BILFPOD - Porscha: From Hollywood High to Tyler Perry’s ”Divorce Sisters”: Making Your Passion Your Paycheck

Episode Date: May 14, 2026

She's been acting since age 6, went to Hollywood High School's Performing Arts program alongside legends like Brandy and Lawrence Fishburne, and never had a nine-to-five a day in her life. In this episode of The Bilf Pod, we sit down with the incredibly talented Porscha Coleman — actress, singer, TV host, voiceover artist, and all-around powerhouse — to talk about what it really takes to make your passion your paycheck. Porscha opens up about landing her breakout roles, turning down agents who told her to "pick one" talent, and what it's like playing the wild and messy character Naomi on Tyler Perry's Divorce in Sisters — the #1 debut show on BET+, now streaming on Paramount+. She also gets real about navigating Hollywood's pressures as a woman, her health journey with fibroids, why she chose to freeze her eggs, the rise of women entrepreneurship, dealing with haters when your character is that good, and why authenticity will always be your biggest flex. This one is for every woman who has been told to stay in a box — and refused. 🎙️ Follow Porscha: @PorschaColeman on all platforms 📺 Watch Divorce Sisters on Paramount+ 👇 Like, subscribe, and drop a comment

Today's guest really is a jack of all traits and a master of many. Make your passion your paycheck because if you love what you do, it'll never burn you out. You'll never get tired. You'll still love what you're doing. It just may get tiring a little bit because you're like, oh, it's been a long day. But I'd rather be at a long day on set for 15 hours than clocking it at a nine to five that I hate because I just need a check. People gravitate to authenticity like you said. And they can smell it if you're fake.

If you don't know AI, if you don't know tech. We're going to get left behind. Welcome back to the BiltPod where authenticity trumps authority. Now, you know, just being a woman in general is not always that easy. We think as a society we have been very progressive, which we haven't. But today's guest really is a jack of all traits and a master of many. So I am so excited to have Ms. Portia Coleman. She is a singer, an actress, a TV host, does voiceovers.

I mean, I don't think there is anything this girl does not do. A breath of fresh air, a ball of energy. Welcome to the Bill 5, girl. Come on. Thank you. Did you like that? I gave you like a whole of it. That intro was like, I mean, I love it.

You gave me every title that I needed, that I wanted, and then I... You need all your accolades because you are such a, like, you're such a vibe. I love your energy. You come in, like you command you're this little thing, though. So like, Portia's tiny. She's probably, what do you, like 5-1, 5-2? Yes, I'm 5-2. Yeah, and I, me too, I'm 5-2.

What's nice shoe are you? I'm a 7-5. Oh my gosh, okay. Dang it, I can't take those shoes. But I love it. Like, and I come in all the time with the beach. big, you know, the big heels, just to like, and that's how you're so tiny. You come in with this big, big energy, huge energy. That's that Cancer Leo vibe. I'm like the fire and the water energy all

combined. I love it. I love it. So we have so much to talk about and cover. And I, and I love that. You just, you'll talk about anything. I love that. Anything. But let's dive in. So, okay, I know you were saying that you went to like the Hollywood acting school. Yes. I went to Hollywood high school. Oh, okay. So you're, so you're from L.A. Born and raised in L.A. I was born in in Sherman Oaks and I went to Hollywood High School performing arts. So Brandy went there, John Ritter, Carol Burnett, Lawrence Fishburn. It's an iconic school. So it was amazing always to be at a school where your friends are also entertainers. So you always feel like you are at home with your friends when it's like, oh, you're on a set. What are you doing today? Oh,

nothing much. I just went to this set and just was talking to this actor. It's like it's no big deal compared to a lot of times maybe being around friends where they think you're bragging about something. Like it's not like we're bragging. We just went to a great. great school. And even my junior high school was like that Milliken Middle School, which is now actually Louis Armstrong Junior High School. They renamed it. So we have so many entertainers that came from that school as well. Like Mikey Minden, my good friend, who's a dancer, choreographer for the pussycat dolls and Columbus Short, who is an actor, so many people. So I grew up around people that did what I did. So I know nothing else besides entertainment since I was a kid. So now you,

do you come from a family of like entertainers as well? On the music side, yes. So my mom and my aunts and and uncles were all in music. They traveled overseas. So I'm the first, like, one that was doing the acting side. My aunt and my uncle were doing it as well. So I was young and, you know, they were like, you should try to get into some acting classes. And my mom was like, all right, we'll give it a shot.

And I went and I auditioned and I did like a big red commercial. I remember like it was yesterday, big red commercial where I was like, you pop the big red and you taste the juice. Like it was just a whole commercial that I did in front of like all these agents. I could picture it. Like, I could totally see. It was so cute. I was seven. I was like six or seven.

I was six or seven. I did this big red commercial. And after like all the agents were like, we want to hire you. And we was like, you know what? This one guy really feels like he could give me a good start. So took me to coast to coast talent agency, which was the biggest kids agency at the time. And I booked like three commercials like out the gate. That is crazy. So you kind of always, this was always kind of like in your cards. It was. Like I'm so blessed to always say like I never have had a nine to five. I've always been singing, acting, dancing, hosting, anything in entertainment is what I embody. And I love. And I love. that because for me I feel like yes this was meant to be it's like I can't imagine doing anything else because it never feels like work and I always like to tell people make your passion your paycheck yeah because if you love what you do it'll never burn you out you'll never get tired you'll still love what you're doing it just may get tiring a little bit because you're like oh it's been a long day but I'd rather be at a long day on set for 15 hours than clocking it at a nine to five that I hate because I just need a check that is so that I agree I mean I were talking about it before like to be stagnant yeah it's always like we're like we're tired but

Then the minute I have nothing going on, I'm like, oh, I hate it. The antsiness comes down. Like, what am I doing next? What's going on here? It's worse. It is a lot. So you already, like, you're on your path and you've done a lot of different things. Right now, I know you're working with Tyler Perry.

So that, I mean, not to name drop, I mean, just saying, girl, just me. We got a job. I mean, just, you know, one of the biggest billionaire, writer, producer, directors in the game. Yes, we're on Paramount Plus. Divorce Sisters has been killing it last year when we debuted. We were the number one biggest show ever on Beat. Plus and now BET Plus is merged and now they're on Paramount. So everything on the Tyler Perry world is now on Paramount.

So divorce sisters is on Paramount. We are midway through our season and it is going amazing. So many people love the show. We have billboards everywhere. Like I was just at the Beverly Center. We have some down in Times Square. So it's exciting. It's a great time.

My character Naomi is a crazy mess, which I love to play. I love it. And your face just lights up as you're talking about it. So you can tell, like you genuinely just love what you do. I do. I think I love what I do, especially this character is because it's like it's like me, but it's not. So she's a divorcee. I've never been married,

not divorced. She has a adult son, about 20 years old. I don't have any children. She's an alcoholic. I've never drank alcohol. I don't even drink. I don't drink. She smoked cigarettes. I've never smoked. So she's like the rebel and like my alter ego of crazy

insanity. And it's really dope to play this character where it's kind of like a badass. I think so many characters you play on TV, you're like okay, the girl next door or the girlfriend. It's safe, but this character is anything but safe. I love that. You get to be like an alter ego over there. I love it.

It's so fun. It's so fun. We were talking prior about boxing yourself in. And I know that you are, you're a multi-talented actress, singer, dancer. I mean, was there ever a time where you felt? And I imagine, because I was saying this before, like that you had to figure out which direction we were going. You're going to be a dancer.

