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Episode Date: January 24, 2026

Morning news headlines, Mail Tribune building purchased by a non-profit. Yet another building comes off the tax rolls. Should there be a limit? I think so. Luis Cornelio from MRC Free Speech - huge st...udy on just how bad news aggregators bias the story.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. What a delight to have you here on Find Your Phone Friday, the number 77056633, like Victor, the voice guy says. 770KM.m.D. email at Billmyershow.com. Some good emails of the day, especially a social media post of the day. I have to give a social media to the post of the day to one of the listeners I haven't talked to for a while, but Dwayne Bowman had some great thinking on Greenland the other day, and I'm going to share some of that.
Starting point is 00:00:39 By the way, the social media that I'm usually on is Facebook, Facebook.com slash Bill Meyer's show, where we are also doing Facebook live right now, where the radio host is attempted to be a video star too. It's just the way you've got to do it these days. All right. Oh, by the way, speaking of video, you know that we're part of Markey Broadcasting now, which ended up buying our stations a few months back. And they had already purchased KMVU Fox 26. Of course, we're all together here in the one big happy family in here.
Starting point is 00:01:11 And there's a show which is premiering. It's a second season of Extracted coming up Monday night. And I'm actually putting this in my DVR so I can see this because I like the concept of this show in which you have. all these people competing and they're out in the Canadian wilderness. And I think Canadian wilderness is probably where you wouldn't want to be this weekend, given that we have all this massive storm coming. Mr. Outdoors, by the way, we'll be telling us more about that and what it's probably going to be doing to travel.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Going to be hearing a lot about that all weekend, although it's going to be relatively pleasant here, just cold at night, you know, and that's going to start getting back into more normal winter next week from what I understand. But anyway, back to this extracted. The way it works is that you have these people competing for a bunch of money, you know, the sort of thing. They're out in the middle of the wilderness and the bear comes into your camp and you've got to figure out what you're going to do and have all these kind of struggles and challenges. And I like that kind of stuff. But what I think is really cool about it is that you have family members that are sitting in another location watching it all.
Starting point is 00:02:20 and if they think it's too dangerous or you're not going to be able to handle it, they can hit the extract button and then they pull your butt out of there. I kind of like this. I did not watch the first season, but I want to watch the second one. I already programmed that in. But what I'm going to do here is that we have some extracted pullover hoodies from Fox in Fox 26 and also some extracted sleeping bags, like little mini sleeping bags. they'd be great to throw in the back of your car and keep with you in case you ever had,
Starting point is 00:02:51 well, you know, had some trouble, really compact. And what we're going to do is give those away after Mr. Outdoors Show at 710. So we're going to have some fun on that. I'm looking forward to it. Okay. All right. Let's go over some of the headlines here this morning. Of course, the winter storm.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That's the big one nationally. Vice President J.D. Vance. He's going to be speaking at today's March for Life in Washington, D.C., and President Trump, of course, has ending taxpayer funding of international abortion, so that ends up being a really big deal for the pro-life folks. Now, a big win for the GOP and the president because the House in Congress actually passed a set of bills to fund for the government. It's regular order. It wasn't another one of these things were a continuing resolution, and everyone's getting all into the drama.
Starting point is 00:03:48 What they did, seven Democrats voted with the Republicans and they passed the funding bill, 220 to 207. The other three spending bills passing by a 341 to 88 vote. This is back to some regular order. So that's actually good. Now, as far as the spending being rained in, no, we're still on tap here or slated to have a, let's see if I can get out my old Dr. Evil thing. we're still on slate to have a $2 trillion deficit.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Two trillion. Yes, and it's still like out of every three dollars that we spend, one is borrowed. It is perfectly sustainable. I wouldn't worry about this. Of course we could go with one of the half trillion dollars. Take the military budget from that pathetic, tiny, teeny, 1 trillion and boosted to 1.5 trillion. Nobody will notice it'll be perfectly fine.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Be perfectly fine. Okay. Yeah, my tongue is firmly implanted within my cheek. Okay. I like this story coming out of the U.S. Attorney's Office in Portlandia. You know, we're always told that we need to have illegal immigrants in this country because it's not just about cleaning your hotel rooms like they're, Who's going to clean the hotel rooms?
