Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 01-03-25_FRIDAY_6AM

Episode Date: January 4, 2025

Morning news, the problem with saaaaaafety, DC Swamp update with Rick Manning...the importance of getting Johnson back in as Speaker.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. Pardon me, I didn't do my appropriate morning cough before coming on. Sometimes you don't know, you turn the microphone on and realize, you sound like your great-grandfather after smoking a carton of camels, you know, that sort of thing. And, you know, everybody used to do that back when I was a kid.

You'd smoke in the house. Oh, my goodness. Smoking in the house. We survived. We survived somehow. Just seemed to work out that way. But anyway, I'm glad we're not smoking in houses right now,

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And let's see. The latest breaking news. This news just broke about three minutes ago. Eh, four or five minutes ago, maybe. Maybe even ten. But this is from the United States of somebody's afraid that somebody is having a good time somewhere. It has to be afraid of everything, right? That's the way things are these days. This is from the Surgeons General, Surgeon General, U.S. Surgeon General, that big risk of cancer increasing with alcohol use.

Consuming alcohol increasing the risk of developing at least seven types of cancer. They're not exactly specific on all of their infographics because what they did is that they put out lots of pretty pictures that you can put on websites, i guess because people don't read any longer that they're saying that alcohol breaking down into acetyl hide which damages dna induces oxidative stress alters levels of multiple hormones it leads to greater absorption of carcinogens so now they're reconsidering even moderate drinking, I guess. And I'm not sure what they consider moderate drinking. I'm going to try to find out more about this. But, yep, the story here, alcohol increases throat, voice box, esophagus, mouth,

breast in women, liver cancer, and colon and rectum. So everything about alcohol is bad very bad very very bad and yet uh my gosh we've been drinking alcohol forever since someone learned to ferment something but yeah that's the latest that's coming from the surgeon general's office and we'll be hearing more about that of course on the other hand what is the definition of a moderate use of alcohol because i know that when i've gone to the to the doctor for a checkup you know doing those sort of things and they'd say well do you uh do you use alcohol moderately and i would say uh okay well what's well you know one or two drinks a day one or two drinks a day

you know i'm lucky to be to have one or two drinks every couple of months or so you know, one or two drinks a day. One or two drinks a day? I'm lucky to be able to have one or two drinks every couple of months or so. You know, that's kind of the way I am. I just don't drink that much. Of course, I'm a lightweight. It's just horrible. I don't know about you. But I've never quite got into the one or two drinks a day kind of habit. So I guess I don't have to worry.

I just have lots of other stress, right? Because say what you will, the alcohol is a great stress reducer in many ways. But that is the latest. That is the latest. So you have alcohol causing cancer there that's just breaking out of the New York Times and the Surgeon General's office. And then the Epoch Times now saying that fructose may drive cancer growth. This is an animal story. A sweetener known as fructose may drive cancer growth. This is an animal story. A sweetener known as fructose, that's fruit sugar, of course,

may give cancer tumors a boost, and researchers advising that avoiding it may be one way for people living with cancer can fight the disease. New study from Western Washington University, or Washington University in St. Louis, rather, that dietary fructose promotes tumor growth in animal models of melanoma, breast cancer, and cervical cancer. So everything kills us.

You know, this was something that was just released this week in Nature. Now, where I think you have to be careful when you see these kind of studies, they talk about fructose. Most of us don't really have a lot of fructose in our diet you know what we do have in our diet though is high fructose corn syrup because we've decided it's morally superior to not pay for actual sugar and so we got to pay off the the Iowa corn farmers and put ethanol in the tank from corn and then also take corn and everything's corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup. That's really the bad stuff from what I'm understanding. Now, fructose, fruit sugar, from other studies that I've read, if you actually eat it in fruit, in other words, instead of having orange juice, you have orange juice,

that's fructose, and that's bad for you. Orange juice doesn't necessarily help, spikes the blood sugar, that kind of thing. But if you eat the orange, you have the fructose mixed with the fiber of the fruit, and it ends up being much better for you. Much less of a problem because of the fiber and the digestion. So, in other words, don't do the juices. Do the actual fruits themselves, and it may be a little bit better. And try to get rid of high fructose corn syrup.

