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Episode Date: January 19, 2026

Dr. Dennis Powers with Where Past Meets Present, Jim Wright profile from LTM to Knife River and beyond. Also a dig in to the Trump latest lawfare and more. Open phones follow.

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It's a real pleasure. And as a matter of fact, there's lots to go into. Interesting enough, in terms of Jim Wright, he was awarded an award that you were awarded. That's right. The Chairman's Award. That's right. The Chairman's Award. In fact, that is the profile for today where Pass meets present, Jim Wright, Knife River, and Southern Oregon.

And let you tell us a little bit about Jim, for those that don't know. Well, this is, you know, this is really interesting, Bill, because I actually was on a few boards with, I believe it would have been. his sister, but in any event, M.C. Lininger was an entrepreneur, came to Ashland, you know, back in the 1910s, but he decided that selling plaster sand would work, and then family members after high school would head out to screen and deliver. Jim Wright worked summers there for this from the time he was 12 and even after graduating from Ash in high school. And by the way, Lininger, isn't that, so is that where the concrete trucks came from? I remember seeing trucks around here with Leniger on them, didn't they?

Absolutely. And what was interesting is that in the early 1980s, Jim Wright became president of the company. As you're pointing out, it expanded its operations. But he had a very progressive eye disease, retinous, stigmatist. Pigmintosa, where he completely lost his vision. This is an incredible story, where he even had a driver, but who did other company work when not driving Jim, who still had enough eyesight to do most aspects of the job. But then the operations came in the form a company called LTM, which was Leininger-True Mix, was what you're referring to. And then Knife River acquired L-T-M with Jim Wright being involved in all stages in that company. 36 years ago, too, I can't believe it was only that long ago or that it was that long ago. It's amazing.

I know. I know, and only a year or two afterwards is when I joined SOU, so I really, or then it was called SACC. But along the way, he was also working with the Asante Foundation, with the Radar Athletic, Association, the Medford Rotary Club. He was with the Advocates Office, which helped abused and neglected kids. And so, Bill, in late 2022, just four years ago, the Jackson County Board of Commissioners honored him with its chairman's award, included that, although blind, he served the community for 50 years and enumerated this. service, pretty, pretty lofty, you know, compliments to one that really was, was working and

helping the community. As far as you know, is Jim doing okay these days? Yes, he's 85. And, you know, the most recent pictures I've seen, although I haven't talked to him personally, although I did some years ago, that his health is good and very family men, family values. community values, and one that really walks tall with those that are not as tall. All right. Dr. Dennis Powers, where Passmeet's present, Jim Wright, the profile for it today, and we'll certainly post that, Doc.

There's a lot going on in the legal world. You want to get out your legal shotgun, start to shooting at the birds? We'll do that. And we have our retriever as well, so you just go ahead and point to the ducks. All right. You're right back with you. here, Doc, hang on, okay? Where past meets present, we go to the present next, and there's no shortage of that for sure.

This is the Bill Meyer show. When Italian food sounds good, and when doesn't it? The Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. 22 minutes after 8. Hey, Doc, do you hear those crowds over in the Minneapolis church yesterday going after the ice agent? Do you hear that? Isn't that something? Yeah, here.

I was going to play a little bit of that just if people had not heard. It's difficult to follow here after a while because, well, they were screechy progressives, I guess. But here, let me see. So they're going in there yelling Renee Good and apparently protesters at the church, there is an ICE official who actually serves as a pastor there. And so they're going after them there and screaming at the kids, screaming at the moms as they're running out of their terrified, there has to be a civil rights violation or two in there, maybe a dozen or more. thoughts on that here? I mean, you're the, our legal analysis du jour at the moment here, Doc. What do you say, sir? Thanks, Bill. And you know, it's absolutely disrespectful. There's a number of

civil rights violations going on, but ironically enough, my friend, there is a specific act that's called the Face Act, which was underneath Bill Clinton's term in 1994, that really was to go ahead called Freedom of Access to Clinic Entresses. But it was one to allow demonstrators to go to a certain place, but they cannot go into a clinic or a church that provides, quote, reproductive health services or to exercise the First Amendment right of religious freedom. So this will be applied against them, and it's just despicable. the apparently the big deal is the fact that in this quote-unquote demonstration,

