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Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Jason Wall, father of missing teen Ava Wall, 15-years old, updates us on the search for Ava, who was last seen Friday night in Medford. Scott Seufert, Jacksonville resident, shares his efforts to fire harden his properties.

This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. It's every parent's nightmare. One day your child's there and another day they're gone and utter suspicious circumstances and the search is on for 15-year-old Aval Wall. And joining me right now, joining me right now to talk about this is Jason Wall, who is Ava Wall's father.

Jason, it's a pleasure having you on. I wish you were under better circumstances, though, and welcome. Thank you for having me. Hey, for those who may not have heard or have been kind of out of touch with media over the weekend, what happened with your daughter, Ava? It's Friday is when this ended up being reported to police, right? Yeah, it was Friday evening. She left the house.

We had people over and she'd left the house around 820, between 820 and 840. There was a note left behind, and we're kind of afraid for her safety. This isn't like her to do something like this, and we're just trying to get details. Now, the sheriff's department is classifying this as a runaway right now. Do you think it, do you, are you, you, are you, you, you, you, are you, you, you, you, you, you, with the sheriff's on this, or is there something else going on? There's a lot of weird circumstances around it. You know, we believe that she may be with an adult based on what she left in her note.

And that's very concerning to us for a 15-year-old girl to be with. We don't have anybody that would be an adult that she would feel trust in, that we would feel trusted, that she may be falsely feeling that in her own mind. In other words, there's a note that says I'm with a trusted adult, but doesn't name the trusted adult? No, unfortunately, there's no names on it whatsoever. Oh, boy. Okay. And what about cell phone and communication? What was she possibly using? Maybe you can describe how you're trying to find it right now. Well, right now, we have her cell phone in our possession. She doesn't have a cell phone that, the one, anyone that we know about. She may have another cell phone she got from somebody else, but nobody has any information as to a number to a cell phone that we're unaware of or anything.

All of her social media, which we didn't know she had, apparently has been deleted. So she's kind of just disappeared completely. Her friends have been trying to reach out to her from what we're hearing and trying to find out about her own safety. and they're coming up short. And so I just really want those friends to keep trying to find what's going on because she's not the type of person to just fall silent. It's really concerning. Okay, so all the social media has gone, so she knows where she or someone who had access to it,

wiped it out, right? This is what we're looking at right now. Really? That's what we're fearing right now. Yes, we have, she didn't have social media that we knew about, But our friends are saying that she did and that the one that she did have is no longer around. Okay. Where was she last seen?

And what does she look like? I mean, I saw a picture up her in the Road Valley Times. Very nice-looking young lady. Yeah, she's last seen on Coleman Creek Road between 815 and 840. She's about 5'5, 115 pounds, brown hair. blue hazel eyes. She had a brown, puffy jacket, and a very light-colored blue jeans and black shoes. She had a black backpack, we believe. All right. Did, now, according to the picture that I saw, she had braces. Does she still wearing braces? Yeah, she's got braces currently. Okay. Yeah, that might

make it a little more distinctive. And has there been anything coming in? Has the community brought anything to you? I mean, you know, we have an area in which everyone seems to have a ring camera or some kind of security camera. Anybody seeing anything that you're aware of? The community has done great getting this information out and sharing it on social media and we're getting information coming in, you know, of possible sightings that we're looking into and they've just come up short. But we're looking into anything we can get because we know that any little bit of information we could get may bring Ava home. Yeah. Like I said, man, this is this is every parent's, every parent's nightmare. And I feel, I mean, I think we all have this heartfelt prayers for her safe return. And at this point, it's been pretty much dry, nothing yet, right?

Nothing at all. And I fear that she's maybe not in the area. But that's why we've got, we've got information spreading wherever we can. So if you've got family, anywhere, even not in the valley, somewhere close, just spread it out. The more information we can get in, the better chance we can have her back. By chance was an Amber Alert issued, does it rise to that kind of thing, or is there not enough information to go on? Unfortunately, an Amber Alert generally means you have to have a known abduction. Yeah. And it's not necessarily a known abduction, so there's no way to have an Amber Alert.