You're going to be a singer. I mean, how are you continuing just to be multifaceted? Yeah, you know, I used to hate that because I remember several agents that I had said, okay, you act, we know you sing, but you need to stop doing the singing thing. Well, we know you dance, and you need to stop doing the dance thing. You need to just pick one. And it was so funny because when I was 16, I booked a Disney show. It's like the Mickey Mouse Club.

If anybody knows, the Mickey Mouse Club was the biggest show. Yes, I know. Justin Timberlake, J.C. Chazze, Brittany Spears. Ryan Gosling, everybody came from this show. where you were singing, acting, and that was like a staple. Years later, they wanted to bring it back. So they had a nationwide search for kids,

and out of all the thousands of kids, it came down to 14, and I was one of the 14, where you had to sing, you had to act, you had to dance, and did you do sketch comedy? I booked that show. Right after, I remember being 17 years old and getting a good show that people love, it's called the Parkers, where Brandy and you have Monique,

and it was like a spinoff of the show Moesha. On the show, they literally were looking for singers, where the girl was supposed to come in the show, be in the singing group and be a singer, but obviously a good actress. I booked that show. Why? Because I could sing. Then I ended up getting years later Silicon Valley. They wanted a dancer. I booked it because I was a dancer and a singer.

There's so many jobs that I look back on now, and I'm like, I wouldn't have got those had I not been multifaceted or multi-talented. So all the agents that were saying, pick one, you can kiss my ass. I love that. No, because there's a lot of pressure. What are we talking about? I mean, even just, you know, now what I was telling you about the podcast, like, you know, you need a niche down. But then I'm like, well, that kind of boxes me in.

So I can only imagine for you that if you didn't kind of showcase everything that you did, you would have missed a lot of opportunities. To me, when I hear people say niche down or choose one, it's someone who's closed-minded who doesn't see the possibility of being more than just one thing. Especially now in today's time, let's be real. The way this economy is, the way business and life runs, do you really think that you can just pick one thing in life and be like, yep, this is going to be it for life and I'll be good? I don't think so.

Absolutely not. And it's a whole different time where, you know, we're still. seeing like our generations that are shifting. Like our parents or our parents prior, they had one job. They went there for 40, 50 years. They collected their pension and they just showed the rest of their life. That was their reality. That's not how it is now for someone as a millennial who was like, wait a minute, I can do

all these different things. I want to make money in these different things. I want to brand myself in these different things. And I want to take over on all these different things. Why do I got to pick something just because somebody doesn't get it? I agree. I agree with you. I think that in this society, this day and age, that you can be,

especially as a women. A million percent. Stop the victim blaming. I talked about yesterday. Stop the bullshit about I'm a woman. You can't. You absolutely can do whatever you want in this life and you can be multifaceted.

And you should have a few hustles going on because nothing in life is guaranteed. Nothing in life is guaranteed. Right now there's so many people that I know that are personally that are friends that had doctors that went to school and college and spent all this money who are unemployed. They don't have jobs.

They have no opportunities because they were boxed in in a certain way waiting for their niche and it's not happening. So now they're having a job. transition at 35 or 45 years old to do something else. If you're growing up in a certain way where you have these talents and you're really cultivating what they are, you're not going to get boxed in and have someone just say, this is what you have to do and just stick to it. To me, people telling you what to do is just bullshit. Sorry, excuse me, I think you can only determine

your destiny because you know what you want to do. Absolutely. And I had that happen so much where you felt even boxed in, even from family in a certain sense. You know, your family and people that know you, They know you how they met you. You're the little girl. You're their little best friend. But they don't necessarily see the vision that you see for yourself. So you can't let someone else determine what you are going to be. Because if Tyler let that happen, he would still be sleeping in his car and not being a billionaire

and producing all these shows and movies on Netflix and Amazon because someone said, don't do that. Just stick to the little plays. He didn't do that, which is why he's successful. So I've always surrounded myself with people who thought bigger and who have a vision. Because if you don't, they're going to keep you boxed in. Even your family. Yeah, I agree with you.

And you know, when you were talking about, like, the way that, you know, the way that I was brought up is that you go to school, you, you know, you go into corporate America. If you made six figures, a 401k plan, then you did really well for yourself. But that's not, I do have a master's degree, but I can tell you firsthand that I did absolutely nothing for it. And being an entrepreneur, I did nothing with it, zero. And being an entrepreneur, but, you know, talking about being locked and you are so dynamic. And, you know, let's talk about like the elephant in the room. being a black woman in in Hollywood. Yes.

I cannot imagine, first of all, as a woman, you know, that it was easy. Yeah, that's, I mean, now you've got to double women. Let's talk about it. You're a black woman in there. So do you feel like that ever kind of set you back? And even I don't, I feel like, even if it did, you probably are like, whatever, I don't give a fuck.

No, no, no. I mean, at one point, it absolutely did. I love to speak about this is because when you look at the shows that are out now, you have shows that are being led by black women. I love it. You know, if you think of Carrie Washington, when scandal was out, Viola Davis, how to get away with murder.

There were so many shows that were led by black women, but then it was still, let's say, a cast of white or other people that were there. But if you think back, 20 years ago, that was not happening. I mean, you had the Cosby's, you had family matters, you had certain shows, but they were on that network and that time slide.

Yeah, the same time on the same channel. Same channel. It was back to back and back, like 2-27. All the time. Yeah, I remember. I know, I was watching. All these different shows were like the black household and the black family.

had to sit down and watch these shows because they were going to come on one time and you got to make sure you watch it because you ain't going to get a whole network full of black shows. Then there was a time where a little network again, if you guys know TV, it was UPN and UPN came, that's where the

Parkers came from, that's where Moesha was on, Homeboys in Outer Space, one-on-one. There was one network dedicated just to black shows and black content. But even thinking back, there was only one black girl per show that could get hired. I remember going off for That So Raven and

Raven was not even the lead of the show at the time. It was supposed to be a white girl lead and somebody was supposed to be the best friend, which is the black girl. Raven came in, blew everybody away and they were like, no, we're going to make the show, that's a Raven, and we'll make somebody else the lead alongside of her, which meant no other black girls could be on the show. So it was just one. So every show, when I think back

about me, Kyla Pratt, Megan Good, Jennifer Freeman, so many of us that were starting, it was only one of us at a time. So it took longer to get your name out there. It took a while for you to get your opportunity, because they couldn't have you all together. Yeah.

Now, fast forward, looking at it, 20 years later, we're like, we're on shows where you're seeing five black women. Or you're seeing shows like Ugly Betty where you're looking at all Latino cast. You're seeing other shows fresh off the boat where you're seeing, you know, Pacific Asian Americans that are on shows. It's like, it's a different time now. So it's a blessing that we're here now because it wasn't like that before. Yeah.

So, yes, it was hard. But now you have shows with like, we need our black girl. We need our people of. color are Indian because why that's what America looks like. I mean, yeah. It's ridiculous to say it like. It's absolutely true. Like every time in and I am a white woman, but I do not look like a white woman.

No. I thought you were a beautiful Latina. It doesn't see. And I never, there was no shows that ever look like me. No. You know, growing up, you're like, you're so stereotypical. You get stereotypical. But yeah, I mean, there's, there has been, I would say, slow progression for women.