a.k.a. riot, that the people leading it were members of the Black Lives Matters movement that goes back to George Floyd. And Minnesota, however, is tarred with the feathers of over a half billion dollars, $500 million of damage in those riots having to do with George Floyd, and now what they're doing is they're trying to continue the same thing, especially with the billions of fraud and the representatives that are in Minnesota. Dennis, I can't say that it's a direct connection, but I can't help but think that there is a whip up of the so-called peaceful yet fiery protests going on right now. I can't help but think of that as a bit of a beard to cover up some of this focus on the fraud. Do you agree on that? There has to be some push for that. Absolutely, because the fact that they are, they being the state officials in Minnesota, Minneapolis leaders,

are showing as if they're on the griddle of this fraud, and they will be arrested. And this is what is going in there because, you know, this system bill of bribery where you have nonprofits that are not in business except to circulate monies that come from the federal government through the Biden administration and Obama that then is going ahead and kick back as bribes to politicians, especially in Minnesota. It is bribe for bribe, and it's disgusting, and that's the far-left anti-Americans went after Musk so abruptly and targeted his dealerships because he was the first one to expose these multiple bribes going on. One of the touching on the Insurrection Act, okay, and I know that 1,500 troops, or at least we've learned, I should say, if 1,500 troops are on standby, and the president is weighing invoking the Insurrection Act, what would you think is driving the president not to invoke that so far? Because it strikes me that there is plenty enough here that areas such as Minneapolis are in soft and or not hardening open rebellion.

because there's one thing to say that, okay, we're not going to help you find illegal immigrants. Our law enforcement won't help you. We won't do anything, you know, just like what Oregon does. But it's quite another to try to make sure that you, as a federal agent, cannot do your enforcing a federal law, isn't it? Yeah, and you see, what's happening is that the empowerment of the National Guard is one that has, a split in federal appellate courts, and they're waiting for a decision from the Supreme Court on that. Well, the reason I was asking about the Insurrection Act, because if I read it correctly, it doesn't necessarily need the National Guard, does it?

I thought that you could actually use conventional troops to actually do the enforcing, if need be. Isn't that true? Now, that's the fallback for political reasons. Oh. That if you can't use that, you'll come in with actual soldiers on the Insurrection Act. But what's happening there is that that's why you get these crazy images of demonstrators in clownsuits. They are clowns. And showing that it is the summer of love like we had.

Yeah. But why do you think the president has been holding off? though, Dennis. That's the question, I guess. Why is he holding back? Because I would have thought that, you know, as soon as everyone's, you know, getting in there and throwing stuff at ICE agents and everybody else, that they would have just rolled them in there because it's obvious that Minneapolis and, you know, local police and local sheriffs are not protecting federal law enforcement. They're not doing anything about the crimes being committed, at least that I'm aware of. Because it's an evidentiary type of situation that's going to come down as to whether or not there really is the factors that equal an insurrection. For example, the anti-ice mob that totally disrupted the church service. And as they continue to get the evidence, and they're investigating right now in terms of the governor and in terms of the mayor of Minneapolis, and by the Justice Department. And so this is going to be an evidentiary type of thing

where Minnesota is drawing a hard line in the sand because their backs are so exposed with fraud, with a Somali fraud, that this is really an act of desperation to keep bringing in these types of things to try to go ahead and also not only have evidence in a court back, battle, but also to go ahead and to convince the people like they did with George Floyd

by totally screwing up the facts and intentionally driving that in as a wedge between the people. That's what they're doing. All right. What is the level, what is the legal standard, I guess, in the Insurrection Act? What level, if any, do you have to reach? Or is it just the president invokes the... the uh... insurrection act

at his or her we have you know if we had a uh... uh... female president someday you know either way what's the legal standard this this might sound facetious but it depends when hearings the case which judge because it's the same uh... hold on wait a minute you have to run it by a judge before the president can invoke it

no it's a judge that makes the decision and if you'll come in at the district court level, you can't go directly to the Supreme Court. And with the judges that have been coming in, who were appointed by Obama and Biden, they will rule against, you know, ISIS position and the Justice Department position. Then you're going to go to the Court of Appeals. Well, well, I was talking about the president. I'm talking about the president. The Insurrection Act is something which the president would enact, not ICE or not, you know, those local officials. We'll see what I'm getting at there.

