BILFPOD - She Did It Scared: How Ebony Tillery Turned Struggle into a 7-Figure Business

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

New Episode Alert – BILFPod x Dr. Ebony TilleryDr. Ebony Tillery (@dr.e_thevirtualnp) is more than a family nurse practitioner—she’s an entrepreneur, educator, and founder of The Nursepreneur Academy. From helping nurses overcome burnout to building businesses that empower professionals, Ebony proves that purpose and profit can go hand-in-hand.Her story is about courage, resilience, and taking bold action even when the path isn’t clear. Ebony shares her unfiltered insights on entrepreneurship, building generational wealth, and creating a life that aligns with your values.In this episode:• How to start messy, start scared, but just start• Shifting from a salary mindset to building freedom• Balancing motherhood with entrepreneurship• Helping NPs beat burnout and scale their impact• Turning expertise into multiple streams of income✨This episode is a reminder that success isn’t about comfort—it’s about action, alignment, and designing your life on your own terms.Catch the full episode now streaming on all platforms.Get Connected:Follow Dr. Ebony Tillery → @dr.e_thevirtualnpFollow Mara Dorne → @maradorneFollow the Podcast → @bilfpod#BILFPod #MaraDorne #EbonyTillery #Nursepreneur #WomenInBusiness #EntrepreneurMindset #LeadershipPodcast #BossIdLikeToFollow #WorkLifeAlignment #FinancialFreedom #PurposeDrivenSuccess #BILFCommunity #UnfilteredSuccess #Mompreneur #StartMessy #TakeAction #LevelUpYourLife #TheNursepreneurAcademy

Close your eyes and think. Why are you where you're at now and why do you want to go to where you want to go, your journey? And just start. You just have to start. Do it scared. Do it afraid. You just have to start. I love that.

Just start. Welcome back to the Bill Pod where authenticity trumps authority. For those of you tuning in for the first time, my name is Mara Dorn. And I am here today with a very, very studious. beautiful doctor miss ebony tillary so welcome to the bill pod thank you thank you thank you for having me yes I'm so excited that you are here and I'm so excited to get in and just dig really deep but first I have to ask you because I ask every guest that comes on do you know what Bill stands for

yes tell me boss I'll love to follow yes yes some people I mean they've said some crazy things really you can only imagine you can't but before we get get started and dig deep. I just want to give you your flowers and your accolades because you deserve it. First of all, you are a very strong mom. I think the mom thing is huge. You are an entrepreneur, right? You run your own practice, your own workshops, masterminds. I mean, you really just do it all. A seven-figure earner, which is something, again, get your flowers. That's amazing. And you have, I know you're covering it, but you have something sparkly right there. So about to be married. Show that.

Show that. Oh, yes. Look at that. Look at you. That's so exciting. So another new chapter in your life. Yes. How are you feeling?

Amazing. Yeah, nervous. No, not really. You look well composed. You look like you're doing good. You're ready to dig deep and dive deep because you have a lot that you can give. Yes. Let's start first by acknowledging, like I said, that you're a mom.

And let's, you know, people, I have this conversation this morning. People ask me all the time, like, how do you balance? being a mom and an entrepreneur. How do you do that? Time management. And just since my son was a baby, so I was married to his dad, it didn't work out. We got divorced. I left when he was two.

So that transition was kind of hard for the both of us. And he's the only child. So he kind of grew up doing things independently. So he's a very independent boy. Yeah. So I don't have to do as much. for him. I'm still there with him, but he knows, okay, well, mommy has a meeting. Let me be quiet. Yeah. Let me not come in mommy's office. So we're kind of built that. Like when mommy's

working, no, no, no. He knows. Yeah, he knows. So, yeah, it's funny because it goes back to, I don't think that that's a real thing, work-life balance. I don't. I think that there is, there is sacrifice, but I don't know that balance is like a real, that's not a real definition. because I don't know about you, but like for me, I feel like when my personal life is doing really, really well, I'm like trying to juggle over here on the business side and then the kids side, like not everything is flowing at the same time. So I think it comes in matter of priority. So like you were saying, you know, my kids do, is there real balance in my life?

