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Conspiracy Theory Thursday open phones for the hour, RFK and the vaccine changes and the food pyramid, your calls, Venezuela, it is all in there.

The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. It is Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Open phones 770KMED. We're going to talk with Dr. Sal Georgiani about 20, 25 minutes or so, about the new RFK Jr., all the RFK Jr. changes, which have been going on this week.

There's been the vaccine change, the vaccine recommendation, which of course, course, the state of Oregon, what is it, that West Coast alliance they're part of, the West Coast cabal of states. Of course, they're saying any changes in the childhood vaccine and children will die. You know how that goes. Just the way they come up with their policy and that RFK Jr. is not a man of science. Maybe a man of political science. We'll be talking about that. And also the changes to the food pyramid. Now, a lot of folks don't realize, I don't even know if Dr. Sal will know about this coming up, that a lot of times the food pyramid back in the day was created to help, well, at the behest of the Midwest corn and grain farmers.

The farmers like to grow a lot of grains, so what's the best thing? We know we don't want you eating meat and fats and things like that. We would much prefer you eating grains and breakfast cereal. I have had breakfast cereal, and I can't tell you how long or not. but this has been changed. In fact, the pyramid has almost been inverted, and so at the top of the pyramid, proteins. And when we're talking about protein,

we're not talking about just taking a whole bunch of soy and shoving it into young men so they get man boobs. Okay, that's not what RFK Jr. is talking about, actual real protein, meat, cheese, dairy, and when you're going to go with dairy, full fat? think of all the propaganda that we have put up with all these years. I'm old enough to remember in the dark days of the 1970s and the 1980s. Remember everything was about margarine?

Marjorin, it's healthier for you. Promise? Remember, anybody remember the promise margarine? Yeah, I promise, oh, it's healthier. It'll lower your cholesterol, all the rest of the sort of stuff. Yeah, just a bunch of hydrogenated seed oil. hydrogenated inflammatory seed oil and we Americans have been eating it up

like crazy for a long, long time yeah and then, okay, so we eat inflammatory seed oils and fats instead of lard and then what do you do? Oh yeah, then take statins, statins to lower cholesterol and the cholesterol of course

is high cost of the inflammation. It's all sorts of things going on. But I find it fascinating. And what an interesting change. And I would imagine that processed food, ink, is not happy about this whatsoever. Because the average American diet, and this is the sad part, 70% highly processed food. Is it any wonder that there are as many problems as there are right now?

RFK Jr. you're talking about something that I've been advocating for a long, long time, making more food at home, making it. And by the way, making food at home doesn't mean opening boxes. I mean really making food. Making food at home does not mean opening up a box of hamburger helper. You know what I'm getting at? That sort of thing. That is not making food at home. You might be cooking it inside your home, but it's not making food.

And if this is a change, if this ends up leading to a better change for Americans' health in the near future or over a period of time getting people to actually cook more and not do the door dash to that same extent, maybe a little bit less of the fast food. I don't think we're going to be going to stop having fast food. And nor would I advocate that. I'm not claiming that. But we eat a lot differently than I did when I was growing up. I bet it was for you too.

No. Of course, if you really want to talk about how vintage you are, does anybody remember having taken diet Pepsi or Diet Cola with cyclomates in it? Remember cyclomates? Boy, that stuff was nice and sweet. Minor thing caused cancer. but, you know, you got to take the bad with the good, I suppose. They banned it, okay.

And then, of course, oh, don't forget the other thing that we have to go down on, red dye. Oh, how many times, how many times we'd hear about red dye? Well, we don't want to do red dye, hyperactivity, blah, blah, blah, yeah, anyway. We'll be talking about that. Another question I have for you this morning, if you have an opinion on the ICE agent shooting yesterday. It was a good shoot, bad shoot, somewhere in between. What would you like to have seen done differently if at all possible? Needless to say, the Democratic hive mind will paint it as.

