BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast - 284: The “Miracle” Behind Becoming a Millionaire with Hal Elrod and David Osborn

Episode Date: June 21, 2018

Wealth is not an accident, it’s a choice. And on today’s powerful episode of The BiggerPockets Podcast, you’ll learn exactly how to make that choice each and every day. We’re excited to bring back two return guests, Hal Elrod and David Osborn, to talk about the choices that wealthy people make to ensure they stay focused on reaching their goals. You’ll hear about Hal’s recent battle with cancer and the mindset that allowed him to overcome the odds and live. You’ll discover how your diet can make you wealthy and how to command your day from the moment you wake—even if you aren’t a morning person. And you’ll discover the powerful concept of having an “air game” in addition to your “ground game”—and how understanding the distinction can make you wealthier than you have ever dreamed. Packed with wisdom, humor, and incredible insight, this show will leave you pumped up and ready to choose wealth. In This Episode We Cover: Hal’s cancer survival story and the Miracle Morning movie David’s latest updates What their miracle mornings look like How Miracle Morning for Millionaires came to be Overcoming the “but I’m not a morning person” objection How to own your agenda Choosing to be wealthy How to find the right group of people The thing that’s more effective than work ethic Tips on self leadership How to develop unwavering focus And SO much more! Links from the Show BiggerPockets Forums BiggerPockets Podcast 157: A Simple Morning Ritual to Help You Dominate Every Area of Your Life with Hal Elrod BiggerPockets Podcast 226: From “D-Student” to $400,000 in Annual Rental Property Cash Flow with David Osborn BiggerPockets Webinars Illuminate Film Festival Why I Don’t Want To Get Rich (And Why You Shouldn’t Either) (Article) GoBundance Books Mentioned in this Show The Miracle Morning by Hal Elrod Miracle Morning Millionaires by Hal Elrod, David Osborn & Honoree Corder Secrets of the Millionaire Mind by T. Harv Eker Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki Rich Dad’s CASHFLOW Quadrant by Robert T. Kiyosaki Wealth Can’t Wait by David Osborn Tweetable Topics: “It’s not about overthinking things. It’s about finding things that work and putting them into action quickly.” (Tweet This!) “There’s no way you win in life without having your agenda and being purposeful towards your agenda.” (Tweet This!) “The economic downturn was my lucky break.” (Tweet This!) “Work ethic is not enough.” (Tweet This!) Connect with Hal and David The Miracle Morning Website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Amazon gift card. That's bill.com slash bigger pockets. With that, it's time to introduce today's guests. So today we have on two amazing people. First of all, Hal Elrod, who was on episode number 157 of the Bigger Pockets podcast. That title was a life-changing morning ritual with Hal Elrod. And then David Osborne, where he talked about going from becoming a D-student to making $400,000 in annual rental property cash flow. David Osborne is one of the most successful real estate investors we've ever had in the show and one of the most successful people I know with real estate.

So you guys will love today's show. It's all about wealth. And, yeah. He was on episode 226 if you want to check that out. Awesome, awesome episode. Yeah, it was really, really good. So check those things out. Now, to read what we're kind of talking about today, I wanted to read you a section of their new book.

So they wrote a book together. It's awesome. But I want to read a little paragraph here because it kind of summarizes what today's show is a lot about. So here's the quote from the book. Imagine a day where you set the agenda. One were the things that matter to you are clear and the steps ahead are exciting. That's what the Miracle Morning offers you, not just the possibility of financial wealth, but also the abundance of peace and the sense of control over your life.

And so we're going to talk about that today, how a morning ritual can help you actually build wealth. And we're going to go through a ton of wealth building strategies, tips, tricks, things that mindset changes that you need to have if you want to build true wealth, whether it's through real estate or through anything, these things are going to come in handy. So with that, let's get to today's interview. All right, Hal and David, welcome back to the Bigger Pockets podcast. Good to have you guys here. Great to be here. Good to be back. But this time, all together, this is cool.

Yeah, it's like family reunion, so to speak. Yeah. All right. I guess, yeah, all three of us know each other from other places besides just this podcast, which is kind of cool. So it's fun to be able to bring us all kind of together. We're all go abundance guys. And yeah, in fact, I think actually the reason I'm friends with David is because Hal you introduced us back like three years ago, which is I don't know if you remember that. But yeah, you're the reason that David's here even. So thanks. That's awesome.

Yeah. You're welcome. All right. So I want to start this thing. Obviously, you guys are both on the show before and people should go back and listen to them. but why don't we just start with an update on and what's been going on in your guys' lives the last few years since you've been on the show. Hal, it's been, I think, two and a half, three years since you've been on.

And David, it's been a year. So maybe we'll start with Hal. What have you been up to? Yeah, I guess what stands out the most is I was fighting cancer for a lot of the last year or so. I was about a year and a half ago diagnosed with a really rare aggressive form of cancer. I went into the hospital and my lungs, kidneys and heart was failing. And I was given a 30% chance of living. This particular cancer is actually 20 to 30.

30% survival rate. And, you know, I'm a really healthy person. So it was very, very unexpected, really surprising. And I applied something that I call the miracle equation, which we could chat about, you know, at some point later if we have time. But the, yeah, I'm grateful to say that I defied the odd and I beat the cancer. And it's really a lifelong journey. A lot of people come, you know, I'm in what's called remission. And a lot of people come out of remission, right? So I'm really trying to make sure that my lifestyle stays in alignment with staying healthy for the rest of my life. And so, And then most recently, David and I just got back this last weekend from Sedona, Arizona, where the world premiere of the Miracle Morning movie took place. And I'm still like processing it.

I was late last night falling asleep going, I need to like stop and be present to how crazy this is that there's a movie, you know, about the Miracle Morning in my life. And, you know, and David was an executive producer on the film. And yeah, we just got to be the featured film at the Illuminate Film Festival and to a big, you know, packed house of 400 people, I think. And it was pretty wild. So yeah, so those are some things that are going on. And of course, this new book, Miracle Morning Millionaires, Dave and I just co-authored. This one just came out last month. So lots going on all at once.

That's awesome. Yeah, I was really jealous when I saw you guys. Like, there was a few people I know that were down there at the movie screen. And I was like, dang it, I want to be there. Anyway, all right. David, what have you been up to the last year? Yeah. Well, first off, that movie experience was incredible.

