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Episode Date: January 22, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klauserdrilling.com. With Bill Meyer. Happy Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Join the conversation at 770KMED 77056633. Appreciate you listening wherever you happen to be. What a night it was at the Metford City Council.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Medford City Council ended up, I was watching that. last night. And of course, yeah, they were having to go over that nonsense about the ADA ramps. And, gosh, you know, I guess the federal and state government is not going to be happening until every city and town is bankrupted, redoing handicap ramps, you know? It's just, don't even get me started. Like, you know, there's just been this entire business, this whole business of going out there and having people putting up protractors. Well, the angle of approach is supposed to be this and the other. So then they end up doing all of these.
Starting point is 00:01:01 It's just very expensive. But that was one thing that they talked about. But the big main event, though, had to do with the Main Street configuration. Remember, last night was when they were going to figure out what was the future of Main Street? Because back since 2023, we've had this nonsense of the bollards and the bike lanes, the buffered bike lanes. Boy, if I had to, you know, you almost need to have like a buffered bike lane beer game. You know, every time you hear them talking about buffered bike lanes around here in southern Oregon, you know, chug a beer. And then you'll be drunk within about a couple of minutes.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You'll be just, you know, pound it. That's the way it goes. But the city of Medford, the city council, voted five to four. And Main Street will be going back to its original three-lane configuration. Back to the way it was. The staff was there talking about, oh, gosh, we're not going to meet the standard. It's all other people are talking about, oh, no, people are going to be going faster on Main Street. It's not going to be safe.
Starting point is 00:02:06 Oh, we're not going to be making it with national norms. You know, the national regulations. You know, the practices are going with these buffered bike lanes. But, yeah, okay, here, honestly, what ended up happening here is that it was a split city council. And Mayor Michael Zerosensky broke the tie. he voted in favor of this. Not that he was incredibly in favor, but let me break down the vote for you. The people, the counselors voting yes for returning Main Street to the way it was,
Starting point is 00:02:38 counselors Keating, Quinn, Card, and Smith. Now, the ones that were voting, no, Kevin Stein, doesn't surprise me, Jessica Ayers, Kirlinger, and West. I think West was the one who was talking about, oh, you know, gosh, because of the way Main Street is, you know, West Medford kids, East Medford kids were never allowed to get together and meet because our parents wouldn't let us ride bikes through downtown Medford because of the traffic on Main Street. Okay, I guess that was his experience. So Main Street is stopping integration again, once again. It's worth going back in listening to, but there actually was a lot of good conversation
Starting point is 00:03:20 about this. And the people, I think they were really in the forefront of making the case, we're Counselors Kevin Keating, Kevin Keating and Councillor Quinn, they were going back to the surveys indicating that most of the voters, most of the people taking part in the survey, wanted it put back to the way it was. And it's kind of like, who are we? Who are we to say no? And you know how it was like joking yesterday that they love surveys until we end up coming up with the wrong answer?
Starting point is 00:03:53 Well, the survey came up with the wrong answer. Mayor Zerosinski, I can't exactly say he was thrilled with this plan, by the end of the breaking the vote. And here's what he had to say, a few words at the end of it. This version of the bike lane would be, to me, make the most sense. But then we have the big problem of what people in the community have been saying. Now, I have no doubt in my mind that multiple people will come back and say, if you, Referred back to the original, maybe you're kind of turning your back on what's a more reasonable, pragmatic,
Starting point is 00:04:35 forward-looking community. The issue that really comes down to me is maybe we've lost a little bit of confidence in the people by kind of getting a little too aggressive to start with. I would normally not want to go this direction, but I think that's a little bit of the people, think the fact that we can't decide on this means maybe that this is a time to just go back and make things simpler. And so for that, I will vote to revert back to the original configuration. And that is how it ended. And there we go. This does mean that the city is going to have to pay back this grant. I think it was what they were talking about a million dollars. So they're going to
Starting point is 00:05:18 have to do a little finagling in the budget to do this. I'm okay with that. I really am. I also have to say that had the council voted with the, you know, the two-lane buffered bike lane, having one bike lane there. It would not have been the worst compromise, but it's amazing how much two-stepping was being done by city staff and everyone going in there. Oh, well, we'd have to pay this back. We'd have to pay this back. It's always about the money. Well, we got into this situation because the past city council unwisely took the grant money. And once again, you know, it's always about going down the gang green, Kittleson and Associates kind of traffic planning and traffic calming and making downtown Medford into Holland, like Amsterdam. We're supposed to be like Amsterdam.