Yeah. You're slow. Ethnic women, we're moving. We're moving. go in one direction. But it's happening because I think they're realizing our power. If you look at the market right now, who spends billions on beauty? Women.

Women. Women. Say it. I just saw a whole thing on it, that women entrepreneurship is up. I think women, like 40% this year is women entrepreneurship. Absolutely. There's nothing in this planet that happens without women. We are the voices that speak up.

We are the people that support. We are going to concert. we're buying products, we are keeping these brands alive. So we are the spenders. So when you look at guys, it's like, so you guys are telling us what to do, but we're the ones that are actually keeping the economy going. We are the ones that spend all the money on the beauty products and hair.

Thank you. We will spend whatever money it takes to be young, high, and skinny. Period. It doesn't matter. It does not matter. Because we feel as women like that makes us feel beautiful. Yes. I don't care.

Guys, we love you, but we don't do it for you guys. We do it to make us feel better. It's 100%. If I know that I'm waking up and I'm going in the mirror and I'm like, okay, I like the way my body looks. So I'm looking the way, oh, I want to try this new hair look. If I want to try something makeup-wise, I'm doing it for me. Yeah.

If you guys like it, that is beautiful. But me, I want to do it for myself to make me feel a certain way. So I love that now women entrepreneurs are taking over, and we are leaders and thought-provokers in the best way. Because we are leading a revolution in a movement that is so important. Well, it's important, too. You know, I have an 18-year-old daughter. And for me, like, one of the biggest inspirations is her.

And I know that there's so many young women. out there that, you know, they're looking, look, social media is one thing, but they're also filtered, and that's not reality. So it is extra important for women like us to express the importance of entrepreneurship as well as, yeah, talk about it and being open. The one thing I wanted, we were talking a little bit about this and I was asking you if you had children, and I know that I interviewed somebody else, a singer that has been in the industry many, many years. And we talked about children and she brought up having children while she started her career. And it kind of frowned upon. It's hard. Yeah, it was hard. I think so many women, which I think now

we look back and we say thank you because I remember Kim Whitley is a talented actress, so successful, funny comedian. I remember seeing her like a year ago and she was like, you all cute, you look great. You know, I've been knowing you since you was a teenager. And she has known me since I was a teenager. My first acting coach was her roommate. So she always sees me and she's like, but what are we doing about this body and your fertility? Like, you're going to have kids? And I was like, well, eventually I want to. She said, don't let Hollywood would tell you not to do something. Because she said back then, we couldn't do that 25, 30 years ago.

It was frowned upon. We would get fired for it. She said, now do not not choose to be a mom if you really want to. Because this career will pass right by. And the hot show that you're on now will be nowhere to be found in 15, 20 years. But you won't have what you actually wanted, let's say, as a parent, if you want that. And she's right. Back then, girls would get fired.

You would get looked at or you're having a child goodbye. Now it's illegal. You can't fire a woman for choosing to say, I want to have a child. Now they have the health care served. They have everything that now supports women because why women get birth? We are the ones that create life. So you mean you're going to fire us or get rid of us for doing what you need to do to literally have humans created, to procreate. Wow.

So, yes, it's a beauty and a blessing now that's accepted. And I was talking to you earlier, like, I saved my eggs. I love that. I made it a point. And it was an interesting time because I have fibroids. didn't even know how bad they were and I would always have heavy cycles and I was like okay

it's just normal for me not realizing no my iron was low I was going through a lot of things but I was just fighting through it and I remember going to get an MRI and they're like yeah we see about eight and I'm like oh okay that's a number

okay I still waited a couple months because I didn't want to go through having this big incision and I'm like you want to cut me open and I'm like I'm in my prime no I don't want any of that I waited I waited and I went online and I found a doctor

who did laparoscopic myomectomies where they basically go through the belly button. Then I'm like, oh my God, this is innovative. At this point, a year already went by. I went back, they're like, you have 12 fibroids. I'm like, dang, they keep going. Oh, no. By the time I got to do my surgery, I remember being on the table, you know,

you get all woozy and you go to sleep. I wake up five hours, the surgery was. It wasn't supposed to be five. It was supposed to be two and a half. And the doctor told me I had 18 fibroids. Wow. 18. And I was mind blown.

I was like, 18 fibroids in my little bot. What are you talking about? Like, where? or how. And one was in the posterior where I guess it was like as big as like an orange, but it was like in my lower back. So you couldn't see it because he said if you would have been shaped differently and this fibroid would have been in your front, you would have had a bulging stomach. And I'm like 18 fibroids, who would have got? And I tried to save my eggs prior and they couldn't even get to all the eggs that I had because of the fibroids. So here I am now,

going back to do it again, knowing that I'm fibroid free. I'm healthy. I have no scarring. And I'm so grateful because of technology. Because years ago, I know people that had to get hysterectomies. Yes. Over a fibroid. Like one of my aunts had to get a hysterectomy because they said you have a fibroid problem. They took everything out and it started her early menopause, basically, which is... I know quite a few women that did that. And that's horrible to think that doctors would rather do that versus obviously taking the time to say, well, what are for fibroids? What's happening? Because again, women, we are the leaders and thought provokers, but we weren't always the ones that they chose to say, let's do more time and research on what women need to be supported. So again,

it's a great time to be alive and to know that in my prime of fertility, there are other ways to go about either having children or saving eggs. So when I want to do it, the eggs are there and then just got to find the right guy to fertilize. I mean, yeah, that's all you need, girl. That's what you need. And I can still go to the sperm bank or ask somebody to do it or. I have the option. I love that. You have lots of options now.

But it is, I mean, it is something that is important to talk about. And I can only imagine in Hollywood the pressure, though, because you have to look somewhere. You have to look this way. You have to fit a certain criteria. You know, you can't get pregnant if you're on this season or that season or whatever the case may be. It's tough. So it's a lot of pressure, I can only imagine. It's pressure because you don't want to like not lose a job because again, you can't lose a job, but then you think, how does that shift your role?

Do they got to write you out of a certain scene? Do they have to work around it, which they've done in so many different instances for so many women. But it's like, do you choose the time now or do you wait? And again, if you continue to wait, the window may be gone because we only got a certain amount of eggs and a certain amount of time. So that's why I think having the option to save them. is the best of both worlds to say when I'm ready to do it. When I know the timing is right to orchestrate in the show, then I can. Or, you know, let's say if there's a time off.

I mean, these shows tape so fast. Like, you guys don't know. Tadapes so quick. I'm sure. What is it? Like, you designate, like, a few weeks and that's it. I wish it was a few weeks. So how about this?

We have 16 episodes per season. Eight days? Eight days? Eight. So you're working. So your hours are insane. Hours are insane. But the blessing of it is that you knock it all out and then you're good.

