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Episode Date: January 6, 2025

Dr. Powers, Where Past Meets Present, and the latest historical Profile is the Carpenter Foundation history. What about the Trump Sentencing, the tribal casison and other news?

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. 16 after 8, Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law at Southern Oregon University, and he's back. By the way, his website is dennispowersbooks.com. You can find out more about where past meets present, still available at Hellgate Press. Want to get the name of that right. How are you doing?

Doc, welcome back. Happy New Year. Happy New Year. It's always good to be back in the saddle again. Always great to have you here. Hey, Doc, we ran a little bit late here with Dr. Kanani because we had a little bit of a scheduling snafu. Thanks for being flexible here. But he was bringing up an interesting point he's uh very much against the the way that visas are done in h1b

in high tech world and also the f1 visas and by the way he uh he runs he's this uh this big director at oregon at oh i'm sorry not in oregon, but at ORT. Let me see if I can just get it. ORT is a big technical college, series of technical colleges here in the United States of America. And he's been here since the days of the Shah of Iran. So we're talking the mid-1970s. He has more degrees than I possibly could shake the stick at, right? And he says that in essence we're shortchanging our future and we have a massive security leak here with the H-1B, not only the H-1B visas, but also the F-1 student visas.

And I'm kind of curious, do you recall if SOU, when you were there, ended up doing a lot of F-1 visas? These are student visas here for the United States where you can basically work here and go to school? Well, no, because the fact really wanting to have these as students, or is he one that really doesn't want them to go to work for technical companies? You're right in terms of now it's controversial. Yeah, he's concerned about it because nothing that is being done is trying to revitalize, and he's looking for Native Americans, actually Native American stock, to be in these schools rather than us educating the Chinese, as it were,

and the Indians, as the case might be, Eastern Indians. You know, that is a alluring argument. But on the other hand, in terms of trying to get through the deportation, there's going to be a lot of backseat negotiations going on with the far-left progressives, otherwise known as the communists. And that's going to be a key there. The question, the problem is, is the fact that we don't have really as many people going into the Biden administration, and this is coming in from people I stayed in touch with, coming into things such as programming, because they're all going into bisexual studies.

That could be. There's a lot in this. This takes me to the F1 student visa program. Now, I don't know if you read Revolver News, but I caught an article there over the weekend that I thought was pretty interesting. And they were talking about the F1 visa program, and that's why I brought that up to the doctor,

and he agreed it's also a problem. But I wasn't even familiar with this F1 student visa program. It was intended for education, Revolver reports, but it has morphed into a system that actively hurts American college graduates. Many schools exploit the system by offering minimal or no real education, letting foreign students qualify for the government's optional practical training program. This is something called OPT. OPT allows these students to work full-time jobs under the guise of being quote-unquote students,

and it gives employers massive tax breaks, up to $12,000 per year per worker, for hiring these foreign students over equally or more qualified Americans. That's an amazing incentive to not hire American graduates there. I would have more objections on the F-1 visa rather than the one that's more technical for companies because you can put different criteria in, because I think that we're going to have, you know, FBI, for example, and others are going to be more up to the job than the ones that Biden had chasing down,

you know, parents at Board of Education meetings. The problem with the F-1 visa is that it should be in language training programs. And the thing about it, though, is that here you have a situation, my friend, where it looks good on paper, you know, full-time enrollment funded by personal funds, you know, a language training program. But the thing is, is that once, you know, you've got to have the deep state. The problem is with the deep state is that if they're not even in the office, we got to get rid of the Department of Education. We got to get, because I saw the the biasness that came in at SOU on accreditation visits. They came in because then they would bring up these questions of,

no, what are you doing about diversity? Although they would never really talk about it that way, but you really got the message, and I was on those committees. Yeah, well, I would dare say that even though there's talk that I've noticed that a lot of big banks and big money types are now backing away from the DEI programs, like the proverbial Georgia mule. I don't see that coming into the educational system right now, because the educational system is owned lock, stock, and barrel by the true believers.

