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Episode Date: January 24, 2026

Americas Psychiatrist, Dr. Carole Lieberman puts former first lady Michelle Obama on her radio couch...the anti-kid statement on the podcast not a good thing. D62 quiz, open phones and more wrap up the week.

This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klauserdrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. It's a delight to have Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD, Master of Public Health, known around the country, around the world, is America's psychiatrist. And boy, what an interesting time in the world to be America's psychiatrist. How is America doing, Dr. Carroll?

Welcome back to the show. Good to have you all. That's true. There's no shortage of things to cure. Yeah. Hey, what do you think? What is your overall take on? Naturally, you would have had to observe the anti-ice activity and the misplaced, I don't

know if you want to call it priority of love or whatever it is that we seem to have in here. What is it about the liberal white female, especially, that seems to be. to be so prone to, well, looking for love in all the wrong places when it comes to, you know, governmental policy, so to speak. I don't know if that's a way of putting it or not. Well, you know, there's so much that's going into that. But the part about the fact that it's white female, you know, there's a study that showed that the people who are most likely to have Trump derangement syndrome are white college-educated

females. And so I don't think it's coincidence that these are some of the people who are leading this brigade against ICE. But it's also other things. You know, it's that people are angry in general that, you know, I saw something that top, you know, each time I find out something else that's been happening in Minnesota. It's one thing is more shocking than the other. Like, for example, there was something that there was a sit-in and a target by, you know, a group protesters because Target was allowing ICE to use their bathroom. Okay. It's called a public accommodation, I believe, isn't it?

I'm just saying. Something like that. And also, women are trying to engage with men on dating app and finding out if they are trying to engage particularly with ICE and then getting them to send or trying to get them to send naked pictures, and then they would humiliate them with that. But the thing that I read about yesterday, it's not in Minnesota, but it's kind of, it's the same, it's an anti-ice thing. And that is in Arizona.

The Attorney General of Arizona was telling people that if they feel that their life is in danger, they should use the stand-your-ground principle that there is or law that there is. in in Arizona and shoot them. Oh, okay. How do you like that? Something tells me to shoot ice. Something tells me that's not going to end well. I mean, for the people who try that too.

Absolutely. I wonder how many people. Well, I hope nobody dies because of something like that. Because, you know, just advising that, okay, I don't like what the police are going to do to me, so I better get ready and shoot the police. you know, you just say if you were to take it to your local police, you know, that sort of thing. That doesn't tend to end well. They do.

Yeah. You know, it's not just ICE anymore. I mean, they've been actually before ICE, it was the police. But everything is escalating. What they're doing to ICE, they're doing, you know, they also feel fully okay, fully indignant. Well, fully in moral certitude, I think about it. Moral certainty that they're doing the right thing. And it just strikes me, it strikes me as.

where does this delusion spring from? I don't know if you could even give me an idea or two. Or is it just a combination of things. Like what I was trying to say about Trump's arrangement syndrome, because they see ICE as an extension of Trump, you know, because he's sending ice into these places. But it's really the Constitution that says that illegals are supposed to be kicked out of the United States. And, and.

Yeah, and then immigration and naturalization. is primarily, in fact, only supposed to be done by the federal government. So, of course, it's going to be the federal government if it's going to be enforced at all, right? Yes. And then we have the mayor of Minneapolis, you know, also out there encouraging people to kill ice. And then, of course, Tim Walts, he's such a wimp. Tampon, Tim. I love that nickname. It's the best. Yes. You know, he doesn't want to be too much in the line of fire.

kind of been hiding out a bit, although, you know, he's not doing anything to protect ice. But it's just, it's just a lot of rage and very misdirected, very sad, you know. It's terrorism. It doesn't, it doesn't feel like it's going to be ending anytime soon. Would that be fair? Well, what we're saying? That's the problem, kind of like with George Floyd, you know, and it is kind of spreading. I mean, apparently people affiliated with Bondani. Oh, and of course, another thing is that there are some of these protesters are being paid by Soros and his friends. But also in New York City, there is a group being organized next to Mondami.