Jason, you were talking just a few minutes ago. Jason Wall, by the way, is with me. He's Eva Wall's father, the missing teen from Medford. You had mentioned that you didn't realize she had social media. Were you restricting or was there some problems? I was kind of curious. I don't want to get personal, but I wonder if kids will rebel against a lot of things. I remember I was a kid, too.

We all were. at some point. No, she was not a rebellious type. We were trying to have her not have social media to protect her from stuff like this. And that's unfortunately what may have led to this. We just, we didn't want her to have social media because there's just a lot of weird creepers in this world. Any idea on who she may have been with or any description of who she may have been last seen with, Did anybody give any clue on this?

The only tip that we have from that area around that time frame is that there was a car on Coleman Creek Road, a gray sedan with a male and female inside of it. The sedan apparently had its emergency flashers on and then drove away about the time that that person would pass them. Okay. Who do we get in touch with if we had? have an idea or may have seen something or, you know, we scour our security photos and pictures of what happened on maybe on Friday night. And who will we call?

The sheriff's department has a case number, and it's 26-270 is the case number for her. Some of the posters have 270-70-and-and-they're a good point of contact right now. working hard to try and find her and going through the red tape sometimes makes it a little difficult. And then myself on social media or her mom as well at 541-531-0-4-40. All right. Very good. I'm so sorry for you and your family right now and for Ava right now. We don't know what is going on. I think that's even, you know, worst of all, having no idea even where to start. but if enough people in the community are aware of this, maybe someone out there, oh, I saw someone at the truck stop. I mean, we're praying for something like that comes out, and then we get some way to track this down.

And Jason, I'm very sorry for your family. Prayers for a safe return of Ava, and that everybody gets to the bottom of this sooner rather than later in all the best to you. And we wish you the best, okay? You take care. Thank you. Let's just bring Ava home. Yeah. Thanks, Jason. Jason Wall. It is 722 at KMED and 993 KBXG. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Glacier Heating and Air, making sense of the heating and air business.

Need a roof that performs and lasts? Stephen Westfall Roofing. Tax Slayer, file fearlessly. News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show. 27 after 7. I can't imagine what it's like being Jason Wall. and it didn't it just break your heart, hear something like that,

that your daughter's gone and you have no idea where and a so-called trusted adult. And from the sounds of it, they were trying to keep Ava off of social media. It appears she probably found her way onto it one way or the other, and who knows where she was with right now. But definitely, if you do know anything, please just, you know, jump on and get with the Sheriff's Department. They would love to hear from you.

For sure. 770KMED, 770563. We have a little open phone time. I'm going to be talking with Scott Seaford here in a few minutes. Scott has, what I would dare say, has gone beyond the standard homeowner of what is going on trying to get a, not a fire-proof, but at least a fire-resistant home. We've been talking a lot about wildfire response here. And so Scott said, hey, I'll come in and talk about what I'm doing over at my house. and maybe there's an idea or two you can grasp from that.

Anyways, go back to the phones here. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hi, Bill. This is Vicki from the Applegatee. Vicki. How are things this morning, huh?

Oh, good. I slept in. I actually light out here this morning with my coffee. Yeah, well, it is Martin Luther King Jr. Day. A lot of people on holiday, schools, banks, markets. They're closed. No government workers usually have the day off.

We'll see, though. What's up? Well, my comment was, well, first of all, I feel so bad for the parents, for Ava's parents. The dad said that he didn't think that she had social media, but people told her that she did. So the people that told him that she did, I'm wondering if she has like a trusted friend that is aware that she had social media and maybe she talked to her friend about this adult. that she might have ran off with. Yeah, this is a so-called, quote-unquote, trusted adult, right?

Yeah, well, they can be awful trusting until they're not, you know what I mean? And then usually too late, but I'm praying for her, but I'm just wondering if maybe they, maybe they've already tried to go to her friends, but if, you know, a lot of friends will keep the secret, but if they realize how dangerous this really could be for Eva, and maybe one of them would, you know, have some information. As is well known, there are many perverts in this world that are certainly sociopathic or psychopathic to the point where they can pose as trusted as long as need be. I'm hoping this is not what happened with Ava, and let's all pray that there's just a safe

return. You know, I get these kind of news releases all the time, Vicky. You know, every time that there is a young, woman or a young boy, you know, missing. And then, you know, just about every time there is, you know, it's a runaway type situation, and they end up being found. And there, a lot of times they're safe. And let's hope that ends up being the case in this particular one.