Starting point is 00:05:19 Like some of the Democrats have been caught saying. But we need that for crime. You need the vibrancy. That's part of what makes Portland so attractive is the criminal vibrancy. And that is, well, it was, I should say, being supplied by a Guatemalan national, unlawfully residing in the United States. She was sentenced to federal prison this week, laundering money for drug traffickers in the Portland Metro. area through her money service business La Popular. Brenda Lillie Berrera Orantes, sentenced to 41 months in federal prison, three years of probation there.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Yeah, she operated these money laundering La Popular stores in Hillsborough, Beaverton, Woodburn, O'Dell, Canby, Vancouver, Washington, illegal alien, nobody checks. You know, you're not supposed to, don't ask, don't tell. And, you know, all that matters is that you're here looking for a sanctuary and that you're here, your illegal alien vibrancy to the Oregonian community. But yes, she's going to be in the Oregon prison system here for the next few years. But anyway, just another report on the vibrancy that Democrats think that we need so, so badly here. All right, what else do we have going on? We had a story that was in the Road Valley Times.
Starting point is 00:06:46 and it got me thinking about, you know how the leftists always talk about the tax system needs to be set up so that you pay your share. Right? How many times do you hear that? Pay your fair share. Now, paying your fair share of taxes,
Starting point is 00:07:05 I think makes great sense. It really does. But then I read this story and it gets me thinking about how it gets, all these kind of nonprofit stories just kind of slide under the into the news cycle and everyone thinks, oh, isn't this wonderful? But in the Rhode Valley Times, it said the other day, Oregon Center for Creative Learning,
Starting point is 00:07:29 purchasing the Mail Tribune Building. Nice building in downtown Medford. It's been empty now for what, two or three years, I guess. And that newspaper building built back in the mid-1990s, lots of marble, lots of breasts, looked great. I was always impressed when I went inside there. said, boy, make a nice radio station in here, too. But, yeah, you know, that was almost like, that was almost the signal that the beginning
Starting point is 00:07:57 of the end of print media here in Southern Oregon, when the Mail Tribune put out that, put up that building in 1995, this was like, yep, this is the, this is peak, peak print insanity, and then it was downhill all from there. And it's very sad, but that's just the reality of what happened after that. So anyway, it has been purchased. It was on the market over on First Street for about $3.5 million. And the Oregon Center for Creative Learning has bought it. Now, they bought it at a discount.
Starting point is 00:08:28 And this is Sunny Spicer's Group, the same one. It used to be kid time discovery, you know, the museum. And, of course, the old library, the old Carnegie Library, they're part of that, runs the Children's Museum of Southern Oregon. And, of course, they're talking about, oh, this is a one. wonderful thing we're going to have our administrative offices there and we're going to have the classrooms and the growing children's museum and the preschool programs. That's all finding good.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But I'm looking at this through the lens of what about local government? What about the funding for local government and how services get paid? For a long time, I've talked about the high prevalence or prevalence, the high prevalence of what I call Mommy and Me News in which the television stations and the various media organs are all going out there. Oh, isn't this wonderful? The top headline today, whether it's Dave's Chicken or not, but it's, here's another nonprofit which has opened up and has opened up shop here in Southern Oregon, and they'll be
Starting point is 00:09:40 providing services for our community and working on Grand Stream funding from the government, which is providing services, which we all love and are helping to just do good things in the world. Right? You know, that's kind of how so much of the news cycle works here in Southern Oregon. The Mommy and Me kind of story, you know? And there's nothing wrong with the services. I understand you want to have child care, daycare, kids museum, all these sort of things. But now that the Oregon Center for Creative Learning has purchased the Mail Tribune Building,
Starting point is 00:10:18 it is yet one of many properties that will likely be taken off the property tax rolls. Say what you will. Stephen, you know, the guy that used to own the Mail Tribune, has been having to pay property taxes on that building, I would imagine, for a number of years ever since the Mail Tribune went bust, and it went down. So I'm sure he's Stephen Sashlow, yeah, yeah. So Stephen Sasslow has been paying taxes, I'd imagine, for all these years. and now, assuming that this would qualify for the, you know, the tax exempt status and the
Starting point is 00:10:54 nonprofit status and all the rest of it, here's another huge building, a pretty valuable building at that, which is taken off of the tax rolls and will no longer be paying property tax. And so I was wondering about, gosh, you know, how big of an issue is this here in Southern Oregon? And so I ended up, you know, doing a query of one of my favorite AIs, which was altered out systems. That's the one that seems to be pretty good for the research that I'm kind of looking for and not as biased and not as hallucinatory as the chat GPs of the world and things. But still, so I was wondering about just how much tax-exempt property do we have in Southern Oregon. and it even admits that the counties don't really make it easy to figure out. They don't really put that specifically.