Like it was the marquee night, the grand stage and the broom was packed, standing ovation, brilliant movie, the Miracle Morning movie. the Miracle Morning movie and super fun to be a part of it and Hal's generous and giving me credit, but I'm his good friend and I'm always a stand for Hal to win at everything he does. And really, he and his team just put together what I think has got great legs in continuing the Miracle Morning miracle, which is really what it is. I have been a dad. So I've got my, I guess last time my kid was just born, now he's 18 months old. He's way different than my little girl. Like if you look away from him for a minute and he's holding a stick, he'll just hit you right in the head. He's so much more

aggressive. She was so sweet. And he hit me with a, I was saying goodbye to him to go to Sedona for the Miracle Morning and he had a golf ball in his hand. I looked over to my wife and he smacked me in the back of the head with the golf ball. Then I looked over at him and he's just smiling. I'm like, you are like a little guy. I could just destroy you right now, but I guess I won't. He's a real. So that's fun. And then I wrote this book with Hal, The Miracle Morning Millionaire, which has been a great project. I'm such a fan of the Miracle Morning community. And to do the one around wealth, which I think is my specialty is something that was a pleasure and a, a great gift. And then lastly, I created a private equity fund since we all spoke before. So I was,

I've been making money a lot with my money for many, many years. I've had investors co-invest with me. And I just finally decided to go big and create a private equity fund for single family rentals and single family flips. And we've raised close to $25 million so far on our way to hopefully $100 million. So it's a lot of fun. And I've got a great team assembled over there. And that's keeping me busy. And I gave them some money. So I'm counting on that fun doing really well. Al is an investor. That's all. I think you're going to be all right.

Guarantee of future return to tell, just so you know. All right. So tell me guys, you wrote this book, The Miracle Morning for Millionaires. How would each of you define the Miracle Morning in your own words? So Miracle Morning, to me, is it's a personal development ritual that is designed to help you become the person that you need to be to create everything that you want for your life. And that was the original quote that inspired,

The Miracle Morning when I first thought of this was from Jim Rohn. And Jim Rhone says your level of success will seldom exceed your level of personal development because success is something you attract by the person you become. And in that moment when I heard the quote, I had this huge like eye opening epiphany. And I went, wait a minute, I'm not dedicating time to my personal development every day, at least not at the level that I need to really become the person that I need to be that can attract or create or sustain the success that I want. And I really believe that is the disconnect for 90.

35% of our society is everybody wants on a scale of 1 to 10 level 10 success, but very few people are focusing every day on becoming a level 10 person, you know, physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, intellectually, and every way. And that's the only way that we achieve the success that we want, at least for the long term, is it's not about chasing that success, staying as you are. It's about becoming a better version of yourself every single day so that you become the person where the way you think, the way you live, the way you speak, the habits that you have. Like, You can't help but succeed, not because of what you're trying to do, but because of who you've become and what you do automatically as a result of that. And that's what the Murdo Morning is.

It's doing that every single day. I love that. So what you're saying is we have the power, we have the control to get what we want if we start by focusing on ourselves, not wishing the rest of the world would just give us what it is we want. Yeah, that's exactly it is. You know, I think people are, you know, right, I think who is it? Tony Robbins that said, you know, the definition of success or insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different result. And I think that's often it. We go through life. Like, when is it my turn?

When am I going to catch my lucky break? And you don't catch your lucky break. You create your lucky break. Right. And again, that really speaks to the essence of developing yourself into the type of person that can create the success that you want in your life. What's great about what Hal just said also is,

is, you know, first off, you could give credit for any great quote to Tony Robbins because he's probably said it at some point or other. So you can always use him. And then secondly, you know, the reason people like me resonate with the miracle morning so clearly and why I was excited to write the miracle morning millionaires is because, you know, we have figured out in life that it's not about overthinking things. It's about finding things that work and putting them into action quickly. And when I read the miracle morning book, even though I was already a multimillionaire and extremely successful in many areas, I was stunned by the simplicity of this new morning ritual I could add to my life that takes one hour, some of which I was already doing. I was always scribing in the morning and I was reading in the morning, but to have all six digestible, usable, and making it a ritual you do

every single morning with your first hour, it's just like an instant lightball, but don't have to think, I know it'll work the minute I read it. So once I got through Hal's first book, which was amazing and just so the wisdom, when you have a book that's so great with content, it's just so rare and such a pleasure because so many books are just full of the same old, same old. And The Miracle Morning was just like, yeah, this is all out there. But let me tell you. it together for you in a simple, graspable way. And so when Hal also said, hey, let's write, you know, the Miracle Morning Millionaires together, which I was very interested in too. I was like, just tweak this a tiny bit towards wealth. And that Savers program added into wealth, they just

go together like peanut butter and jelly. It's just a natural fit. And so I was excited to do the book with Hal. And I think we've created something pretty special in Miracle Morning Millionaires. Well, so Hal, how did you, why did you grab David to write it? I mean, I'm assuming you know lots of wealthy people. So why David? Yeah. And why did you write it? Like, why did you think it was important to write? Well, none as good looking as David. That if you're watching the video, you know that's obvious reason. But no, in all seriousness, so that, I mean, if you look behind me on the wall,

if you're watching the video, right, we've got roughly 10 books in the Miracle Morning series. We have Miracle Morning for entrepreneurs, for college students, for writers, for salespeople, for real estate agents, on and on and on. And so the series was born, you know, three or four years ago. And David and I've been friends for a couple years. And he would bring up in conversation all the time, we should do a Miracle Morning book together. And my thought was always, I love that, but I didn't know what it would be.

Because, you know, David is a real estate mogul. That's one area. And I thought, gosh, we already wrote the Miracle Morning for Real Estate agents. You would have been a great, you know, guy to do that one. But it just every time you would bring it up, I would kind of feel guilty like, yeah, but I don't know which one we would do. And so, you know, a year or so went by with us just kind of mentioning it, chatting about it, but nothing real concrete.

And ironically, the very first book that I had an idea for in the series, it was Miracle morning millionaires. And the tagline was my very first idea. It's what we ended up using as the subtitle, what the wealthy do before 8 a.m. that will make you rich. And the idea was, so just to be clear, this isn't the miracle morning for millionaires. This isn't like, okay, when I become a millionaire, then I read this book. This is miracle morning millionaires, what the wealthy do before 8 a.m. That will make you rich. So it's for people that want to become millionaires or want to become wealthy and studying what do wealthy people do for their morning rituals, right? So that's kind of the idea. And so it just one day, I was looking through my notes of different book title ideas I had.

And I saw Miracle Morning millionaires in my notes. And I went, wait a minute. I had forgotten about that. I hadn't even thought about it for years. And I got excited. I called David. I said, David, you've been one, write a Miracle Morning book. I have the book that you are the most qualified person that I know to write it.