But until then, as a parent, what do you do? You're just going crazy over this, crazy with worry. Terrified. And if it's a trusted adult, someone has to know who this person is. If it's a good person, somebody else has to know of this person. Yeah, very good. You know what I mean? Well, I hope she comes home soon.

I couldn't even imagine or just everybody pray, please. Well, the other aspect of this, too, is that everybody as a child has made, or as even a young adult, we've all made our share of bad, of bad mistakes, dumb mistakes. Things are just absolutely, you know, pig ignorant, stupid. And I remember that, you know, even I as a young man would do things that I look at myself now and I wonder, how did I survive my stupidity at that point? And let us hope that Ava survives her challenges here on this one. And they get it back together and get this all figured out. But yeah, and it sounds like the parents, they were trying to keep her off social media.

It's good thing. But, boy, that is such a siren song these days, such an attractant. once they leave the house, it's like back in the day I used to sneak and wear makeup, and then I try and take it all off before I came home. My mother also wore makeup, so she could tell that I had mascara on and probably lipstick. Yeah, she wasn't fooled, was she? No, no, at all. Yeah, but that's pretty thin gruel compared to this kind of stuff, though,

that run away with the so-called trusted adult. That's scary. That's scary stuff. Yeah, that's really scary. All right. I'm glad you made it through your times, okay? Thank you. Take care, Vicki.

732 at KMED. We'll catch up on the rest of the news here in just a moment and talk about an idea or two on hardening your property for wildfire. We'll talk with gentlemen living in the woods. It is in the woods, right? I'm in the city limits, Jack. Okay, in the city limits, but you're living in the woods, right?

Okay, all right. Well, we'll talk with Scott Seaford about that all coming up. You finally... From Clauser Drilling, and I'm on KMED. 737, Monday, January. every 19th. Hope you are doing well, this Martin Luther King, Jr. A lot of people, a lot of people lost everything they had. Some lost their lives. Fortunately, we didn't have a lot of loss in our lives of the Allmead of Fire. There were some, but not nearly what it could have been. I look back,

I still have a section of videos back in the day of when that happened a number of years ago, and I'm looking at this, and I wonder, why didn't more people die? And I thank God that that they didn't, that they didn't. But the fact of the matter is, though, firestorms can happen, wildfires can happen, and will continue to happen. And, you know, you had the Tubbs fire, he had the campfire, you had all sorts of fires, palisade fire, you have a Lahaina fire. I mean, all these things that we have talked about at length over the years. And what can you do to harden property? Well, there are some people that have done the, you know, the basic, sure, you know, clearing things away, have defensible space. And then,

And Scott Seaford of Jacksonville lives in the Jacksonville area, reached out to me a while back. And you've ended up, first off, Scott, go ahead and lean into that, if you don't mind. How are you doing? Welcome to the show. I'm doing fine. Thank you for inviting me. Okay. And tell us a little bit about your experience because apparently you and your wife, you decided that we're going to kind of go beyond the standard way of hardening the property. And you've ended up bringing all sorts of various systems in. Would that be a fair? reason why you're here this morning? Yeah, first of all, this was my idea.

My wife kind of tolerates my craziness in my old age. Okay. What got me going on this was I started looking into these fires, and a lot of people just feel helpless. And I contacted a company called Frontline Wildfire, and they will put sprinkler systems on your home, roof under the eaves and they even have a Class A foam system that Class A foam makes the water more viscous and soluble.

So I contacted them and, you know, I thought I'd hear back from them. Well, they were so busy with the Palisades and Paradise, California and all the fires that had been happening that they didn't get back to me. And I waited about six months. I didn't hear back from them. So I said, you know, I'm going to have to do this myself. So basically I did some research and basically came up with my own system. Now, one of the things I'll tell you about the frontline wildfire system, they make a great system.

