BILFPOD - Rachel McCord: The Heart-Stopping Moment That Changed Her Forever

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

New Episode — BILFPod x Rachel McCordShe was building her empire at full speed—until life forced her to slow down and listen to her heart.Rachel McCord is no stranger to the spotlight. From humble beginnings to Hollywood red carpets, she’s built a brand rooted in empowerment, authenticity, and healing. As the founder of The McCord List, she’s helped thousands of women find their voice—but her own journey wasn’t always picture-perfect.In this raw and heartfelt episode, Rachel joins Mara to talk about:The moment everything changed—and what her heart taught her about slowing downNavigating trauma, faith, and fame as a heart-led entrepreneurThe cost of hustle culture and the gift of surrenderBuilding a brand rooted in softness, service, and self-worthWhy purpose over perfection is her mantra for successWhether you’re in a pivot, building a business, or healing from something heavy—this episode will light a fire in you. 🔥✨ Get ConnectedFollow Rachel: @iamrachelmccordFollow Mara: @maradorneFollow BILFPod: @bilfpodBe a guest on BILF: maradorne.com/bilfpodcast#BILFPod #RachelMcCord #SoftIsPowerful #HealingInBusiness #TheMcCordList #SlowDownToRise #WomenWhoLead #FaithAndFame #BossIdLikeToFollow #MaraDorne #SoftIsPowerful #HealingInBusiness #WomenInBusiness #LeadershipPodcast #PodcastLife #BossTalk #EntrepreneurPodcast #BILFEnergy

The fact that your heart is beating is evidence that you have a huge purpose in this life. So don't undercut yourself because maybe you've been weighed down with heavy laundry and a messy house and a lot of cooking and all of the obligations as a mom in business trying to make your way but also maybe feeling insecure putting yourself out there. Like you have to remember A you're a purpose, B, you have to remember that you've got to push through. So it's almost like if you've been on a merryground for 30 years of your life and you finally get off the merryground, you're going to be dizzy. But that's okay. Get comfortable in that because in that transformation, you truly change. And the third is you've got to think about the people in your corner. What you think about, you truly bring about. You speak life or death.

So if you become aware of your thoughts, you can become aware of the people around you and what their words are and how you're edifying one another. We're authenticity, Trump's authority. We are live on set at the Godfrey. And I am so excited today because our next guest is also an amazing BILF. She is, well, I'll let you, I'm gonna let you talk about who you are and what you do. But first, do you know what a BILF is? Okay, so I gotta be honest. When I first heard that I was gonna be on BILF, I was like, oh, okay.

And I told my husband, and I just saw it in a text, you know? And so my husband was like, is it a good? guy interviewing you and I was like no he's like okay that makes me feel better then I was like oh it's a boss I like to follow follow follow it's yeah I'm dead oh my god that's so funny that was a whole like husband wife conversation that is so funny so you might have thought this is like an inappropriate podcast well I said yes to it because my friend asked me and then I was like oh like that's unique you know but like I'm here for it and then I'm like and then later when I knew what it was I was like oh she's smart because that's a real stuff yourself like I'm sorry you said what

It's really good. A boss I'd like to follow. That's what it is. We're here with Rachel McCord, who is an author, TV personality, mom. I mean, you've had so many accolades. You are a heart surgery survivor, which is something I really want to talk about. I don't want to get too deep, but I mean, just that in itself, and we'll touch on that. But an entrepreneur, I mean, is there anything that you don't, I mean, you are a true bill.

I don't sleep enough, apparently. No, every time I hear all the hyphens, I'm like, I need more sleep. But no, I feel like I'm finding balance now. But you said we're not going to go too deep. So I'm going to have to keep myself back. Because I'm the girl. I'm the girl who's like, oh, we're going to go snorkeling.

I'm like all the way in the bottom. No, let's go deep. And I just, I don't know. You never know how much depth this blonde girl in L.A. has. No, never. No, but, you know, I will let's see. I don't know. Well, one thing I didn't tell you.