I mean, part of with the blessing of Mondami to have 2,000, 4,000 people come into New York City and attack ICE. And, of course, in California, with our wonderful governor and mayor of Los Angeles, you know, ice has. has been able to run amok. Well, no, it isn't the wrong way. The people against ICE have been able to run amok. You know, doctor, I wanted to, it's, I'm hoping, I don't know that if we'll look back at this time and say, remember the good old days when it was just protesting and people yelling at the cops or throwing an occasional rock or something like that?

I hope it. Right, right. We'll just see where this goes. Something tells me that President Trump, one way or the other, is most likely, this is my opinion, though, will force to play the part of daddy at some point with an infantilized culture. And there's probably just going to have to be a little butt kicking here and there. That's all I can figure. Well, right.

It's, they're like teenagers rebelling against their parents. It's kind of like the Beckham. Yeah, what is happening with that? I haven't really kept, well, I did read that Beckham, the, what's her name, Victoria, right? Victoria Beckham. Yeah. The only reason I know anything about this is because my wife follows some of the celebrity stuff. She said, oh, Victoria Beckham copyrighted the names of her children.

I said, what? She copyrighted the names of her children? Really? Yeah. We were talking about that, but what's happening with the Beckham's? I know. That is very, very bizarre. And so part of the few has to do with Brooklyn not wanting to give up the name for copyright,

which seems pretty normal to me. Yeah. But I mean, I think... That is weird. You know, it's just somebody, and it's so interesting. I mean, there's a lot of interesting. On the one hand, I don't want to read that stuff because there's so much more important stuff to read.

On the other hand, it's very, it's what do they call that, you know, like a... Hey, we have to have some mental floss every now and then, you know. Right, right. You know, things that... In between Iran, right? Yeah, exactly. In between Iran and ICE, you have to have, okay, Beckham's copywriting the names of their children.

Okay. Right. But you know that does take me to, you know, speaking of daddy, I said, you know, Trump is going to have to play daddy. Michelle Obama, former first lady, was on the call her daddy podcast, I guess, the other day, right? It's on Wednesday. And she said something pretty interesting that I was wondering if you would maybe put her on the couch about children and motherhood. And I'm not so sure it's a good thing, but go ahead. She, you know, Michelle Obama, she said something that I hope people don't listen to, you know, but she's a lot of people do listen to her.

But she said that mothers should not get off the career path that they are on when they have children, like not give up their goals when they have children. Because then the children grow up and leave them and don't appreciate what the mothers do. did. And now, if this isn't sour grapes, I don't know what is, because her children, who her two daughters, did fly the nest and are very, you know, independent. And at least one of them, Malia has given up her last name, you know, she's going into, trying to go into television and film. Oh, she's not going to be an Obama? She turned that off? Right. Really? Why? Because supposedly because she wants to make it on her own. I mean like she's not getting the break she's been getting. Oh yeah. Yeah. Nobody will know that she was the president's daughter. Okay. Right. All right.

Right. So this is very bad advice. First of all, you know, you have to, I'm not saying that like mothers should give up. I mean, some mothers, if that's what they want, they certainly, I mean, ideally, really, it used to be when mothers were mothers and baked cookies. And fathers went out to work. Children, back in the day, grew up a lot healthier than they are now. Now, you know, I don't want to be hypocritical. I didn't stop working when my daughter was born, but I was fortunate enough to have a husband who could afford paying for, and even myself, paying for a nanny. Yeah, you had good, well, you had good credible care.

Right. So what was going on. And I certainly was in my daughter's life. You know, I didn't give her over to the nanny. 100%. But anyhow, but yes, so I had career goals and I continued to pursue them, but I put my daughter's needs ahead of that, like if there was a school play or if there was whatever it was, that always came first. And so I would agree that if you have goals that you shouldn't necessarily toss them away totally, but there are ways of, and, you know, it's so ironic that Michelle Obama

would be saying this. Like what she's kind of saying is that she wishes she didn't give away, she continued on her path and didn't let her daughters divert her attention. You know, it even kind of reminds me like it's almost, or it sounds like her intimates that maybe the marriage was a mistake, maybe getting involved in being the second wheel to Barack was a mistake. Did you get some of that from it? Well, yes. It's like, I mean, as if, you know, her daughters took her off her career past, really being first lady isn't enough of an accomplishment? I mean, that's ridiculous. And she had, I'm sure, you know, lots of people taking care of the kids also.