I mean, prioritize them for sure. But like balance as far as like on a scale of 50-50, like I'm spending 50% here, 50% here, I would say that's not realistic. No, no. You have to prioritize and do what needs to be done now. If something can wait, I let it wait. Yes, do it next day or so. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So before, because this is really important, you are a seven-figure earner, which is amazing. So let's talk about your story before. I know you're from New York, born and raised there, two parent, you know, came from a very nice home, two parents. And you kind of took a different direction. Yes. So born and raised in Brooklyn. I actually left Brooklyn at eight. like a few days after I graduated. I was out of there. So I decided to leave my son's dad and I purchased my first home in 2020 throughout this whole divorce stuff. And at that point, I'm like, I'm a single mom. What am I going to do? How am I figured this out? I don't have as much family support. So I had to figure it out. So 2020 and 2021, I had to travel. So I did the travel nursing thing and I had to leave my son with. I was a kid. I had to figure it out. So I had to figure it out. So I had to leave my son with. I was a little bit of my son. I had to figure it. So I was. I had to figure it. So I was. So I had to do. So I was so I was. So I was. So I had to do. So I

my mom. He was two, two years old. So I missed so much milestones. Yeah. Potty training, certain words. Even when I was, you know, out of time working and I would call him on his iPad, he would turn it to the wall because he was upset that mommy wasn't there every day. So that really, you know, broke me, but I had to do what I had to do in that situation. Yeah. You know, it's funny that you talk about that because a lot of a lot of myself, what I ended up having to do because I have offices everywhere in the U.S. I had to travel as well. Same thing, and I got a lot of mom shaming. There was constant mom shaming

and people having their own opinions, family, friends, I always call it the unsolicited advice that I didn't ask for that, for whatever. People just love to give me unsolicited advice. So, you know, the mom shaming became, I mean, pretty, I would say at like most family dinners.

People would talk about it, constantly, friends, how do you leave your son? How do you leave your daughter? I'm very simply put, I mean, I wanted a better life. And I think we want more for our kids than what we have for ourselves. So while, you know, that mom shame, I don't, maybe it makes them feel good. But honestly, like, there came a point where I was just like, I'm over the mom shame. I don't feel bad. I don't feel bad when my kids can travel.

I don't feel bad that my kids have nice things, have great experiences. Yeah, is it sad that we're not there as mom? Absolutely. Did I miss milestones? For sure. But would I change anything? I probably wouldn't. No.

No. So what would you say to people that were mom shame? you. I will say, well, that's your opinion, and this is what I'm going to do. This is how I'm feeding my son and myself. Are you going to help watch him? Are you going to help feed him? This is just what I have to do, unfortunately. And when I get to the point where I'm an entrepreneur and I can work from home and be with him 24-7, that's going to happen. Because whatever I say with my mouth, it happens. If I put my mind to something, it's going to happen. I say the same thing, Same exact thing.

I'm like, if I want to walk on water, I will walk on water, right? Being impeccable to your word. So what would you say to a woman? Maybe that's kind of on the fence right now trying to decide, you know, should I leave my kids? Should I travel? Like, what would you tell that woman? But it's a good, but it's a great opportunity for them.

What would you tell? I would say just start, just do it, and don't think about what the people say because they're going to talk regardless. I had to learn that. I used to be a people pleaser. I used to show up for this person, that person, show up here and there, and then I would drive myself crazy, run myself down when I'm just, I'm going to focus on me, do what makes you happy.

Yeah, I agreed. Well said. I love that. That's the same thing. And would you say that your son is your biggest inspiration? Yes, he is. He is. Just seeing him happy when I have birthday parties or we take trips or he's on an airplane,

it just melts my heart that I'm able to provide. his life for him. Yeah. And for him to see that you can do whatever you want. It doesn't matter if you want to be your artist. You can be the biggest artist. Yeah. Yeah.

What an inspiration you are. I mean, and mommy's doing it. That's like, that's my biggest motivator too or my children. I have a daughter. I have a 17-5-year-old daughter. And she is by far the biggest motivation ever because of society right now. And I was talking to before, you know, as women, we think that in a society that is westernized, that we've come so far.

And in reality, we're not that far along. You know, and then you add race and religion and everybody's noise or opinions. So as a society in general, you know, it really is disheartening how narrow-minded some people are. But in the same regard, you know, you should be so proud of yourself and where you're at and that you are, you know, a very dominating, I'm assuming alpha, alpha female, right? Alpha female. And, you know, you're just going after it in life. and that in yourself, I mean, that deserves an a round of applause for you so doing that.