Fascism. Fascism. Speaking of fascism, I was reading an article in the Roe Valley Times last night. I commented on it on Facebook briefly, and I took it down. I said, no, I'll just talk about it. Because I did make a mistake at first because I was talking about this Jackson County man. And Damian Mann writes about this. Jackson County Man has filed a federal lawsuit

alleging his civil rights violated when he was removed from an Ashland City Council meeting in September. He was calling police policies fascist. It's Torne McKnight. Torne McKnight, saying that his First Amendment rights were violated by the city of Ashland, Mayor Graham, Ashland Police Chief O'Mara, Ashland Police Sergeant Rob Leonard. Rob, by the way, excellent police officer, in my opinion,

because he's my nephew, so I know him. but I just wanted to make sure that was open about that. Rob, I hope everything's okay with this one. But they're asking for compensatory and punitive damages. It was a September 16th meeting and during his comments to the council, McKnight. This was about they were arguing on what to do with the island of homeless humans. And they wanted to do, police department wanted to do the exclusion zones to keep the drunk disorderly and raiding homeless out of certain areas of downtown Ashland.

and Mcnight's not a big fan of that, apparently. And during his comments, he said, Our country is currently in the middle of a fascist takeover. And according to the lawsuit, McNight saying the, he told the counsel that O'Meara was backpedaling on following the Medford model. Because he knows it makes him look like a fascist, which he is.

And so it went on and on. And so Ashland has a rule that you're not supposed to do personal attacks on it. And McKnight, according to the story, and, you know, kept making it personal with Chief O'Mara. And so they asked him to leave. And then he kept yelling about it even if he sat down, calling him a fascist and this and that and the other. So he's suing over this.

And I don't know how this is going to go because Oregon does have rules that says if you're disruptive and you're shouting out that you can be asked to leave. That is in Oregon law, an open public meeting laws. So I don't know where this is going to go. I really don't. The part that I did find interesting is that in all the coverage that I was reading about this McKnight fella is that he's right there on the screen and he has an anarchist, an anarchist t-shirt on. So we have a guy who doesn't believe in any government whatsoever, no authority going in there saying, hey, I'm going to tell you what your authoritative shall be.

I just find that kind of ironic, right? you know, the anarchist. At first, I thought that it was Antifa. I thought it was Antifa at first because I'm looking at the A, and then I was corrected by a woman online yesterday, and it's okay, all right, well, I'll just talk about it tomorrow. So it wasn't Antifa. But the thing is, though, is that everywhere I was going, I would look up that A logo, and I was seeing the A next to the Antifa flags. It's like they were fellow travelers, and so I was wondering, is there any connection? Now, I'm not saying that there is necessarily. in this particular case, but it's an easy mistake to make because I was looking in here,

doing some research, and now I'm finding out, and I don't really investigate Antifa a lot, but it says, anarchism is one of Antifa's ideological roots. And they're saying that anarchism, in other words, not wanting any governmental authority is one of the core beliefs of many Antifa members. So it's kind of like many anarchists are Antifa, but not all Antifa members are anarchists. I thought that was interesting. But nobody mentioned it. It's like, you know, you got the guy with the, you know, the logo on his shirt,

and there was never any mention of what that possible political orientation might have had. But we'll see where that lawsuit goes. I don't know if you have an opinion on that either, but I'm happy to take your call. 770KM.E. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. And good morning. You're up first. Who's this?

Welcome. Hey, Bill. Matt. Matt. How you doing, buddy? I'm good. I don't have a conspiracy theory for it, but the first thing I wanted to say is that was a great interview with the energy guy. Oh, good. I'm glad you liked that, Jason Isaac. You bet. I learned some stuff. And I think any time you can have a guest on speaking on, because energy is at the root of everything, right? Even the atom.

