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Episode Date: January 16, 2025

Open phones for Wheels Up Wednesday, RJ Rogers joins me for a talk on his book THE DON - all about the history of the Mafia and Cosa Nostra, D62 quiz and more.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. Randy writes me this morning, Bill, today would have been Ronnie Van Zandt's 76th birthday. All right. Yeah, the original, the original lead singer-songwriter for Lynyrd Skynyrd. Would have been 76. And Randy says, a little bumper music would be good, however.

Today should be a national holiday. Yeah, for anything involving Lynyrd Skynyrd, I'm right there with you, Randy. Now, I always liked What's Your Name? I always liked this one because it was kind of like their version of We're an American Band. It was their version of Grand Funks. We're an American Band, except, you know, where's the groupie, right? You know, that sort of thing. But, yeah, very interesting.

I appreciate the reminder, Randy. So we'll have some more Skinner bumper music for today on what would have been Ronnie Van Zandt's 76th birthday. Boy, I have to tell you, I'm looking here this morning in my inbox, and I don't know if it's because of all the talk about crypto and the market craziness, but I have never received so many scam emails over the past few years as I have these last few days. And a lot of it involving cryptocurrency. Now, my mail provider screens out most of them, but I just wanted to warn you if you're getting similar stuff like this. And here we have a lot of stuff is coming in through so-called DocuSign, you know, which

is an online way to sign documents, one of many. There are PDFs that will come in. And I'm looking at one that came into the Bill Myers Show mailbox that made it through the spam filter. And it was from DocuSign. It says, unrecognized digital currency transfer alert. Payment received from DocuSign. And a transaction, it says, now I have a PayPal account too,

because I had a PayPal account years ago for dealing with eBay, even though you don't have to have that anymore, but I still have one. And so they try to get you, because you realize, okay, I have a PayPal account, so maybe I should check this out but it says a transaction of 599 dollars for 0.00789 bitcoin btc has been initiated on your paypal account the payment originating from an unknown address in texas has been temporarily put on hold to protect your account immediate action required if you did not authorize this payment, contact us immediately to secure your account. Now, of course, here's where the fun goes. There's PayPal Resolution

Center. And the PayPal Resolution Center, they have toll-free available now, 1-808-808-7511. That's not the number for PayPal. I can almost assure you that's it. But they get you to either click on it, to click on the PDF on it, and it's usually some kind of browser hack, some sort of attack, some virus. And just understand that if you didn't initiate the payment or if you're being told that some payment is being initiated or someone's trying to send you money, it's kind of like they've just they've just made the Nigerian prince trying to get 11 million dollars out of the company or the out of the country email. They just made it a little more a little more sophisticated. Right. In which you're going like, OK, well, maybe somebody does owe me $599 in Bitcoin.

I better find out more. And, of course, they're going to want your banking information and your codes and all the rest of it. I love it when they say that we're ready to shut down your email account, Bill at BillMeyersShow.com. Please log into this and verify your account. It's like, oh, come on. So this way you just give away your credentials. Amazing time. I wish that we could return to more of a high-trust society.

When it comes to stuff online right now, we really can't be trustworthy. We really can't be trusting, I should say. Hopefully we're trustworthy with one another. How about that? We have some open phones if you wanted to. You can jump on it, anything you want to, 770-563-3770, KMED. We're going to talk with Bob Hart next hour about the wildfire map letters that are going out. Have you decided whether or not you're going to appeal if you ended up getting the high rating?

And it seems like if you were living outside, anywhere outside the city, that you're probably in a high area here. What are you going to do? You can talk about that and anything else on your mind too. Hi, this is Charlene at American Industrial Door. Well, I got your drink and money Turn up your doorbell Since it would have been Ronnie Van Zandt's 76th birthday, we'll play some more, as Randy had suggested, more Leonard Skidder music as bumpers this morning. Curtis Lowe, The Ballad of Curtis Lowe.

I got to tell you, I know that everybody always talks about Sweet Home Alabama and Free Bird, Free Bird. I heard Free Bird so many times. I mean, I like it still, but it's like, man, I'm done, right? You know, I heard it. I was in classic rock radio, played it like four million times. And so usually when I had to go to the bathroom, which told you how often I had to go to the bathroom. But I'm kind of done with that one.