Then done. Yeah. Then we have three weeks. one week is pre-production fittings wardrobe rehearsing doing all that second week you're shooting and by then we wrapped in the first season nine days he even cut it down to eight in this season eight days wow all right okay well that's good i mean you get it done imagine yeah whatever if i already did a season and it's eight days and i'm like gonna come back till next year that leaves nine months for a baby there you go and all the time window to get it done so it's just strategizing different things and seeing what you want but i'm just glad that you have actors that have been there done that that literally are telling me don't choose to not do it if that's what you want because you will look up and regret it later on thinking that your show is going to be here forever or that this moment's going to last. Everything is going to come and go but your babies are with you forever. This is true. Maybe this is a manifestation. I don't know. Maybe next time I see you. Yeah, who knows? You never ever know. And you have so many things

going on. So you're telling me that you have an EDM. Yes. Let's talk about that. I'm so excited. I have an EDM project that I'm doing right now, which to me I've always love EDM and dance music. and now I'm just like, this is it. I found a great producer. My writing team is amazing. And it's like this dance side is like the Porsche. Like I've always loved festivals. Like even in Vegas here,

EDC is big. Like I really do love how dance music makes you feel. I've done Afro beats, different stuff. But the dance music and the dance space is beautiful. And I'm even venturing into the DJ space. Okay. You know what I'm saying? It isn't like a girl DJ.

Come on. Everybody loves a girl DJ. Everybody does. It's so hot to me when a girl can put on the headphones. So sexy. Yes. And then just getting in there. Yes. I love it.

I look at Calvin Harris and like, Tiesto and all these like different people that are in the space where it's like people love them. I mean, Coachella just wrapped up. And when I'm sitting here watching Calvin Harris and everybody go and like I love how people react to the DJ. To me, as someone who doesn't drink, everything is about the DJ. It's all about the DJ. I don't care if you can. You're not drinking. Oh, and the music is awful.

Done. That's the quickest way to get me to go. I'm out. Yeah. I'm done. Me too. The first thing I do even when I go somewhere, I'm like, who's a DJ? If I know the DJ's good, I'm there.

If not, I'm like, I'll pass. Because being sober and having bad music and drunk people around you is like a horrible combination. The absolute worst combination. So you are doing all these things, right? And you also have a business that you run to. So like, how do you have, first of all of time in a day to do all this? And like, where are you getting all this energy?

You're a ball of energy. Thank you. You're walking in, you come in, you're like, all. Is this every day for you? It is. Like you're excited. You're just excited to be alive. I think it's a beautiful thing when you can, whether you're having a good day or a bad day,

I just operate in the space that it is. If you're having a bad day, you got to switch it. Switch your mindset because certain things are going to happen and you can't adjust quickly sometimes. And I think the quicker you can get out of that space, the better your life will be. Absolutely. You can't. There's not many things we can control.

We can control how you feel. I can control how I feel. I can't control what someone else around me is doing, but I can control the reaction to it. I can choose to disengage or I can choose to take it in and prioritize my piece with it all. So I really think that running your business is like you kind of have your control. So even when I'm like doing my work, it's like my business is hiring me. Porsche is not working. Let's talk about your business.

Of course. It's entertainment. So it's a booking business. So I have two, one in LA and then obviously one here in Vegas. And it's basically all things entertainment. So I can under my own business employee DJs, writers, artists, producers. So everything that I do under the Porsche helm, I'm hiring people. under my corporation.

Love it. So it's like if you're doing songs for me, good, Porsche Entertainment is employing you. Porsche, Inc. I got all of that. And it's like I'm even doing a lot of AI stuff in the space of technology. So even, you know, stock shares, business. Like, I'm a tech nerd.

That's the funny thing about it. It's like I'm so nerdy and techy. I love going to all the CESs just to watch where technology is headed. And it's like, that's what I want to be. If I can be rich and successful, I would love that. I'd be more rich and successful over famous.

famous just kind of comes to the territory, but I want to be stable, I want to be secure, and I want to know that I can wake up being happy to choose what I want to do. You know, because when you're still grinding, you have to still take everything and every job.

As an actor, you know, a lot of people have to settle for certain roles that they don't want to do because you're like, oh, the money's bad, you got to. Getting in a space where you don't have to do that and you could be selected where you put your energy in your time opens up businesses or AI, just things to be creative.

Like I have shops that I run online where I have clothing stores. people don't even know it's even me. I know it's so big right now. Like it's huge. If you don't know AI, if you don't know tech, you are going to. I said this yesterday, you will be left behind. You have to and you need to be multifaceted and be able to switch because technology is

evolving so quickly that yes, you're right. Being an actress is great. It's amazing. It's good. But how far, like how long, you know? Exactly. And then, you know, you really don't know where your next gig's coming from or whatever, but to be able to be multifaceted and have a tech company and have this and have that, have your

hustle going on. You really are unstoppable because if you're acting with God tomorrow, oh please. You can fall back on something else. And you can have that because that's the thing. You can't control acting. I can't control when the next season's coming. I can't control when the next job is going to get booked.

As an actor, you've got to wait to audition. That's all you can do. You wait to audition. You send a cell tape in if they hire you, you're hired. If not, what are you going to do? No, at least I know every day I get checks online for just being, Portia, I get paid when I'm posting. I get paid when I'm going lives.

All that's good. But if I can know that I'm getting paid because I'm running an online store with merchandise and clothing that has nothing to do with the Porsche brand. That is the beauty of being a businesswoman, an entrepreneur, like the Oprah's and let's say even Rihanna, like the biggest music artist you can imagine, but her biggest sell is her lingerie, her clothing, her makeup. That's a brand and that's beautiful that a woman can take her likeness and do something with it. And that same thing that what you're doing, it's like, you're multifaceted. You didn't just say, okay, I want to do one field here. I got my degree,

but look at the passion and how you manifest itself like this. because why this is another love and passion that can not only cut a check, but fulfill a desire that you have. If you didn't have a desire to do this, you wouldn't be doing it. Yeah, absolutely. I agree. Yeah, but you have the luxury to do it because you can afford to also do that based on your hard work already prior.

So it's a beautiful thing. Absolutely. Are there ever days where you're like, because I know for me, like, I'm pretty much like high energy all the time too. I walk in on the force, but there are definite days where I'm like, fuck, I do not want to do this. Do you ever have those days? The burnout.

It happens. It for sure happens. I think once you get done like doing shows like you do with Tyler, those, those weeks are like, you come down off such a hot. Your battery's drain. It's drain. You do long hours, but you do like one take. So you got to do imagine like 200 pages a day. Imagine taking a book and memorizing 200 pages and you are on a go like this, maybe with a 30 minute lunch break. No. It's a mental like, it's mentally challenging, but to me I like to be challenged. So if it's not a challenge to me, I get bored. Yeah, for sure. But it's a mental mind. It's a mental mind fuck.

So when all of a sudden you get done, you're like, I just want to sit and not move. And then after like two weeks, I'm like, so when are we coming back? What's next? What's next? And then I get antsy again because I like what I do. I love what I do.

So for me, it's always the next opportunity to shine because I feel like I'm prepared. So to me it's not hard work. If you're prepared and know your shit, it's really not hard when you walk in the door, knowing your job, knowing your role, knowing your lines. And anything in life is about preparation.

Absolutely, 100%. Everything is preparation. What about, so, you're in the public eye. People have a lot of opinions. I'm sure they say things. They don't really know you. Of course.

How do you channel that negative bullshit where people are painting a picture of someone you're probably not? Oh. See, I love that. I call those the haters. I love that. Hi, haters. We love that. You know you made it if you have a hater.

If you ain't got no haters, you ain't doing your job. You ain't doing your job. I think haters are beautiful because why? You must have something they like. That's so true. You must. See, I love it because I use that energy, that negative energy. you need to propel me forward.

You have to. I love it. It's beautiful to me. It's like, well, what are you saying that you don't like? I don't care if it's an outfit, if it's your hair, if it's your makeup, whatever the case it is.