Starting point is 00:06:05 We're going to be, or like in Paris, we're all going around with our little bicycles going, Bonjour, Bonjour, and pass the boulangerie, you know. That's not the way we live in Medford. And so, you know, I think it was interesting. I think that Kevin Stein brought up something, and he did this several times in which, listen, this will be the only street in downtown Medford that doesn't look like all the other ones. So in other words, they let the cat out of the bag or admitted that practically every other gangrene monstrosity has been already placed in downtown Medford. And boy, they just couldn't leave Main Street alone, right? You can't have Main Street.
Starting point is 00:06:45 You can't have Main Street actually easy to travel on, right? Oh, but anyway, common sense, I think, was born out in the end. And so maybe the city council will be more careful than the future about just not being like the, you know, the sea lion going for the salmon. Someone's holding the salmon up. Oh, got to go, you know, got to go jump up and get it. Grant stream funding. I so wish that the attack scheme in the United States of America were inverted from one of the is right now. As it is, we're sending all this money to the state government, all this money to
Starting point is 00:07:25 the federal government, and then you hope that crumbs end up coming back in the grant stream funding. And then you end up having silly decisions being made by city councils and county commissioners jumping through the hoops of the agenda-based processes. I would much rather have actually high local taxes, medium state taxes, and infinitesimal federal government taxes. Okay, here's the tax with the military and border control and that's about it. You know, that would be kind of where it is. Okay. And maybe we'll keep the national parks open.
Starting point is 00:08:03 That's why people get so cynical, though, about local government. They realize, or they're wondering why they're doing all of these silly things, but it's all about the money. It's always about the grant stream money. We don't tax ourselves locally. We tax ourselves, you know, county, state, and mostly state and federal. That's how we do this. Yes, I know you have high property taxes.
Starting point is 00:08:25 That's for the schools. But even then the money goes to the state, and then they delve it back to you. They dole it back as you be good little boys and girls and jump through the gangrene and or progressive education stew. You got to do the dance. It needs to be flipped on its head as far as I'm concerned. 20 minutes after 6-770-633.
Starting point is 00:08:47 What's on your mind? It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Have at it. It is over. Eagles Gas Depot is now. Hi, I'm Deb with Father and Son D. I'm on KMED. Glad you are here, 770563. Taking your calls on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. A lot of people want to talk.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Hello, Dave. You don't live in Medford. You live in Eagle Point now, but you wanted to comment on what the way downtowns have been going here lately. Given the... Look at the major downtowns in our Ashland-Metford Grants. I know Ashland. You know, they have this theater and, you know, the university. But they have a thriving downtown.
Starting point is 00:09:23 They have for a long time. Grants Pass has a thriving downtown. And I think it's fair to say that Medford's downtown over the years has struggled at least a little bit for a bunch of different reasons. But I don't see how this helps. Okay. You drive through downtown and any casual observer who lives here or from out of town is going to, you know, look at this and go, you know, why are we parking cars in the middle of the street? And why do we have, you know, this gigantic bike lane that nobody ever uses? And I just, like you said, it has to be the money.
Starting point is 00:09:57 The only reason anybody would do anything that ridiculously dumb is because they're getting money to do it. Okay, I know a lot of people who work downtown who have businesses in downtown members. They all hate it. Nobody asks them. Okay. And I just, like I said, I think the people, you know, the people in charge in Medford should be trying to enhance the, experience for people to come downtown. Well, you know, Dave, it's funny you bring this up because the way that enhancing the
Starting point is 00:10:25 experience has been to make it very difficult and punitive to drive through the city. Now, the whole idea is to slow people down. The idea is that if you are at a crawl and can get through anything that you'll stop, and that you'll stop and actually partake of this. And yet, you're right. This is what the enhancement is all about. bike lanes, ballards, and slow, slow, slow, you know, is what they're trying to do. There's another downtown to look at.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I mean, look at Bend, okay? Bend is, their downtown is amazing. A little bit bigger than Medford now, population-wise, but they've done all the right thing. And Ben's downtown is thriving, okay, because they made good decisions and they didn't make really dumb decisions, you know, like Medford is. Okay, well, now Medford's going to, now Medford's reversing this one dumb decision. Okay, so they're reversing if they're going to go back to what it was. It'll be a little easier travel, you know, going through there now.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But what do you think that Ben did differently that Medford could ape that you think that Medford could copy? Drive through downtown bend, there's parking on wall and bonds, the two main streets and Ben. Okay, there's no, you know, you don't have to pay to park. okay there's no parking meters and there's don't be wrong I've been in Ben plenty of times especially during you know the summer season when it's really busy over there and it can be tough to park they just have parking spaces on the street and there's no parking meters okay and it's just I mean I just
Starting point is 00:12:09 I was really would like to know how much money Medford actually makes from their parking meters and then have somebody doing an analysis well you know yeah well all the meters are gone well all the actual meters are gone now but now it's a parking app. You have to have an app or, you know, call and make a call to make your donation. But, but yeah, yeah, point well taken. Dan, I appreciate the call. Thanks for that.
