BILFPOD - Lily Lane on Fear, Confidence & Chasing Her Dream

Episode Date: October 23, 2025

🚨 New Episode Alert – BILFPod x @LilyLaneMusic 🚨 She sings heartbreak like an anthem and confidence like a love language. 🎤✨Lily Lane joins @maradorne for a raw and unapologetic conversation about music, reinvention, and the courage to chase what sets your soul on fire. From growing up shy to owning every stage she steps on, Lily opens up about finding her voice, breaking through fear, and turning passion into purpose. Her story is proof that confidence isn’t something you’re given—it’s something you build, one brave moment at a time. 💫 In this episode:• How Lily turned her passion into a full-time career • Finding confidence and power in vulnerability • The truth about independence, growth, and self-belief • Chasing purpose, not perfection ✨ This conversation is bold, inspiring, and deeply real—a reminder that your dreams aren’t too loud, and neither are you. 🎧 Catch the full episode streaming now on all platforms. Get Connected:Follow Lily Lane → @lilylaneFollow Mara Dorne → @maradorneFollow the Podcast → @bilfpod #BILFPod #BossIdLikeToFollow #Maradorne #LilyLane #SoulPop #Empowerment #UnfilteredSuccess #BILFCommunity #MusicJourney #ChasingDreams #CreativeJourney #StageLife #Confidence #PurposeDriven #MotivationDaily #FindYourWhy #IndependentArtist #WomenWithVision #InspirationDaily #PodcastDrop #RealTalkPodcast #MindsetMatters #GrowthMindset #HealingThroughArt #MusicIndustry #AuthenticityFirst #PodcastLife #FearlessFemales #DreamBig

You can do anything and the only thing stopping you is you stopping yourself. Every successful person I know heard no a million times and every unsuccessful person I know stopped. The industry didn't say you're never going to be successful and they kept trying. No, they just stopped because they didn't want to do it anymore or it wasn't fun for them anymore. The only thing stopping you from success is yourself and stopping. Welcome back to the Bilt Pod. We're authenticity trumps authority.

Now, today's guest defies all odds of, she's just bold. She's a little firecracker. I mean, without further ado, I am so excited because she walked in here with a fierce presence. Just amazing. Welcome to the Belfod, Miss Lily Lane. I love it. I love it. As soon as you walked in, you were like, boom, I love that.

I feel like we're already connected because your daughter's name is Lily. She is, that is. I know. She's so excited. So do you, like, say Lily Lane? like one name or is it like sometimes Lily technically and I just got married so technically my name's Lily Lane Halper and Hawking but I just wait what say that let me try to say that Lily Lane Halpert Hawking yeah it's like a tongue twister

Lily Lane hopper Hawking okay so that's my like legal name but um before I got married it was just like middle name Lily Lane and that's what like your mom when you were like in trouble would your mom be like Lily Lane come here no but my mom would call me Miss Lil when I was in trouble she'd say miss get in here Miss Lil. I know. I'll be like Missy. Yeah, Missy.

Oh, she'd do Missy too. Come in here, Missy. Yeah. We need to have a serious conversation. Yeah. That always got, that always got me like, oh, what did I do? You're like, oh, so you are like, you really are bold. I mean, you have been doing your music.

You've been on where have you been Netflix? You've been on, you've done stuff for HBO Max, Peacock, Bravo. I mean, it doesn't stop for you. And you're just a force to be reckoned with. So, like, where are you going now? Like, what direction are you going in right now? Well, right now. I have my project domesticated coming out.

So all the songs I've been releasing are this year on that EP. And I'm kind of right now just working on promoting it. I took a couple years where I wasn't touring. I wasn't doing a lot of shows. And I was focused on sync and making music for TV. And I don't know. I just really missed performing. I really, really missed it.

So I'm really excited that I'm doing a bunch of shows. I just did two shows. I have one this weekend in New York and one next weekend in L.A. And I'm just very excited to have this music be out there and be able to share with people. I love that. So I have to ask you, did you always know that you wanted to be like a performer? Or was there like a defining moment where you're like, this is what I was born to do? I think I always knew that I was a singer and that I was going to be singing and making music.

