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Episode Date: January 6, 2025Some morning news, Part 1 of the Hugh Hewitt Donald Trump interview from earlier today you need to here. Is the last hope for Canada to merge with the U.S.? Leighton Grey, Canadian litigator thinks so.... He hosts the Grey Matter Podcast, good thinker!
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Good morning. It is 10 after 6. It is Monday, January 6th.
Yes, the January 6th. Four years.
Boy, four years ago it was quite a bit sportier.
It's going to be a lot calmer in the Capitol today, in the nation's Capitol.
We'll be talking a bit about that off and on throughout the morning because not only are they going to certify President Trump's election,
doesn't appear to be any drama really going to be connected with that, but there's an ice storm.
So just about everybody else is staying home.
So anybody that would go out there and wear the pink hats and everything else, it's way too cold.
It's way too nasty in the nation's capital.
And out here on the West Coast, gosh, very balmy.
I mean, we're at 50 right now.
Probably going to hit about 54 later today.
It's going to be very, very nice weather here and relatively dry over the next few days.
And then it's going to crank down.
We'll get back into some colder temperatures.
Remember, we were talking about this last week with greg roberts over at rogue weather
hugh hewitt i ended up having hugh hewitt on uh in place of this morning with gordon deal today
because he had president trump on for the final segment and if you were listening between 5 30
and 6 yeah you heard it i'll play part it. Actually, I might be able to squeeze most
if not all of it in
before the 6.30 break, and I might
play it again later this morning. It's something
worth hearing, because there was a lot of good conversation
on where he wanted to take the country,
but if you join Hugh Hewitt
late this morning
between 5.00 and 6.00, I'll get that
going on. I just think it's too important
to hear what he has going on. I just think it's too important to hear what he
has going on. Some of our top stories around here, though, of course, our congressional
delegation ended up getting sworn in on Friday. No particular drama there. Cliff Benz saying he's
going to work really hard to get the Republicans to help get America in better shape. And Cliff's
going to have his work cut out for them, as all the Republicans will, too.
But fortunately, with President Trump, one vote majority, maybe two votes,
it's going to be a real challenge keeping everybody whipped together.
And just understand that.
And that's why when I was talking about it on Friday,
it's not where you don't lower expectations, but you have to moderate what – there may have to be some deals cut.
Even Hugh Hewitt asked President Trump, well, would you put something in the big budget, the big, beautiful deal, would you put it in with – would you put a Dreamer take in there, something to help the Dreamers, give them some permanent legal status?
And he said he
would talk about it but we'll we'll hear that more on hugh's interview coming up but those are the
kind of things that may come up a lot of people just um of course i don't know i i'm at this
point where uh you know people who were brought here as kids you know did we punish them for the
sins of the parents i don't know they've been here you know they don't know mexico or any other
nation for that matter so we'll talk a bit about that.
So he is leaving that open to discussion.
Now, that doesn't mean necessarily yes, but we'll see.
All right.
Now, Providence bracing for a huge strike.
This is a big deal and is asking all sorts sorts of doctors uh you know to help them out here and uh oregon
nurses association it's kind of interesting they were talking about how providence can't be trusted
and yet we're supposed to be trusting providence how do you get past calling your boss just a nasty
jerk which is what the oregon nurses association was doing last week in their press release there
how do you get past that and then come back to work that, oh, you gave us some more money and now we're happy.
And now you're not a jerk and now you're not untrustworthy.
That's pretty interesting.
But that's going to be a big deal.
Something which is not getting talked about, though, and I don't know if it's just kind of on the down low or maybe I'm just misinterpreting it.
I'm getting people calling me from behind the scenes of the medical world.
I'm going to try to reach out to Asante because not only do we have challenges over at Providence,
but the talk is that Asante has run through all of its business insurance.
This is the rumor.
Now, I haven't been able to get this confirmed but the rumor is that asante has um has has reached the cap has reached the cap on their ability to uh to have insurance cover
the cost of these uh these drug diversion cases you know the danny scofield cases
and it is uh a real challenge and remember way back in the beginning, we were talking about this being kind of an existential threat kind of thing for the going concerns of Asante.
It's just my opinion.
You just look at stuff like this can really take people down.
And that there could be some talks of merger with another firm of some sort.
And I can't really get all that specific to it but uh you know we do have a very
interesting time here in southern oregon with nurses going after providence and uh the legal
system could be uh causing some real heartburn and what i've been this is what i've been hearing
from behind the scenes and maybe you could uh if there are any people in the medical world that might be able
to confirm some of this of what is going on that um providers that asante has had for a long long
time have just had they had their contracts being canceled at the end of the year at the end of last
year now maybe this is just something routine they go and get different ones but between that
and then another individual telling me oh yeah well they've
run through up to the limits on their on their on their business coverage on their ability to
ensure the business i guess this is what malpractice or all the rest of it uh you know who knows like
i said this is just what i'm hearing i have not been able to confirm it but i think it is just
something to you know be aware of.
