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Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Aaron Withe is CEO of the Freedom Foundation. State legislature wrote a law attacking them, since FF helps state employe union employees opt out. Aaron's groups is suing and we discuss it. D62 quiz, o...pen phones and more.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. 759. This is KMEDE, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. They'll be talking with the leader of a nonprofit in Oregon, who actually has been suffering under a law designed by the Democrats in Salem to shut him up because they would reach out to union people and then say, hey, listen, you don't have to pay the union dues.
Starting point is 00:00:34 You don't have to do this. You don't have to pay for their crappy politics. I couldn't help but think of the Oregon Nurses Association. I could not believe, well, I have to talk about that here in just a little bit. But they're suing. And we've got the latest on that lawsuit here coming up, all right? 7705-633-770 KMED. Back to the phones.
Starting point is 00:00:55 We've been kind of digging into a lot of healthy talks. on food, RFK Jr. on the food pyramid, et cetera. And hi, good morning. Who's this? Hello. Ira, I'm glad you called. I was just going to read your email. So your ears were burning this morning, right?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Yeah. It was 19 years ago that you helped me promote my orthomelecular textbook. Okay, what is that, what is that, how did you say the molecular textbook? What was that thing? What was that called? What's that word again? Yeah. Honest Nutrition was the title.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Yes. And our conversation with you resulted in selling a significant number of copies. Good. Glad to hear that. So do you still have honest nutrition in print? Just curious. Oh, yes. It's available in Amazon.
Starting point is 00:01:48 It costs a little more now than it did then. Well, like anything else after 19 years, right? I know. But, yeah, you were telling me on the email, that the emphasis on what you were writing in honest nutrition. This is, like I said, almost 20 years ago when we talked about that, and is very close to what RFK Jr. is promoting these days. Yeah, that means 20 years ago with the alternative nutrition people,
Starting point is 00:02:16 we're on to what the RFK is on to now. Well, I'm glad. And if there's a way that bit by bit, I know some people would say that it's not radical enough or it's not doing enough, but you're not going to get radical change through immediately. Everything has to be through steps. It took a while to get to this point in our life, isn't it? You know, with the type of food we've been eating for a while? Yeah, there are changes that would make, but the book is essentially it's relevant now as it was then.
Starting point is 00:02:51 All right. Ira, thanks so much for having reminded me of that, because I forgot about it a long time ago. It's been a while since we talked, but thanks for reaching out. Edward's, by the way. He lives in Medford, and you can find out more. Just look up on Amazon Honest Nutrition. I'm sure I have a copy of it in my library at home, but honest nutrition. Honest Nutrition is what that is called. And a lot of what JFK or RFK Jr. is talking about. God, I want to call JFK. Can't help that. Alan writes me, Bill, I'd rather die of food poisoning, crappy food than starvation. Point well said. George Thomas is here about protein. He says,
Starting point is 00:03:26 Bill, protein killed my brother. Older people don't process protein as well as young. And older people, they store it and it kills your kidneys. Well, yeah, you have to keep an eye on that if you have kidney problems. If your kidney problems are okay or you don't have a big kidney problem, it would be less of an issue. I know that many diabetics I have known over time have had problems processing protein with kidney, with their kidneys. And so something good to mention. Let me go to Let's see, David writes me too about nitrites. Hi Bill, Italian sausage has no nitrates or nitrites. Quit eating anything with refined sugar.
Starting point is 00:04:07 And also eat only non-GMO wheat and no seed oils in faster processed foods. You'll feel much better. I've done that since my cancer diagnosis, and I am feeling better, and my weight stays steady. Dave, I appreciate the email. Emails of the day are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson in Central Point Family Dentistry. Family Dentistry.com. Get your appointment there. Crowns?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Boy, they're great at it. While you wait. That's the way it can work. In fact, I know that when I, I'm going to go in for another crown in maybe about a week, I think, is what we're going to do. Yeah, it's a back tooth. It's just coming to the end of it. I've grounded down enough. It needs a little bit of help there.
Starting point is 00:04:48 And it's one of those things he'll grind it all up and they have an in-house lab. They don't have to send this stuff out anymore. And they mill that crown. put it on, it fits perfectly. Boom, first time. Absolutely fascinating. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. One more call before news. Hi, who's this? Morning. Oh, guess we let you. Well, that's okay. I'll go to news now anyway. Fox News on KMED and KMED HD-E-EG-G-G grants pass, or maybe not. Maybe this person called. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is minor, Dave. Dave, you're calling back. Dave, Dave, Dave, you're calling twice, man.