But yes, I think it kind of reveals that perhaps her real goal was to become president herself. And in fact, she says something like that, that there aren't, you know, she doesn't know if America is ready for a woman president. Like the only people, the only women who might have a chance that that would be Hillary or Kamala. And neither one of them won, of course. But then she was trying to explain that that's because of America. America isn't ready for a woman president. But, I mean, so it seems like it's salar grapes that she wishes she had become president. And if she only didn't have those damn kids.

Oh, those dark kids, that anchor on my real goal, my real purpose in life. Right. But, you know, you're saying, though, that this reflects a cultural disorder of sorts. And Michelle Obama's take on this is probably not unusual. Well, I'm not going to be sure what we... I mean, you know, with the whole feminist movement, there was this pull to get women to have careers instead of being mother. And, of course, then we have Charlie Kirk, you know, doing the opposite. I mean, there has to be a happy medium.

Yeah. You know, you can, you can curtail to some degree. You can keep going for your goal. but you can curtail to some degree the years that are most important to be a mother and that be your primary job. But so, you know, what's really sad is that there's this new phenomenon of no contact that kids are just like the Beckham's, you know, that Brooklyn is basically saying that he wants to know he has said that he wants no contact with his family. And apparently this is a big thing in the current younger generation. You know, I, and to your point, I have a daughter who I swear is not actively saying it, but has essentially been NC. And I think looks at me as toxic, I guess, because of my political point of view.

Yes. Yeah. That's a big part of it, the politics, too, since parents are more likely going to be either neutral or poor or, Republican and schools. I mean, this is a, I blame it primarily on, well, parents, of course, have to take the primary blame, but, but for not being, for not, not raising their kids in a way where they believe that family is the most important thing. But it's also schools, you know, look at what all the schools have been doing, where they've been trying to teach kids or make kids become trans and all that, make kids do things and then have it be that they don't have it be that. have to tell the parents. Everything done to undermine the family unit.

That's the real disorder. Yes, exactly. So this is not a surprise, but it's very sad. Do you believe that we're maybe finally getting past that or to the point where it is so nonsensical that before the culture completely collapses into a pile of baby poo, of course the babies that no one's having, that there could be a turn back. the press secretary, Carolyn and Ushah, and there are some people having it.

But I think something major has to be done before we're not. In all the things that are bad, we are continuing to go in the bad direction. And, I mean, I'm trying to, I'm doing what I can do by trying to make it, you know, doing interviews and writing things and so on, to try to teach people about why this is the wrong path. Family formation is important, and it astounds me when I will look at sometimes, well, my wife likes to watch chateaus, you know, chateau videos in which people get together and they're in the French countryside and we're rebuilding homes. She says it's amazing how many, even are these Europeans?

You'll get, you know, 12 or 13, 15 people around the dinner table, and they're talking about their wonderful lives and all the rest of them, and they'll all be in their 30s and 40s. None of them have any children. None. Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. And it does make you wonder if Western civilization will be able to pull back from the childless trap in order to save ourselves, I guess, from population collapse. You know, the demographics aren't looking good, are they? No, it's really very, very bad. And, you know, the thing is, with everything that's going on in the world, we need families more than ever to provide these safe nets.

You know, I write about that in my books about terrorism, how important it is that that's the one good thing in a sense, the silver lining is that families are going to or should realize how important it is for them to form safer, stronger, their kids. And in fact, the opposite is happening. You know, even that, that family unit is so helpful. I'll even give you my own experience with my wife. It's like we always talked to one another like, you know, it's like, this is the safe place that I come home after a long, hard, sometimes grueling day, you know?