Starting point is 00:11:48 But they estimate here that in Medford, the total assessed value of the property here in Southern Oregon in Medford in Jackson County, $27 billion in Medford, and 25 to 30%, almost one third of it, is either religious government, or nonprofit. So you have we schmows that have our houses. We have we schmows in the private sector that are carrying the tax burden. And yes, for the schools and various other things. Now, I understand why government's going to exempt itself from property taxes because, let's face it, it's the mafia boss.
Starting point is 00:12:28 The mafia boss is not going to tax itself. But the growth of nonprofits in southern Oregon, pretty impressive. So you got about up to maybe a third of the land untaxed. The nonprofit, charitable, educational, religious share they're figuring is 10 to 15%. In grants pass, a little less. They're about 20 to 25%, maybe 8 to 12% of nonprofit charitable and educational and religious. Ashland has the highest percentage of educational, nonprofit, religious on there, 15 to 20%. Of course, a big part of that is Southern Oregon University. But yeah, 35% they estimate of Ashland is
Starting point is 00:13:14 untaxed of the Ashland land, which means that the other people essentially are having to make up the difference. Now I know that we're told that this is a public good. But remember, non-profit doesn't mean non-moneymaking. Can anyone else? honestly say that the nonprofit Asante is, you know, its people are just starving and the and the directors are, you know, going out there and signing up for snap benefits, right? See what I'm getting at. You know, nonprofit. There's a difference between nonprofit and no money.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Nonprofit is definitely not a no money kind of thing. And that seems to be the business model of choice, at least from my point of view, and looking at it. And this is not picking on Sonny Spicer. Not picking on Sunny Spicer, but it is the same wash, rinse, repeat. You know, you go buy something, you're in grant stream funding, you're supplying money by the taxpayers. And then on top of that, the property that you purchase largely is taken off of the property tax rolls. And then you have cities of Metford and Ashland and Grants Pass and Eagle Point, all the Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:14:28 They're all around there hungry for money. They're hungry for money for their services. And so you end up looking at, well, this same kind of challenge that we had with the city of Medford, which a few years ago ends up getting that half million dollar or so grant from ODOT in the state, the feds, that required them to put in the bike lanes and do that monstrosity to Main Street, which they voted the other day to get rid of. You know, we were talking about that yesterday. But I can't help but think that there is a real connection.
Starting point is 00:15:05 But the growth of the nonprofit corporation in the state of Oregon and the taking of properties that were paying property taxes before when they were in private business hands, and then it goes into the nonprofit world. It is largely untaxed. Now, there are some rules you have to make sure and use it exclusively for it. You know, you can't do this. But how many nonprofits have you heard about that have multiple buildings all throughout towns and in the area in the regions?
Starting point is 00:15:38 You'll have your main building for the administration. Then you'll have the nonprofit coffee shack, which ends up then competing with the for-profit coffee shack of like a Dutch bros or a human being or a malello, something like that. This is the problem that I've had. So many nonprofits are now setting up essentially competing with for-profit businesses. The for-profit businesses have to pay the corporate activity taxes if they get big enough. They have to pay all the property taxes. There's no break for them. See what I'm getting at?