Would that be a fair assessment of where we find ourselves right now? Yeah, and you're absolutely right to point out the two different demographics, because Biden put pressure on saying, hey, you want a government contract? We got a program for you, CDI, which is racist in nature by the king of racism being Obama. On the other side, we have the Board of Education, the Department of Education, and these that come in on another side, which is the teachers and teaching of different curriculums. So there's a lot that needs to be done. We really missed a bullet, a second assassin's bullet. And what Biden is doing now just shows you how nuts he is,

because whether it's going ahead with, you know, saying that no new drilling in 625 million acres. Yeah, but Trump can get rid of that like the moment he gets in, right? He can do that with just another executive order. If Joe puts it up there with an executive order, Trump can destroy it, right? I agree. You know, but on the other hand, this is being done for as the way the far left looks at problems for America as being just a PR issue. We take a look at the one that Biden put into effect as an executive order. And actually, it was legislation that came in in November by people who were trying to go ahead and get reelected in Congress, public workers that also receive a pension,

plus some Social Security, now can get a lot more Social Security. You know, it's absolutely one of those ones to where whatever he can do to try to look at it. Now the communists are looking at 2028 with what they're doing now just because the fact that they look at it as a PR problem. And my friend, when Schumer goes ahead and talks about, well, we made some mistakes, when you read what the guy said, it had to do, we got to talk more. No, it's not about changing. The far left progressives are frightened as heck about the far left. Well, let them stay frightened, I guess, is what I would say.

But you know, my friend, they cave into them them that's what's gavin they just cave in and so it's it's a nation virus that's going in but on the f1 visa uh it's supposed to be a non-immigrant visa that allows foreign students to study full-time in the u.s but yes it does seem that the OPT deal gets them staying here as workers. And so you can just continue to, well, you're still a student, but you're taking, you know, not particularly rigorous classes to maintain your work visa, in essence, is what you're doing. Plus that $12,000 a year tax credit, that's huge incentive, isn't it? My goodness, if you're a business person. I like these arguments that are coming in. On the other hand, I have a slightly different take, because unless you get rid of the deep state,

who does not, don't care about these things, and they just stamp approval, let them in, and this is where one of the big executive orders that Trump is going to try to put is to get these guys and women coming back into work instead of sitting at home watching Oprah. All right. Dr. Dennis Powers here, a retired professor of business law. Hey, let's talk a little bit of local history here in just a second, Doc. All right. We always do that as we get into a new year. And there's a lot of nonprofits, but we're going to talk about a nonprofit you say has done some pretty good work. And we'll have that as we get into a new year and there's a lot of non-profits

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years ago to the Carpenter brothers, three of them, orchard boom, 1900s, came in. This is when Medford, even if inland, really stood out because you had well-educated Easterners and Midwesterners that came to Medford. It's really astounding how much the orchard revolution or the orchard boom ended up changing the culture in Southern Oregon. Would that be a fair way of looking at that? Can't be overestimated? Absolutely right, Bill. It really was very positive when you look at all the different buildings and different improvements that were made, you know, all the way from delivering water, you know, to the Carnegie Library. But what really stood out was the fact that you had this social connection to where Medford, with its orchards, really resonated with the East and the Midwest. And so these families were sending their grown adult sons and daughters out here. So anyway, and here the Carpenter

brothers, three of them, planted a pear orchard with a draft horse team. But we can fast forward to where you had Alfred or Alfie. There's Alfred and there was Leonard and Dunbar. But anyway, Alfie went on a cruise about 10 years later, and he met and fell in love with Helen Bundy. And they were married in Cairo in 1922. What was interesting here is Helen's father, an actual Harlow Bundy, and I thought to myself when I first came across this now what i know that that name they own the important patents for punch clocks and the bundy time machine became ibm oh helen oh okay small world right that was the key It was IBM, and they were the owners now of very valuable stocks, so they came back here. They had a very large home that was eight fireplaces, English Tudor Revival that they named Top Sides.

They even had movies filmed there that was near Jacksonville and Old Stage Road. Then World War II comes in, and the Carpenters are using their private funds to help with the entertainment at nearby Camp White. And the building that the University Club is in right now in Medford next to the Holly Theater, which is very close to being completely renovated and open for business was then used. And then they, being the Carpenters, my friend, donated this to the University Club. So we keep going further. Meanwhile, they're going ahead, and they, being the Carpenters, are making all these various scholarships so that worthy students could attend college. And then in 1958, it became the Carpenter Foundation, the entity that they'd set up. And off they went. And that's where we got the Rogue Valley Medical Center that came in, because the Carpenter Foundation,