So now, okay, so now you have this, you have all of these, you know, because there's always, we always have to talk about the fallback. That's so important. We have to talk about the setback because now is the comeback. Yes. So now you're there, you have a nursing degree, and you decide you're going to be an entrepreneur.

You leave the bedside, right? And you decide now I'm going to open up your practice. Yes. So let's talk a little bit about that and what you're doing. It's what we call a nurse. A nurse or mature? Tell me how you're saying. Nurse entrepreneur. Nurse entrepreneur. Okay.

So let's talk about that. Yes. So in 2020, after traveling, I was working 12-hour shifts, six days a week. My day off was Wednesday. Wednesday? Yes. Just a random Wednesday. Just a random Wednesday. And that completely burnt me out.

Not only, you know, not being able to see my son every day just working 12-plus hours during COVID. It was tiring. So once I stopped, I was like, look, Ebony. You work, you make it money. Now you're burnt out. What are you going to do? I'm like, okay. I know I'm not stepping foot in the hospital again.

I can't do it. I'm completely burnt out. So I sat down and I'm like, okay, you need to do something. And I'm like, you know, being an entrepreneur, it's kind of scary, especially for nurses, nurse practitioners, because we're so used to, okay, I want to take a trip. I'm going to pick up an extra shift. I want to go buy a purse. We're going to pick an extra shift. That's like our mentality.

and we're used to getting a check. Being an entrepreneur, you don't know if you're going to get that check or not. It's unpredictable. Yeah. So it's very scary. So I have a lot of nurse practitioners who are mentoring coach, and I'm like, you just have to start. Just start.

Don't be scared because if you don't start, six months is going to go by, and you're going to be like, well, should or coulda, would have. Yeah. So you just have to start. Can we talk about that for one second? I would say the, I don't want to call it salary. Well, I guess that would be salary versus commission. People ask me all the time, they're like, Mara, how did you do it?

Doing commission, and I say the same thing. You know, here's the deal. If you're betting on yourself every single time you're going to win, salary is safe. It's safe, right? But I think that's something that people have a mentality. It's instilled in them that we have to do salary because it's so safe. But when you become an entrepreneur, the full bet is on yourself, but you have full control on what you're making.

Yes. And that's what people don't see. Yes. Right? Is that as somebody that's commissioned or somebody that's an entrepreneur, you dictate all of it. And people, this is the craziest thing. People will work 60 hours for somebody else, right? Because you were doing that.

But will not work 60 hours for themselves. Yes. This is what I tell my nurse practitioners in my program. I'm like, we have the skills, you have the degrees, you do not need to get another certification. You're already seeing patients for this clinic that you don't own. you're working for somebody else. Yeah. Why not build something that's yours

and you're working your 40, 50 hours in your practice and there's no cap in your income. You want to see 100 patients in that month. You can. You want to see 50, you can. Yeah. There's no cap. If you're working for somebody, it's going to be a cap. Absolutely. And it's going to be, you're going to split it.

You know, they're taking the sum off the top. When you go into business for yourself, you have complete control. And I think a lot of people don't really understand that because they're scared. They've been wired to believe, you know, oh, I'm going to stick to salary, it's safe. But in reality, if you take that full plunge and you go 100% all in, then you can control what you're making and bringing in 100%.

So now you go, okay, so now you decide you're taking this big step. You're going to be this entrepreneur and you open up your own practice. So let's talk about the practice that you did. So it's after COVID or during COVID. Yeah, during COVID. And I'm like, okay, I need to do something different. and I initially had a contract. So I was an independent contractor for one big telemedicine

company and I was seeing their patients. And I'm like, oh, this is something, you know, I can do. So I research, research, and I decided to open up my clinic. Originally, it was like a woman's health urgent care type clinic because as a nurse practitioner, I worked in women's health initially. And I'm like, you know, even though I'm family certified, this is, my niche. I love women's health, so that's where my practice started. But fast forward about 2022, the whole Ozzyopic boom came. Got to love Ozzyk. I love GLPs. I do too.

I love them. Don't even be ashamed. I'm not even ashamed. I like the GLPs. I do that. We do that. We click me. Don't care. So that boom came and my current patients, they were like, well, hey, do you prescribe that? I'm like, no, but I can. So, you know, I did the research. and I had got another contract that was actually prescribing the GOP ones. And I'm like, okay, well, I can do this in, you know, in my practice. So I looked up the protocols, treatment protocols, and I started providing that service in my practice. And that just skyrocketed because everybody loves to feel good, look good, and it works.

