BILFPOD - The Power of Persistence: Why Success Belongs to Those Who Never Quit

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

New Episode Alert – BILFPod x  Danielle CabralDanielle Cabral is more than just a TV personality—she’s an entrepreneur, a creator, and a powerhouse of ambition and authenticity. From reality television to building her own brand, Danielle has mastered the balance between hustle, creativity, and staying true to herself.Her story is one of resilience, bold moves, and never backing down from challenges. Danielle shares her unfiltered perspective on entrepreneurship, the importance of giving back, and how manifesting the life you want is more than just a mindset—it’s a lifestyle.In this episode:• The mindset behind building a brand and business in the spotlight• Why hustle and discipline matter more than luck• The challenges of navigating public perception and staying authentic• Danielle’s belief in giving back and lifting others as you rise• How manifestation and vision fuel her futureThis episode is a reminder that success isn’t about waiting for opportunities—it’s about creating them, owning your story, and showing up even when the odds are stacked against you.Catch the full episode now streaming on all platforms.Get Connected:Follow Danielle Cabral → @daniellecabralofficialFollow Mara Dorne → @maradorneFollow the Podcast → @bilfpod#BILFPod #MaraDorne #daniellecabral #bilfpod #BossEnergy #WomenInEntertainment #ActressLife #Leadership #BossIdLikeToFollow #Resilience #HustleAndHeart #DreamBigWorkHard #ManifestSuccess #EntrepreneurMindset #SuccessMindset #StayAuthentic #CreateTheLifeYouWant #BoldMoves #LevelUpYourLife #UnstoppableMindset #RealHousewives #RealityTVLife #HousewivesOfNJ #BravoTV #BehindTheScenes

Everything that has happened, I take and I fucking run with it to some other place to doing something else. And I make other things happen. And then you look back and you're like, thank God. Welcome back to the Bill Fod where authenticity Trump's authority and today. And today's guest is, I mean, first of all, you're like a bombshell. As soon as you walked in, I usually like to be the hottest bitch. And then you walk in, I'm like, oh, hell no. Wow, I will take that.

I'm like, what is going on here? We have Danielle Cabral. And she is just, I mean, you are such a little firecracker, super cute, entrepreneur, TV personality, a housewife as well. And you are just doing bad bitch moves. I love that. Welcome to the Bilt Pod. Thank you.

You too. Girl. Listen, I don't take on podcasts like, you know. I have to do my research. Your due diligence. Did I pass the task? I'm here. I drove 45 minutes into the city to come, got my makeup done, all right?

Looking like a true bill for here. Yes, yes. I cannot with you. But you didn't start on the housewives, right? That's not where your like reality. It started on MTV True Life, right? So let's talk about how, like where did this come? Did you always know you'd be a star?

Always. When I was a kid, I had video of like being two. And my mom was like, what would be a movie star? And I did the whole thing. I went to Cali, and you realize that so many people want to be in this industry. What sets you apart? Like, you know, am I going to meet Martin Scorsese and become an Academy Award-winning actress? Maybe, but I'll have a better chance being a reality stuff.

Yeah. And True Life happened. They were filming in my town, and I was like, let me just go talk about it. And they wound up casting me for the show. That's incredible. That is so, I mean, so there you start. You're on True Life. How many seasons did you do there?

It's one episode. So the series follows different stories. Oh, wait, I know that's the true life of what, but what was it? Yes, I have a Jersey Shorehouse. I have a Tourette's syndrome. Mine was on a Staten Island girl. This was before Jersey Shore. This is before the world knew about us.

I know true life, yeah. Mob wise. Yeah. So they were just like, who are these people? And where did they come from? Because we're just our own entity, I guess, Staten Islanders. That's so crazy. My girlfriend is from Staten Island.