You know how hard that is, though? Have you noticed in the United States of America that everything has to be sweet? Everything, especially when you go out to eat something, everything has to be free. Everything has to be sweet. And I noticed that the other day, having a fast food hamburger. I've mentioned this before. And the bun is sweet wait a minute we have to have a sweet bun for a savory hamburger really everything has to taste like a king's hawaiian bun actually they some chains i think use king hawaiian buns you know have you noticed how fat that the hawaiians are for the most part?

All those Samoan-type things eating all the Spam and the King Hawaiian buns? I'm just saying. All right. So we got that. Fructose will kill you. Alcohol will kill you. All right. Fine.

Biggest local story that we have right now, just one cop story really to talk about klamath falls police arrested a woman after she allegedly shot her boyfriend and the victim lied to police about what really happened so we have 48 year old natalie rising arrested for attempted murder first degree assault on lawful use of a weapon that one from uh our news partner kobi5 thank you very much that's about the biggest story. Really. That's the way that goes. As far as the national crime story, it's like everything's all different now. It's like what happened to the Tesla. The Tesla blow up in Las Vegas.

Not connected. Not connected with what happened in New Orleans. And the New Orleans guy worked alone. At first they thought that they were, you know, looking for these accomplices planting the bombs, the explosive devices, and now they have video. And somehow it feels weird, but, you know, I got to tell you,

you almost do have to wait about two or three days before you get some semblance about what really might have happened but i don't know um about this army special forces guy who was a trump supporter yet cheating on his wife supposedly and going through the divorce it wasn't a good thing he decides to commit suicide in a tesla at the trump hotel and yet he's a Trump supporter. Something doesn't feel right about this. But at least we know with the New Orleans situation, New Orleans situation, we now know that we don't have a problem with radical Islam. That's okay. Don't go back to sleep, little sheeple. It's going to be okay.

No problem with radical Islam, even though the mosques are shutting up and not talking to the FBI. Nothing to see here move along because that would be insensitive and yet something tells me that if we had christians mowing down uh you know crowds like this uh routinely that there would be a little more love paid attention to us just saying all right uh we can talk about things like that and other things on your mind too 770-563-377-OKMED you know hey we're uh working so hard to uh to not call a terrorism at first it just something doesn't something still doesn't feel right i still can't help but feel that everything that we're doing in the news cycle every day and i know

it's not conspiracy theory thursday but every day feel kind of feels like in the news cycle every day, and I know it's not Conspiracy Theory Thursday, but every day kind of feels like one. It's like every day is an MKUltra mind experience. Do you ever get that feeling that everything in the news, I know that this is why I'll never be a national talk show host because you can't talk this way on a national talk show host. You're supposed to be like Hugh Hewitt and talk about what the Washington Post says, okay? If it's in the Washington Post, then it's okay.

But every time I watch the news, okay, Army Special Forces guy goes out and does the most complex, insane suicide ever. What, to make a statement? You're a Trump supporter and everything else and you blow up your your tesla that you also got on the on the same app that the new orleans guy got his rental truck which by the way was another electric truck that was the ford f-150 lightning remember that one well if you want to mow down a lot of people that's the one to do i think it weighs about four tons because it's filled with batteries just amazingly uh it just feels like an MKUltra kind of government,

mind-controlled experiment. And I don't even know if it's gone awry. Just about keeping people a little bit unbalanced. But I guess we can go back to sleep now because it was just one crazy army guy and one crazy person. Well, he wasn't crazy. He was just a member of the religion of peace

and there's nothing that can be said about that because, you know, multicultural society. So go back to sleep, I guess. It's 20 minutes after six. You're on the Bill Myers Show show if you want to join in any thoughts on your mind today we've got a little time for that also rick manning will join me for the dc swamp update after the 6 30 news mr outdoors also uh joining me and paul caminar caminar is a constitutional expert national senator national center rather for policy research expert, National Center for Policy Research. And we're going to talk about this deal of pardoning the January 6 prisoners.