And everybody needs that. And kids need that too. In some place like that. And TikTok ain't it, baby or Instagram or any of the other ones would yes of course that's another part of the problem you know they get they get um egged on they get more like if they talk about breaking free of their family having no contact with their family all these people you know um start liking them and writing posts you know complimenting them and all that i mean it's it's bad and then the future is filled with lonely cat women and low team men yeah all right doctor i appreciate that as as always And I'm glad to know that you are still mentally healthy. I don't know how you handle it sometimes when you have to go through the news.

But where can people find out more about you, read up? I'm sorry? Where can people read up on you and get onto the podcast, everything else you do? Sure, sure. Well, first of all, they can go to my page on Twitter, which is at Dr. Carol MD, so at DR, C-A-R-O-E-M-D. and my terrorist therapist.com website or expert witness forensicsychiatrist.com. Or one of these days I'm going to be putting them all together into one website.

Dr. Carroll.com, of course, too. All right. I really appreciate the palate cleanser here. We weren't really into the, you know, into the terrorism thing today. Well, just a little bit of street terrorism, but we're getting used to that. Okay. Thanks, Dr. Carroll. Appreciate that.

Okay. You're very welcome. 829. KMED, 993 KBXG, Dr. Carol Lieberman, MD. I think this is Francine. Francine, I have a feeling you have a comment on this. I do, yes. I was hoping to be able to make it with the doctor.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry about that. I knew I was running out of time with her. Should have known. That's no problem. Well, here's what I want to say. You know, I mean, you guys touched on all kinds of things that were absolutely spot on or partially spot on or whatever.

But, dude, what drives me really crazy is all this advice people get or give or whatever, they make it like women, women. So what is it, women? That's everybody, all women. All women are not the same. All women don't need the same things. You know, they might be tricked into thinking they want them, but it doesn't work for them. They're not built that way. Just like, you know, people are different.

and I get so tired of hearing advice being given and things like that as if everyone should act exactly the same. It just drives me crazy, Bill. I wasn't really detecting that. Where were you? I guess when it comes to family formation, though, I think there are some hard and fast rules. We should be doing it, don't you think? Well, yes, what I'm talking about, you know, the women that don't want to be around their children, they want careers and stuff like that. You know, things like that need to be maybe looked at when they're younger so that they don't make the mistake of having children that are going to suffer for the rest of their lives without a mother, you know?

That kind of, I mean, I know I'm going a little deep with that one, but it's all right. It's just that people are different. And so advice of how people should act, having it all be the same. Everyone should do this. Everyone should do that. Well, I think, though, honestly, what I heard from this, though, is that you have the Michelle Obama, and, I mean, what wave of feminism are we in right now? Isn't it about the 12th wave of feminism, which it sort of lurches, you know, lurches back and forth? It's so mentally ill. I can't even tell the comment on it. I mean, I was around when, you know, Gloria Steinem hit the scene.

Yeah, but still, can we agree, though, that the culture generally is completely high. hostile, most of the time, about 80% hostile to family formation and the rearing of children. Well, yes, that's what the New World Order agenda is all about. Okay. Well, then, is it okay to say that, you know, that maybe as a general piece of advice, men and women should form families and have kids? Express myself poorly there in the beginning. Oh, okay. I'm not saying these things are bad.

What I'm just trying to say, I'm just trying to point out that all women aren't, you know, just like men, we all are not the same. Some of us are not equipped to be that type of a person. Okay. And I'll concede your point. Sure. And I just think those kind of, that should just be taken into consideration if you're in a position to be dealing with people, maybe trying to counsel them or that kind of thing. You know that that needs to be taken into consideration. All right.

And duly noted. Okay, now I understand. I think I was confused. You're really. I was probably expressing myself incorrectly. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. Come on. I'm the host.

I have to follow my sword. No, it's me. It's always me. Do you need someone to sharpen it? I'm kidding. Thank you, Francie. We love you, Bill. See you later.

All right, 77056633. Open phones, and we'll be doing some contesting a little bit later and having fun. 770 KMED. What's on your mind? Hi, everyone. Amber Rose here with Siscue pump service and rotary drilling com.com slash Kim. 836. By the way, we're also heard on Trance letter K-294 AS Ashland K290 AF Road River, okay? This is the Bill Myers show on KMED. Turn it over to you. You have some good conversation. I think Jerry's on the road. Jerry, I'll go to you first year. How you doing? It's on your mind. It's doing pretty good.

