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Episode Date: January 16, 2026

Capt. William E. Simpson from Wildhorse Fire Brigade digs into a new peer-reviewed report indicating wildfire smoke even MORE injurious to health than earlier thought. Open phones follow.

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Mr. Wild Horse, that would be Captain Bill Simpson in about 10, 15 minutes or so. We'll be digging into the wildfire season and the wildfire response, you know, about this new peer-reviewed report that he put out there. People are liking what he's having to say and having to do with the dangers of the smoke, something to keep in mind, all right? I'm kind of intrigued, though, with this firefighting drone thing that Ron and Simon were talking about here. It was a few minutes ago and talking about bringing in Ukraine military drone. demilitarizing them and then repurposing them for civilian wildfire fighting purposes. And I'm kind of intrigued with that. Okay, so you take the rocket launchers off and everything else.

And I wonder if there is almost a generic kind of attachment that could be figured, like a generic attachment program or a system that could be figured out because I'm thinking about, well, now this is a very low-tech example of it, but I have one of those Ryobis' strength. string trimmers, you know, a couple of those Ryobis string trimmers, and you can put about 10 or 12 different type of attachments on the end of it. Here's the, you know, the motors driving it, and then, you know, that one generic attachment, you can put all sorts of different purposes, purposeful tools on it, whether it's a pole saw or, you know, a, what do they call those things, not just a string trimmer, but an edging tool, you know, things like that. I don't know,

But think about that. Back to the phones here, Brian, you wanted to talk about last night's Joe County meeting here. I understand it was an interesting affair. Go ahead. Yes, it was, speaking of wildfires. The Confligation Act has not yet been enacted for what's happening in Josephine County, but give it time, I guess, huh? Yeah. It was rather interesting how the Democrats and the indivisible group was

pretty organized. It's coming with a lot of their members last night. The leader of the Democrat Party was there, and the leader of Indivisible was there. And they all got up one after another and got their three minutes of time to make up their little stories about why, you know, Chris needed to go away. And a lot of it was all lies. Well, mostly Chris needed to go away because Chris needed to go away because we need the staff of Josephine County and other people to bring in a more pliable commissioner. That's my opinion, but we'll see how that goes. Just my opinion. Yeah.

So the most impressive thing last night, and Herman talked about this a little bit earlier, is at the end of the meeting, when they called the end of the meeting, or right before they called the end of meeting, Chris took notes all throughout the entire meeting of every single person that spoke. And he kept track of every single comment made. And then he replied to every single person for or against that they commented last night. And he really, really exposed a lot of this left-wing nonsense, especially indivisible. John West got up and spoke about it as well. People in this county really need to see that their main agenda is not about removing Chris Barnett. Well, it is. But, I mean, it has nothing to do with him personally.

No, it would be whoever the majority of Josephine County elected, I think, that Indivisible would. Because the majority is not going to elect the majority of Josephine County being a solidly red county is not going to elect something that will be palatable to the indivisible types. So you can get a few people, plus some disaffected Republicans to get involved with this and remove those people. And it just kind of keeps the chaos going. All right. That's just my opinion. The way it's going, you can disagree with me. or agree, all right?

Thanks for the call there. Let me go to, I don't know who's here. Hi, good morning. Welcome. Hello. Hey, Bill. Yeah, it's Lucretia. Hey, Lucretia.

Go ahead. What's up? Hey, I thought it's something that would be really great for those drones. And I thought the other day, I don't know if it's real, but I know everything's frequency and vibration, and they use the sound to put out fires. Oh, okay. So, like, yeah, using sound vibration to, to, uh, to, starve the fire of oxygen. I have seen technology working with that. That's a very interesting

point you brought up. Yeah. Because otherwise, they don't really trust them. Everything's going so private. That's the only thing that I would trust that they would use and be doing. Yeah, yeah, as long as we don't have drones being used to start fires for nefarious purposes, and don't tell me that that couldn't be done, too. Right, right, because we know what they want. Yeah, interesting, though. Now, what Is it an ultrasonic technology? I'm trying to remember. I just saw it one time, and I didn't really look into it.

Do you recall what that technology was? No, I have no idea. It was it just a little fire on the cement that they, and it created, and then he had this round thing, and it just put out a sound. And I know they control the hurricanes and the tornadoes by sound. I know that's in their patents, and that's what people were hearing. Well, once again, though, just because there's a patent, doesn't mean that every time you get a hurricane. We've had hurricanes way before globalist weather controllers were there, though.