But The Ballad of Curtis Lowe is my favorite. Is my favorite Leonard Skinner song. And I know that's kind of one of those weird ones that nobody ever thought about. And it was only performed in concert one time. Only one time. And it never made it after that. And to me, it was just such an interesting mind picture of life in the South of a little kid going there and hanging out with, well, a drunk guitar player, guitarist

named Curtis Lowe, playing the black man's blues. Just good stuff. Anyway, it is 21 after seven. Holly Morton, Josephine County Republican Party Chair. Haven't talked to you for a few days, Holly. How are things shaking up? Are the hissy fits placated? Have there been enough people sacrificed to the volcano of the progressive left's, you know, hissy fitting in Joe County to quiet things down or not? What do you think?

No, it appears it'll never end. You know, we just had the commissioner situation where John West was recalled, of course, and then the two remaining had to pick someone else. So they decided they were going to pick the most experienced guys. So they lined up, I guess, three of the most experienced guys. I know Herman and Bear Sugar and Andreas Bleck, two fabulous guys, ended up in the final cut, and then they finally chose Andreas Bleck. And, oh, you know, they're still having a fit.

Now, I was told, though, that the reason that – I was told from an insider that the reason that they chose Bleck, though, is that this is about trying to avoid another recall effort. Would you agree or not on that? I think there's no way to avoid another recall effort. Really? No, they're immediately, they're already saying they're going to do a recall. It doesn't matter.

Anybody that wasn't the, you know, somebody they wanted is, you know, they're going to try to recall them right away. And I imagine they'll start it right away. Did they want Pat Fahey or someone like that? Is that who they were looking for? They wanted Pat Fahey. They wanted Colleen Martin, perfectly lovely woman. But, you know, they didn't want to have somebody who was not experienced, you know. And Colleen's not experienced. She's experienced with the Chamber of Commerce. And Pat Fahey is just, you know, that's a no. Too far to the left.

And, you know, there were several others that just, you know, they weren't elected by citizens. You know, and Andreas Fleck wasn't elected, but he's a local businessman, very smart. Well, he did serve as the fill-in commissioner for a while, too. He served for months, yeah. And he did a good job. He's a local businessman, very smart. Well, he did serve as the fill-in commissioner for a while, too. He served for months, yeah. And he did a good job. He's a very fine man. You know, just a wonderful, moral man. And I know he's just what we would be looking for.

So I'm real happy with the selection. I think it'll be fine. Okay, now I wanted to ask you, though, about the hissy fit over the library. Because, of course, my thing about all library systems here in Southern Oregon are essentially Democratic Party outposts, no matter what they say. You know, a friend of mine termed them the Democratic mosques, you know, so kind of a radical jihadist kind of take on it. I know that's tarring with a broad brush. I know there are good people working within it. But yeah, this is um i find it astounding i went and caught recorded hello are you there yeah i'm here what what was that i do not know what that was

might have been me oh oh okay all right something about recording the call was like okay i'm recording your call too so we're recording each other all right now um the point being though is that everything the hissy fitters uh broke out and just went nuts over the josephine county library district actually paying rent paying something for the building it's in other than a dollar a year and yet i commented on a grants pass a facebook page about this i said guys your county's broke right now right you know they're looking for looking for pennies underneath the couch cushion right now, and you have a library which is guaranteed, what is it, a $0.33 or so per thousand district cost per thousand on the property tax?

Isn't that what they get right now? They're trying to build a big, fancy library. So they've got about $900,000 put away. Okay, so they already know that they want to build another library, all right? So they have money to build another library, but they don't want to pay the county for its existing library building. They want to pay anything for that at all? No. Well, they pay $1, but the problem now is there's some leaks and maintenance issues.

A bunch of money is going to have to be invested. Oh. And what they'd like them to do is either pay rent. I mean, they can continue on if they pay. And we've got to get those repairs made. Otherwise, you know, the permanent damage to the building. Nobody wants to hear the fiscal end of things, Bill. It's all about politics.