It's not only just about losing weight. People have stopped their blood pressure medications, they stopped taking their cholesterol medications. They feel good and look good. Yeah, I'm all for it. I did it. I started it, and then I went back a year later, did my blood work, and my blood work was much better, despite, like, all the, everything that people are saying, I mean, everything

was a lot better, all of it. So now you do, so now you have the weight management side. Yes. Okay. And now, I know you also, part of your practices, you are teaching other nurses how to become entrepreneurial instead of falling victim to contracts or hospitals, and you teach them from start to finish. So they join your program.

Yes. So they join my program and they can come in two pads. So me personally, I still do the 1099 contracts with the bigger telemedicine companies. And then I have my virtual practice. So there are things going on. So you got the weight, let's talk about it. So you got the weight loss management system, GLP, which we can talk about after.

So you can hook your girl up. Then you also have on top of that the telemedicine, so where you consult also. Yes. Okay. And now you also have, on the third thing you're doing is any nurse that comes in and wants to start their own deal, you show them how to do it. Yes, yes. So the mentoring and coach and peace.

So they'll come in and if they want to just only do contracts to get used to seeing patients virtually because all of my MPs work from home. They don't see any patients in person. I haven't seen a patient in person since 2021. Nice. So I teach them how to get the contract. So how to get licensed. I'm licensed in 25 states.

I had one nurse practitioner. She came to me with five. She now has 30 plus states. Nice. license. So if she wants to travel, so somebody that would be like per diem, is that, that's, yeah, so if she wants to travel and then if she want to work from home, she can see patients in 30, 30 states. Yeah, phone, that's right. That's why you need to be it because I was like, I was trying to, but never mind, you answered it. So you would have different states, so you can now

be contracted in however many states. Yeah, yeah. So what is that, is that new licensing or you just pay to get into the state? Um, new licenses. So you'll just apply for that state's board of nursing and get your nurse practitioner license in that state so you'll be able to practice and see patients in that state virtually so more opportunity at bat so now i mean now you're opening up now you're really opening up so now you don't just have to do in florida like whatever let's just say it's saturated here you can now do it in virginia washington wherever which is amazing because it gives people opportunity and then like what i say to my salespeople is when you can't do it after eight o'clock here guess what you still have the west coast yes and i have a license in

Washington so they're like what three hours behind. There you go. So yes, you just open more doors for yourself and you increase access to care to individuals. Like my patients now, they love the virtual consultations. They don't have to go to the doctor. I'm in my office. They're in their living room getting care. So they love it. It's just convenient for myself and the patients. So if they don't want to now, what if they want to do something like on their own, their own practice type of thing? Can they do that as well? Yes. So I teach that as well. So they will come in from A to Z. So from LLC formation, I helped them with all the way to helping them market their practice.

So with the practice startup, you'll get your LLC. There's certain systems that you have to have in the background to get it started. I helped them build out their package. So if they want to provide weight loss services, I help them price accordingly. So your business is profitable. You really do everything from start to finish. So you can really be green right out of nursing school. someone comes to you says I want to do my own thing and then you take them from getting like

licensed the LLC right to I'm sure website to getting that going on right then registering with the states I mean you're really doing everything that's that's incredible yes how many nurses do you currently have in your program oh for 130 wow and you and you man it all yourself yes that's incredible how many nurses I wonder if you know this how many have you made a six figure income or more turned into six-figure earners or more? I would say about over 20 so far. I like went in on this program really hard this July and my MPs are getting results. I love that.

How do you feel when you make a difference? I feel like a proud mama. I do. When I get text messages, oh, I got this contract. Oh, my paycheck was 15K. Oh, I have 30 licenses. Like, I really feel proud. like what I'm doing, it works.