I remember going there. They would say, like, it's the garbage dog. Is that what, like the garbage? Yeah, well, we have the dump, yes. So, okay, so what did you showcase on the true life? What were you show? I wanna get rid of my accent. I wanna be an actress and get rid of my accent,

which in hindsight was the reason why I got my career. So how do you, I have a question for you, how do you say W-A-T-E-R? Water. What's? Water. Water. Where are you from?

Florida. Oh, well, yeah. So it's water. Water. Okay, water. There you go. I love, I'm just kidding. I love it.

I love it. So there, okay, so there you say, start there. How many years ago did you do the true life? Oh my God. I was 20. I had a drink in a red cup because I was underage. So that was 2000, I want to say six. Then someone wanted to give me a show. So I moved to California, did that whole thing. Met my husband in Vegas. And I gave up that life for a minute just to try to have a normal life with my husband because I was like, I'm going to be chasing this dream. I could be working in a restaurant until I'm 60 or I have a beautiful man. let me go have a real life.

Oh. And then... So you lived in Vegas for a little bit? No, I was working the rehab party. Do you remember that party? I was selling tables at the rehab party. That's so funny. How long were you doing that? Five minutes.

Five minutes and I sucked at it and that was, that I met my husband at the rehab party in Vegas. So that was done. And then we filmed a home show. So I had an eight-episode series with me and my husband buying our house and flipping it into what it is now. that was HGTV. That was 10 years ago.

Wow. Yeah. And then we did a cooking show. I did a bunch of stuff. Keep going. I did not know. Yeah. I did a bunch of TV things.

Then COVID happened and social media hit. And I was like, oh, I could just talk in the camera. And from that, I got a call to audition for housewives. And when I got the call, it was like, hey, I got the show for you. You'd be great. I'm like, I'm not doing a freaking game show. I'm not doing another game show. And when she said housewives, I was like, yeah.

Okay, no. And I don't know. So, okay, you go on how. Did you know the other women? I knew to recent we've done some business with my company, Bougy kids. But I didn't know the other women, like personally. So you go on the show and was it an immediate fit? Like, I feel like you have to go on and like it has to like mesh.

You would think. Nothing in reality meshes at all. I thought I was going to go on and be like, hey, hey, everybody, I'm Danielle. Nice to meet you. We're going out at the best time. No. And did not go down like that. I know.

I saw you cut up. I saw you, like, literally get up and like curse somebody out. That was the second season. I had to put in the whole first year of craziness. So what was your experience like on your first season? You come in. You're the new girl. Were they nice to you?

No. Not really. Not, no. I said, I said, this hot bitch. Oh, my God. No, you would think. But no. It was a big lesson learned because I come from, I think, a world where it's like, girl, do you, sore?

Kind of like what this whole podcast is about. Like, I want to see you shine. Right. And I didn't realize that going on that show was, I'm going to find everything wrong with you. This is real shit. Like, it's not scripted. No, it is real. It is 1,000% well, when I say real, my reactions to things.

And what I experienced was authentic and real. some of the stuff that was brought up and talked about was fake. Right, but they like dug it up, like somebody dug it up to like, no, made it up. Made it up just, what, for ratings or like this was like just to get you going? For their own storyline. Made it up for their own rise of some sort. But here's the beauty of that. They all fall in the end.

Yes. The truth always comes down. Of course. Right? But going through it is very difficult. And in our world today, you say something. I say something on this podcast about you. It's out there.

Yes. You can't take it back. Even if you're like, did you help? That's not true. It's out there. It's out there. It doesn't really matter. Yep.

So how did you combat the lies? I let God handle it, to be honest with you. Did you, you didn't say anything back? You didn't retaliate. You have to tell me. I did. I retaliate. Yes.

Don't kill me. Don't hate me. No. I don't even know who anybody is. I like those conversations. Yeah, I had things twice when you said Martin Corsese. I was like, wait, what? But I know.

That's a whole different. All right. I do know. But I have, that's, like, Martin Scorsese. I know who he is. I'm just saying, like, that's like my level. Like, I just, you know, I'm working all the time. But anyways, I do know.