Oh, okay. And the only reason why they're going after the library is because it's about revenge, right? I'll bet that's what it is. Is that what they're saying? It's everything that way. The permanent victim status, you know, that seems to be what's happening. And they had been invited to come in and talk about it several different times, and they never showed up.

The meeting that I went to, they were— Well, to be fair, though, they were saying, though, that they were asking for meetings when times when the attorney for the district couldn't show up, though. That's the way I was told to me about that. You know, I'm sure there are lots of different reasons, but several different states were proposed. So I think what they've done is they've said, look, we're going to go ahead and we're going to, you know, give you a 30-day notice and, you know, let's get you to the table. So I think that'll get them to the table. But, you know, right now there's just a lot of muddling of each other going on. You know, in retrospect, do you think it would have been wise, given the drama that's been

going on, maybe have waited a month or two to have sprung that? Well, you know, it probably would have been wise, but you just can't. I think the best thing to do is just get people to the table. And you do what it takes to get them to the table, in my opinion. I don't see anything wrong with it. You invited them to talk about it, and they don't seem to want to talk about it. Well, essentially, the library district got a sweetheart deal and has been a mooch for a long time on county property. And they're not a part of county government.

They're their own district, and that's the important thing. if the district was actually a part of the Josephine County Commission purview, in other words, if it was actually part of the government itself, that would be different. But it's not. And so it's no different than anybody else trying to rent some county property. Wouldn't that be the case, really? Right. Well, I think what people are not getting is that we used to have a very prosperous county when we had the timber industry.

When we lost that, all of a sudden, we lost all these revenues. We didn't used to have to have all the taxes. Yeah, and then you have to end up doing these bond levies to pay for everything that used to be paid for by the trees. But the trees are only for burning in the summertime. You know that, right? Yeah, of course, right. Of course. So there are these issues, and people are just having a terrible time adjusting to that.

Everybody thinks everything's about politics. They don't understand the fiscal elements of it. And when it comes to change of personnel and that kind of thing, we have to, just like any family would or any business would, we have to cut down the expenses or we're absolutely going to go broke, or all of the citizens are going to have to step up and pay more and more and more of the bill that kind of reminds me a little bit in this argument over at providence i know it's not exactly apples to oranges comparison but uh you know the union of course the nurses union you know wants more money and they want more nurses hired so that it's better for the patients i understand that i can appreciate that i know they all work hard and yet at the same

time uh providence hospital has been losing money for the last three four years right lots of money and so you got to figure it's like hey we may have this need you may have this want but it doesn't matter there's only so much in the kitty right the same thing's happening in josephine county at a smaller scale i guess really sort of the same you know problem of people that just don't make enough money, so they keep putting more and more and more stuff on their credit card, and pretty soon they reach a breaking point. Same kind of a concept.

People don't see what's coming down the road is if you overspend. If you're spending money you don't have at some point, you're going to reach a point where you've got to pay it all back. Yeah, well, I'm glad to. I'm hoping that things calm down because I'll tell you, Josephine County, I've joked with you before. Josephine County politics over the last couple of years especially has been like student council. Student council and clicks and hissy fits and screeching.

It's really weird. I'm hoping we can calm down there. Wouldn't that be great if we just kind of pulled together? It would be great. You know, I try to avoid it, but it's hard. I see my name in print in a very unflattering way. Well, you're a very, very, very, very bad person, according to what I'm reading online about you. So I don't even know why I'm talking with you, Holly. I'm teasing you. You know that, right?

Right. Okay, good. Now, let's talk about the good stuff. Now, Trump inauguration, you're going to have a watch party in Joe County on Monday, right? We are. It's going to start at 8.30 in the morning. It's a brunch. We're charging $12 to come in and have a nice brunch, watch it on the big screen TV, and hobnob with fellow patriots. It'll be a great time. We have such a neat group right now. Hard working. They really care about this community. And it'll be a great time to watch the president be inaugurated yeah and the josephine county democrats will be in mourning i would imagine someplace or we're coming up with

strategizing plans on how to resist trump because trump is coming after us over the next uh four years well bless their hearts they still think something's going to happen to keep it to keep him from being inaugurated oh really oh yeah you Oh, yeah. You hear that all the time. If you're online, you'll see people think, ah, something's going to happen. They're going to do this, or their 14th Amendment, or they've got something up their sleeve. There's no way he's ever going to get inaugurated.

