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Episode Date: January 28, 2026

Open phones on Pebble in your Shoe Tuesday, Minneapolis, crapification of customer service, other topics. Former Senator Baertschiger talks what is the real agenda at Minnesota, Chris Dudley, and more.

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Jay Austin, call 482-375. Their number, Fortune Reserve.com. Reserve.com. All right. What do we have going on? It's open phones now on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, 770KMED. Rod writes me this morning, Bill, I believe Trump is willing to remove some of his officers from Minnesota, provided that Wals cooperates with ICE and turns over incarcerated the illegals for removal,

as Holman had argued for in the beginning. I can live with that. Then no one gets hurt. Rod from Eagle Point. Rod, I appreciate that. And George also weighing in from his iPhone this morning. Bill, I heard on news that it is reported that his gun, that is Alex Priddy's gun, went off when he fell, and that's when they shot him.

Now, I've read some competing claims about this, and this has to do with what kind of firearm was it? Because to me, it looked like a Sig P320. Other people were saying as a pig, a SIG P226, the SIGP320 is famously, and now being exposed on the web as a firearm that has, has some unintentional discharge kind of things. But also, we don't know if somebody else, we do know that someone else stripped that firearm from Alex at one point. And was there bad trigger control or, you know, was it cocked and locked? I don't have an answer. I still haven't even found out credibly whether or not that firearm had been fired at that event or if it was some author-officer's firearm that went off.

I don't know. But, yeah, once there's one shot, then it's just kind of like, gun, gone, gun, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then Alex is dead. All right. 770K.M.E., hello, Dave. Good to have you on. What's up? Yeah, I want you to say, it's obvious to me that the CIA, is run by five-byes, which is the British, UK, MI-6.

And so if you want to end the color revolutions, end the five-bys and the special relationship with the British Empire. So you're thinking that the British Empire is conducting its color revolution against the United States people. Is that what you're claiming here? Yes, that's what I think it is. is because they're famous for doing so. And I believe it's the British to kill our presence. There's a book out there I haven't been able to get. But it's from Prunithius. I'll send you

the link to it. But, you know, I believe that the British is a stem of all evil. Well, I don't know why you have to go outside to the British to determine that the British, which frankly, I don't think of them as a very powerful people at this point. I mean, my gosh, they're... It's not the people. It's the money people, the globalist behind them. Oh, oh, okay. All right. Because this is a country that can't even stop its own invasion, and so they'd like an invasion here? Well, no, they're doing the same thing in England. They want they want total control. You know, King Charles III says he's the leader of the, you know, of the Anglian church. but he just came out and said he's the leader of all Muslims and all Jews.

Really? Yeah, he's a madman. Okay, I've got to have, I've got to look that one up. Dave, I appreciate the call. Interesting call. Interesting one. All right. Question I will pose on pebble in your shoe Tuesday.

Is what's going on in Minneapolis, the backing off the cooling down? Is it a good policy, you think, or a little bit demoralizing to the base? I can almost feel like a little bit of both, but you let me know. I have other things going on, too, that I would like to share about, including the increasing crappification of services in businesses. And I'll give you a couple of examples that kind of yanked my chain the other day. The French fries. The Bill Myers Show on Southern Oregon's home for conservative talk.

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I have a bunch. One thing I'd oppose to you this morning is President Trump demoralizing the base by cooling things down rather than doubling down. I'm kind of in the mood to want to double down and spank sanctuary states and cities and just say, no, you're not going to rebel. But that's probably why I'm not president. But I'm happy to take your call. Charles, you wanted to tell me what the Catholic term was when somebody sins and then they are granting something from the church.

Go ahead. I forgot it's been too long since I've been Catholic. How are you doing? Very good, sir. And thank you for your program. I listen to you every day. Well, thank you. I appreciate you being here.

Yes, sir. But the word that the Catholic Church uses forgiveness is it's called absolution. Absolution. In other words, I absolve you of all your sins. Now, I think the term I was looking for, and I was looking at poking around for this, was that can't the church or can't the church grant you an indulgence? Isn't that part of it too? Isn't that another term?

That's another term, correct. Yeah. And I think this is when, you know, you negotiate or talk with the priest or whatever it is and that you can get granted in indulgence. But yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you very much, Charles. Horse lady is here. Horse lady, you're hanging on.

What's on your mind? You know, Bill, yesterday, first of all, let me say I'm technologically a dummy. But yesterday I stumbled over an email that had a bunch of information about a place called Signal. Have you heard of that? Yes, I have. Okay. They were talking about it. This guy that got himself shot in Minnesota, he was on that.