Now, I'm not saying that doors aren't open.
That's not the case at all.
But medical system down here in Southern Oregon is in big flux from the looks of it.
That is for sure.
And it may be more than just the Oregon Nurses Association strike against Asante,
which could be coming up here quite shortly.
This is the Bill Myers Show, 16 minutes after 6,
and we're going to play part of Hugh Hewitt's interview with President Trump here next,
and we'll do that.
Also coming up a little bit later, oddly enough,
some guests that are reflecting some things that President Trump has been talking a lot about.
You know how he's joking about, well, you know, we should take over Canada.
Well, the talk is that Justin Trudeau is probably going to resign today.
And I'm going to be talking with Leighton Gray.
He's an attorney in Canada.
And he also has a podcast, Gray Matter Podcast.
And he says that actually a merger of Canada and the United States would be the best thing that could ever happen to Canada.
Huh.
And they have single-payer health care. I don't know. and the United States would be the best thing that could ever happen to Canada. Huh.
And they have single-payer health care.
I don't know.
But we'll get his take on that. We're also going to be talking about the H-1B visa issue with Dr. David Kadani.
And he says that that is one of the biggest security leaks that we have.
I would say there's some other, that just about all of the student visas are also a problem, too.
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Good morning.
21 after 6.
A little earlier, Hugh Hewitt had President Trump, President-elect Trump,
and they talked about a lot of the issues.
We'll play part of that now and some more of it a little bit later this morning, too.
And the first question had to do with Mike johnson in wanting that big beautiful budget deal the one big deal well i
favor one bill i also want to get everything passed and you know there are some people that
don't necessarily agree with us i'm open to that also my preference is one big as i say one big
beautiful bill now to do that takes
longer. You know, to submit it takes longer, actually. But but so it's a longer process.
I would say that I'd live with that. I believe we'd get. I don't know, to me, it just is a cleaner.
It's cleaner. It's nicer. Now, with that being said, we'd get some border work done a little
bit earlier, et cetera, et cetera.
But the border work, you know, we have a lot of money that we're going to be clawing back from the Green News scam and all of the trillions of dollars, billions and trillions.
You usually have to use the word trillions nowadays, unfortunately.
But from the trillions of dollars that we're going to be throwing back and we have we have money.
We don't need it desperately immediately. You know, two months is going to make a difference.
So I can just say this. The border is going to be secure. We're going to start it immediately.
Tom Holman is central casting. He's going to do a great job. And that whole group is going to be fantastic.
And I did it before and we're going to do it again.
We had the best border we've ever had, and now we'll have the best border we've ever had times two.
I would prefer one, but I will do whatever needs to be done to get it passed.
And, you know, we have a lot of respect for Senator Thune, as you know.
He may have a little bit of a different view of it.
I heard other senators yesterday, including Lindsey, talking about it.
They prefer it the other way.
So I'm open to either way as long as we get something passed as quickly as possible.
The reason I want one bill is because tax certainty matters to small business people like me
and like everyone listening to this show.
They've got to know what the rules are going to be in 2026.
You've got a great Trump tax cuts, but they're they're expiring at the end of the year.
The sooner we know you're a businessman, you know, the better off we are.
Well, it would be awfully hard to imagine, you know, in the old days, politicians would get up and talk about tax cuts.
Right. We will cut your taxes. We will cut your taxes.
That was like a sure way to get elected
because the Democrat party is so loused up. It's so terrible. And so they've lost their confidence.
They've lost a lot of confidence, but they get up and they're the only party I've ever heard that
say, we're going to raise your taxes. With that being said, I can't imagine the, that they would
not approve. This would be the largest tax increase in the history of the world, okay?
I mean, let alone in this country.
And I can't imagine the Democrats would do that to this country and do that to the people
just because they happen to dislike Republicans or me.
Yeah, I can't either, but they are Democrats, so we don't know.
Mr. President, you've got four big things coming up in this term.
You've got our 250th birthday on July 4th next year, 2026.
But we actually have the 250th birthday of Lexington and Concord in April.
That's a big deal.
That's the shot heard around the world.
Are you going to go up there for a speech on the 250th anniversary?
I like the idea.
I think so.
People have talked about it.
I would do it. Then you've got the Olympics. You think so. People have talked about it. I would do it.
Then you've got the Olympics.
You've got the World Cup.