But when I was a kid, I didn't think that like real people got to do that for a, living. That's interesting. So like I went to a pretty traditional high school and then straight out of high school my parents were like you need to apply to college. We understand you want to move to New York and do music and modeling and all the stuff you've been doing but we want you to have an education. So I did like pretty traditional I did the pretty traditional path of like high school to college but. And you went here to NYU. Yeah, I went to NYU. I went to the Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music, which is like the most amazing program. My parents were like, you need to go to college. And I was like, if I'm going to college, I'm going to pop star college.

Right. Makes sense. Yeah. And it really was. It was so fun. And I ended up doing some touring while I was there, but I got credits for even when I was like touring with big time rush, I was getting like school credit for it because it was a music industry program. So it was. Yeah, it was really, it was really cool. So when was that like defining moment where you're like, all right, I'm, you know, I'm going to school. like this is what I want to do. This is like it for me. I think, I don't know, maybe my first big show. I've always been confident in my singing abilities and my songwriting abilities.

But when I was really young, I would sometimes get a little shy performing or I'd get nervous. So I wasn't sure if as an adult in front of like 10,000 people at Kiss concert or whatever, that I'd be able to do that. But I think the first big show I did that was like, over a couple thousand people. Maybe it was opening for Cody Simpson and Grace and Chance on tour. And when I did that, the first day going out, meeting the fans in line, doing the opening,

having everyone sing along by the end of it, I was like, yes, this is, I'm going to be doing this forever. Like, I will be chasing this feeling forever. So when you say you didn't think that real people could do that. Yeah. Like, what do you mean by that? Like, can you? I think I thought that if you went to like normal school,

in normal high school and you grew up in a family where the parents had like nine to five jobs. Like I didn't come from an industry family. And to me, growing up, it always looked like, oh, if you want to be in the industry, you have to start really young. You have to be a Disney star. You have to get in really early at like 12 or 8. I knew I was like, I'm the age of like Selena Gomez and Miley Cyrus and Demi Lovato. And they all had stories like they'd been doing it since Barney. Right.

And I felt like I didn't know how I would like break into that. I thought that was like a different kind of life path and that I didn't have any way to get there. But but I did. Yeah, you did. No, is your family musically inclined? Like do your, is this like a genetic thing that's passed down? Like if your mom's a singer, you're a singer. Neither of my parents make music.

No, neither of my parents make music. But my older brother is a musician. He's a DJ. is electronic music. And I do music. There's three of us. My oldest brother has like a traditional job and he's brilliant and he has a beautiful wife and kids.

And my parents are so proud of him. And then me and Tucker are, we just like went the opposite route. Not that we're not going to get married and have kids, but like we're, we're out there. You know, we're doing shows. We're going to fashion week. We're dressing up. We're being bold. were already big people.

I'm six feet tall. You're six feet? I'm six feet tall. Oh my God, that's really tall. It's so tall. Are your parents tall too? Yeah, my mom was six one, and I think my dad was six two, but they're older now. So you shrink at some point.

Yeah, it's not good for me. Yeah. Hate that. Not looking forward to that. I'm going to be like fragile rock one. We all are. We all are. It's crazy.

At least you have a head start, though. You're six one. I'm not like what are you, you're not going to be like 411. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Me, I'll be a fragel rock. you'll be like five feet something. That's true. Yeah, but still, that will be so, that will be so wild. So, okay, so your voice has been compared to Amy Whitehouse, who I absolutely, I love her.

I've watched her, I mean, I watched past tense her for many, many years. Her voice is powerful. I mean, she is a force. You know, I've seen her story. So when did you like kind of define what genre, or is there, or are you not defined? Are you still undefined? I would say I found my sound, but I wouldn't classify it as any genre. I would just like I wouldn't classify like pop as any genre. You know, pop is just popular. So depending on like what's on the radio, rap can be pop, rock can be pop, country can be pop. But I think I make soul pop music. So whether that's like a soulful ballad or a soulful upbeat dance song, there's going to be soul in it and there's going to be kind of like Motown lyricism. And like those kind of chord progressions, which I think is. maybe why anyone would compare me to Amy Winehouse, which is so nice because who, like, she's, she's the goat. But, yeah, it's a similar, that's kind of the music I fell in love with. I fell in love listening to Aretha Franklin and Motown Phil Spector's whole wall of sound. Like, I love,