Starting point is 00:12:33 770KBD. Dawn Sear, Don, Don, you wanted to weigh in this morning. Go ahead. It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Thank you. And, you know, I hate to pry. But aren't you a little relieved you're involved only in the periphery of civil government? Well, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:50 listening to some of the public comments that are there, you know, I really do think that Medford City Councilors and Mayors should be paid when I listen to some of what goes on in those meetings. But please continue, okay? Yeah, and another thing on the Americans with Disabilities Act cost billions of dollars in infrastructure to benefit a few, ignoring the fact that we are all handicapped at some level. if you're not handicapped yet you will become a head.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's nature's way of culling out the those unable to reproduce hurt or kinetysis. So regardless of ADA, I understand that. Some conspiracies are older, they're broader, they're more universal. And if I were to address a conspiracy that predates written language and yet individuals' minds in the, In the book of Genesis, we read the Almighty called at the time Elohim talks to his created children, giving them very few instructions, very few really, except don't eat from the fruit of that tree over it. Don't do it. In that day, you will.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Yes. Okay. Well, where are you going on this one? You think it is rapid to a good point. It should be on a serpent, be Giles Eve. So yesterday, you alluded on two occasions to the essence within a person. A soul, yes. I use the term soul, yes.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Soul, yeah. You see, that permeates society to this very day. People are afraid they're going to die, and they know that there's this essence, because the human consciousness is so superior to an amoeba, or even a slug or a dog, for example, that, but the lie is impermeable. Yeah, well, if you certainly go to a lot of the sciences, science these days, they act as if you do die, and we're nothing more than biochemical reactions, and I do not agree with that whatsoever.
Starting point is 00:15:22 Hey, I'm burning daylight, though, but burn the daylight, get to the point quickly, okay? The point is, you can't show me a location for your consciousness, jewels with no brain, just a brainstem, and they can have consciousness. They learn to talk a number of things. So, you know, that is a fair. I'm going to roll that one around because sometimes when I look at the news, sometimes when I look at the news cycle, I do indeed believe there are some soulless individuals. But thank you for the call, Don.
Starting point is 00:16:01 All right. Francid, you're going to wrap this segment up here. I got John O'Connor who's going to talk with me about some Trumpy things in a moment. But what are you thinking about? Oh, boy. Yeah, what are you thinking about the, all this whole push to, redevelop all of our downtowns into that perfect bicycling utopia or whatever, but give me your take.
Starting point is 00:16:24 All right. So rather than talk about the people that vote to do these things, I want to talk about the people that come up with these ideas and make these designs. Okay. And they remind me a little bit of the real high-end fashion designers, you know, when they have these fashion shows and these women and men walk out onto the catwalk wearing like, you know, a nine-inch platform. Oh, in other words, all those fashion designers that make women look ugly, right?
Starting point is 00:16:53 Well, they come up with stuff that is, you know, it's kind of artistic, but it's totally impractal. It's not really clothing. It's like a painting. It's some kind of art that's really bizarre and useless, you know. And that's what some of the people that are coming up with these ideas remind me of. They just want, oh, you know, the old interchange, you know, where the freeways you get on, and off and this side and that side and blah, blah, blah. That's not good enough. They have to
Starting point is 00:17:19 twist it up and make it into a pretzel so that people get confused and like within the first week, the Phoenix one, somebody was killed because it was too confusing. And that's what they're doing to our streets and, you know, and yes, it's powered or, you know, pushed by the road diet and we want people out of their cars and stuff. But these people that are designing these things also, they just, they have no practicality in their mind. You know, they just want to read redo things that actually work and make them make things that don't. And you see, that is the takeaway. That's a great takeaway. And that's why we have to lead our city councils and stay in touch with elected officials. So make sure that decisions that are made
Starting point is 00:18:03 do things that actually work and work with the way we live, not with the way a certain kind of storied elite would like us to live. And that's it. Everything's about forcing us into this channel of the way we, well, we should be living this way, and say, no, we can make those kind of decisions ourselves, don't you think? Well, there are certain things that have worked for a really long time, and yes, there are improvements that can be made as our technology changes, but we don't have to redesign everything into something that becomes more confusing and weird because it's more artistic. You know, it's like we don't need to drive on artistic roads.