You have a very sad 25th anniversary of 9-11 coming up.
Which of these do you think is going to be the most fun in terms of,
and obviously not 9-11, but is Olympics, World Cup, the 250th birthday,
what are you looking forward to the most?
Well, I got them, and it was very interesting.
They called me.
The World Cup, I did that with Gian interesting. They called me the World Cup. I did
that with Gianni and the people at the World Cup and I got them. They wanted it here. They
really fought very hard. And I was the one that got it when I was president. And so I said to
myself, you know, the sad part is this is before the election, before a certain election that took
place that we won't talk about. But I said the sad part is I got the Olympics and I got the World Cup for our country,
and I will not be there as president.
And look what happened.
I'm going to be there as president.
So it's sort of very nice.
And obviously the 25th anniversary, it's hard to use the word anniversary,
but that 25th anniversary is also very important.
It's going to be very, very somber.
I'm looking forward to your speech that day.
I'm really looking forward.
The bicentennial, not the bicentennial, the 250th birthday will be quite a big day.
Mr. President, Powerline guys posted your testimony about the U.N. from 2005 over the weekend,
so a lot of people got to see that.
I have told everyone I've ever known, watch that testimony. That's Donald Trump, the developer,
talking about getting things done. Is that the same momentum you're bringing in this time? You
just want to get things done? Got to get things done. We don't get them done. I see it just came over that Biden has banned all oil and gas drilling across
625 million acres of U.S. coastal territory. It's ridiculous. I'll unban it immediately.
I will unban it. I have the right to unban it immediately. What's he doing? Why is he doing it?
You know, we have something that nobody else has. I mean, nobody has to the extent we have it. And
it'll be more by the time
we finish because I'll be able to expand. You know, we're going to expand our country and it'll
be more. We have oil and gas. And whether you manufacture widgets or gidgets or whatever you
happen to be doing, some countries have to work very hard to do that. We do, too, and we will.
But we have oil and gas at a level that nobody else has. And we're going to take advantage of it.
And when I see somebody saying he's going to ban 625 billion acres, he doesn't know what that is.
He doesn't even know what 625 million acres would look like.
And we can't let that happen to our country.
It's our greatest, it's really our greatest economic asset.
And we're not going to let that happen to our country.
I saw that.
I don't believe he's making any of these decisions.
He might be saying, someone might be guiding his hand,
but do you think he's competent for the last two weeks, Mr. President?
Well, the things he's doing with Soros and other elements,
he's giving very, very important, you know, distinguished awards, medals and and sort of, you know, certifying that they
are wonderful people for our nation. These are people that have done tremendous harm in cases.
I don't know. I really don't believe that this is the same man that I used to watch 25 years ago.
He was sort of semi conservative. I wouldn't call him conservative, but he was a little bit in the
middle, at least. And now he's gone radical left and they just lost an election because they were radical left. And
they're going to lose another one. They're going to lose a lot of elections if they keep this going.
But you're giving up the biggest assets that we have. I mean, all of that. If you ever look at
it on a map, what 625 million acres is, he's giving this all up and it's extraordinary and i think
it's an abuse of that statute and i do think you can reverse it if not i can change it immediately
it'll be changed on day one i can change it immediately now they'll do everything they can
to make it as difficult as possible you know they talk about a transition they're always saying oh
no we want to have a smooth transition from party to party of government.
Well, they're making it really difficult.
They're throwing everything they can in the way.
They're giving out trillions of dollars in nonsense, in Green New Deal crap that isn't worth a damn thing.
In fact, it's a negative for the country, not a positive.
And they're giving out money at levels that nobody's ever seen just to get the money. They're throwing it
at people. They're throwing it at Syria this morning. The State Department announced this
morning they're sending humanitarian aid to Syria. We don't know who's running Syria.
I don't know who's running the State Department, but it's kind of crazy. It's what they're
doing. They're just taking money and throwing it hand over fist.
It's money that should have never been given to them anyway.
It should have been blocked.
I mean, it's so sad that they got it.
But they're throwing it, and they're throwing it in any direction.
They just want to get rid of it.
It's the worst abuse of power I've ever seen.
So, Mr. President, let's turn to Israel.
Other than what they did to me, of Mr. President, let's turn to Israel. Other than what they did to me, of course.
Okay, yes. Let's go to Israel.
We'll get to Jack Smith in a moment.
I'll get to the archivist in a moment.
Will Israel have a friend in the White House again?
Because Joe Biden's been a yo-yo with Israel.
Will you continue
military aid uninterrupted,
depart from the
Biden policy of micromanaging?
We've got about a minute down the line, folks.
Go ahead.
Well, I'm the best friend that Israel ever had.