What could be done about that? What's that process? I've had a couple of days focusing on that. Yesterday had Cynthia from the Patriot Group talking about that. I think this is a really big deal, and we'll see what happens, because, of course, Monday is the anniversary of january 6th so speaking of which i have a story in here about uh liz cheney oh yeah here we go yeah speaking of january 6th biden gives liz cheney presidential citizens medal for her work on the january 6th committee. Isn't that sweet?

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I wondered where we were going to see this story. Remember when Sherry's closed a few weeks ago? It was a month or two back that it closed, right? And this was very sad in many ways because Sherry had been a Northwest institution for a while, but it had also been declining for a while. I think I remember the last time I went to a Sherry's, you know, it was several years ago.

And, you know, when you see the restaurant not being quite so clean and the cushions have rips and tears in them in the booths and they haven't really been repaired, or they just have a little bit of duct tape over them. You know, that kind of look. And you realize that a company is not doing all that well, right? And it's very sad to see that. It was kind of a slow death.

But KGW Television now reporting that Sherry's Restaurants, what's left of it, owes millions of dollars to landlords around the state. This is according to court filings. Yeah, but they closed back in October, it says here. Yeah, they closed in October after facing mounting financial problems and unpaid bills. And so 15 different landlord companies across the state have now filed lawsuits against Sherry's for failing to pay rent before the chain closed its doors. So there we go.

$4 million. Of course, I don't know, given that the seats weren't being repaired and other things weren't getting done, I don't know if there are a lot of assets there. But we'll end up seeing where that ends up going. But, you know, it's very sad to see that sort of thing going on when you know a business is starting to to circle the drain although i must say that the worst holiday meal i ever had in my life was the thanksgiving meal at sherry's and it was back in like 2001 thanksgiving we just moved back to the uh to

the rogue valley from uh leaving that carnage of having lived in fargo for a couple of years i think i mentioned that then and so i went there for Thanksgiving, and it was like the worst turkey and canned gravy. It was just bad. The Diner 62 turkey open-faced sandwich and everything they sell was 1,000 times better. It was 1,000 times better than what that was. All right? I'll tell you. All right.

What else is going on this morning? Reports indicate the United States is not prepared to protect citizens against new method of terrorism. This isn't just the news. A year before twin New Year's Day incidents in New Orleans and Las Vegas darkened the start of 2025, the Department of Homeland Security commissioned a study that warned America was facing a new era of terrorism and was ill-prepared to protect its citizens from that threat. Attacks on soft targets in crowded places, STs-CPs, represents a significant challenge in the 2023 security environment. This is from the RAND Corporation.

You want to talk about a plugged in to the government money train. The RAND Corporation's Homeland Security Operational Analysis Center reported to the agency, urging a significant change in posture for a security apparatus that spent two decades hardening the defenses against the sort of foreign-inspired and spectacular attacks that al-Qaeda pulled off on September 11th of 2001. Rather than flying planes into hardened security targets of major institutions like the Pentagon, yeah sure, or a World Trade Center towers, a growing number of foreign-inspired or domestic-grown terrorists and mass shooters have deployed low-level tactics. Vehicles, improvised explosives, devices, and guns on targets with less security, but that still house large numbers of potential human victims.

The report noted, And New Orleans officials were warned in 2019 that Bourbon Street was vulnerable to terrorist attack by vehicle, saying the attack was highly possible and recommended that improvements be made immediately. Can we all be honest with ourselves, though, about all this talk about what could have been done about Bourbon Street and all the rest of it? You can have a perfectly safe society. All you have to do is have a super police state. Can you agree with me on that? If you want a perfectly safe society, nothing bad ever happens to you. You can go about stupidly staring at your phone for the rest of your natural life until

the high fructose corn syrup and alcohol does you in, according to those latest headlines, right? That kind of thing. All you have to do is just turn it into a total lockdown society. That's all you have to do. Worse than Singapore or something like that. Life is inherently risky. Life also means, frankly, not doing stupid stuff. it's, I mean, I don't want to sound like I'm blaming the victim, but anybody out partying on Bourbon Street,

3.30 in the morning on New Year's Day, in some cases, anything that happens at 3.30 in the morning is not usually good in many places. That doesn't excuse whack job uh you know coming out of the mosque and then going and mowing people down i'm not trying to excuse this but i'm just saying that yeah you can have a a totally neutered problem i mean you just just have police everywhere in a total police state. Make everything the TSA, right? Are you willing to do that?