Starting point is 00:05:22 You're double-dippin. Yeah, I know. I can't help it. about one of my favorite things, food, because I treat cereal like I treat ice cream. I eat it as a dessert and only once in a while. You know, I weigh 166 pounds and I'm six-foot tall. I know. And I've learned you've got to eat protein and vegetables and salad, and it works for me. Well, I'll tell you, though, I think it's kind of funny that you look at breakfast cereal as dessert because when you look at the sugar content and most of it, you're about right. Okay?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Thanks, Dave. Hi, today of 42, we'll drop to 27 with some freezing fog possible tonight, becoming mostly sunny Friday, higher 46. Gold's still sitting there at about 44 or 50. The stock sold off a bit yesterday, but boy, precious metals still seem to be holding their owners are going to continue. I don't know, but there is a trend right now, especially 2025, 2026, that people are thinking All right.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Precious metals, commodities. We may be in another bull market. Is it going to be lasting for a while? I don't know. But the central banks are still adding to it. And apparently this is a slow backing away from the U.S. dollar. It's not a runaway from the U.S. dollar, but bit by bit, the global banks, the central banks are starting to add more to it. Must be something to it.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I don't try to argue with the big money types on these deals. But should we be adding to our own supplies? Maybe. I don't know. Talk with your financial advice. but where to get it, and who do you talk to about getting or trading your physical gold and silver? That's easy. It's Jay Austin & Company, golden silver buyers in Ashland, 1632 Ashland Street in Ashland, Ashland, 6th and G in downtown Grants Pass.
Starting point is 00:07:05 One of my oldest sponsors, Fair People, have been doing this a long time. They're pretty busy right now. The scramble for physical is pretty heavy right now. And a friend of mine was telling him that a friend of his ended up finding a bunch of silver. It was a bunch of silverware that he had sitting around the house, and he had a bunch of it, and he bagged it up, and he took it down to Jay Austin at first. And so they took the silver, they waited and everything else, and then they gave him a little slip of paper, right? And he says, oh, $120.
Starting point is 00:07:41 I thought it was only going to be $100, I thought it was going to be more than $120. Well, he had covered up with his thumb the second or the third third. It was actually $1,200. It's amazing the amount of cash, which could be liquidated from something you're not using in there. Talk to Jay Austin. They'll help you out. Call 482-3715. 482-3715, Fortune Reserve.com.
Starting point is 00:08:06 This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontana roofing services.com. I really am a big fan of free speech. Of course, free speech is part of my job description, really. We do our best to keep it as free and communicative as possible. But the Oregon State Legislature doesn't always agree with this. In fact, there was an Oregon House bill, 3789, that, well, essentially hands public sector unions the power to sue the Freedom Foundation into oblivion for doing what it's been doing for years, informing public employees about their constitution. rights. It is fascinating to have a law that has been actually passed by the legislature
Starting point is 00:08:56 targeting one non-profit group. And Aaron With joins me. You're the CEO of the Freedom Foundation. Isn't that right, Aaron? Welcome. Yeah, that's right, Bill. Thanks to having me on. Tell me about the Freedom Foundation and what it's all about. And why, boy, the state legislature had to put a law on you, on you and just you, practically, I guess. Well, it's a compliment in disguise, I think. All the Freedom Foundation does is help public employees to get out of their unions. For years in Oregon and across the country, government employees have been forced to pay union dues, and they haven't had the choice to opt out and stop paying union dues. All of that changed in 2018. The U.S. Supreme Court handed down a landmark decision, Janus B. AFS. that allowed every
Starting point is 00:09:42 government worker in Oregon to opt out of their unions and stop paying union dues. The problem is, in a state like Oregon, is the government didn't tell anybody that they could leave their unions. And the unions certainly weren't going to tell anybody. So the Freedom Foundation hired boots on the ground to visit these public employees at their homes. We send the mail, emails, the digital marketing, all the rest of it. And we helped over 35,000 Oregonians so far around 20% of the government workforce to get out of their unions and stop paying union dues. And that's why they passed this bill that targets an attempt to criminalize.