Yep. The whole world, you know, everything in the world is built upon the atom. Energy is everything. And anytime you can learn a little bit about the importance of energy, where energy comes from, how we use energy to produce things that you and I need every day. That's a great interview. I mean, we can have all of these Ashland High School kids going out there, and frankly, Grants Pass high school kids that are going, get rid of oil, we're killing the planet, et cetera, et cetera.

And there's a time when I see these kids doing it because they've been inculcated from the day they went into government school. I would just love to wave a magic wand and have absolutely everything. everything vanish from their life that is connected with actual real energy production. They would be naked, cold, and their cell phones would be gone, you know? Did you imagine they have their cell phone? They're in one hand, and all of a sudden, dip. And now they'll look on their face when everybody's phone goes away. Yeah.

And then also being naked because a lot of their clothing goes away, too. No shoes, no rubber, no nothing, you know? Listen, it is everything because it's not just, it's even cotton. Because how do you get cotton into a, you know, to a factory to manufacture pants and shirts? Diesel, that's how. Everything, right? Yeah. Well, that was one of things I learned this morning about, you know, the diesel prices are still very high.

Yes. I think diesel prices are still high, too, especially because we don't have the simpler diesel fuels now. everything is the ultra-low diesel, ultra-low sulfur fuel. In fact, I even put an additive in that vanigan of mine because it's an old diesel, old-fashioned diesel, just to make sure that the pump still gets lubricated and stuff because, you know, the sulfur, ultra-low sulfur is not real good for my car. You probably put that additive in there, too, don't you? Yeah, I do.

I do put an additive in there to make up for what modern diesel lacks. Now, I know that all the big modern Dodge trucks and the Rams and everything else, yeah, they require that. But they require it because of all the, what do they call that, the Dief, you know, the Dief tank, the Dief injection, that Eurea injection that all the modern diesels have that I don't have to bother with. I love that. That's right. That's right. The newer ones have a big problem. Well, listen, the other thing I called about, and this is a call back to our childhood, don't you remember when they were to advertise cereal that they would say,

part of the nutritious breakfast? Absolutely. Sure do. And then if you look on the side of the box, because I was one of those kids who would sit and eat my cereal and look at the box. Me too. I'd always read all the stats on it. What did you find out? Well, my thing was just looking at the picture on the side. It would have the bowl of cereal, and then it would have a plus sign, and it would have, like,

a couple of pieces of bacon, then a plus sign that would have an egg, and then a plus sign that would have orange juice. And it, I mean, this is long overdue. And I have to say, you drive me crazy with those commercials from Diner 62 talking about those breakfasts every morning. They are very tasty, I must say. Well, I'm laughing because you were like, oh, I haven't eaten cereal in years. And I'm like, well, that's because you got Diner 62. Well, you know, I tend to do more of egg-y-type breakfast, you know, that sort of thing.

Sometimes I'll have a sandwich, but I like eggs for breakfast. I ditched breakfast cereal, gosh, I want to say probably 20, 25 years ago, maybe even longer back than that. What about you? Do you still eat breakfast cereal? You know what? I actually eat one kind. I won't advertise, but I eat one kind and I eat it maybe twice a week. But I have, I put it in like a mug, and I have like a mug of it and that's about it.

But no, typically me and my wife, my daughter, we get it up. Everybody's having eggs as much. Good. And frankly, everybody was telling you, oh, that's bad. add, first the cholesterol is going to kill you, then it's like, oh, it's healthy and, oh, it's going to kill you. Well, now JF, or RFK Jr., though, saying that it's a much healthier choice, and I think it is. Now, if you're going to have the bacon, the processed to bacon, the highly processed bacon,

maybe not the healthiest choice. I mean, within reason, but still, hey, bacon's like a great food group as far as I'm concerned. It is, and actually, I prefer just getting ham and cooking it in a pan. and putting like a half a piece of ham and just throwing it in there and cooking it up. I like bacon because bacon makes everything better. But sometimes it's like, for me, it does something to me, just like the fat in it and stuff. It's just, I don't know, it makes me feel weird to have that much,

but I do love ham. I'm definitely a pork guy. The other thing I will add is that there has been a rise of uncured hams that you can buy in the story. It didn't used to be much available. Everything was just highly, highly processed. Lots of sodium nitrate, sodium nitrite. But there's been a demand from people, you know, still wanting to have ham, but wanting something a little more health conscious.