You do know that, right? Absolutely. All right. Just kind of keeping you on the street and a straight and arrow, Lucretia, here. Let me go to next call. Hi, good morning. Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, who's this?

Yeah, Bill? Yes. Yeah, good morning. I did get a chance to respond about the Renee Good shooting. But you know what? Once again, Bill, and I'll tell you, and I appreciate you taking calls, but you can't, all these other shows, you can't, they don't, they just talk over, they talk, talk, talk, talk. You can't get a call in because it's different time zone or different times. Yeah, no, I get that, but just go to your point, though, please. Yeah, yeah, yeah, everyone's parroting the same thing. Now, now you're saying, oh, the guy got hit, he got a leg injury, had internal bleeding. It's all a bunch of bull, Bill.

And you know this how? Why? Look at the videos. No, and you know this how. You know this how. I've seen the videos. Oh, okay. Yeah, I know.

The videos tell the truth. Tell the picture. Well, apparently I'm looking at the same video and I'm seeing a different story than you do. So I guess we're going to agree to disagree on that, but I think you're full of nonsense in this case. Okay. With all due respect. Appreciate the call. Take one more.

Hi. Good morning. KM.E.D. Hello. Good morning. My name's Ralph. Hello, Ralph. Welcome. Hey, I just wanted to touch based on the fact that we're focusing on putting out fires. What's about fire prevention and forest management before we get to the extreme fire situation?

I know it's kind of like a pipe dream not to have a fire, but what about the severity in the level of fire intensity because the forest around Southern Oregon and the region haven't been addressed? It is a complex. And why do you think that hasn't been addressed, though? Why do you believe it hasn't addressed? I will agree that it hasn't been addressed, but could there be legal challenges to any attempt to address it that doesn't involve hiring collaborators? Could that have something to do with it, maybe? That could. Absolutely. I'm talking, I guess, a lot of it on private property.

So that would probably be on public land, but addressing just the issues on private property would be pretty straightforward. it from what I'm seeing. Now, money and economics play a huge part in it, you know, because you don't have the money to do the project or you physically can't go up there and do it. So I think finances tend to be a big issue with that or around that. Yeah, I would agree. There is also the issue of fuel reduction, and that's something that Captain Bill Simpson, of course, has been focusing on. He's been looking at wild horses and various other things on the fuel reduction side of it. My concern, though, is that there's been this push on prescribed fire. I don't think you can burn enough of the prescribed fire, put enough prescribed fire on the millions of acres

in need of treatment without just smoking us out. Do you have an opinion on that? I do, Bill. So I have a huge opinion on that. I think there's a lot of incorrect burning going on. I think the fuels are not actually dry. I think that's a huge issue. A lot of the contractors that do the work, not to knock what they do, but a lot of the guys want to get paid. So I know how it works. You got bills. You put out a lot of effort and you have guys working for you. You want to get your pay.

But you got to let the fuels dry. You got to let them dry out and burn them in the fall. And you got to let them dry to the point where they're not smoldering. And it looks like you're having a barbecue with a biscuit. It's a good point. Thanks for the call. We appreciate that. And we'll keep it going here.

Captain Bill will be joining us here at a few. And we'll pick up that conversation continuing on Wildfire Smoke on the Bill Maher show on KMED. What's for dinner? It's a question. often pondered. At Freddy's Diner, we have answers. Captain William A. Simpson, ethologist, and, of course, a songwriter in this particular case. That's my favorite of all the ones that you've written, although you've had what, Tears of a Horse or something like. You've had all sorts of them, haven't you?

Captain Bill, welcome back from Wild Horse Fire Brigade. Good day have you on. Good morning, thanks, Bill. Yeah, I got two albums, 10 songs. Tears of the Cowboy is the title track, the second album that I put out. But, yeah, Copico Road is actually the second most popular. Tears of a Cowboy has taken over first place. Tears of a Cowboy, okay. All right. Yeah, yeah.

On Spotify, they have a Spotify country spotlight, and the fans are the ones that vote to see who's up in the first place there. And I got put on that list, so tears of a Cowboys up there. And, of course, you use all of the stream revenue, whatever it happens, people who buy it to help take care of the wild horse. the Wild Horse Fire Brigades. And I wanted to talk to you about wildfire a bit here today. A little bit earlier, I ended up talking with Ron Gordon and Simon Weibel,

and they are partnering in a foundation to work on firefighting drones, actually taking drone technology from the Ukraine and repurposing war drones to, setting backburns, doing things like that, and ground drones that could carry equipment, various places where cars and fire trucks and various other big heavy machinery couldn't go. And I'm kind of intrigued by that. And to the point of the reason why we need to think about such matters so deeply is because of the danger to our collective health here in southern Oregon and northern California from these wildfire threats. Isn't that the case? Well, yes and no.