So, go ahead, let's go. Tell me, tell me, tell me. So, yes, I, in the moment when someone is saying something to me, there is no filter. Like, like, housewives, you have to be like, oh, really? You don't like me? Oh, well, too bad, because you're poor. And I don't come from a place like that. I'm like, what the, what you said?

You're about to fucking take the me. Yes, the earrings come off. Everything. give you a chance to even get one licking, but I can't do that. So how'd you hold back? I did that. Now I can't do that anymore. Did, you got up and you got, you were like, well, it was self-defense. She came out of me first.

Wait, I got to hear, you have to tell me a story. She, one of the women on that show were saying something about me that wasn't true. And I was just like, what? And we were in each other's faces and I was like, you're dirty. I see you. And she pushed me. You know the saying, someone yokes you to New York saying you yoke. She pushed me so hard. And that really was a gift because when you push me first, that gives me a reason. Oh, yeah, that's the way you're hot.

Now I'm not hitting first and getting, you know, in trouble. Start the fight. So it was reaction. I reacted. I have to see this. I'm going to go look. Honest to God, if you don't watch a housewives, that's the one scene in all of the years that I would watch.

I'm going to go watch it. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. So now you have this thing. Now, did you, whoever this was with, did you make up with like it still? No. Still not. Oh, God, no.

And let me tell you something. Oh, God handled that broad like you would not believe. Oh, my God. Lights out. Career done. So no way. This is like, and I saw, I did see the finale. I was, my girlfriend made me watch it that you guys, or not, I wanted to watch it,

but you guys go to like the steakhouse. Yes. And you guys are in two separate rooms. Yeah. Oh, that was the reunion. The reunion. You couldn't even have a reunion. We had a.

Literally, like you can, like if they were here right now, whoever it is, you don't, you just couldn't be in the same room. I could have, but they didn't want us to be in the same room. I had no problem. I would think they'd want it just for ratings. You would think, but it was so bad. It was so bad. It was that bad for you.

It was really bad. Yeah, and I mean, look, I want the one thing I want you to highlight is, like, people do think it is, like, completely scripted. It's not real. Like, you walk away from there, and you guys are all good friends, but it's not, like, this is real shit. I suffered for a really long time until the show aired, until the truth came out and the show aired. So why did you want to do? do a season two. That was season two. Okay, so are you going to do another one? I think the ties are changing and I really hope to God we bring some other dynamic women on the show that we can have

fun and not want to come for each other to juggler, like not ruin my name, my brand, my kids' lives, you know, like it's a television show at the end of the day. How do you keep your kids separate? How old are your kids? My son's 10, my daughter's seven, and they know all about her, and they know what kind of piece of shit she is. And I don't have... How do you keep it separate, though? Like, as far as... Do they, like, see each other in town?

No, we're not the same town. No, okay. They all live about 45 minutes away from me. So what about the kids at school? Do they ever say anything to your kids? It's cool right now at their age. Yeah, you're right. They're not teenagers.

Your mom's about it, bitch. Yes. So it's, you're the, your mom's on TV. You know, it's cool for them. I know it will change, but hopefully when it does, they'll be in it a few years to know. Yeah, I could just see my daughter being like, oh, you're such an embarrassment.

Yes. What are you doing? nobody even does that. You're so, I could just hear it. But yeah, you're right. They go to school. They're probably like, yeah. And we get things.

Like, we get to go on the front of the lines at amusement parks because the parks invite us. People send makeup for my seven-year-old daughter. She loves that. I love that for her. So there's perks to being on TV. Yeah, but I'm sure there's a downside. Is there ever?