Starting point is 00:10:20 that work. All right. Now, you understand why they're coming after you because if you're, I guess, technically taking political money away from unions, because that's really what we're talking about, unions essentially own the Oregon state government. They pay the politicians huge amounts of money in their contributions. And then those politicians, of course, passed laws to protect them. That's essentially what we're looking at here, isn't it? Yeah, bingo. It's a scheme. It should be criminal. But yeah, You have a special interest group, government unions, that profit by government growing. And then they put that money into the campaigns of left-wing politicians that grow the size of government. And in this instance, protect their monopoly and silence free speech.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Now in the state of Oregon, they attempt to criminalize this type of work. They attempt to criminalize our ability to tell public employees that they can actually leave their unions and stop paying union dues. And the way that they passed it, they make the outrageous claim that the Freedom Foundation was impersonating unions, which of course is completely illogical. How could you impersonate unions? What was the logic that the state legislature, and I would imagine mostly Democrats in the state legislature, came up with to write this law? How do they do that? I didn't hear a good one. I didn't hear the closest argument that I heard that we were actually impersonating unions is that on our website opt out today.com,
Starting point is 00:11:48 employees can go visit it and get out of their unions today. On our website, our color schemes kind of matched the unions, like SEIU as a purple color scheme. And on our website, if you wanted to opt out of SCIU, there was purple on the website. That was the craziest claim that I heard. Oh, so SEIU has a copyright on the color scheme of their website. Nobody else can do that, otherwise you're impersonating SEIU. Boy, I got to tell you, I knew that Oregon was run by a bunch of corrupt people, but this has kind of taken the, you know, the cake on something like this. So naturally, what has happened is that they said that you, they really singled out you. What have you been doing since this passage of House Bill 3789 that would criminalize,
Starting point is 00:12:35 I guess, you know, reaching out to these union members? Well, the law went into effect a week ago. Before then, there was, I'd call it a buffer period where we essentially conducted large amounts of outreach to public employees towards the end of last year. At the start of this year, we're not backing down. We've bought a lawsuit against the Oregon legislature, against the Attorney General, and against the five largest unions in the state of Oregon. And the lawsuit basically claims that this is a First Amendment issue. You are silencing speech in a chilling way.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And by the way, isn't this something that should violate this is a prior restraint on speech? You're not even allowed to make the approach. Right? Isn't that true? Yeah, bingo. The analogy that I've been using is it's almost like Nike passing a bill that outlaws Adidas products. You can't silence speech in that kind of way. So that's what it attempts to do. And it comes of a $6,250 fine per instance, meaning per piece of mail sent, per door-knocked, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:13:41 So their goal is to defund the Freedom Foundation. Yeah, boy, who is going to arrest you? I'm even trying to think at how this could be America with the state of Oregon passing such a law. So you email, or let's say that you just mail, you get out of envelope here, Aaron, and you put a card in there that says, hey, talk to us at the Freedom Foundation about how you can opt out of paying dues to your public employees union. We'll show you how. And the state of Oregon finds you $6,250? Seriously, is it that, is it that radical? And their claim is that we would either be spreading misinformation or disparaging union membership,
Starting point is 00:14:23 which is what's covered in the law. But disparaging union membership is a free country, I thought. Where am I wrong on this? Bingo. And that's why we need the courts to step in. So we've sued the state of Oregon. We'll be in federal court. Ultimately, the courts are going to have to decide of us on this and shut this crazy law down.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Now, is this a federal court that you are going into? Yes. Okay. Because if you were going into an Oregon judge court with Oregon judges appointed by the Oregon Democratic governor, I don't think you'd have a chance in hell, would you? No, I think that the reason that they did pass this law the way they have is because they can sue us in state court and they get in front of judges that will agree with them that the Freedom Foundation was disparaging union membership and they can call misinformation, whatever they want to call it. So this law, the books have been cooked on this to try and outlaw the work that we're doing at the Freedom Foundation. But let's go back to wash. The reason that they're doing this is because we've helped so many people leave their unions and they see this as a way to stop the bleeding.
Starting point is 00:15:33 Yeah, well, yeah, you've been effective. You've been effective, in other words, telling them about the Janus decision on how you don't have to pay for this. And by the way, I think that you are still, if you are in the union, required to pay for the costs of negotiating contracts, right? You have to do that. No. No. No. No. If you're a public employee in America today in any state in the union, you can opt out of your union and stop paying union dues entirely. And the reason that is because with a government union, the court says that everything a government union does is inherently political. When you're representing public employees and bargaining with the government, while at the same time you're placing the people that sit opposite the table, opposite side of the table, the politicians, everything you do is inherently political.