And apparently it's kind of a clearinghouse for some of these rioters. Yeah, well, what it is, what signal is, is yet another phone app. And it is a encrypted messaging program that you can have your signal groups in. and you share encrypted messages back and forth. And it appears that a lot of people got organized on Signal. And there were even people within the Minneapolis, Minnesota government. I think a state Senate candidate was one of the people pretty close to Tim Walls was involved in this. There's been a lot of hollabaloo about this or a lot of, you know, kind of drama, you know, going on around this.

But it is organized. There is absolutely no doubt. It's just kind of a secret message chat app is what it is. And this guy that got himself shot, he was in it. Pretty, I think he's the same. Yeah. And Rachel Wood was in it, too. Rachel Wood?

The gal that got herself shot when she was trying to run over a car. Oh, oh, Renee Good. Renee Good. That one. Okay, yeah, a good one, not Wood there. But, yeah, point well taken. Well, needless to say, they're being told that, and they'll have a all organized to the point where, okay, we see ice agents over here, here's the license plates,

da-da-da-da-da, who will go there? And yeah, they have decided to go out there and openly thwart it. So it's not exactly like they're organic, innocent, hey, I'm just showing up with my sign and I'm going to wave it. There's a little more to it than that. The thing that's so that's so frustrating about it is that they've got it so that they're secret. And I think that I, you know what, if you're in Minnesota, stay home. Good suggestion. Thanks for the call. 770K, NED.

Let me grab another call here. It's open phones on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Hello, who's this? Hey, Bill, this is Earl from Central Point. Earl, great hearing from you. What's going on, sir? Well, it's I'm not

and tired of the fact politicians are getting a free reign by both the media critters by being allowed

to propagate this and keep it going all the illegal stuff going on can you give me an example that stands out to you well you've got all politicians

that are going out there and push for these people people to go out and break the law. They're going after the ICE people. They're going after everybody. And the other side of it is that they're pushing, that the local police cannot do their jobs by keeping these people restrained. Well, what happened on Saturday, as an example, no regular police had shown up.

There were no police involved with that. Yeah. Are you okay with President Trump backing off and cooling it down right now, or do you think that's good strategy at the moment? What's your overall take on it? There's certainly a recalibrating going on. Okay. Whether it be a fry guy locally boss in this has got to do a perk walk and be put in jail. Appreciate the call, Earl.

Thanks for that. 770KM.D. Francine's here. Hello, Francine. Hello, Bill. How are you? Well, I'm good. But I heard something on the news today that reminded me of one of my longtime pebbles in my shoe.

What's that? And absolutely ridiculous, not news, a story that they tell you the story, and then they guys sit and discuss it like it's, ooh, and blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, this morning, the story was some guys threw a packet of ketchup at someone. And that was on the national news, you know, Fox News. I mean, why? Okay. Well, is that kind of like my irritation at the USA Today headline about the thruple? Oh, it's like...

No, you know what a thruple is? I'm not sure. I remember what the... It almost sounds like they want the things from Star Trek, those little fuzzy things that can reproduce... Oh, the Tribal. Yeah, those were tribbles. The tribles, yes. No, a thruple.

A thruple is, in other words, a three-way polyamorous. Oh, that, yes, yes. I mean, why do we care? Well, but, but yeah, this is just it. You know, here it is they're making a big deal about this 30-year-old, of course. So, in other words, this is a, you know, young millennial or else old Gen Z, you know, person who is affected about this. You know, Ashley Ashbourne. And, oh, my gosh, what happens at a polyamorous breakup?

Don't get in deviant relationships, and you won't. have to know what happens in polyamorous breakups. Okay? Can we all agree on that? I mean, these things are not newsworthy. They're just not. But yet here we are. We're talking about it. Maybe that's why they do it because it generates talking clicks, I guess. It drives me nuts. But yeah, that's one of my pebbles. I got another one too. You know, when you get two left-hand turn lanes and the inner one is, you know, for people to make a, so they can make a left-hand turn onto the freeway. I know where you're going on this one.

Fire away. And everybody wants to be in the right lane because they want to go to the other side. And so that line is so long, it blocks the other side. The other side has maybe three cars in it. And the other one, you have to wait, like, through one or two lights to, you know, until you even get into the turn lane. Yeah, what you are mentioning is the stupid design of Bullock Road going on to Highway 62, right? Well, it's also, yeah.

Well, it's also the one, what is it, Highland and... Oh, yeah. Yeah. Barnett. Yeah. Highland and Barnett. Yeah. Same sort of thing.

That would drive me nuts. It's like I'll sometimes go way out of my way to avoid that intersection. Yeah. Now, the other pebble for me, though, is the morons that are on those turns that then everybody knows what the law is. When you turn left, you are to turn into, if you're in the left lane, you're to turn into the lane closest to the left as you're turning. But, oh, no.