Okay, first of all, I think this whole focus on firefighting, you got 99. percent of the energy and tax dollar is going to firefighting, which comes after they missed an opportunity for prevention. And quite frankly, you know, my herd of horses out here, I got 200. My property is already managed. I'm ready for fire season already. My fuels are grazed down. Things look clean. I have a fire defensible landscape. I'm talking miles around me. So, you know, the thing is, is this whole thing, monetizing fire has become this business. that's killing right now, according to the new data, 36,000 people a year die prematurely in the western U.S. because the wildfire smoke.

Well, that doesn't surprise me at all. You have a peer-reviewed report here that's out here that you ended up putting out recently about the toxicity of the wildfire smoke. And I would also have to add, isn't it also the toxicity of the prescribed fire, too? We have to talk about that, don't you? Yeah, absolutely. The American Chemical Society put this out. It's not some Mickey Mouse deal.

This is a big deal. And they said prescribed fire and wildfire, same situation because the reason is, okay, the reason, Bill, it's about pyrochemistry and the different resulting compounds you get at different temperatures of reaction. So basically, when you do prescribe burns on areas with prodigious fuel, you're going to get an abnormally hot fire, and you're going to get these new volatile organic compounds that are different than T's. 2.5 that are deadly. And by the way, PM2.5, that's particulate matter for those that don't know. And it's the size of it in microns, correct? I want to make sure that we understand it's very tiny, very tiny particles that go deep within your lung, right? Right.

And now we've got, for seven, six, seven years I've been telling people there's something more going on than just PM2.5. And I've been writing about it. I've cited all the articles in what I just published to show people that I've been ahead of the curve. This isn't about me boasting or bragging. I do the homework, and you know that, Bill. So I've been doing the homework now night and day for years and years and years. And what's come out of it is that now this brand new report, shiny new bomb, they call it a bombshell at American Chemical Society, the smoke is now they're looking at it. They go, oh, my goodness, there's stuff in here and it's deadly. And they're just starting to touch. They also say that we're just

touching, scratching the surface of what we know, it looks like it's worse than we think, because the death rate that we're citing 36,000 a year in the Western United States only, and costing us about $242 billion a year, okay, $242 billion a year, and these are health-related costs, loss of economic income. Well, I think about your late wife. You've lost a wife, you know, over this when she got really sick in the wildfire, didn't she? That's right. And here's the thing about that.

She was in the very best hospitals, okay, three of them in Portland, Oregon, because the very, the best of the best, this was like the Super Bowl team of doctors and neurologists couldn't figure out what was wrong with her. And then finally, I mean, she was at OHSU. She was at St. Vincent's neurological wing that people from Mayo Clinic and John Hopkins there. And they're all scratching their heads. They did every test in the book four times. They took gallons of blood out of her, you know, spinal flu. CDC flew in, and everybody's scratching their heads, and I go, look, you know, this happened right after the fires.

It's got to be related to the fire. Finally, a scientist at Indiana Medical University joined the team, and she said, yeah, I'm studying firefighters and go for veterans. And what's happened is the chemicals in these super hot fires now caused genetic changes. And what happened is it can cause autoimmune deficiencies, autoimmune reactions, and cascaded autoimmune degenerative disease. So for some people, they get exposed to these intense wildfire smoke periods that we have quite often here in Southern Oregon and Northern California in the summertime.

And a lot of people are able to make through it, but other people, their body starts attacking itself, the autoimmune is what you're speaking of. Reactions to the chemicals too, sure. And you don't have to be close to the fires either. You can be 300 miles away and get dead. So that's the other thing. The smoke travels, and these compounds are in the air, and they're deadly. And so the thing is, is this, okay, we have to focus more on prevention.

Yeah, drones are exciting. And, oh, by the way, I could tell you about a whole bunch of big peccadillos that are wrong with this guy's plan to bring in these drones. You know, I'm a commercial helicopter pilot. I've flown commercially Jet Rangers and Hughes 500. And I can tell you what. There's no helicopter pilots that are going to fly into an area with a swarm of drones flying around with a bunch of ground off. operators. I mean, it's... Well, no, I don't think they would be flying in.