And so you get something a little bit uncured, a little less salt, little less of the other stuff that cause problems for some people. Do you have a brand? I mean, is it sold like in Safeway, Albertson, that kind of stuff? Oh, gosh, I find uncured ham in all sorts of different. I found in the shirms, I found it in Freddy's, I found it in Winco. You could always find some of it. You just have to look a little bit and just look for an uncured ham. I'm going to have my wife check that out.

Yeah, yeah, because there is evidence that the sodium nitrates and nitrites are somewhat inflammatory and not the best stuff, but that is needed in your typical ham cure. Honestly, I can't eat sausage. It's kind of like bacon in a way. just as good as it tastes, I don't know what it does. I can't put my finger on it, but I just don't feel great after I eat it. Yeah, well, you have to respond to that. And I don't think everybody's digestive system is the same either. And so I know that RFK Jr. is going to be focusing on the protein, and that's certainly a good thing. Nothing wrong with that. But did you ever

read a book called The Blood Type Diet? Did you ever see that? I didn't, but I have a friend of mine. It's like his Bible. Yeah. I read that book years and years and years ago, and it talked about how the different blood types that we have have somewhat different nutritional needs. And a lot of this is due to blood types kind of having evolved, you know, sometimes under different, well, typo as an example. I'm O negative. What type are you, do you know, off of your head? I really don't know. Okay. Well, I'm typo, a typo negative universal donor. I can only get typo. blood, oh negative, if someone that needs to give it to me, but I can give my blood to anybody else, okay? And so that part's really cool. Now, the thing is, though, they say typo blood is the oldest blood that's the hunter-gatherer blood, and we're the ones that are supposed to do much better on the RFK Jr. Pyramid. We're talking fat, meat, protein, heavy duty, and really do your

best to stay away from the carbs. Not to get too personal on it, but do you find that if you veer away from that, like if you eat too much grain, that you feel bloated? Yes, I do. You know what? I guess I should really look into this. That should be like a thing for me to do it in the next week or two because I find the same thing. You know, when you're younger, you can eat anything. But like if I eat wheat bread these days, I get heartburned in like 10 minutes.

Yeah. I can't eat wheat bread. I can eat sourdough and that's about it. No kidding. I appreciate you sharing. that. Matt, always a delight to hear from you. I've got to move along, but thank you for the time, okay? Be well. 770KMED. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. We'll be talking more with Dr. Georgiani here in just a little bit about that food pyramid thing. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

This is Minor Dave. Hi, Dave. Yeah, what my conspiracy is, is when they got Monduro, they got his Bitcoin of like, 500 million dollars worth of Bitcoin. Oh, I hadn't thought about crypto's being possessed by the dictator. Huh? Okay. That's interesting. Yeah.

And then they found all their accounts with all their money where it all went. And there's going to be a lot of people in trouble here in the United States. We'll see if you're right about that, Dave. Appreciate the call. Let me grab another one before news. morning, who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill, it's wild salmon. Steve, what are you thinking this conspiracy theory Thursday?