You look at what happened with all of the things that I've gotten,
including Jerusalem being the capital, the embassy getting built.
I got it built.
I not only said we're going to.
I said, you know, we got it built to have a beautiful embassy.
All of the different things, the magnificent Mount Don High,
you know what I'm talking about there.
Everyone said that couldn't be done, and I got it done.
It was what we've done.
And, of course, the Abraham Accords.
You look at the Abraham Accords.
Every single thing that, every major event that's happened to Israel
over the last fairly short period of time has been given through me.
6.30, and that, of course hugh hewitt with uh president trump i should say with you hewitt a little bit earlier this morning wanted to make sure you heard some of the media that and there
is a bit more of that we'll play that a bit later on in the program okay we'll catch up all the rest
of the news here in just a moment layton gray might canada merging with the united States be the best thing that ever happened for Canada?
What about us?
We'll talk about that coming up.
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you're waking up with the bill myers show appreciate you waking up here 634 even if we are just a
little uh just a little bleary-eyed after the long holiday weekend even though i was working
thursday friday a lot of people they still take the rest of
that that first week of the year off but hey we're back everyone is is happy apparently hey
leighton gray joins me he's the host of the gray matter podcast and he is a litigator by trade and
he ended up taking a leap into the world of podcasting because uh why you're looking for a
search for truth and justice.
Boy, you've got to look pretty hard for that sometimes, don't you, Leighton?
Welcome to the show.
It's great to have you on.
On your program.
Okay.
Pleasure.
Now, what do you do on the Gray Matter podcast, if you don't mind?
First, why don't we give a little plug for what you're doing there.
Well, as people are probably aware, freedom of speech is very much under attack in Canada.
I realized this going back a few years ago during the pandemic, and so about three years ago,
I decided to start a podcast that would talk about some of the issues in politics, religion,
and really the philosophy of our lives that are not being reported truthfully in media.
And so that's the focus of our podcast.
Normally I'll produce a commentary on a topic like the one we're how Canada really is and the way perhaps Americans have Canada presented to them?
Could you take a stab at that?
This is a great question.
Robin Williams, the late Robin Williams, the comedian, he had a funny joke.
He said he described Canada as a loft apartment over a great party. And I think that the one thing that Americans maybe misunderstand
is how culturally close Canada is to the United States.
We really have shared origins going back to Great Britain,
all the way back to the Revolution, even pre-Revolution.
And so that really the sort of culture, popular culture of Canada is very, very similar to that of the United States.
The other thing that I think would surprise Americans is that Canadians have been indoctrinated into the belief that we are somehow superior morally to the United States.
And this goes back to the idea that, you know, we didn't revolt
against the king. We didn't rebel. Our country was formed out of a peaceful, you know, essentially
legal process. This is an indoctrination. It's an untruth. And more and more Canadians are waking
up to the idea that, you know, we're not superior to Americans.
We don't have a better way of doing things.
We aren't more peaceful.
We aren't smarter.
And that this is a lot of stuff and nonsense.
And, in fact, most Canadians, many Canadians are waking up to the idea that, wow, Americans maybe have it right.
Because in your most recent election, you've turned towards freedom.
You've turned towards prosperity.
You've turned away from a lot of the things that Justin Trudeau stands for and has been using to destroy our country over the past decade or so.
Now, Leighton, just a few minutes ago, of course, the stories are out there,
reports that Justin Trudeau is likely going to resign today.
And what does that mean for the future of Canada?
Who would replace him or who might replace
him I don't necessarily understand the the politics of the Canadian government yeah well
you're right he's facing significant internal pressure from his own party now to resign much
like Joe Biden experienced for different reasons you know during the election campaign but you know
the calls for his departure come amidst historically low approval ratings for his
party, and the recent resignation of really key figures within his cabinet, essentially
the person who's the equivalent of his vice president, not only resigned, but sort of
threw him under the bus and drove over him three times.
And so despite this mounting pressure, Trudeau's been actively engaging, trying to engage in
his governmental duties,
including trying to chair a Canada-U.S. Relations Cabinet Committee meeting,
which is basically aimed at trying to figure out what the hell to do about Mr. Trump's tariffs that he's about to impose on Canada,
which is another thing Americans maybe don't realize, the impact that that has had,
and indeed the impact that the election of Donald Trump
has had upon Canada and the Canadian political situation.
I think that Justin Trudeau, who supported Barack Obama and also supported Joe Biden
in the most recent U.S. presidential election, he knows he's no friend to Donald Trump.
Donald Trump, as you know, is very transactional, has made this very clear.
I think the writing was on the wall for Justin Trudeau in terms of his leadership as soon as that November 5th election result was in.