Of course they wouldn't be flying in there, but there be some cases in which they wouldn't be using the helicopter. It's the way it looked like to me, you know. Well, it's an air traffic control nightmare bill. And the other thing is the drone doesn't have a situational awareness that a helicopter has with a pilot who's got his head on a swivel, who's got all kinds, you know, they still cannot replace the human brain and a human. pilot. That's why we still have humans flying most of the military missions and jets.

Well, you know, and you could be right, but we'll see. They're supposedly working on a proof of concept, and I would be, and I would be curious to see what they, what they bring to the table in a few months. They're talking about doing this, okay? Bill, again, that comes after we're already breathing the deadly smoke, okay? The key tactically, let's think logically. They're critical priority thinking here. You've got to prevent the fire, not let it happen. Oh, yeah, and then we've got the shiny, new, cool technology, you know, and we're not going to replace helicopters. No, I'm not talking about replacing helicopters or replacing prevention.

But the problem is, though, is that I don't think you can prevent it all. I don't care if you had a billion wild horses. You're not going to stop fires in the northwest here. We've been burning for millions of years, but you have to have multiple angles of attack here. You have to be able to attack a fire when it occurs, and you have to be able to do what you advocate, too. It's not one or the other, Bill.

You just made my point. We had fires for millions of years, but they were never catastrophic the way they are because we had an herbivory in place. We had deer, elk, and horses. The point is, is this. The plan does work. It works completely perfectly, and it works holistically across the entire landscape. When you have the herbivory present, you do not have these super hot fires, Bill. And that's what all the science says, 120 published studies around the world, okay?

So the bottom line is it does work. And the horses are the first baby step. We don't, let me put this in terms that people can understand. Okay. I've talked to when Victoria Christensen was the head of the United States Forest Service. She agreed with me on my plan. She said, yeah, I'd love to give you my, she says, I have 8,000 horses. I'd love to put them into your program.

She says, but you need to walk me through the steps of how we do this. And, of course, then she got replaced before we got it done. The thing is this, she said, you know, Bill, she said to replace, the grazing capacity of the deer missing just in California, you need 500,000 horses. Well, guess what? If we count every horse we have available in the United States today, the ones in holding and the ones remaining on the landscape,

we don't get there. We've got 120,000 all in. So it's a strategic first step. The next thing we've got to do is we've got to replace, we've got to let these native verteborers, the deer in the oak, and all them critters, come back. We need to let them breed. We're going to need another moratorium on hunting like we had in 1910. And that's the only way we're going to get there. Now, people can argue, well, you know,

I don't want to stop shooting stuff, so I'm going to shoot them until there's none left. And, and, oh, horses, you know, well, it's not the silver bullet. Well, it's not supposed to be. It's supposed to be the first step we can do immediately, and it's cost effective because, guess what, it's free. We own the horse. Their government, they're publicly owned animals. We could sit out and say, look, You know, there are animals. There's a law. You may transfer of Excess Animals Act. Any county, city, government or authority can get them.

You can put them out there. They become work animals under the law. And fire grazing is a work. It's a job. And they do their job year-round. And they start making a dent in the problem. But to say that, well, we can't solve it all in one-to-slow swoop. So let's not do anything.

That's not the way to approach it. And I wasn't advocating that. But, you know, but you're a one-note guy here on. herbivory and wild horse. I get that. I mean, that's your background, but I'll tell you what. I'm going to take a quick break and then people can ask you questions about this, okay? And we'll kick that around. Gapton William E. Simpson, conspiracy theory Thursday on the Bill Meyer show. Join in 7705-633. When your generator won't start or begins to run rough, every minute matters. Norpack power systems responds fast with certified technicians, dependable repaired.

You're hearing the Bill Myers show on 1063 KMED. We're talking wildfire, wild horses, toxic smoke. Captain William A. Simpson is with me this morning. We were talking wildfire fighting last hour. He's talking about preventing it beforehand. And Bill, we have people wanted to talk with you, comment about this. John here's here. John, you're on with Captain Bill Simpson.

Go right ahead. Yeah, I just disagreeing. Conflagations in the past, there was the record of the captain's log sailing to Fort Vancouver, where he sailed for three days, and there was a fire on the coast for three days sailing going north, been in the past. But I do agree that knocking it down with some horses would greatly, especially in the inland country, would help. All right. John, I appreciate the call. Thanks for that. and Captain Bill, and had a boy, and yet we've always had some conflagrations.

Would you agree with John on that? Yeah, I mean, we need normal wildfire. And yeah, there's always been fire, but it's a lot different today than it was then. I mean, again, for instance, the brand-new, shiny range management plan from the Cascades-Skiew National Monument, brand-new just came out last year.