Well, it's very interesting the talk you're having about food. Yes. And I would like to add something to that conversation that as we age, our bodies change and our lifestyles change, and you need different components to make it and protein is a huge requirement for older people. And as you get older, you eat less because you're moving less. If you continue to eat the same amount, you're going to gain weight dramatically. But protein is a real challenge for someone in close to their 80s. I can tell you that. Yeah, I imagine so. What are my concerns, though, is when they talk about high protein that a lot of

people translate that, oh, I need lots of protein soy powder. Soy is some of the worst stuff that I'm reading that guys could be ingesting ever. Yeah. Well, I am taking a supplement of protein powder, but it's lactose powder. Okay. Not powder, actually, a liquid. Yeah. Just trying to keep your body functioning, you need more protein than you can actually eat as far as carbs go,

or as, you know, what you need to maintain your body with you. Yeah, our challenge, though, is we all know is that those processed carbs, they're tasty, aren't they? You've got to love them. Well, yeah, but as you age, those things weigh on you. And that is intentionally a joke. But, you know, you think that this wouldn't be all that controversial when RFK Jr. comes out with this because, you know, back when, back in the 1950s for crying out loud, they knew that what was the diet plate in the restaurant when you asked for the diet plate? What did they give

you, wild salmon? Salad. Well, they gave you, no, it wasn't salad. It was usually, well, it could have been salad, but it was salad with a hamburger patty, no bun, remember? Oh, yes, that's true. That's true. Yeah, yeah. Thanks for the call, Steve. Good to hear from you, all right? And yep, we need the protein and keep the carbs down as much as possible. This is the Bill Myers show. Dr. Sal Georgiiani joins me in a bit. Are you turning 65? Perioki. Everyone says my voice is stellar and my range is in. If you call Fontana Roofing right now for a quote,

we promise to shove the homemade jingle idea. Visit fontanarupineservice.com. The Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Hey, Larry, you wanted to weigh in from Grants Pass on the protein need as you get older, but you wanted to clarify what other people were saying, huh? Go ahead. Well, I'm not necessarily clarified, just, you know, potentially you had to. I've been pretty up close and personal to nutrition and health and such for the majority of my life.

And anyway, I'm coming to conclude and seeing applied to, you know, individuals. Protein is a huge, huge importance to all stages of life. And, again, not a doctor, not going to make claims, but, And my observation, my own personal experience, you would be pretty darn hard pressed to eat too much protein or eat enough protein that is going to be stored as body fat. And again, that would be at about any stage in life. As you know, Bill, I mean, I know, if you get, give a take, we get older, and yes, those carbs you talk about are much more convenient to grab and your sofas, lasagnas, and costal insulators. and the kind of, and postulential order would be better than a big-name TV dinner. Yeah, sure.

You know, when it does come to the carbs, though, I think there are some different aspects of carbohydrates. And I'll talk with Dr. Yeah, because I will tell you that when I eat standard American pasta, I get bloated and unhappy. And when I have organic pasta, which is non-GMO, I don't know if the non-GMO is an aspect of it, but it does not use, they don't use glyphosates to harvest that. It has nothing to do with that because they'll spray it on wheat in America, and that kills it and dries it, and that's part of the process. And it's different because you'll notice they eat tons of pasta in Italy,

and they don't get fat. They don't. Well, again, you talk about, you know, your organic, we talk about your pesticide trees. Those are, you know, those are completely different rabbit holes and topics to talk about. Yeah. I would recommend, and if I was, you know, sitting down and you and you're saying, you know, they're just thinking you get rid of whatever it is or whatever it is,

but I want to get rid of them off of whatever part of my body. And again, about spot training, a whole other deal. But the simple fact is you're better off to eat sweet potatoes, even white potatoes, yellow potato. I mean, pasta show that there's a pasta show that there's a pasta. to hash pasta. You know, we look at Mother Earth. We look at our ancestors.

You know, yeah, they won't live into 80 and 90s breathing off of a breathing machine. Yeah, yeah. Hey, I appreciate your call. Your phone's cutting out on me a little bit, a little monthly, but Larry, I appreciate you sharing your thought on that, okay? 737. Hold the calls here for just a moment. Dr. Sal will join me after news, and then we'll dig more into these topics.