Oh, okay. Well, a little bit of delusion, it's okay. But people are entitled to their delusions, I guess. Holly, I appreciate you sharing the latest update there. So everything's going to be okay with Andreas in the county commission, you think? Everything's fine with that? Well, I think they've got a great team right now, and I think they're going to do an excellent job.

That's my personal opinion about it. We'll see how it rolls. And you're sticking to it. All right. Thanks, Holly. Good hearing from you. All right. Bye-bye.

Holly Morton once again, and she is the chair of the Josephine County Republican Party. 7.31. By the way, tomorrow I'm going to be talking with Colleen Martin and Joyce. And, of course, they're now the new leadership team at the Jackson County Republican Party. And they're going to be doing a watch party of some sort, too. So both counties are going to be doing a lot of celebrating. So we'll have that all coming up. K4VN 016551. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Streamed on KMED.com. Appreciate you listening this morning. Bob Hart will be joining me here

about a half hour. We're going to be talking about the land use consultant world and what are we going to do about this whole situation involving the fire map letters which have come out. It's just absolutely atrocious what has been going on. And maybe he'll have a tip or two for us. And so that'll be about a half hour from now. By the way, Commissioner Colleen Roberts just text messaged me and said, Bill, Colleen Roberts, not Colleen Martin. Wrong county, too many Colleens. Yeah, we do have a little bit of that. Did I say Colleen Martin

was coming in tomorrow morning? Sorry about that, Commissioner. So it's definitely Commissioner Roberts who will be coming in along with Joyce from the Jackson County Republican Party. So there we go. And we're also going to be talking about we're also going to be talking about we're also going to be talking Friday with the

Forrester. The Forrester who took over for Merv George on Friday. So we're going to kind of keep you up on some Forrest news and Forrest care news, etc. etc. Keeping you informed as much as possible. By the way, Calvin called me after the show. Listener Calvin called me

and he is a mail deliverer. And there was an email of the day that, uh, that came in and a person was saying, how is it that the state is getting all of these letters out there in registered mail? And I don't have a super, I don't know if I am going to explain this right, but I wrote a few notes from the phone call they got and And the way the deal was cut between the state of Oregon, ODF, and the Postal Service is that they would scan these letters, and these certified letters would be technically accepted by the mail carrier. There were so many thousands of these letters coming out that to have done the registered mail the standard way there's just no way that the postal service could have done certified letters in the standard way of going

up and getting you to sign for it so they ended up coming up with a special deal for these particular letters okay of the regular certified mail option so that's what calvin told me and i really appreciate you let me know about that calvin because yeah i was wondering how did he do that because normally you know certified you gotta gotta sit there and and sign for it but not in this particular case all right all right news brought to you by millet construction specializing in foundation repair and replacement get on solid ground visit millet construction.com From the KMED. No matter the season.

19 before 8, R.J. Rogers joins me here on KMED and R.J. Rogers earned his MBA from the College of Business and Leadership. He lives in Pennsylvania. Long time researcher into the mafia, the American Cosa Nostra. And you can follow him

online at R.Jogers6 at Twitter, or X as the case might be. He has a brand new book out there, The Dawn, 36 Rules of the Bosses. How you doing, RJ? Great to have you on. Fantastic. Great introduction. You know, RJ, I really enjoy, I don't know what it is or what it says about my personality. I have always found the makeup of the Mafia books, Mafia movies. Of course, Godfather, one of my favorite movies.

I don't know how much truth there is to that kind of stuff. Could you comment on that before we dig into the other aspects of The Dawn in what you've done with this book? Godfather, one of the quintessential productions that I would say closest resembles the research of looking at various historical points, for sure. All right, so it is not just a script then. There's a lot of truth to what was going on in that movie. The key to that movie was Francis Coppola. He was a second-generation Italian. He had a little, I would say they make it a little more romantic than it really is.

