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Episode Date: January 23, 2025

Capt. William E. Simpson of Wild Horse Fire Brigade talking the need for more wildlife lawnmowers, so to speak, reducing fuel load. D62 quiz, open phones and more.

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sir? Good morning. I'm well, Bill. Thank you. Okay, maybe we could just call you, could you have a doctorate on horseology? I don't know if there is such a term. Well, we teach wild horse ecology for Cal State, so I guess we're officially uh tas here oh okay nothing wrong with that so anyway yeah yeah a lot of noise being made about uh the wild horse or at least restoring the herbivory we've talked about this for many years here epic times had a really interesting article on you the other day and uh and of course it continues to spread out there and the LA fires, of course, stimulating the imagination of getting the fuel loads taken down. Right. And you, and you're still continuing to talk with people and they're looking at wild horses and other animals, natural ways to go after a lot of that. What's the,

what's the status at this moment? Right. There's a lot of interest in what we're talking about now from SoCal. I got a county supervisor from down there called me. And so they're looking to get testimony from me about the mixed herbivory idea. You know, and it's a lot of people like Congressman LaMalfa does not understand our program at all. I mean, all these years you've been talking talking to Lamalfa and he still doesn't? Really? No, he won't talk to me. That's the problem.

You know, he thinks he's got all the answers. Okay, what did you call him? Okay, Captain Bill, what did you call him? What? I've emailed him. I've called him. In fact, his assistant, Aaron Ryan, walks around telling everybody that wild horses only eat green grass and they can only stand on level ground. I mean, it's just like ridiculous. So anyway,

so aside from that, there are people who are willing to learn and find out that, oh yeah, they are a native species. Oh yeah, by the way, they eat quite a bit of different stuff that domestic. Yeah, but there's no way to make money off of it, right? Isn't that the real issue? Well, you know, right now when you're losing thousands of lives every wildfire season, thousands of people are dying prematurely every year. And now we're talking probably this could be a trillion-dollar loss this coming year in wildfires. We're already at $250 billion in the L.A. fires. So this is really, this is a big deal. And the other thing is, it's really sickening to hear all this focus

on forest fires when you do the analysis, the insurance companies, scientists, 66% of all these wildfires are fueled by grass and brush, not by wind, not by climate change. You know, people keep saying, oh, fueled by the wind. Wind doesn't fuel a fire. Well, yeah, but the thing is, though, these are actual, and I think what you're talking about, though, what gets passed over or glossed over is that these are urban firestorms that are doing this massive amount of damage, right? Right. Well, 66% of all fires, all wildfires, are grass and brush fuel, okay?

Not trees. So that's the elephant in the room. And by a very large margin, grass and brush fires cause death and homelessness, loss of business, you know, and then the cost. Again, we're probably, with wildfires this coming year, 2025, it may eclipse a trillion dollars in losses. So we're already at $250 billion just in Los Angeles. So the thing is this. This is a mixed herbivory idea.

You need the big guys. horses for, you know, the outside the wooey on the tops of these hills where they can, you know, manage fire breaks and things like that, like we have for the Klamathon fire that helps save the Ashland. I mean, it made Cal Fire's suppression effort more effective. They had a great big, you know, 3,000 acre fire break, you know, that the horses put in. Boom. Now, Cal Fire will admit this, that the wild horses ended up helping that fire break

up and now i remember the clamathon blaze that was about four or five years ago right yeah yeah well you know the thing is is they don't want to talk out of shot out of story or out of school with gavin newsom oh you know they basically they want more money for suppression more money for fire training more money you know they've got all these shovel-ready jobs. And the thing is, is prevention, not suppression. Prevention is the tool we need to be putting all the big money into, not after we're on fire. You know, it's kind of like, you know, when I was, you know, working as the U.S. Marine officer and a captain, I worked part-time for the Coast Guard. And we'd go on to people's boats and we'd look around. You know, your life raft's ineffective here. You're

going to have to get a new one and get it inspected. And they complain, oh, you know, that's terrible. You just like make the spend money. We say, hey, look, you know, you can't imagine every time we go out there and you rescue somebody, when they're in the water dying, they'll give their entire fortune for a life raft. And here you can just spend a few bucks and pictures. Prevention is everything, and we're overlooking it. We have too many people on the grift, including government people on the grift. How do you see government people on the grift when it comes to wildfire? What do you think about that well well basically they're they're proposing

uh funding uh solutions that just don't work i mean look at senate bill was it 682 or whatever it is marsh did up there oh oh oh senate oh okay i'm glad you brought that up because uh this is something we were talking about i interviewed senator golden about that last week. Senate Bill 762, the wildfire risk map bill, and there's a lot of stuff involved with this. But it's interesting that you bring this up here, that the vast majority of the damage and the problems and the death in the wildfire world is not the wildfire out in the rural properties, but it's the urban firestorms. And yet, they're all talking about just wildfires by the forests. Isn't that weird?

