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They asked the survey, and the survey came out. I have a feeling that we may have come up with the wrong answer. The survey came up with a wrong answer, wrong answer. And I hope this is not one of those things where, yes, I know we put out these surveys and we really hope that you will respond to these because we really do want your input until your input's the wrong answer. I don't know. Do you have a beat on it? Have you talked to anybody on the city council maybe getting a kind of feel for where they're going to be moving on this one?

This is going to be interesting. It really will be. I know I was talking about Baker City the other day. And actually, I think it was last year I was talking about at the end of last year and how, Baker City and they had the the safety people from, what is it, is it, Kittering, that traffic consulting firm that Brad Bennington was always talking about. There's like one, one traffic consulter that consulted that goes all around the country and they're the ones that come in here and they're giving you, oh, oh gosh, we have to slow the traffic down here and traffic

calming and we have to do this. We got to put the road diets in. We have to do this. And that, and And Baker City said no. They actually said no. I was so shocked. My gosh, a city council actually said we're going to vote no. We're going to vote no on these gangrene morons that have taken over traffic planning here in the state of Oregon. So I just wanted to be clear that everybody knows that it is possible for a city council to actually say no to this gangrene agenda. you just have to have the conviction and votes.

That's it. But given your read, do you think that the city of Metterbury will actually follow what the people do? 7705663-3-770KMedia. I would love to get your opinion on that or anything else which happens to be on your mind too. I'm trying to be guardedly optimistic. I really am, you know. But the fact that they screwed it up so horribly the first time, it gives me pause. But I'm always, I would love to be proven wrong.

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This has been a long time in coming. A lot of people have been irritated about this for some time. Do you believe that the city council will actually do what the city residents have requested, and that is to return Main Street to the original configuration before it ended up being road dieted and bolstered in bicycle bumweight to death. Any thoughts on that? Do you think the City Council will go with you or not? Tell me why. Or maybe they'll even choose one of the other options. But I guess they were kind of leaning, sort of leaning over to the...

We still want to keep the bicycle bumways. We still have to have that. You know, we can't just put it... back to, I mean, the old Main Street was just nasty. It seemed to work fine to me. It was also easy to park on, too. And I don't know, are you about ready to get rid of those parquet things, where they call about in which the restaurants taking over some of those sidewalks? I've never been a big fan of that, but that's just me. 770KMED is my number. I think Dave's here. Dave, good to have you here. What's on your mind?

Welcome. Yeah, this is minor, Dave. That's why I said, hi, Dave, you know. You don't have to say Minor Day. I didn't hear you. You don't have to re-inmate. You know, I'm always having fun with you. I can always predict it's like, hi, Dave.

Yeah, this is Minor Dave. I know. I wanted to finish yesterday about credit cards, Bill. Sure. Okay. What would be missing? We were talking about that. The story, the Trump administration, trying, in fact, there's even some legislation being

planned to cap interest rates for credit cards at 10%. Okay. So this is about a currency bill. You know, we have debt currency. And so when you use a debit card, you're just recycling all debt currency. But every time you use a credit card, you're creating new currency. Oh, so it's borrowed on the banking industries world. It's borrowed into existence through the Fed, right?

Through the Fed, yeah, because remember, it's a public-private partnership, which I hate. But with the participating banks, and most of the participating banks own either MasterCard or Visa. And so when you, you know, because you're creating a contract for debt, and then they create, then they turn it into currency. It's called M3 currency. Now, a question I would have for you, I remember there was a Supreme Court case a number of years ago. in which a guy had sued because the bank ended up admitting in court that, because the guy ends up saying he shouldn't have to pay back his loan, because the bank didn't really have any skin in the game.

Because of the way the Federal Reserve, this Fiat currency system works. In other words, it gets borrowed into existence. Something is borrowed into existence. In other words, it's fake, right? You know, there's, you didn't have to do any work to do it. You borrow this money into existence and then you loan it out of the bank. And then if you don't pay back the currency that was created by the banking system, then they come take your real stuff. You know what I'm getting at here?