Or are you willing maybe just to pay attention a little bit more? And maybe carry concealed and do various other things so that maybe when the occasional dirtbag shows up, you can do something about it. Oh, they don't want us. They want us to have learned. They don't want us doing that, right? They want us to have learned they don't want us doing that right they want us to have learned helplessness i mean this kind of story just kind of make my teeth hurt because it's always about the government you know the government has been more we in the military industrial terrorism complex that make billions of dollars a year from the teat of the

or millions of dollars i should say from the from the teat of taxpayers that are forced to pay for our stuff yeah we've come out and said that it's just not safe enough. Things aren't safe enough, and you can be safe enough. Everything about being safe enough means that you have to have the total, total surveillance, total surveillance, total lockdown, and then you'll be perfectly safe. And then you're no longer a free individual liberty and freedom is inherently risky and i swear there's a lot of americans that

don't seem to grasp that or are willing just to give it all up these days and i am just praying that um that president trump going into office is not the perfect time then to bring in the police state because, well, it's President Trump and then the Republicans go to sleep on civil liberty. I pray that we don't have that kind of situation, and I hope you do too. We have to be on guard because, boy, they want it. They want everything. They want everything.

They want absolutely everything, in my opinion. Everything from surveilling your license plates with those flock cameras to predictive programming, fusion centers. It's still all there.

It's still all there. And yet we were told that we were going to keep you safe from the Muslim hordes back in 01. Oh, we can't do anything about that now. And what do we end up hearing most of the time? Gosh, these people were on our radar. Yeah. 632. Sorry for being a little irritated.

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Let's go. Every Friday morning, we're proud to have Rick Manning, President of Americans for Limited Government, DailyTorch.com, who is on the program to talk about everything swampy. And I don't know. Rick, I'm feeling a little bit irritated here. It's only the second day, you know, on the air in 2025. And I have the distinct impression that even before the Trump team gets into office, that it's going to be like, you know, idiots taking away.

Well, idiot Lucy and Charlie Brown with kicking the football and lucy pulls it away i don't know am i wrong to feel a little bit of the about this what i see what's going on with speaker johnson and various other uh permutations of idiocy going on what do you think um listen they the republicans could mess up a one-car parade. And this is a, there's a, you know, what we're watching today, and I don't know how it's going to come out in terms of speaker vote, is a prime example of that. And the, full disclosure, I have urged, Americans for a Limited Government has urged that the House pick Speaker Johnson to be the speaker. But he loses two votes, two or three votes.

He doesn't get to be speaker. So that's all it takes, a couple of votes, two Republicans, right? Probably three, depending on who's sick and who's not sick. But yeah, three, two or three Republicans saying, you know, we're not voting for Johnson for Speaker, could in fact, you know, would make it so somebody else would be Speaker. And the challenge with this is there's nobody else in line to be Speaker who has all the votes, you know, everybody lined up to vote for them. And as we saw during the long, drawn-out McCarthy vote, where he eventually got the votes to be Speaker and then later on got booted out anyway.

This is bloody, and it's disruptive. And Republicans, at best, if everybody is there, it's 220 to 215. Meaning you have to have unanimity on almost everything you want to do. That is such a narrow. In fact, I understand it the way it was explained to me in some other sources, is that this is the slimmest governing majority since the 1930s. Is that right? I don't know about the 1930s, but certainly the slowest in my lifetime.

And I'm a little younger than that. So that's a... But online on it is, in a world, in an internet world, where everybody can be a YouTube star. Everybody can be an Instagram model. Everybody can be an Instagram model. Everybody can be, you know, can make lots of money monetizing their. You'd be an influencer, being an influencer.