We're going to turn across four lanes, turn left, and go onto the right lane. Those people, I would wish to strip them of their driver's license immediately and take their car out for crushing. Okay? That's what I would like to do. Now, I will go into the, you know, if I can get into the other lane when I, you know, the shorter lane, I will switch lanes after I have made my turn and put my blinker on. But you see, that's the law. You're following the law and the rule. That I will do.

See, I won't crush your car. I will not crush your car because you're actually following the turn lane, but I'm talking about someone who's turning left and then, boom, we're going to move all over the right while they are in the turn. Yeah, while they're in the, well, yeah, I know. That is not only totally illegal, but it's extremely dangerous. So in my benevolent dictatorship, lasers will attack you. They will burn up and destroy your driver's license first. It'll attack you, you know, with a microwave.

And then we will crush your car on the side of the road and leave it as an example to other drivers. Okay. Well, you know, between your benevolent dictatorship dreams and mine of, you know, being ruling the world, If they put us both in office, we could fix everything. We could get a lot of things done by lunchtime, couldn't we? We could fix everything. Yeah. Thanks for that's seen.

Bye-bye. I just having fun. You know, that's what pebbling your shoes about. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, it's me, Billy. Hey, Cherry, Cherry, how you doing today, huh? I'm great.

I just saw the best movie I've seen in many, many years. Boy, there have been a lot of bad ones coming out lately, so I, would be appreciative of a good one. Which one? Too much apocalypse. This is right on. It is from 2012, Quentin Tarantino, Django Unchained. You actually like Django Unchained? Well, I did because that's when the lawmen were respected by the town. They came in, they hunted the criminals, they killed them, or they took them alive. They got money for it, and they kept doing it and doing it in, you know, every town.

And this was between the blacks and the white. He got this slave. He made him his deputy, and he found what he were looking for, and they got him. And they kept going and going until, of course, they couldn't. So you call it, would you call this viscerally, viscerally satisfying? That was what you're getting at? It was. It had a great ending, though.

That's what I loved about it. Okay, don't give it away, though. Don't give it away, because I would watch clips of Django Unchained, and I wasn't all that impressed. So maybe I was giving it short shrift. Okay? You were because it was a great story, and it was two years before the Civil War, and it was with Christoph Walls. It's got all these actors. Leonardo DiCaprio, Samuel Jackson, Jamie Fox, Carrie Washington, you know, the Oscar winners.

So you'll give it a thumbs up. Good. I'm glad to hear it. A whole hand. All right. Glad to hear it. Cherry, I appreciate a good one. I'll give it another look because I wasn't leaning to that before, okay? You take care. 723, if you're on hold, I'll get right to you. It's Pepple in your shoe Tuesday. This is the Bill Meyer show. This hour of the Bill Myers Show is sponsored by this is the Bill Myers Show. Great having you here. 25 minutes after 7-7-7-0 KM.D. It's pebbling your shoe Tuesday. I think this is Sheila.

Is this Sheila? Welcome. Yes, this is Sheila. Did I hang up on you accidentally, Sheila? I don't know. I think it might. It could have been me. Okay, well, I'm glad you made it back in.

But anyway, we were going to talk a bit about, I had mentioned this before the top of the hour. and it is the encrapification of public service in all sorts of different businesses and services. And I'll give you mine in a little bit, but I'd love to get your take on something, which is the decay of public service. The decay of public service. Or customer service, or customer service, I think. Cell phones at work, unless you are needing your phone and your phone is a part of your job, they shouldn't be allowed at work.

I pull up to a gas station and there'll be five people standing outside looking down at their phones and not more of them doing a thing. You know, the girl behind the register, the cash register, that you're putting her out because you're a customer and she's got to put her phone down. I think these are the same people that when they do something for you, you'll thank them and then they say, no problem. And then I like to say back, listen, I'm a customer. I didn't think I was a problem to start with.

but right right yeah well sheila i'm going to give you a couple of uh in crapifications of uh of services that uh that have been kind of twirling me lately okay one of one of them has been the rise of self-service kiosks at uh at grocery stores in which uh the push is now to get you into the self-checkout now i'm sure at first they try to sell it to you as um as this will save you time when you only have a few items. And that part's very appealing, okay? But then you notice that what happens at most of the stories is that they back off on the number of real people that are running cash registers or doing the scanning any longer, all right?

So more and more you're getting pushed into this. And by the way, nobody ever thanks you for your service when you use the self. And nor do you get a discount for doing your own, you know, check out there, you know, for doing this. I'm just wondering how long will it take before when we go into a grocery store, we're going to have to unload the truck before we're able to get the shopping done and then check it out ourselves. Oh, and then on top of that, here's my other one. What do you think about this one? And I'm going to a restaurant the other day here in Southern Oregon.