Just kind of what a funny money system it is that we have these days. What's monopoly money. Yeah. And it just strikes me as when you actually look at how long. the money is borrowed into existence and then is created as if real effort or real, you know, unlike when if you had to have an ounce of gold to buy a house, right? You'd have to go, you know, prospect and mine the gold and smelt it and put it into a deal and assay and all these other sort of things and spend lots of energy. But in the banking system, it just gets created. And then,

and then they have the right to take real things if you don't pay back the fake created money. amazing system we have in the United States, really is. Yeah, so what was the final decision as the Supreme Court? Well, he actually, well, it was like a state court. I think it was in Oklahoma or some other Midwestern state. And it didn't, and he ended up winning the case, but they ended up changing the laws and they ended up going away. He did prove his case from what I understand that, oh, yeah, the bank didn't really have

a dog in the fight. It's not like they were taking money from the state. savings accounts of people and loaning it out for it. It was borrowed into existence. Well, that'd be illegal. Yeah. Okay. So it's a strange thing, but most of us don't think about that, how that ends up being worked out there, how they can take real stuff. You don't want to create currency for the Fed. Stop using credit cards. Yeah. Okay. I appreciate the call, Dave. 770K. ABD. Hi, good morning. This Bill. Yeah, John and Medford, Bill. John, pleasure. What's on your mind? Well, two things. So when I drive downtown, I have to go through this gauntlet of cars, which is kind of weird looking, which brings me to the idea that, you know, this grant money situation kind of reminds me of like seals waiting for fish to be dropped into their mouths at SeaWorld.

Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. And it really kind of removes us from control of our own destiny. It makes sure that we have no control if we're not, uh, you know, taxing ourselves to a sufficient method locally to be able to do things that we need. And instead, you're begging for the fish to be dropped in by Salem Democrats. You know, I'm getting that? That sort of thing. Yeah, and nothing like looks different when you go town to town. You know, this is like a cookie cutter. Well, it worked in this city.

We're going to do it here. And we're going to alter our plan because we're getting free money with consequences. Do you think that the Metford City Council will actually listen to the people who told unequivocally in this survey, we want Main Street put back the way it was. Bill, money is a drug. I'm reminded of a time when, you know, we kind of had this cat epidemic, and I think we still do. So a few years ago, I and a couple of people went before the council.

And you know what their solution was? Well, let's apply for a grant and see if we can deal with the issue. You're trying to tell me that the city of Medford is incapable of being able to deal with the cat problem locally? Yes, on their own. And it's like a knee-jerk. It was a knee-jerk response. It's like the drug and the drug pusher, we have to go to the grant before we can do anything. And I thought, really, you can't come up with anything locally without depending on a grant. Hmm. There's no plan, no talking with the county, no nothing like that. Interesting. Nothing. Nothing. But we probably have an equity officer hired within the city of Medford. We probably have money for that, though, right? Yeah, it's all about priorities, Bill. Thank you for the call.

Appreciate it there, John. 770K.M.D. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. It's Wednesday. What's your name? This is Dawn. Dawn.

Welcome. I'm so unfair when looking at public issues. Okay. And... Well, unfair away then. Go ahead. I'm listening. The cars you addressed earlier, we're not going to create an eternal machine.

And that said, the entire universe is running down. It's cooling. slowing. So we're approaching entropy now? Is that what you're claiming or what? Oh, yeah. You can't stop entropy. Can you? No. You're the perpetual motion machine. So here's where I'm going. I look at all regimes run downhill. They're destined to failure. There are no eternal governments. And what Americans forgot. And this is John in England who did the The big deal, it's called the Magna Carta, recognizing the limits of kings, recognizing individuals, commoners, having property rights. So we're in the new world, this great nation conceived in

liberty and dedicated to a proposition or her three. Now, you have an entity Medford where, with the consent of the governed, an entity created Medford, the incorporation, which only serves to take away rights of citizens. It doesn't provide rights. It can't secure them. So now the power to take away rights like HMOs, they control your lawns, the color of your house, if you can even park, I've been in the, where you cannot park a car outside of your house. And whatever, okay, whatever is not permitted is required, right? Whatever is not permitted, you know, that kind of thing. So, seeing that Medford has no eternal future and there are organs full of ghost towns, okay?

And then history, archaeology is about finding an unearthing ancient cities, cities of antiquity. Oh, we found Babylon. Why did they leave? like modern-day Tehran, an ancient, ancient capital, is being evacuated because somebody turned off the water. I think it's a conspiracy. Donald Trump turned off the water to Iran, okay? Actually, I think they've been suffering a drought for quite some time over there, haven't they? For real? It takes, it takes, you know, takes fun time to really screw up an ancient aquifer. Yeah. Well, hey, just ask Vegas, right? Vegas has been doing that for a while, right?

bomb Vegas it should have never been there okay never so look at at medford's little little entity where we are uh it can't fix his problems because the consent of the governed again you have an elite to you who really make all the decisions and then instead of giving the people in option a or option b the the real solution is option c which is never considered Well, option C is like to have never done the ridiculous stuff in the first place. Is that what you're getting at? Why is the motoring public taxed? So a handful, or maybe less than a handful, can ride their bicycles.