Starting point is 00:16:14 And I would propose. Now, here it is, I'm explaining the problem as I see it with nonprofit industries here. This is how I would solve it. And maybe we could talk about this over the next few weeks, but I would say that if you're a nonprofit organization, you get one building. You get one building per city or per political jurisdiction to be able to claim for your nonprofit tax exempt. So if you have a church, you get to claim the church. That's your nonprofit. but you don't get to claim the nonprofit coffee barn, the nonprofit car washing facility,
Starting point is 00:16:58 the nonprofit. You see what I'm getting at, everything which is competing with the private sector? To really have a fair taxing system, we need more people pulling the wagon. So this way our city councils and our county commissioners are not sitting around there and looking to get ourselves entangled with grant stream funding and other schemes to make up for property tax money that isn't there when you have 25 to 30 percent of your land on taxed. And I would also add that government would be wise to sell off as many surplus properties as possible, just my opinion this morning. But I would say, you know, in the future, if in my benevolent dictator,
Starting point is 00:17:39 there would be one business, one building that a nonprofit could claim, and that's it. You can't set up this entire network of whether it's, you know, museums and coffee things, and retail stores and all the rest of it. Because as we well know, local government is quite, you know, honestly, sucking wind for revenue and is always having to come up with some sort of scheme to be able to pay the bills and pave the streets
Starting point is 00:18:11 and keep the infrastructure going. It's just my opinion. And I think part of that would be, let's stop putting so much stuff into the tax-exempt category. What do you think? This is the Bill of Myers Show. And you're on KMED. And here's, well, someone who's paying property taxes.
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Starting point is 00:21:22 They also install laminated architectural shingles. That's what the country needs. Everything is on sale in store and online on January 24th. It's the Bill Meyer Show on KMED, Southern Oregon's Place to Talk. 636 and joining me from MRC Free Speech America. He's the assistant editor, Luis Pernelio. Lewis. Thank you for having me, Bill.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Great to have you on here. Hey, appreciate you coming on here, Lewis. And one of the talk with you about percentage of negative news about the Trump administration. And the reason I bring this up is that the New York Times was making a big deal yesterday about how highly disliked President Trump was in their latest Times-Cy and a poll. And I can't help but think that maybe all of the cartel media and the way the news tends to get coverageed and massage. might have some role to play. Would that be a fair suspicion here, the way it's going? Well, you're 100% right. I mean, President Trump has been attacking the New York Times for this, you know, scathing poll.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And to be honest, you know, major hat-take, I'm not really blaming the New York Times here. You know, I'm blaming the big tech news aggregators, what we call the Big Four, which, you know, have control over information. And what the MRC discovered is that this major tech platform, which has, are curating the news and, you know, some of these apps, you know, come pre-installing iPhones, Apple News come in iPhones, Google News comes in every single Google phone. We know that some people use Yahoo News, MSN News. Every time you logging on your hotmail, your Outlook email, you're automatically directed to this, you know, homepage of curated news.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, I have a Yahoo, or I mean a Yahoo mail, and I ignore their, Yahoo News for the most part because I know you're right this is the way it goes it is all curated and you actually have have an actual app or a system now in which you run the news coverage of all of these apps through your system and you come up with a a bias score I guess of some sort could you explain how that works it's quite interesting what you find out you are you are right so in the month of December here's what the MRC discovered on Google News 70% of the top 20 stories promoted for the entire month of December came from leftist news sources. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Conservative news sources, only 1.3% on top coverage on Google News. Now, this resulted in a ratio of 52 leftist stories for every one conservative story. And we know why the legacy media do. I mean, we know that, you know, the most promoted outlets on Google News for the month of December were the New York Times, CNN, the Washington Post, NPR, the formerly government-funded NPR, the Guardian, NBC News, and ABC News. Now, these are the same outlets that for years promoted this conspiracy claim that President Trump was a Russian agent. Yeah, and don't forget that. Don't forget the urinating on. the hotel bed and the prostitutes and all that other kind of stuff. They all promoted that stuff, didn't they?
Starting point is 00:24:49 All of them. You're right. And then, you know, all this are being celebrated and rewarded by Google News, which is a major driver of information. We know that millions of Americans, unfortunately, you know, get their news from this leftist, bias, tech company. And that's very unfortunate. Yeah, we know that the 1.3% of top conservative stories came from, you know, five stories came from Fox News.