The problem is it's except for the very wealthy. It's kind of, you know, you can't do it. If I'd have used them to do my four buildings, I would have been over $80,000. If you don't mind describing what kind of property do you have? within the city limits of Jacksonville, but you must be within the wooey. Would that be the wooby? Yeah. Good way to describe it, wildland urban interface kind of area. Yes, my property is considered high risk. I got the letter. Sure. And I live, my property line is the city limits of Jacksonville. I'm up in the Westmont subdivision. Now, where that is is you head out Highway 238,

you pass Paradise Ranch Road, and then the next one is Reservoir Road, Marianne. You go up that road, and there's homes up there. And, you know, I'm on city water, and that presents another problem for doing this, because if you think you can hook into your city water system and put a fire protection on your home, you're not going to get it done. Really? Yeah, because you need high pressure, and you need a lot of volume of water. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's like how Mr. X and I've had that conversation about hydrant pressure during the, during the Alameda fire. Just the basic pipe going through over to, let's say, Phoenix Talent, as an example, could only handle, I think, when everything was working great, maybe three or four hydrants, right? Three or four hydrants. And then if all it takes is a few houses burning down and the pressure goes down and then there's no water, right? Same sort of thing with the Jacksonville water.

I would imagine, right? Right. So a number of years ago, I put in a rainwater catchment system. I got a greenhouse on my property, and I thought it'd be nice to have another source of water. And I put solar on my roof a number of years ago, and so I've got an electrical source, even if the grid goes down. So that's something to think about. Yeah, by the way, if things go to hell, we're all going to Scott's house, okay? All right, just so you know.

Well, I'll do my best to help who I can. Yeah. But anyway, so I knew I had the power. I knew I had the water supply. And if you got a swimming pool, that is a great water source for being able to do this. But did my homework, and I put in a pretty high-end system, but I didn't even get close to $80,000 for my four structures. And I did it with copper pipe. Now, copper's gone up quite a bit since I've done this, but...

Could you use PVC, buried PVC, or would the metal be a problem in the fire? So PVC you wouldn't use because it's got to be on the exterior of the house. Oh, okay. And so, you know, you could use galvanized, I guess. You know, that's one way to go and you just have to check prices. But I did three-quarter inch copper because I wanted to have a lot of... volume. And I have some specialized pumps. I have two rainwater catchment tanks and two pumps. How many gallons of water have you, do you capture with the rain?

1,500 gallons per tank. It's almost like a good couple of fire trucks, right? Yeah, it'll go a long way. So the big user are the rainbirds that I have on my roof ridge line and I have rainbirds on the corner of my home and I have it shoot out not only just over the roof but around the home itself, you know, because that's part of the key. But the best part of the whole system is I put what they're what they're calling misters, what I bought as misters and I put them in my under the eaves in my vents because what burns a house does, down are the embers that fly and they get sucked into the vents and then they catch fire in your attic. So if you can keep water blocking with misters, and misters don't use a lot of water,

you know, maybe half a gallon a minute per mister. How many misters overall do you have? And I'm just trying to envision how you construct, because you had what, the house and you have three outbuildings, right? Yes. All right. What's square footage? of all these buildings. I'm curious. Well, I have the main home's about 2,500 square feet. I have a detached garage with a second floor finish space, and it's about 600 square feet.

I have a shed that's 12 by 16, and I have a what we call it a gazebo, but it's where we have our spa, and it's a 12 by 12. And all those buildings have got sprinklers on them. Now, this system, so you kind of designed it just from going on the web and finding appropriate parts, right? Because you couldn't afford to do the commercially supplied one, right? Well, I could have afforded to do it. The problem I had was they weren't up to doing it. I was ready to go, and they weren't up to doing it. So I said, you know, I don't want to wait any longer, so I just kind of started fabricating my own system.

Okay. And I think I got a better system because something I did that they don't do, I put a Class A foam, a high-pressure tank system on my property. And it's a commercial, it's a commercial Class A foam generator that fire departments use. I bought it on eBay. Oh, okay. I got a good deal on it. Now, so you have pretty good property there, and you did this on your own, though, cobbled this together. How much did you invest overall would you say if you were to?