Starting point is 00:16:19 The court said that. That gives every public employee the right to leave their unions and stop paying these dues. All right. Now, the Janus decision then doesn't affect, let's say, the Teamsters Union or the electricians union or anything like that, right? That sort of deal. It doesn't spill over into the private sector. Okay, all right. This is strictly the government employees, because it is kind of like a circular self-reinforcing, well, it's a self-licking ice cream cone is the way that the Oregon employee unions deal with the state government. It's self-licking ice cream cone. That's what we got. Just amazing. Yeah, that's exactly right. When you take money from public employees and give its politicians to raise taxes on the private sector to go and hire more public employees that pay UDN dues, therefore growing their coffers, I mean,
Starting point is 00:17:05 It's a cycle that's been ongoing nationally for 60 years, and they are now the largest contributors to left-wing politicians in the country. That's the kind of monopoly that we're fighting today. All right, and this is about attacking the funding levels, and I'm good with this. Aaron Witt is the CEO of the Freedom Foundation. You filed then in federal court, and is it on the schedule yet at this point? How long are we going to have to wait to see if this goes to trial? And could the state of Oregon just come back and say, hey, we'll negotiate a settlement? or just repeal the law and then it's moot? I mean, what do you think? What could happen here?
Starting point is 00:17:40 I think we're in for a fight. I think we're in for a fight. Oh, okay. Well, how can we help the fight then? What about your group? Where can we go? Find out more about this. FreedomFoundation.com is our website. I'd ask that anybody subscribe to our emails, follow us online. Consider donating to the Freedom Foundation. We're a 501C-free nonprofit. All donations are taxiductible anonymous. But this fight is going to cost significant resources as well, so I'd appreciate anybody listening to consider doing that. You know, it just astounds me. You know, Oregon always sits around here, it's a government, I should say, and rings its hands and talks about the wonderful work that nonprofit corporations and organizations do until they come up with the Freedom Foundation and all of a sudden, evil, evil,
Starting point is 00:18:23 evil, must be destroyed. It just cracks. It cracks me up the hypocrisy, but, yeah, that goes. Aaron, thanks for telling us the story and explaining this. Best of luck in, I'm going to get people to go to your website and find out more, okay? Thanks so much. Thanks, Bill. I appreciate you. Aaron with, once again, CEO of the Freedom Foundation, Freedom Foundation. And as it is right now, they reach out to any union member.
Starting point is 00:18:48 It's a $6,250 fine, $6,200 fine for doing this, according to this House bill, that our wonderful state legislature passed. It's 825. You're on KMED. Are you turning 65 and entering Medicare this year? The days noon to three on KMED. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Many people have been writing me.
Starting point is 00:19:14 They'd call the station, and, you know, we went through a sale here a few weeks ago, and it actually finally closed, and I'm now well part of Markey Broadcasting West. That's what KMED is part of. We're part of Fox 26, that whole family. And, you know, I'd mentioned this. But during the transition, Oregon E deals, in which people would save all this money, it kind of got lost in the shuffle or, you know, it just went away here for a little while.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And people were complaining, and I understand, because I have to tell you, when you're looking to buy great certificates at a discount here for wonderful local businesses, that was just a wonderful place. Well, we have it back under Marquis Broadcasting. It's a slightly different, a slightly different website. it's called my Oregon e-deals.com. My Oregon Edeals.com. I want to make sure you know about this because we just got it back and up and it's open.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And so we have these wonderful certificates. You can purchase gift cards, gift certificates, discounted prices, and you're helping out local businesses here. You save big money. We make good money. Everybody's happy. And all your gift cards and certificates are shipped right to your mailbox. It's real easy.
Starting point is 00:20:31 And we have all sorts of stuff that's up there right now. And, I mean, I'll give you an example. Here's one right now. We always talk about Diner 62. You know how wonderful a Diner 62 meal can be. Diner 62 certificates spend like $25 over at the restaurant, but you only pay $15 for it. That's it. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:20:52 All right. Artisan Bakery Cafe, another wonderful restaurant here, $25 for $15. Now let's say that you need your price. parking lot swept up in and cleaned up a bit here. Here's a huge discount on Dustin Curbs, Dustin Curbs, wonderful sponsor, but advertise here. For $220 would be their basic service gift certificate for $100, less than half price. This is just an example of what is going on there. So just head to it. It's real easy. And if you have an old login from the Oregon E Deal's website, still works in this one too.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's my Oregon e-deals.com, okay? My Oregon-Edeals.com. And you can head there. We're always going to be adding stuff to it. Just wanted to give it a little bit of love because this is something that a lot of people have been saying, oh, Bill, I wanted to buy some Christmas gifts
Starting point is 00:21:43 for some friends and that I couldn't get. Yeah, we were hearing it. We got it all fixed now, and it's backing up, and it works great. Okay? So if you don't have a membership or a log-in, create one today. and if you have an old one, that will still work, okay?
Starting point is 00:21:58 MyOregon Edeals.com. State 30 at KMED, 993 KBXG. I was reading yesterday, of course, everybody was talking about what was going on with the killing of a woman by the ICE agents in Minneapolis in that traffic stop. That traffic stop, well, you know, she, well, the traffic stop that she wouldn't stop. She ends up hitting the gas and et cetera, et cetera. So there's all this. And I was just talking about union politics.