And I want to say, the last thing I want to say on that is this is, you know, David is a multi, multimillionaire. So he's qualified in that regard. but I talk about in the book that my definition of wealth is really living in alignment with your values. To me, that's being wealthy, right? And if you value having financial freedom, right? Well, then being wealthy in terms of financially, that's living in alignment with that one value. But that's the thing is it's only one value. So when being wealthy is about living in alignment with your values, only one of those values has to do with money. The rest are around, you know, valuing family, valuing freedom, valuing health, valuing friendships, relationships.

And to me, David embodies that, you know, so to my definition of wealth, not just being about the dollars in your bank account or your net worth, being more of a holistic definition, that's where it was a beautiful synergy was to me, David, you know, he fit the standard definition of wealthy, but he fit my definition of wealthy, you know, as living in alignment with his values. Nobody does it better in my opinion. That's fantastic. I totally agree. Everything I know about David. I 100% agree with that. So, all right. So we're, we covered obviously the morning stuff, the rituals, all that a lot the last time we talked to you, Hal. But what don't we just run through a couple, a little bit about that before we move on to wealth? First of all, let's go through the objections people have. I don't like waking up early. I'm not a morning person. I've got kids. I can't get up before them, right? They need me the first thing in the morning. You know, I don't get enough sleep as it is. I got so much going on my life. I can't do it. All the excuses you've heard a hundred times, right?

What's your general response? And each of you, if you want to answer it or just how it's up to you? Yeah. So the general response is, well, the biggest objection is I'm not a morning person. And when I was writing the original Miracle Morning book, that was the voice in my head, which created a lot of kind of insecurity going, people have such a deeply rooted, limiting belief that says, I'm not a morning person. And I've never been a morning person.

And I've even tried before. And it didn't work for me, right? And so when I was writing the book, I go, how am I going to break through that? Like, who in the hell am I? How am I going to convince somebody to do this for more than a few days? You know what I mean? And so now, you know, fast forward five, six years later since the original book published, you know, we have around a half a million people that do this every day. And people post in the Miracle Morning community all the time. I'm on day 30. I'm on day 300. I'm on day 1,259. Right. I mean, it's insane. So the question or the objection of I'm not a morning person. Number one, I wasn't a morning person when I came up with a miracle morning,

but I had read enough articles on world renowned individuals in every field from world champion athletes to multi-millionaires to CEOs to world class entrepreneurs. And the one thing that they had in common more than any other was that they were early risers. They had a morning ritual that set the tone and the context for their day that allowed. them to grow every morning into a better version of themselves so they could give, you know, be better than they were yesterday each and every single day. And so that was my first aha, as I thought, the morning ritual isn't just like one thing that might help a little or it might not, you know, maybe I should try it. It was the linchpin to success because the only way to create a successful life is one day at a time. And the only way to create a successful day

is really to start with a successful morning and then you're off to the races. And the last thing I'll share on that is I was asked during an interview a couple years ago, what percentage of the Miracle Morning community, what percentage of them were not mourning people before? So this was a huge, you know, breakthrough for them to think, well, I've never been a morning person and now I am. And what percentage of them were already mourning people? So this was just doing something different in the morning instead of checking email. And I didn't know the answer to that question. So I surveyed our community, you know, hundreds of thousands of people. And I was really blown away.

72% of the miracle morning practitioners said they had never in their entire life been a morning person until they read the miracle morning and started practicing it. So that's what I would say is if you're not a morning person, join the club. If you think you can't be a morning person, you are wrong. And it's been proven now by hundreds of thousands of people. And then number, then the third thing is creating a morning ritual in the morning arguably will change your life more than. any other single change that you can make. The ripple effect of how you start your day and doing it in an often way, it changes everything for you.

And I'll let David take it from here. But there's one other thing I was going to say, I'll remember it while David's talking. David, what are you? There's no question being a guy that was a night owl. I started off as a night owl. I used to even have a whole philosophy around why I was a night owl because no one would bother me. I could work late at night.

I could get all kinds of work done. When the world was sleeping at midnight, I was able to get stuff done. And I lived on that philosophy well into my early career. And I really believed it. But what happened is I would start staying up to one or two or three. And then I'd find maybe I had an important appointment at seven o'clock or something in the morning. So I'd have to get up at six. I'd roll in.

I'd be tired. I'd screw up the appointment. I'd stumble on my words. I'd forget things. I got to where I'd say, okay, I've got an early appointment tomorrow. I'll go to bed early. And I couldn't fall asleep because I was so used to staying up to one or two in the morning. I was always wrecked for half the day.

And then everybody else is up. So by 9 or 10 or 11, my day was just blowing up anyway. There was nothing I could do. So if I'm getting up at 7.30 or 8 and then I've got an hour to eat breakfast and do my thing and then roll into my day when it's already starting to come at me, I never really got ahead of the day. I was always playing catch up. So even prior to the Miracle Morning, I had started shifting my schedule earlier and earlier.

And as I shifted my schedule earlier and earlier, I got more and more successful. And when you have kids, it takes it to an even further level, right? Right? Because you get up before your kids. You get that quiet time in the house where you get to sit there. And then what Hal added was the dimension of, okay, if you're going to get up earlier, which I was already devoted to that. I had made the transition from, yeah, that night owl stuff, it might be great in college when you don't really have that much to do other than what people tell you to do. But when you're in mastery and in control of your own life, that morning is how you set up the day. It's how you align your railroad tracks for massive success. And then Hal gave me the six things you should do every morning. I was like, wow. I'm doing a couple of these, but not all of them. This is exactly what I'm going to do every single morning. And it became like the aha moment of tying it all together for me. And I'm rarely out. I'm rarely up without a five in front of my digits in the morning.

I'm usually up sometime between 5 a.m. and maybe 605 at the latest. And I love it. And I get the visualization done in bed. I do the affirmations in bed often, the silence in bed. So I won't wait my wife up too much. And then I pop out, go do my reading and my scribing. And so how a title.

all that together. And I've gotten more and more successful as time has got on. And by the way, more and more success doesn't necessarily mean less. It actually means more and more activity and things going on in your life. So you have to really manage it all extremely well. And the savers just gives me that opportunity to get up in the morning and really just kind of like lock it in so that that day is going to be a successful day. And the days I do it are so much better than the days I don't. So yeah, for me, that's where the miracle morning was just like, yeah, there's not anything in here that in and of itself is like some magic recipe. But this behavior tied into what I was already a believer in is enough to absolutely change

your life. Yeah, I totally agree. I feel like, yeah, like you mentioned, both of you guys mentioned like this intentionality sort of, like you're not living reactively to whatever the day is going to throw at you. You're saying, hey, I'm going to define the day. And what I found is when I started doing the miracle morning, I mean, it totally changed my life as well. And I even got my sister now doing it.