When you read through it, every section that they're managing in the monument, they talk about fire. and when you read, there's a section on prescribed burn. And on the section for each area they're managing where it says prescribed burn, it says we cannot do prescribed burns because it will damage the landscape because of the thermal energy that will be expended into the environment. So we have to do trimming.

Basically, they have to do a mechanical management before they burn to prevent damage to the landscape. Which essentially means a whole bunch of collaborators weeding, right? Right? Yeah. Yeah, we eat guys with weed eaters and little helmets on out there, you know, I mean, they can't do millions of acres. I mean, and then the shocking thing is when you read the original range of energy plan from 2000, they go back and review what they've done.

Okay. And all that period of time, what is that? Like 20-some years. They've only actually reduced the fuel with mechanical methods on 2,000 acres. of the 80th, what is it now, 120,000 acres, you know, with the Obama land. So that's one out of 60 acres that was needed done. Okay. What could go wrong with such a plan?

Yeah, it's kind of what I was getting at. All right, let me go to Wild Salmon. Steve, you're on with Captain Bill. Go ahead. Take it away. Hey, yep. Hi, guys. Bill, you're right about the horses reducing the fuel loads,

but the fuel loads they're going to reduce are the, I don't know, they call it one minute or five-minute fuels to show. short-term fuels that burn up quickly and spread quickly. But the real problem with the high temperature is the heavy fuel load. Trees have a lifespan, and different trees have a different lifespan, but very few of the trees in Southern Oregon live on an average much more than about 110 years. So you're going to build up a fuel load some way, shape, or form unless you remove that. you're going to have these high-temperature fires.

All right. Thank you for the call, Steve. What would you say to that? He does make a point about the lifespan of trees. He's right. Well, he's talking about two separate things there. First of all, okay, combustion, oxidation combustion fire has to do with the surface area and the speed at which you can combust a flammable material.

And surface area is what controls the speed of that fire. It's like opening the damper on your stove. you introduce more air and you have the surface area available for the fire, then you can burn hot and fast. And so essentially, I would tell Sam and Steve that if you take the kindling out of your fireplace and you can have any logs you want in there, you're never going to light those logs. I can give you matches all day long. You're never going to light them because heavy fuels burns slower and cooler than grass and brush. Grass and brush are very hot burning.

It's like rocket fuel in the landscape. Any firefighter knows grass and brush fire. Two-thirds of all these deadly fires are grass-and-brush fires. Two-thirds of the fires period are grass-and-brush fires. The most deaths that we see in wildfires are from grass-and-brush fires. Paradise, for instance. Grass-and-brush fire, 86 people dead. That's more than all the people killed in all the forest fires in the last 10 years.

All right. And we'll want one fire. All right. And let's go to one more call here, and then we'll probably move along here to different things. There's a lot going on, conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi, good morning, caller. Who's this? Hello.

This is Kathy. Hi, Kathy. You're on with Captain Bill Simpson. Go ahead. How about adding in sheep and goats? Any thoughts on that, Bill? Yeah, I think all herbivores are good, but it's like any tool. You have to use the right tool in the right area.

So sheep and goats are invasive species ruminants. And so they do digest the seeds of plants and grasses. So you don't want unintended consequences by using the wrong herbivore in the wrong area. So what they'll end up doing is they'll destroy your cover crop or over time, and then you suffer catastrophic erosion. So, you know, if you're going to use them, you have to time it very carefully to after the grass and, you know, you've got all these plants and forbs and things that the landscape needs. You know, a lot of them are nitrogen-fixing forbs. So you cannot have ruminids out there grazing, especially invasive species ruminants, cattle, sheepcoats.

When the plants are seeding and dropping seed, you have to put them on late in the season, you know, in July, you know, here, this, this climate, probably July. All the seeds already been dropped on the ground. Otherwise, you end up with unintended consequences and erosion that damages the fishery. And on these fires, of course, they're damaging the fisheries because you burn off the cover crop. And then the winter rains come and all that mud goes down on the fish eggs and kills the salmon. And then they blame the dam. All right. Yeah, we don't want to blame the dam.

Well, they don't have the damn damn to blame anymore, okay? All right. Let me get one more call on this topic. And then we'll thank Captain Bill and also post his work. report here. I'm going to put that up on KM.80.com. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi, this is Scott from GP. Scott, go ahead. What's up? Yeah, I'm curious to wondering if anybody in government and your guys' experience and are dealing with them understands the aluminum that's strayed from the skies that's sucked up by all the trees and plants and

in the ground that helps accelerate the fires. because here a couple of years ago, they started talking about, oh, my gosh, the fires, they're acting differently. They're just going crazy and fast. And, of course, we now know that that's the aluminum that they've been dropping us. So I'm wondering if there's... Okay, now, what do you mean we know? See, I love that. How do we know, Scott?