Starting point is 00:22:25 with Aaron with from the Freedom Foundation a moment ago, but it reminded me of something that I'm trying to figure out if you are a nurse, if you are a nurse and you belong to the Oregon Nurses Association, the ONA, do you like what your union is doing with regard to what happened in Minneapolis? This is the press release that I got in my email box yesterday
Starting point is 00:22:54 from the Oregon Nurses Association. ONA statement on the killing of a woman by ICE in Minneapolis. This is what the Oregon nurses, you know, in our area, I guess, are into, okay? As frontline health care workers, we are entrusted with a fundamental responsibility to preserve life, reduce harm, and provide care with dignity without exception. Fine. The killing of a woman by immigration and customs enforcement. enforcement is a devastating violation of those principles and a stark example of the unchecked harm
Starting point is 00:23:31 that ICE continues to inflict on our communities. Our hearts go out to the victim and their family, and we extend our deepest sympathies during this profound moment of loss. The Oregon Nurses Association unequivocally condemns this senseless active violence and demands full transparency from the Department of Homeland Security. Now, you may be asking what this has to do with being a nurses union, but I digress, okay? We call for an immediate end to ISIS operations in our communities and for meaningful oversight of an agency that has repeatedly demonstrated it can't be trusted to police itself.
Starting point is 00:24:12 The videos emerging from Minneapolis are chilling. When state violence occurs, it is the nurses and other frontline caregivers who are called to respond to stop the bleeding, manage the trauma. and comfort families, ICE meanwhile operates with extraordinary power and little accountability, bringing lethal force into communities in Oregon and across the country, while evading the transparency and consequences required of other agencies or institutions. The killing did not happen in a vacuum. ICE's routine use of intimidation and force creates widespread fear that keeps immigrant communities
Starting point is 00:24:53 from seeking medical care, delays treatment until conditions become life-threatening and causes lasting psychological trauma. That fear directly interferes with frontline health care workers' ability to carry out our professional, ethical, and legal responsibilities. In other words, ICE is damaging the Oregon Nurses Association, according to their press release here. A system that drives patients into hiding is not protecting public safety.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It is actively endangering lives. In other words, don't enforce the law. As frontline health care workers, we see the consequences of these actions every day, and this killing only deepens the harm. ISIS tactics have pushed immigrant communities into crisis, a reality fundamentally at odds with our commitment as frontline caregivers. Immigrants are vital members of our state. Now, remember when the ONA talks about immigration,
Starting point is 00:25:55 immigrants, they're speaking of illegal aliens, okay? They're not talking about people who have green cards that are here legally. But immigrants are vital members of our state and our health care system, and they deserve the same rights and protection as everyone else. ONA stands in solidarity with immigrant communities and communities of color who are directly and indirectly harmed by ISIS actions. We cannot fulfill, or pardon me, we cannot fulfill our duty to care for patients while ICE continues to operate as an unaccountable force that threatens the very communities
Starting point is 00:26:31 we are sworn to protect and serve. So are you telling me, is the Oregon Nurses Association, the Nurses Union, are they telling me that you can't care for patients because of ICE's operations? Is that what you're trying to make the case for? And I would really love to find out if there's anyone who belongs to the Oregon Nurses Association, do you agree with the Oregon nurses? You know, your union's political position on this because they dug themselves into this political, they got a political situation here. It's like a dog with a bone. What do you think about the ONAs getting into this policy, into this policy argument,
Starting point is 00:27:17 these political arguments? Did a good thing? Any problem with what they've been saying? About the immigrant community? I just couldn't believe it. I thought that Oregon Nurses Association just wanted to make sure that nurses got a good deal and a fair deal for working. But apparently they are an open border shill. Open border shill and they don't want law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I mean, do I have to worry about it or do we have to worry about this? You go into Prov or you go into Asante? You just keep your mouth shut about absolutely anything. if an ONA member, if a union member of the Oregon Nurses Association says, oh, you're one of them? You think it's that what ICE did is okay? Here comes a boobel in your IV. Being sarcastic, but, you know, I just don't know if that, if that, well, maybe it does play well.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Maybe it does play well at Oregon. I just want to make sure you knew that, though. Kind of got slid under the door last night. night. Good morning. This is Bill. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Who's this? And welcome. Hey, Bill, Brad, here. Good morning to you. Great, great show as usual. Well, thank you, Brad. Two things, unions and Cuba. So on the deal that you're doing with the unions, one thing that you know and a lot of people know is, is you have union management and you have union membership and the two are very different. And here's a great example. In the last governor's race, Tina Kotech received,
Starting point is 00:28:58 and I'm going from memory here. I might be off a little bit, but she received about a half a million of her $30 million of her $30 million last campaign. She got about a half a million of out-of-state IBEW money.