But I feel like just from your aura and your energy, like you're super confident, but I'm sure there's times where people say something to you. And you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, does it hurt? Or you're just like, No, you're human. It does hurt. What hurts the most is not about like what it said about me,

but it's that people could say these things. Not even know you. Yeah. So they just kind of form their own opinion. They formulate this whole like whatever, this whole narrative that they've created. Right. And then they publish this. Do they harass you? Like Margot was telling me some lady like like, like hits her up all the time, like messenger and tells her about herself daily. Do you have people like this? Yeah. Yeah, you got to block and move on. But it's the mean things, the mean comments, body shaming and that stuff that really... From other women, I'm sure, too, which is even worse. They're the worst. Women, God worshipers, teachers. I just put a teacher on blast

because she made fun of my husband's body and one made fun of my children's ears. Wait, what? Yeah. A teacher. Oh, I hope you... I got in touch with her whole school district. I don't play. No, that's wrong. Who does that? You have the balls to do that, so do I. Oh, get it, girl. And I got a big of black for me. I love you already. I love... Hey! Yes, tell... So, girl, girl, that's how... tell them what happens when you have a big platform all your should be out there yeah don't I you're just like me when it comes to my kids like don't fuck with my kids are you that mom yes

oh my god a thousand percent oh I'm the mom that'll meet you on the playground I know I always go what's the mother's name that is my that's my catchphrase who's the mother I cannot oh my what's tell me what your tagline is on the show I know you guys like I'll have like a tag like you what's your one yeah the first one was um uh oh what is it I'd rather be boogey than basic There was another line in front of that too The second one oh my god I don't remember what the second one Wow that's so crazy

Do you get to make your own tagline? I tried to but my was physical and they wouldn't take it But they make it for you. So if you can do it so what would your tagline be right now? Oh God I don't know Don't mess with me because I'll cut your kneecaps off I think that was my second one And they're like no Danielle

This is not that kind of show So see I'm not allowed to do it anymore So one thing about the housewives, like, typically, and I said this to March 2, and you think this, even just talking, that you think of like just a housewife that just kind of sits around and it's like, oh, but you have a business. Yeah, that was the old days. I think that's changed a little bit. You have a business. You're like a real build. Yes.

So talk about your business a little bit. Obviously fashion. You're very fashion for it. You look beautiful. Gorge, gorge. You know no one says that about me? Why, I think you look great. Thank you.

This is definitely something I would wear. I appreciate that. You have to be like dripping in thousands of. dollars to be in my type of show or else you're like shit you know I look hello look at I know I mean I like the boot I don't give a shit that it's April I don't care I like the boots um my business so bougie kids I launched um six years ago seven years ago way before housewives yeah so I dressed my kids over the top and I started a little clothing business at first I wasn't making the clothes I was like a little blueingdale's for kids yeah um and then I had opportunities

from housewives where I was able to manufacture the clothes so I did a runway show in New York fashion week and now I have a really great concept that I'm trying to get into the targets and like the marshals that's my real goal I love that so everybody can shop there everybody and who doesn't love a good marshals run I don't care how much money I make I still love marshals those are my people that's my brand that's that's what I represent you know what I mean I'm not going to go and be like oh name of market is 1700 for a t-shirt no I love that's be realistic well I mean listen the kids grow out of it I've I've definitely been that mom that used to buy her kid when she was little and juicy was super cute. I brought it,

but then you realize the kids grow out of it in three months and then was. So you have like a very affordable but like trendy line for kids. Yes. And that's the goal. But it is not a multi-million dollar business. It is something that I work at every single day. And I am literally on LinkedIn every day looking for the names of the people to email. So it's not an overnight success when you do like a big television show. And regardless that you have a huge platform, you're still putting in the work. A hundred percent. And never stop. Nope, never stops. I think that's a strong misconception too.

They're probably like, oh, you have this, you know, you're so lucky in life, you have this great platform and you don't have to work, it's just handed to you, but that's not the truth. Some of them do. Trust me. We did BravoCon was a big expo for all the Bravo celebrities. Yes, I've heard of BravoCon. And I had a booth.

