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Episode Date: January 26, 2026

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This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klauserdrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. Well, we got the Facebook live back up. I smacked the camera around a little bit and said, hey, you have got to go back to work. And then it magically started working. So that's good.

Actually, I think it's more like a pin to the reset button side of the, you know electronics. What can we say here? So we got that back up. All right. So Facebook, make sure you know it's Facebook.com slash Billumire's show. That's my main show page, okay? By the way, a little post note on what happened over the weekend with all of our leftist hive mind city organizations, you know, coming out of the woodwork over what happened in Minneapolis over the weekend. Oregon Nurses Association, of course, is coming unglued over the death of the, ICU nurse. And what I find really interesting is that while they were talking about that, they were really

quiet on that labor and delivery nurse that was fired for wishing that huge childbirth injury on the press secretary who's pregnant. You know, Caroline Levitt, they said nothing about that in which, isn't that interesting, Greg Roberts over at rogueweather.com. But, boy, we sure know about the, about the, the other gentleman. Good to have you on, Greg. Welcome back. Yeah, I know. Collective outrage is, you know, probably another. Well, certainly, there's also the other aspect is that the Oregon Nurses Association has been behind every, hugely behind every anti-second

Amendment gun control bill that has ever come around. The ONA Union has been all over that kind of stuff. But I'm sure they would support their nurses' Second Amendment, right? I have no doubt about that, the one from Minnesota. Just saying. Okay. It is, but not ours. Uh-huh. Yeah, because we're unsafe, but the nurse knows what they're doing. Anyway. Oh, wait, Bill. What? What we've got for the theme for breaking news, but breaking news. Yeah? It's just been coming across the wire. I'm looking at it right now. nurses who ducted police zones insert themselves in the middle of situations. Meanwhile, with no ID and carrying a pistol with three high-capacity magazines fully loaded, do not get shot.

Okay. Breaking news. I don't know that's a breaking news thing. We'll give you a real American salute. Okay? How about that, Greg? No, thank you. All right.

Greg Roberts, once again, rogueweather.com. And we're going to have a special outdoor report here, sponsored by Oregon Truck and Auto Authority on Airway Drive in Memphis. Greg, we wanted to talk, though, mostly about, why don't we do a quick take on the Snowmageddon, the Icemageddon, I think, which is what it ended up being more like, especially down in Texas areas like that, and then we'll pivot over to wolves if that's okay today. Yeah, no, no problem. What did we go on? It was pretty interesting to watch that unfold, and part of it was, I mean, just the country that was expected to be impacted by the, you know, and true to form. and even some smaller in terms of area of impact, we saw some areas get hit harder. And we definitely had some areas that did.

They went to bed last night. One of those areas was definitely South Carolina, just did not see the amount of icing there, at least through last night that had been expected. And then again, the storm is still clearing off to the east. So maybe I was going to check and find out this morning that they did want. lined up, said there was a second wave of snow that rolled up through Texas and Oklahoma last night. That was definitely occurring, and it was like, wait a minute, that's actually producing more snow than what any of the models had ever indicated. So we definitely, we had some of that.

and then we had spots where kind of like, well, that's it? Well, none of that matches up to what you guys were saying and blah, blah, blah, blah, and then the second wave hit. Oklahoma definitely had that. Well, I know that Mississippi or Tennessee, rather, 800,000 without power there right now, 800,000 homes and businesses. So it's pretty serious there, and most of that due to the ice, from what I understand, the ice has been the real killer on the power system.

Yeah, without any question. And literally, there's a lot of business. real killer. I don't know where we're at currently on fatalities due to the storm, but last night, when I went to bed and the last check I had, there'd been 10 fatalities due to mentally motor vehicle accidents. I was seeing a lot of reports on social media of people saying, well, we lost power and we were afraid, well, that's going to be it. And then much to our surprise, power came back on. And I do know that they sent fleet after fleet of utility and crews into the southeast where they feared icing was going to be the worst. So I do know there were people in Texas. There were people in Louisiana.