Well, the testing that they've done in the trees, the different people, I wish I could send you the video. I don't have it in front of me now, but there's numerous videos out there where, Some of these guys have gone and collected samples and done the research on the fineness of the aluminum. But aluminum is one of the most common elements that we have on the earth, period. Right, but they're usually connected to other minerals in the ground, so they're not sitting there by themselves. And that's what keeps them from being sucked up by the trees. Bill, have you looked into that? That's kind of going down the chem trail story here, that a lot of

people have been concerned about. Any thoughts? Right. So, see, aluminum isn't changing the prodigious fuel loads. You know, we have to keep things as critical path thinking and logic. Okay, the reason we have catastrophic fire is because we have a collapsed herbivore, and we have prodigious fuel loading now. The grass and brush is out of control everywhere, okay, because these deer were ubiquitously keeping it down year-round, and we weren't paying attention to the value they have. You're looking at this at a more simple level rather than we've been sprued. spray to death, and hence the grass burns more.

Okay. It's the one, yeah, it's, you know, the bottom line is, is, yeah, maybe there's aluminum, maybe not, but that's not what's causing these fires. We know, we know what's causing these fires because there's been a million studies done, and all these same scientists, you know, and some of them don't even like each other, are all agreeing on this one thing that when the gerbivores collapse, that's a fact, when you don't have the critters that eat the grass and brush, it grows up, it gets dry in these longer, hotter summer,

because we're in a normal climate cycle. There's no climate conspiracy. The Earth changes temperature and climate. For millions of years, this has been going on. And right now we're in a warmer one, and it coincides with the collapse of the herbivore. So now all of this prodigious fuel all over the place is sitting there, ready for the first spark.

We cannot control human behavior. We cannot control lightning. We can control the fuel by application of herbivori. So the first thing we did is we got, you know, we got 70,000 lawnmowers in a government holding pen that we could put out to work. And they don't need supervision. They don't sue you. They don't need purrs or unemployment or anything.

They go out there and if they get eaten by the lions and bears, that's been going on two million years. And also you put them out there, by the way, it solves the wall problem. And really what you're talking about is rebalancing nature as best as you can is what you're talking about. Right. Okay. The government doesn't like it because they make $150 million a year holding these horses in jail. All right. I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll put your peer-reviewed report up there on the wildfire issue and your other, of course, and people can go to your side, wildhorsefire brigade.org. For the foundation on that. All right, Bill, we'll have you back here. I'm just running out of daylight now, but thanks for taking the calls, okay? You'd be well. Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you, Bill. All right. Captain William E. Simpson 838. We're going to go back on Iran here in just a minute, too. And some more open phone time on conspiracy theory Thursday. Have at it. This is the Bill Meyer show.

This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontana roofing services.com. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. Brother Louis, you wanted to get back on the Aran situation, Iran situation, rather. And you had mentioned earlier in the show that you're thinking that we're dealing with false flag stuff right now? Go ahead.

Absolutely, because it's perfect for conspiracy. But, you know, false flags are very common. And the CIA does them all the time. O'Sadda or Israel does them all the time. But this is why I just take you the link. And this is a professor who was raised in America, I mean, not raised. He was educated in America. He speaks perfect English.

He's a very staunch Iranian supporter, and he's blowing the whistle on this fake news that we're getting about Iran. And it's a seven-minute interview on something called channel 4.com. So this, now the thing is, though, what is the, since I can't play the seven-minute video on the air right now, I'm not going to do that. Well, people can call you for the link if they, I guess. I don't want people calling me for the link. I'll post it, okay, all right? Okay, he can post it. Yeah, so give me the meat of it, though.

You have watched it. Yeah, he says that there were peaceful protests for two days, and the government of Iran did nothing. And then agents moved in, foreign agents, and we can suspect who they are, and they started riots and shot 100 policemen or somewhere in that neighborhood of 100 policemen to blame and saying that there's thousands of bodies and 2,000 dead. And he says there's no information. And that's just hearsay. That's just, the government has not put out these numbers. And what the government has not been executing people? They were pretty noisy about the executing of people.