with others, would lead the fundraising that came in with this municipal-owned hospital that now is Asante. But we continued through, and what happens then is you get public trustees added. But the key thing, the key thing, my friend, is the fact that it was funded way back then in the 1950s with $1 million. How big is it now? $20 million, plus they have been donating as much as $850,000 a year, every year, 100 different grants to this. And so I think about the DEI folks and about all the conditions put on government funding. Here we have what forward-thinking individuals do when they're not underneath the yoke of Bidenism or Obamaism. And the other thing that really stood out is that they, being the Carpenter Foundation, if you look at their website, my friend, you see all the different areas, regardless of politics, that they're like clockwork, for the development of faculty

programs having to do with research so that teachers, and I was in charge of that committee, and we would have really great proposals as to what teachers wanted to do to stay on top of their profession, not just sitting at home going ahead and saying, well, I've got to go to class again. These are the teachers that I knew, and they really are the backbone of SOU. Dr. Dennis Powers, retired professor of business law. You had mentioned earlier about the connections between Carpenter and, of course, RVMC at that time, now known as Asante RRMC. I wanted to ask you a question about, and this has to do with a rumor that I'm hearing.

I haven't been able to get anything kind of confirmed, and I don't really bring up rumors, but I'm hearing enough buzz about this behind the scenes, and I thought maybe you would have heard something. But it has to do with what the current makeup of Asante is with the challenges they're facing with the drug diversion lawsuits. I'm sure you've been keeping an eye on that situation, haven't you? Yeah. Yes, unfortunately. Yeah. I had a pretty good source, I haven't been able to get this confirmed, but saying that Asante with these lawsuits has run up against the limitation

or the limits of the business insurance or the liability insurance. And if that is true or if that were to be true, what does that do in the real world? Does that get them looking for another partner to take them over? And I'm just kind of curious how that might affect things. You being a professor of business law, I think you would have a keen insight here. That's really, Bill, a really multi-edged question. You're right. The first question is the extent of this liability.

And that is, of course, going to be controversial. Because there are so many lawsuits, so many lawsuits, and it's kind of like a death by a thousand cuts, you know, is kind of what I was wondering. Well, that's the problem, because these are class action lawsuits. I mean, this is going into loss of consortium, which is, you know, a nice word I learned decades ago, which just has to do with the fact that if you, for example, were injured because of someone else's negligence, like they took the fentanyl away from you for pain, and you had a horrible time, that your wife then could also be part of the damages in the lawsuit. So you have this multiplicity that's going through. So the negotiations on the first point, my friend, is going to have to do with the insurance company. The second thing is that when this gets in, because you have the legal fees that it in,

because the personal injury attorneys swim in like piranha, and they do because they smell blood and they're there. What will happen to Asante, which is the other question? Well, the problem is, is we're seeing this in a small region. Providence is going to be undergoing a strike where they're pleading with their doctors not going to strike. Yeah, I noticed this because, and I haven't heard much about the Asante world, and I can't help but think that there are major stresses underneath the, you know, bubbling underneath the surfaces of both of our major medical systems here in Southern Oregon. And that's a big deal. And I don't hear a lot of conversation about that other than, oh, it's a strike.

And, you know, no, this is like the biggest strike ever, you know in our state, when it comes to the medical world. That's true. And as an investigative reporter, it's very difficult to get any of that information because on advice of their attorneys that they have in place, you don't want to make any comments that the Piranha PI attorneys can pick up and bring in as part of their PR. And you'll find now, you'll come up with a question in the deposition. The question then is, is that this goes all the way back to Obamacare. People say, oh, wait a minute, where is he getting that? Well, I happen to be on the Ashton Community Foundation Board, the hospital foundation board, and knew the

people that are on that board before Asante came in. And took that over, yeah. When Obamacare, when Obama came through, and Obama was really the one that Nostradamus was warning about before he was able to bring in his buddy Biden, the problems that were happening in the hospitals then, what, two decades ago, were coming into where that's why the Ashland Hospital had to find a merger partner, because Obamacare was nailing the hospitals even then. And that is still continuing. And now I wonder, though, if then the merger mania will come with the Asante people, you know, that kind of thing. Well, and I don't. And the other thing. okay, let me just ask as a matter of law. Let's say – because right from the beginning I was concerned about these lawsuits thing because it could be an existential threat to the ability to be a continuing business model, right?

Anybody with enough that comes in there. Now, I'm not assuming that everybody gets paid off, right? But there's a lot of smoke. I think we can all kind of, I mean, could, can you bankrupt a corporation out of legal, out of legal judgments or not? You know? Well, see, you can, yes, legally. But practically, you just can't do that. You can't, okay. Practically, it's going to be a long-term situation as this plays out legally. Meanwhile, the PR attorneys are swimming in like piranhas. I've used that word because I've seen it.