I love the way that music sounds. And it's cool that everyone makes music on their computer now, and it's more accessible, but I really do miss the, like, big band, real instruments, like, going to a jazz bar and just I grew up on that music yeah Motown was like big yeah remember on like Sundays we would do the Sunday drive thing and my mom grew up in the like 60s 60s 60s so like they'd have this like oldy but goody station yeah and then you'd hear like all the motown and that was my favorite so good even to this day yeah me who doesn't like a good motown when you're like at a good party and all of a sudden they bust out like with like any kind of like the temptations any of that right so good yeah it's it's really timeless music it's like

Yeah, that's my goal. My goal is to make music that is timeless. And that wasn't always my goal. But when I went to college and then I left college to do some touring. And when I came back after, I kind of like stepped away from the teen pop Nickelodeon sound and kind of really dove into college and like the different kind of music that I could make. And I found this kind of sweet spot of. of soul-inspired pop music and I just love it. I have to hear it. Give me a little taste. Give us, you said you'd sing for us. Okay. I got to hear it. Okay.

Hmm. Anything you want. Okay. Should it, do you want something of me of mine? I think you should, yeah, why not? Anything you could do like a little medley, whatever you want. I will do my song domesticated, which is the title track off my EP, and I'll do a little bit of it.

Guess I lost that East Coast edge I was used to. I don't get messed up that dumb because I don't want to lose you. Is this growing up? Or am I just in love? I never thought I was one of those. Now I'm washing dishes and folding clothes.

Like suddenly I'm domesticated. Feeling good answering to baby. are ready to drive to Vegas, no reservations, it's contagious. That was amazing. Thank you. So I loved it. Listen, God did not bless me with a good voice, probably for a reason because I'd be so obnoxious with it, but your voice is beautiful.

Thank you. So domesticated, is that because you just got married? Yeah, definitely. And you're young. You're really young, huh? I'm not that young. I think I'm younger than my husband. My husband's 10 years older than me.

So I'm younger than my husband. but I've been in the industry long enough that I feel like very confident in what I make and what I'm doing. And as cliche as it is, music has always been like an outlet for me. It's like my version of my diary. It's like my therapy. It's how I express that. So my music has always kind of reflected what I'm going through. And I had a big fear about domestication and the idea of being domesticated.

like married but also being put in a cage. You know what I mean? They're connotations with domestication. And I was very terrified of them because my whole life, I've not been married. I've been alone and I've been like figuring out who I am. And it felt crazy that I just figured out who I am. And now I'm becoming part of something else. And I worried that I would lose myself.

I was like, what does domestication mean to me? And I had nothing to worry about. I love being married. Do you? I love it. I love it. But I was scared. I think that's normal.

I wasn't scared to marry him, but I was scared to, like, be an adult. And of course, I've been an adult for a long time. But I think when you're a Mrs. You fear that you're going to lose your identity. Yeah, or people won't see you as you anymore. Like, I wouldn't be Lily Lane. I get it. Mrs. whoever.

Yeah, but I'm, but he's so wonderful and he's very talented. And he does like a lot of amazing things. And I would be lucky to like just be his wife. but he really does like let me shine. Yeah. And I'm very appreciative. Yeah, my husband is the same thing. Like my husband's an introvert.

He's brilliant. Same thing. Like he is like the ultimate support. Like he's biggest cheerleader. Yeah. You know, kind of behind the scenes, letting me do my thing. And so I, this is my second husband. So I was always like my first, I was very young.

Second husband comes. I'm like, okay, I've established myself as Mara, you know, which was really scary for me to get married again. Then I'm like, well, I don't want. Like, I don't want to be defined by my husband, Seth. Yeah. Because I always wanted my own identity as well. So I get it. But being married, you know what?

Honestly, I feel like I'm more independent now more than ever because my husband is so supportive of everything that I do. He lets me stand alone, but he also stands beside me. Yeah. Never in front of me, though. Never. Next to. Yeah.

He always makes sure that you get to be seen too. Yeah. It's really wonderful. And I think a lot of the fear that people have about domestication or getting married or settling settling down is something that they have because they've never been in like the right relationship. I think the right I think the wrong relationship maybe would feel like being domesticated in a cage and settling down. But the right one I think I think I figured that out and I put that on this record. And I also put on this record the idea that in stories, they usually end with the wedding,

fairy tales. It usually just says, and then they like happily up. ever after. It's like what is that? What are they doing living? Yeah, what are they doing living happily ever after? Like, what does that entail? And that's kind of what I'm exploring on this album. And it turns out happily ever after, you can still be sad, you can still be mad, you can still have all of these emotions. You just like have someone to help you work through them and you don't sit in them as long. Yeah. And somebody to like really beat up, you know, when you're really, I just use my husband when I'm upset at. Firmly, I verbally, no, I don't. I don't. Okay. But you know, like upon you. Like they always say you like you're mean to the ones that you love the most. No,