I haven't heard anything about school vouchers for a while. I'm wondering if you know anything about it. Have I heard anything about a push for school vouchers in Oregon? No, I can't say I have, Jerry. You know, I don't think there's any push in democratically controlled Oregon to do that at this point because that might get in the way of the Oregon Teachers Union. So that's going to be a hard lift or a high level. lift, I think, in Oregon. But I know that next week is, I think next week is National School

Choice Week. So maybe I can check into that and see what the developments are, but I don't know anything at the moment for that, okay? Appreciate the call. Good hearing from you. Let me go to Dawn. Don, Don, you're here too. Hello, Don. Welcome. Hi, Bill. Well, I was wondering if I was supposed to be offended by a transgender man, mostly, I call Manchell Obama, but Mike is Michael LeVon Robinson giving women career advice. Oh, so you're going down the, well, you know, there's been a lot of suspicions about Big Mike, but I've not seen scientific proof of it. Do you have some? Well, Malia and Sasha are the daughters of Anita Blanchard, who I believe passed away.

They look just like them. And Martin Nesbitt, who was, in Obama's cabinet. Boy, you're never going to be invited to the Obama's mansion out there on the shore. Oh, I hope not. Yeah. Anyway, I kind of more called to talk about contract law. Oh, okay. What's that?

Well, like, where do these property taxes come from? We're basically, we have universal commercial code, right? UCC law that keeps everything uniform between states and all that. and we're basically, we have administrative law and we have contract law. So it's what you consent to. So when you own your property, where do we consent to being taxed in our property? It's actually when you make your deed public. So when you put your property in the private, you don't have to pay property taxes.

You've broken the contract. Yeah, I have heard and talked with people, various people over the years that have found some way to, in other words, flip it around to what's the type of title, the style of title rather than the fee simple title, which is what most of us have, I think, isn't that right? If I understand correctly, I'm not a property guy, but am I right about that? Fees simple, well, the idea is we didn't, where did we sign the contract that we agreed to pay these property taxes? I don't know about fee simple, but. Well, no, no, but the type of title that you have, there is, there's a type of title, which is, it has a special name for it, which is kind of untouchable by the state. Oh. Yeah.

I wasn't aware of that, but we're fighting to stay right now. No, but as far as where is the contract? Yeah, the contract is that here's the contract. They have the guns and they take your property if you don't pay, okay? That's the contract, I think, that we're living under right now. Right, but we do own our property. You have to have due process of law. We own our property.

We own our home. So why are we paying property taxes on all this stuff we don't agree to, like the swidewalks? Anything going to happen with that? Well, I don't think too many people. People have, I don't have an answer for you at this point unless, let's see, there's a lot of entanglements and, not entanglements, but a lot of adherences that we have that, yep, you sign the paper and you are now plugged into that system. You are adhered to it. You have a driver's license. You have a banking account, which is federally regulated, and you're adhered to it.

Hence, there's money to be seized. There's a big question that you're asking. In other words, where is the social contract? There never has really been a social contract. There is government power by force, and then we either submit to it or rebel. So I guess that's what it is. Contract law also applies to the IRS. And when Schiff, I forgot his first name, when he went to jail, he didn't dissolve the contract with the IRS.

Yeah, Irwin Schiff. I know you've been talking about this because you have the, You have this system that you're working through or something like that. I know that. But I don't want to endorse it because I don't know what it's all about, okay? Right. It's well, constitutional. Okay.

Yeah, I don't have the answer for you, and I would love to be able to wave the magic wand, but we're not quite there yet. I would just be happy if we had enough people that were willing to protest to stop the nonsense that we have right now before we get to the point of abolishing property taxes and the IRS and all the rest. Deplorable Patrick, you've been holding here for a while. Go ahead. Morning. Good morning. Allotial title. I was shot at the phone. A loiterial title. Thank you.