There were people in Mississippi reporting, yeah, we lost power and we thought, well, that's that. And then three, four hours later, they had power again. Now, I don't know if some of those areas lost power later, but the initial reports seemed like rushing all those resources into those areas was definitely, you know, paying off with some people getting power back much quicker than anybody ever would have expected. But today's another day, so we'll have to assess and see where things are at. And you know what comes right down to it, the weather forecasters, whether, you know, at the local level or the national level and beyond, is that, you know, you're kind of caught between a rock and a hard place, because if you don't warn people about the potential of a really serious issue,

and then the serious issue really comes as bad or worse than what you were predicting, then you're in trouble, right? Yeah, all that breaks loose because then it's far worse to have a situation develop and have it get really bad. So weather forecasting is always going to be the worst-case scenario first, and then you hope, well, maybe things aren't going to be. be that bad. Yeah. Especially in the case of something like, you know, that storm that went through and is still, you know, it's moving off to the east. There are still sections of the country dealing with a lot of snow and a lot of ice

that's still coming out of the sky right now. Fair enough. All right. The other aspect of this, too, what kind of surprised me, and it sort of saddens me in some ways, Greg, when I read about how the grocery stores were like cleaned out, the shelves bear in advance of something like this. And I'm thinking to myself, boy, it just shows, though, how few people really have any kind of credible survival instinct or the ability maybe. I don't know if it's the ability or just maybe the desire to have more than a day or two of groceries or food in their area.

And I'm hoping that maybe it's a teachable moment for some because I'll tell you, if you're expecting during a big blizzard, or big weather or earthquake or problem to go to the grocery store, ain't going to happen. It's kind of disturbing. And, you know, the entire life I've heard a story, you know, makes me up. It really. Really? Still? I don't understand what this is wanting to have a toilet paper is now when people think

there's a big disaster. They were talking about milk, water. Yeah. Yeah, that actually makes sense. You know, I get that. But, toilet paper, because, well, let's face it, 90% of what we as humans do in a toilet requires either no toilet paper if you're a dude. If you're a female and a master situation, you probably want to have something a bit more versatile, paper towels, napkins.

Yeah. They flame. I don't know if it's a good idea to flush paper towels down the toilet, though. So we've actually, people who have to live on tight budgets will actually flush. You can't put a lot of it down. Yeah, will it dissolve or rip apart in the sewage system, though, and not plug stuff up? That's what I would wonder. Okay, that may or may not be.

But, you know, when you're talking disaster, you need to try and suck, you get back to toilet paper, and it's, it pretty much only does just one thing. Well, maybe it's just one of those things where, you know, the world may be going to hell in a handbasket, but at least my behind will be soft with the Charmin bear stuff, you know. You know, that fluffy Charmin bear, it's going, ooh, it's all soft or whatever. Yeah, well, yeah. You know, there's that. Well, it's kind of like to me, you know what civilization is to me, not just toilet paper, but coffee. So, yeah.

Well, coffee, of course, but there are any kind of a kind of a preparation person? There's all kinds of ways to produce coffee. I mean, coffee makers make it nice, but when it really comes right down to it, you know, when you just got to have your coffee, there's a reason I still keep some instant coffee around, and it isn't because, you know, I really enjoy drinking instant, but it's better than nothing. So, yeah, I still have instant coffee when to go camping, that kind of stuff. definitely will still have the ability to do instant coffee if I don't want to take the camping, hiking, variants that you just do some boiling water, and it's essentially the same thing.

So, yeah, I still keep Folgers instant around just in case. It's kind of a poor substitute for coffee, but hey, you know, Viva La Differance, right? Hey, Greg, all right. So we'll wrap that up now for the current outdoor report, since you're going to be on Mondays for the next few weeks. But what I did want to talk with you on a little bit more basis was wolves. And why don't we do that after the news break here? Let's go through news and catch up on that. And then what do we dig into that?

You good with it? All right? Yeah, I'm good with. I'll go ahead and stand by and we'll accomplish the rest of what we need to do at this time. Yeah, get some Folgers in your cup if you really need that. Exactly. Greg Roberts, of course, Mr. Outdoors, will continue going into the issues that we're having with wolves around here in southern.

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Do you hesitate to heat the whole house when you... Hi, I'm Jessica from Pickerspon, and I'm on KMED. 734, Mr. Outdoors back, and we're going to talk a bit, wolves. And maybe the problem with wolves, and maybe something that Greg has been noting about our reaction and how wolves are reacting, or shall I say, maybe not reacting to us and kind of get his take on it. I know that people like Bill Simpson. I've talked with Bill Simpson about this, too, and he's taking more of a wolves are going to do what wolves going to do kind of thing. I'll probably talk with him about it, too, Greg.