but in a good way. Like anytime there's some, I don't ever have to watch my back. Yeah. You know, like I can let it just be me, my authentic self. I don't have to be anyone just Mara and he's going to love me no matter what type of thing. So I don't really verbally. I want to be clear. I don't verbally. Yeah. She was kidding. Maybe something. No, no. It depends on a day of the week. Okay. Yeah. It depends on day of the month. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Well said. So, okay. So you, I mean, I mean, you are young. and maintaining your own image, I'm sure, is kind of hard. Like, how do you do that with social media and the stigma of, like, how a woman should be or how a wife should be?

How are you able to, like, keep that completely separate or just define it for you? It's difficult. It's definitely changed as I've gotten older. When I was in my early 20s, I was a Willamina model. I was a curve model. So I was doing a lot. I love that. It was, it was wonderful.

Shout out Denise Bedou for letting me know that curve. modeling even existed. Shout out Ashley Graham for giving me my first job. I really, I had a different relationship to my body and my image because I was a model. People were hiring me and then kind of like putting whatever image they wanted on me. Yeah. So that was confusing for me. And, but it was also liberating. Like I would do an ad for underwear. I would do an ad and I would feel great about, like I would feel great about it. I didn't feel like I was in my like underpants in front of everyone embarrassed. Like it was great.

And I would I would post ads and I would be very proud of them. But now I only post music. I think I built up a following when I was younger doing music of mostly women. And then I started modeling and I started gaining more of a following of men. Right. And it's not that I didn't like that. I just know that those people were not there for my music. Yeah.

So when I finally was just. doing well enough in music that I got the opportunity to stop modeling and just focus on it, I made a concerted effort to only put music-related Lily Lane universe-related things on my social media because I didn't want people to, I'm very proud of the work I've done modeling, but I didn't want people to see me as a model. I wanted them to see me as a musician first. And I think that's been more successful. I think that's been like a successful in because now when people look me up, they know exactly what they're getting. Yeah.

And it's definitely harder. I definitely post less. Yeah. Because I always feel like it's probably something I need to work on. People always say just keep posting post more and more. But I'm posting less because everything's very curated. Like I want everything to be within this domesticated Lily Lane universe right now. So people understand where I'm at.

but also if they were a fan of me from my modeling I'm very grateful and I um I appreciate that but yeah where where I'm at as I've gotten older I've gotten less attached to the way not just the way I look but the way I'm perceived like I think I really used to like being a model and being perceived as like a cute girl and a model and now I kind of couldn't care less if people perceive me as attractive or not I just want them to know me to know me enough to give my music a chance. I think that is super authentic because my question was about authenticity and you completely answered it. It's about remaining authentic and you're so young. You know, I talk about this a lot. It took me a long time to really understand what

authenticity was. Like I spent a lot of years really just kind of pressed on what other people thought of me, how I looked. And I'm finally at this age, comfortable with who I am, first inside and then outside, you know, and I think they kind of go hand in hand. And I love what you're talking about, like authenticity and knowing your voice first before the way that you look. And for some people, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. People want to be known for the way they look. Then that's fine. Yeah, there's so many, there's so many beautiful women. And like I was just at, I was just at the Daily Front Row Fashion Awards and Iman got an award. And I've never seen a more beautiful woman in my life than Amman. Like, it was insane. And

she's done a lot of amazing charitable work too. But like, she is a beautiful woman. And she has done amazing work around being beautiful and showing what beauty is. And I love that, but it's, it's not my path. I've always known that music was my path. And as I've gotten older, I've gotten more serious about, I care less about just getting attention and more about getting attention for the specific thing that I am proud of. And everything else, it's kind of like nobody's business. Well said. Well, well, well, well, well said. That was her, like, I want my daughter to hear this. Because, you know, as a teenager, she struggles with it. You know, like what everybody wants her to look like

or what, like, social media is showing other than, you know, her realizing that there's a lot of filters out there. Yeah. But it's remaining true to who you are and being authentic to your authentic self more than anything else. I think that was well, well, well said. And you're so sure. Where does that come from?