I think it's fascinating, Conspiracy Theory Thursday or other days. If you're remodeling your house, stuck in at Glacierhacac.com. Hi, I'm Steve Potter, body shop manager of Lithuobody and paint, and I'm on KMED. Like we were mentioning over the last a half hour or so of conversations, big changes in the food pyramid and also vaccine recommendations coming from the CDC, RFK Jr. in the news a lot this week. And I wanted to run this past Dr. Sal Georgiani Jr., FarmD, Senior Science Advisor, to the Men's Health Network. He's also a past chair and chair emeritus of the American Public Health Association,

former Alumni Association Board member of Columbia University School of Public Health. Gosh, a 40-plus year career in health. Isn't that right, doctor? Welcome to the show. Good morning. Good morning. It seems more like 80 these days. It's been a very fast couple of decades.

I imagine so. Did you ever think that you would see? Why don't we talk about the vaccine changes first, if you don't mind me? out here on the West Coast, our states are part of the West Coast Health Alliance, and one of the things that they have done is that they're still saying that they're going to insist on keeping the old CDC recommendations and that the new CDC recommendations are not based on science. Do you believe that or do you agree with that take on the West Coast Health Alliance? Yeah, I think states should have the opportunity to weigh in on.

what they feel is important for their population. Don't forget the federal government covers the entire United States and territories. So it's very difficult when you're making recommendations based on a 350 million person population spread out over 100 of millions of miles to get it right for everybody. And it's true for medicine just as in most things in life, one size just doesn't fit all. So I think, you know, folks in different states have views and perspectives. both sociologically and epidemiology. Epidemiology.

I think that states, as I write, I think one of the changes I saw, which I think is very positive, is that patients now have to have a primary role in making a decision, this joint decision-making category that was created in the guidelines, and I think is a very important thing that patients should have to write say what they want to receive and what they don't want to receive. Dr. Could you hang on just a minute?

I'm going to call you back on a different line. We're having trouble getting a good connection with you. I'm missing about every other word with you, and I want to make sure people hear your information. So I'm going to hang up on you. I'm going to call you right back. Okay, thank you. We'll be right back with Dr. Sal Georgiani.

Let me get some else ready here, by myself a little time. Hey, you know, it's live. We'll take care of that. Live without a net. I'm Taylor Riggs. and this is the Fox Business Report. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. 745 and change.

We were going to have Dr. Sal Georgiani on, and then we just found out, tried to call him back, and his phone line is just in bad shape, just was not connecting up, and he apologizes, but I'll get him rescheduled. Maybe I'll have him back on,

maybe tomorrow, maybe Monday. We'll figure it out, because I've always enjoyed the conversations there, But, you know, if it's gutting in and out, cutting it out, we can't do anything about that. Hey, Lucretia, you are to the way hint here. You were hanging on. We've been talking about food. Chances are on conspiracy theory Thursday, and every day you'd like to focus on that a lot.

What's going on, huh? I do. Well, you know, I was first off just listening to Matt, and one problem with any pig is that the amount of soy and corn that they feed the pigs, they have 80 parts per billion of glyphosate in the meat. All from the grains that are fed to the animal then. Okay. And a half a part per billion, one half a part per billion will cause all your good bacteria and it keyletes out the important minerals out of your body or, you know, when they put it on

the plants, it's just deadly on them too. We don't get those nutrients. And important, really important, vital. You know, Bill, it's so frustrating with all the fake science we're fed. I remember Dr. Blaylock, who I used to get his newsletter, he knew they tested the seed oils, you know, from canola and safflower and, you know, sunflower oil. You know, way back before they started feeding them to us, and the ducks and the chickens they were feeding them to were dying before they could even harvest them in the five weeks that they have before they're, you know, killed. Well, this is going back to, well, I don't want to call it a conspiracy theory Thursday. I think it's just a fact of conspiracy that the old, the standard carbohydrate heavy, the heavy food pyramid was actually created and it was designed to help the Midwest grain farmers.

That was a big part of it. They had land that could grow a lot of grain. They grew a lot of it. Now, even back in those days, though, we weren't talking about genetically modification or anything like that of the grains in those days. So even then they were probably a bit easier to take for the human bio biology. But you see what you're getting at, though? That's where it all came from in the first place, you know. But then we have Ansel Keys cherry picking data and published on Time magazine.