Starting point is 00:18:46 We need to drive on roads that are safe and make sense. And function. All right. Thank you very much. Appreciate that, Francine, 631, it came. And he will catch up on other things here. And then John O'Connor joins me. We got a lot going on.
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Starting point is 00:19:24 Postgatethebook.com, I highly recommend. It's a great read. John, welcome back. Good to have you on the show. That's good to be with you, Bill. John, let's talk about what happened with the Supreme Court discussion the other day. I want to kind of keep up with things Trumpy in the lawfare world. And believe me, there's so much news.
Starting point is 00:19:41 it's like a fire hose every day. So help us understand. Federal Reserve, I guess the Fed Reserve governor, Lisa Cook, the push was for President Trump wanted to fire her, right? And there's a legal controversy over whether he's able to do this. Could you help us understand what's happening and what was discussed? Yeah, she was, of course, an appointment of Biden, and she's kind of a strange cat. But yeah, so this is a big deal, and this really stretches back to Woodrow Wilson and the administrative agencies when he decided that the world should be governed by experts. He really disliked democracy than Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He comes up with all kinds of things that may or may not have been constitutional, and you have the alphabet committees and so forth
Starting point is 00:20:36 but the whole idea of an independent organization, independent of the executive, the legislature shuts up, but says essentially you, the president, only have limited powers over it, sort of flies in the face of democracy. Wait a second. Is the president, the executive, or not? What's this independent agency at here doing? Is this just sort of, you know, just an independent country of its own, sort of? Yeah, exactly. Where is the accountability on such a thing which is considered, okay, well, you can make an appointment to it, but you can't do anything to that appointment afterward? That's essentially it, right? Isn't that over arguing?
Starting point is 00:21:18 Exactly. Exactly. And in a way, it kind of, there's this been conflict in American tradition where you say on the one hand, you think it's not good to have the spoiled system where you fire everybody and get your political. cronies in. On the other hand, on the other hand, you need to have a government that is elected by the people, for the people, and they express their will. So certainly as to major appointments, it's one thing to protect an employee that's, you know, really truly a functionary, is sitting at a desk, does not have political power over anything. That person could be protected by civil service. Okay, we understand that and only fired for cause. But once you get to the top ranks of these agencies, there's no reason that they can't be accountable, that the president cannot run an agency the way he wants. And that's really what it comes down to with Lisa Cook. She's
Starting point is 00:22:23 personally is a very, you know, unqualified person. Let's put it that way. I think her background is really strange. And so, but this is a very important, and I think he was lucky. I mean, Trump sometimes is better for Trump to be lucky than good. And this is one in which he, luckily, he has somebody that's just not a shining female knight in armor. So, so in other words, he went after the Biden-D-E-I hire. Is that what happened? Is that exactly what it is? Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, no. All right. And so this is the question. How did the Supreme Court, how did the arguments go on Wednesday with this? Well, they went very well for Trump. I mean, that's basically, oh, yeah, very, very well. Because you really have at least five people. You know, Amy Coney-Barritt is always a, you know, you don't know where she's going to come from. But basically they all are philosophically. The six of them. are philosophically aligned.
Starting point is 00:23:33 And it's really kind of refreshing to see some people that are very, they're very fair people. I mean, they're not really, you know, people love to characterize them as being Trumpies. And, you know, just right down the line, we're going to do what Trump wants. And the New York Times talks about how Trump's judges are doing what he wants. No, that's not really it. There may be some. I recall him having smacked him several times over the last few months.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Is it just me? No, you're absolutely right. You're absolutely right. I mean, these are independent. It's just the way the Supreme Court should be. They're independent. They're philosophically aligned with the person who picked them, but they also are philosophically aligned with the traditions of this country. I mean, we have went so far to the left.