And I would imagine that a lot of this is probably trying to get some form of settlement before. I mean, I don't think anybody really wants to go to trial, do they, honestly? Do they really want to go to trial? Yeah, well, you see, it depends on how much money is ponying up. I've been in those discussions where it's just a question which is going to just shock you, is why you're discussing and arguing about the poor widow who has been hurt by this. Meanwhile, you'll have someone that pipes up, well, before we make the settlement, how much are you going to give the attorneys? That is part of the settlement discussions.

And the thing that worries me is the fact that it's the morale in these hospitals. These are really good people. They're doing their best. And so if your listeners are going ahead, give a compliment to them when you get a good treatment or if something comes through and works for you. Yeah. Because this is something to where, why? Well, my friend, what it is, is that this is what the far left wants,

to take over medical and be able to have you come to a government-run hospital. That's what I was just thinking. What a better way to, you know, you overload the system, overstress the system, bring it down, man, cloward, pivot, the whole thing, between labor problems, between lawsuit problems and everything else. I mean, you could see it. You could see it. And they don't care.

Yeah. Hey, Doc, can you hang on? Of course, you don't have people that come in and say they do. Hey, Doc, after the break, could you give me a quick take when we get back after news? And Juan Marchand and the sentencing of President Trump. Isn't that going to be like, I think it's a week from today, right?

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George Soros getting awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. And it's a picture, obviously photoshopped, of Joe Biden handing the emperor from Star Wars the medal. Yeah, it's funny, but it's not, right? I appreciate the email. Email bill at billmyershow.com. All right. In spite of everything good which is coming up, vote will be certified today, the 20th, hopefully a nice smooth transition. But then the real work comes to play.

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Happy New Year. Al, you wanted to talk about that George Soros award that the president gave him on the weekend. There were a number of distinguished recipients, George Soros and Hillary Clinton among them, who received the order of the golden diaper this weekend. The golden diaper. It doesn't look like that, but you could be right. It could be on the plaque. I can't really read the plaque on the picture that I received of the two. Could be. Could be there. Honestly,

going forward, who would want to receive that honor now? It's just like the Nobel Peace Prize. It's worthless now after certain people have received it over the years. Yeah, after President Obama ended up getting a Nobel Prize for having accomplished

nothing prior to it didn't yasser arafat get one too it just seems like there's there's been a number of people that got received it just makes it meaningless yeah darn straight thanks for the call there al 7705633 dr powers great to have you back on here i imagine you weren't real uh i know were you surprised and none of us i think we're thrilled to see the likes of the globalist, bloodthirsty globalist George getting a presidential medal of freedom. But I can't exactly say I'm surprised. Were you? No, I wasn't surprised. I was disgusted. is doing now is just lip reading from the teleprompter as the Obama folks and the Clinton folks are making all the decisions. It's the oligarchs. And you're right. It's unbelievable

all the way through. So let's talk about let's talk about one of our Democratic. Yeah, let's talk about one of our major points of irritation. That would be Judge Juan Marchand. All right. And the story broke on Friday that he is going to sentence President Trump before he's inaugurated. What do you know? You know, not surprised. Disgusted. Reason is the fact that Marchand knows that there are more legal I's and T's that come down if he waited until give any type of punishment that he really is watching the law because he's seen this from beginning to end. The Trump folks have gone ahead and made an appeal on the sentencing.

It's politics as usual underneath Obama, Clinton and Kerry. It's thank goodness we have this election that went the way it did. Is it symbolic more than anything else, what Marshawn's trying to do here, or not? Oh, yes, because you see, really, the odds are, from those who know, the legal experts that I've talked to, have said that the odds are very high that this whole case will be thrown out because it's ticky-tack to go all the way back to where they took a misdemeanor and made it into a felony. The inner action between the Biden-Obama White House and Marchand, all these things are going to happen. So we have a situation that's just part of the fact that the country looked the other way from the drive-by media. And you're right. It's all the things that they can do, being Obama, Clinton, Biden, who said, you know, do what you want.