But they do focus on the hierarchy, the very high points within the mob, the boss level and the concierge on the boss level. And that's pretty close, I'd say. It's pretty well done from what I read.

Yeah. Is the Cosa Nostra different from the Mafia? Are they one and the same, or are the different names for the same thing? Mafia was never the name of it. That was a name made up by the FBI and the media. Oh, okay. The actual name was Cosa Nostra.

They were actually offended by the name Mafia. Cosa Nostra translates to this thing of ours or our thing, but they never referred to it as Mafia. Even people who flipped and testified sat on the stands like, I never heard nobody in this life ever refer to us as a Mafia. That's interesting. I didn't know that until reading this book. And I've been digging into it. I'm about a third of the way through it right now, and really enjoying the history of Gotti and some of the other, you know, learning some of this. Why did you do this? What was it about this? Because there's been about a million books on this, but this one has a different feel. What were you hoping to accomplish with this one?

You just tickled my heart when you said it has a different feel. I guess that's why I did it, because I do enjoy reading. I do enjoy the history, and I find the history of the mafia very intriguing as to how people came here with fifth-grade educations and speaking broken English with no social or economic standing, but they made a billion-dollar organization. But all the books you buy are just various historical pieces and profiles of the history, but there's never really been a social behavior study. There's never been a book that delves into the psychology of a gangster, the psychology of the mafia. And this book here explores the social element of it. So this is like the first psychology book ever written on this life. If you were to take a look

at a typical member of the Cosa Nostra, the various five families in the United States back in the time, is there a very common psychological profile that you could say, hey, this is the type of personality that would tend to do this and do well? Or were there different types? It takes all types to make a world, so to speak. Well, I think that the psychology has been very consistent from its inception until present time. I think the psychology transfers out to any people who are high-achieving or highly ambitious

or trying to make their way to the high side of the hierarchy, to make their way to the upper point. I think the mindset to achievement is very similar in all people. Hmm. Is it a situation here where, you know, I know that when I would read other books and they would talk about Cosa Nostra, and I look at you in The Dawn, 36 Rules of the Bosses, and when we think of it, we think of the violence. That's what most people think of when they think of the organized crime back of this era here. And was it as violent as they claimed, or is it something that Hollywood kind of amplified, or is it really one of those things where the violence was like the last thing they wanted to do? Because, you know, the supposedly bad-for-business kind of thing. How do you see that?

Yeah, very over-exaggerated. That's just the part that grabs everybody's mind and attention, and that works good in a Hollywood film. But if they were just killing nonstop all the time, the mob would have been erased long. It would not have existed for 100 years in this country. No, it was just the rules of the mafia is make money. How do we make money? And killing people, that kind of gets in the way of making money. Have they killed? Absolutely. Did they have harsh rules where you paid with your life for your penalties? Absolutely. But it was more

about brokering a deal or a lot of extortion, a lot of deal-making, a lot of connections and friendships and sit-downs and discussions. And a lot of it, a lot of it, it's just a group of guys drinking coffee and having a drink and laughing about the game. And not all that dissimilar from everybody else. I think people think of it as this high-strung environment. But how I look at it, that's not the reality of it at all. Of all the people that you profiled in The Don, 36 Rules of the Bosses, who do you find the most interesting and why? Which one strikes you as the most interesting?

Frank Costello. Really? I find him fascinating because he really embodies the 36 rules at the highest level. He is very rare. This is why I find him interesting. He was multiple different personalities. He was the personality that mattered as to what the time called for. So very rare can a mafia boss assume wealth and power

and then be okay with relaxing and walking away from it and letting somebody have it. It's a very sacred rank to make it to the boss of a family, and you never give it up. It's like being the president of the United States. You work your whole life for it, and you never give it up, even when your polls are bad. In most cases, you die on the ballot. That's why Joe Biden did not want to step down, because it's to your honor to die on the ballot. That's why Joe Biden did not want to step down, because it's to your honor to die on the ballot. You go up, you've fought too hard to get there. It's prestigious. You don't give it up.