I know we like talked it up real quick. So my dad actually died of a heart attack. No. Yeah, at 38 years old when we were on vacation. So on vacation with your family with yeah when I was six years old isn't that crazy six years old yeah oh man I'm so sorry that is that is so sad so it's I mean so like the silver line is I mean we were meant to meet yeah we were meant to meet. Oh this might be a dad hug you know what I call him god hugs this is like this might be your dad being like hey and I'm wearing my open heart surgery red so I love that I love that

But I'm sure just being a survivor, first of all, like, I can't imagine. I really can't even imagine what that's like. You're so young. You've gone through something so traumatic. But your perception of life must be completely different. And this happened. Happy anniversary. Thank you.

Almost a year ago. Yeah, almost a year ago where I'm sure your life was completely turned upside down. So your perception of life and living intentional with purpose, I'm sure, is forefront in your life right now. So let's tell everybody, like, a little bit about you. Let's start there. And then we'll go into that and just how you live your life right now and what your intention is. But let's start where it really started. You started your first business 24 years old.

Yep. So I literally started working when I was 13. So I grew up in a lot of trauma, like trailer parks, Georgia girl. And I just really, I think when I was 13, I didn't realize what it was, but I was struggling with depression. And I became this like operating depressed person who just threw all of my attention and energy into becoming a workaholic. So I started working and I started working. And even the time I was working for a small business, and they couldn't really afford me for as long as I wanted to be there. So it's like, it's fine.

I'll clock out and I'll just keep working. So I'd work like 12-hour days every single day because I just honestly didn't want to go home. And I just started taking on more and more responsibility. By 16, I was managing it. I was offered my own space, like it was a restaurant. So I was offered my own location at 18. And I was like, I think I've gone to the top of where I'm going to go in this industry.

I don't want to do that. So I started working at the largest PEO. in the world, ADP. I'm sure someone's gotten a bank, like a check from there. I know ADP. Right? So it was really funny because it's an HR company and they asked me how old I was in the interview because I was 17 when I was interviewing. They're like, I think you're one of the youngest employees who's ever worked here. So I started doing that and just kept on trying to like climb this invisible ladder of success, right? And then my sister booked 902 and O after she had done NipTuck and suddenly her brand was just like skyrocketing. But we were homeschooled.

So coming from trauma and homeschool life, it was like very overwhelming for her. So she asked my oldest sister and I to come out to LA. And I'm like, I'm not sure about that because I was approved for my first house. I was 19. I had a whole plan like, picket fence. I was gonna create the stability I hadn't had

because I had moved like 32 times before I was 16 years old. So I was like, I just need life. You know, I need the life that I'm in control of. But I got a job in LA and so came out here and started really making friends and connections and relationships. And then, you know, a couple years later, I realized that I enjoyed hosting events. I liked the creativity, but I liked the structure. I'm a total nerd. I like to organize and plan every little micro detail. My husband, spreadsheets, he told me. Oh, sportsheets. I

speak them fluently. Chat. GBT, BT is my best friend. It's really funny because my husband, before my surgery, would call me a type AAA, like, not like a type A, like a nut job. But, But anyway, so I started my first company, then I sold it at 24, and then that's when I started my second company. And it was honestly of all my life, all that worked the first time I asked myself, like, what do I actually want to do with my life? Like, what am I here for? And so I started doing female empowerment and trying to make a difference. And I started building this big community of influencers, celebrities, friends, who I wanted to uplift and empower and courage. And, you know, what I love about the word encourage is it comes from the word heart.

So it's actually about putting courage in someone's heart. And that just really got me. And, you know, I built that for 10 years. And then I started running education, innovation at this big fashion trade show called Magic and loves it. It was like Fashion Candy Land. I was booking talent, interviewing them, having so much fun. And then I got offered a show for Bloomberg television called Female Founders. Girl, I got in the Jumbotron in Times Square.

I was like, oh, my gosh, we're filming at NASDAQ. I was like, oh my, I think I'm a little taller. Is it the heels? You know, I was like, filling herself. I love that. And then it was like, and you have a, like, you need heart surgery. It was literally like just like that. It was so crazy.

Everything was kind of popping and all the things that I had climbed towards. And, you know, I think- Were you having heart problems? For eight years. I was passing out, passing out while I was trying to give birth to my baby. Like shortness of breath, all the things. And then, you know, here I was living someone else's dream life. because if you actually look back at my history,

I was doing so many things that I'm grateful. I'm so grateful for. I mean, it didn't even make sense. Like the Bloomberg thing, like, literally a friend of mine was producing the show, took me out for dinner. I'm like, what? I should be taking you out for dinner? And just said, would you take on this show?