I'm not going to tell them, telling me who it is, but got a couple of nice beef sandwiches. They were good beef sandwiches, no problem with this. But at this place, they get rid of the waitresses. or servers. You know, they don't do this anymore. They will bring it out. You have to go in. You pay pretty good price for these sandwiches because they got meat on them.

That's all good. So you pay for this. Great. You have to stand in line to order, right? And then you have to go get a glass and then go get your own drink and take that back to it. They'll give you a little thing and then they'll eventually come on and deliver it to you. Oh, a two and a half percent swipe fee for using a debit card. and then wanting a 15 to 20 percent tip.

And it was like... For doing nothing. And I'm like, ah! Yes. You know. Tips for, you know, I just, I'm a firm believer. Tips are something extra because you did a good job for somebody, not because you're doing your job. And now we have a world in which if you don't tip the door dash driver correctly, they come back and they stab you.

I don't know if you have heard about those kind of stories. Yeah. And then, or if you don't do the tip, you're wondering, okay, they're going to spit in my pizza, something like that, right? Right. You know. Yep. I am. The tip jars at the, you know, the quickie bar. That's, you know, when you're behind the counter waiting on customers, that's your job. You're not carrying their groceries out to their car.

Or here's the sandwich. There's the sandwich place, like, you know, a quick sub sandwich kind of place, right? That sort of thing. And they sit there, they cut their bread apart. and you're standing in line, you're having to go get your drink, you have to go get your own potato chips, and then once again, what comes up, what comes up on the swipe thing? Oh, and they start at 20%. It always starts at 20% now, 20%.

And you know that who's behind the counter is already getting at minimum 15.05 an hour, possibly more, because it's taking more to get someone in there. They aren't exactly poverty wages, are they? No, no, no, not at all. Not at all. Okay. I feel better. What about you?

Absolutely. All right. But I'm just kind of concerned that pretty soon we're going to be at the point where we're either having to unload the grocery truck before we get to take it through the checkout line ourselves. Well, you know, you could probably do that at the dollar general so you could get your stuff. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, you know, they're usually, their stuff stays on their. on their parts for days. And then the next thing that will happen at the sandwich shop, though, is that you'll have to

actually make your own sandwich, and then they'll charge you for the use of their rental tools for their condiments and everything else. They'll charge you. Yeah. Now, no doubt, I have no doubt that this is all about the creeping inflation that everybody's saying doesn't exist any longer, but we know different, don't we? Yes. Yeah, yes, we do.

Thanks for the call, Sheila. Appreciate that. 731. Harump. There we go. Of course, it could be fun to unload a Walmart, a Walmart truck sometime, just to do that, and then get first track at a good,

or first crack, rather, at a goodbye. Maybe there's an upside to that, possibly. But you can see that coming, can't you? The encrapification. Oh, there's one more. There's one more, too. Medical places here in Southern Oregon who are replacing people with AI.

And then they name the, AI. You call up the doctor or you're looking for an appointment or okay. Here, talk with our artificial intelligence assistant Christina or whatever it is. And, you know, I don't, I'm tired of this pushing people to talk to the series and the Christina's or whoever your AI is as if it is a person and encouraging kids to say yes and please and all the rest of it. Stop it. Everything is like, press one. Give me a person. I want an actual person. I want an actual person. to argue with. I know Linda called up, you know, a doctor looking for an appointment and going through the

named artificial intelligence assistant, you know, that sort of thing. And then I would like an appointment. And then I can find no appointments. I can't find any appointments. It's like, you know, three, four months out. There's another pebble. Boy, we could keep going on this one forever, couldn't we? Hi, good morning.

This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi, Randy. Hey, Randy.

How are you doing today? What's on your mind? Well, I just called to say that I was in Walmart the other day, and they're back to people checking you out. Oh, they are? Yes, they are. Well, good. I don't shop at Walmart all that often, so I didn't know, but I know for a while they

were pushing you to the self-checkouts, probably because they were being stolen blind, right? or being stolen blind? Yes, I'm thinking that they probably lost a lot of merchandise in that through the cell kiosk, so I just thought I'd let you know. All right. Appreciate it greatly. I'll grab one more with, I know Francine hung on here, so I'll go back to you, Francine. Go ahead.

Okay. Francine? Yes. Okay. What's up? Are we on? Oh, yeah. Oh, okay.

I was just going to say, you know, your Linda's experience with the AI, on the phone. A lot of times, you know, they drive me crazy and I can actually sit there in my chair and start screaming because they make, and I'm trying to not let that happen because it's, you know, it's a darn machine making me nuts. Yeah. So what I have found sometimes will work, you just keep not answering. You just keep going, help, help, person, person, you just do not respond. And eventually they'll say, let me connect you to someone who can help you, who might be able to help you. And the person's able to get you an appointment in about, oh, 10 seconds, right? Yeah, yeah.