I totally agree, Bill. Oh, okay. I'm coming in in terms of on the assumption that our president, when he feels there's enough facts there, will go ahead and the Justice Department will come in, and he will declare the Insurrection Act. Okay. And then it's going to go through, depending on who hears the case, because what's going to happen then is going to be in the courts, And that is actually, you know, where these anti-Americans want it.

This is a long-term type of thing to go ahead and to separate and split the voters. So in other words, he is still subject to court review at the federal district level, even if he... Even, Bill, my friend, even if he isn't, that's what we're finding out. even where a district court, this is what's so abhorrent by what's going on legally, is the fact that even judges that don't have the jurisdiction are saying they do because they don't want the anti-American communist mobs showing at their doorsteps. It's all very practical. If I was practicing law, I would have to be very careful about what I've said.

But what I've seen in what I've been able to keep up with, I don't have to be silent in terms of the fact that judges, judges really follow their patrons. So you would have to be more out of control before the president is likely going to invoke the Insurrection Act because it's another legal tar baby, so to speak, that kind of thing. You get stuck in it, like the old tale. But my friend, in the interpretation of control, out of control, that's factual. And that's what's going to be argued at the district court level when he declares that emergency.

And he knows that in terms of what they're doing, that this is going to be the worst of the case, he will probably hold off because, my friend, it's also another thing. Republicans are now becoming squishy. They're worried about the upcoming election. I think they're worried for good reason, though, Doc. I really do. I don't like saying that, you know? Yeah, but let me give you my thought as to why.

It's a rant. there are all these things in there where you have people who are Republicans with a two-vote majority who are very squishy for their re-election. And this is one to where the politics, unfortunately, on all this is going on, especially given the fact of, well, we have another shutdown. Yeah, I was watching a video by Bill O'Reilly, remember him, the former Fox News channel, a pundit there. I used to be interviewed by him on a few of the books. Oh, yeah, no kidding.

I was like him. I could tell a story about that, what's really funny, because on one of the books, he said, well, I don't know if I can recommend the book, and he said that on the air. And I said, well, that's okay, Bill, because I'm going to be marketing it to others. And then I did not know this, but I was in Dallas at the time, and I was doing a satellite with him in New York. and I didn't know he was still on the line, and I said to the producer, please tell Bill, I always appreciate his reasoning. And then the next thing I know is that O'Reilly said,

I heard that, thank you, Dennis, and he went over to the publishers of the next morning and said, powers can be on me any time. Great story. Well, thanks for sharing. Well, the reason I brought up Bill O'Reilly is that he brought up something about the immigration response over the weekend, which I thought was actually well-reasoned. And I don't know if you watched it, but it has him saying that there is a real battle within the Trump administration right now, a battle between the Tom Homan side over in the Homeland Security and the battle on the Christie Gnome side. And what Tom is wanting to focus on has to do with, okay, we need to focus deportations only on the worst of the criminals and the ones that have open deportations.

Deportation orders, people who have open deportation orders, while Christy Noem is more on the side of, we're just going to take everybody, throw everybody in the same funnel and get them out there. And I guess at this point we're trying to figure out which side will win. And given that it's now midterm election year, I'm thinking that the Tom Homan side may be listened to a little bit more. What about you? Well, I will take a very slightly different corollary on that. I agree because the politics is what's running all of this right now with the election. Yeah, you can't ignore the politics because if there's a bad outcome on the midterms,