And I tell them if I can do it, you can do it as well. Yeah. I mean, I really, it's such a great, what you're doing is amazing. You are changing lives left and right and giving people, because I'm sure men can, there's men nurses. Yeah, yeah. So men and women can go through your program, and they have the opportunity to be their own entrepreneurial nurse,

which you never, you know, it's funny, you never really think about an entrepreneurial nurse. No, you don't. Right? Because I always think of like they're part of a practice or a hospital. I never really think that they can be on the, their own. I've never even thought about that. I know about the per diem, but the per diem you're contracted. Right, right. Yep, but you could be on your own. Certain states are full practice,

so we don't need a physician oversight. We don't need a collaborative physician to practice in certain states. And a lot of nurse practitioners, they don't know that. Maybe I'll become like a mobile nurse, like a mobile nurse that administers GLP. That's a good one, right? I'll just come to your office and just stick you with GLP. I'm giving ideas here, right? You can It would be the weight loss, the weight loss on wheels. Right, right. Oh, I'm doing good here. Amidst all my great ideas, I do have some questions, some more for you.

You know, as women, because I talked about it a little bit, as women, we already face challenges, right? And you are a beautiful black woman. So I want to talk, and let's not, like, let's not sugarcoded. People are still prejudice. They are. And you're gorgeous and you were young when you started this. What was that like? Was there a lot of adversity coming in where people still?

like, you know how people are. They're just so narrow-minded. Yes, definitely. Definitely because I'm young, black. They're like, oh, you're a doctor. You have to, your doctor, and how old are you? You don't even look old enough to have finished school. I'm like, but I am and I'm here to treat you.

You shouldn't look at, you know, my color or my age. I'm here to treat you. Like even when I used to work on the floor, right, I had a patient. She was of a different race. and she flat out says she don't want a black nurse. I'm like, well, we're here to take care of you. Like, you're in respiratory distress. You need us.

Yeah. You didn't want a black nurse. The doctor was black. The respiratory therapist was black. It was nowhere around it. Did she say, no, I don't want to. No, we had to take care of her. And we brought her back to live, CPR, and sent her to the ICU.

Did she ever apologize? No, never. It's so crazy. Again, like you think that we've come so far in society, you know, between gender and race, and we really have not at all. It's, it is, it blows my mind how people are so narrow-minded and so bigoted and filled with hate in this world. It's crazy.

It's really sad. Yeah. It's really sad. Because I, I see no color. I train my son. Like, don't, people are people. Yeah. They're human beings.

And they can have opinions and say what they want. I mean, that's. I'm not going to treat them any different. At the end of the day, we all bleed red. Right. I mean, that's what it is. You know, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. But I can imagine being in a field where you are faced with different ethnicities and genders. What about males? How has that been? Like working with other males? Oh, nine times out of ten. They probably love you.

They probably love. That's like a ridiculous. Now that I said it out loud, it's probably ridiculous. Because they're probably like, oh, yeah, nurse, come over. be, you know, near probably every man's greatest thing is me. Yes, on the floor is a lot of hanky-panky between the male and female nurses. I'm sure. Yes.

That's every industry, girl. That's every industry. I already told you I love GLPs. Love them. I, like, I swear by them. I'm not even embarrassed about them. But let's talk about something called, we're going to play a little game called fact or fluff. Are you ready?

Yes. All right. So, all right. So fact or fluff. Keto is the fastest way to lose fast safely, fat safely. fat safely. Fluff. Why?

Keto. So with the whole weight loss thing, you want to continue to do what you're doing to lose the weight. Keto, you're completely basically cutting out carbs. So the minute you start back eating carbs, you're going to blow back up. Yes. All right. Fluff on that. All right.

Intermitt fasting works for everyone? I want to say not for everyone. I do intermittent fasting. I do it too. I typically won't eat until after 12 and it's worked for me. Yeah. Just if it works for you, it's going to work. If it's not going to work for you, it's not going to work.

Yeah, and everybody's body composure is different. Like, I know for myself, the carb thing, I just can't intake carbs. Like, that's just, I can't. If I eat too many carbs, it's not going to be good. Cutting out all carbs is the key to long-term weight loss. No, it is not fluff. Yeah, I mean, you could have, you could definitely have a little bit of carbs. Yeah.

But the right carbs, right carbs, brown rice, like brown pasta. and just portion control. Yeah, complex carbs, yeah. I tell that to my kids all the time. Portion. Detox teas actually help burn fat. No, help you go to the bathroom. That's fluff.

You can out exercise a bad diet. Just losing weight you want to burn more calories than you're taking in. So I would say a fact, yeah, if you're burning more than you're taking in. Okay. Prescription weight loss meds are a shortcut, not a solution. No. Nope, it's not a shortcut. It's a solution to everything.