In fact, I predicted at that time that Justin Trudeau would be gone by Valentine's Day.
He's ahead of schedule, so my great pleasure.
What is the, or shall we say, what was the straw that broke the Canadian camel back,
in your view, politically, with Justin Trudeau?
Well, it's been a combination of things.
I think what Americans need to understand, and perhaps many do, is that Canada has become a CCP client state.
We are the avatar for all things woke.
All the things that Americans rejected with the Democrats recently are not only existing in Canada,
but are much more advanced because they've had a lot more time.
But the main thing with Justin Trudeau is I think MAGA has had a huge impact because I see MAGA not just as a political movement,
but as a made-in-America response to globalism.
And Justin Trudeau and his government stand for globalism. I think that actually he's taking his cues from people outside of our country.
I think many Canadians, most Canadians, have awakened to the reality that Justin Trudeau and his government are not governing Canadians in a way that is in their best interest.
And again, this is much the way that I think many Americans felt about the Biden administration.
What is an example of how Trudeau governed that was against the actual interests of Canadians. Now, I remember back during COVID time, of all the Western democracies,
Justin Trudeau was particularly punitive. I can still recall what happened to the punishment of
the truckers and the financial repression of people, too. And if you weren't going to get
in line with the narrative, as it were, well, then we're going to just take your money or make
sure you can't get to it. And we see some of that here in the united states too and there's you know this and so it's like
yeah we may be a little bit cleaner but than canada in in some ways here layton but it's only
by a matter of degrees yes and it depends where you are in the united states as well yes um whereas
in canada is a much smaller country but i think to answer your question about the straw that broke the camel's back, I think it's mass immigration.
The character of Canada is changing daily because of the massive numbers of people who are coming here from other parts of the world.
They don't accept our values.
They don't accept Western culture.
They're anti-Christian.
They're protesting about it. They're telling us that they're going to take over the country. Americans saw some of these protests, and it's manifested itself in terms of anti-Semitism in your country. That has happened in Canada as well, but to a much greater degree, to the point where the Justin Trudeau government has even legislated Islamophobia
and made it illegal for anybody to even criticize the Muslim faith,
which, as you know, unfortunately has been the author of terrorism for many centuries.
But if I were to interject here, on the other hand, if you were to actually profess Christian privileges
that were against the trans agenda, that would also get you in trouble with Trudeau's government, does it not,
in many cases? That's hate speech. Yes, they've legislated hate speech in Canada,
much the same way that you've seen in Great Britain, and the way that Mr. Walz and Kamala
Harris wanted to in the United States States in spite of the First Amendment.
And so, yes, that's another feature of Trudeau.
But I think the real issue overall is that he's just become a detestable figure.
He governs Canada as a prince, spends millions of dollars on expensive vacations,
has a gigantic entourage that I think is larger than Mr. Trump's.
He cannot even go out in public anywhere,
can't even cross in between buildings without being vilified and castigated by Canadians.
He really is a hated figure right now.
And the fact that he's hanging around this long, when over 70% of canadians want him out as our prime minister
you know is a sign of the sort of the despair that's descended upon canada and it needs to end
layton gray is the host of the gray matter podcast and on my side i will certainly put up everything
so that you can find out more about late and i want to we're talking today about the trudeau
administration and how canada is being governed You ended up putting out a piece recently where you claimed that you think that Canada could be doomed
unless the United States were to actually merge with it or were to come in.
And I know that there was a lot of controversy when President Trump was talking about that,
but you think there's actually some truth to what's going on behind with that claim?
I'd like to hear it. Well, I don't think it's news to anyone.
I think going back all the way again to the Revolution and then again to the War of 1812 and even as recently as the World War II when they were sort of looking at remapping the world,
America has always had a plan, a contingency plan, for making Canada part of the Union.
And this would seem to be an opportune time.
Canada is really flagging and failing economically, socially, politically.
And we're not able to keep up our obligations under NATO.
We're a heavily taxed country.
And we pose a geopolitical threat to the safety and security of the United States. Donald Trump has talked about this. It's absolutely shameful to a Canadian that Canada is
a net exporter of the filth of fentanyl to the United States. Our borders are not secure. We
can't protect our borders. Last year, when these Chinese weather balloons were going over North
America, the ones that float over Canada,
we had to ask the U.S. Air Force to come on into Canadian airspace to shoot them down because we didn't have the material or the personnel to do it.
Really?
I think there are many reasons to sort of reconsider what North America would look like.
And it might be to the benefit of all.
And I would encourage our leaders to look
at that seriously, because ultimately, it's not about who's in governance, it's about the governed
and what their best interests are. Light and gray here, once again, you were talking about how
things are very different in Trudeau's Canada, depending on which province you are living in.