Because, you know, they wanted, the commercial one was like $80,000 is what they wanted to do this. Because one of the challenges that, you know, for most homeowners, an $80,000 kind of investment like that doesn't necessarily pencil for a whole lot of people, even though it would be nice to have. Don't get you wrong. I'm just wondering how this scales if what you, what you ended up doing yourself is. scalable to other people's properties. Absolutely. So I spent about $45,000, but, you know, I bought a, on eBay, I spent $11,000 for that Class A foam generator.

So that's part of the, part of the cost. Is there any kind of permitting that you need to have to put that kind of stuff up that you're aware of, you know? I'm just curious. Maybe that's a dumb question. I don't know. You know, I just went ahead and did it because why would anybody argue with putting fire protection on your home? And it doesn't, it's, cosmetically, it doesn't look bad at all.

All you really see is under the eaves, you see the copper piping and on one wall where it goes up to the eaves. and then, you know, buried pipe in the ground. So, you know, it works that way too. Well, the reason I was asking, Scott, about this is that as long as you're not hooked to the city water and you're using water that you've already have stored for firefighting purposes, I don't think you run afoul of anything. But what I was wondering about is if there may be some, you know, some environmental rule or something about the firefighting foam,

what you may use or what you're allowed to or what you're not to. I don't know what the certifications are for that kind of stuff. Well, you know, I didn't ask permission. I'm inside city limits of Jacksonville, and they're very restrictive. Even though I'm not in the historic part of the town, they use the same rules for everybody. But I didn't ask permission to put my rainwater system in. You know, it's not bothering anybody. And from the street, you don't even know I have it.

So they can't even see it. in the back part of my home. All right, Scott Seaford with me and talking about his reaction to what happened with the various wildfires, both here and elsewhere. How long could you, okay, so you got a couple of 1,500 gallon tanks that you have this rainwater stored in. How long could you run the sprinklers on your property in the instance, or if we ended up having a wildfire happening up in your neighborhood surrounding it? How long would it go?

Oh, I think you could run this three or four. hours because you're going to be alternating and keep in mind my rainwater catchment is going to recycle some of that water because it comes back down on the roof and into the guttering and back into the tank. So not all of its waste. What won't be come back will be what is sprinkled around the property to keep everything wet. Do you have to filter the water going into your tanks? There is a filter in the, you know, built into the system. Yeah, just to keep. dirt and branches, things like that, you know, from getting into it. But what I'm really curious about is if it has affected your insurance rate, because I know that

the state legislature is supposedly going to be getting together at some point and trying to force a, well, force insurance companies to react to this or acknowledge that some people have done a better job at protecting their property than others rather than just looking at where you are on the map. And I'm wondering if that has happened with you. Well, I have State Farm had it for years and years and years since we live there. We moved there May 9, 1994, so I've been there a long time. And I went down to my insurance agency and inquired.

And unfortunately, State Farm will give a discount for an interior sprinkler system. An interior. But nothing exterior. See, that's interesting. To your point, that's kind of what I was getting at then with what the state legislature was looking to say, hey, there are things you can do outside that could also affect your rating, and they should be taken into account. I wonder that maybe that'll affect you at some point. We'll say what they do. Yeah, so they're having to play catch up. You know, they left the state of California after all the state farm did after all the fires. And but then I, when I talked to my agent said, didn't leave all the state, but left the areas that they figured were high risk. Okay. All right.

Talking with Scott Seaford of Jacksonville, and he's, you know, put together quite an interesting system. And he sent me some pictures in the past of what he has done there. I don't know if you have a question for Scott or maybe talk about some of the things you've done with your own property. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this. Welcome. Hey, good morning.