Obesity is a comorbidity. Obesity is a disease. Okay. Skipping breakfast slows down your metabolism. No. So that's a fluff. All right. Plant-based diets are better for weight loss than meat-based diets.

Factor fluff. Fluff. Fluff, why? Because even with the GLP ones, you want to. have that protein intake. Yeah. Cheat days ruin your progress. No, it does not.

You want to cheat. You need a cheat. You need to. You need to. You need to. You need to. Losing weight is just about eating less and moving more.

Fluff. It's a mental aspect to it too. Yeah. I think both 80% I do think it depends on your body too. Yeah. Do you agree with that? Yeah.

Depends on, do you think genetics have anything to do with that? Yes. It does. Yeah. Yes. Genetics and like if you pre-diabetes, diabetes, diabetes,

it's going to be harder for you to lose weight. If you have hormonal imbalances like PCOS, it is going to be harder for you to lose weight, but GLP ones will help with that. There you go. I love that you love GLP's like I do. So you have given such incredible advice today. So now we're going to get you to give us some one-liners,

some fuel for all the bosses out there. What's your go-to tool for balancing clinic, academy, and family life? Are you using like, do you use like a project management board? Like how are you? You have so many aspects of your business. So how are you keeping organized? Is there some kind of tool you're using? A calendar, Google Calendar.

Okay. And literally everything, if I have a dentist appointment, hair appointment, I put it down in my calendar. Because if it's not written in my calendar, it's not going to happen because I'm going to forget. Perfect. I love that. Perfect. So use a calendar. That's the biggest tip, just the Google Calendar.

Anything, do you color coordinate them? Do you give yourself reminders? Are you putting reminders in your phone? Yes, reminders in my phone, notes. My notes, I have a whole bunch of things. things in my notes. I write it down. I love it. So calendar number one. All right. OZempic,

okay, trend talk right now. OZMPIC Keto intermittent fasting. What's the smartest way people can approach these trends without getting lost in the hype? Book an appointment with a physician or nurse practitioner to see what best works for you

because JLP ones may not work for you depending on your family history or your personal history. Yeah. That's a good answer. So just depending on and you would go to, would you go to a doctor or nutritionist? Who would you consult? I'm initially a doctor and then that doctor can refer you to a nutritionist or a dietitian and then go from there.

Perfect. So we're going to switch it up a little bit, all right, and have a little fun because for me, my go-to music before I do anything, before I come to work, I'm listening to Snoop Dog. That is my go-to. Snoop is my guy. I love him so much, he gets me, like, fired up. So what would your typical playlist look like before you lead a master class before anything you do?

I am a huge Drake fan. You love Drake? I love Drake. I love you, Drake. I'm from down south, so I am like, I, well, Snoop is West Coast, but I love Snoop Dog, and I love some good down south booty shaky music. That is like my go to. If I want to be extra hype, little baby. Okay, all right, okay.

Okay. All right. And my last, last question for you is imagine a nurse is listening right now in their car before a night. shift, feeling completely defeated. What's the first smallest step they can take today to start rewriting their story? I will say, if you're sitting in your car, just think, close your eyes and think, why are you where you're at now, and why do you want to go to where you want to go, your journey, and just start.

You just have to start. Do it scared. Do it afraid. You just have to start. I love that. You just have to start. So it doesn't matter. you know, we are always so scared of what other people think or what lies ahead,

but sometimes you just have to just do it, right? Nike has the best slogan, just do it. Yes, just do it. I love that. And if people want to find you, where would they find you? And how would they get a hold of you? On Instagram, Dr. E, the underscore the virtual MP, same on TikTok. And I do host masterclasses every Thursday at the nursepreneur.com.

Good. There's a lot of places they can find you. And we'll have it. we'll have all the links for you too. So anything else you want to end with? Last piece of advice, anything? For my nurse practitioners, just start. Like, we have the licenses.

We went to school all these years. There's no way why we can't be a nurse and an entrepreneur. You can do it both. I do it both. I have my virtual practice, contract, and I do Airbnb as well. I invest in real estate. So you just have to find your purpose and your why. and then go for it.

There you have it. A true bill. Very well-rounded. Excellent. It was so nice having you today. Thank you for all your advice. Thank you for your courage. Thank you for everything that you're doing

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