Trump's agenda is dead in the water right away. Well, I think, first of all, part of the politics that's coming in has to do with the arguments that the Justice Department will use, which is going to be, it's not only the evidence of insurrection. It's also the fact that they have over 1,100 people who have been convictive crime that are sitting in Minnesota, and these people will not, the governor, will not release them to ICE, which is a direct violation of the law. But you see, there's an example, though, in which Tom Homan would be saying, yeah, take all of those 1,100, get them out of there, right? Yeah, but I think what's happening is that it's

going to be more gradients coming in as what they use legally as to going ahead and enforcing these. But you're absolutely right about these are the discussions that are taking place, including on Iran, because we have squishy Republicans, and that's exactly what's going on. Republicans have always had a trouble. We're seeing it in Josephine County. Republicans has always had a problem in terms of running with any type of a majority in a legislature, because of the fact that for some reason the philosopher of the anti-Americans is right down with all of them in locks and do and do remember though that republican does not mean conservative and boy if you can figure that out without too much time without too much thinking that's oregon that is an oregon

republican you might run into a conservative but it's not a uh a dead bang possibility yeah and you're so close to it i couldn't uh on that distinction you're absolutely right because you're very to those things, and you see it in terms of the interviews, and I also have seen it in a kind of a different pattern, but I can certainly rely on you in terms of these things. You're absolutely right. All right. Now, tell me if you're right on this, if I'm right on this one. I think Greenland is a nonsense issue. I really do. I think that's a nonsense issue. We've got an old agreement there. We can do anything that we want militarily there.

And I don't know what's going on. I think President Trump's a little bit. He's going over his skis a bit on this. What do you think? Well, you know, he always does that bill in terms of the way and the art of negotiation. And in the art of negotiation very quickly is the fact that most people would come in close to the range to where they want to settle. He goes ahead with Armageddon, and then over time, he then comes in to cut the deal. What I'm looking forward to hearing from is anyone who has the the clairvoyance to be able to modify these extreme positions, NATO with Trump, and then also to be able to modify it for a deal, which is ultimately, I think, what Trump wants. Now, wouldn't Congress have to approve this, anything he's doing?

Yeah, yeah. Congress, of course, unless what it is, as he works, is then the existing treaty, to where he really will get a couple of things in there, such as more bases and the ability as a separate deal to excavate minerals and does it piecemeal rather than going ahead and doing, as you're pointing out, the entire purchase. I don't think that would happen, but of course, this is just one person's view. Yeah, we're definitely in uncharted territory at the moment. Now, final question I have for you, I think the Supreme Court smacks him hard on tariffs. I'm not saying that I want them to. I'm just saying I just think that looking at the Constitution and the raising of revenue that they're probably going to smack them. What do you think? Agreed. The problem is that in the AEPA, this International Emergency Economic Powers Act, is that it never uses the word tariff. It just says the president has the power to regulate. What does that mean? Does that mean the tax? Probably not. It regulate importation. So what about the... exports. Yeah, so you could probably suspend trade with the nation if you wanted to do that, right?

Right. But you know, my friend, what really comes in is going to be, what about these hundreds upon hundreds of businesses that have sued saying that this is illegal? We want these monies held back from us. Yeah, one of those, Costco, by the way, they want, it's tens of millions of dollars, maybe even more in tariffs, which Costco customers have paid. So it depends on whether the Supreme Court, in terms of the negotiation that's going on between the Supreme Court members, says, okay, this will be prospective, and whatever has been happening before, we're not going to address. Yeah, I could see that happen. I could see them doing it because it would be incredibly disruptive to say, hey, you've got to pay them back, but they would say moving forward, forget about it, right? That kind of thing.

And, you know, Bill, what would we do without Trump? I mean, for the news every day, there's something. I'll are Omar right now, you know, send her back to Somaliland or go ahead and arrest her. And she definitely has a position there of one of where she has had kickbacks, and they're going to find those. Oh, boy. Well, there's no lack of dirt coming from that area, that's for sure. Doctor, I appreciate the call, as always. Good talk, and we'll kick it around again next Monday if that's okay with you.

All right? Thank you. I always look forward to it because I always learn something and you take care. All right, you too. Dr. Dennis Power is retired professor of business law. It is 842 in KMED, 993 KBXG. The new year means new resolutions, not just for your body, but for your finances as well. Did you know that financial health is directly related to your identity? London, KMED.