Now they've taken public funds to create the special green zone in front of crosswalks, so bicycles don't have to demount and walk across like a normal person. They're given all the rights of pedestrians and all the rights of the motoring public. And on Biddle Road, I called 911 for one bicycle stopping all the traffic in the passenger lane, one-way lane, and then 14 feet to his right is the dedicated bicycle path. So I was told that a bicycle has all the rights and privileges, but none of the obligations of a passenger car, which is licensed, it's insured, the operator is licensed, and the rules are enforced by a car. a special pack of people called police. Well, perhaps maybe, are you implying then that the pack notice police should be doing the exact saying it should be the same exact rules for the bicyclists as there are for the motorists?

Yes, your creditor. It was called a special class, which is prohibited. Ending special classes for bicyclists. All right. Thanks for the call. 770K. I'll grab one more in the news time. Hi, good morning.

Who's this? Hi, this is Chris. I guess I'm going to be a little more simple than your last two callers. I'm just going to say, Metro downtown is done. Put a fork in it. It's done. I was down there a couple days before Christmas around 11 o'clock, and I saw maybe 10 people. Half of that was homeless. And I just, I said, this is sad. I'm sorry to say it, but I don't know what. But they can't, there's no business, there's no, nothing downtown to bring anything back there, and I don't see them doing that. Well, Chris, I know that the KOBI was reporting that the downtown Medford Association is launching a storefront activation program made possible through recent funding from the city of Medford,

so this is another grant, I guess. So $25,000 will be used to help fill three to five vacant storefronts in the downtown area. and so I guess the goal is to support some entrepreneurs. What's that now? 10 or 20 vacant storefronts there? No, they said three to five vacant storefronts. No, but I mean total how many are there? Oh, there's quite a few.

Quite a few. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I just think it's, I mean, I was so, I haven't been, I don't know, you know, I've been here for a long time. The thing is, well, we all, we know, we all want downtown. I think everybody would like the downtown to be more vibrant and it's true, but I think what the challenge, though, is that the first thing I think the city of Medford should do is stop punishing people who drive. What do you think?

Well, that's true. I mean, this whole road diet thing is a bunch of BS and, you know, it's all the greenies and ODOT and everything. And I just, I don't know what the answer is. Well, I would say the answer to start with, though, is to not damage it anymore, okay? Right. Not damage it. I mean, put it back where it was. You know, we don't have Morris's shoe there anymore.

I mean, there's just nothing. It's just so sad. There's hardly any banks downtown anymore. Yeah. Well, we have traffic cameras. The speed cameras, of course, that is probably the number one complaint that I get about downtown. Well, yeah, I've been a victim of one of those, too. So I know.

I agree. And these are choices. These are choices that people supposedly running the city have been making. Well, they need to get somebody in there that has a common sense and not a college degree. That's an interesting way of putting it. The point being, though, is that you see the issues, and I would just say, please, reach out to your city counselors and let them know, rather than, okay, well, tonight we're going to vote on the lady grant stream funding that we have begged into existence from the federal government or from the state government, okay? Appreciate the call, though. Thank you. 736, KMEDA.

An intelligent solution is shared with others. This is Randall at Advanced Air. Are you looking for a heating contractor to service your service? At Kia Medford. Click Kiomedford.com. Hi, I'm Lamont from Morley's, and I'm on 106.7, KMED. No, Dad, you're aware of what's been going on in Minneapolis, Minnesota over the last couple of weeks. and, of course, there was a fatal ICE officer shooting there, igniting the protest,

and then there was another one that wasn't fatal, but needless to say, it's been affecting public schools there and some strange things going on in Minneapolis. I think it's reflecting bigger problems in the educational system overall. And I wanted to talk with Ryan Staley about that. He's the director of research for defending education. Ryan, it's great to have you back on. Welcome to the show. Hey, Bill.