An influencer, yes. Yeah. And, you know, in that world, the temptation is to want to make headlines individually so you can enhance your value on social media and increase whether it's direct mail fundraising or online fundraising. There's a tremendous incentive to stand out. In other words, what's happening with our congressmen,

with our congressmen, Republican, Democrat, or otherwise, is that they don't look at themselves any longer as part of a deliberative body as much as they do, hey, yeah, I cast a vote now and then, but it's more important that I'm the multimedia star, the influence. media store? A lot of people in today's society are worried about their brand rather than the outcomes. And I'm not saying that that's a societal situation. What the Republicans have to understand, what I hope they, I'm begging them to understand, I'm trying to encourage them to understand, is that they have a once in a-a-generation, maybe a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to actually get something done. And it is a, even with the slim majority. But what they have to do to get something done in that slim majority is to put, is to have all their entire conference get behind the things they want to get done and and act as a closed fist as opposed to a bunch of individual fingers stick it out

an individual finger can poke you in the eye and cause you some pain a fist will knock you out and it is a and the objective here is to take the 220, turn it into a fist, and start and deal with immigration using Budget Reconciliation Act. Deal with cutting the size of government using the Budget Reconciliation Act. Well, you do not need 60 votes in the Senate. Only 50-plus, this is the vice president, in the Senate, only 50 plus. This is the vice president in the Senate to pass. The first step is early on. Speaker Johnson told me, along with a couple of other people are there. The first step is to have a budget that they want to pass within the first week of the new Congress coming in next week. Well, guess what? If they kick him out, that's all gone, isn't it?

It's all gone, and they lose three weeks fighting over who's going to be speaker, setting up a new speakership, setting up all the new staff for that, creating all the little pieces that have to be put together. And you have lost the first three weeks, three to five weeks, of the Donald Trump presidency to an internal squabble. A Donald Trump president from a legislative perspective has a grand total maximum of 13 months before it becomes a lame duck presidency. Now, a lot of people don't understand that.

And I've tried to make sure that people figure this out, that it's not about how many years you have in office. It's about how long it goes until you're into the next congressional election cycle. Isn't that what you're talking about this morning? One hundred percent. One hundred percent. And it's when you go into that next congressional cycle that matters. And the first primaries in Illinois for the 2026 congressional cycle are in January of 2026. So you have one year until you're January 2026. Now, the fact is you have those people lining up to run in those primaries in November, December, and actually before that.

So in some states, you literally have nine months before people are in cycle. a 2-20, 2-15 majority, with an incumbent president who's a Republican, it is highly likely, and historically speaking, it will be almost unprecedented for the Republicans to not lose control of the House in 2026. So you either do the big things right now and you do them right away, or you won't be getting them done. You never do. You don't know or you don't do them. Correct. Yeah.

You have to do it. And that's why my, you know, there's this school of thought in D.C. that you're going to get, that you can actually do a couple of, kind of do smaller pushes through something called Budget Reconciliation Act, which all Budget Reconciliation Act means is it has to have an impact on the budget, positive or negative. So you can't do stuff that isn't directly related to the budget and spending. And it's making it so the budget works better. And Congress has the right to do that.

They gave themselves a right to do that by carving out rules and say the Senate, unlike regular appropriations bills, it doesn't take 60 votes in the Senate to do budget reconciliation. Yeah, it would take 51, and 51 is that magic number then. That's a much easier, much lower threshold to get something done. And Biden did the inflation reduction act using budget reconciliation just as an example and what you're telling me right now at this point is that the democrats seem to be much more uh comfortable and organized about actually using and and well actually using their power to get something done at least the Democrats are a Borg. OK, just to put it in terms that people understand

they are a Borg. They have different faces and they say different things. But when it comes down to it, they are one. They do not they do not break loose. They do not run off and take off and take positions who cannot be pro pro-life and be a Democrat elected official, as an example. Whereas the Republicans are individuals. And we are the party of individuals. And it is a great thing to be the party of individuals because you get lots of innovation, you get lots of thinking, you get lots of great ideas, you get lots of different things, different possibilities of things that could be done.