Right. 66% of all fires are fueled by grass and brush, not trees. Not trees. Not trees. And last year, after all that money you guys spent in Oregon, you had a 1.9 million acres of land burned, incinerated. 1.9. Worst year ever.

So, I mean, it's like a VW chasing a Porsche here. They're pouring money like crazy. And the reason is, is it's a failed idea. It's a failed concept. So we have to step back and we go, look, this isn't working. You know, if we're going to chase the Porsche, we need a, you know, a souped up Corvette or something. And we're going to have to change what we're doing here.

So Los Angeles, what we could do is use a mixture of both. Like I was saying, you put the goats in the rural areas, and then in the urban areas and rural areas where you can do livestock, cattle, and sheep, hell yeah. You put a lot of those critters all over the place. And then in the deep wilderness, you know, the vacant lands where there's too many wolves and bears and lions, that's where you put the horses because they can live in those conditions. And they need natural selection that controls, I mean, for two million years, it controlled population and maintained genetic vigor.

So if we do it correctly with a mixed species herbivory and we don't try to say we're going to have every blade of grass grazed by cattle like lamalpha's thinking you know that doesn't work it's not scalable you cannot scale cattle and sheep across 300 million acres you cannot scale up prescribed fire on 300 million acres but you see that is now there that statement right there is the takeaway you cannot put enough in fact i even think senator golden halfway agreed with me a little bit i don't want to put uh you know words in his mouth from my talk from him last week but i said you can't put enough prescribed fire on these lands to take care of all i mean we have millions upon millions of acres that uh need the so-called collaborative fire treatments in there.

And what? We're just supposed to endure smoke forever? You know, 365? Well, you're right. And then here's the worst part about trying to use fire, prescribed fire, whatever they want to call it, RX fire, ecocultural fire. They try rebranding it all the time. UCLA just came out with a study. That smoke is killing people. That smoke in California

alone, any smoke like that is killing 5,000 people prematurely every year in California. And you know this personally because your late wife died from the wildfire smoke of that particular year. I forget which year she passed, the wildfire smoke of that particular year. I forget which year she passed, but it was a pretty serious fire year. Yeah, it was the Klamath on fire, 2019. It was not carbon monoxide. What's happening is because it's prodigious fuel, we have excessive fuel, because the native herbivory has collapsed,

and you've got all these government workers out there rounding up the very last herbivores, the last few wild horses that we have. You know, our deer population in California is down probably 2 million deer. They won't even do a census anymore. It's so embarrassing. Oregon's down 500,000 deer in the last 20 years. At least they still do census. But when you do that math, all those herbivores gone, just the cervids, the deer and the elk, you know, you're

talking a couple million animals that were grazing probably one and a half tons per animal per year. You know, you're talking three and a half million tons of grass and brush sitting there, okay? And that's why we have two-thirds of all these fires of grass and brush fueled. You know, the herbivory, our native herbivory is gone, and the last large herbivores left, you got the BLM and the U.S. Forest out there rounding up our last few lawnmowers. So, you know, it's no wonder we're on fire. We've got these people who are ignorant, who are managing for money instead of for the public safety and the interests of the American taxpayer.

And this has to end. And like Trump said, he just did that bill on merit. No more government jobs without merit. You have to show merit to hold a government job. And that would mean also showing a pattern of success. Merit means accomplishment. Yeah, Bill, I'm going to post your latest article here that you sent me this morning from Epic again. And it's a wonderfully well-done article, okay, from Epic Times. And, you know, people need to understand that we can't burn the forest enough.

We're not going to be able to do that. There's not people to do that, nor can we really handle all of that wildfire smoke or even the prescribed burning smoke in our valleys, in our bowls, you know, that kind of thing. And restoring the natural herbivory would be part of this, too. And I know that's a longer-term deal, but, yeah, you need nature's lawnmowers out there, and we've been in the process of losing them for a long time. And I agree with you on that. Yeah, we have to start somewhere.