But if you, you know, respond to their questions, they just keep running you around in a circle, and it just makes me insane. So, you know, tell her to just, you know, not respond. We'll do. Okay. But still, I would implore people who are running offices. Stop the encrapification of service, okay? The encrapification.

Well, you know, today is Sir Thomas Crapper Day. You do know that, right? Oh, no, I didn't. Yeah, I think this is the birthday of the guy that actually invented the toilet. And so that's where a lot of business customer services have gone. So that works, doesn't it? All right? Perfect.

Perfect. Sir Thomas Crepper. What a great name, huh? That's where it came from. Herman standing by. We'll talk with him a little bit. What does it all mean? What's it all about?

Herman? This is... The sense of the heating and air business online at glacier hacac.com. Hi, I'm Mike. with Southern Oregon Small Engine, and I'm on KMED. 738 every Tuesday we talk politics. And we have former state senator, former Josephine County Commissioner, Herman Barrettiger. Herman, welcome back. How are you doing?

Oh, well, I'm doing fine. I'm in the house and I'm next to the wood stove. I've got a hot cup of coffee. Yeah, boy, it must be awfully lonely over at the County Commission. What County Commission? I don't think we have one anymore. I know. I know. It's just Ron Smith. I know Chris ended up to doing his farewell, farewell so long. You won't have me to kick around any longer. Well, he did say he might be showing up on a ballot sometime in the future.

But, well, I'll tell you, it's interesting in Joe County because you have Andreas and John West, you know, both filing for position one for this year. It's like, man, it's like all the same names coming back around again, huh? Nothing more entertaining than local politics. I guess so. Let me take it, though, to my general bone of contention and irritation and this having to do with what's been going on in not just Portland, but also Minneapolis, Minnesota. And let us break down a little bit about what is the real agenda, in your opinion, going on here with the spread of lawlessness, the organized resistance to any kind of federal immigration enforcement. It's happening this way in Oregon. We just don't have the level, quite the same level of

violence, at least not yet. And there is a, you know, there is a reason behind this. There is a reason behind this. And I've been kind of concerned that we're in our own little color revolution of sorts to break it down. But how do you see it? Well, it is. I would call it a modern type insurrection. And it is. We've seen this, we've seen it with COVID. We've seen it with George Floyd. Now we're seeing, now they've got a name for theirs, you know, this, this nurse and this woman that, unfortunately, have both lost their lives during this protest. So, you know, it's all about public opinion. So public opinion is how you win the presidency. There's no question about it. How do you gain public opinion to vote for you.

And this go around, Trump was pretty smart. You know, they tested the waters for four years. And, you know, the Biden administration basically gave him a gift. And that was letting all these millions of people into the country undocumented. And he definitely gave it to him. That was the main issue, in which President Trump was able to beat over the Democrats' heads. It now seems to be kind of, there's some splashback, I guess. or a way of a pushback, you know, coming right now.

And the president seems to be recalibrating. Do you think it's just letting it cool or is it really going to, you know, back off on a bit? Because I have a feeling that MAGA would be very disappointed and disillusioned if this ends up being a real back off. How do you see it? Yes, no, exactly. And so, you know, his supporters, you know, he has not lost that battle. He has not lost public opinion. However, you're starting to have people saying, oh, well, you know, this is a little extreme, and this is, and it is, and it is, so what the left is doing is they're using the, they're using the people that are just, that gravitate the other way. And they're used, so it's all emotional driven. These people are highly emotional.

And so they're just, so the left is just throwing gas on the fire, pumping money into it, get an organization, stern it up. And as sad as it sounds, these individuals that have went too far, crossed the line and, unfortunately, wound up dead, are their poster children that's helping them? It's just like, you know, the dead of COVID helped help them. Even back to local politics and Josephine County during COVID, the left were constantly losing things, using things against myself and the other two commissioners who really didn't have any control over COVID. I know your Department of Health back at that time, I know we're going into ancient history in Joe County. Right.

But your Department of Health was always looking for a real lockdown, crackdown kind of take from the County Commission, weren't they? They were, and we were, the commissioners were surprised. And I think we were surprised on purpose. It's like when they had to bring some refrigerator trucks in because they didn't have any places in the morgue anymore, which we don't really have a lot of places. We don't have a big, you know, a big morgue. And, you know, we use the funeral homes, basically. It's a more, the hospital has a few places.

So all of a sudden, we're surprised on TV and on the newspaper. Oh, Josephine County is bringing a refrigerator truck in because the bodies are stacking up. Now, why weren't we given that briefing by our health department before that happened? See what I mean? Well, this is kind of going back to what you talked about last week, though, in which the lifers or the staff and the department heads think that they're the ones that are actually supposed to be running Josephine County and not the politically elected representatives of the commissioners. Kind of that same feel, isn't it? A bit of that going on? Exactly.