Because you are out there in the public eyes. So where is that coming? Like, that's a, and you're so young to be so sure of yourself. And I love how you said, like, this is where I'm at now. You were a model. Yeah. That's where you are now. You're in the domesticated part of your life.

And that could change. Yeah. There's been many seasons in my life, many. Yeah. And the next EP, like, two EPs ago, my last, like, big project that I did was the Queen of Hearts EP. And that was in 2022 or 2023. I don't, I think, I don't know. But it was then, and it was a totally different energy.

It was about how I have. of that was fun. Check out that EP. If you're not in like a domesticated mood, if you're not in a relationship, if you're like very independent or you're like trying to find yourself or your tribe, the Queen of Hearts EP was great because it was so tonally opposite, but the soul is there and like the bops are there, you know? Maybe that's where all that authenticity comes from because of the soul, you know, like I feel

like the music. I love music. I really do. I love music so much in all different types of genres of it. But like when you're into it, like you can feel it in your soul. Oh, yeah. Maybe you're just like an old soul. I feel like, you know, like you have like not in a bad way.

No, I know, like your vibe is just like you're so confident, so sure of yourself. And that's so important because I meet so many young women that are just unsure. Yeah. They're just kind of going with the flow, kind of living up to these social media and social norms of what they think it is. It's hard. I feel for your daughter because I cannot imagine what it must be like to have been. in high school with all of this social media. Like I think maybe when I was in high school,

maybe there was definitely Facebook, but I don't know if there was even Instagram. And it wasn't, it was like. Not as bad as like now. Yeah. And the pictures on Facebook, people would upload like 100 pictures of one day. And it was like very casual and not like nobody.

Instagram is an amazing tool for businesses and brands. But it's also very. addictive and very like it gets into your head it does so same thing with snapchat because it goes away oh I don't even have Snapchat yeah I don't have it I just know for my 17 yeah that like the things that they deal with and they text be a Snapchat they don't even text right so you can't see it that's and they have the telegram thing this other that's insane it's crazy it's crazy but what it does is it heightens like what's not normal yeah so these girls are kind of put up against things

that are not normal or then your business goes viral. And then all of a sudden, they're dealing with issues that they should never, ever be exposed to at such a young age. And it's terrible, I really feel for anyone that's growing up right now. Yeah. Because it is a brutal society right now. So that's, you know, that's my little soapbox on that. But did you, I already know that you're standing up to say, so go.

Okay. Okay. All right. So we're going to do some fun segments right now that we're putting into this content. So let's see how it goes. Okay. All right. So it's time for Boston.

around quick fire in no filter okay all right so once one song of yours that deserved more love that deserve where have you been all my life why it's so good it's so good it's um it's so good it's i sing my ass off on that song and it is it is both it is the marriage of my old music and my new music it is both a dark pop pop and a lighter uh more corally ethel uplifting song. It rocks. Love it. Something you did that you'll never apologize for. Something I did that I'll never apologize for.

Like most things. Most things. Oh, being a plus size model. Being a bigger woman, being in a bigger body for a long time and loving myself and not losing weight because people wanted me to. I love that. Love it, love it, love it. Yes, yes, yes.

All right, Dream Collab. If you can pick anybody and anyone, who would it be? Yeah. Anybody. John Legend. Even Dead or Alive. Amy Winehouse, John Legend. There you go.

Love it. Perfect. Love it, love it, love it. All right, so there's always some controversy. So I have to ask you something controversial. You face judgment for your image, your art, even maybe some of your past choices. What's the real story behind the person people think?

they know. Like, is there anything that you would think that, you know, maybe something that's people look at you and they think they know, but they really don't know. Yeah. I think people think that I, I don't know, I'm very, I'm very silly and positive. I think a lot of my music is darker and I'm like a very big person and some of my outfit choices and stuff are very provocative but I am just like a sweet lovable stoner at the end of the day like that's the truth I love that I'm just sweet lovable yeah I just I like my dogs I'm I like attention when I'm on stage but I'm not I think people would be surprised how I don't need or desire attention when it doesn't have to do with my music true that's a I love it if tomorrow the headlines

twisted your words what's the one message you wish they actually print that you can do anything and the only thing stopping you is you stopping yourself every successful person i know heard no a million times and every unsuccessful person i know stopped the industry didn't say you're never going to be successful and they kept trying no they just stopped because they didn't want to do it anymore or it wasn't fun for them anymore the only thing stopping you from success is yourself and stopping i love that i mean i think I 100% agree with that because anything in life worth having you have to work hard for. There's going to be a million people that say no to you, but there will be one person that says yes.