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Again, fortune reserve.com. Your open phones next year at 770-633-770 KMED. When making a big purchase or investment, The Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Happy, take your call, 7705-633. I'll pose the question that I posed on Facebook yesterday. Do you think that the taking over of Greenland or the buying of Greenland or the just grabbing of Greenland, is that an existential threat for the United States of America?

Is not having Greenland an existential threat? Yes or no? You think we have to have it. I'd love to get your opinion on that. 7705-633. I'm looking at this is kind of yet another overreach. I think that we are looking at an executive. I like a lot of President Trump's muscularity.

He's certainly not a sit-down and take a kind of executive, but I think he's getting over his skis. That's my opinion. But I'm happy to take your call on that and anything else on your mind. 7-70-K-M-E-D. Let me grab this call. Hi, good morning. You're on.

This is Bill. Who's this? Hey, Bill, it's wild salmon. Steve, take it away. It's on your mind. Well, I was thinking about the conversation that you had with Wild Bill about the horses and cleaning up the forest. And I have a question for him, if he's listening, do horses eat pine needles and or limbs and trunks of trees? Because that's the real issue with not working in the forest.

the trees, different types of tree grows in different situations, but Douglas fir and Lodipal pine are both fire-dependent species. So normally, you know, without human intervention, they grow up and the force gets too old and it becomes susceptible to fire and it burns down and it recedes itself. I think most of what the wildfire or the wild horses would eat, though, he does describe them as being, you know, eating the grass, chewing down the grass, a lot of that. Absolutely, but that's not all the problem. And if a fire starts, most often the fire start from lightning. And I don't know why, but it seems like lightning hits snags. Have you ever noticed that? They hit what now? They talk about. They hit what?

Lightning hits snags. It hits dead trees. Yes. Okay. So, you know, if you have a building, you know, if you have a building, up of wood on the forest floor. Certainly grass burning might set that on fire, what most of our larger fires seem to be lightning caused. Yeah. The one thing I will say to your point about Bill, though, is that when you look at the, I don't know if that's necessarily the case here in Oregon, when you're not talking about a forest fire per se, most of what's been afflicting, afflicting, rather, California has essentially been large conflagration grassfires and burning

into some forestry, too, into forest, rather. Oh, sir. I understand, and, you know, that's a point, and certainly that's one. However, specifically the monument, the Siscuit National Monument, has not, you know, that was mostly logged by Warehouser back in the 30s and 40s. So it's actually clear cuts that have grown up unmanaged, and the process of trees growing up and dying has been taking place. I challenge you to go up there and walk out into the monument, and you will find that there's two or three feet of dead wood laying about. You think a little bit of a collaborative burning there is going to fix that?

and some wind. You know, if you get the wind element going, Bill says that the grass is the hottest burning. I think that if you get fuel that's fairly deep in the forest and the wind comes up, you'll find that just like a forge, you can increase the temperature dramatically. And, you know, that's what I'm mostly concerned about, Ashton. It's, as you know, I grew up in the wood products industry. And so I've seen all kinds of stuff.

It seems like the word clear-cut is kind of like Trump derangement syndrome, because if you say clear-cut, people just go nuts. However, that is the best way to control the build-up of fuel in the forest and also build houses, because, you know, that's what happens when you commercially log the forest and run up through a song bill. You get lumber, and then lumber goes to, you know, houses. Yeah, well, you're challenging the religious fervor, though, of the other side on that. You understand.

And they're the ones. And frankly, as long as they control, as long as that ideology tends to control who are senators on, I'm told by those in the knowledge in the know about the timber world that nothing changes with timber unless you get senators that are in favor of a better, more reasoned approach to such matters. That's what I'm told. That's absolutely true. And in order to rejuvenate the wood products industry and or logging, it requires huge amounts of money. You know, and you need a thousand sawmills in the northwest, and they cost probably $100 million a piece in order to process the wood that the forest grows here. Yeah, it would be difficult to make that pencil right now. It would be quite difficult.

All right. Steve, I appreciate you sharing that your thoughts on Captain Bill's talk from last week. Okay, always good. 7705-633. Dave, I think you've been hanging on a little bit here. I'll give you another bite. Go ahead. See it.