And the positions the commissioners, myself being one of them, took, was, hey, look, this is serious. this disease is serious, and that you need to take the advice from your physician. Okay? You've got to remember, we had a lot of people when they started wanted us. Oh, my goodness, you wouldn't believe it. They wanted us to shut down I-5 in Glendale and I-5 at the Fiskew Pass and not let anybody coming from the South into the Rogue Valley. And they also wanted you to endorse vaccines, didn't you?

Yes, they did. They wanted us to endorse. So public health, of course, is endorsing the vaccines. Public health is still endorsing the vaccines, and yet it is well known now that the vaccines are not, do not do what they were always claiming right from the beginning with that little garden gnome, Fauci, what he was claiming back at the time, right?

That's right. So back to what's happening in Minneapolis. Yeah, sorry, I know you're far afield there, but it is all kind of connected in its own way, isn't it? It is, because they use. use an issue against you to sway public opinion. That's what I'm talking about. They use issues against you to sway public opinion, whether it's right or wrong. And so in Minneapolis, if you think that these protests are organic and they're just spontaneously happening... Well, we know with those

signal chats that have been exposed that they aren't organic, they are highly organized, very organized. highly organized. And they're just, you know, these people that organize this stuff, they know how to do it. They know how to promote the emotions of the people that show up and continue to stir them up, you know. And then bad things have happened because they went too far, you know, and it is sad. It is sad. I don't think there's a law enforcement officer in this country that. wants to shoot anybody, let alone kill them, okay? But unfortunately, I mean, you're not hearing all the other things. They had another either border agent or ICE agent, get their finger bit off. Yep.

Okay? How can we don't hear that? Or we've had several of them get hit by vehicles now and stuff. So, you know, the media is only pumping the one side of the story, unfortunately, on this, Bill. Now, maybe I'm a hothead on this particular issue, Herman, and I'm really not a hot head for the most part. I try to be reasoned about it. But I look at this as an open, as a true open rebellion against federal authority. Because it's one thing to not help.

It's another thing to actively thwart, all right? Absolutely. No, you're spot on, Bill. when they start following ice agents to their hotels and then following and they've got their network and hey the ice agents are going over on K Street and so now we need to all go to K Street and they're staying at at blankety blank hotel and stuff like that that is not a peaceful protest. I don't think though that President Trump sending home in it is necessarily going to fix that. I do believe this is and I know it's a big club but the Insurrection Act

I think is the only thing that will end up fixing this for the term, for the temporary time. I mean, how do you see it if you were president? Well, I'm sure they're polling it and they're trying to see if he can hang on to public opinion by doing that. It would have already happened, Bill, if the Trump administration figured out they could hold on the public opinion. But you have to remember, I would hope that the Trump administration would remember that essentially COVID-sacrifice, his first administration. He does. Giving, you know, and giving into it and trying to to finesse about it.

When you're negotiating with, in those cases, it was, you know, medical terrorists. And by the way, I know everybody's talking about the ICU nurse, Alex Predey, you know, that guy? You know, back at that time, I have no doubt being in Minnesota, he would have been screaming at you to get your mask on, and I'm going to fire you if you don't get the vaccination, and you better do it right now. And if you don't do it, then you deserve to die. Okay. He could have very well been one of those people that we remembered, okay? I would say it's more possible he was than when he was not. But you have to remember, you have to be very, very careful not to lose public opinion.

And as government, no matter whether you're federal, state, or local, you're already viewed by the public as bad, okay? It doesn't matter. Republican, Democrat, you know, look, we talk very negative about Tina Kotech. They talk very negative about Donald Trump. So government is always bad. You know why that is, Bill? Because it's true? Because it is in the back of our mind, and I don't think most people realize that,

government is coercive, very coercive. You know, people don't think about that, but they feel it. Even a good, even so-called good government action is always with the underlying threat of, we're going to hit you over the head or kill you if you don't do what we say, right? Absolutely. I mean, just think of the fundamentals. You know, if you don't pay your income taxes, you go to jail. If you don't pay your property taxes, they take your house. So government is always coercive, and we've deviated so far away from the original Constitution

or the Declaration of Independence. Tell me where in the Declaration of Independence says that we're supposed to tax the people tax one sector of the population and give it to the other. To another sector of the population. Well, tell me where it says that in the Declaration of Independence. Oh, it doesn't say it in the Declaration of Independence, but you know what has been stretched out of all, what is it the, that clause in the, in the Constitution, the Commerce Clause. The Commerce Clause gets stretched out of all recognition to do

absolutely anything that government types want to do. That's really where it is. So in the back of the mind of probably every American, the taxpayer, every American. Right or left, I would say. Right or left way. It doesn't matter. The government is bad. So when these bad things happen, that is, is kind of, you know, where you kind of go. Government is always, that's your default mentality. Your default mentality is government is bad. Okay, so President Trump then does have to recalculate carefully.