And the horses are a good beginning. And then the goats and the, you know, like this Palisades fire, people talk about defensible spaces. Well, all you have to do is study the Alameda fire. And you could see, you know, defensible spaces don't work if the landscape is choked with grass and brush. Defensible space is a myth. You know, you need a defensible landscape to win against these grass and brush fires, which are the elephant in the room.

Forest fires are not the elephant in the room. They don't kill nearly as many people. They don't cost nearly as much money. The loss of business, I mean, that 10-year period of UCLA looked at, $435 billion in economic loss. How much of this might be also due to the invasive cheatgrass? Could you comment on that? Do you know? Well, we have a lot of different invasive grasses.

And horses eat cheatgrass, by the way. Horses, they eat poison oak, they eat cheatgrass, they eat mistletoe. I mean, there's almost nothing out there they won't eat wild horses have an amazing uh amazing capability for eating all kinds of stuff now domestic horses yeah i i do agree with what lamal faze said yeah they're very picky because guess what they're habituated for 6 500 years by humans they want to be in a barn they have a little bed they have a trough yeah they're going to go look at them no predators you know in fact over time their brains have actually gotten smaller uh dr julie murphy on our board reported to me the other

day that they've done analysis what the brains of wild horses are actually bigger than those of a domestic horse yeah because they have to be you know that's kind of funny because that makes me think that gosh you know the welfare state's made us stupid too yeah that's it we'll apply it to humans your same theory okay well yeah hey bill he's gonna do that hey bill i'm almost out of time here but i wanted to give you uh a quick bite here there's a possibility that you may be part of what could be a great not a grammy but an Oscar-winning film here coming out pretty soon, a documentary? Well, yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. Thank you. Yeah, so Horse of Nature, one of our local director-producers, Audie Carlisle, who lived in, she has a series called Shasta

Stories, and she's got a Facebook page and a website, Shasta Stories. Anyway, she heard about the Klamathon fire and how Hornbrook struggled and what we went through and how the horses helped Cal Fire suppress the fire by having these big fire breaks. We used them. We pulled equipment into those fire breaks. I was on the fire line nine days. I mean, the kids, they had to rotate off, I think, in 36 hours so they don't get sick. I got lung damage from being up there so long.

But I was the only one that understood the local knowledge and so um she did she found out about that fire and she came up and talked to a lot of people in hornbrook she came up and saw the horse to talk to us so horse of nature is the name of this documentary it's collected four awards at the film festivals already and now it was official just recently officially selected for the american documentaryary Film Features down there in Palm Springs, which is the Oscar-qualifying event. So if it wins there, we would be qualified to move toward the Oscars if we wanted to go in that direction. So I guess the entry fees are pretty steep for that thing. But still, that's quite an honor to be Oscar-qualified. Yeah, to be considered.

How can we see that? Is there a way we can view it right now or not yeah yeah you can see the trailer um for the for the movie horse of nature it's uh if you google siskiyou news in fact i can put a link in the comments to the trailer for your audience um and if you and that way you could grab it and pick it up but you can see the trailer right now because it's being screened at the big film festivals. They don't like it if people put the whole movie out, the whole documentary out. Okay. You know, they kind of want to make it exclusive.

But we do have the trailer. And there's a variation of that documentary called Wild Ones where they focus a little bit more on the community and less on the horses. So she did this derivative work, which is actually very successful at the film festival. So we're really proud of Audie. She's a local lady here, producer, director. She actually now lives in Medford somewhere,

and we're really proud of the work she's done to help show the world that we've got neat people in our community here. Very good. I'm going to get that information up there, too, Doc. And it's great having you on, Bill. And we will stay in touch, and I'm hoping that if we can start looking at—and really, when you talk about the herbivory and not just the wild horses, but of course that being part of it where appropriate, that's a holistic answer or at least a part of the toolbox. It's a holistic way of looking at the things rather than fire, better call the firefighter every time. If we can reduce the fuel level on a natural and I I would say, continuing basis, not just one time.

I mean, it's one thing to do a prescribed burn someplace, but the next season it's right back. You know that, right? Right. Exactly. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. It's not scalable.

These guys work year-round all the time. They don't sue you. They don't need PERS. They don't need insurance. You know, if they get dead, they take care of themselves. You know, it's just really an easy thing to do, and it's super cost-effective because the horses are free. We own them. The U.S. citizens own our wild horses.