Amber, shout out to you. She got five kids. I mean, all under the age of seven, like crazy life. Right. and she's waking up super early, get hitting the gym, doing the savers, everything. And she loves it. So like, you know, whatever people listen to this have an excuse, like I wasn't a morning person. My sister wasn't a morning person.

You do it anyways, right? So like, just having that intentionality. That got me excited about waking up. And if you have kids, yeah, you need it more. Yeah. Like when people go, I have kids, I go, no, I already have to, you know, no, no, no. Yeah, you need it more, right? You need to get your, you need to give to yourself first so that you can be the best mom or be the best dad that your children deserve.

You know, and it's hard to do that. when you're waking up when they're waking up, right? Or just minutes before. You haven't gotten a chance to meditate and calm yourself down and get centered and gain clarity. And you haven't got, you know, plan the day. And maybe like for me every morning, here's a little bonus tip. This year, going into this year, I have a rule that I'm not allowed to read a business book until I've read 10 pages of a parenting book every single day or a marriage book, right? One of those two. And that's been a game changer because I would gravitate toward business books always. And then I would almost never get to the marriage books.

They would just stack up on my shelf, right? And now every morning I'm reading that. So I'm learning, literally learning how to be a better dad, you know, and a better husband every single day before I even, before the kids wake up. And then when they wake up, I'm like, I can apply something I learned, you know, that morning. It's so effective that my wife and I are even in the process of buying a new house. And we bought it already.

We're remodeling it. We're like 100 yards from Hal and his wife because our kids get along. Our wives get along. But one of the conversations was, hey, where are we going to do? do our Miracle Morning. Like, and can we get some really cool meditation chairs that are like rounded so we can sit in the chair and meditate? Like, that is part of our conversation now because we know it ties us together in so many different

ways. And when you get into Miracle Morning millionaires, the one thing about the wealthy that is consistent across the board, every single wealthy person you'll ever meet is purposeful. They are purposeful towards the objectives and the goals they have in life. And that's what's cool about me saying that is all three of you were nodding like this at exactly the same time. Because you know what I know, which is that there's no way. you win in life without having your agenda and being purposeful towards that agenda because

there's way too much chaos and noise. And what the Miracle Morning does for you and specifically was it relates to wealth is you get to own your agenda. You get to take life and say, okay, this is how today is going to go. I'm going to be peaceful. I'm going to be loving. I'm going to be in my visualizations. I'm going to be in my positive mindset. I'm going to have a little personal journal about how the day is going to be great about gratitude. I'm going to read a positive book about relationship. Now I'm going to add that and then into business. And boom, you've like taken that one hour and you are now purposeful for your life. And when the first things come in, you're like, no, I'm ready for this. I've got my armor up. I've got my shields. I've got my purpose. And that's why

it works so well with wealth. The Miracle Morning does. Yeah. That's so good. And you know, I like that both you guys mentioned this idea of reading books, like relationship books, right? Because like as business people, we get so into like, I'm going to read business books all the time. Like when I was like, I had 100 real estate books, right? But like, if we really value other things in life, like our relationships, family, wife, young kids, why not learn that as well? So thank you for mentioning that. That's awesome. So now, David, you mentioned, yeah, you mentioned wealth, you know, they're intentional about it. They're choosing to be wealthy. And that's a big part of this book as well, which one thing I really, really liked that part of this book talking about how wealth

is a choice. Now, I read an article recently, I think it was on Forbes or Business Insider or something like that. And it said, it said, studies show wealth is from luck only. That's like, that was like the title of the article. And the whole thing was this. guy saying if you're rich, it's only because you're lucky. But you argue against that. You're saying in the book that you can choose to be wealthy. Can you talk about that? First off, a friend of mine sent me that article, a friend of mine who happens to work for the state and doesn't really want to be wealthy. A good friend, actually, very intelligent guy. And, you know, he said, what do you think about this article? And I know the question behind the question is, you're just a lucky SOB, right? It was an interesting

article. And I have an answer for him, but I'll go back to why it's a choice. Specifically, if you chose to be healthy. Let's say you were, you were out of shape and you said, I'm going to choose to be healthy. And in the book, we talk about this analogy of like, life is like a game show. And they say, okay, all you got to do to have a million dollars is choose which door to walk through. There's door number one and door number two. And by the way, the money's behind door number one. So choose door number one. And you're like, wait, wait, wait, this must be a trick. There's just no way it can be that simple. It can't be as simple as making a choice. But the reality is it is that simple. If you chose to be healthy and you said, I'm going to be healthy.

What would you do? You'd read a book on nutrition. And that book on nutrition would say, walk around the outside of the store. All of us know this and buy the healthy living foods and eat that. And so if you then made that choice, you would read that book. You'd have that information. You'd walk around the outside of the store and you'd eat more salads and more vegetables and you'd maybe do all these better choices for your life like the keto diet like my wife and I do right now. So that's as simple as it takes to be healthy. You'd exercise more. You'd stretch. You'd go to bed early. You'd get a good rest. You'd do your miracle morning in the morning. Well, it's the same thing, man. people just think it's like some lucky break. It's a choice. And if you choose to be wealthy, you will save some money. You will invest it. You will hold your investments responsible for a rate

of return. You will hang out with people that are wealthy. You'll learn the ABCs of what it takes to be a more valuable person so you make more money. You'll do all these things and that will lead to luck. And then you will get lucky and you will make money. So there's not a single extremely wealthy person I know that hasn't had a lucky break or two. But every single wealthy person I know put themselves in a position to get that lucky break. And I go back to my friend who sent me this article and I'm thinking, you know, at the bottom of the crash with this particular friend, I said, hey, I know a place where real estate is really cheap. I'm maxed out on my mortgages. If you fly out there and find a local bank because you can't do it from here,

it's a different state. So you have to fly out there. I'll put all the capital up, all the principal, and we'll split the profits on these homes and we'll buy 10 together in this area. And you know what? we got one because I muscled it forward and that's all we ever got. And there's not one friend. There's two friends that I offered that same deal to that I said, go out here to this market where you can buy home right now for $50,000 that will rent for $800 a month. Today, they're all worth 90. So you couldn't do it anymore. And, you know, neither of them did it. And I was busy. I had a lot going on. I was busy taking advantage of that downturn, which was my second lucky break in life to build assets and neither one of them took it. So that's an example in my mind of, yeah, if you were willing to