But I guess we're really kind of concerned that the wolves aren't scared of humans at this point in time. Fair enough. Is that your basic takeaway? Yeah. You know, and going through and reviewing this and trying to learn what I can on the situation, there is a term that popped up that described, like, well, that doesn't sound so threatening. Being at examples of things that have happened in other areas

were situated with about wolves floating around out there. See it on rogue other pages. They're not dangerous. Being hit by lightning or being hit by a wolf. And I hit them back with the absolute vary, depending on what area we're talking about and what the state, because that's what in Alaska. Had a teacher, small towns out there in the forest,

in Alaska. She went out for her usual afternoon jog and did not return. Wasn't she, she was wearing, uh, wasn't she wearing, uh, earbuds, if I recall? She was. And she had ear plugs in and down this road followed her for a distance. It was keep running. She never did in forest when you've got got, and in that area, besides wars, and okay, wintertime, snow on the ground. No, you don't generally think bears. Trailed her, decided. she was a target of opportunity, and then they did attack her, killed her on the road, eating on her body. And they wound up killing four wolves and remains in the storm. But to be fair, it's not an incredibly common activity for the wolves, right?

No, it's not. But the thing that tied the two in San Alaska, to any opportunity you get year-round, and you still had this happen. And what we've observed happening over the course of time, especially here in Jackson County, is as humans are brazen and developed in other areas. In Lake County last year, the wolf that was doing that was eventually put down. Clarol Wolf emergency in Lake County. Down in Northern California, I had videos sent to me by a logging truck driver showing a pack of wolves. just sit there and stare, and he goes, normal behavior.

Well, yeah, I guess it's normal behavior for wolves that have figured out that nobody ever hassles them or is allowed to do much to them, right? That's what you're getting at. The one dangerous thing about humans is we think we can safely say what animals are going to do all the time just because general thought. what we make a must allow for the fact that there can be variances in behavior, and we do that with a lot of animals. I'll give you another example. Go in and start searching videos, and you will find deer and elk eating everything from rabbits to birds. Okay. So not just necessarily a gentle plant eater then. Okay. No. And, you know, that's what I mean. Humans, we develop this thing that, oh my gosh, we

think we know everything and knowing the reality we don't. So then you add in something with the judge level and got attacked by a dog. His first giveaway that I knew he didn't get attacked by a wolf attack the way he was claimed. Could you give me that example or refresh my memory on that? I kind of forgot about that. Well, he claims he was out harvesting morel mushrooms, minding his own business. He claimed too. And then he said this wolf, quote unquote, came out of the brush. Not the way a wolf would normally work then. Yeah, and then plus, you know, which at that time was public, anybody could go and look and see what he, and he was very anti-wolf. So he got himself in trouble. His employer was actually up in Portland. He needed to cover the fact he got dog

attacked. So he thought, I know I'll kill two birds with one stone. I hate wolves, so I'm going to say I got attacked by a wolf and make other people hate wolves. Well, except his small problem was, anybody who truly knows the animal knew his story was Bovenous excrementous. Yeah, did not hold it. Yeah, did not hold it. Okay. So fine. So here it is we now know, especially in the Eagle Point area, Butte Falls, I should say, is more likely we're talking about.

We have habituated wolves. Fair enough. Is that what we got right now? Habituated? Yes. Okay. So Canada and Alaska, there is a higher threat level. And only people with their heads in the clouds and who know.

knows what else they have their heads and will deny that, then directly will tell you without any question they have absolutely no fear of people at all. See, that's a real bad sign when the wolves are not even beginning to be afraid of humans, because this is when the bad stuff could start developing. Maybe not right away, but over time, right? Yep. So, and especially getting up there, hearing from people directly in firsthand, seeing where incidents are taking place, having the experience I had, which, okay, certainly wasn't threatening,

but I'll tell you what, to have the entire pack howling back at me, that's something that it never happened before. Yeah, I remember when you did that, okay. Yeah, you fooled them, I guess. No, I know. Well, I didn't. I guess maybe I did to the point where I was able to successfully pull off really sounding like a wolf and getting a response back was one resident who lives there saying, I'm hearing 11 and the neighbor to the south going. I definitely heard Tim and at mail in that pack. Sure. So our challenge that as we move forward here, because you're still not allowed to do anything to the wolves, really, are you? Greg? I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. I'm I'm not an expert on this. I don't claim to be. Okay? The people up there, unless they're going to do something illegal, playing by the books,

the only thing they can truly use on them right now is harsh language. That's it. Boy, long term, that's not going to work out real well for Southern Oregonians out in the rural lands, will it? No, absolutely not. And again, we have had already two documented, proven wolf attacks on humans here in Oregon since they've quote-unquote officially been back. And both of them happen to be elk hunters. And yes, I will concede they definitely did things that helped bring that on themselves. Well, first off, being by yourself, right? That's not a good thing.