Starting point is 00:29:11 That's the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers. Right. I guarantee you if you lined up 1,000 electricians in the state of Oregon asking Hescombe who they voted for,
Starting point is 00:29:22 900 of them at least would have voted for Christine Drazen last time. And almost none of them voted for... So that's the difference between union management and the way the unions work, which you understand is the unions collect the money that they use to funnel to the politicians that they like to get the politicians elected so that they create policies that benefit the union management. And then it's just this circle thing. But I guess how would, how does going out there and putting a thumb on ice, how does that help union management though? because this is obviously union management. But what I'm kind of curious about is what the rank and file thinks about this.
Starting point is 00:30:04 Yeah. So the leftist political pundits is a calculation. Again, they have a very symbiotic relationship between leftist political personalities and union leadership. And that's the back and forth. So when the left side of the political spectrum wants to get a message out to the public, they use the unions to do it because then it looks more grassroots that way. That makes sense. That makes sense. So they're just shilling for the Democratic point of view on this one.
Starting point is 00:30:38 And it looks, yeah, it looks like grassroots. That's very good. Thank you, Brad. Hi, this is Bill. KMED. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill Logan.
Starting point is 00:30:49 The Oregon Nurses Association. fleet racket. My wife was involved with them for a while. I said, stop sending them checks. They did nothing. You know, I want to keep bringing this up. Our nurses that were fired from Asante for not taking the jab have still not been made whole. The Pacific Justice and two, legal justice into Ray Hackey, I mean, his last name is so fitting. He literally, I don't know if it was some sort of conspiracy between Asante and this place, but he just let that case dissolve. The fact that Torrin McKnight and sue the city of Ashland for nonsense, and we can't even get these nurses some justice. It's just so sad. I mean, in the whole state of Oregon, you can't find somebody
Starting point is 00:31:32 to take this case. It's this open-shut case. Why is that? Why is that so difficult, you know? I don't know, but in my wife's case, she was granted a religious exemption and still terminated. You know, we stuck to our guns, and I'm glad we did at this point, you know. Well, yeah, in other Lawrence, you have your religious exemption. Great. You're fired. Have a nice day. Okay. Fine. Exactly. And somehow we cannot find an attorney. I mean, this Ray Hackey guy out of the Pacific Legal Justice Institute literally just dropped the ball for all these nurses down here,
Starting point is 00:32:03 and I believe was working behind the scenes with Asante just to dissolve it. Well, I can't comment on the veracity of that. I don't know, but that's your opinion. All right. So you're not a fan. All right. Thanks, Logan. Go to the next call. Hi. Good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hello? Orrin' Bill. Super Dave, off in Iona, Idaho.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Dave? Great to have you on. What do you think of this morning? Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you, too. Are you commenting on Oregon Nurses Association or something else? Unions in general. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:36 I've worked for a couple. I started my working career in bakery cleanup and worked up to management in the grocery industry. And as a member of the UFCW, and it was pretty much worthless. Good wage. but as far as the other things go, nothing there. Then I went to work for the Teamsters. And I will just say this. The object of the Teamsters Union is to protect the lowest bottom feeder on the chain.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Love the wages. Love the benefits. Didn't love working all of my stuff and half the guy next to me is because he couldn't keep up. And they protected his ass, not mine. And you got no more pay then for being a better worker, right? Nope. Yeah. They always protect the lowest bottom feeder.
Starting point is 00:33:26 To me, if the union would take care of that, I bet the employers would be more happy to hire union. Yeah. But they don't. In other words, union of competent employees rather than union of nonsense people, people who don't know how to work. Yeah. Thanks, Super Day. Been here from you. 770KMED.
Starting point is 00:33:46 conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi, good morning. Hello. Going once. Going twice. Hi, who's this? Hello, hello? Yes, hi, who's this? Hey, this is Mike and Medford. Hey, Mike. To give you a chain of custody on the union representation and political parties. As we know, unions were blue collar workers and the Democratic Party was the blue collar party. Now, in the mid-90s, 1990s, we all, that were union employees, took a vote to allow donations to political parties. And that's when it started with, see, we didn't know that they would be supporting a major political party, and we were never told whether it was Democrat or Republican. but it turned out to be Democrat, of course.
