, brother. I appreciate it, man. I just want to take a few minutes to say thank you to you, Holman. for listening to the podcast.

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