It's a numbers game. Yeah. I agree. Love it. I like Nike's slogan the best too. Just do it. Just do it. It cares.

You have nothing to lose, right? Yeah, I agree. I love it. All right. So you dropped a master's class owning your story. Is that true? I don't know. Is that not true?

I have that in the thing. It's not true. Oh, okay. But it sounds great. All right. Never mind. I don't even know what that means, but I don't. But I'm, hold on.

I love it. That could just be me. Hold on. That could just be me. All right, all right. Hold on. I have, how much time are we working with right now? We're good on time?

Sorry. No worries, no worries. All right. Your new single, Reseparation is the first glimpse of your upcoming EP domesticated. What inspired this project? Happily ever after. After my wedding last year, I sat down to, a wedding is like a lot of work.

to plan it's a I had no idea how much but when I as soon as I was done with it it was like I had free time not free time but like I had time to refocus on music and it was like what what's next what's after happily ever after and it's like a lot of the same stuff as before just kind of with a buddy that's I mean that's yeah whatever that's a fair answer I love that and you've had millions of viewers on YouTube right millions so where like I would say where did it first start that you started to get that viewership? Was there like a song that came out? There was. Yeah, nothing but trouble. I had a song worth listening to. Yeah, I had a, that's probably like my biggest hit. It was on Pretty Little Liars a couple times and it was tied into like a big reveal on the

show. And that show at the time was like the biggest show on TV and it had such a intense fandom that they would listen to all the songs after and make edits with the songs of the kids. characters. And it was the first time, like, one of my songs had a life of its own away from me. And it was awesome. I really enjoyed being the soundtrack to TV shows and movies and ads, but also being the soundtrack to, like, people's lives. I love that. One was like, did you remember the first time, like, you heard yourself outside of, like, yourself, but like on something public? Yeah. Yeah. I think it was Kiss 108 FM in Boston. It was the radio station I grew up listening to and I performed at their kiss concert one year so they put me in the they put my

song in the rotation because I was performing at their event and it was it was it was so cool it was so you remember where you were what you were doing I was driving I was in the car and all of a sudden did you have any idea was yeah because I'd filmed like an interview with them or something I knew it was going to happen at some point and yeah I was in the passenger seat I don't think I even had my license at that point and yeah it was crazy and and I remember thinking gosh my talking voice sounds so weird. Yeah, when you hear yourself, yeah, I don't like to hear myself either. I don't know, but you sound good. I just sound like annoying as fuck. I'm like, that annoying voice has got to stop. I can only imagine how other people feel when I speak. I kind of feel the same way about my

talking voice. Like, I could listen to myself sing for a long time and like be good with it. I love singing and I'm very proud of my voice, but talking, listening to myself talk every time I'm asked to do a podcast. I'm like, are you sure? So now that you're. So now that you're married. I'm sure everybody wants to know this is like the mom and me. So are there children on the horizon or is that something more like backburning? Is it something that might be up there? Yeah. You know, I'm not, I'm not going to, uh, I know nothing, you know, with stuff like that. It's so funny. You grow up and people tell you how careful you have to be when having sex. You could have a baby. It's so scary. And then you get, you get married and people say to you, oh, it's so hard. You have to try really

hard. It's really difficult to have a baby. It's like, which is it? Did your mom scare you? I do it to my daughter. I'm like, if you get touched, you're going to get pregnant. Yeah. And you could die. Growing up, all the time. I'm like, you might. I'm like, if you have sex, you could die. I just want you to know that. I tell my son the same thing. Growing up, I thought people like sneezed and got pregnant. Like, the way people talked about it, it sounded like it was super easy. Because that's what happens. I just want you to know. That's what happens. That's what happens. Children, that's what happens. But for some reason, once you're married, uh, everyone keeps saying it's like very difficult. Yeah. So, you know, whatever it happens, whatever God's timing is, I'm good with it.

I love you. So you lived, I mean, you're just, you're like at the horizon, right? I don't, I feel like you're like climaxing. You're on the up, like you're on the up over there. You're getting up there. Thank you. And you're going to have so many different chapters in your life. Now, when people label you, you're really clear that you want to be known as an artist. Is there ever like any acting? I know you said you did some acting. When you were little, you're not an actress. but is that something that you would consider? I would consider it, but I'm so tall. I think most of the six foot tall roles for women are like the giant or like the Amazon.