Starting point is 00:24:25 Do we have people that hate the country and don't like the Constitution? I mean, if you look, it's one thing you can dislike the Constitution and the regular patterns of government all you want. You just shouldn't tell the Supreme Court. And, you know, but, you know, when we elect a president like Barack Obama and think that's cool, you know, where he spent his time as a community organizer just trying to buck the system and tell people the system isn't fair and we have to change the system, whatever that means. now you've got a different kind of a politician out there, and there are a lot of people that think that's great. That's what you want. But at least these folks, at least six of them, believe in the system. That's all.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Believe in checks and balances and fairness. We're republic, and when Ben Franklin said, we have a republic if we can keep it, when a woman asked them what kind of government we would have, We have a republic if we can keep it. Well, it's not easy to keep that republic because it's very easy for the forces of government to gain power for themselves in some way or other. And you're not going to have a republic where people have the right to vote and change their leaders and so forth. There's a real tension in the government right now and has been for quite some time, John O'Connor. And I think part of this is because we still have two teams essentially, well, let me rephrase this. Honestly, we have been enduring over the last 30 to 40 years, a soft communist or socialist Marxist revolution within the organs of government, within the administrative state, the lifers, which is why there's been such protest, I think, against President Trump.
Starting point is 00:26:17 these were individuals of the leftist and or globalist bent that kind of looked at the government as their play toy in my opinion or their stuff and we don't care who gets elected. This is what we're going to do. And Trump really stretches and seems to overreach a lot in what he's trying to do right now. And I'm wondering if you would agree that it's kind of taken a strong man really stretching it to try to bust this up? Is that the only way it could happen? How do you think about this in the legal sense?
Starting point is 00:26:54 Absolutely. Well, first of all, that's his power. People don't understand it. When the New York Times rails against Trump, they don't understand that the country is composed to people with common sense, thinking in common sense ways, and they're being told to the last 34 years. Actually, it's really about the 50 years since Watergate.
Starting point is 00:27:14 They've been told how to think. and told how to react to public events, and it's always been sort of a lefty orientation. And it really started with Vietnam. I mean, it's my generation, our generation bill, that started around Vietnam. And Vietnam was the sort of the rallying cry that then made it okay to say the government's terrible, it's stupid, it's, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah. And that was really, and that was really a lot what Watergate was about, the people who love to see Nixon be toppled, were those revolutionaries. We're the people who didn't like regular conservative government.
Starting point is 00:27:56 And Nixon wasn't that conservative. No. But ever since then, those are the forces that control the media and all the big institutions. And frankly, when Trump comes along, he's clearly a guy that's going to break things. he comes out and talks bluntly and doesn't get silenced by the media and doesn't get silenced by regular, polite opinion from Manhattan parlors. And people love that. People don't understand. The New York Times doesn't understand that a lot of the sentiment was against the New York Times that elected Trump. And yet every time they yell and scream, there are a lot of people
Starting point is 00:28:35 that say, well, this is precisely why I like Trump. Now, I agree with you, Bill. He's going way to I mean, it's getting dizzy. He does so much stuff every day, but generally he's pushing things in the right direction. He doesn't always do things politically wise. I think, for instance, I wish his messaging on this whole immigration thing would be better. And his politics, his political support went up tremendously when he brought those Trend Day Aragua guys out and did all that. if he really concentrated on, let's get the worst first out and let people know that that's what ICE cared about, and that ICE, you know, at least for the time being, is going to lay off the people that have been working in the fields and restaurants for 15 years and paying their taxes. That probably – so I think the Republicans could get wiped out here. That's the problem. He may be going so far in some directions that his political base is going to – a road a bit. I know that when it comes to the politics, that's where a lot of concern has been coming and what happens in the midterms. It's the Big Mac.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Midterms are coming, you know? We'll just got to use that acronym moving forward. I guess the point being here, Trump seems to be acting. It's just my opinion, and I'm not with a man, so I don't really know. But he seems to be a man on a mission to the point where he realizes, and maybe I'm wrong about this, I think he's concerned that, I think the reason he's going to and mentioning tariff about every other word right now when he's trying to muscle his way in with a green with a greenland deal or anything else i have a feeling he's concerned that the supreme court's going to take that one away he's not going to have that bat to hit anybody with pretty soon what do you think about that well you're absolutely right i i i think you know when he raises tariffs and tariffs and tariffs and raised these issues. First of all, that's not politically good. Look, like Kimberly Strauss said in the Wall Street Journal the other day,
Starting point is 00:30:40 look, he's already won in Greenland. We can do anything we want there. They've given us carte blanche. Why don't we just beef up our military there if that's what Trump wants? You know, and then we can always cut deals with people like good old, you know, commercial enterprises. You can go in there and make deals for mineral rights. That's what we should be doing. And as long as we have some military there, that's where we should go. But yeah, I think this tariff weapon is going to be taken away from them. I don't think there's any doubt about it, and I think it's going to be sort of a mess. I think that's one of the reasons the Supreme Court hasn't come out with a decision. I know we've been saying for a couple of weeks that the decision was due. I was wondering why it's been delayed.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And what do you think? It's the remedy. It's the remedy. I think he's gone too far in the tariffs. But then what do you do if all... All these tariffs have been paid. You've got a few hundred billion dollars sitting around. And if the tariffs are or were illegal, how do you pay them back?