Oh, my gosh, we found out it's the cholesterol and, you know, the totalized there when it's a fact. And the AMA is right behind it because they're trying to get your cholesterol below 200, even 220, you start having increased overall mortality. if your cholesterol is under 220. And yet they're trying to drop it below that. And the LDAs, the good guys, they take all the creeds, it's blocked in the arteries. I mean, it's just so frustrating. Well, the way it's been explained to me by other natural paths people I've talked to over the years,

and it sounds like I know you're very deep into this kind of stuff, Lucretion, so I appreciate that sign of it, is that the cholesterol and the plaque on bloodstream or on your artery or vein walls is not because of the cholesterol, but as a result of cholesterol being placed there because of the inflammation and damage to your circulatory system. That's the way it was explained to me by a naturopath. Is that a fair assessment from your take on it too? Well, it's inflammation from the foods we, you know, definitely all the glyphosate, but all these different vengeful definitely have 16-139-known carcinogens.

And that was from Dr. Anthony Shafee, the class he took on biology of cancer from University of Seattle. He doesn't, the teacher didn't need ventures. He didn't let his kids eat vegetables. All right. Now, back to, though, the changes from RFK Jr. What was done this week, though? You'd still have to say that is progress, at least some progress, isn't it? wish she was stronger though because literally we should at least eat half of our diet in saturated fat

good coconut oil tallow definitely your butter you know we should be eating high fat it's not just protein i would hope that um you know it used to be that um this is a relatively recent development in human history that we were going to fry our foods in seed oils right in in seed oils which there, and the science is talking about the inflammation-prone side of it. And I've gotten rid of as much of the seed oil as I can out of this, but it would be great to see restaurants going back to frying French fries in tallow. Wouldn't that be good? Oh, oh, God, there's so much more tasty. And Bill, if you've got some any kind of insulin, you know, like, oh, gee, you're going to maybe go diabetic. You shouldn't have any. It means you're eating carbs. If you have any rays in your insulin,

You should have none. All right. Lucretia, I appreciate your conspiracy theory way in, as always. And, hey, we didn't even talk about cant trails. Oh, no, I said it, but I just have to say it because you're on. All right. 7-7-0-K-M-E-D. A little open phone time on conspiracy theory Thursday.

I'm good with that. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hi, it's Carol Ann. Caroline, how you doing this morning? I'm good. I had sent you that email a while back talking about sourdough bread. Yes. And my daughter a year ago gave me the best gift that has kept on giving. She gave me a food

scale and a bag of rye flour that you use in your starter and the recipe and a starter for sourdough. And I make, I must make, I give it away too. So I'm retired, so I have a little time, but I must make at least two or three loaves a week, and I eat a loaf a week, and I have lost some weight because I drink jalapeno lemonade, but that's another story. Okay, hold on. Halapeno lemonade. Oh, it's wonderful. That sounds horrible to me.

Oh, it's so good if you like spice. And it raises your metabolism because of the heat factor and the pepper. Yeah, I've lost about seven or eight pounds, and I haven't changed my diet. I just, I take the lemonade that's stevia sweetened, the simply lemonade light, and I just get a jar of the hot sliced mazetta's jalapeno, and I pour the lemonade in like a half-gallon jar, and then pour in some of the vinegar or whatever, the juice. Yeah, the juice from the jar, sure.

some of the jalapenos, and you just get it to whatever heat you like. But it really does have an effect, and I didn't know what it was that was making me lose weight. I thought, it must be the lemonade, because I was just pounding it. And I went online, and it's the jalapenos. I'm just kind of curious, do you have any problems? Do you have any problems with the jalapenos on the other end, so to speak? I don't, because I'm pretty acclimatized to that. I eat a lot of cayenne pepper and my food, too.