And while I would do that, I like just don't see myself. It's going to be like a side thing for a friend or my husband's a director and he writes and directs and sometimes stars in TV shows and movies and stuff. And if he wrote a role for me or something, I would do it. but I don't think I would take time away from music to act because it's just like not something I'm passionate about. And I know so many amazing actors who deserve their shot. It's like I don't like what's what you know. So that's just like yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's your thing. Yeah. I love that. And you're super sure of it. Yeah. And I think like if my husband wrote me into something,

I would be doing it because it would be helping him like achieve his vision and his dreams. And I'd love to help other people achieve their vision and dreams. But my vision and dreams, It's really just music. I love that for you. Is there something like as you're getting involved in this heavily, is there something that you weren't prepared for it? Like something that you've been faced with that. You're like, oh, shit, I didn't know that this can happen, anything like that.

Honestly, I wasn't prepared for how late everything is. I thought at least when I was living in L.A., I started getting up early. And here in New York, it feels like all the events, all the shows, all the fashion shows or parties. that I've been asked to perform out and stuff. It's so late. It's like past my bedtime.

Yes, girl, they do. I know every time I go to a show, the performer comes on at midnight, 2 a.m. I'm tired by them. I don't know. And they'll say the show starts at 8 or the show. And it doesn't. I don't get it.

So can you tell us? What are they doing behind the stage? I want to know that. I couldn't tell you. Like, I have a show that starts at 7 this week. And I think there's an opener or there's someone going on before me. But I will be on and done. done before nine.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, but what is going on there that it takes just so long for like the main event or even just the event to start? Maybe it's, if it's a big tour, it's probably like set up like a Taylor Swift tour. There's so many like moving pieces for the stage and stuff. But if it's just like a, I don't know, I don't know, it's ridiculous. And some, you know, there's some like iconic divas that show up three hours late and they're like you're lucky to be in my presence like and some people I guess have earned that right

but I'm very much if you tell me to be there at that six I'm going to be there at 545 I feel like yeah especially people are paying yeah like see you and if it's like if it's a school or a work night like people have lies yeah so true yeah yeah we can't do it all right so I have another game for you already factor cap are you ready yep all right here we go now fame gives you freedom Fact or cap? No right or wrong. Fact. Fact, okay.

All right, Hollywood friendships are most likely fake. Cap. All right. Being sexy online hurts your credibility as an artist. Fact, but I wish it wasn't a fact. And sometimes it can help it. It definitely affects it, though, either way. I would say fat.

That's true. All right, that's true. I like that. That was perfect. That was great. Thank you. All right, we're going to flip this script real quick from art to entrepreneurship. Okay.

Okay. Because you are an entrepreneur, essentially. Yeah. You are your own boss. You kind of do your own thing. Yeah. I'm sure you have a manager. But yeah, yeah, for sure. You hire the people that are going to work with you. For sure.

Is that a trend? Because did you go to school? You didn't go to school for business, did you? The Clive Davis Institute of Recorded Music is a like dual music and business thing. So they taught us a lot about contracts. I love that. It was amazing. If you're interested in being in the music industry and I had to pay to go to school.

Like they didn't pay. I'm not plugged, but it's a wonderful place. It's worth it. It's really great. So now that you're in business, okay, you're like, you're adulting, you're in business. Has there ever been a business move that you were like, I don't know, I probably shouldn't have done that, something that you might have doubted or someone doubted. Yeah, I've said no to things before that I wished I hadn't.

And I've said yes to things where looking back, it was like, was that really worth it? But I think that's how you learn. I wouldn't have known that those things were a bad idea if I hadn't done them. Fair enough. Yeah. I love that. So, okay, also, because you know as business, image is, I mean, image is everything. But how are you able to still, and I know we talked about it, we touched on it.

You know, you want to be recognized as an artist, but you still have to have some kind of image, right? So how do you maintain, like, as a businesswoman, where's the balance? Or is there none? I don't know. I don't know. It's difficult. it's difficult to find. Like, for instance, if you're doing a magazine,

I'll give you this, like, you're doing a magazine cover, right? Yeah. And they want you to be like super sexy, maybe like, you know, something a little uncomfortable. Okay, I have, something like that. I have a very relevant anecdote. I just recently performed at a New York Fashion Week. I sang at a New York Fashion Week lingerie fashion show.