Bill is Cliff. Hey, Cliff. How are you doing today, huh? Morning. I'm doing real good. I got a question for your guest there. How do you keep your rain catchment water from going stale and having algae or whatever forming there? And then that could – I know you mentioned filters, but how do you keep that from forming, which would end up plugging your misters and sprinkler system?

there hasn't been an issue with that uh i look at my tank and uh you know when you look at it it's a it's a little bit green and the water inside floating around but uh it the filter laying on top of the the water comes from the the the top of the tank not the bottom so there could be some algae and in is it like a floating kind of oh so it's a floating Inlet, right? It goes down with the... It's got a filter in it. Okay, and a filter in it. So have you, do you test it on a regular basis? I'm kind of curious how that works. I haven't. I've probably had it in four or five years. I just haven't had an

issue with it. And the water just keeps coming out. It's not an issue. And the water comes out from the bottom, you know, the bottom of the tanks where it comes out. So there's no algae down there in the water. So you don't treat it. You don't treat the rainwater in any way. at all. Okay, do you ever use it for crops or anything else? Well, I have a greenhouse, and I've used it for some of that, but mainly what I'm interested in and keeping it is for the rainwater storage. And, you know, we're having not a good snowpack this year, so it looks like it might be, if we don't get some snow here quick, we might have a very violent fire season. It's a possibility. Hopefully that, but of course, you know, all it could take is one or two just huge storms,

and we could be like right back where we need to be, but one never knows. Hey, Cliff, I appreciate the call, and thanks for that, talking with Scott Sefer this morning, and Hardening Properties Against Wildfire. Hi, good morning, caller. Who's this? Welcome. Yeah, this is Mike. I was wondering how his system was press-wide, how he runs the sprinkler.

Yeah, because he doesn't have it connected to city water, so it's all separate. What kind of pumps did you use? So what I did is I went online and there's a company online. I told them what I wanted to do, how many gallons I needed to do. And I run four rainbirds at a time. What's a rainbird? I know rainbird's a brand of sprinkler, but what are you talking? What are you speaking of specifically?

I don't know what you call them, the oscillating sprinklers that have the impact heads on them that spin around. I call them rain bird rainjet. You know, there's a lot of different companies make them. But I needed four gallons a minute times four, so I needed 16 gallons a minute. So I gave that to the pump people, and they gave me the – I bought two of them because I have two rainwater catchment systems, and they work very, very well. What type of pump did you ask for, though? Oh, gosh. It's a, I don't know, I've got all the details on that.

I can, you know, work with somebody on that. But the critical thing is you don't want to try to put too many sprinklers on at the same time. So you basically, you know, get an orbit sprinkler timer or something that, you know, can go between stations. So you're not running the whole thing at once. You're just using different stations like the E, The under-eves ministers will be all-on-one, four rainbirds at a time, and I've got maybe six stations of rainbirds. So, and they rotate. In a fire-type situation, do they operate automatically, or do you just turn them on as needed?

Well, you can set it up. So I have the app on my phone, and basically I can run this anywhere. You just run them on your Wi-Fi system at home then, right? Right. Okay. Yeah, was there some... Caller, did you want to say, ask another question in there? Does that help you at all?

You know, I was wanting to know what, you know, how he runs the pump. I mean, you got to build pressure somehow. Electric pump, gas-powered pump. You know, how does he build pressure to run the sprinklers? Okay, so the pump is an electric pump. I said I had solar on my home and I got a battery backup system. So even if the power goes down, I'm going to be able to run my system. You know what kind of horsepower you're dealing with those pumps?

You know, this is one thing I didn't come prepared to talk to me. I've got the information, but I have to look it up. Hey, I'll tell you what. I think it's a third horsepower or so I'm not sure. Okay. All right. I'll tell you what, you know, maybe would you want to, maybe you want to, maybe you can give out your email address at the end of this, and I'll put it up and post it. Maybe people

could just write you and ask you, and then you could just let them know from home. And maybe some other people looking to find a less expensive way or a more reasonable way to protect the rural property. But anyway, let me grab another call talking with Scott Sefer this morning about wildfire resiliency. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Hello. This is Bob. Hey Bob. Welcome. What you thinking? When we lived in Colorado, we found out that it was illegal to catch and store rainwater. And I just looked up on about Oregon and apparently a permit is required to do that. Has he gone through that process? No, I did not. And the guy that put my rainwater catchment system, I ask him about that. He's from Ashland. And that's what he does. And he said,

you don't need it out here. So I just listened to him and moved ahead. Yeah. Do you think you should need a permit to? capture nature's rainwater here, Bob? What do you think? No, and we didn't, we were so surprised in Colorado because, you know, it was a good source of water. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know that the water, of course, the state considers itself the owner of everything which falls here, I suppose, in the area. But maybe it's the difference of if you're going to form a catch basin, like where you have a pond or something. Maybe you need a permit for that, but maybe not just for having a You know, a couple of tanks on your property that you run some water.