Starting point is 00:25:20 One came from the New York Times, from the New York Post, and one came from the Washington Times. Now, here's one. And that was it out of all those hundreds of stories that were promoted? That is correct. Okay. That is correct. So we reviewed a total of 600 stories. We couldn't get the data for December the 2nd.
Starting point is 00:25:39 but a single day would not have affected, you know, the analysis here. You know, 367 came from leftist sources. 297 came from lean left sources. We use a media bias chart called AllSides. You know, we have the MRC. We do not do subjective analysis of which companies, which outlets were leftists, We're relying on all size. So if anyone has an issue with this study that we just published, they can go and talk
Starting point is 00:26:15 to all sides in their media bias analysis because we're just taking the shorts and we're just analyzing which outlets are being promoted. And here's how we got the result. Now, there are emerging implications here. You know, this is not a one-off scenario. You know, Google News has been doing this for several months now. And you're saying, Lewis, that this is actually systemic in the entire. news ecosystem. That's the issue here, right? You are right. This is not just isolated to Google News.
Starting point is 00:26:46 You know, for the month of December, you know, Apple News promoted just one right-leaning story for the entire month of December. That is out of hundreds of stories. Now, in beginning in January, Apple News has continued its censorship of conservative news sources. For the first 15th, days of January, not a single conservative or brightly-leaning story was promoted by Apple News in its top 20. Now, this applies to all of the aggregators, Yahoo News, MSN, Google News, as I just explained, and now Apple News. This is a major bomb shell. And here's, that's why I'm not surprised when there's a poll that comes out where Americans feel like that President Trump's policies are not being helpful because they're reading the news from this leftist bias,
Starting point is 00:27:46 from this leftist tilt. That's why I feel like people are being brainwashed into believing that, well, you know, the New York Times says that this policy is bad, so maybe that's why, you know, I'm not doing well financially. And we're blaming the leftist, you know, media cartel. Lewis Cornelio is the assistant editor for MRC Free Speech America, and their team has what they call the MRC digital news tracker, and they are documenting this. Are there any mainstream aggregators that have a more balanced approach that you're aware of? I'm trying to look at it because I had a listener who wrote me the other day saying, Bill, which mainstream media news sources do you go to?
Starting point is 00:28:31 And I kind of write back because I don't go to many of them, really. I try to go to alternatives. I'll kind of see where they're coming from, but then I'll go to others. But are there any good aggregators that are actually relatively fair that you're aware of? The reality is that so far that MRC has not discovered a single fair aggregator. You know, MSN and Yahoo News, they have what we believe appears to be a contract with Fox News and the New York Post. And that's why we see more Fox News stories on those aggregators.
Starting point is 00:29:08 But even then, it's a handful of them, when contrasted with everything else. And in previous stories, what we discovered is that, you know, even though MSN might be promoting Fox News, it's not promoting the Fox News politics stories. You know, it's promoting the Powerball ticket sold in Kentucky. It's promoting this very harmless, you know, interesting.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Or the latest, or the latest celebrity news about Sidney-Sweeney, you know, written by a 12-year-old over at Fox Digital, right? That kind of thing. That's what we have seen. That's what we've seen the aggregators are selecting. They're not selecting the, you know, House Oversight Committee, launching an investigation into Minnesota fraud. We're not seeing stories about the Treasury Department,
Starting point is 00:29:56 launching a federal investigation into fraud in Minnesota. We're not seeing any of those there. Boy, and I start to wonder why is my sister, my sister who is an extremely liberal, progressive woman, just kind of to the point of craziness. I wonder why she is the way she is. Maybe I should take a look at her phone apps. I don't know. But, yeah, in all seriousness, though, how do you think that is there any way to steer this mediaship of state? because we have a media system which doesn't even pretend.