We booked someone else, but I think you're the person. I mean, just crazy stuff that doesn't happen to normal people, right? And I was just like, how is this all happening? And then it was like, I really got fed up. And I'm a big believer, whether it's in business, your family, your life. that you will change when the fear and the pain of staying the same becomes bigger than the change, right? So I was like, you know what, I'm sick of feeling sick.

I've got to figure this out. And I went to a different cardiologist, and, you know, I've been going to the same person for eight years. We knew I had a condition that was congenital, but we weren't, like, getting clarity. Because he was like, yeah, but, you know, it's a mild condition. I'm like, well, I'm having really extreme things. And I'm in my 30s. Like, in my early 30s, this can't be normal. And finally I was just fed up.

I went to someone else and literally within two weeks it was like, I'm recommending open heart. I'm recommending heart surgery. And I was like totally like loopy from the meds of like having been put under for this test. And so I, you know, all of a sudden my life just stopped. And it was literally like like heartbeats, like became so precious. Like I would come to rooms and I'd be like, whoa, there's so many heartbeats here. Because there's so many heartbeats and we take for granted every beat of our heart and every breath of our lungs.

And then you start thinking, like, why am I here, dude? Like, God, why did you create me and put me in this planet? Like, why am I here? There's got to be something more than all these things that I'm doing. There's got to be something more. And so my heart just almost, like, cried out for something. And then, you know, we're, like, rushing towards finding the right surgeon, make the right decision. And I just keep looking at my little kid.

My son was three years old. And I would just, like, look at him and be like, like, I'm trying to, like, keep it together, you know. By the way, it's so cute because right over there, the little plant goes in the shape of a heart on their balcony and I'm like, I see you, I see you. I love when that happens. I would just look at my son and I'd be like,

first trying to like act like I was chill because I didn't want to scare him. My son is like very intuitive. And then I would just be like, I don't know how many more heartbeats I have with you little man, you know? And so we got my heart, we did more tests and then it came down to like two weeks. Okay, now we're definitely doing surgery,

you got two weeks. And it was like, how do I, like, cram a lifetime? So now you're, like, possibly planning out your life right now and what, like, what could be. Yeah. So the after of this, I can't even imagine. It was so weird, Mara, like, it was so weird. I feel like, it's like, how do you, like, think about it.

You're going to go on a trip. You're planning. You got two weeks to plan for your trip. Oh, like, maybe I need to order a new dress, get some new shoes, you know? It's like, how do you plan for, in two weeks, they're going to stop my heart. And I don't know if it's going to start back.

One in five people does not survive this surgery. So I'm trapped between, do I even do the surgery? Like, can I just, like, not do it? And then, like, see my heart. And they're like, maybe heart failure in the summer. I'm like, okay, well, that doesn't sound great, you know? And so you're between genuinely a rock and a hard place. And I feel like, you know, my whole life, I believed in God and everything,

but it was literally like you get to this point and you've really got to figure out what getting your affairs and order means. You know, when they're asking for your will and all this paperwork, like, everything becomes real serious, real fast. And if you're not standing on faith that's bigger than you, then this is where type AAA reaches the end of herself, right? Because I'm going to lay on a table and be completely vulnerable to what's going to happen. And I have no idea how that's going to pan out. So I've got to trust that someone, something, is looking out for me. And I'm not putting my trust in a surgeon, right?

because I believe that while extremely qualified, and I have the most amazing church, and she's like, I'm obsessed with her. I love her so much. I love that she's a female thing. I know. She's like the top chair at Cedarsina. I mean, I'm like, yes, she is, girl boss.

That makes her sense. But with all of that, you know, at the end of the day, we're all human. We're all doing the best we can. And she didn't know the physical or the emotional heartbreak that I had faced my whole life. And when does a heart just give out?

Yeah. When do you just have too much? And so it was really after the surgery that all of the emotions started to come. And, you know, we've got this marketing agency, my husband and I, that's still operating. And my husband's kind of like, well, you know, you're not all like taped up. Are you, you want to get back into work? Like, are you going to do the show? Like, people are asking, you know.

And I just couldn't be about my old life. I couldn't. I was like, you know, I'm so, like, how do you go from conversations with your kid? like, hey, remember, you got to choose God no matter what. Because when everything else fails, when it will in this life, you got to make sure you have him. Right? Like, how do you go from those conversations because you're looking at a clock and a date and it's getting like more and real? How do you go from that to like, oh, well, so tell me about this.