Same as a mafia boss. You die in war. You go out on the mattresses. When there's a coup in the family or there's a war between two families, you fight to retain what you worked so hard for. Yeah, not all that different. Not even all that different. Not even all that different from so-called legitimate government. It's very interesting.

I can't wait till I get to the Costello part of the history, all right? R.J. Roger, thanks for sharing a few minutes. Like I said, this is a very different book about the Cosa Nostra. It's The Dawn, 36 Rules of the Bosses, and I'm going to enjoy finishing that, okay? Be well. Thanks for having me join the show a little bit. Thank you. It is 11 before 8 on K 993 kb xg and we will go to the mattresses or your calls you know what we could actually do here uh let's go to the diner 62 real american quiz before we go back to the mattress of your calls on the issues of the day all right if you have not won

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Good stuff. Everybody's mouth waters. And they say, hey, you won. Let me go to Jerry. Jerry the Bull, you are first up this morning. How you doing, Jer? Doing good. Jerry, let's see if we can make it even better.

It was today in history, Wednesday, January 15th of 1919. The molasses burst from a huge tank at the United States Industrial Alcohol Company building in the heart of Boston. The United States Industrial Alcohol Building located on Commercial Street near North End Park in Boston. This molasses tank was 58 feet high, 98 feet in diameter. It's a big tank. It was used to store molasses, which eventually was shipped to a distillery in diameter. It's a big tank. It was used to store molasses, which eventually was shipped to a distillery in Cambridge. The question is,

how many people died in the Great Molasses Flood? I don't think I've ever done this question. So, was it A, 2? Was it B, 11? Was it C, 21? Was it D, 31? Or was it E, 41 people?

There were people that died in the Great Molasses Flood. How many made it? Or how many died or didn't make it? Well, Bill, it's a pure guess. I'll just say two. You'll say two. I'm sorry, Jerry the Bull. It was more than two.

But I appreciate you trying. Let me go to Wally. Hello, Wally. It was more than two. But I appreciate you trying. Let me go to Wally. Hello, Wally. It was more than two. I'm going to guess 21. You're going to guess 21. Hey, it's a good day for you. You're a winner!

Oh, wow. Yep, it was 21. It was a fiery, hot molasses flood, ultimately killed 21 people. Heard about 150 more, Wally. And this was a big deal back at the time. Close to lunchtime, Boston was having some warm weather, and the workers were loading freight cars within the building. And suddenly the bolts holding the bottom of the tank blew out,

and the bolts shot out like bullets, and the waves swept away the freight cars, caved in the building's doors and windows. And the few workers in the building's cellar had no chance. The liquid poured down and overwhelmed them. And the huge quantity of molasses flowed into the street outside. It knocked over the local firehouse, pushed over the beams of the elevated train line, and then drowned and burned five workers at Public Works. Like I said, 21 people, dozens of horses killed.

It took months to clean the molasses up from the streets of Boston. And by the way, this disaster also produced an epic court battle. There were more than 100 lawsuits filed against the United States Industrial Alcohol Company. And they paid out more than a million bucks in liability claims. And that was a big amount of money back in 1919 when a million dollars really meant something so wally it's a 20 gift certificate from diner 62 but still you'll enjoy it okay hang on already yeah all right and we will do this again friday we'll have another diner 62 real american quiz looking for your next adventure this is the bill myers show

we're going to have a lot of good conversation coming up here in the next few because bob hart This is the Bill Myers Show. and maybe he'll have a tip or two for us, and I hope that could be of use to you. Okay, so keep the number in mind, 770-5633. Let me go to Miner Dave. Miner Dave, are you back in the Iron Gate? Are you still hanging around waiting for your house to get rebuilt or something new to be put in? Well, I've got a trailer donated to me, but I need – I'm supposed to have a generator donated. To make the heater work i need electric power it's only dc but um you need i need to be able to plug it into a generator so i can keep the battery charged until i can get a solar panel up i have but that's a little complicated because i need more batteries

and i need batteries aren't cheap by the way, that's the most expensive whole part of this. Outside of having the right control box that we would call a capacitor bank, you know, to be able to have it last any long time. Now, Dave, this is not

Conspiracy Theory Thursday. No, I know. But you were saying, when I was talking with Holly Morton, who called in from the Republican Party, Josephine County Republican Party, she's the chair up there. And during that phone call, something broke into the line and said, this call is being recorded. Right. And you said that's President Trump? I'm saying it's an aid from President Trump because he's looking at defending the counties against the state, sanctuary state. And he's going to ink bills out with county commissioners and county leaders so that if they defy the state, they'll get the Justice Department to defend them. Why would President Trump be recording our phone call when he could just as easily record?