Starting point is 00:31:42 How do you pay them back? And do you have to pay them back? I'll bet you that they're going to try to craft a way in which they say, okay, moving forward, we don't do this. What do you think? Well, that's what they should do. And actually, they may say that they don't even have jurisdiction right now to craft a remedy. And they won't, so they won't craft one. But think about it, who pays the tariff when you get a set of knives from Japan or some just
Starting point is 00:32:10 making that up? I don't know why I say that, but let's say they have great knives or Germany might be better. And you buy this, who, who, who, who, who, to whom do you pay back the tariff? Is it the person who makes the knives in Germany? Is it the person who sells them here? You bought them at a store here? Or is it the person who paid the tariff, meaning the customer who bought it? I don't know. What do you pay? Well, that's a good point. Should we all be giving money back? Because we paid tariffs. So that's really a difficult one, and it would break the back of the government. I'm going to probably cost more money to pay it back than we pay back. So hopefully, and I think hopefully there are wise heads there that realize there's also a limitation to judicial power that you shouldn't fashion remedies that are impossible to carry out. So this is going to be one of the biggest.
Starting point is 00:33:01 judicial quandaries we faced. He's going to lose on the tariffs pretty clearly, and they're going to kind of give him the roadmap as to what he can do and not do and how to use them. But for right now, I think the world's going to be thrown into a little turmoil when this decision comes down, and they know it. That's why they're wrestling with it. I imagine so. I also figured, though, this is why he's using the tariffs so often right now in recent negotiations to get frameworks, get negotiations. I think he himself realizes it's on borrowed time, probably. And so, well, you know, he's charging him right now, even if they might have to, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:39 roll it back in a month or two. Who knows? Well, that's right. That's right. He loves, he's real big as a dealmaker. He's love, he loves to look at how the other side, where they're vulnerable and what to threaten. And people don't understand that Trump, like any dealmaker is a threatening.
Starting point is 00:33:55 Oh, I'm going to do this. I'm going to leave the building if you don't. you know, decrease my rent or vice versa. You know, and he is a dealmaker, number one, and so he likes to threaten and see where people are. And that's why he's backing off Greenland. Greenland, though, that deal about tariffs on Greenland just was a non-starter. He went too far. And so he has that tendency.
Starting point is 00:34:20 He went too far when he decided he was going to have whatever it is, Liberation Day with the tariffs. but you never know whether the guy's bluffing or not. Exactly, which is why he keeps people off kilter. So I've gotten to the point where I no longer get excited and going, oh, he's saying this now, it's kind of like, okay, let's wait, let me wait a day or two and see where it ends up. And I think that's, and I think a lot of people, especially in the media, still haven't quite figured out, John.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't think they have. There's still, in other words, it's like you take everything, You don't take him literally, but you just take him seriously. I guess that's the way to go about this. That's the best way to say it. And, you know, when this is good or bad, he's now surrounded by people that are really on board with him, and that's a good thing. And he doesn't have the people around that try to restrain him, which he had in the first term. Now, is it good or is it bad that you don't have people to restrain him?
Starting point is 00:35:18 I don't know. That's another question. Well, one way or another, it is certainly interesting. It's a day of interesting news every time, and I don't think we've ever had a president that has been able to generate more headlines than this guy, that is for sure. Think about it, Bill. He's been in a year. It's just only a year. Yeah. How much has happened over the last year. All right. Well, I really appreciate the take on it.