Until it comes time to get a vote, because you have to get together and unite for the same vote. Otherwise, nothing happens with your great ideas. And you've got 220 people with their own great ideas who all want to have their great ideas incorporated into it, because it's the only time anything's going to pass. And as a result, some people don't like other people's great ideas. And so consequently, you end up with my great idea or else I'm not voting for you for this, even though the great ideas are within it firmly within my campaign. All my campaign brochures are last 20 years because it's not good because at some point they say it's just not good enough, because if you really get down to it with some people, it's never good enough. And that is a you know, that is a that's a challenge.

And in order for the Republicans to get anything done, they have to come up with this. They have to understand that if they get 75 percent of what they want done, completed, that is a massive win. Oh, it's revolutionary in contrast to what has happened in past Republican majorities. Courts have given Congress to really destroy the administrative state. The willingness of this administration to cut the size and scope of government by literally cutting significant percentage of federal workers and saying, you know, you no longer have jobs. We're reorganizing government to change the tax code significantly. And for me, once again, I'd vote for the taxes they're going to put, but the taxes and changes they put up. But if it were me, I'd tell them very simply, you want to create the most jobs, you want to create the most investment in America, put a standard deduction for every small business of $2 million of your profit gets written off. You get no taxes on that. And you would save every small business about, well, up to $2 million. Up to $2 million, you'd save them about $420,000 a year in taxes.

Every business would get that. But small businesses, it would matter because it effectively cuts most of their taxes down to zero. So your local business that's sitting there struggling to get by would have its tax rate at zero. And they'd be able to then take the money they weren't paying in taxes, move into the empty strip mall spot next door, expand their business. It would give you the opportunity. It would give an incentive then for formation of smaller businesses. You would reinvigorate Main Street in a way that nobody's...

What? You mean we could actually do something without... Maybe we could do something without Amazon, Rick? Is that what you're implying? By the way, you wouldn't be discriminating against Amazon because they still get to take right off the first $2 million they make, but that's couch cushion money for them. But that's the difference

between being able to sponsor local, local little league team or not for, for Joe's hardware. That's what, so to me, if they already, they're moving it down to 15% for, for people who basically hire Americans. I would, I would take it just flat zero, $2 million and say, and that would give you real, real economic growth. And where you want it, it's not targeted, but it would be, it is targeted. It's targeted at Main Street.

It's actually targeted at people who voted for Donald Trump and not people who voted for Joe Biden or Harris or whoever the heck they ran. Same person, just different body. So those are some things I would push. But am I going to say, no, I'm not going to do what's up there because I think I've got a better idea? No, I'm going to push for a better idea next time. I'm going to grow my better idea, grow boats around my better idea. So what you're hoping then that the better better nature of congress of the republicans in congress will be to necessarily uh put aside your individual ambition then for the ability to move something forward right rick i mean that's

ultimately what we're looking for right now and truthfully as big as much as you can get you know don't do don't sit there and sell for going small. This may be your only buy of the apple, so you better take a big one. And that is a – the smaller your majority, the harder that is. You have to get the Senate to agree to do something, which is always a problem. But the House is traditionally the body that takes the big chances. And the Senate then says, no, no, no, we've got to be reasonable and do less. Yeah, well, it was the House that gave us Obamacare, or the Democrats, right? It was the House, yes, it was.

Although Obamacare they didn't do through budget reconciliation. They did it as standalone because they had 60 votes in the Senate, and then they didn't, and then they did. And it was a lot of drama. Ted Kinney died in the middle of it, so then they had a Republican win, and they didn't have 60. And it was a lot of drama involved with getting Obamacare done based on that. But in this case, to do a lot of the stuff we're talking about, in fact, most of the stuff we're talking about, you need 50 senators and one vice president. I got the vice president. Can I get 50 senators?