All right. Well, just that little thing. Then I wanted to thank you for having Ed Deal on the governor candidate, the Republican governor candidate. And I'll definitely be supporting him. There's a lot of things to like about him, but what I really like is he's not a lesbian. Isn't that great? Well, I know that being a lesbian has usually been considered the main requirement for being the governor of Oregon, but maybe we can change that in 2026. Not that there's anything wrong with being a lesbian, you know, like Jerry Seinfeld said, can't, nothing wrong, but there does seem to have been a growing trend in Oregon

politics that that is the qualification. Just saying. All right. That's what I'm saying. Thank you. Minor Dave. Go ahead, Dave. So we were talking about nonprofits making profit, like, say, take the Rogue Valley Council of Government. I believe that's a membership that cities and counties pay into to get their... Well, to get their daily dose of statewide globalism. I think that's really what the... I think it's what RV Cog is really about. Yeah, and then you've got, like so ready, a public-private partnership supposedly to do economics, but their economics are fraud.

Well, all I was saying, though, is earlier this morning, I think we're at the point that, and I was talking about Sunny Spicer's group having bought the Mail Tribune building. Well, there is another $3.5 million building that is being taken off the property tax rolls. and then you have your cities and your counties, everybody kind of starving for money or, you know, revenue for the sheriff or all these various other services. And then they end up, you know, going out there and fishing for every piece of grant stream funding that there could be to make up the difference. You know, that's what I'm getting at. You know, California here is missing for $20 billion that was supposed to go for a homeless housing and nobody knows where the money went. They haven't built one, they haven't provided one house for anybody. Yeah.

And the nonprofit world is largely captured, not all, but largely captured by the Democratic Party here in the state of Oregon. And it also takes money out of the property taxes available for local services. At least it's locally generated income. My take on it is that in my benevolent dictatorship, the nonprofit organization can have one property and that's it. This whole idea that there is going to be an empire of whether it's coffee shops and various other things or retail stores, I think should go away. There should be one exception to that.

What? The hospitals and clinics because you might need them in more than one place. Okay. I might concede you on that. Thanks, Dave. 770KMED. Good morning. Hi, who's this?

Hello? Good morning, Bill. Ron here in Medford. Hey, did you say Ron? Yeah. Thank you, Ron. Go ahead. So Ron Gibson, I believe, out of Grants Pass, did the land to get to offer a certificate of title and basically prove that you own the property and that you don't have to pay taxes on it.

Now, I don't know it's a lot of lawyer paperwork. Yeah. But he passed away. I think it was last year, but he still has a organization that helps people do that. something I've been interested in for years but haven't really taken it up because my house is paid for, but yet I'm still paying almost 5,000 a year in taxes. And a third of that goes to the 549 C, which I don't really like because I haven't had a kid in school. Well, of course, you know what will happen is that they'll say, listen here, you had someone else pay for you with socialism. You must continue socialism for the next generation will not be educated.

Of course, coming out of Medford 549C and all the other public school systems, according to the test rankings, they're not being educated or educated right now as is. Well, yeah, as a boomer, I've ruined everything. Oh, that's right. I forgot. I forgot. Well, thank you for the reminder. Okay. Good morning. Hi, this is Bill. Who's this? Welcome on KMED. This one? Yeah. Hi, good morning. It's Gino. Gino. Welcome. I would like to go back to Elodial title if you'd like to do that.

Okay. I've assisted about a dozen people since 2000 in acquiring a lot of title to their property, one here near Graspa on Applegate River back in 2000. And so here's the game. When they took the money out of the money during the Great Depression, and they took the gold away and then they took the silver away, suddenly you had no more substance to actually do a transaction. And so what we're doing is called exchanging.

debt. And what happened is, and I've acted, you're familiar with the name, Ed Griffin. He wrote the book, Creature from Jackal Island. Yes. I had the occasion for probably, from 2000 to 2006, two, three times a year, I had a booth right next to Ed's booth and international conferences about what this game is about. And so I got a lot of personal time with him, and he coached me through a lot of this. Now, what happened was after the bankruptcy, he showed me an actual... You're talking about the bankruptcy of the United States in the Great Depression. Okay. Called the Great Depression, right. Yeah. After the bankruptcy, the Federal Reserve Bank issued a notice to all the Federal Reserve banks in the United States claiming to not automatically

advance the allodial title since the entire country was bankrupt. The banks took possession of And now you get a deed of trust and a trust of a three-party contract as a grantor, beneficiary, and a trustee. You become actually the trustee of the property. In other words, you get to keep it up and keep the code and everything else. And you get a few bucks at the end and get to live there. But the banker winds up with three times two to three times more value out of the property. And by the way, and this is using money, which was borrowed into existence, right? Right.