Yeah, thanks. Jeremy, Bill, I appreciate it. Hey, tell us a bit about defending education first, and they're going to get into how education's being, well, I guess, screwed over for some of the kids here. Okay. Well, yeah, our main focus is to expose and, you know, expose this bad stuff, empower parents in their communities to work with schools in positive ways to bring about change that benefits to children, right? I mean, we have a 30% reading proficiency rate across the country amongst our students.

And so our schools need to be held accountable where it deserves to be held accountable. And then we also have, we do some legal work where we've won some lawsuits over, forced pronoun use against the Biden administration for the transgender stuff. So we've got a couple of buckets that we focus on and areas that we work on. But this specific topic that you want to address actually is a bit in my wheelhouse. I spent a number of years writing on researching and writing on this topic of not just the COVID lockdowns. And I think that there's a piece of this that needs to be talked about in a second. but the bigger and wider concern about what's happening in Minneapolis with the schools, and it's an activism issue.

So what is happening with schools and education in Minneapolis right now, after what's been going on with the ICE arrests and everything else going on, the tumult? Yeah, so the shutdown part. Let's hammer that first. Part of me understands, you know, from an article that I'm looking at, the issue in Minneapolis public schools was, I think, based on ICE chasing somebody and they ended up on a school campus, putting students in danger, et cetera. If that's the real story there, you know, I get it. Like I do support that that's an issue, right? That these federal agents are chasing bad actors on the school campuses, putting at a time of dismissal, no less, right?

So I think we need to be discerning here and be able to parse out and say, this situation is really bad and it's unsafe for the children. Fair enough. Schools can't. So, yeah. But the schools shutting down, citing safety, I throw up a red flag on it. Okay. No, in a way, so you tell me, Minneapolis schools shut down because of one incident? And then they just closed down?

What do they do? Well, yeah, I think that they're also claiming that. at the tragic shooting death of Renee Good. And they're just saying everything is so heated right now that we really should shut schools down. Let's back up a step. The majority of these kids, you know, my family and I, we spent a long time teaching

in schools in urban low socioeconomic districts. And I'm not saying that these families are the exact same families, but let's just do a zoom out, right, say generally speaking, a lot of these kids come from, sadly, might come from single family homes, parents who work during the day. Is this really safe for them to have the freedom to just leave their home when they want without adult supervision, especially we're talking, like let's say, middle school to elementary school kids? Is that the best, is that the state, is that really safe for

them, let alone the educational aspect, right? Like, these schools are pretty safe places overall. Yeah. And they have, and they have, by the way, they have policies in place on how to deal with ICE. And I agree, ICE should not just be running into schools and arresting people, but there are also policies in place where they have to have warrants and so on, so forth. So, you know, let's, so I want to set that caveat aside. Like, like, I think, I hope that people agree with me on, on those issues. If they don't, sorry, we disagree. Well, I am kind of surprised that they're required to have warrants because actually ICE's actual law enforcement duty does not require a warrant to be able to detain somebody.

That is actually in law. They are not required. They have to have a reasonable suspicion of someone. I'm telling you what the policies, by way, hundreds and hundreds, if not thousands of school districts now have this policy in place, especially like every district in California. But that's what they're listing in the policy, is that these guys got to come in. They've got to identify themselves. They got to have blah, blah, but it was really nefarious.

And this is where I'm going to jump into the activism part. By the way, I'm going to jump from Minnesota to Chicago Public Schools, for example, but it includes the teachers union in Chicago because it's all the same ecosystem. They all share the same information. and they're all doing the same stuff. They're all pushing the same demands, believe or not. And they're probably all sharing the basic national union too, aren't they? That would have to be part of the mother's milk, wouldn't it?

Yes. And so when they go to their meetings and stuff, they're all sitting around, round handling the stuff out. We have a report at our website, defending ed.org, showing that the Chicago Teachers' Unions has an entire ICE document that spells out that they encourage schools to use the all-call system. So these schools have, for those that might not know, they have like a text message or a phone call system

that if there's an issue, weather, whatever it is, they have an all-call system that goes out to every family that says this thing happened. Like my kids have this with our school district. Sure. And they want the schools to use that as a warning system that ICE agents are in the area. Now, I want you to think about that.

If somebody, that can be also a way to protect criminal. Let's set aside that illegal aliens are actually criminals for crossing the border. But let's say the actual criminals like murderers and rapists, et cetera. They're warning those people in the community that, hey, ICE is in the area to hide them. So why wouldn't the public school teachers, the unions that are involved in promulgating this, why wouldn't they be charged with obstruction of justice? Because it sounds like that's exactly what they're trying to do. They're trying to harbor fugitives, aren't they?