If someone has a time to go online to concoct a paragraph or something about you. I'm like, it's so funny how bothered you are about me, but you took the time to actually celebrate me? Can you just scroll? I mean, you could scroll next. Why would you sit there?

Why would you spend the time? And even, like, would you ever go on someone's page and comment or give unsolicited advice? I've never. Never. I would never have. I never think in my mind I wake up I'm gonna go hate on somebody today

And I'm just gonna give them unsolicited advice Like who the fuck has time to sit there and come up with this bullshit losers and people who ain't making them money? That's exactly what it. People ain't got shit to do. Unsolicited advice. I hate those people.

They just fucking give you all kinds of shit you're like things. And then even as an actor they take these characters so true to life. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. This show has brought so much love and hate in the same time where there'll be people online who are like, I don't like her. I don't support her.

So wait, you don't like the character or you don't like her? She's just acting. They're like, if you dislike the character and now you hate her, she's doing a damn good job. So I love that. It's like you don't know me personally.

So that's the thing. I'm a tech nerd. I don't drink. I don't smoke. I love astrology. I love donating blood to children's hospital. I'm an animal lover. Like everything that people may not think

that I am is like what I am. So I don't care what your opinion is. You don't know me. Was it hard, though, at first, at first when the comments would come in. You know, it's so, well, here's the thing. But you grew up in this. Yeah, but I grew up pre-social media.

So being in like, I love it, being a millennial, we got the best of both worlds, the playing outside, no computers, no internet, to all of a sudden being in that six, seventh, eighth grade, where I'm like, oh, it's a big, bulky computer, what is this? And then you have to take computer class. Yeah, do you remember? Oh, my God.

Oh, my God. That Macintosh. That Macintosh was so bold. You had to press the button. What about the floppy disk, though? That fucking thing, you're like. That's the lobby. And then finally you went to a hard dis.

I were all in the computer. We went to the floppy disk. But then what about the AOL, the dialogue? Yeah. In those chats. The dialogue. Girl, my AOL chat room, I still have an AOL email address. Me too.

I still use it. I still use it. I love my AOL. I'm never letting go of AOL. I believe it is just a blessing because why we come from a time. AOL was so beautiful. It was a more innocent time. Remember when we be on.

aim and you hear the little like, I'll instant messenger, I live for the pop-up. Me and my friends talk about all the time. Oh my God. I felt the love. Literally this one guy that I used to like so much, that was our way of communicating, was on aim.

Every time I heard that I had a sound that I knew that was for him, I'd be like, that's him. Like, we come from a great time. We do. So we were socially aware. We had communication skills. Now it's like, kids are so awkward.

They are and they hide behind the screen. They hide behind the screen. So to me, when you get a comment from a hater, I'm like, who are they? Some little random, either kid or some weirdo guy who's like 70 behind a computer acting like he's somebody different. It's like, it's kind of creepy to know what kind of people might be behind there. So I don't really take it to heart because they don't know me personally.

I am more offended by someone who tells me something that I know. Because you know me as a person. Obviously, yes. And that hurts more. But a hater, I'd be like, if you know, I love going back in and trolling. Do you go back and comment back? Oh, sometimes. Oh, yeah.

depending on what it is. Because guess what? Give me the best one someone said to you and you gave back. You have to. Again, something about the show. I think the best people will come in and say something. Or on Instagram is a good one, right? Facebook is like, whatever.

They have forums, pages, all that. But when you go on Instagram, why is it always somebody that has a private page, four followers? I was just going to say no followers. No followers. And they follow 2,000 people, but they got four followers and they got a private page. And their little picture looks crazy.

So what I'll do is I'll screenshot the picture, enlarge it because you know on the camera you screenshot it, post it back on their page and be like, you're hating on me who? Unblock yourself and show your real face because if this is really you, you need to have a seat. Yeah, or stay with your chest. Like, say it with your chest. And then what

they do is they'll comment, but then they'll like try to block you from like posting a comment. I'm like, don't hide now. You got my attention. Let's talk. That's so funny. I don't care. Like, I can be petty like that too. It's just to me again. If you don't have haters, you ain't doing your job. Yeah, this is absolutely so true. Because they're never successful. Like you're never seeing somebody that's on your level, come to your comment box.

People don't do that. They don't do it. People that are winning, don't have time to sit there and give unsolicited comments or advice. To come and be like, I can't believe you doing this podcast. Why would you name it that? Oh, you ain't shit. Like, who is, like, what the fuck are you doing? Go get a job.

Get a job. Get a job. A 95 job. Because we're doing real jobs. We don't got to wake up to clock in. But you over here behind your desk at your job at me, have a seat. Girl. That's why I just say, have a seat.

I love it. Did you ever, was there ever a moment where you were like, I don't want to do this anymore? Ooh. You know what? I think the only time that really happened was during COVID. Because I can imagine. Everything shifted. Yeah.

Especially here. See, in Florida, we didn't think it was a real thing. Oh, yeah, y'all was out partying in Florida. See, I was in L.A. during COVID. And even L.A. We were shut down. I know. Here too in Vegas.

Every time I would go look at Florida, I was like, they live in their best life. Florida and Atlanta. Y'all was partying. We were spreading their own everywhere. Yeah, we were giving it to end. everybody it was not a real thing. Miami didn't care. And I was like, dang, like, L.A. was like, you had to be six feet.

We had to walk in. Here's the dumb shit. How do you walk in with a mask? But as soon as you sit down, you can take it off. You could take off the mask to eat. Listen, the COVID perspective is a whole other conversation. You think the plane, the mask on the plane, we're all breathing the same air. But when the food comes, take it off.

I'm like, you realize you're still sitting right here, right? This makes so much sense. All that propaganda is a whole other conversation for a different day. But that time, I think it was a little shift because it was a year and a half of like, it was a long time. Nothing. So you're like, if everything is shut down, what do I do outside of entertainment? Because I was early in doing business stuff.

AI was happening, but not as big, maybe five years ago. So it was like, well, what next? And when they start saying, we got to do self-tapes, which means put yourself on camera and send it to us, I'm like, so I've got to change my whole place up to record myself to send to you to hope that you watch it and like it. Oh, wow. Yeah. It was that bad.

happened. Oh yeah, because even now, we don't really go in rooms. Like, I booked Tyler show off of a self-tape. I sent in a role for a self-tape. I got the call back two days later, and I was in person with him after. But everything now is putting yourself on camera to where cast directors are sitting and just watching your tapes. Wow. So how do you not get burned out when you're not walking in a room anymore to be like, hi, I'm Portia, here's my scene, take a listen to what I have to do. You're not doing that anymore. Yeah. So you do get a little like, tired of self-tapping, wondering, do they like you? What do they think of your tape? Did they see it.

Like, you don't get the feedback you used to get when you walk in the room and they're like, hey, I like you, can you try this? Can you try that? It's like now it's just send it in and we'll see if we hear from you. So yeah, from 2020, 2020, 2021, it was a little burnout. But I think the whole world felt like that, but I can only imagine in your industry, like what it really was like.

But y'all was partying and it had a mimosis. Y'all was good. We were. We were living our best life. That wasn't a real thing. It wasn't a thing. But technically now, is it a thing? No, it's not a real thing.

Thank you. It was right all long. That's why I never got the COVID test or the shot. I wouldn't do it. No, I'm lying. I got one. You did? I got one.