He's trying to identify if he's got support to actually do that. Okay, I'm trying to understand this one. You know, there are many wild claims that come into this show. This is one of the wilder ones. And, of course, for all I know, usually the difference between a conspiracy theory on the program and maybe it being confirmed is about a month, usually. Sometimes two months. It just depends. All right.

I just don't know why they would bother recording the phone call and then putting a note on it. Two-thirds of the state is red and they voted for uh him okay okay so he's uh so so the trump so the incoming trump administration is surveilling us on the way um even though they're not in power yet okay well they're they're they're not doing anything illegal because they're not going to rebroadcast your copyrighted material they just wanted to be able to listen to it and gauge things. Well, you know, he could just download it very easy. It's absolutely free on BillMeyersShow.com and KMED.com.

All right, Dave, I just want to try to understand that. That is one of the more unusual claims. I love it. Thanks for the call. So, well, if you're not being surveilled by the government, then you're a nobody, right? I guess. Let me go to line two. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Hey, Bill, it's Lucretia. Lucretia, this is perfect. After that last call, it's perfect. What's on your mind?

Oh, good. Oh, good. Okay. Hey, I was reading a John Rappaport article, and he said Gavin Newsom promised he'd uh burn over a million acres so that you know he could reduce the stress you know threat of fire he only burned 36 000 yeah they haven't been they haven't really good you said i'm a little bit mixed mixed on this though because i've heard a lot of talk about well we need to burn the forest more because that's what we get from the professional arsonists known as the collaboratives here in southern oregon the problem with burning of talk about, well, we need to burn the forest more because that's what we get from the professional arsonists known as the collaboratives here in Southern Oregon. The problem with burning the forest is that there's a lot of nastiness in the air that comes from a lot of that too.

Yeah, I know. I asked Ed about that. But it's interesting because, you know, and I'm looking at the jet stream right now, about 500 helipackles, and you can see it's interesting because you know and i'm looking at the jet stream right now about 500 helipackles and you can see it's just turning it's going right up you know into canada and then coming right back and literally the middle of the country now rogue weather will say that that is a ridge which is built up no no that does not help but you don't go all the way to the middle of the country and do it you know 180 and come back out and then turn back around. Okay. Now, all I'm going to say – now, I've said this before since we've slid into conspiracy theory Thursday on Wheels Up Wednesday.

This is – the borders have been blurred here today. This was not something I planned, all right all i'm saying is that if we have uh our our favorite globalists and or government agent cabalists that are in charge of the uh pushing the weather buttons i need you to find out who they are so we can place an order and get the weather that we want okay no i i sent you about um three pages of no no no i'm not talking about who's doing it we want to find out we just want to find out we need to put the order in okay we need to get some nice rain and snow in the winter and we'll make it maybe about 85 degrees and sunny in the summer how about that could we could we get the order in just place an order well the airport wanted to control the weather so i would say it's our air force well usually it's the air when the air when the airports are

trying to control the weather it's usually to get rid of fog during that kind of stuff, seeding the clouds. No, no, no. They want to control the weather, all the weather by 2025. And, you know, Trump just gave another $800 billion when he first came into the Air Force or the Space Force. But that's part of the thing. I think you mean $800 million. I don't think he gave them $800 billion, right? I think he was. I think you mean $800 million. I don't think he gave them $800 billion. I think he was. I think when he first

came in. $800 billion would be about one-fourth of the government expenditures. I'll look it up for you. Okay, you do that. Thanks, Lucretia. Thanks for starting off Conspiracy Theory Thursday early.