Starting point is 00:34:48 And that's when union affiliation and political realm merged as far as coming out of our pocket. And I know that Aaron Witt from the Freedom Foundation was saying that, hey, we have control with the Janus decision. You know, you can have a public employee union. They can opt out, but you can't do this in the private sector at this time, right? Can't do that. I don't know. This was happening in the state of Oregon in the 1990s, the mid to later in 1990s. Now we can see how this happened with, oh, say, the, oh, I lost my train of thought.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Anyway, Homeland Security Act. We can say that that happened then, and then as soon as we voted for it and saw it in action taking our liberties away after 9-1-1, we said, oh, no, we all made a mistake voting this in. You think a lot of union members feel the same way about the politicization of the... Oh, yes. All right. Hey, appreciate your opinion on that. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:36:03 770KM.D. I'll grab one more call. Hi. Hello? No? Yes. Hi, this is Winnie. Hi, Lenny.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Or Winnie. How are you? Go ahead. I'm good. So I was listening about the nurses. Yeah, the Oregon Nurses Association, they're just loud and proud, and they're just an open border anti-ice. And gosh, you know, we can't provide good care because of ICE's actions in our community. And I'm just kind of, well, as the Brits would say, gobsmacked a bit. That's just me.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Yeah. And I thought it was interesting because, you know, during that time where the nurses were all being let go or, I actually just fired here in Oregon. So I had a friend and her daughter got fired and she had a religious exemption. And then I happened to be on a plane coming in to Medford from Salt Lake City. And I had a young lady sitting next to me and we got to chatting. And I asked what she did and she said she was a traveling nurse. And I said, oh, interesting. And she said, yeah, I'm going to Grant's path to work.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And then we started talking about housing. Do you know of any rooms or anything like that? And, you know, we just tossed and got to know each other a little bit. And then I said to her, I said, do you mind me asking you a personal question? And she said, no, go ahead. And I said, were you required to have the jab when you got those traveling job in Oregon? And she looked at me and she said, no, I wasn't. They never even asked.
Starting point is 00:37:45 So they let go of nurses here in our state that live here pay taxes here. They get traveling nurses from other places and didn't even require the shots to come over here and work. I thought that was nuts. Yeah. Why is the Oregon Nurses Association really doing? It's kind of what I'm wondering, you know, I would have thought the nurses would have done more to protect their own membership on this. Maybe I'm wrong. Well, I would think so too, but it's like you guys were talking.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You know, the unions, you pay the dues and stuff. It's not necessarily, what they do with that money isn't necessarily what the body of the union members that pay money into it want them to do. You know, there's another way of maybe looking at this too is that reading this news release yesterday in which Oregon Nurses Association is slobbering all over illegal immigration and hating on ice. doesn't want law enforcement, they want ice gone and all the rest of this stuff. It makes me wonder if the Oregon Nurses Association being essentially an arm of the Democratic Party, they were thrilled to have the Oregon Nurse Association union members who wouldn't take the jab be fired because they were using that as a litmus test of your political affiliation. Maybe that was what was going on at the time.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Any thoughts? You know, maybe. I mean, that's a, that is a good thought. I mean, not a good thought. It's kind of a creepy thought. Yeah. Yeah, that could have very well been. Yeah, they're making the assumption that if you weren't,
Starting point is 00:39:24 that if you weren't into the jab, well, then you're not into the, you're not into the Fouchy science. And so that's okay. We're happy to have you gone. Oh, Oregon Nurses Association. We're into the science and we can't help you on this. So I guess maybe it's perfectly reasonable, given the political orientation. of the upper management there. Maybe that's what's going on. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah, maybe. Yeah. Thanks for sharing that experience. And the airplane trip, too. Bill Meyer's show here, KMED. The wait is over. Eagles Gas Depot is now open, bringing you a brand new way to... This is the Bill Meyer show on 1063 KMED. Got something on your mind? Give Bill a shout at 541-770-5-633. 770 KMED. Yep, open phone. the final few minutes of conspiracy theory Thursday. We were talking about the Oregon Nurses Association, and gosh, we were talking about what happened in Minneapolis,
Starting point is 00:40:21 so many other things, too, even healthy eating. Hi, good morning. Who is this, and what do you want to talk about? Hi. Hi, this is Doug. Finn, maybe you can help me understand something. I'm having a hard time figuring out that DMV down there. Yeah, they say you have to fly.
Starting point is 00:40:38 You have to have the star on your driver's license. Yeah, the, uh, the, uh, the, real ID is what you need. Yeah, so I've been down there twice, and I was born in Connecticut, and I wrote to them to get my birth certificate, and they send me a thing that says, this is a certified copy, and it's got all the things about my birth in Connecticut. Yeah, and it has, like, you know, the certified little raised, what do they call that the stamp of some sort on it, right?