I don't know. But the first step is don't blow up the entire opportunity for the Republicans to do anything legislatively by having a speaker fight dominate your the first month of the uh trump president and even even then after you were to get a new speaker then you have to get everything up to speed there and let me ask you i want to ask if you give me an honest opinion on this by the way rick manning president of americans for limited government dailytorch.com is with me this morning on the dc swamp update has talk radio actually hurt more than helped in this sort of situation? Because I can't tell you how many times I see the talkers, it's all about, oh, what a horrible speaker Mike Johnson is, or look at that, or look at what came in there, look at the giveaways to the

Democrats, and yet I can add and subtract votes, and I would see that most of the time you can't get much help there unless you have some Democrat votes too because of the lack of unity around the Republicans. Am I wrong about that? You know, I don't know that you're wrong about that. I will tell you, I think having honest arguments in the public space is important. You know, there's been times when I've been on the other side of speakers, as you know, and have been very vocal about it. I think having that there's time when you have to figure it out as a member of Congress,

as a person who's been entrusted by the people to make decisions, that it's not about headlines. It's about getting, you know, keeping your promises and getting stuff done. And if you're not willing to do anything, if you say, gee whiz, I need to have these changes made in the bill, but you're still not going to vote for it because you say, I've never voted for a continuing resolution before and I never will. Well, if the minute you say, I'll never vote for a continuing resolution, what you effectively said is you've turned the passage of a continuing resolution over to those who were willing to vote for it. And it's just, they just need to get smarter. It's almost like, and I can tell you this, I'm not going to tell which congressman, but a congressman who I'm relatively close to. I know a lot about what happens in this district because I have family that lives in this district.

And he was going down a path. It was the path, the right path. And I get a communication from my family saying, I can't believe he's doing this. He's betraying us. It's like, no. Okay, so your family tells you that this Congress is betraying the Republicans, right? They were heard through social media, through websites, and through various – and through talk radio to some extent – was a narrative that had less than zero chance of actually happening. It might have 20 votes in favor of it and not the number you need, 218. And so – but it was better. I mean, the pathway they wanted would be a better pathway.

You just didn't have enough people walking on it to make it the pathway. And the congressman knew that, and he was getting a heck beat out of him by people who were his best allies because he was trying to actually get the 75 percent done rather than saying i'll only take i won't unless i get 100 i won't do any of it and and that's the challenge it's always going to be the challenge but so it's going to be the challenge that as we see these battles coming up is that the odds of getting the 100% are very slim, but to get a good solid 75% does entail some compromise, is what you're saying. That means you're compromising and not getting 25%. Yeah. Now, I've been on both sides of this.

I'm going to tell a personal story with the current incoming president, but when he was first in office in 2017. We were being lobbied. The American Assembly of the United Government and a bunch of conservatives were being lobbied on the original version, the Ryan version of Obamacare repeal, which didn't do much, quite honestly. It was pretty disappointing. And so we were getting lobbied in the Oval Office to support it by the president. And he was brand new at the job. And I waited until after the meeting ended and talked to him one-on-one just because I hung around and waited because he asked me to.

And I said, listen, I can't vote for this. I can't support this. It doesn't give us anything. It doesn't meet any of the promises that were made. And you can't expect people to vote to support something that you guys drop with whole cloth with no other and say, oh, here, this is what you get. But it doesn't do anything you promised. And, you know, and so in some level,'s, you know, and basically that bill got pulled. They pushed a different one through that was better.

And then Lisa Murkowski and John McCain killed it. Of course. It was a, but the fact of the matter is that's always the problem. It's a push me, pull you where people have a, you have an absolute responsibility to fight for what you think is the best possible piece of legislation. But when the decision is made as to what's going to come to the floor, you have to make a decision. Is what we're getting better than what we would have otherwise? And is there any other chance if this down, to fix it any other place? And if you say, listen, this is the best we can get and the best we're likely to ever get,

even though I don't like it, but it fixes the problem, or at least partially fixes the problem, then you kind of have to vote for it. Because Congress generally works incrementally. It doesn't work in broad brush strokes. The only time you get to do broad brush strokes is when you have what we have right now, a Republican president, a Republican House, and a Republican Senate, at which point you can do some broad brush things. But by and large, on most bills, you don't get to and large, on most bills you don't get to. On appropriations bills, you don't get to do that. So what's the answer?