And it's very much
the same as the different states that you live in the United States I'm on the west coast you're in
the Alberta province if I understand correctly right that's correct okay great is um is the
real hotbed of Chinese communist activity out in the uh in the Vancouver the event to Vancouver
Victoria area is that pretty much what you are alluding to with the with the
takeover because it seems like the entire west coast has uh has bent the knee to a lot of chinese
communism over the years yes i think the culture of that part of canada is very much like the west
coast of the united states for example california and and o, whereas you look at places like Toronto,
they're very much like New York and the eastern seaboard in the U.S.
Alberta is a bit of an outpost, and a lot of it has to do with our frontier history.
Alberta is just north of Montana.
And at one time, we had the largest population of Americans anywhere in the world outside of the United States.
That's because of the connections of the oil industry and going back all the way to the cattle industry and even to the fur trade and, of course, the old Yukon gold rush.
We have a very strong American culture in Canada and a very Christian culture. You know, in the 20th century, three of our
leaders, they're called premiers in Canada, sort of like our governors, were actually
radial Bible preachers.
Really?
Yeah, so we have a very deep culture of evangelical Christianity in Alberta, and those roots are
still here. And so we maintain very strong ties to the United
States, in fact, in many ways, much closer than we do to the rest of Canada. And so that's why
Alberta is a little bit different in our culture. And, you know, it's not a surprise that people
like me, who are, let's say, you know, critics of Trudeau, are are in the West as opposed to in the eastern part of the country.
That makes a lot of sense there.
Do you think that the damage is reversible in Canada, though?
Because there's been a lot of rot put in the United States, too.
And Donald Trump, of course, really is a symptom of that reaction, that revulsion to the rot,
the cultural rot of many years, I think, many decades.
Yeah, that's the question of the day, not only in your country, but also in Canada.
The problem we face in Canada is that the rot, as you described, it goes back all the way to
Justin Trudeau's father, who was our longest serving prime minister from 1968 to 1984.
He was a dyed-in-the-wool communist. He was sort of Canada's Barack Obama. And he started a lot of the processes that are
flourishing right now in terms of the destruction of our cherished institutions,
the woke-ification, if you will, the introduction of Marxism in our schools and in our major
institutions. And so there's a great deal of work to be done.
Is it reversible?
Well, we know all things are possible for God, and I think that's the main thing.
That's the main problem I think Canada has fundamentally.
Once you get down into the rocks of it, is that we've become a very secular country.
And, you know, secular is just
a nice way of saying atheistic. And I think that our countries in the United States and Canada
were formed under God, with God at the head of the state. And I think that means a lot of things
in terms of cultural Christianity. All the freedom and prosperity, all the values that we enjoy in
the West that made it the greatest place in the world to live,
maybe in history, all stream back to the fountainhead of Christianity and Judeo-Christian values.
And without that, I don't think there's much hope for Canada or the future.
Interesting. Layton, once again, pardon me, Layton Gray is the attorney and host of the Gray Matter podcast. It is 10 before 7 on KMED and 99.3 KBXG.
Leighton, we really appreciate you taking advantage of coming on the program this morning and sharing a little bit about what's going on, especially this very important day in which Justin Trudeau is rumored to be leaving.
OK, and yeah, I don't think too many people will be really upset about that. How does I've always wanted to ask someone I've heard mixed. I've heard mixed reports about that the single payer, the way you're working, is a far superior way of working life.
Here in the United States of America, it's mixed.
We have really kind of a half single pay with Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, and a half very overburdened private insurance kind of world right now.
And they're saying that the way we solve is to become like Canada.
How does it really work, in your opinion?
Poorly.
Mr. Winston Churchill famously said that socialism is the ideology of failure.
And this is true in all of its applications and manifestations, including health care.
Canada's health care system is failing.
Anybody who can afford to go to the United States for important medical care does so.
I can tell you that myself and many of my friends actually carry U.S. insurance.
I'll give you an example.
My father-in-law a few years
ago was on a two-year waiting list to get a routine hip replacement. I was able to get him
into a clinic in Phoenix with an expatriate Canadian doctor, mind you, within a few days,
and he got his hip replacement, and he was back playing golf within a few months.
So the whole idea of Canada having a superior medical care system is farcical.
It's a lie that's being told to your people.
In fact, the only two countries that we would consider industrialized
that have a single-payer system are Canada and North Korea.
That's not a very good company for us, is it?
No, I wouldn't think so, and it seems to be getting worse as of late.
So really long waiting periods for major procedures.
Okay.