work hard and seize that opportunity, he too would have gotten lucky as all of us that bought real estate at the bottom did. But I think it's luck meeting preparation, opportunity meeting preparation equals luck. And you never get that luck unless you're prepared. Did you guys notice what David just said there? I thought it was fascinating. He said the economic downturn, which was my second lucky break, right? Like only like wealthy people think like that. Like the economic downturn. was my lucky break. I don't know. I just, I think that's a really powerful way of looking at it. Most people are like the economic downturn when life got horrible for everybody. You know, like, it's how you look at something. Yeah, you feel, you almost feel guilty saying that because

it was stressful for me too. I was scared like everyone else. There was blood in the streets, but I also took advantage of that downturn. It ended up becoming the second greatest wealth building opportunity for me in my life. And I still feel like I left a lot of chips on the table. I wish I had been more courageous and took advantage of more. But in spite of all that, I'm super grateful for how lucky I was that I was able to, I already had bought a lot of real estate. I had experience in that space. I had some wealthy friends, but not a lot. I had some capital that I'd saved up. So all of those things enabled me to take advantage of a mispriced asset, which suddenly it became clear to me that real estate was mispriced. Not in 08, not in 09, not even in 10,

but around 11, late 10, 2011. I was like, this isn't right. This is all too cheap. I need to buy as much of it as I can. And that's what I started doing. And if it ever happened a third time, now I've got a lot of friends that have a lot of money. I could really take advantage of another crash. But of course, I don't like the impact of the crash. I have a lot of things out there right now that would be hurt by a crash. So there's terror, but there's also opportunity in that bottom. And I think almost all the wealthy that I know that are in real estate that survived the crash made more money because of the crash than they did before. You know, you mentioned that when opportunity meets preparation, that's luck, right? And there was opportunity for everybody in 2010, 11, and 12,

but very few people were prepared. And that's why they feel like, well, I just wasn't lucky. I wasn't one of the lucky guys. Well, you just left out half of the equation. That's all that it was. Dave, you put yourself in a position

where you had managed your money well. You had saved it. So you're ready to act when that opportunity came. And I tell people all the time, we can't control when opportunity is going to show up. I have no control over when the market's going to go down or someone's going to bring me a deal. That just happens.

But I can control whether I'm prepared. And that's what we should be focusing on. These people who during 2003 through 2006 who are making the most money of their lives were saving it, they would have been prepared when that came too. And I just think that that's like a really good thing to point out. A lot of people get upset that other people got wealthy. But we don't get upset when we see somebody getting great shape. No one's begrudging someone saying, oh, look at that jerk with a six pack abs.

Who does he think he is? There's more to life than six pack abs, you know. Right. But when it comes to money, there's this stigma that goes along with you. Like, Dave, you said it's the exact same thing. Six pack abs don't buy happiness. Right? I don't want to get six-back abs because I don't want to be a jerk. I got six-pack abs. I just keep it hidden under a layer of fat.

So, and you know, Dave, you're right on. And so let me give an example of that in the Millionaire Morning Miracle, in the Miracle Morning Millions, we talk about the title. Yeah. Don't ask me about bigger pockets either. That's a whole other deutering of the title. Deeper pockets. So I just, I just pictured my own book title.

So you guys will know deeper pockets, right? There you go. That's what I did last time. I felt terrible. I was apologizing for half the podcast. But now I did my own title. I just miracle morning millionaires. We talk about choosing to be strategic. And David, one of the things that happened to me in the last town turn is I knew suddenly like around 11, I should buy everything. And I had some friends with some with some money with some of them, their money to make more money. So I used their money to make more money. And they invested with me. And I raised about a half a million bucks. And those guys made, you know,

42% annualized, 27% in nine months. And some of them rode along with me. And they were always in the 30s. We were just killing it. Right. But I didn't know. enough wealthy people because I could have honestly bought $200 million worth of assets in that downturn and turned it into $500 million. That's how mispriced real estate was. So being strategic, which we talk about in the book since then, I've upgraded my social circle. I still have my friends that have 100 or $200,000 to invest, but I have consciously built a circle now of people that are all in the $100, $200, $300 million. And I've done it strategically. It's just as easy to be what nice to wealthy people as is to be nice to middle class or upper middle class people. And they want to

the same things. They want community. They want friendship. They want kindness. They usually want people that give to their charities. So I've strategically given to a lot of charities that different people run that are wealthy. And now I have a group of friends that I hang out with once a month. They're all worth over a hundred million bucks. And we visit and learn together. But I can tell you what, if there's a downturn, I'd be going to those people and say, hey, don't give me a hundred grand. Give me $5 million. And I'll turn it into eight or nine for you. So that's part of being strategic. So yes, it was opportunity meeting preparation. And I'm getting prepared. right now, David, for the next opportunity by being kind to these high net worth people who

actually really like and building a circle. And that's part of my preparation, my being strategic for the next possibility. And like a jerk, you're giving money away to charities and being kind to people. I know. It's terrible. Stereotype. Yeah. One of the things, Dave, that you talk about, that brand and I, we talk about it ourselves. We both love it is your concept of an air game versus a ground game. I'm constantly taking that analogy and playing into my life. Can you share that with us as a way that people can get prepared for opportunity while still taking care of their, you know, daily responsibilities. Yeah, sure. The ground game is what you do naturally. If you're born and your dad's a dentist and you go through college and you go to dental school, you're probably a dentist.

That's all ground game. It comes from football. If you're the, if you're the guy running the ball, you're a football player, that's your ground game. But the guys doing the air game are the people designing the game plan for that football game. If you're a dentist, your whole life and you don't click into air game mode, air game is, is, okay, where am I? going. What am I doing with my life? What direction do I want to go? Am I taking the actions today that lead to great health, great wealth, great relationship? And that's why the miracle morning is such a natural, unbelievable tool that covers all the pieces of the air game. So the air game is really is you taking ownership of your life, going up to the 40,000 square foot level, being, looking down

on it and saying, is the path I'm on getting me to where I want to go? And if you ask that question, you'll get a yes or no. And if the answer is no and in what areas. And if the answer is like I'm working all the time so I'm not spending time with my kids, that would be an answer that might come back. Then you could use your air game to say, okay, I'm going to spend one day every week just with my kids. I'll choose Saturday, lock it in, drop it into your ground game, which is what you do every day naturally. And now all of a sudden you're leading your life instead of just being led by your life. That's so good. Yeah, I love that idea. And again, that's where the miracle morning I think comes in so handy is yeah, you're taking time out of your day to do that air game, to plan, to figure out

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leads to actions that you have to take towards your health. So that's why we say in the book, it's as simple as choosing door number one where the million dollars is and knowing that. Now then if you chose to be wealthy or chose to be healthy, one of the things you'd have to know is wealthy people are purposeful. Wealthy people have goals. Wealthy people are strategic. So, you know, everybody, I posted something recently and I saw somebody put, this guy's about hard work.