Or protect them. I'll be honestly. I don't want to answer that only because that is not my place of expertise in terms of legal. Okay. But I would agree with your feeling. Like, wait, what's going on here? Like, why are these people? Why are they allowed to do this?

I don't know. We always pass it on information on to individuals in Congress, et cetera, who might be able to look into it better from those angles. But I want to jump back to Minnesota because you have the teachers unions, both Minneapolis Federation of Teachers and also the St. Paul Federation of Educators, pushing this stuff. And part of the reasons that it works to their advantage of the schools are closed, if you want to connect some dots here,

is it allows them to then go on the street and be street activists. Oh, okay. So we claim then that it's unsafe for the kids to be in the Minneapolis schools because of ICE, and then the teachers then get to go out on the street and be throat-punching Antifa activists against ICE, right? Is that kind of what we're talking about? If I was connecting that and doing a little bit of speculating, I would say that's what's happening. Considering especially when they come out and we have documentation of this showing that they're calling for a day of, I think it's, this Friday possibly or next week, that they want a day of like no school,

no teaching, no shopping, you know, that type of like protest stuff. And so this, if they're, listen, if the adults are not in school to teach,

they can be on the streets protesting. Now, I want to be very clear, Bill, as a former teacher myself, it's not all teachers either. There are a lot of teachers that they just want to teach the kids. They want them to learn to read.

They want to go, home to their families and they want to take care of their families and do that type of stuff. But there's a pretty good percentage of unionized teachers' workforces, though, that are really looking to be activists. Isn't that kind of what you're implying here? There's a percentage, and I think it varies on where, like, a rural school district, it's going to be very low engagement. But if you're talking like a Twin Cities type of teaching population, where, by the way, Bill, and we have a report on our website again, showing how they've been screening for for applicants in the teaching pools to bring in teachers who are um who adhere to the

DEI you know activist mindset and then you have to add in the college of education we highlight this in another a different report on Portland um Portland state and their department their their college of education in order to be an elementary school teacher certification certification process at Portland State, you have to be a social justice activist. It is actually front and center. It's not how to be a great teacher. It's how to be a social justice, anti-racist educator. Isn't it any wonder then that the kids come out of these educational opportunities,

if you want to call it that, looking to be radical activists then, rather than an educated citizenry ready to take the reins of power? And, boy, I tell you, it's kind of scary. You hear this. It's an entire ecosystem. And then you there in Oregon have ethnic studies, which Minnesota also has ethnic studies. And ethnic studies is a political program, far left political programming encased in history and culture. And one of the main units, the final unit of every one of these ethnic studies curriculums is street activism by the students.

So they're being trained up as teachers. Then they're going into the schools. They're training up the kids. and then they have a curriculum as training the youngest of learners to be these radical street activists. And by the way, we're going to be outing very soon some documentation showing that in Minnesota, the teachers unions in cahoots with radical nonprofits are currently training up high school, at least high school students, to go protest on the street. So if the kids are not in school, so let's circle back around to the no school thing,

the kids also have an opportunity to organize and be radical activists in March with the teachers then. Okay, wow. Ryan Staley is the Director of Research for Defending Education. They had these reports up there, defending ed.org, defending ed.org. I wanted to take it back to something that happened here, and I think this is down that same, to a lesser extent, that same kind of plan of action here. I had listener Reagan who wrote me who said, I wish we had a Charlie Kirk-like person to go interview all these students walking out of class. Well, this would have been yesterday at 2 o'clock to find out if they actually know what they're protesting and why.

They had a walk out in some of the schools here in Southern Oregon, 2 o'clock yesterday. And my answer to her, Ryan, and I don't know if you agree with me or not, and I'm thinking that the parents all, already made that decision for their children when they put them in the charge of today's public school, a student system or public school system. I mean, is that, is that too, you know, a bridge too far or a statement too far? I mean, is that really radical to think that? Because it seems to me that you're not seeing this in the private school system, are you? Yeah, you know, that's a tough one.