Yeah, indeed. Captain William E. Simpson, I appreciate your call as always, and you be well. We'll be in touch over at Wild Horse Fire Brigade. Okay? Thank you. Thank you, Bill. All right. 770-563-3770 kmed captain william e simpson always good to talk with him got the uh 14th annual wipeout hunger i was going through my pantry yesterday and i was looking here okay do i have any peanut butter yeah i do have peanut butter do i have any jelly yeah i

do have a little bit of jelly that I can spare with this. Well, Kelly's Automotive Service in Ashland and, pardon me, Grants Pass and Medford are doing this once again. And so I'm going to bring that in because, yeah, I've got some squeaky windshield wipers. You know how that goes. But all you have to do, though, is bring in 40 ounces or more of peanut butter and 10 ounces or more of jelly. And you just drop by either the Grants Pass or the Medford locations, and they'll put on a pair of new windshield wipers on your car.

And you know they're pretty expensive these days. I mean, the days of cheap windshield wipers are done. So, I mean, up to $35, up to $35 worth of windshield wipers they'll put on your vehicle. And this week, we have Ellie George at HomeQuest Realty who is matching all the donations of up to $500. So that's going to mean your peanut butter and jelly being doubled. You know, ineffective. It's really okay. So just do that right now.

This is a week to be doing it. It's Wipe Out Hunger. They take the peanut butter and the jelly. It's about getting protein in for folks who are suffering from hunger, you know, the hunger and maybe having some financial problems. And it goes to our local food banks. Okay. Kelly's Automotive Service and Ellie George with HomeQuest Realty, helping make a difference

with your help, of course. If you farm and ranch, there's always an off-season to-do list. KMED. It's the Bill Myers Show on KMED. Southern Oregon's place to talk. A lot of serious talk this morning. We need a dad joke break. Dad joke breaks.

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Okay? TwoDogsFab.com. Let me go to Brad. Hello, Brad. You wanted to talk about the BTUs and the LA Fires. Go right ahead. Hey, Bill. Good morning to you.

Sure. Morning. Great show this morning. Thank you. Trivia point real quick. Some of those native horses on Captain Bill's place are undoubtedly descendants of horses that my grandpa raised. He's right next to my grandpa's horse ranch that he put together back in the 30s and 40s. Had about a 3,000 acre horse ranch right next to where Bill is.

Oh, no kidding. Little trivia deal. So here's something nobody else is talking about on this man-made global warming deal and the BTU argument in this way. So what's a BTU? It's a British thermal unit. It's the amount of energy it takes to raise one pound of water, one degree Fahrenheit at sea level. So a pound of water is about a pint, right? So a pint of water raised at one degree, that's one BTU. For context, 12,000 BTUs is what we call one thermal ton, and your typical through-the-window air conditioner is about a 24,000 BTU unit,

you know, give or take, so that gives you some context. So, Bill, imagine in your mind the number of BTUs that are being released during this LA fire, right? In your mind, visualize all of the material that was converted, that the fire converted into energy, okay? I mean, it's... I would imagine it's kind of, well, almost incalculable or just, I mean, we can't even grasp the amount of heat energy released. It would take a super... Yeah.

So what's at the heart of the climate change argument? It's anthropomorphic change. In other words, it's something that man is doing that otherwise would not be done that's raising the temperature, correct? That's the argument. Yes. Yeah. So if you look at temperature averages for that area, I'm going to make a prediction,

and I'm pretty sure I'm right. You're going to find that the average air temperature has changed almost exactly zero all the way through this fire. And then ask yourself this question. If a release of energy of that magnitude can't even change the environmental temperature in that area at all, how much credibility does any of this climate change argument have? That's a really interesting statement there. You know, I'm going to have to get Greg Wrightstone on and ask him about that, about that energy release. But it would seem that now, of course,

we're talking about a one-time event right now or a knockoff. What they're saying, though, is that the release of this energy and the gases contained in it make longer-term changes, which may be more slowly. I think that's how they're doing it. I'm not that I'm trying to play the other side of the argument, but I just want to be fair about this. Right. But the thing is that to make an argument stick, you've got to have enough verifiable data to actually come to a conclusion. The thing is this. What this fire is proving, and by the way, it's proving the same thing that our forest fires up here prove. Like when we burn up a million acres in a summer, we prove the same thing, is that when you look at the scale of the number, at the volume

of atmosphere that you have to influence to actually affect a change, the numbers are so big that it's really the argument is just silly. Okay. Point well taken. Brad, I appreciate you making it. Dave, you wanted to talk about the senior administrative services, which, of course, Trump is trying to take a weed whacker to at the moment. Go ahead. Right. He wrote an understanding of memorandum. The director of budget and management

is to review all of the senior executives that was created during Carter's term. And, you know, they don't get regular pay like regular federal employee gets. They get much more, and it's made a lot of them millionaires. But what they do— Is that how Fauci ended up becoming so amazingly wealthy? He was the senior executive of service. So that's not the standard civil service person that we hear about within the swamp, right? Right.