It's just so difficult to come back into a physical, normal world when you've had this, like, spiritual awakening in your soul. And so, this is a year ago. You finally, like, have this awake, of true, like, real awakening. Like, people say it, like, you invite it. I am woke. So here you are, and now you're like, I have to live with meaning and purpose. You know, it's like just talking to you.

Sorry to, like, even cut you off. But, like, I think people don't realize that the way that we live our life and the things that we get upset about and they're so menial until you actually face an experience that's truly life or death. So now you're at this crossroad

and you're like, okay, I have to make a decision, I have to live with intention, purpose, and something that I really believe in, and now what happens? That's a beautiful question. I really feel validated by what you've said, because I feel like you get it, like, in that season. So I started praying, honestly. I was like, God, I want to do the Jesus thing.

I don't want to do the racial thing anymore. Like, I've been doing all the things that were like racial. Were you religious prior or no? I was, yes. I had actually had a pretty wild spiritual encounter in August of 2018 that changed my life. And then again, another one in June of 2019. And it really wrecked me.

Like I was like, whoa. I was like, a fire was birth within me. But growing up, God was spoken about. But I... But not religious. Girl, I had no. Like, it was not good. It was like the church hurt stuff.

You know what I mean? It was like some of the, like, most galliest people were like the scariest people. So it's funny when I tell some people my stories, they're like, how do you even... I was like, because it's not the same thing. Yeah. Right? We think, we see like that. and we think, oh, that's what it is.

I don't want anything to do with it. It's like, no, I'm talking about relationship. I'm talking about real faith. I'm talking about putting the very beat of your heart on God. The scripture literally says, trust the Lord your God with all your heart. So there's no way that I could trust more of my heart than to put my very heartbeat into someone else's hands, right?

Like that is genuinely trusting someone. And so I feel like that has been just like this season of life of just like, what do you do now? Like, how do you do what you're here for? How do you carry that on? And so I launched a brand. I literally was in a Jama Jus. I was in a very bad mood.

So it wasn't like I was like breathing fresh. There wasn't a glow. It was just I was in a Jama Juice waiting for my food. And I literally saw someone walking out of the front door. And on their back, I just saw Holy Spirit vibe, like appear on their back. And I was like, that's really cute. I like that name. So I start checking.

I look online. I look on social media. It's available. which is crazy because nothing's available. Like you're not spending 10 Gs on it. You're not getting that URL. There is. It's right there.

Everything's available. It's right there. Everything's available. So we do these charms. I love this. Isn't that fun? Yes, I love it. I absolutely love this.

Well, I believe that, you know, we really overcome by the power of story, of testimony, of just hearing someone else coming to life. When I went back to Magic for the first time after my surgery, one of my favorite guys. He's amazing. His name's Donne. He is fabulous. And he literally was like, listening to me tell my story because I haven't seen what's happening. Meanwhile, I'm wearing my hoodie

that I've started, Holy Spirit vibe. I'm showing it for the first time. He's like, it's like you like went into this blender of difficulty and have come out a new person. And I thought it was like, well, for one, you're wearing sweats at magic. Now, mind you, I used to like do 14 outfit changes at magic. It was like two twos and sequins and pearls. You know, so he was like, this is weird in general. But don't you think that like the truth of anything, right? How strong your business. It's based on your fruit. Like how well is your business doing? Because everyone wants to like flex, like,

oh, I've got this, it's working, my team loves me, everything. But like, at the end of the day, what impact are you making? How is it impacting their families and their families' families? Because I look at it now as a leader, because I was a terrible leader at times.

I think we're all gonna test, so we've had some bad leadership, yeah. Some bad leader. Something that we probably shouldn't talk about. Probably shouldn't talk about, right? Those moments. But I think about how I had to have this awake have this awakening within me because I was putting so much pressure on myself as a leader that

I needed to get it right. And the moment that I didn't have it right, it was the end, right? It was like, you're, you know, I'm sure you've heard this. Like, your only, your company's only as strong as you are, right? You have a day off. Your company is it. That's not really true. And if you don't take rest, like for me, I'm like a Sabbath girl. So if you don't take rest, you actually don't launch for it. It's actually really good for you. I spend so much time, like coming up with ideas in my rest time. So I think just learning. that I was living my whole life upside down because it was the norm. Like I, like for worldly standards, I was crushing it.