The answer is when you have a chance to do big things, do big things. The Budget Reconciliation Act, they have a chance to do big things. They can't do big things if they have a massive speaker's fight, which blows up any consensus in the House of Representatives and turns them into a bunch of squalling babies. So bite the bullet, vote for the speaker, get big things done. And then you can go home and you can say, I actually helped make it so federal government was smaller and more focused and doing what it's supposed to be doing and not what it isn't supposed to be doing. You can take a victory. You can go home. And when you lose Congress in 2026,

you can always know that you actually did something to save freedom in America. That you did something to rip some of the roots out of the administrative state, as an example, something we were talking about. Yeah. And that's their job. And that also means, though, possibly putting a seat or two at risk, but we understand that. We understand that, and you have to be willing to do that. I guess we're going to find out how big the boys and girls are this time around, Rick, because this morning, I guess we'll find out later this morning how big the boys and girls are. I think we will find out later this morning how big the boys and girls are.

I think we will. And, you know, it's going to be an interesting few opening months if the House of Representatives is busy who resigned because a bunch of rabble from America's federal government were going to primary beat him up in Pennsylvania, a guy named Charlie Dent, was on the media just a couple of days ago saying, well, whoever speaker is going to have to have Hakeem Jeffries on speed dial. What? Yeah. Well, that is Charlie Denton, a former congressman. His mother was a former RNC chairman. But that was his proclamation, that whoever speaker is going to have to have Hakeem Jeffries on speed dial, because you can't get 218 votes in this Republican conference.

It's time for people to prove that Charlie Dent's the world wrong and that the Republican party, their people, didn't elect a coalition government where the Democrats – Where the Democrats end up really being able to control it all. Yeah. Right. But that requires Republicans to compromise amongst themselves, put away the petty disagreements. And would that also mean also having to put away the RINO term? Because that ends up being used as something to smack up anybody that disagrees with someone, I swear. It does.

But, you know, some people wear the rhino term with a degree of pride. But, yeah, I think from my experience in young Republicans and college Republicans and all the volunteer things that I did throughout my life when I was before I became whatever I am now. We always fought the hardest against each other. And we never – and it was very hard to get anybody to focus on who we're supposed to be fighting against, which is the Democrats, because it's a lot more fun to turn off each other's mics and yell at each other and have those animosities from persons where you're – because it's very personal with your – with the people inside your little wagon train. And if you circle the wagons to protect yourself from outside attack,

but you spend all your time shooting each other inside the wagon train, you don't last very long. And that's what we're going to see if the Republicans are going to opt to do today. Are they going to shoot each other inside the wagon train, or are they going to attempt to actually succeed and try to pass a significant portion of the Trump agenda. Yeah. Hey, Rick, before we take off here. What's that now? If they're not going to do that, then Donald Trump's presidency is going to be a pen and phone presidency.

Which means that the Democrats will just reverse it all whenever they get control. You better win in 2028. J.D. Vance better win in 2028 and again in 2012 because you need about 12 years for that kind a as an anomaly rather than as somebody who made a fundamental difference in the course of American politics. Very good. We'll take that to the bank here. Hey, before we take off here, Rick, I was going to ask you, Biden ended up giving Liz Cheney presidential Citizens Medal for her work. Is that worth the betrayal? Does that make up for it? What do you think about that? I think they should track everybody who Biden is elevating and do a pretty good look at their email trails and the like from a forensic perspective to discover if criminal activity occurred.

So that would be my kind way of saying that it's not a word I would either ask for or accept. Got it. Thanks, Rick. We'll talk next Friday, all right? Be well. Thanks. Talk to you then. Bye. Rick Manning, president of Americans for a Limited Government, DailyTorch. Thanks, Rick. We'll talk next Friday, all right? Be well. Thanks. Talk to you then. Bye. Rick Manning, president of Americans for Limited Government, DailyTorch.com, okay? Town Hall News is coming up here in just a moment. Then we have Mr. Outdoors with the outdoor report and a bunch more this morning here. This is KMED and KMED HD1 Eagle Point Medford KBXG Grants Pass.