Okay. So what he's done is he's ordered a review. He's frozen them out. He's ordered a review on merit-based and aligned with administration. If they're not, they're going to get fired. Now, there may be difficulties in court over that, but we'll see. Then the National Security Council, he's reorganized it. All the 17 different national security agencies and homeland director, he's mitigating their power. They can no longer sit at the National Security Council.

It'll be the heads of those. It'll be secretaries of state on that. Or, I mean, secretaries of whatever office they have. Because remember, senior executive services are in every agency. And so. So this could be a deeper, a deeper clean out, so to speak, than we might first look or most assume, right? All right. Dave, thanks for sharing a bit of that, and I look forward to learning more about this because, like I said, it's like absorbing information through a fire hose right now.

Let me go to line three. Hi there. Good morning. Who's this? Hello. This is Rick in Medford. Hello, Rick. What's on your mind today? I'm really on your show

thank you um say i know you like a laugh now and then and i this is not a bad joke okay yesterday in utah in a place called peter sinks utah the temperature was uh was minus 55 below. Minus 55? Yeah. I saw this in Yahoo News, and one of the comments below the article was this. In real cold temperatures, this is something that every man will understand, and it cracked me up. I don't know if you think it's funny or anybody else does, but it cracked me up. What did the comment say? The comment said, in real cold weather, this is something that every man understands. That is, they understand Peter Shrinks. Oh, I missed that.

Thank you for re- I'm sorry you had to re-explain the joke, okay? No, no, I don that. Thank you for re- I'm sorry you had to re-explain the joke, okay? No, no, I don't mind at all. I'm sometimes not very clear on things. I appreciate the joke. You can always appreciate the laugh, that's for sure. Let me go to line two. Hi, good morning.

Welcome. Hey, Bill. It's Matt. Hey, Matt. How you doing? I'm good. I ain't happy, but I'm good. So I'm watching Trump with Ellison and the guy from AI and the banker from SoftBank.

And I'm remembering Ellison from an article just a few months ago. This is back in September. The title of the article says, Omnipresent AI Cameras Will Ensure Good Behavior, says Larry Ellison. Oh, so Larry Ellison, who wants us to have our super AI via the Trump administration to cure cancer, but it's really about total surveillance instead. So several months ago, I called your show when... If you could back off your phone a little bit, though, I want to make sure it doesn't distort, okay? Okay. So several months ago I called your show, and I brought up that Trump sometimes gets infatuated with certain things,

and the oligarchs would be one of those things. And I have concerns about that because when he gets like that, then he can be talked into doing all kinds of things where he's not familiar he's a real estate guy not a tech guy and he will also look at great wealth and power in business as um as an indicator of well i should be doing what this guy does right yeah i i think he's quick to quick to sort of take the bait. But when I see these guys, Oracle has gotten huge into the cloud business. Their stock has gone from, this was during COVID, was trading at $40 a share, is now at $180 per share. And it's jumped just in the last few

days from 160 to 190. It's pulled back off that this morning after that initial run. Well, I gave you my suspicion this morning here, Matt. And I wanted to be very careful about this because the tech world doesn't really give a crap about us, other than being a particular market to be useful or to be surveilled so that the data can be used. But I find it fascinating that they want to sell massive AI under the guise of, we'll cure your cancer with mRNA. Well, this is what everybody does on the left, right? They tell you the thing they think you want to hear i i mean here's a here's a quote from him directly citizens will be on their best behavior because we are constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on he's talking about using drones um not just for police chase but for everything just a constant

monitoring of and there's another article here which well well it's the chineseification of our society is what the ai tech bros really want because that's the way kind of uh china works where you know a bit of wrong think during the uh the pandemic the so-called pandemic and the don't and the drone is out there yelling at you get inside citizen you know that kind of thing, right? Yeah. I mean, if you just look at the headlines, obviously these stories are, you know, they're all going to start to overlap or whatever. But one of the headlines here says Larry Ellison explains why Oracle is building so many clouds. around they're billing them around the globe because every every federal government around

the globe wants one of these huge data centers and the drones and all the other technologies so they can monitor their citizens so just be aware of what you're dealing with okay and uh stargate might as well have been nicknamed skynet just saying okay good good point and i'll just give musk a little tip of the cap here just because he's calling it out saying they don't have the money to do this secondly at least he was willing to stick his neck out which is unpopular these guys are only jumping on now and microsoft as you pointed out this morning is going to be involved in this there's your problem collecting data that the chat guys can use so yeah matt appreciate the update on that and your insight from the uh stock bro