Oh, good for you. It's all good for your blood. But the bread, I mean, honestly, and the eggs, my favorite breakfast, which if they haven't turned the electric off, they're going to turn our electric off this morning out here in the Applegate to fix something. I'm going for my two eggs, and I use butter and olive oil to cook them, and a big, lovely slab of sourdough bread toasted with butter. Sourdough bread is one of the ones that, you know, that's one of the most astounding things about the American diet, the typical American diet here, Carolyn, is how many of us are eating bread that is sweet, that is very, very sweetened. And where you'll find it the most is if you go to a fast food restaurant, fast food restaurant chain,

and you'll taste the bun on the hamburger if you ever try to pay attention to that and you realize, oh my gosh, this is getting pretty close to one of those Kings, Hawaiian kind of deals. The American diet is filled with a lot of hidden sugar that a lot of times we've been ignoring. Oh, yeah, it really is, but I'll tell you, the sourdough bread is incredible. I don't think it would put an ounce of weight on anyone, because it hasn't me. And I'm a big girl. I'm six-foot tall and about 190 pounds. Boy, you are a big girl.

Okay. Remind me not to get into a fight with you, okay? Oh, but I'm a nice person, though. Okay. Yeah. But really and truly, if Linda has any time, and it's fun to make, I don't know that you can really make it very well with a bread machine. We don't do a bread machine at home. Eating.

That's what they call folding. Okay, yeah, I get it. Well, I ended up getting Linda one of those, the kitchen aids, you know, the big kitchen-aid stand mixer. She wanted one of those and loves it now. And she could definitely use that to make her sourdough. She hasn't wanted to mess with the starter things. We've been doing different types of bread homemade, you know, organic and done very simply. But we haven't wanted to bother with the starter.

Isn't that a pain to deal with? No, it's easy. Really? You know, it's just easy. You can make your own with just flour and water, but it's, I have mine in the refrigerator. My daughter gave it to me already a jar with it in it that she had. And then it picks up the yeast wherever you are, so everybody's starter is just a little tiny bit different. But then I just, if I'm not going to use it, I need to feed it once a week, but mine gets used all the time.

But it's a quarter cup into the starter I add a quarter cup of rye flour organic. Bob's Red Mill is one of the best flowers available if you don't just like go by King Arthur Organic or the organic. The organic from all-purpose flour from Costco is really excellent. That's what I usually use. Yeah, that's what we've used often too. A quarter cup of the rye and a quarter cup of the regular flour and water. And you just mix that up and add it to the starter and just put it back in the refrigerator if you're not going to use it or if you're going to use it, you just let it bubble up and it will

and rise. And depending on how warm it is, it'll rise in a couple of hours. And then you start your process, and then you put it after you're done with your folding and letting it rise. You put it in the refrigerator overnight. And the next day you pop it in the oven, and it's amazing. Yeah, no doubt. Well, Carolyn, thank you for sharing that. I had no idea we're going to kind of veer off into the food conversation and what people were doing themselves.

But, you know, it sounds like many people have been doing what RFK Jr. and the current health department is trying to, to get more Americans into, a lot of us were already kind of into this, for what it sounds like. Well, healthy, ones of us that are healthy. I've been an organic eater for years, and I'm a kosher eater, biblically kosher. I don't eat any, any pork products or any shellfish or, you know, so that is another issue. But, yeah, the healthy eating, you know, there's an old hippie expression that I know that a lot of us older ones know, but it's true. You are what you eat. Well, that's the case. This morning I'm a little bit of barbecue potato chip from last night's dinner.

Okay. Okay. All right. Thanks, Carol. 757. You know, whoever would have thought the conspiracy theory Thursday would have talked into a healthy food talk, but it's all right. It's good. People write me about that, too.

I'm going to share some of their correspondence on this on emails of the day coming up. This is the Bill Meyer show, KMED. Number here, 7705-633. Changing Weather Norma.