Starting point is 00:41:15 Well, yeah, it didn't have that. It just said, this is the certified copy. And down there said, this is a seal, a seal, you know. And then the guy said, well, you've got to have that raised thing. And I said, well, I'm a citizen. And I had a passport that was expired. They wouldn't take that. But I said, oh, what am I supposed to do?
Starting point is 00:41:38 This is what they send me. So I says, well, I'm a citizen. but I'm a, he said it, I even talked to the manager. He says, it's got nothing to do with being a citizen. I said, well, what do you have to go for the birth certificate for? If you're not, if it's not for being a citizen, I said, I'm a citizen. So maybe you could help me understand what's going on. I don't understand what it was.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Okay. So now, so you ended up getting from, it was Connecticut, you said? Connecticut. All right. So you got, you asked Connecticut then for a proper certified copy of your birth certificate, and you're telling me that the DMV folks would not accept that as a certified copy or adequate? They wouldn't accept it as a certified, and I had to pay a fee, a form to get that from Connecticut, and they wouldn't accept it.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Huh. So right, then I got all of kind of not real mad at them, but I talked to a man. down another, on the phone, and he says, don't let him tell you that they won't take it. So I told him that, and he says, well, we're not taking it. We're not allowed to take it. So I called back, and then they said, well, you get them to scan it. And I said, I just returned from there, and I waited in long line to get up to the front, and to get it, and then they tell me no. So I said to myself, I'm going to send that back to Connecticut and explain it to them with the thing, you know, with the birth certificate.
Starting point is 00:43:13 But I haven't heard, I've just mailed it off. Yeah, yeah, because I ended up getting a, now, did this birth certificate from Connecticut, did it have the raised stamp and seal on it? Because my one from Pennsylvania did when I ordered that a number of years ago. Oh, no, it didn't have the raise where you could feel it raised, no. But it had a stamp there. It said seal. You know, it just said seal.
Starting point is 00:43:41 It must have been where the seal goes. Yeah. You know what I would, you know what you might want to do? What district are you in or what town are you in? I went to the Medford DMV down there by Safeways. I wonder if maybe reaching out to state representative Wallen might be helpful. or maybe even state senator Golden because, you know, they will help out on some of these things when we have
Starting point is 00:44:10 because it doesn't make sense because if this is what the state of Connecticut is sending out, it seems to me that there's some either miscommunication or someone's just on a power trip at the DMV. But if you're asking me to try to explain the Department of Motor Vehicles, I'm afraid you're calling the wrong guy. I wish I could explain it. I don't know if anybody can. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Doesn't it have to do with being a citizen, no? Well, you have to understand. Citizenship in Oregon doesn't matter. You know, but no. Well, no. Well, come on. You've heard about the scandals about how illegal aliens ended up getting signed up to vote, although they did quietly admit that they did that,
Starting point is 00:44:56 and they're tightening that down a little bit here. But just know that they're kind of globalist things. in the state government. But what I would do is that I would get in touch with your state reps or your state senator and see if they can help out and maybe pull a string or two to help you. Okay, try that. Well, I did. I send it back to Connecticut that one they sent me. So maybe they'll give me a reason, or maybe they'll put that seal on there, that stamped. Yeah, maybe they could. Hey, best of luck on that. I'm sorry, I couldn't be a complete good answerer. Well, thank you. I appreciate you because I figured maybe you might know.
Starting point is 00:45:32 know something more about it than I do. Yeah, because DMV didn't give me any trouble when I had mine, but appreciate the call. Good luck on that. Oh, man, it's so frustrating. Here's my birth certificate. No, we will take it. We'll probably take a counselor card from Mexico, though. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Anyway, hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Bill. Hey, Bill. Yeah. Hey, it's Todd. Todd. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:45:57 If illegal aliens were undercutting the wages of ONA people, they'd be screaming like stuck pigs. I remember growing up in Los Angeles, Cesar Chavez railed the head of the United Farm Workers Union. He railed against illegal immigration. And there's a famous PBS interview with him where he's dropping all sorts of verbiage that I couldn't use on the radio to describe illegal aliens. because he knew what they were doing. They were undercutting the wages of his workers, his field workers. Great point. Glad you brought it up.
Starting point is 00:46:35 And you're right. Maybe that's what has to happen next year. Maybe that'll get the ONA to think a little bit more clearly. Just say, you know, we're going to let anybody who's an illegal alien be an ONA union member. That could be interesting. More than coming up. If you farm and ranch, there's always an office.

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