It said the work ethic you bring to anything is the work ethic you bring to everything. And some guy put in there, that's a slave mentality is what he put. And I thought it's very interesting. But the reality is work ethic is not enough. Ants work hard every single day and they're still ants. What is effective is choosing a path where you can strategically leverage yourself to greater and greater success. So if you're a bricklayer, God bless you for a great work ethic, you're not going to get financially free by being the best bricklayer of all time. You are contributing a great thing to society.

I honor the hardworking bricklayer. The way you would ask yourself, how could I get ahead wealthy? it might be okay, how could I build a house with my bricklaying skills and all my friends that happen to be contractors? How could I buy a piece of dirt, maybe even get asked the owner of my company, can I borrow some excess materials and build a house for almost nothing using all your connections, all your relationships and your skills and then have your first rental property or sell that asset to great cash? That's being strategic with your life. And then if you factor that into the miracle morning, what you would do in the morning is first off, you'd silence to send yourself, send to yourself,

and then you'd affirm. I am a bricklayter who also invests in property. I am a bricklayer who is going to own rental properties. You would visualize yourself owning that and completing that first house where you would have a tenant paying you monthly. You would then read a book on how to own your own real estate. And you would describe and write to yourself, okay, the action steps I have to take today, what are this, this and this towards being a landlord and a real estate owner. And so that's really where it all ties together is not.

it's not just about working hard. It's the choice must lead to the actions which will lead you to winning. And if you ask yourself after making the choice, okay, what do I do now? I've chosen to be wealthy with everything I know and all my relationships and all my skill sets, what are the next steps I should take to be wealthy? You'll get answers. And then you've just got to walk towards those answers. Yeah.

That's so cool. All right. So I want to, I mean, we can talk to stuff forever. Obviously, people should just go get the book. So, you know, I don't have to go through every point of the book because it's so good. Like, I'm not even kidding. It's so good. But there are a few things I do want to hit.

First of all, in the book, you talk about not so obvious millionaire principles. And I wanted to make sure we touch on these three things. First one was self-leadership. Second one was energy engineering. And third was unwavering focus. Can we spend a minute on each of those and explain what do you mean? Like, what is self-leadership? And then we'll move on to energy and focus.

Yeah. The idea of self-leadership is really, it starts with responsibility. And in 2008's a great example when the U.S. economy crashed, right? a lot of people maybe were like go of their jobs. Or for me, I had my own business. I was a coach and I lost over half of my coaching clients because their income was affected by the economic downturn. And so that trickled down to me.

It was like either they paid their rent or mortgage or they paid their coach. And of course, I said, hey, go pay your rent or a mortgage. I get it. And then I lost my house as a result of all that. But the point is self-leadership starts with responsibility. And I'm a big believer that to the degree that you accept responsibility for every aspect of your life determines the degree of power. that you maintain to change any area of your life.

And I'll give you an example. When I was 20 years old, I was, you know, we covered the story on the first interview I did with you guys. But I was hit head on by a drunk driver at 70 miles an hour. Another car hit me in the door at 70 miles an hour. I broke 11 bones.

My heart stopped beating for six minutes. I was in a coma for six days. Came into the coma was told I would never walk again. So again, I was 20 years old. And self-leadership was the mind, it began with the mindset of going, okay, I can't change what happened to me, but I am 100% responsible for how I interpret this,

the meaning that I give it and what actions I take moving forward. So I think the big problem, people go, well, wait a minute, I can't take responsibility for someone else. I can't take, you know, how could you take responsibility for a drunk driver? The drunk driver hit you. That wasn't your fault. And that's the big distinction is that responsibility is not the same as blame. Blame determines who's at fault, but responsibility determines who's committed to changing things, to creating the circumstances that they want. And so while I wasn't at fault for the accident, it wasn't the drunk driver's responsibility for me to be happy, for me to learn to walk again, for me to have any kind of quality of life. None of that was his responsibility. And so,

so that's where self-leadership begins. And I think with wealth and what David's talking about, where you make the choice, you choose door number one where the million is. And if you, you know, I think a lot of folks that myself included back when I was thinking about building wealth, it was like, well, but I don't know how. Well, like, I don't even know, you know, you know, I just have a job that pays me X dollars. And there's no way I'm going to get wealthy off this job, this J-O-B, if you will. And so I think one of the, you know, it starts with figuring out the what. So, so here's an example. If you're listening to this and you're like, all right, I'm at square one. I've got, you know, maybe I'm, you know, I'm 20 years old.

I'm a millennial. I've, you know, I don't, I've got a job, but I don't know, or I'm in college. I don't know how to become wealthy. I don't know how to do that. Well, then it starts out by the choice begins with I'm going to schedule time. Maybe it's one hour a day, five days a week. Maybe it's four hours on Saturday or it's the entire day on something, whatever. I'm going to schedule time to figure out the how, right? That's the starting place is figuring out the how. And so it's okay, I'm going to work one hour a day and I'm going to start reading, you know, I'm going to read Miracle Morning Millionaires. Then I'm going to read Secrets of the Millionaire Mind. Then I'm going to read rich dad, poor dad.

Then it right. And you can't help, but then learn and understand how to build wealth. Oh, you read books on building wealth and you understand how to build wealth. And then you can actually take the actions. So now you schedule that five hours a week that you're scheduling to learn how to become wealthy. Now only two hours of it's dedicated to learning because now you've learned. And the other three hours is dedicated to implementing the stuff that you've learned

over the previous weeks or months. And then you start to see results. Right. So that's self-leadership. David, you need out of that. Yeah, I just, you know, and people say, okay, so you've got to get all this lucky things to get wealthy. But really, if you, I go back to the first house I ever bought, I think I made $55,000. I was a realtor.

I had no money. I was showing property. I showed a lady a house. It was $77,000. Happened to be my sister. I said, hey, honey, are you going to buy this house? She said, no, I said, good. I am.