Starting point is 00:35:42 So you think the Supreme Court, though, is going to okay his ability to fire Alisa Cook and things. and in other words, say the executive is going to be allowed to run the executive branch, and none of these restrictions from Congress, correct? That's right. That's right. That's going to be pretty strong for the executive. All right. Very good.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I always appreciate the take. Postgatethebook.com read up on that. Please get a copy of it. It's well worth the read. John O'Connor, I appreciate your take as a former Fed prosecutor. You're still working? Are you still prosecuting today or just in private practice? What do you do now?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Well, I'm just in private practice, yeah. Okay. Very good. Yeah, so sure. Good to have you on the show. Thank you, John. All right. Take care, Bill.
Starting point is 00:36:22 John O'Connor from the Bay Area. 653 at KMED and 993KBXG. Waking up with the Bill Meyer show. Appreciate you here. Ready to upgrade your roof to a durable sleep. Welcome to the Bill Meyer Show on 1063 KMED. Give Bill a call at 541-770-5633. That's 720 KMED.
Starting point is 00:36:43 655. By the way, if you haven't heard, If you weren't watching last night's Medford City Council meeting, they ended up voting to end the road diet in downtown Medford. So some common sense is prevailing. I'm really glad that they did. I must say that there are good things to say about that third alternative that they were leaning toward. It wouldn't have been the worst thing. But I think that the people have been, I mean, the way I've been reading this for a long, long time is that the people were never really consulted when it came time to screw up.
Starting point is 00:37:17 downtown Medford on Main Street. They really weren't. It was always about the staff. It was always about where the staff recommendations here, what the norms are, federal suggestions and practice. And of course, you also have, you know, the Kittleson and associate type people that never like any downtown actually will be free flowing traffic. It must be slow, gluggy, and everything to push you into the gang green lifestyle. That's the way it is. That's the way. every city gets propagandized. And I was cheered when Baker City, a few weeks ago, end of last year, ended up voting against their road diet proposals,
Starting point is 00:37:59 which, of course, O'Dott and the Kittleson types come in there and go, safety, safety, you know, as if people are being routinely killed every day, you know, on bicycles and in crosswalks everywhere. And it's been nonsense. And, you know, sure, I suppose it'd be really. super safe if we are all going two miles an hour through downtown Medford. Maybe that would be the ultimate goal of the gangrene world. But ultimately, who's in charge?
Starting point is 00:38:29 Designated experts everywhere? The kiddlesome people, the ODOT people. Where are we? And I think people just kind of got fed up with this whole thing. What is this bollered nonsense in this parking halfway in the middle of the street? And we got the bicycles on both sides, the two-way bicycle street. It's only being used by the bums for the most. What is this nonsense?
Starting point is 00:38:52 And I think people just kind of threw up and revulsion over it. Yeah, I talked about it a lot. And it all came from this grant stream funding thing. This, once again, scrambling for every single little bit of cash that could plop out of some cloaca in the federal or state government. You know, our taxpayer money gets sent there and then gets doled back against us and used against us essentially. used not for what we wanted because all the Medford City Council wanted to do back in 2023 was to get the downtown repaved. They wanted to get the street, you know, on Main Street repaved.
Starting point is 00:39:29 So it was with the best of intentions. But in order to get the downtown street repaved with that grant, you had to jump through the hoops. Well, we're going to have to start being a little more selective about this because, generally speaking, the grant stream funding that comes out of this state of Oregon goes against common sense. It goes against common sense and the way we want to live. That's the reality. That's where we find ourselves right now.
Starting point is 00:39:55 But anyway, we have a minor win. Well, it's a good win. I mean, savor the win. But even then, the Medford City Council was deadlocked on this one, 4-4. And it's interesting that I can't help but notice that most of the youngsters, you would have called the youngsters, but the younger people on the Medford City Council all seem to be, how could you be going against bike lanes?
Starting point is 00:40:18 He was almost that. How can we do such a thing? I don't know. Maybe they are riding bikes everywhere, but I don't know. They did the right thing. Yes, the city will have to pay it back, but maybe this will be a lesson,
Starting point is 00:40:35 and maybe other city councils will take heed of this too. You know, at some point, quit telling us how we're supposed to live and motor through our various cities. Stop it. All the other cities, all the other city streets, though, for the most part, are on that whole thing. Now, what's going to happen is that with Main Street, what's going to happen to Main Street, it's going to be the three-lane configuration like it used to be, and the far-right traffic lane will be a shared lane with bicycles and cars. And as Kevin Keating and other had noted, or had noted in last night's city council meeting,
Starting point is 00:41:11 they're able to, well, it's a 20-mile-per-hour zone, and that's a pretty, bike safe street to start with. Now, the traffic experts, though, are saying, oh, you know, people are going to start speeding on Main Street because they'll feel more comfortable. Well, they could be. That's a law enforcement issue. Maybe we can talk about that later. 770KMED. Let me grab a call or two before the rest of the news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Bill. It's Brad. Good morning to you. Morning, Brad. How are you?