That's what you're telling me, right? Right. Okay. But still, I would say he's going to let things cool down. Now we're putting another name in there, okay? Because Nome, you know, her name's getting smeared pretty bad, so let's remove her. Yeah, I don't think. I don't.

I think what really killed Christy Nome is, you know, on Saturday, when they were doing that push that Alex Pretty was somehow there to, with his gun and his two loaded magazines, to do maximum carnage. I read that, and I said, it's over. They lost control of the narrative when they did that. It was so over the top, Herman. Yeah. I think she just lost it at that. point. Just saying. Yeah. Yeah. Well, she should have said something like when the, when the gun was discovered in the, you know, the officers, as soon as the officer says, gun, gun, when they're

trying to take down somebody, the temperature goes pretty high because now the officers think it's either me or them. Yeah. Okay. And it's always going to be them. If it's a choice between you, between them and you, okay? And listen, the courts have held that if an officer, if an officer's, officer believes that they are imminently in danger of their life, they can use that kind of force. Even if it is a mistake, I would add. Even if it is a mistake, because if it's not a mistake, then the officer's dead. So, you know, but that's not what's going on. Now they're showing this person's picture, you know, with his scrubs on, and he's a gentle,

calm nurse that makes a living helping people. Could have been a member of the Oregon Nurses Association, which, of course, never saw a left-wing cause and gun control bill that it wouldn't support, right? Right, right, right. So you're going to see things that are going to come out, but I think they're going to turn the heat down for a while, and they're probably going to change their tactics. They're probably going to be a little more secret about how they're doing things

and taking a slower approach. So, but I, you know, I think Steve Bannon is correct. If conservatives are going to hold power in the United States, these people that are here undocumented that it came over the border through the Biden administration have to go home, all of them. That's a quote from him. Well, Bannon's right about that. You know, there's another aspect of this that doesn't get talked about nearly enough. The firings have already started occurring with AI layoffs.

You know what I'm getting at here? Yep. And ultimately, the United States Empire is not going to need nearly as much of these individuals coming from Guatemala, Venezuela, whatever, as one might think. Now, there are certain jobs. Yeah, the physical jobs are still going to have to be done. But it's not going to pencil long term. I mean, just having more dependents coming in is not going to work for whatever.

reason. And that's why the Trump administration is spending so much time and money exposing all of this, all of this, you know, the Somalia and the billions of dollars and all this corruption. Yeah. And how about $30 million net worth of Elon Omar? And of course, I'm sure that her, I'm sure that her hubby, Finanid's here, hubby, had no congressional insider information to make that $30 million pop up. Yeah, you know, you wonder about that what Congress people, you know, because having friends over the years that were in Congress, even with the exorbitant, a lot of people call that an exorbit salary they have, by time you pay your living expenses in Washington, D.C., now their travel expenses are paid by the taxpayer. But even their living expenses because things aren't cheap back there. And by time you buy a few suits every once in a while, you might as well stay home and sell ice cream. You'd probably make more money.

Yeah, it is not a lucrative job because of the two homes. I understand that. And you're absolutely right. You're surprised how many congressmen live in their offices because they can't afford the $6,000 a month rent. Yeah. That's just how, it's just a reality back there. But then there are the Congress critters that manage to get fabulously wealthy well in office doing public service. And those questions should be pursued.

How did they do that? Was it legitimate? If it was legitimate, fine, great, wonderful. But I think the questions need to be answered. For sure. Former state senator Herman Behriguer with me. Herman, before we take off, I just had to ask a quick take. We have Chris Dudley who ended up announcing.

Of course, he's the one Republican that came within 25,000 votes, less than one percentage point of beating a Democrat. Of course, it was 16 years ago. And he entered the gubernatorial race, you know, the primary, you know, the primary race, GOOP. Any impression? I don't really know him. Well, you know, it's just going to be a really, really interesting primary. and unfortunately the Oregon Republican Party at the state level, you know, doesn't really get involved in the primaries, which they should not. And so we're just going to have this slate of people.