Yeah, I wanted to say is, you know, tariffs are leverage for international means. And I believe it will be a 63 decision in favor of the terrorists not to take the leverage away. You really? You really think that he's going to win at the Supreme Court. I do not think. I think he's going to lose and lose big on that. But I could be wrong and I'd be fine if I lost on that one. I'm just looking at the law, the Constitution is about that, you know, Congress is supposed to be, Congress, not the president, is there to raise anything involving revenue?

That's what I was going at. They turn it over to the administration to manage on tariffs under the Emergency Act. Well, it's one thing to turn over, you know, administration of tariffs that Congress has passed, but I don't think that means I don't like what you said about my Greenland deal, so I'm throwing a 10% tariff on you. I don't think that's what that means. Yeah. Well, we'll see what happens, but I believe that when I've meditated on it, it'll be a 63 decision.

All right. We'll see if you're right on that, Dave. Appreciate the call. 7705-633. We're taking open phones this morning on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, 854. Hello. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Hey, good morning, Bill. Morning.

Michael. Hello, Michael. What are you thinking today, huh? Yeah, I was just going to first couple things. You were saying that Trump was over his skis. I think he took the jump and the ski stayed on the ground. You want to know the truth. Oh, he took a jump in the ski. And the skis remained on the ground?

Really? Yeah, I lost to ski in the air once when I was a kid, and it was bad. But the landing wasn't good. Oh, boy, you know, everything was fine in the air. It was that sudden stop hitting the ground, right? Hitting the snow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, I think the Insurrection Act is an option,

but shouldn't he start arresting people to, you know, in the first place for insurrection? Is that possibility? Because the Interaction Act changes a lot of things that people don't realize. And that's why it is a big, big hammer. And I understand that's why he's holding back. But how bad does it have to get here? You start arresting these police officers for not doing their job, regardless of who's paying them.

They are to uphold the Constitution. Anyway, that's a possibility. Just start arresting people. They start finding right up and straightening it up. Most of this protest is paid. We're just going along with the next color revolution in our own country. Pretty much. I think that's going on on Barry, a lot of fronts.

And I don't think Trump's really on our side anymore. You don't. But I just wanted to call about the Shanghai silver price being $103 right now. You could swim your stuff over there. Whoa, wait a minute. Wait a minute. I didn't check the price of silver this morning. So the price on the Shanghai exchange, 103?

Seriously? It's been like that for a long time, yeah. Why is it so expensive in Shanghai? I'm sorry to be a little ignorant on that. Oh, yeah, I thought you knew about that. Yeah, it's been like that for a while because of the, you know, the demand. There's a lot of reasons. They don't, you know, the Comax is holding the price down here.

And I'm glad they are because inflation would be ridiculous if it was 101. Uh-huh. I don't know. But the demand from silver is, I think there's something went on down there in Venezuela. They had a lot of silver stock. they had 840 tons, I think it disappeared. And I think that's now off the market. I don't know if China or Russia or whoever intervened

and took that silver out of there before the invasion. If that happened, then that took that silver off the market. And I think that was already scheduled to go out for, what's that company that's building the batteries now? Yeah, yeah, it doesn't matter. What, B-YD? That's the electric car company? There's a new battery.

They get silver-based battery. Oh, okay. Well, I'm looking at the price of silver just now in the United States markets, the futures market. Yeah, it's about $9.9.5. Gold at 4673 this morning. Michael, appreciate the call. Thank you for that. 770KMED.

Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hello. Hi, Lucretia. Hi, Lucretia.

Got about a minute. Can you make a good point here? Yeah, I'm very concerned about the fire retardants being used. They say the one by Seneca, but the other ones that they're using are being put out by Bonsanto, and they have really toxic heavy metals that all go into our water supply. But with the people that, you know, want to have drones to carry around foam retardants, I mean, this can be a death of all our fish in all of our lakes and rivers. Well, hopefully reason will hold out here.

I have 10 seconds left. I want to end on a positive note. We are going to get a slaughterhouse here in Southern Oregon, okay? And it's not for We the People. This is the Bill Meyer show.