Starting point is 00:41:42 Great. Doing well. Hey, great conversation. about all the stuff that's going in front of the Supreme Court. Wonderful. But, Bill, what you've just been talking about is so important because it is a gigantic reminder of how important it is for your listeners when they're concerned about something regarding the city of Medford, just show up, come down to the counselors. You know, Bill, one of the things that you know that a lot of your listeners
Starting point is 00:42:08 don't know or don't remember is that one of the ways, aside from the grant stream funding, aside from the Kittleson Associates that are trying to stuff this down, everybody's throat all the time. All of the people that showed up for yes, yes, yes, do this back in the day were all the spandex mafia. They were all the bicycle activists. We have a council that is very reasonable. I know all eight of them, these are reasonable people. They're not ideologically dogmatic, but they can only respond to the testimony that comes before them. The way this got changed, it was people, people that you talk to, people that talk to each other,
Starting point is 00:42:45 they showed up, they kept communicating, they said, we don't want you. We need to undo this. This never would have been done in the first place if the people would have just showed up and told the city council, we don't like this. Please don't do it. The only people that showed up were the Spandex Mafia, and they were the ones that got hurt. Agreed. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:43:03 And it is, well, I have a feeling, though, what goes on here, and this is where, this is where it falls flat, you know, trying to have citizen input. on the local people. The challenge that we run into is that there's a lot of nonsense and, let's just call it what it is. A lot of boring conversation goes on at city council meetings because that's just the way it is. There's a lot of, okay, we're going to do this one. We have a consent decree here. We've got to consent this.
Starting point is 00:43:35 All right, do we go there? And most people aren't all that concerned, you know, about this stuff. So, okay, okay, fine, all right. But a lot of damage gets done. when you're not paying attention to all that boring stuff. Oh, yes. Oh, you're 100% right, Bill. Thank you for the call.
Starting point is 00:43:55 And thank you for letting me know about Kittleson and the associates. That was a good reading. KMEDE, good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. I want to address what you and Brad were just talking about and also your earlier comments about how our tax system is inverted
Starting point is 00:44:12 in that we're sending most of our money to a federal government And then you beg for it to come back in Grant Stream, right? And one of the reasons why people are so apathetic and why they don't bother to show up the vote and so forth is because of our inverted tax system. If we, the locals, had control over where our tax money goes, we would be in a much better place and motivated to fix things locally. But the way it is right now, we send most of our money, which is, in essence, power. We have an over-empowered, over-invested federal government. The 16th Amendment has basically ruined federalism, the idea that to eat. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Well, and then look at the... When you said that. Yeah. Oh, no, no, I agree. No, I agree. It ruined federalism, right? Because, you know, essentially, you know, And even at the state level, too, look at what we do with local schools.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Local schools, people want to run local schools differently. They're failing miserably. What is the controlling factor? Top down from Salem, from Governor Kotech. She's essentially the state superintendent, the way this goes. You used to control your money, your local school money on your local school board. Essentially, now it's just a pass-through. It goes up to the state and then gets redistributed and comes back to us.
Starting point is 00:45:38 So you're explaining exactly why people are so apathetic because we have no control over the local. And our tax system is absolutely against everything this country was founded upon. And if we ever going to have a country of the people, by the people, for the people, we need to abolish the 16th Amendment, the whole funny fiat money system and so forth and revamp the whole idea of taxation. Where the taxation needs to really be closer to home, and also means that you throw out the bastards that are not doing good things with your tax dollars closer to home.
Starting point is 00:46:20 That same sort of thing. That's right. We need to know where these guys park their car at night. Okay. Thanks for the call. That's a good way of putting it, Tom, all right? On KMED, KMED, H.D. H.D. Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Five minutes after seven, we'll get into Fox News and some other things coming up. State Rep Ed Deal. Now candidate Ed Deal, running for governor. We'll get his take on things on the way.

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