My hat, and I've said this before, Bill, my hat is always off to somebody that wants to run and make a difference, okay? I don't care because I know how what a pain in the butt it is to go through an election. And then once you're in office, you know, it's not easy. I'll leave it at that. So anybody left or right, anybody that is willing to take, throw their hat in there, I salute them. Well, my question about Chris, though, is a pro-choice guy. And that doesn't fit real well in most of the GOP. And yet he's the one that came closest to vanquishing and getting rid of the Democrats

and the governor's office. Are we at that point now where, you know, a pure, hardcore pro-lifers not going to really matter statewide? I can't remember that primary. I can't remember that primary that he was in real clearly and who he was up against. I just can't. You know, I can't remember that. The pro-choice thing, you know, that has been a divider between Republicans and Democrats for eons, and that's why it's on the issue every year all the time. Yeah, and it's not unusual. You'd be surprised the number of Republicans I know behind the scenes that will never come on and talk about it personally, but they'll be personally pro-choice. They really are pro-choice. And it's not a unanimous. thing, but for party politics, it's pretty unanimous, isn't it? Usually. Absolutely. It is, it's a dividing point. That's why it's constantly brought up all the time, all the time. And, you know,

I am, I am not a pro-choice person, you know, and so I was always confronted with that. And I would just, if somebody asked me, where am I on abortion? I would just say, I'm not into killing baby. Well, the other aspect of it, though, is that even if you're governor, you'll probably won't have any real sway in making that not happen. I mean, it's too popular in Oregon, isn't it? Yes, it is. It's too, it's, so our governor has some bills for the short session coming up next week that will prevent ICE from conducting the raids in Oregon. Can you believe that? Yes, I do. I mean, the Democrats in Oregon are always on the wrong side of the law.

I don't understand that. Well, I saved this article. It was K2. We talked about a little earlier this morning, Herman. And Julie Fahey, you know, Speaker of the House, saying that, yes, we're making sure that local law enforcement is focused on keeping local communities safe, in other words, foreign nationals that are not supposed to be here, and not on fulfilling the responsibilities of the federal government. Okay, so she doesn't want to help fulfill the responsibilities of the federal government. Well, I hope that the federal government finds a way that it will stop fulfilling any kind of responsibility

to pay the state of Oregon for its nonsense in any department. Grandstream funding, as far as I concerned, lock away every penny. That's what I would say. Well, it's just, you know, they're just on the wrong side. You know, that's, I mean, that's my opinion, but I mean, they have passed statutes in this state lowering the penalties for violent crime. Yep. They have passed statutes in this state, lowering the penalties or eliminating the penalties for drug use. And they have passed statutes in this state, tying the hands of law enforcement, weakening the probation.

systems. And they're just on the wrong side of law. And if you don't have law, so then you don't have anything. You just don't. And, you know, doing this, she is so happy that she is, her and Dan Rayfield are coming up. And I'm like, how do you pass the law saying that the federal government can't use the federal law and enforce it in a state? I'm just, I don't. I don't I think there's any, I mean, they could pass it all they want, and I think it'll get smacked down. I would also add that President Trump has been talking about wanting to eliminate sanctuary state action. And I think there's only one way that could be done. They can't directly say, hey, you have to help us here.

But what they could do is actually pass legislation that would say all benefits, all benefit programs, federal benefit programs are all contingent. And this is something passed by Congress. then I think they would probably pass constitutional and a court muster. But you're either helping us out, non-sanguary state, or you're not getting to it. That's all there is to it. That's the only thing that I, it's the only hammer that I think would work with Tina Kotech. The other thing I don't understand is how come law enforcement officers, whether they're

city police or county sheriffs or whatever, how come they haven't come out? Because I know it bothers them. It bothers them. Well, yeah, it may bother them, but you know what bothers them more? Risking the PERS pension, okay? Yeah, you're probably right. It's always about the money, okay? Right. So, hey, have you seen who Kotech has now has moved on for an appointment with the Senate to take over the state forestry?

Well, I heard it was a female. It was a female. Her name is Casey, KC. Casey, KC. Okay, great. Her last name are the initials, capital K, capital C. Uh-huh. She was the forester for the state of Nevada.

How did she do as the forester of Nevada, this KCKC? Under her administration, they lost $30 million from the feds because they didn't appropriately build back firefighting costs. She's the perfect person. She's the perfect DE hire for Tina Kotech. Perfect. Right. Yes.

Yes, I would say that my feeling is it's a DEI hire. And so only in the state of Oregon, I mean, you know, as many businesses that are leaving the state because of grocery seats tax and other things. And our governor is still doing the same old thing. Isn't that the definition of stupidity doing the same old thing? Well, there has different results. There has been no political penalty for her to be stupid. So we'll see where that goes, Herman.

I got to go, but I'll catch you next week, all right? Hey, Bill, one more short quote. All right, what's that? What's that? To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell them the truth. Good point. Who did that quote?

Is that yours? Is that an original? A Herman original? No, that's not a Herman quote, but I'll let you look it up and you can figure out who said it. We'll do. Thank you, Herman. All right. Thanks.

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