I'll tell you why. Why? Because I was going on a cruise and they made it. But then I realized that you can like sketch the whole thing. So the second one I just wrote it in. Listen. Sorry. But it was not a real thing.

I knew I was saying right here on record, that was a mess. And it was a lie. It was not a real thing. I'm sorry. And here's the crazy part. And I'll say this on record. I fell out with family over that. I know.

Me too. My family, I remember my mom not wanting to see me. I'm like, I'm your daughter. She didn't want to see me. And then my uncle told her she was playing Russian roulette by coming to see me and the kids. Who sounds that? Tell me why my own brother said, you're trying to kill our mom. You're trying to kill our mother by not getting your shots.

I was like, first of all, I'm not asking my mom to come to my house. She's just five minutes away, so she just comes in and announce. But outside of that, why are you telling me what to do? You live in a whole other state. I'm not in your house. You don't pay my rent. I can choose to do what I want to do with my body. It's the unsolicited.

And I'm unsolicited because it's your family, right? And I will tell you even on record. I remember in 2021 later having to go do a movie and it was in Hawaii. And there was girls on set. They took the shot. Their periods skipped. Two girls had miscarriages. A lot of them were having fertility issues.

And I was like, that's not coincidental. And I just, I always stuck to my guns. I've never been one to be like, oh, let me go get flu shots. Let me go get all these shots. I don't do all of it either. I don't get sick. I take my natural herbs. I don't do it.

And even when that came up, I was like, so you're just going to pop up something and say, we've got to get shots just to do something right now. I'm going to take my time. If I decide to, I'll do it myself. I never did it. And I'm so glad that I didn't

because too many athletes are passing from myocarditis and heart inflammation. And even people now are saying that they regret taking all the shots. Yeah. And I do not. Thank God. So like I said, to the family, again,

they know who they are. It was kind of like this thing where you're going to hurt us and you. Okay, cool. I don't got to be around you. No problem. And here we are going right into restaurants. COVID where?

Yeah. It's not, it wasn't a real thing. Like, you hyped it up just to get the money out of people because here's the thing. And this one comes down to business. Would you do something for free? Knowing that you can't sue later on is something bad happens? Would I do it for free? Because that's what happens.

When you go to get a shot, you have to sign a way for saying, this is free, this is elective. You walked in to do this. And there's nothing. You can't sue us. You can't come back and say anything after or something happened. No, I wouldn't do it. You wouldn't even go into a business deal like that. No.

No. But people were doing it left and right. You did it, and then now there's repercussions, but there's nothing you could do about it, even just in business. You don't do something that you can't have some sort of recourse after to go back and get it. Something bad happened. Yeah, that's why I, well, I said to one. And then I was like, well, I only did it for the cruise, the cruise line.

The cruise lines was going everywhere, and they made you do it. But I just never felt like someone making you do something, even certain jobs. I know a lot of friends that were actors as well. Like they got fired over not getting the shot. But here we are now. it's not mandatory, so they're trying to go back and sue for certain things saying, but dang, did I really have to do it? Businesses made you do it, but I feel like they were also involved in the propaganda

of what was going to be honest. So I'm happy I did not, and I, and I'm grateful that I didn't because now, look it, it's not a big, nothing. It's not a real thing. It's not a thing. So I know Florida wasn't tripping on it because y'all was outside. You're outside. Y'all was outside. And I remember even my brother said this, what are you going to do? And they come door to door and force you like with a gun to go get a shot I was like, this is not happening. That's not happening,

but keep watching CNN believing that. Never. So I have a question you brought, like you were talking about actresses. Growing up as a child

actor or actress singer, you hear like a lot of these stories coming out right now. Terrible. So I'm going there. Yes.

I'm glad it. What is your perception on that? Were you ever, I don't want to make you like put yourself out, but were you ever faced with anything

that was like inappropriate or, you know, indecent, because now all of these, it's all over Netflix, all these shows like from Disney too. The guy from, oh my God, what's his name? Nickelodeon and the guy, Dan.

Yes, he was on that show. What was it? All that. No, there was another. He was behind, all that. All that, but he started on, oh my God. It was Nickelodeon, though. I think he started with,

he was doing that show with like all the high school kids. It wasn't high school musical. No, I know what you're talking about, but he started, yeah, his name was Dan, and he started where he was getting a lot of these people and actors on the shows and some of them fell victim to that. I never did. And I'll be like so transparent and so honest. It's like that is a time where I was involved in. I remember auditioning for all that. I was like 10 and they wanted like 12 years old or 13. So I remember I was

a little young at the time for the show. And there was a lot going on. I'll just say it. Like I said and I in a lot of ways I always think, let's say my mom in an instance, because I never felt victim to staying out late at the parties. I'd always come. But my parents. I'd always come. But I'm I was like, I was going to say your parents. I mean, that's what I, this might sound terrible, but where were the parents? Exactly. I think a lot of times, even when you hear the stuff that Dan did, parents kind of drop the kids off. Parents kind of, I'm not dropping my kid off.

I'm not dropping my kid off nowhere. I don't even let my kids sleep out. No. And I think, and I agree to that too. Especially if there's like a dad there's like a creepy uncle around. I agree to that too. I think that's fair. And even as a woman the discernment in a certain way, not saying that, you know, I had to say,

we love men, but certain men are creepy. Yeah, they are creepy. They're weird. And you never know what can happen. And I feel like that is one thing that my mom, I never did. I slept at my aunt in my uncles house. My cousins were there. And it was like one place. That was it.

My kids don't sleep out. We never did sleepovers. I just wasn't allowed to do that. So I didn't think anything was weird about it until I started seeing stuff later on where I'm like, dang, that was happening to certain people. Your parent was controlling the situation. So she was controlling that narrative. And in a way, I'm grateful for that.

And I saw, I be at the parties. And, you know, the kids would be drinking. I could name several Disney stories that were there and they were 13, 14 years old getting drunk, getting plastered, taking stuff. I saw all of that. I was just never the type of person who was like, oh, I want to do it.

I've never had that person out. If I see you walking off a bridge, have a good time. That's not me. I'm not a follower like that. But I witnessed a lot of things. But the molestation or any sort of touching. I never saw that. And when I saw this come out,

I felt so bad for certain people that I know that were dealing with a lot, that were drinking too early, that were having sex early. Like, I remember going to a couple parties and I'm like, where's so-and-so? And they're like, oh, I think she's in the room having sex.

And I'm like, I was a girl, I was such a late bloomer. I was a virgin until I was like 25. Good for you. I was just say that. I was very late to a lot just because I was just never that type of personality,

but I saw so much. And I was just like, why are kids doing something like this? Why do they have to feel like they have to feel validated by doing certain things just because certain friends do it? And hearing later that what Dan was doing to get in and to be liked by certain kids is sad. It's very sad.

And it's sad because it could have changed a lot of trajectory for certain people. And their careers could have gone one way versus, you know, another way. So I'm glad that they're bringing that to light. But I think it starts with your with your home for sure. I agree. Because, you know, there's a lot of parents that you look and see the parents were having a good time hanging out. That meant that the parent was down. Like if you liked Dan because you thought your kid is going to be successful.

and be rich because of they're hanging out with him, but behind closed doors, you're waking up on the couch and Dan is filling you up. Yeah, no. As a parent, you have a responsibility as well. Because that kid is your responsibility for 18 years. Yeah, well, so. And you know what I'm saying?