And he probably used that term too a little bit of that barney rubble sound i love it all right okay well so we'll set that aside then before we take off though i had to get your legal opinion once again retired professor of business law and there is nothing like um well there is nothing like, well, there's nothing like a Native American tribe wanting to open up a casino in Medford that seems to just stir the imagination and get other tribes really upset. And this is what we're dealing with right now. Of course, Coquille is trying to get another gaming casino here in Medford. That's the one, the old bowling alley in that particular area. And we have other tribes that are now weighing in on this. Now, ultimately, the Bureau of Indian Affairs makes the final decision. But I would imagine that there is influence being brought

to bear by state, and they probably look at what states are looking and how they would approve or disapprove of it. Would that be a fair assessment of where we are right now? Yes, it is. And you see, Tina is... Oh, you're on a first-name basis. Good, good. Glad to know. Well, I don't want to call her by her last name because I'd probably make it into a swear word. But the point is, is that my friend Tina requested an extension from the Bureau of Indian Affairs to put this off because this is another political decision that came down after the election by our corrupt Biden administration. And the corruptness that shows the point that you made, which was so well taken, it's a question of how many of these tribes are able to donate

how much money as part of the PR to go ahead for their position in this state. Now, this has been, you know, the way I've looked at it, taking a look at the Orstar accounts, those are the accounts that you see in the state of Oregon and how donations end up getting distributed and donated for political purposes. Tribal influence is huge in the state of Oregon, is it not? It's not just the Coquille either. Just a lot of money comes out of the tribes and goes into state political coffers. Absolutely. That's an excellent point, and you're right.

I mean, we'll take the Siletz tribe, which is now controlling Table Rocks, they want to get one being a casino in Salem. They're already operating one in Lincoln City. Now, so Siletz wants one in Salem, and yet they bought a lot of private land near the Table Rock and the Rogue River. Could this be one of those things where you end up currying favor by locking up that land? Because they're talking about using it to preserve, right? Preserve the land, which, of course, is like Mata from heaven to the gangrenes on the left that control Oregon up there. What do you think? Well, to the gangrenes on the left, it'd be nice if the Silas tribe did a fundraiser, but no, this was where the, I think it was, if it wasn't the Bureau of Indian Affairs, it was another agency,

actually put up the money so that this land before then could be transferred, and then they just made an administrative decree. No, this shows the corruption of Washington and Salem in terms of the rest of us, what's right for the rest of us. There's a solely in the wind. You know, it would be really nice to have our tax dollars not being plundered from us and then also being used then to lock up land and resources from us. But that's just me. I know I'm being a little silly, and I'm sorry to be that.

But you just get that feeling like everywhere you look, there's just another racket. Do you ever get that way, Doc, when you look at the news? Oh, okay, here's the other racket that's in play right now. With all the jokes about how you can tell when a politician is lying when their lips start moving. And you're right. Yeah. All right. All the way through.

So as we take off, then you don't think there's going to be any issue. I don't think there's going to be any problem getting a vote certification today. We know that. Because it's too darn cold for Antifa to show up. It's just an ice storm in D.C. So we're not going to see any issues with that going on. That's good. And then next, well, we've got an inauguration in about 13, 14 days. And do you think that it was good to have had Mike Johnson voted in again as Speaker on Friday? There was a lot of concern that this would have gone into some chaos, but you see it. I'll give you the final word.

Yes, I am. And part of the thing is the way that the drive-by media raises the same problems that it reports on in terms of Mike Johnson. I mean, you had 216 on the first vote that were voting for him and then only had to get the two to come in to go ahead and make it 218. You know, Bill, the problem is, is that we have a country that has been run, starting from Obama, attacked Trump, got his henchman Biden in so he could run it. And you have the media right now that is jump still in line all the times, all these. It's still a fight because they're still doing they're still going ahead and saying, we love Obama. We love Biden. We love him. Yeah. Don't don't think that it's going to be a mild next four years, four years. It's going to be got to keep the fight. Yeah. It's going to be a battle to four years. No, we've got to keep the fight. Yeah, it's going to be a battle to the death on this one, you know.

All right, Doc, we'll talk next Monday, all right? Be well. Thanks again. Always a pleasure. Be well. Be safe, my friend. Dr. Dennis Power is a retired professor of business law. If your home computer has issues, call Tech Nomad.

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Commissioners sworn into the courthouse, 8.30. Mayor and council members being sworn in at 11.45 in council chambers. Boy, that's going to be an interesting time here with a brand new city council. They're pretty activist here. Electoral votes for the general election counted at 10 o'clock our time. We'll be watching at Republican Party headquarters. Thank you for the report there, Holly. And we'll talk more about these various issues tomorrow.

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