Well, it's so bad that people who are really sick are routinely offered something called medical assistance in dying,
which is where the government offers to harvest your organs.
And nearly one in 20 Canadians are now killing themselves voluntarily with the assistance of the state.
So Canada, at the same time, has the most permissive abortion laws in the world.
By the way, 45 million babies died last year worldwide.
That's three times the number of people who died in all of World War I.
But not only are we killing babies freely in this country, our people are killing ourselves.
And suicide, medically assisted suicide, is the fifth leading cause of death in Canada.
So that gives you an idea of the kind of despair that's descended over this country.
And it needs to change.
And this has all happened within the last 10 years under the dreadful Trudeau regime,
which I'm praying every day will come to an end.
Now, in the state of Oregon, we're in the red section,
and some would say semi-purple section of Oregon, in the southern part of Oregon.
So we have a lot of issues with our governing socialists up in Salem, okay?
Just so you understand what we're all about.
But it is amazing how death-focused socialist states are.
Like you're saying, here we have, they call it death with dignity, but I guess in your particular case, in Canada, if you cost too much for medical treatment,
well, here's a pill, take one and you'll feel better forever that kind of thing
well i mean it's one of the worst ideas that the nazis had um you know euthanasia that it really
is it's an anti-human concept along with abortion which ties perfectly into the globalism that i
spoke of earlier remember remember the globalists want to destroy seven-eighths of the world's
population uh and and the way that they get there in terms of boots on the ground is through up earlier. Remember the globalists want to destroy seven-eighths of the world's population.
And the way that they get there, in terms of boots on the ground, is through things like medical assistance in dying and through mass abortion. That's how we do it. This is why
the whole impetus for having massive numbers of people coming to the United States and Canada
from the third world,
is our low birth rate.
What's driving the low birth rate?
And now we have on top of that higher death rates because people are killing themselves.
So you get to see through the veneer what the globalists are really all about
and really how destructive they are.
This is the hour when all this must change.
And praise God that you have someone like Mr. Trump who's come in And really how destructive they are. This is the hour when all this must change.
And praise God that you have someone like Mr. Trump who's come in and he's committed to putting an end to it in the United States.
And I think he's having a significant impact around the world, including in Canada.
Leighton, I'm going to ask a question that might cause you to, I don't know how you'll answer this one.
I'm going to throw it to you anyway.
You're big on ending the globalist war.
And I agree with you.
I think it's just been one of the most anti-human, just evil moves that has been.
Is there a possibility, though, that merging the United States with Canada, or Canada with the United States, let's say, would actually foster more globalism.
And the reason I bring this up, a number of years ago, I can still remember the conversations with a former Mexican,
Mexican President Vincente Fox when he was talking about the George Bush administration at that time.
This was shortly after 9-11, that post-9-11 world.
And he was talking about it, and they were asking him,
well, is there going to be this merger with Mexico?
And he said, oh, long-term, long-term there's going to be, yes,
we will be getting together like that.
And then there's a part of me that wonders if, you know,
the first thing they do is that, okay, first it's Canada and then Canada and then it becomes the United States of America.
But it's still kind of a bigger, more lumbering kind of government.
In other words, we take an already big and incompetent government in many ways and make it even bigger, more of a – and so it might actually help globalism or help the cause.
What would you say
to that well there is a kernel of truth in that except that when you look when you compare the
united states let's say to the european union what you have in the european union and which
has really fostered globalism is the surrender of sovereignty of formerly sovereign nation states into this conglomerate,
which is the EU.
It operates in a very undemocratic fashion.
What you have in the United States is something quite unique in that it's a constitutional
republic in which the powers of the individual states are respected.
And you've seen some very recent Supreme Court decisions in your country
that have really fortified this and reaffirmed this, that the states have a lot of individual
power and jurisdiction. And of course, I think that is a great bulwark against the type of
globalism that you are talking about. The United States is a union of states.
Yes, it is a nation state, but it's a union of states.
It was that in the beginning. It still is that.
And so if Canada came on and joined the United States in that fashion,
and let's say it became a 51st state, then it would be part of that union,
governed by those constitutional principles, which are both historically and
globally unique.
So I think the manner in which the United States is governed is a great bulwark itself
against globalism.
Interesting.
How large is the population of Canada at this moment?
About one-ninth what the United States is, about 40 million.
About 40 million.
Most of that is in the east.
Alberta, for example, has a population of only about four and. About 40 million. Most of that is in the east. Alberta, for example,
has a population of only
about 4.5 million people.
Well, that's about the size of Oregon.
You're the size of Oregon.
Right.
State of Oregon.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yes.
But I mean,
there are many benefits of it
in terms of trade.
Canada is a very resource-rich country.