So I bought that first house. Now I'm making at that time, $50, $55,000. I don't have any money. I buy this house. I had enough for a down payment. And then I moved into the house. I was 29 years old or 28 years old. And then I rented out rooms to roommates, which is funny. I think it's a great strategy. In my case, my friends hardly ever paid me rent, but I still kind of got in some money and it offset some of the bills. And that house today, I still own it. It's worth $300,000. And I bought it in 97. So what is that, 20 odd years ago. So you don't have to be massively wealthy to start this

journey of wealth. Once you've read the books, cash flow quadrant, once you've read the book, like, wealth can't wait. And then you realize it's a good house. Hey, that's a good book. You can buy a house and then rent out to roommates. I mean, if you're a millennial, that's the perfect first step to do. And people say, well, you can't afford it in where I want to live anymore. Well, then drive an hour. Yep. You know, we're talking about the choice to be wealthy. I don't want to eat carrots and vegetables every day. I'd rather eat cheesecake and ice cream every day. But I've made a choice to be healthy. And guess what? When I eat healthy, I get healthy. And if you want to build wealth is the choice to be wealth and if you got to buy a little further out right now in

Austin, Texas, if you're willing to go 50 minutes out of town, you can buy a home for about $200,000, three bedroom, maybe four if you're lucky, you could rent two of those bedrooms out for probably $750 and your entire payment, you would be living for free and building equity on the backs of your lazier friends who are too lazy to go buy their own darn house. And if you don't think it can be as well, like you're building that knowledge experience. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's even the most important part is that by only thinking about it, you never get the experience. And if it's hard for you, we have a dreamer friend. And that dreamer friend is 27 years old and has like eight rental properties and makes $40,000 or $50,000 free and

clear after all expenses, never having had a proper work permit and everything else. So if you're thinking, oh, I couldn't do that. He must be lucky. He must be lucky. Yeah, he's so lucky that kid. Yeah, he's really lucky. He had the bicycle to work because he couldn't get a driver's license. That's how lucky he was. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to get, we're going to get on the show. Take responsibility. Take responsibility. That's the key. Yeah. Yeah. And then energy engineering is the idea that for you to be able to, you know, I'll give an example. Most people, I wish I had more motivation, right? And I really believe that it's energy that we want because if you have an abundance of physical, mental, and emotional energy, that is motivation, right? And so, you know, in the chapter, we basically

talk about that for you to be successful, you've got to engineer your life for optimum physical, mental, emotional, and even spiritual energy. And I'll give you a kind of the quick and dirty on this, if you will, is your diet. So I learned this years ago. The largest drain on our energy is what we eat. It's digesting food is what takes more energy than anything else. And if we go from meal to meal to meal and we're eating unhealthy food, processed food, heavy food, you know, bread, meat on and on, if you're eating poor food choices that aren't going to give you energy, they require more energy to digest than they give to your body, which is why you become in an energy deficit. That's why the five-hour energy commercial, right? It's like, you ever get tired at two o'clock

in the afternoon, right? Yeah, because you just had a chicken sandwich for lunch. You're digesting simple carbohydrates from the bread. You're digesting some hormone-infested chicken, most likely, right? Like, that's why you're tired, too. You don't need a five-hour energy. You need to eat a raw, vegan, or health, some form of health. You don't need to be extreme, but you need a healthy lunch, right? You need a lunch that doesn't have bread, doesn't have a lot of meat, and it's a small meal. That's why I think about Thanksgiving. What happens after Thanksgiving? Everybody finds a room at the house to take a nap in because you ate a lot of food.

Now you're digesting that food and you're exhausted, you're fatigued. So anyway, so to me the biggest tip on energy engineering is eating for energy where you place more value on the energetic consequences of the foods you eat than the value you place on the taste of the foods you eat. And it's not an either or. It's just that you go, okay, I'm going to learn. And by the way, go read a book on eating. Go Google Eating for Energy. You have a podcast on it. You can, I've done an episode on it.

There's books on it. But the idea is that you learn how to do that. And then you start engineering your life and it becomes easier and easier. And then you can go, okay, of all the types, now that I know what types of food give me energy, I'm going to actually play around and figure out what are the actual foods, the recipes, the salads, the dressings that are healthy and they give me energy that taste. that tastes good. So like I said, it's not either or it's not, oh, I have to give up good taste. No, it's you prioritize energy first and then you figure out what are the foods that fit the

criteria that are living plant-based foods that will give me an abundance of energy. And then how do I make them taste really, really good? And, you know, and then you get to the point where you don't even think about you, like, I couldn't go back to the way that I used to eat now. And if I, if I'm traveling and I have to eat unhealthy and I know it's going to drain my energy, like it pains me as I'm eating and I'm like, oh yeah, this is, I used to love this. It tastes amazing, but I know I'm going to pay for it in an hour and that's not worth it. So yeah, that's David Osborne. Yeah, I mean, I think the energy thing is everything. Well, the beautiful thing about the journey towards wealth is that it's a complete and total package. So in other words, as you get healthier

and you look after your body, you'll have more energy to make more money to make better decisions. It's all a package. And that's once people really get it, every one of them will want everything, because the journey to wealth, the journey to abundance, the journey to all of these things, it's self-reinforcing. You end up getting, I manage my energy so carefully and sleep is exactly right. But I also manage my friends, who I hang out with. Hal and I have become friends by choice because he and I have a lot of common interest. We're both ambitious.

We both care about our wives and our kids a lot. We have them in the same school. I move near them, not because that's exactly where I wanted to live, but because I understand it takes a village to raise a child, I think I can influence his children, Sophie, and howie as they grow, and I think he can influence my children as they grow. Hey, Sof, and I also, we have another good friend nearby. These are choices I'm making because energy is so important. And our kids being looked after and being comforted and being in the right environment

to grow personally is so important to me. But it all is a positive feedback loop. When my family's happy, I've got more productivity for work. When my energy and my body's right, I have more capacity for my family. And it all just ties together. And so that's what I love about the Miracle Morning and writing this book and just being on this journey of abundance. That's awesome. So on that note, one of the final chapters of the book is called The Miracle Equation. How can you tell us a little bit about that? Yeah, when I was 20 years old,

I was I sold Cutco Cutlery and I was one of the Cutco's top sales reps. And it was this particular sales contest called a push period where I wanted to break the all time company record. I was trying to do something that, you know, 50 year history of the company had never been done before. And we were normally doing these 14 day push. It's called a push period. It was 14 days. And our manager announces the day before we're starting. And I had like mentally like had to really ramp myself up. Like I can do this. I can I know it's never been done. I've never done it. But I know I can do it. And our manager says, by the way, you guys, this particular push period is not 14 days. It's only 10 days because we have the conference four days earlier. And I went, no, no, like you've got to be

kidding me. The thought of doing it in 14 days felt nearly impossible. And then to go to 10 was felt impossible. I reverse engineered it. I went, okay, if I'm going to, if I were to make this what felt like a miracle happen, and this was long before the miracle morning, but I go, I got to figure out what would it take? And I reverse engineered it. I came with two decisions. Number one, unwavering faith and number two, extraordinary effort. And I made the decision. In order for this to happen, I'm going to have a lot of self-doubt. I already do. So I'm going to have to maintain unwavering faith by repeating what I called the miracle mantra, which is I'm committed to selling blank or achieving blank no matter what there's no other option. And I just repeat that over and over and over and over again.