Like I'm like, oh, you know. But then when you think about like, like there's a point in everyone's life and they're going to get to that moment and you could call it a midlife crisis, you could call it, you know, the end or whatever, but it's like you get to that moment and you really start thinking like, mm, I don't think I want to do that. Because every time you say yes to something, you gotta say no to something else. So am I saying yes to the right things? Right.

Because I'm having to say no to other things. And I certainly don't want to be saying no to the right. things while I'm saying yes, the wrong things. So now, okay, so now you launch a company. The company, they do, they, you do charms. We do charms, we do apparel. So hoodies, all apparel, okay. Crew necks. It's so funny, because I never thought,

I thought whatever I did would be like like this, you know, dramatic. But like, no, that was not the plan. No, it's not, I mean, look, the way, like, it's funny how life works, right? You always think you're going down one path, and then all of a sudden throws you a curveball, and here you are and you're trying to figure it out.

And it's so comfy, so I get to wear sweats all the time and it's like my job. It's marketing. It's great. I love that. So where are you located? Like, where's your brand at? In L.A. So all my apparel is here. Our supplier is in California. So I love that. And, you know, and I'm actually doing some really fun premium stuff now that will literally hand paint and do just like one-off pieces that are just more so about like kind of having this like beautiful, prayerful creative expression. Because, you know, when you're ordering a ton of inventory and you're like me, it's like, I want to be a part of that. It's like, well, I can, We make these. We'll come out to events. I'll come and speak at conferences.

These are geared towards like what's personable to people. It's personal. Yeah, so it's so personalized. So I love. For me, I love my kids, right? I love that. So maybe a mama for you. I have mama here. That's so cute. I mean, I'm just looking at all the different ones that you. Can you explain the ones that you have? Because they're beautiful. Thank you. Okay. So this one right here is my heart and it has a beat on it to represent how my heart beat came back. When I was really scared for my surgery, I was told that I was going to soar through it. It was like this prophetic word, so I got an airplayed.

I was also like a little afraid of flying. And I started being like, dude, if like, I'm afraid to fly. Okay, well, so I asked this woman, she's got really strong faith. I was like, well, what do you do about like fear of this happening or that happening? And she's like, what are you afraid of? What do you mean? She's like, well, nothing can happen because you're a child of God. Like, nothing can happen that doesn't pass over his hand. So you have to like have faith that like he'll work all things together for good.

And so I hold onto that, like in moments where I get scared. So I would challenge myself with this airplane. I was like, Rachel, every time you see it, you need to really ask yourself, like, why am I feeling afraid? Because do I have faith or not? Because you're either, you're believing in an outcome. You're either believing it's a good thing or it's a bad thing. But you're either yielding to faith or you're yielding to fear. And so you have to kind of decide into that.

I know that for me and my house, I don't want to roll like that. I move with faith. I believe the best thing. I speak life over my life, over my family, my business, my, my, my, especially my little man, like trying to teach him how to think about the world in a positive way. I mean, we had this, like, ugh, for like two months he was dealing with a bully. Girl. I mean, so now having to-

Don't talk to me with a bully. I'm inappropriate mom. I'm so inappropriate. No, but I'll get you on the side. I'll get the kid on the side. Yeah, I will get the kid. I'm coming for you. I put the fear in.

Where's your mom? Yeah, right? Where's your mom, kid? Where's your mom. Well, you know, it was so interesting because I had to really hold those, like, because I was, like, twitching about it, but what I realized was this was actually an opportunity for Jude to learn. Isn't that a sweet little name, Jude? I love that. For him to learn how to think about his own identity outside of what people would say to him. Because think about it again, if I've

got two weeks left to live, I can't be the mama with the bat, you know, to show up and protect my baby. But I can teach him how to protect himself. And we start with the mind. Every battle starts in your mind. Every company starts at a thought. So we have to take like full control of your thoughts and be aware of what we're doing. And so when I lead leaders, like I work with a lot of female leaders now, like, I'm like, listen, like, I'm all about leaders. Like, I don't want to see you, like, be at 99% if you're meant to be 100%. I don't want to see you at 55% even if that's the best you've ever done. I'm like, that's amazing. Let's celebrate that. And now let's get you 100%. But it doesn't necessarily mean 100% of filling your schedule, 100% of success and