They may have been executing people, but they were people who caused the riots and who were shooting at policemen and trying to create this false frag impression that demonstrators are being killed. This is not true. Peaceful demonstrators were not even there anymore after the second day. it was a riot created by foreign agents, according to him, according to this guy. His name is Professor Mohamed Marandi, M-A-R-A-N-D-I, and people can look it up easily on just look up for Channel 4 News anyway.

All right. Now, I guess my point being, though, is, all right, which foreign agents? Because I know that I was dealing with someone earlier this morning. I was talking about Sean Ring, who was talking about the Washington Post links, the leaks rather, that seemed to indicate that Israel was going through Russia telling Iran that, no, we're not going to attack you at all unless you attack us first. Is that part of the false flag in your view? I suspect that it is that anything Israel is doing is probably false flag. In fact, they're probably trying to, did you mention something about they would not attack?

Unless Iran attacked first. If Iran attacks Israel, then we will attack Iran. But only if Iran attacks Israel. So then I think the plan might be, if I'm, this is my conspiracy theory, the plan might be to get Iran to attack Israel again and then call the U.S. in to say, hey, you've got to help us. We're your ally. And that's how they're going to, we all know this is not a conservative.

conspiracy that Israel has Netanyahu has been wanting to get us to attack Iran for 20 years or more. Yeah, that has been official policy. There's no doubt about that. Louis, I appreciate that. I'm going to put your link to the Iranian professor up on KMED.com. Appreciate the call, all right. 770KMED. It doesn't have to be about Israel or Iran. It could be about anything. But hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Let me try it again. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Minor Dave. Hi, Dave. Yeah, I wanted to say for all the conspiracy people on Kim Trills that, you know, Trump cut off U.S. aid, and they lost their financing. You don't see anybody talking about Kim Trills anymore because they're not in the sky.

You're thinking USAID was actually the chem trailing agency, really? Yeah, you know, I can pull a leg any time. Oh. But, you know. All right. I love that. All right, Dave. Thanks for the call.

770K. AmyD. It's his conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi. Good morning. Who's this. Yeah, Bill, this is why I wanted to call in today. The conspiracy is Paul Craig Roberts.

And what he really wants to share with the country and to wake up with Americans. I was watching a video he did on Venezuela, how we're stealing their oil and how Americans are fine with that. But I know it goes deeper. It was interesting. One of the conspiracies he told is, you know, when we supposedly Obama killed Osama, remember that story? Yes, I do. He knew somebody from that area, and the guy was a big food manufacturer guy that he was on his roof when we came in with two helicopters. and the helicopter that landed, they only spoke the local language and only people from that

area speak that way. They went in and got a guy, and then the other helicopter took off this one went up and it blew up. We didn't kill any Osama. It wasn't there. But he goes into this whole book he has right now, Empire of Lies, and I would love for you to have him on. Well, the Empire of Lies is Jack Cashel. No, this is Paul Craig Roberts' latest book. Okay, because Empire of Lies, I just talked with Jack Hatchell yesterday, and his book is Empire of Lies. That's interesting.

I'll check out Paul Craig Roberts. Okay. I'll send it to the Reagan. He's an interesting former Reagan administration grumpy guy. You know? He was stoked to what Reagan was doing, but then the banks, he said, undermined all their efforts leading to deficit. So, yeah, he's a real good guy.

Boy, I'll tell you, you brought a lot of conspiracy theory Thursday fodder there. Thanks for the call, Lucretia. 7-7-0-M-E-D, 7705-633. Hey, one of the float by you. President Trump considering the Insurrection Act enacting that, would you be in favor of that? That might be an interesting question. Get your take on it one way or the other.

Insurrection Act is a big club. He's been avoiding doing this. Should he do it in Minneapolis? 770 KMED. Hi, this is Cassie with Klazer drilling. Here, use the promo code Hannity. Terms apply. Hi, I'm Cassie from Clazer Drilling, and I'm on KMED.

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warning the state, actually, Minnesota that he's considering enacting the Insurrection Act, the Insurrection Act that could be put in place. And this would essentially allow him to put military, not National Guard, but military on the streets of Minneapolis. He's been holding off on this, I think, because of the political options and the optic. But what do you think? If you have an opinion on that, I'd love to get your opinion, please. Other than that, it is open phones on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Hi, good morning.

Who's this? Hello? Ted. Hello? Oh, hi, Ted. Morning, what's on your mind? I don't know. Hey, it's not necessarily a conspiracy theory, but I drive from my home and beautiful downtown Applegate, Oregon, population six when I'm home up to the Roseburg Veterans Hospital every week for treatment.