We have the third largest
oil and gas deposit anywhere in the world.
We have massive deposits of uranium, which has obvious application to all things nuclear.
We have a lot of gold, a lot of diamond.
And if you were part of the family, something tells me that President Trump would not be looking at tariffs any longer, right?
That kind of goes away.
No, of course not. Of course not.
I don't see how tariffs would benefit.
Tariffs with Canada would benefit the United States, let alone Canada,
be disastrous for Canada because we're so dependent on trade with the United States.
I don't think that those tariffs, I don't think he's serious about those tariffs.
I think that he's going to find better ways
to deal with Canada in terms of trade.
Well, better to find a deal that is win-win.
He's very big on win-win, I think, on this.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, he will.
And he's very transactional.
But I think when he brought Justin Trudeau down there
to Mar-a-Lago before Christmas
I think he told him that the jig was up
that he did not
unless Justin Trudeau got on board
with MAGA, things were going to
be very very tough for Justin Trudeau
and Justin Trudeau did not
he didn't get the memo and he's finding out
too late that
this is the end of his
pardon the pun his communist party up in Canada.
From your lips. I hope that is the case, Leighton. Leighton Gray is host of the Gray
Matter podcast. And do you have a main website for all of this? Because like I said, you talk
a lot on these sort of issues. Yeah, the best place to find us in Canada, because our media is so restricted,
is on X. And people can find us at at gray matter convo. That's at gray matter convo.
All of our content is there. If people like what they see, then, you know, please, please follow
us and share. We have a lot of US content,S. authors and commentators on our site.
So it isn't just for people who are interested in Canada.
Leighton, I really appreciate getting a chance to meet you, and I'm hoping to have you back.
I'm going to keep you in the context here for sure, because I really enjoyed the talk
about what's going on here, because we are kind of wedded.
We're wedded on the same content we're on the same continent rather and it would be uh great to see more of a friendly relationship rather than this
uh you know push me pull you relationship that we've had for quite some time layton gray once
again thank you so much for having been on the show we will have you back be well thank you
thank you this is kmed and kmed hd1 eagle point medford kbxg grants pass it's a minute
after seven hi it's john at wilburn's weapons apply the bill myers show is on news talk 1063
kmed vicky's in the apple gate kind of foggy this morning you were wondering about that canadian
talk i had with layton gray how you doing are you doing this morning? Good. How are you?
I'm well, thank you.
So I just had a couple of questions.
For one, if Canada decided to merge with the United States,
how would they go about that?
Is it a vote of the people to say,
yes, we want to be part of the United States,
would they then adopt our Constitution?
Yeah, I've been looking into a little bit of this.
And first off, it starts with a lot of negotiation, is what it does.
Because there are all sorts of ways that Congress that uh congress and of course i would imagine
through presidential treaty that you could submit then to the to the senate for uh for ratifying or
for ratifying that might be uh one way of going about it but yeah um you know a lot of the horse
trading i think vicky would go into all right how many, because even one state, you probably wouldn't want to bring Canada in under a one state kind of thing.
It would be more, yeah, you'd probably have, and it could be even the provinces come in as their own states to an extent.
Like, as an example, Alberta, where Le where layton lives about four and a half million
well it'd be kind of like oregon so you get another senator and i mean you know maybe you
know three four representatives you know that kind of thing uh the vancouver side of things
has uh has more uh population but yeah it would certainly upset the political apple cart there'd
be a lot to talk about because you're talking about different numbers of senators at that point and reps.
There's a lot of moving parts.
It's kind of a long-term sort of thing, but it's starting to stir many of the Canadians' imaginations, as it were.
I don't think Leighton's alone on that because they've been enduring a hard communist system in many ways for a long time,
or at least a, first it was soft communism, then it was hardening under Justin Trudeau.
But on the other hand, you know, they may pull back and get somebody in there that is
more Trumpian in his or her outlook, and maybe they'll say, hey, let's become Canadian again.
You never know.
You never know.
Right.
Well, and it's funny because um mexico
a lot of people criminals or people that are in trouble in the united states run to mexico
and they also go to uh canada so if canada became part of the united states there's not a lot of
place i mean nowhere to run no place to hide right Like I said, it's interesting, though, that
Leighton agreed to come on, especially the day
that Justin Trudeau is
rumored to be
quitting. And boy, they're
real happy about it. And a lot of this is also
due to President Trump's influence. Quite
interesting. So, hey, appreciate the call.
And right now, it's sort of a
mental exercise more than anything.
KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass.
We'll catch up on the rest of the news next.
And then we're going to be talking another aspect of Trumpian news coming in here.
The take on of the H-1B visa issue.