appellates. It's more about who are you created to be. Like who, like, like, it's such a beautiful, beautiful opportunity that you're even born. There's one in a 400 trillion chance that you're even here right now in this moment. How crazy is that? That's all the things that could have happened. Your parents could have just been two seconds later, a stoplight, all these different things, but you're here. And now you have a platform. You built an incredible team. You built an incredible business. You have changed generational wealth for many families. A good person provides for their children's children, right? You've helped people do that. And now you have a platform to do that at scale in a bigger platform and a bigger conversation.

And as you influence influential people, you'll be able to actually shift culture. Like really think about that. And this is what you're, so you're preaching this to your team right now. Yes, and I also am like building this community of people who are kind of been, I call it like New Testament, Rachel. Is it women or it's all inclusive?

It's all inclusive, but I just naturally find that women like me better. I know, I know, because I used to be a guy's girl and now I prefer to be, I prefer to be, I prefer to, around I love women, don't get me wrong, I mean men, but I prefer to work with women. Yeah, I really do. I feel like I'm such a like emo girl that like I do better with men in one-on-one that sounded weird. Sorry honey, my husband's like wait what? Like for example, our best friend Ryan is staying with us right now for like two days. He's like in town on a trip and you know I'll take the walk from the marina we live here on the water and and we'll have

this deep conversation. I realize that groups can be a little bit like just a little much sometimes, you know, for guys. Like they're going to have, I think, be a little bit more vulnerable. And I love the vulnerable conversations. Like, this is really funny. But there is a season when I had just learned about speaking life with your words, right? Power of life and death in your tongue. And I was all about mirror work. Have you heard a mirror work? Where you look in the mirror? You look at the mirror and you say, girl, not even lying. My friend was the CMO of Walmart and was staying with us over the holidays. And I was like, get in here. I'm not going to say his name because he would kill me.

I'm like, look in the mirror and I want you to say, I am lovable because I just... Did he do it? He did. He did. Did he feel better, at least? I think so. I think he felt really weird for a long time. But then, you know, what we're trying to do in this world is get comfortable in the uncomfortable, right?

You're never going to change it if you don't. Yeah, it's so true. That's my mantra is being uncomfortable with being comfortable and just putting yourself out there. But I think the, you know, one thing that really, one thing that we have in common is number one, we're a mom. But number two, it's the empowerment of women. and giving women that voice. Because there's not a lot. It's so crazy.

So many women, I think they don't realize how much power they really have. Yeah. So what would you say to the woman, some advice that you would give to a woman that is wanting to start their own deal? They're a mom. You know, they're just kind of like on the fence.

What advice would you give that person? Can I say it right to that? Yeah, of course. Hi. Hi there. Okay, so first of all, I would say the fact that your heart is beating is evidence that you have a huge purpose in this life.

So don't undercut yourself because maybe you've been weighed down with heavy laundry and a messy house and a lot of cooking and all of the obligations as a mom in business trying to make your way, but also maybe feeling insecure and putting yourself out there. Like you have to remember A, you have a purpose, B, you have to remember that you've got to push through. So it's almost like if you've been on a merry-go-round for 30 years of your life and you finally get off the merry-ground, you're going to be dizzy. But that's okay. Get comfortable in that because in that transformation, you truly change. And the third is you've been. You've got to think about the people in your corner.

It's very, very important. I know everybody says this, but this is really, really important because what you think about, you truly bring about. You speak life or death. So if you become aware of your thoughts, you can become aware of the people around you and what their words are and how you're edifying one another. I have zero time or interest in gossip or negativity or just like, like, how do I say this nicely?

I'm gonna say it rude. Like hopelessness that doesn't find itself. The victim mentality. Yeah. that I cannot change it because I will sit here and I will hear your story because obviously, I mean, we've got to feel it. The only way through it is through it, right? So you have to feel it to heal it. But there's a moment where we move and maybe it's a season, right? Maybe it's, because there's a season for all things. There's a time to cry, but there's a time to get back up.