And it was amazing. But in the past, I've modeled lingerie. But I, and I think they probably assumed that I was comfortable just wearing laundry again. I was going to wear their stuff. But I ended up bringing like a see-through long-sleeved shirt and like I ended up putting more clothes on than obviously the models. And probably, I don't know, I think she wanted me to be comfortable so it was fine. But it's difficult. I, 10 years ago, I would have said, yeah, put me in the laundry. Like, I don't care. But it's not just me I'm thinking about now. It's also like my future children and my future children and my

my husband and you know when you apply to apartments they look at all that it's like you want to yeah yeah when i feel like some point you've got to put your foot down yeah and something like some things that were appropriate back then might not be appropriate like they are now you know i just i agree with you i think some things go 10 years ago versus like now you just got to be like no yeah like at fashion week i wore a garter and thigh highs on the outside of my dress so i could like show off the lingerie but i had a dress underneath it so I wasn't showing but it was still sexy and I think you can do that yeah I think you can be like feminine and sexy and still be fully clothed yeah I don't know that I would do no I would do that

I mean I have children yeah yeah exactly there is definitely there's definitely a place and time and I think there's an appropriate age and error for that whereas like you're right as you become more mature you can look sexy in so many different ways and it doesn't necessarily mean showing a lot of skin and you know what at one point I did show a lot of skin and like I hope all the 21 years year olds that are like dressing up in little lingerie for Halloween like I hope they're having the time of their lives live it up yeah but but yeah it's not at some at some point yeah live it up honey I'm just jealous yeah you know at some point so that leads me to another question young artists they're coming up there's going to be a ton and they're going to come up to you as a mentor and they're

going to say listen I mean I want to look a certain way they might be scared of being too much how would you like how would you mentor that person or what advice would you give to that young artist or just young I think a lot of, I think I was probably even told this, but like you don't listen to it. It's like be yourself and like all that stuff. Don't, don't listen to. If you have an artistic vision and you want to be seen as an artist, focus on that. But if you just want to be a star and make money and get attention and like there are people that will help you do that and that you can listen to and that know that stuff. But if you want to be an artist and you have like a singular vision.

And you know who you are and you know the kind of impact you want to have. Don't let anyone, don't let anyone take you away from that. I think that's well said. Very well set. I mean, you have so, I love listening to Utah. Your story is unbelievable. So last, okay, so now as we wrap up, tell me, last advice that you give somebody, anybody, piece of advice. Biggest piece of advice besides, like, to a young, just person in general.

So give a big piece of advice to somebody that might be starting out on their journey in the world. keep your support system very close to you and that doesn't necessarily mean they have to work with you like make sure that you have people that you trust that are looking out for you that have no monetary gain from you losing or succeeding do you know people that aren't making money off of you because if they are they have they're at least in some way considering that when they give you any advice you need people who have nothing to do with your business in your life, people that just want what's best for you and your well-being and keep them close to you. That's sound advice.

I love it. And that's a very hard lesson to learn. And you learned it so early on. I mean, you literally like such a voice or reason. You remind me of just talking to my daughter because I always call her the little voice of reason. And you are. I'm so excited that you are here today. If people want to find you, where would they find you?

Lily Lane, Instagram, Lily Lane, Spotify. Apple Music, Amazon music, wherever you listen to music, title, just Lily Lane, L-I-L-Y, L-A-N-E. And if you're not in a domesticated,

loved-up place in your life, I have been through lots of things and I have lots of music that can meet you where you're at if you don't want to meet me where I'm at. So just get into it. Wow, I love it. And anything big coming up for you

that you want to tell everybody about? Besides your seat, you're single dropping. Yeah, the domesticated, EP. The domesticated EP will probably be out around the time that this will be out too. So, all right. Well, there you have it. We just heard an incredible breakdown of Miss Lily Lane, how she's overcome so many different things, but remain true to herself. So I have a challenge for you. Get comfortable with being uncomfortable. This week, do something that you wouldn't ordinarily do,

whether it's pursuing that job that you kind of put on the back burner, maybe writing a book, writing a song, just something that would put you in that uncomfortable spot, but ultimately will give you a bigger dream and a bigger vision. So that's it for today, and thanks for coming on my show. Thank you for having me.