Starting point is 00:30:32 It doesn't even pretend not even going through the motions of trying to be a fair arbiter of what is going on in our country, what is going on with our government, what is going on with our people and policies. Yeah, so we know that when President Trump was elected in the last year, we know that a handful of this big tech companies came forward to the White House and they raised their white flags, and they said, we're sorry for censoring you, Mr. President. You know, we're going to do better. We're not going to censor conservative news sources anymore.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah, but aren't these the same high-tech people that are still censoring the news sources through the apps? You're absolutely right. You know, the censorship has changed, but the censorship still happening. So we are to MRC. We're going to continue to call out this big tech argumenters, big four digital gatekeepers. That's what we call them, because they're gatekeeping information from the American people. And we're going to continue to call them out until they decide, until they get sick and tired of reporting, and they reach out to rightly new sources and just ask them, hey, do you want to answer a contract with us
Starting point is 00:31:44 so that we can provide unbiased? And we're not saying that the aggregators should only publish conservative news sources. I think it's only fair. I mean, Americans are pretty smart, and they should be able to get, you know, both sides of the story. And that's not what's happening right now. So it's not like the MRC is asking Google News, hey, we want you to link to Nick Fuente's blog or podcast, right? It's not about that, right? You're right. We're talking about reputable, you know, I know the more mainstream, but reputable, well-known conservative news outlets. We know we have, you know, news backs.
Starting point is 00:32:26 We have in the National Review, the Washington Times. We have a lot of conservative news sources out there that these aggregators can reach out to and enter contracts. So that was the Americans can make up their mind about, you know, X-DU. You know, Lewis, I wonder if part of what is going on here is that many of the right-wing news sources who have been the platformed, or censored or held back, have ended up migrating to the substack platform. And I don't know. Do any of the news apps and the news aggregators ever really go into the substack world? Or is that something that you would have to negotiate for every individual journalists that's on the platform?
Starting point is 00:33:15 It really depends. So we know that Google News relies on what's called SEO, which is I think it's called search engine. optimization. So it depends on, you know, how a website is assigned that the Google algorithm determines whether to highlight our article or not. It's a little different on Apple News because Apple News needs to enter contracts with, you know, the substack and independent writers. And Apple News has the option to do that. I mean, there is a news outlet that is called, I think it's called the 19th. And it's a lefty. uh... news platform and they sort of rely on a substack like platform so there is no excuse
Starting point is 00:34:02 that apple news is not reaching out to conservative writers who are relying on substack for reporting because they're they're using the 19th um to promote stories all right so it is an intentional avoidance of the omission of of this entirely this is this is something which is intentional okay you are right this is systematic There's no question about this. All right. I'm hoping we can continue to find some way to get these folks that are in the mainstream cartel media informed. Because the challenge, though, is that in spite of conservative media's inroads, it's not a majority of the United States, is it?
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's not a majority of the media influence. It's still the big cartels, isn't it? You're right. And that's, you know, I think it is my opinion that the partisanship and the divide in this country is largely driven by this big tech aggregators, these big tech companies who continue to drive and a partisan narrative on these aggregators. Like, take a look at, for example, at the study that I published on January the 14th. Only four stories out of 840 stories promoted on Google News were about the Minnesota fraud scandal. Only four stories. As big, as massive, as corrupt as that story detailed what's going on in Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:35:33 Four out of 800? You are right. You will think, I mean, only imagine had the Minnesota governor been a Republican, that number will have been probably 700 out of 800 stories. We're about the Minnesota fraud scandal. And we know that this was perhaps the biggest story of 2024, of 2025, in addition to President Trump's first year in office. This was the biggest scandal of that year. But Google News couldn't care any less. Now, when we first launched this investigation and we decided, let's review what Google News has been promoting since,
Starting point is 00:36:15 The New York Times finally acknowledged that the fraud scandal was perpetrated largely by Somali immigrants. We discovered that the New York Times, that Google News, ignored perhaps the most damning developments of the scandal. You know, like I mentioned, on December 28th, the DOJ announced its 78th defendant in the fitting our future nonprofit scandal, which was a non-for-profit in Minnesota that was working with so-called small businesses in the state to submit invoices to the Minnesota government to get reimbursed for meals provided to people we need during the pandemic. Now, the DOJ has said that a lot of those meals were actually fabricated. There were not real meals. And that fit in our future was solely exploiting the program to get money back from the government.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, essentially a big money laundering operation. It's all it was. You're right. The following day, November 29, the New York Times, like I mentioned, finally acknowledged, oh, wow, you know, yeah, the Minnesota government turned a blind eye to the scandal. Yes, we are a couple of months, if not years, late. But here's the story, confirming what, conservative news healths have been reporting for many months at this point. Not a single story about that on Google News.