And when you do that, you literally are programming your subconscious to follow through with, I am committed to do blank no matter what there is no other option. So that was the unwavering faith piece. And then the extraordinary effort was simply that I was committed to do whatever it took, morning till night, to achieve the goal. And long story short, in miraculous fashion, on the last day, the last hour, I sold 20% of the entire two weeks. And it was a miracle. And then I thought it was just me. I thought, well, you know, I died in the car accident.

I was younger. Maybe I have like a special deal that God's hooking me up with or something. I don't know. So I thought, I'm going to teach it and see if it works. I started teaching it to my colleague after colleague after colleague after colleague and every single one of them by putting forth unwavering faith, which is counterintuitive. If you're not on track for a goal, the faith usually goes out the window. And then the effort follows right behind it because you think, why am I going to really try when I don't believe I can actually achieve this goal?

I'm so far off of this goal. And so unwavering faith and extraordinary effort, I taught it to all these colleagues of mine. And it worked one. And I can literally name the names. Jerry A's. I mean, on and on. Jerry, Robert, Taylor, they had the first ever. They hit the same milestone.

The record was like the four minute mile. After I broke it, they did it one after another, after another, after another, after another. I didn't teach him fancy sales strategies. I said if you want to join the top 1% of our society of the achievers in this world, that whether it's Michael Jordan, who when the game is on the line, he maintains unwavering faith that he can make the game winning shot, even if he missed the last six shots. Most people doubt themselves, not the champions.

And he puts forth extraordinary effort until the last possible second to win the game. And that's a very rare mindset and approach to life. And most recently, I applied it to the cancer journey and I really believe that's why I was able to defy the odds and given a 30% chance of living. I maintained unwavering faith. I had a mantra. I'm going to beat this cancer no matter what. There's no other option. And then I put forth extraordinary effort.

I did acupuncture. I did coffee inamas. I did, I mean, I did ozone sauna. I did the craziest diets. Like, I did whatever it took until the last moment. And, you know, miraculously the cancer was was beat. So that is the miracle equation. and I do believe it'll, if you can start practicing that and integrate it into your Miracle Morning,

have affirmations that remind you, I'm committed to achieve these results. I'll put forth the extraordinary effort, do whatever it takes and apply that to wealth. It'll transform your financial future. That's so cool. Well, said. Yeah. All right. Well, guys, this has been fantastic.

I know there's a thousand more things we can talk about, but I'm just going to encourage everyone. You need to get the book. It's fantastic. Like, I seriously, it's one of my favorite books I've read in a long, long time. Yeah. Miracle Morning millionaire. Millionaires, is that plural? Millionaires. Miracle Morning millionaires.

We want to make lots of millionaires. Yes. Where are you going to get it at? Amazon is the best place. Get the audio book, get the Kindle, get the paperback. All right. Good deal. Well, thank you guys so much.

This is my daughter, if you're watching the video. My future Miracle Morning Millionaire right there, Sophie. There you go. Hi, Sophie. All right. Thanks so much for having. Yeah, thank you so much. It's been a lot of fun.

We'll see you guys around. All righty. That was our interview with David and Hell. That was awesome. Just like I thought, I knew what would be, right? These guys are rock stars. And it was a lot of fun talking with them. That was a lot of wisdom packed very, very compoundly into one episode.

Yeah, there was a lot of stuff in there. And I had like a million notes, too, of things I wanted to cover. And we just did not get a chance to. I mean, things like, they're the thing called the woodpecker. Like, what is it called? The woodpecker principles. Yeah. Yeah.

Something like that. It's in the book. It's really good. The thing called the hedgehog concept, really, really good. How we talks about goal setting. They actually go in the book, they go through four, like a four-step process for setting goals. And the first one, again, we didn't get to talk about this, but I wanted to, but we just ran out of time. But he talks about setting goals or they talk about setting goals in a peak state.

That was like mind-blowing when I read that in the book. So make sure you guys just pick up a copy of the book. I think you'll love it. I just got mine over on Kindle. And I seriously took like a hundred notes, like on my ever note as I was going through it of things that I was like, oh, this is so good. And then also one last thing to point out to look for when you read in the book, look for the story that David Osborne tells in the book about the conversation he had with a billionaire when he had shingles. It's a really good story. And it's humorous, but it also demonstrates something really important about how you work your ground game. So I'm teasing the book a little bit there because I want you guys to go up and pick it up and pick it up.

It's really good. We don't get any benefit from doing it. It's not like an affiliate thing or anything. I just really like these guys. And I really like the book. So support them. Pick it up today. And jump into the show notes, of course, at the bottom of today's show and let us know if you liked it.

And with that, David, anything you want to add. I just want to say that if you guys don't know who these two are, how is World Rememort? for being someone who coaches people into success. I mean, one of the most famous people in the entire world when it comes to helping people achieve their goals. And David Osborne is probably the most successful investor that has ever been on this podcast and that I know. He's, he's one of my mentors. He's the person that got me into being a real estate agent. He's immensely successful. We don't have time to talk about all the stuff they do. But these are people who not only they're successful, but part of their life is teaching other people how to do the same thing.

They packed it all into a book and they packed it all into this podcast. I hope you guys really enjoyed that. If you want to know more, pick up the book, check out what's going on and then ask questions in the forums. That's another great way to get people involved and to keep the ball rolling after it's been started. There you go. Good deal. Good deal. All right, we're going to get out of here. Thank you guys for joining us today. Hope you enjoyed today's episode. If you did, share it over on your Facebook, your Instagram, your Snapchat, if you're nine. And that's all I got for you. So with that, let's get out of here. David, you want to take us out? This is David Green and Brandon Turner, signing off. No nickname. You didn't give me anything this show.

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