I mean, my husband were the only two talent, like setting up our boots and actually going seven hours before the event in sweats. No shame. Nobody else. Actually one other, Brock and Sheena from Van der Pras. hump rules, I saw that too. But it makes you humble and you never forget. Like I feel, tell me if you feel like this, I feel like no matter how much money I've made,

I'm still that down south, like shake your booty, eat Taco Bell, like that's never going to change. You have your main humble. Because you worked for it. No one gave it to you. So you remember the hustle. Thank you. That's what it is.

It's all about the hustle. It's your inner hustle that always, and then you're always scared that you can go back to it and you don't want that. Well, I had to take medication because of that because that's a bad struggle. Once you start making money and then you see it leave the bank account, you freak out. I know this. I know that feeling. Oh, I know it very well.

Yeah. Way too well. Like, as soon as you see it going down, then you're like, what? When is, all right, let's go. Hustle. Who am I calling? Where am I going? What deal am I breaking right now?

It's bad when you... It is bad. You want to fight or flight. So how'd you, like, what do you do? What is some advice? Because it's funny that you say that because I know exactly what that feels. Like, you're looking at the numbers and you're like, oh, shit, I made, like, I have money. And then all of a sudden you see it dropping because people think when you're up, you stay up.

That's not true. If you could stay up, great. But it doesn't, you have to go down a little bit. So what'd you do? When you're in my line of work, I don't have a set paycheck that comes every week. Like my husband, he's corporate, he gets his, well, not corporate, but he gets his paycheck. You just have to deal with the feelings, give yourself 24 hours, get up and move on and figure out how to make the next dollar. That's the truth.

And it really, I think it eats my insides alive, but it also gives me a fire that I don't think a lot of people that don't understand that have. Yes. You know? And I'm always going to make money. One way or another, I'll always find a way. Speak it. Just manifest it, right? Manifest it.

I'm big on manifesting. Me too. I like to manifest what's going to happen next. I get worried. Like, don't misconstru it. I get worried. I definitely have doubt, self-doubt, but I bet on myself every single time. Yep.

And I know if everything was taken away tomorrow, I'd be okay. Yes. I would land on my two feet. I'd be okay. Yes. And that's the feeling you have to go back on when you're feeling like you're going to jump out of a window. Yeah. Is that we won't fail, you know?

Like, duh, getting there, but we won't fail. Oh, yeah. We're going to look good getting there too. That's important too. We're going to look good. Yes. Might fail. Maybe, but no, we're not falling.

We're not falling completely flat. Might stumble a little bit, but we're not failing. I agree with that. I love that. I love your energy. Are you always like this? I try to be. For your kids?

Yeah. Oh, yeah, 100%. Do you think it's important to stay like this and stay like upbeat and keep going and very entrepreneurial because your kids are watching? Yes. And do good. We do a lot of good things like charity, give back, events. Can we talk about that?

For a second, how important that is. It is. I know a quote that says, you know, who much is given, much is expected and required. And I believe in that. I believe in giving back and any opportunity that I can give back. And it doesn't necessarily have to be with money. If you don't have money, you can give back time.

You know, you can give back an ear, just a lending ear, a shoulder to cry on. But I think it's so important. And a lot of people do not believe in this concept. No. They just want to take and take and take. Yes. And I think when you're on a show like the Housewives, people automatically assume like, oh, just write me a check.

I can't just write a check. I'm not, I'm a new housewife, you know, I'm getting there. But like, I sometimes throw full-blown events, and that's so much more work than writing a check. Yes. You know, like the little events that raise a couple of thousand dollars for someone to get medical treatment sometimes speaks louder than you would think like writing a big check, but that's the kind of work that I like to do.

I think it's easy to write a check. So easy to write a check. I've done it. I've written checks, but it's more meaningful. and it goes a lot farther and we have children and it's important for our children to see that giving back is a very big part of what you should be doing. Yep. And without giving back then what are you doing? Right.