Being by yourself near elk, which the wolves are also near the elk. And then probably the even biggest mistake, making yourself sound like a cow elk who was lost trying to get back together with everybody, the wolves immediately were like, oh, there's a better target of opportunity. Remember, they're strategic. And so they went to investigate the quote-unquote cow elk off by itself and instead found a human. And instead of withdrawing, the attacking and the evidence clearly showed it was a two-year-old female, which also told me more about what was going on state of mind with the wolves. Yeah, what is the significance of a two-year-old female then, Greg?

Because the two-year-olds in the pack, male or female, they're basically, if you want to look at it this way, they're the workers. They do the majority of the hunting and the killing. They also provide babysitting services for the pups. They're that next level below the dominant breeding pair, protecting and defending, typically ducting. So the fact that you had two-year-old female wolves involved in the attacks on the humans, I went, okay, so now I understand exactly what happened here. They were in hunt mode. They weren't out looking to attack where they thought they were going to have a meal and instead found a human. the protection side of it came in.

We're going to defend our food source and drive off the competitor. But they do that with all other predators, cures, bears. One thing, the research out of Wyoming and Idaho has shown the two speed each other, every chance they can get it into a tree, and escape taking that away, able to get a mouthful themselves, because the other myth out there from the wolf haters are wolves are blood, thirsty killers, opportunists and scavengers, and they will drive cougars off of their kill, claim it for themselves.

So what does the cat have to do? Go out and kill again. Yeah, and so the cat ends up getting closer to humans, too, I would imagine, as part of this. Without any question, because the main food sources, deer and elk, decide, okay, we're done dealing with the wolves, and part of their strategy of being done dealing with the wolves, and we see it here locally, go get closer to humans. And the cats just follow them right in. All right.

So as far as policy suggestions, if we actually had the ear of those in charge, and by the way, is this a federal, essentially federal rules we're living under? At this time, it still is without any question, because delisting hasn't happened yet. Now, this is something that I know that Congressman Cliff Benson is a big fan of delisting, correct? But, you know, again, people aren't being told the full story, and even people here in Oregon believe all we got to do is delist them and our troubles are over. No, that's not it at all. Why not? Delisting is administrative procedure. It's going to remove the federal government out of it,

which they want out of it because every stated goal of the original reintroduction going back to 1994 has more than been met. In other words, there's enough population. Enough population is returned for these wolves, right? And even to areas that it was never dreamed they would appear in, like ours, and down in California. So everything's been met scientifically. The lawsuits from the pro-wolf animal rights people, call them whatever you want to call them, the lawsuits have prolonged it to this point of so delisting past the House.

It may or may not pass the Senate. and even before the Senate may be able to consider it, they're very likely going to do what they did in the past and go to court and force on the endangered species list. Which is ridiculous, though, because they're obviously not an endangered species at this point, obviously. So is this because of the, you know, the Disney-ising of our culture in which, you know, the animal needs to be protected at all costs, even when there's plenty of them? out there in the world? What?

And honestly, here's the other side of it, and dealing with them, as I have in public settings, in messages to me, the pro-wolf side of it, there are people in the world, the quality and virtue on wolves that they don't even think humans have anymore. You know, it's interesting you bring that up, Greg. Years ago, we're talking like 30 years ago for a short time I was dating one of those, females like what you had mentioned. And I remember this person once told me, gosh, you know, if it were just up to me, I would just live around dogs and wolves. I remember that person. I was thinking to myself,

huh? Because they're better than humans. I remember she actually told me that. Honestly, God's truth. Okay? And so they come up with beliefs that wolves made for life, not true. They come up with beliefs that wolves do nothing but provide benefit to the ecosystem, especially when you're bringing in wolves that weren't native to the ecosystem to begin with. And they believe that wolves just couldn't possibly be a threat to humans, which also is not true. They will debate you. They will get mad and insist, and especially now in that everything's fake news or AI world, because when people hear things they don't want to believe, they just completely shut it down and first declare it