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We go to Jerry first. Hello, Jerry the Bull. How you been? Oh, good. All right. Jerry, it was today, 1973. Former President Lyndon Baines Johnson dies in Johnson City, Texas, 64 years old. Not exactly an old man,

but after leaving the White House in 1968, LBJ returned to his beloved home state, Texas, with his wife, Lady Bird Johnson, immersed himself in the activity dearest to him, ranching. Although he was kind of retired, LBJ kept up a busy daily schedule reminiscent of his days in the White House. But the thing is, he was kind of an odd president. His biographer notes that at morning meetings on the ranch, Johnson instructed each hand to make a solemn pledge that you will not go to bed tonight until you're sure every steer has everything he needs. And he would kind of act that way in the White House, too. Each night he found not presidential briefings on his bedside table, but reports that he had ordered on the ranch's daily production of eggs. He'd get kind of like micromanaging.

He also tried to micromanage the Vietnam War. Remember that back in the day, Jerry? Oh, yeah. So the question for you today, what was LBJ's first job out of college? What did he do for a trade before becoming president? Was he a teacher? Was he a rodeo cowboy? Was he a bookkeeper?

Was he a tractor mechanic? Or was he a butcher in a grocery store? What did he do? It's one of those five. Oh, he lost Jerry the Bull. Well, I guess I'm going to go to Peggy next. Jerry's call dropped here, Peggy. So teacher, rodeo cowboy, bookkeeper, tractor mechanic, or grocery store butcher?

What happened? Butcher. You're going to say butcher. That would be ironic if that was true, right? I could see him. No, it wasn't. Sorry. Yeah, let me go to another Jerry.

Hello, Jerry. How are you doing? Good, good. How are you? Doing fine. So he wasn't a grocery store butcher, Jerry. Was it a teacher, rodeo cowboy, bookkeeper, or tractor mechanic? What do you say?

Let's do the bookkeeper. Bookkeeper. That would make sense, right? He's detail-oriented. No, it wasn't that either, Jerry. I'm sorry. Thank you. Bookkeeper. That would make sense, right? Is he detail-oriented? No, it wasn't that either, Jerry. I'm sorry. Thank you. All right.

I don't know who's on line four, but it's you. Hi, who's this? Hi, Bill. It's Phil. Phil. So it wasn't bookkeeper, so it's either teacher, rodeo cowboy, or mechanic for a tractor. What do you say? Well, the one that kind of goes with cows and what have you would be the uh uh rodeo

cowboy rodeo cowboy no i'm sorry it wasn't that either let me go next slide we're getting down to a brass taxi or hi good morning who's this hello is that me yeah it's you who's this hi rj all right rj tractor mechanic or teacher what did lbj first do well it must have been a teacher yes it was a teacher rj johnson's first career was a teacher now uh he was miserable by the way as uh you know retired and because he he just felt like a big failure you know great society didn't work and then on the day of nixon's second inaugural celebration johnson watched sullenly as nixon announced the dismantling of the great society pro uh programs and the next day

that he had achieved the ceasefire in vietnam and johnson wasn't able to do that and the day after that while lady bird and the daughters were in Austin, Johnson suffers a fatal heart attack at his ranch in Johnson City. So that is the story. All right? So, RJ, hang on. We're going to send you to Diner 62. Good going on that one, okay?

We'll have another one in a day or two, maybe even tomorrow. I don't know. One of each, K4. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. I appreciate you having been here this morning. We have a Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Good show. We always do.

We're going to work up some good guests and conversation. Jerry emails Bill at BillMyersShow.com. Jerry the Bull, sorry we missed you on Diner 62 for whatever reason. It says, Bill, Project Stargate. I just heard about it on a YouTube video last night. An AI project with billions invested. Their desire is to use mRNA vaccines to eliminate cancer and potentially other diseases they can detect through a simple blood test. An attempt to alter genes?

Is in Florida banning mRNA vaccine for COVID? Good point, Jerry. Yeah, there is a bit of pushback coming on this already. We'll talk tomorrow about it, okay?