You know, what are you doing? Right. So you have a daughter. And a son. And a son. But let's talk, because I have a daughter. I have a 17 year old. Let's talk a little bit about our daughters.

Oh. Is her daughter like you? Oh, she's like me in a seven year old body. My daughter too. No, I love it. I love it. I love. She's having.

My daughter's 17. Okay. So you're alive and breathing. So you made it through. I made it. I made it. I'm just starting. Oh, girl. I'm just going to say it for you right now. I know. But it gets better. Are you close with your mom? Yeah. That's what'll happen. Yeah, but my daughter is, who she's going to take, she's going to either change the world or be a leader of a gang chain, a chain gang one day. I don't know. I can't. No, she's watching her mom. And I'm telling, it'll come, it'll definitely come back around and you'll see she's going to thrive. How I know that. She's just going to kill me in the process. More kids or no more. How? What? You see with my legs right now? How they like this? I'm like this every day in my house.

I go, get away. I got a chastity belt on with a lock. Oh my God, I cannot. Don't even come near me. Yeah, no more kids for me either. I don't. I'm too old. I'm having any more kids. Look at us. How long does it take you to get you? Stop, a long time. I'm not too vain. I'm too big. I'm too big. I'm too big. I'm too big. Oh, girl, me too. Yeah, me too. No, uh, mm-hmm. Move on, next question. No, all right, next question. How do you decide which opportunities align with your long-term vision and which ones do you turn down? Because you said you don't do every podcast. So what are you doing that?

Like, you have to when you're building a brand. You can't do everything. Right. Anything that will pigeonhole me into being a housewife forever, I do not do. Something that I love to create. I want to be an executive producer on shows and not necessarily star in them. I want to be the person making them. So I don't always want to do the things that put me in front of the camera.

I want to do meaningful things. Great TV. Win Emmys one day. And maybe an Academy Award. Beyond Broadway. Like I want to do these really exceptional things that I took a reality job to now when a knock on the door, they're like, oh, Danielle, instead of who are you? I love it.

So you're using it to elevate your platform. A thousand percent. Yeah, you don't want to be known as a, which is interesting. So you don't want to be known as Danielle the housewife. No. No, you don't. No, I don't. So what about the women?

Are you close with the women there? Are there some that you're really close with? Yeah. Some of them are like your actual friends that you hang out with? Yeah. I was just with Margaret, like last week. The second season I was on really opened my eyes to who these women were in real life and not just in front of the camera.

And I'm at such a great place with a lot of them now. And we really champion each other. I have one that's on the show that's been on the show for a long time, just launched a business. Made half a million dollars in like five months. And I'm like, you know, I'm always a person that's like, yes. Now, teach me everything you know. Instead of like her. Like I want to learn from you, girl.

Yeah, of course. You know? Why the hell would you ever do that to somebody? If somebody's successful, what do you want to do? You want to emulate who's doing it. Yes. Why would you want to? Because people are jealous.

They don't know how to get there and they want to, you know, the maloicaia. In Italian, we call the maloicaa. The evil eye. Of course I know what it is. So that's why I wear red everywhere. Oh, I have the evil eye. Really big, like the tramp stamp. It was cool.

Don't, don't judge. But I have a huge tramp stamp back here of the evil eye. It looks like a pineapple. You know what? I could probably change my butterfly into an evil eye. There you go. Hi, I got a tramp stamp too. Yeah, mine is, I just need to redo my got a whole tramp thing going on.

Listen, I thought it was cool then, but it's not that cool now. Same. Now it's just, oh, now it's not a good situation. It just looks really bizarre. So, okay, you are positive. you have a lot of energy. And I know, I just know because I'm a mom too and I'm a hustler, that every day is not always a good day.

So for me, like my mantra is like, bitch, you got this. Like there are times when I'm literally looking in the mirror. I'm like, oh, bitch you, what's your mantra? My mantra. So I have very dark days a lot. But like I said, I give myself one day or two days tops to go through it. Grace. Yeah.