So I feel like, thank God, I did have a household where my mom wasn't having it and I wasn't out like that, but my personality also was like, I wasn't going to just follow the crew of what it looked like. Because even by the time you were 2021, I was driving by 16, I was emancipated by 16. I was technically legally adult in entertainment.

but I just always knew better and I was like I don't want to do that and even now when I look back at certain girls who disappeared because they either got pregnant or they did certain things where they got caught up with the wrong crowd it's very sad but I'm also again grateful that

you have the protection of someone who is like that's not going to be my child? Absolutely not and this is how we're going to keep moving so I think I've adopted that same mindset even now I love to hang out like I have celebrities most of my friends are in entertainment and artist.

That's just how I grew up. I go to the party. Going to college, right? There was in college. You knew at 2 a.m. Come on, man. If this guy was calling, you knew he wasn't calling just to hang out.

Oh, let's just read a book. We're not doing this. It was called the booty call for a reason. Stop it. You knew what it was. You knew. So why, like, let's come on. No different than the guy that was, I think, the one agent where he'd call you over and,

hey, I'm in my robe. I want to study lines at you at two or three. You're like, come on. Like, come on. Like, come on, I'm a grown woman, I'm an actor, but you're going to go to a hotel when he says we're very little, and you open the door and he's standing there with a robe, just dig out.

What do you think is going on? You think you're auditioning? The discernment of a woman also you have to follow, because the moment you don't leave with discernment is when some stuff going to go down. You got to use your common sense too. Yes, you have to. You have to think about it. And I'm not saying, look, I do think things happen.

Yes. Things happen for sure. Yes. But I think when you know when you, where you're going, read the road. And the time, everybody knows that the freeze comes out. Nothing, yeah. Nothing happened.

Read the weather, you know. Listen. After 12, ain't nothing good happening. After 12 ain't nothing but open but legs. That's exactly what it. You know, you know this. You know certain things. After you know men, and I grew up with a brother.

I had a lot of uncles. So when you're a woman that grows up around guys, you hear them talking, you be like, ooh, y'all nasty. And you hear certain things so you don't get played by certain guys telling you certain things that you think. is like, oh my God, I can't believe he said that to me. I'm like, girl, he's lying. You know what I'm saying?

Certain things that you hear. Yeah. But as a young girl growing up, I think it takes your upbringing. Yeah. And the stuff that you're hearing. I think it starts with the parents. It starts with your parents talking to you about stuff. It's a very open talk.

I have an open conversation with my son, my daughter. They tell me everything. They know they can tell me everything. I love that. And it is an open dialogue about everything. Why not? That's what it should be as a parent. It has to be that parent.

Like, it's like, I don't care what you have to say. come to talk to me. It doesn't matter. They know it's a safe space. They could say whatever they want as good or bad as it is. It can go all on the kitchen table. That's so we spew it all out. It should. And yeah, and they know it's a safe space. And we have a great episode about this even in divorced sisters where, you know, the boy is coming home high. Like the son on the show is like something is wrong. So the mom and dad are trying to reprimand him. He's not listening. They wake him up out of bed. Dad is like peeing his cup. He's like, I'm not going to pee in a cup. He said, pissing this cup right now. It's going to be a problem. He grabs him, throws him up against

the wall, he makes him, you know, pee in this car. Very next morning, they go in the room, the kid is passed out. Kid is unresponsive. Mom goes down the hallway. She gets some Narcan and it wakes him up and he's like, and he starts coming too. So the first thing the husband asks is like, where the hell do you get Narcan and why do you have it? She said, because I've been noticing some changes in my son.

I knew that if something is going to happen, I need to be prepared. So for her to have that, it saved his life on the show. So like you said, the parents discernment knowing their children and knowing some kids naturally have a personality where they're just a follower. Yes, they do. They do. They absolutely do. My kids are all different.

Like my daughter, you don't have to worry about her. She ain't going to do everything what everybody has to do. She does not. She's not going to do it. And if she does, she's too guilty, she'll tell me about it. And then we're going to talk about it. My son might take a little risk here and there. Oh, no, what he's going to do.

But at least he'll be honest about it. It might be stupid. He does some dumb ass shit. This kid doesn't hate to say it. Don't you hate to say it. Dumb ass shit. Dumb. That's the thing. I would love twin boys. I want twins so bad. I'm like, do I want two little dummies?

Hopefully they're smart. But at the same time, certain boy, you'll be looking and be like, why did you make that decision? I look at my son all the time. I go, I'll say to him, I go, say it out loud. Say it out loud. Say it out loud. Say it out of say it just said to me and say it out loud. And if it makes sense, we'll go with it. But say it out loud. Say that dumb shit out. Again, women naturally, I love us. We just, we be so smart. Like, a lot of times, even girls in school, look how much smarter the girls are than the boys. all the time. I'd always be like, God, these boys

is dumb. They're cute but just dumb. So when you're raising a child, like you said, as I love it, that you're a mom to a son and a daughter, you have to raise them

probably differently. Yes, I do. You have to. And they're so different. They are so completely different. But my son, both the sons. The patience. Patience, not there.

I lost it a long time ago. So are they older than your daughter? My daughter's the oldest. She's the 18-year-old and then she has two little brother. She has a 15-year-old and then the 8-year-old. So the 15-year-old. the young ones be the problem though

The young one is he They always said in the last child The mouth, the mouth This kid rallied all the kids at school Rallied them Literally told them We're Jewish so he told them that Santa wasn't real The teacher calls me

Oh my God And says Levi told all the kids That Santa's not real And what could I say? I'm like we're Jewish So well we don't believe But he gathered all the kids though On the ground But look at it gathered

I think you have a future leader on your hands Good job. Now, gather them on the playground, took court and told them, listen, guys, Santa's not real. He ruined these kids life. But at the end of the day, Levi, were you wrong? No.

But that was not his job to tell him. Then you arguably, he's like, well, you're lying to these kids. I'm like, oh, God. See, I think the young kids are the truth tellers. Yes. And that's the one thing I like, like I said, my brother is 18 years older than me. And in a way, I was always, like the peacemaker didn't always

stand up, but now I'm like, I'm gonna tell it like it is. I don't gotta hold back. And I think that's the younger sibling mindset. Yes, but you are not supposed to, did you not grow up where whatever went on in your house, you shut your mouth. You're not allowed to tell the business in your house. And you know what? And I never said a word. My son, you're right. And you're right though, but that's

the thing. But again, if you think of now how that could be detrimental to a kid, because let's say if a kid is going through some issues, don't talk about it, don't bring it to the school, don't tell nobody, but then all of a sudden years later, that trauma collects later and you're like, See, it started in the household.

Every relationship, I guarantee you now, that don't work is a reflection of your childhood. If you're triggered by something a man tells you in a way he says it, it might have been how your father talked to you or your cousin or your brother. It's all childhood trauma. So it's like you have to take that childhood and really cultivate it in a way. Like you said, as a parent, you're only doing the best that you can and what you knew. So your household, he's not wrong, but it's just not his job to go tell all the kids. He rats us for everything.

I know. Something's local. We wrap us out for everything, telling our parents telling on us to our own parents. Little ones are tattletails. Such a snitch. And little ones, because guess what? It gets some more attention. Yeah, I know.

I realize that little kids tell the most because why the older siblings are the responsible ones. They're doing stuff behind closed doors. They're a little more sneaky. The older ones are sneaky. The middle one is kind of like, he's riding the fence on boat, but that little one, don't give a damn. Nope. Because he's going to tell everybody. He got me one time.