And, you know, we can't burn because we're just over the hump into Jackson County. You can't burn all winter because of the weather and all summer because. Yeah, the inversion. Yeah, it's just a bowl. Yeah. So I hit the freeway there in Grants Pass, headed north. and before you top that hill, there's a flash and sign fire activity ahead, and this has happened two weeks in a row. The state of Oregon, no dots out there because they're going to have lots of money as soon as they start charging us more for gas.

They're out there burning green, madrone, brush, and limbs. Can you imagine that? And the smoke is just booming out on the freeway and in the fog. Is that the fire that was out? I was driving up the Grants Pass the other day doing some work. and right when you get past Rogue River, it was choking smoke in the valley. Was that what that was? Was that all about that?

No, this one is north of Grant's Pass, and it's right on the freeway. I mean, it's right next to the freeway. Well, I guess, you know, when you're a state person, you can, well, you can do things that other people couldn't do at home, right? Yeah. Uh-huh. And anyway, that's the pebble in my shoe. I can't keep track of the days because I'm up here in Eugene getting up. operation. But can I put a plug in for the Veterans Hospital in Roseburg, Oregon?

Sure. Go ahead. Being treated well. That's absolutely the most caring group of people in the state organ. They are awesome. Glad to hear it. Thanks for sharing the good news. 770KMED. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, good morning, Bill. It's Scott at Eagle Point, Oregon, professional driver. Yes, Scott. Hey, I wanted to say I love, I love Wild Horse, Fire Brigade Bill. He's awesome. Blake Shelton, he really works with a lot of up-and-coming artists.

Call him. Find some way to get a hold of him. When I first heard that song of the Wild Horse that he did, it just made my eyes. I just cried. I grew up on a horse ranch at an Eagle Point. Matter of fact, I'm here right now looking out. side thinking, man, I need some horses on the property out here. So, conspiracy-wise, you know, I'm a big satchquatch guy. So I've been in the woods a lot, and I've seen a lot of things.

And I've also seen, and it's been 40 years, I've seen more of the black bear and satch activity come closer to towns. And, you know, fires are natural, but yes, we need the herbivores. knocking down the grass. So, yeah. Well, if they're going to be, if we're going to have Sasquatch coming closer to town, I can't wait for the game cameras to give us some proof on that. All right? How about that?

Yeah, yeah. I appreciate the call. Okay, let's hold the calls off here because, hey, we're going to do emails of the day. And emails of the day are sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry. Central Point Family Dentistry.com. Great people. And I just experienced just the amazing ease of a while you wake crown. No more having to send stuff out.

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specifically in the 30 to 60 hertz range. So this is like Improsound, really deep base, can extinguish small fires by creating powerful pressure waves that disrupt the oxygen supply to the flames, effectively shaking the fire apart without water or chemicals. I knew that I had seen some experimentation on that, and I just couldn't pull it off in time as we were talking on the show.

Okay, so thank you very much for that, Steve. All right, we have Hans Albuquerque who is writing this morning, What a joy. Congress has freed showerheads from evil water pressure constraints. This just-in showerheads are dancing in the bathrooms of America tonight, having overcome Biden-era regulations in a 226-197 vote by the House. Emancipation sprayization is now in effect. That's right.

They got rid of those. I've got to tell you, those low-flow showerheads are just kind of like eco-deturgence, translation doesn't work. Okay? Patrick says, Hey, Bill, just a take on the whole trans in female locker is when females are forced to endure trans in their locker rooms, is it possible to post a sign on the locker room door that reads,

Welcome to Hotel Weinstein. I like your thinking on this one. Mike also weighs in, Bill, it is unbelievable to me that there is even a debate about men and women's sports. It's fraud. Pretending to be something that you are not is fraud. this undeniably mental illness that is being pandered to and not addressed for what it is. All right.

And let's see. We have Alan weighing in Bill. Kamala Harris not saying much lately. Well, has she ever had a whole lot to say? Well, she had lots of words, but did she ever have a whole lot to say, Alan? But I appreciate your take on it. I appreciate your take. And then Keith Greer also weighing in Bill, if they would get back to Sustainable Food,

forestry logging forest. They wouldn't need fire suppression nearly as much. All we end up with is a bunch of burned trees on the ground, which will then burn again. Now, Scott sent me some information about his wildfire protection system in his home. I'll talk more about that on tomorrow's segment, but I don't have time to go through it right now. Email your comments and questions. Bill at Billmyershow.com. That is Bill at Billmyershow.com. Tomorrow, it'll be find your phone Friday. Coming up next, Markley, Van Camp, and Robbins, and that'll be right after Fox News. See you then.