It's fairly different in each state. Yeah. Okay. All right. Hey, appreciate the call. Well, tell you what, so you spent about $30,000,000, which you ended up spending. Right. Yeah, for yours.

Remember, I have that Class A foam generator that I spent $11,000 on as part of that. So if you didn't do the Class A foam, you could do it for a considerable S. And I also did four buildings. Yeah. Yeah. If you wanted to just take care of maybe your main home would say, and you're out in a high wildfire area, maybe you could do something for 15 or 20, even today maybe? I don't know. Oh, maybe even a lot less than that.

If you put on your home the ridgeline rainbirds on the corners, on the down roof corners of your home, and you did a under-eve-mistress system, you probably easily maybe $10,000 or $15,000. I'm not sure. You know, I wanted my system to be the best, and I wanted to have the Class A foam. The Class A foam adds quite a bit the cost to it. And what I'm kind of curious about, though, is that you said you haven't tested it, though, right?

Do you ever test it or turn it on just to see what works? Absolutely. Oh, good. I've tested it and fine-tuned it. And the one thing you want to do on the winter, too, I put some unions on so I could drain it. you know, copper unions, you can open them up and basically you run the program, but you don't hook up the water when you run the program and it drains the system because it opens the valves.

All right. I'll take one more call there. And hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? This is Minor Dave. Yeah, Dave. And I wanted to say that this guy did the right thing, whether he needs a permit or not,

it's better sometimes just to do it and beg for forgiveness. I would agree with you in that matter here. Thanks for the call, Dave. All right. Scott, you have an email address? Maybe we could hang out to people. Maybe I can give to you, or should I just use the email that I contacted you through? And I'll... That is my email. It's my name, Scott J. Sefert at c.s.com. I'm an old compi-serve account from way back. Oh, my gosh. You know, I know someone who has a, so has an aOL.org. You know, so-and-so at aOL.com. You want to talk about some old email addresses. But I'll put that up there, and if people wanted to just write you and ask a question or two, you can just share some of your experiences. Yeah, and I'll give out my phone number, too. I prefer you text me, then I can, you know,

send information by text, but my phone number is 541-840-9070. All right, very good. Hey, Scott, good seeing you. And thanks for sharing. You know, people kind of doing it on their own, freelancing it, I guess. You're not doing this commercially just for your own. But, of course, a little bit of a trial and error here. You're working your best. Well, let me say this. I have a friend that he became a friend from church, and he's a general contractor. And he wants to install these. So I told him, I got on the program, we would be. be willing to help people and to do this kind of thing, look at their property and make a suggestion, come up with something that would work for them. So, you know, I want to share my knowledge with anybody who wants to do this. I'm not in it to make money. I just want to help people. Well, you found out what worked in. You also found out what didn't through making some mistakes. Everybody does through the trial and error sort of thing. And the best to you. And so you think you

could run it for how many, three or four hours you think you could do that, right? Well, I'm not sure because, like I said, the water recycles that a lot of it that goes. So, you know, you only need to run it. The big critical thing is the misters. And if I just turned on the misters, you know, if there was fires in the air and embers were flying, that could run for probably 24 hours or more. So, you know, it's the rainbirds that take all the... That would be for a closer fire that's, you know, imminently endangering you. You would probably pull that out.

But the misters would... The misters are underneath the eaves, right, keeping those eve areas. In front of all the vents. Yeah, all those vents. You need a mister in front of every vent because that's where the embers come in. That's what usually burns a house down. All right, very good. Hey, really appreciate you coming in here this morning, Scott.

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