Starting point is 00:37:44 December 1st, I'm not sure if you saw that on social media, there was an audio that was released on social media, showing the Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, flirting with people who were late and indicted by the DOJ in the scandal, flirting with the idea that he was going to make sure that they got their money from the Minnesota government, As long as they supported his campaign. This is what critics were saying about what the audio show.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Oh, yeah. Well, that's not corrupt or anything, Lewis. It's not. No. There was not a single story about that on Google News on December 1st nor December 2nd. December 3rd, you will think that Google News will be interested into the House Oversight Committee, launching an formal investigation into the fraud scandal. Google News could not care any less about that.
Starting point is 00:38:37 They did not cover that development. Now, another developer was that they ignored was the Trump administration and its Treasury Department launched an investigation into the financial aspects of the fraud scandal. Now, this was the first time that the Trump administration confirmed that it was investigating, in addition to its DOJ prosecutions, that it was investigating the financial aspects of the fraud scandal. That was on December 2nd, the 12th. December 12th, December 13th, not a single story about that development on Google News. I'm pretty sure you saw this on December 26th. There was a viral video of independent journalist Nick Shirley sounding the alarm about child care centers. Yeah, he's the one that broke that.
Starting point is 00:39:26 The cartel didn't do it. No. December 26th, Google News could not care about this major viral video. There were not single stories about that on the Lungonius. So this is systematic. There's no question about this. It is concerning, but we at the MRC. We're going to continue to call them out.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'm wondering here, Lewis, if over time here, President Trump has been getting awfully chummy-chummy and cutting deals and working with a high-tech world because of the artificial intelligence agenda, which is moving forward. I don't know. If I were him, I would be making part of the deal like, hey, start just reporting all the news, not just part of the news. Would that be a fair
Starting point is 00:40:11 way of leveraging government power? He seems to be pretty good at using leverage at times. It could be. I mean, we're certainly calling on President Trump to take attention to this. And, you know, we know that when he first got inarated and some of these big tech companies came to the White House and they, you know, they gave money to the inauguration. They gave money to, you know, this beautiful ballroom that President Trump is creating building in the White House. Yeah, that's nice, but if they're still screwing everything behind the scenes, what good is that donation doing? You are right, and that's why the MRC is doing.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You know, we're going to continue to sound the alarm about how aggregators are censoring conservative news outlets. And, you know, until we see some change, we're just going to continue doing this. Yeah. And well, my point about this, though, and I'm sure you would agree with this, is that, It's not that you want the left-wing bias news to go away. You just want it all there so that people can at least have the opportunity to see, you know, multiple sides of a particular issue instead of always only one or about 99.9% only one. And I appreciate your work over at MRC Free Speech America.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Now, Louise, I'm going to link to your report here you were talking about. Luis is the assistant editor for MRC Free Speech America. And I just really thank you. Thanks for bringing it up there. I did not realize that it was that intense that you can have some of the biggest stories going on and out of 800 stories promoted and maybe five or six or seven on the top side might have anything toward even a little itty-bitty leaning to the right. And that's a problem in this country, okay? And I'm working on this.
Starting point is 00:41:57 I will give you an exclusive sneak peek of this. Another story that I'm working on, and this is going to be about the four big four digital gatekeepers, Google News, Apple News, Yahoo News, and MSN. It's going to be about immigration enforcement in Minnesota. And now, I know in Portland, Oregon, there were two people who were shot by ICE, and the aggregators did cover the story, but they failed to mention that the two people who were shot, the so-called victims, were suspected members of the. Brenda, Iowa, Venezuela, game. In other words, the news lie of omission. It's not what you said, but it's what you left out of the story, right? You are right, and I will be more than happy to come on and talk about that story once he comes out.
Starting point is 00:42:46 All right, looking forward to it because, yeah, we were all over that story, too. Luis, thanks you so much for being on the show, and we'll get all your information up there so people can check it out, too, on the MRC, Free Speech, America. Okay? Thank you so much, Bill. Thank you. A couple minutes before seven. This is KMED. KMED HD-E-H-D-EG-M-EG-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-G-BFAS.

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