Well, it's not even money. Well, using credit that was borrowed into existence. Good. And I was talking about that a few days ago, Gino, about lawsuits. I haven't had a chance to get to that topic again of the various lawsuits. In fact, I have a whole bunch of them in which that got us to the point where the government declared that they're borrowed into money, funny money, credit, was something, even though it essentially is nothing. but it's functioning as something. Right. And that's all that mattered.

That is the scam which we have been set up in for many decades. Well, a century, a century or more right now. If I might finish you up with one story, I helped a woman, she was in her late 70s back in 2000 to acquire a lodiol title to the property above the Applegate River just by the turnoff there. And her family had been there for four generations. Now does it hold up, though? when the tax people come. That's who I'm going.

So what happened then was one of the, at that time, county commissioners from Josephine County bought the little lot down at the, the lot right on the highway. They're right on the road going up. Gino, I'm running out of time, quickly. Anyway, eventually she got the little title. And well, there's the whole story behind that, how I watched it prove out in a number of places. One time in Vermont, another time here in Oregon, two times in Idaho. So once you acquire a lot of title, it's hands off by the county.

And anyone who comes on your property from the county can be fired or even jailed for violating private property in a false name of the authority. You know, I'm going to run that by a county commissioner and see if that's true. Okay? Well, if you want to, I've got the books. I've got the records. No, I don't want the books of the records. I want to find out if it actually works in real practice. Okay.

That's what I'm getting. There's books, there's theories, there's contract law, there's all the rest of it. but does it keep your property from being seized? I'd love to find out more, but thank you, Gino. Got to go because it is time for the Diner-62 Real American Quiz. Jump on it. 7705-633-770K-M-ED. And if you haven't won this in the last 60 days, you can win in here in just a bit.

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And let us go to David. David is in Phoenix. Hello, David. Morning, Bill. I'm hungry for clams. All right. Well, yeah, today is clam chowder Friday, by the way, too. It was today, actually Sunday, January 25th in 1963, 61 rather. JFK becomes the first president to hold a live television news conference. And, you know, it never really happened before. This is on TV. Of course, JFK knew all about the power of television. So here's the deal. The good looking president talking Congo famine and everything else. How long was this press conference? Televised to the nation. 24 minutes, 37 minutes, 50 minutes, 63 minutes, or 76 minutes?

What do you say? I'm going to say, I'm going to guess, choice, the first choice. 24 minutes. No, it is more than that. Let me go. But try, thanks for trying, though. We got Jerry next. Hello, Jerry.

Hey, good morning. First televised news conference, 37 minutes. It's 50, 63, or 76. The 30. You're thinking 37 minutes? Really? Yes. Yes.

You are absolutely right. 30 minutes. As the first president to broadcast such conferences live without delay, 65 million people watched it that day. And boy, they were talking Cuba, Cold War tensions, all the rest of it. It was a big deal at the time. So anyway, Jerry, hang on. We're going to send you over to Diner 62,

appreciate you listening. Hang on. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit Fontana Roofing Services.com. A message from Modoc. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Now Bill wants to hear from you. 541-770-5633. I just realized that line of random is, oh, wait a minute, I got like 30 seconds.

I probably can't squeeze a call in. All right. So, well, call me at 770-5-633 on Monday. All right. We'll continue that talk. I just want to make sure you know the 15th annual wipeout hunger drive still going on at Kelly's Automotive. They're doing great work. 40 ounces or more of peanut butter, 10 ounces or more of jelly to either the Grants Pass or Medford location.

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