And then get right back up and hustle. There's no other way. There's no other option for me. There's no other option of failure. And everything in my life has happened for a reason. So I have to trust that process. That's a hard trust. If you're controlling, that's very hard.

It's something that I've learned that you have, look, I'm trying to take my own advice on it. I tell people the same thing. Everything in life happens for a reason. Yeah, it does. And it sounds so hokey, but the universe works in a very mysterious way. And it's all about timing and the people that you meet.

And this is something when I close out my sales, meetings I say this it's you are in this very room at this very moment at this very time with these very people and I say it all the time because I believe it nothing in life is a coincidence right it happens because it's supposed to happen that way it's just what are you gonna take from it exactly and everything that has happened I take and I falkin run with it to some other place to doing something else and I make other things happen and then you look back and you're like thank God that happened right

At first you're like, oh, shit. And then you look back and you're like now, or now it makes sense why that happened. Yes. Like what's the biggest lesson you've learned from being on the Housewives? Not everybody deserves all of you. I've learned that the hard way

because I'm always like giving you all of me in the beginning and then people have hurt me really badly. And I'm like, oh, why do I give them that chance to know me like that? Or why do I do right by them? And it's sometimes you have to separate your business deals from being like buddy buddy with everybody because not everybody wants you to win.

No, they don't. So when is it time? Like where do you just kind of draw the line? I feel it out now. I know the feeling now. Like when is enough enough I should ask? Like when is it like you're finally like fuck it? Like I'm done.

Well, I also, I say no to a lot of things now that don't serve me. If it doesn't serve me and I'm not going to grow from it or not benefit and I'm doing something just to like grow somewhat. Like I'm like, no, you know, my time taking my daughter to soccer is a little bit more important for me now. You know, and I can say things like that. Yes. But I also feel people's energy. I can feel them now and I'm not so naive.

Oh, yes. I don't need people. I'm like you could, I will help you, but like I don't need you anymore. Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think that you need people in life. You want them. That's a big difference when you don't feel co-dependent on people like my success is not dependent on anyone else but me Yeah and a lot of times with women we are dependent on a man or whatever

But the way that I was brought up I was brought up by a single mom is that the one thing she instilled in me is you don't rely on anybody but yourself To get you where you need to go yeah because nothing in life is promised to you 100% and that's what I mean I live my life like that if you're in my life it's because I want you there now I wasn't always like this right this is a very new this is somebody once asked me they said to me the amount of times that you've been fucked over and oh girl I've been fucked over like really bad how do you keep going like how do you keep you know so like getting involved with people and I'm in a people-oriented business and my answer to that is that the amount of times that the good has outweighed the bad just makes it worth it yeah it's just knowing when to like cut it when it's not good yeah you know

that and that's exactly how I look at being on a show like this where you go online and people say these things about you and then in real life they're like you're awesome you helped me with blah, blah, blah. And in those moments, you're like, okay, this is why I'm doing it. This is, this is the good. You know, and the good, definitely outweighs the bad. Do you think the, I'm not going to say, it's not a character because it's you, but the person that is portrayed on the housewife, is that how you really are day to day? Thousand percent. All the time. Authent. There is no bad at it. I will say that right now. Anybody that says a bad at it, no, you're just a bad person. And that's who I am through and through.

no matter what and that's a hard look that's hard to remain humble and authentic so like the separation so you're just the same person there I mean you don't need to kind of turn it on and turn it off because you're just authentic I'm very good at reality TV being reality being reality and just being myself so what's next for you like right now you have this reality TV like genre under your belt like you see how I smile why do you say I know I'm like what's next let's talk about it can you give me like a little clue like give me just a little bit yeah there's a lot there's like like it's like this right now getting all together all the stuff yeah beaking with the businesses um bougie kids i do really amazing events um just a lot of great stuff my daughter's really great in acting like she's the meal

ticket like just is a lot of great things going on in my family that i'm proud of you know