Lily does drugs. I go, Lily does drugs. He said, go in her car, open up the door. I'm done. There's going to be drugs in there. So I go in there and there's a wine bottle in there. He's like, I told you drugs. Told you.

Drugs. Drugs. Yeah. And that's her little brother. Yeah. Snitch. Levi's snitch. Levi is such a snitch.

I love that name too. Levi is so cute. There's another celebrity. I don't know if it's Gwen Ointraulte. I know she's Apple. I think one of her kids, some celebrity has a son named Levi. I love it. I think that's so cute though.

So what is next for you? I mean, you really are doing. everything. Yeah. What's your next big? I know you have a whole bunch of different projects, but like is there something that you really want to achieve that you haven't yet? Is there something like that you're manifesting? I think the next big thing is like tour. I would love to be on a music tour. Like I said, this dance music. I believe in. I do. I dance. I choreograph. I've been doing that since I was I was professionally trained by 11. Like I said, the junior high school's performing arts, ballet jazz, tap, modern. I've been dancing since I was young. Did you do MTV the

The Grind? No. No. You know, so here's a thing. So, Even 106 and Park was a big show like on MTV. I'm not MTV, I'm sorry, BET. And I think I broke a record. At one point I was in every video, all 10 videos in one day on the countdown. Whether I was a lead girl, whether I was a dancer, the choreographer, I was in every video. So I love dance and performance. So for me, the next step is like, I want to go on tour.

I want to have this dance music. I want to be at the Coachella festivals overseas opening and dancing and showing my music. Like that's, to me. music is something that you can't always teach. Again, you could teach people how to sing. But the performance side of things, you can't necessarily teach performance. Even like now, the Michael movie is out. When you think of Michael Jackson, the greatest performer of all time, yes, obviously his dad beat his ass and was like, you're going to perform. But to cultivate that level of artistry and performance, that's God-given talent. Yeah, I believe that. I don't, I think that you're God-given talent. There's no way I can perform. That's just not my talent. You can't do that. Mariah Carey, vocalist of all.

All time. Whitney Houston, vocalists of all time, Prince. These people were destined to be great and to be performers. So to me, yeah, you can learn how to act. You can do all that and you can get a lot of takes. But music is like that instant gratification being on stage when someone's like, I love your song. I love how you perform. It's like in the moment. It's so beautiful. So for me, I want to perform. I want to go on tour. And I've already performed. Like, I went to Dubai in Qatar. When I tell you, I performed at this wedding, it was a $2 million wedding. And it was insane. Just watching the, the wealth, the culture. And it's like, I want to perform overseas.

I want to do weddings and just artistry because they love, they love you over there. Like Americans, we're good, but go to Germany, go overseas somewhere, and they love you differently. I appreciate you. They love you differently. So that's the next step that I would love. And of course, more seasons of our show. That's exciting.

I want to be in a big movie as well. You will. Only, I mean, several movies, but I'll start with one to be. Listen, you're going to do it. I could feel it. You're just, your energy is so, it's, it's. so authentic. It's so real. I mean, anyone that wouldn't star you as the star.

How about this? We do our own project and I'll start my own movies because that's the next thing. You can be your own director. Who cares? Do direct your own, you can do it? Your own projects now, I think that's the wave of the future is like not selling for networks to actually pick up your show and wait for that moment. There are shows right now that are online that are on YouTube, that are on platforms that are killing it because someone believed in themselves. Patreon. Issa Ray started there on so many different shows. It's like you can believe in yourself and start your own project. And that's what I love about this. Again, the time now is to be a self-proclaimed entrepreneur, director, writer. Do it yourself. If someone doesn't believe in it,

do it yourself. I think that is the message of today's show is that you really can be a self-proclaimed whatever you want. And you are the spitting image of it. That if you want to be an actor, you know, you want to be a singer, a dancer. I mean, you are literally doing that. I hope that you take time and really, really embrace that. Do you ever do that? Take time and like look at your trophy room and say shit. I did that. I love that. I think when I go back and look at my my IMDB and I see some credits or people like, oh my God, I loved you on this show. I'm like, oh crap, I did do that. I've done a lot already for my, to me, small amount of years on this earth. You know what I'm saying? Like I have so much more to do, so much more to develop. I feel like

I'm just getting started. That used to be my Vice Space headline. Just getting started. And in my mind, I'm like, but I am. There's so much more to do. But I already know like, I envision it. I can see it. So to me, it's not far-fetch. It's just saying, how can I get it to happen? If I want to perform at these festivals, the music has to come out. I have to promote the music. I have to do the videos. You have to do the work.

And if people love it, they're going to gravitate to it. Absolutely, they will. It's like people gravitate to authenticity. Like you said, that's what I feel like I'm very good at as being authentically myself. And they can smell it if you're fake. I can play characters all day long. That's my job is to portray a fake character. But Portia at the root is the businesswoman, the friendship person who's calling to check on you.

Like, I'm so discerning. somebody will pop in my mind, and I'll call them, be like, what's wrong? They'll be like, what do you mean? I'm like, what's wrong? Well, this just happened. How did you know? I feel, as a cancer, I'm a feeler.

Like, I feel other people's energy. And sometimes it gets draining where I'm like, okay, I don't want to feel this much. I don't want to feel everybody's problems. But again, I feel like I can take on a lot of burdens and I can deal with a lot of weight on my shoulders because I think I was born to be that way. So I'm born to give love and to give support

and to pour into other people. But I also had to realize I need to do it also for myself. Absolutely. you have to fill your own cup. You have to fill your own cup. If your cup is empty, you can't fill somebody else. You cannot, absolutely.

Yeah. And if people want to find you, I mean, I'm sure everybody knows where to find you, but where can they find you? Of course. Instagram, Facebook, Twitter,

Snapchat, MySpace, I probably go check it. But if you say hi, I might say hello back. It's just at Portia Colch-O-L-E-M-A-N. And there's so much to come. Like I said I'm excited about

what the future holds. And of course, I'll have to just come back and drop more team. Girl, we have to. On some other stuff. We're going to have to. Yes, we need to. We're just going to do a show on like just real tea. I love it. And again, thank you so much. Like I said, you have a great platform. And I love how you're bringing people on to talk about their passions, their goals, their dreams and how being a boss encompasses so much. Yeah, it's your just not boxed into like an account. I mean, everybody's a boss in their own right. It's just what are you going to do with it? What are you going to do with your boss behavior? So you've got to be a boss and I think she's a boss I'd like to follow.

I love that. I love that. I love that. Let's join in. Yes. Thank you. I mean, this episode today, I think every woman needs to watch. Thank you. If you do not watch Portia, whether it's on this show or on her own show, whatever, you guys have to follow, like her.

So if you like today's episode, go ahead, subscribe, like, unsubscribe. I don't care. Just do something. Just do something. You know? Come on. Don't leave me any unsolicited advice, though. We don't want that.

Because if we do, we're just going to delete and block you anyway. Yeah. And then I'm just going to troll you. So don't do it. Well, we'll shout you out exclusively. Oh, well, thank you for coming by today. I appreciate. easy, but thank you for making the time. It's good. I got you and I'm happy to be here and to be

continued. And I would get her shoes, but there's seven and a half. I can't wear her. They're so cute though. But thank you for having me on. I appreciate it. It was amazing.