I mean, I think, I think there's so many caveats. layers to that. I think there are some areas where I would agree with that statement. There are some areas, you know, where we live, we are very happy with our public schools and the people that teach them and we know them very well. And, and I've done my due diligence. So, you know, there's not anything, but we also live in a very conservative area. And so I think it really depends. And let's, I want to jump back just a second and add something to your comment. A lot of these kids are kids and having taught from middle school all the way to, you know, to the university level, they're walking out because they're walking out of class.

They don't have to be in class. Yeah, they're not looking at the politics of it. It's, hey, we're out of class. Cool. Let's do it, right? So if you were to interview with them and they didn't know what they were protesting about. Just assume that they really are not engaged in the political side of this. They just get out of class and the teacher said it was cool and the admins let them do it. So why be in class? Why be that one kid who's still sitting there like where, you know, hey, what's going on here? And so I really believe that the majority of these kids are just kids and they don't really care about the issue. The problem is you have a very, very, very small subgroup of very engaged radical kids who then get connected inside the schools with a very

small subgroup of very radical activist teachers. And these nonprofits that I mentioned earlier that are like far left professional agitators and activists, some of these people have clubs. They have clubs inside the schools. The Democratic Socialists of America have clubs inside the schools, sunrise movement. You know how Turning Point USA, to go back to Charlie Kirk, they're trying to get these clubs in the schools and they're getting rejected because they present the alternative, and these radicals can't have that. They can't have kids having an alternative voice in these club programs. All right. Well, since we actually have a con, since we've had this communist revolution, this is essentially a Marxist communist revolution within the educational

system, why is anybody here within the sound of my voice being forced to pay for it? And what would you say is the plan of attack on something like this? Because it took us a while to get here. They used to kind of hide it. Now it's just out in the open, certainly out in the open here, you know, in the state of Oregon. No one's pretending. I think it's going to take a, it's going to take a group effort and we're going to have to tackle this thing like in World War II where the Allies figured out to go after the ball bearing factories instead of the tank factories. right you got to figure out what's what's the thing in your in your community that can really you know twist those screws and throw some sand in the gears and um it could be funding it could

be some other things could it even be could it even rise to the fact that uh the american federation of teachers you know the national uh union let's say is essentially an enemy of education at this point in time i hate to say that but they're they're funneling they're we've documented They're funneling hundreds of millions of dollars into far-left groups and political packs to drive their agenda. So, yeah, I think. How about a decertification? Is this something that the federal government, there is state – well, I know the state government wouldn't decertify it, but, you know, just actually decertify it as – hey, listen, we're going to have to start with a new group,

and no, you can't be, you know, out here. Well, I mean, listen, we – I just played a clip yesterday from a – what was it, Leslie Moon? as a state rep here, who is her proudest achievement. She was out there on Martin Luther King Jr. Day, Ryan, talking about how, and I am one of the biggest supporters, the biggest community organizers for the nation's largest teachers union as Oregon is at number 49 or number 50 in school and student accomplishment. That is her take, and she's a proud Democratic Socialist of America. So, I mean, the barbarians are already, they're over the gate, and they're putting out the product.

So, you know, it seems to me that there needs to be a much more radical approach against the radicals than just saying, okay, I'll just vote for a new school board. Right. Well, yes, yes, I think that's a part of this puzzle, but you judge a tree by its fruit, right? Yeah. And bad trees can't produce good fruit. And so, you know, here's something that your listeners can do. Start getting teachers to not be in the unions. Because every teacher that is not in the union is $800 to $1,000 a year.

And that seems like small potatoes. But when you have 13,000 teachers like in Minneapolis, in St. Paul, Minneapolis, 13,000 teachers paying $1,000 a year, that's what, $1.3 million? And when you start shipping away, that's how you defund the teachers union. Yeah, and that that 1.3 million buys a lot of signs and a lot of bricks and a lot of water bottles for protest, you know, really does. Yes, and it buys a lot of school board elections. Uh-huh. Yeah, more important of all, all right? I really appreciate you joining me, and we're going to have to have you back on this, but like I said, you are the director of research.

You dig into the money and connect these dots. Ryan Staley's the Director of Research, Defending Education, the reports and things that he's talking about in Minneapolis and elsewhere, defendingad.org. You take donations there to Ryan? We do, sir. We appreciate all the help we can get. Ryan, we'll have you back. Thank you for the call. Appreciate you, Bill. Appreciate you, man. Yep. Bye. This is KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Mepardt. KBXG grants pass. Are you turning 65 and entering Medicare this year? The details can be confusing and it's easy to miss important facts or get stuck with the late feet.