fake news, or now the new one, especially when you're showing people things, tad people who, when you show it to them. Yeah, I know. What would you suggest that moving forward as far as public policy involving the wolves? Because we are getting habituated wolves. Habituated wolves are going to be attacking more and growing more brazen over time. It's going to be next to impossible, I think, to be a rancher out there, but I could be wrong. Well, I mean, it already is on so many levels. The wolves are just the latest thing, you know, because most connected out of so many things to be a belief that ranchers were the kind of rugged people that epitomized how the West

was built so hard 24-7, 365 to provide a living for their families and food for us. that has been completely destroyed through decades and decades of the, quote, unquote, educational system switched into being plunderers of the land. And they really shouldn't be there anyway. They're taking away the homes from the animals. All right. That is the challenge. Where do we move forward with a smart public policy?

What would that be? What would that look like, you think? For context. And what would that look at it? And what would that flipping the switch look like in your view? What, shooting of wolves, more harassment of wolves? What do you do? Yeah, we definitely need to restore what we had down here, which, oh, by the way, didn't involve

ODF and W or U.S. Fish and Wildlife, sides, horseback, shoot over them, not at them. They knew, and no uncertain terms, they were unwelcome. And I just want to be clear, you can't harass a wolf in any way right now, right? Right, I said, there's language on them. That's not, that's worthless. That's a worthless reaction. Exactly. And the non-lethal deterrence is not working here anymore. Even when it did have some effect, it's a shame he got reassigned out of our area, and now he has retired.

The whole I encountered and worked with on the wolf issue, them the wolf daddy, because he basically was in charge. Entire thing on the program with wolves, part of Oregon especially, and Wildlife Office there, but he was in Jackson County, and he was an invaluable but was formed as long as he was here before he got reassigned by U.S. Fish and Wildlife. And John warned us all on the committee. All of the non-lethal bill employee will only work for a period of time, and then the wolves will figure them out.

And they did. And now, putting out Fladry, putting out Fox Lights, the effectiveness now. them. It's only going to take some harassed and or an occasional dead wolf to really change the behavior of these packs. Okay. Yeah, they need to, they need to, everything they definitely have done in northeastern Oregon, even far less. They have cold wolves. And when they do that, they go out and they're looking to take out one of the dominant pair of the pack, either the male or female, and then they'll take however many subordinates, I think the most I've heard of was four, so a total of five.

And then you do get some short-term relief, but long-term what winds up happening is, then they redevelop packs of their own, and then the problem actually will magnify. But for short-term relief, it just, it flat has to be done. And John told us this, as we were getting the committee rolling, and he told us for years, there will be times when the only thing you can do is remove wolves. Thinking that long to get to that point here in Jackson County, that's, well, to use a term, to be on my pay grade. All right.

Greg, I appreciate the take on it. Thanks for the conversation, and we'll pick it up again another time, but I'm out of time right now. But thanks for telling us at least your experience in having been on the Wolf Committee and having worked with John and these various other people. that, you know, just sitting around and these non-lethal, non-lethal methods are just not going to work for these folks over in the Butte Falls area. Okay. Thanks so much.

Yep. All right. Be well. Take care. You too. Greg Roberts once again. Greg Roberts once again, I should say, from rogueweather.com. KMED and KMED HD-1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG grants pass.

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This is the Bill Myers Show. Glyke here. We're going to check up with Fox News here, get the latest from the national. and the various, well, you know how that goes. The national news for a long time seems to have been, okay, what's the daily outrage? Here you go. You know, have at it. Dr. Dennis Powers, where past meets present, we're going to talk about the law fair, various other issues. And I'd like to ask Dr. Powers if, is it time for enacting the Insurrection Act, really?

Yeah, I think if I were president, I'd probably be looking at that. I imagine President Trump is looking at this very closely. too. Of course, I know that Homeland Security, Tom Holman is going there. Tom Holman, pretty tough cookie. I'd be curious to see what that may come out of this. Nobody wants unnecessary death and or destruction. But you know, when you're telling your people to go out there and get in the face of police action, a lot of bad things can happen. A lot of bad things usually do happen. That's kind of how I'm looking at this. but we'll kick it all around with a good doctor, and of course your calls and opinion here.