I do that with my son. I'll sit on the ground when he falls like today on his scooter and I'll hug him and I'll feel the feels for him. And after a few minutes, I'm like, but you got to get back up. And even if you just roll two more inches, I just need to know that you got back up because it's very, very important as humans that we see our ability to push through adversity. We need to know that. It's actually for your brain. You're connecting neuro pathways. And your brain is actually like very mobile.

And we forget that. We think, oh, she's just like that. He's just like that. It's been 50 years. Okay, well, today is not yesterday. Yeah. And so for 51 years and then everything after, let's do something different. Let's call ourselves to more.

And that's where your friendships come. Because when you look around your friendships, it's really true. True what they say. The five people around you, I mean, I watched it with my son. They're like Plato, right? Like a bit of your color comes into my color. And when you're edifying and you're raising up with the goal of actually making a difference. And I really, I feel like so many times we see it in capitalism, but we have to remember it's spiritual. Like your plans to prosper don't have to be about financial. Everyone wants it to be first time. But I would so much rather teach my son how to make money than to have money, right? Because I could give them X amount of money,

right? Teach him to fish. Yeah, but exactly, but I got to teach him. So then you think about it, like, well, how do I teach you how to level up your soul and level up the people around you? Because the ripple effect is major. And we can help heal the world if we come together with that, with that choice, but not because it's like so untrend right now and there's a hashtag for it. Like, we have to do it because it matters, because there's a person here who matters and her life matters and how she feels today in this conversation, in this moment, she's going to bring back to her family, to her kids, to her employer, to whoever's around her. And then that's going to carry on and carry on. So I just believe that we can do that. And it's not that hard. It's really easy to be kind.

Yeah, it is. You know, I think Nike says it the best. I've had this conversation so many times. They came up the best slogan. It's just do it. 100%. And really, the only person that's getting in your way is you. So I think a lot of times for women, we fall victim to what society wants. of us and we fall victim to what other people think of us. Yes. And once we get outside of that, surround yourself, and I believe that 100%, it's the people that you surround yourself with.

If you're surrounding yourself with the drip drabs and the Debbie Downers and the people, the naysayers and the people that are just talking shit, that's who you're going to be. Your friends are, your mirrors. So it's so important to surround yourself with the right type of people. Yes. So as we wind down, you have given so many important just, what I really want people to take away is that your life is not that bad. Like, how about really face life or death?

And then let's talk about what decision you're going to make. And you've been there. And you really live a true testament of what life or death really looks like. And when the going gets tough, you didn't get going. Not only did you not get going, you persevered, you're living your life with intention and purpose. And anybody that is sitting there, you know, the self-pity bullshit and this other nonsense, like, I mean, we face horrible things, but what you face is horrible, awful,

trying to plan what your life is going to look like, whether or not you were here, right? You had a child, a baby, a little one at home, right? A husband, that's real stuff. So all this other shit that's going on over here doesn't matter. And it's living your life, your true authentic self, and being truthful with who you are, what you believe in, and what you're doing.

So if people want to find you because that is who you are and you are living with authenticity, faith, love, all of that, where will people find you? Well, thank you. And thank you for having me. This was really special. I'm like, I just want to gobble you up in my best friend list. Okay.

It's just holy spirit vibe.com. You'll find everything on there. And I, yeah, I'm on social at I am Rachel McCord. But if you just go to a Holy Spirit vibe, you'll learn more about it. I'm going to go on and get a necklace. I love this necklace. I can't stop staring at it. I love it.

I love you. Well, when I come to Florida, because I've got like a couple speaking engagements in that area, I'm going to have to look you up. And you'll have to come to L.A. all the time. Yeah, you can just, I mean, you don't have to look me up. You can just text me. That's what I mean, look you up in my contact list. I'm gonna go through the yellow page.

It did sound like that. That's actually kind of like, I think, from where the saying came from. Yeah, I'm like, no, you don't have to. I'm gonna, like, text you. You could text me. It's all good. I'm gonna sleep on your guest bed.

She's like, too far. Too. I'm joking. Don't worry. It's so much fun having you. I thank you for all your, just your perspective and really everything that you've gone through. You are a true, Bilt.

A true. Not in a creepy way. I love you. I always wanted you to say that to me. You are, you're a Bilt. You are a Bilt. You are a Bilt. We are survivor.

You are an inspiration to so many women. And I am so happy that you are here today. Thank you. Thanks, girl. Thank you. Bye, thank you.