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Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Greg Roberts from Rogue Weather Dot Com on the Outdoor report, local TV reporting and other issues, some open phones near the end of the hour

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Myers. Delighted you are here. It is 14 minutes after 7. Outdoor Report. On Monday for the next few weeks here, well, Greg Roberts, Mr. Outdoors over at RogueWeather.com,

is busy doing some outdoor shows. And, yeah, you've got those busy weekends, right? You're going to be, like, traveling, heading up to Eugene, heading over here, heading over there, that kind of thing. It's that time of year, right, Greg? Welcome back. Yeah, it is. It's that time of the year.

But, you know, these are really fun to do, you know, and it's kind of funny to think now how far back I go with Joe Pate, the organizer of those shows. I met him when he first came to Medford and was getting that show going out at the Expo. I had actually been attempting to do something similar with the rival stations across town, but as soon as I saw what Joe had and, you know, what he brought to the table and what he had, I just took him straight back to the radio station and told the general manager there at the time, I go, we're done doing this stuff because this guy has everything that

we're just trying to be. In other words, the Joe Pate deal, they're just better shows. Now, do you get to do, are you going to be doing the Bigfoot talks like you've done in other shows in the past? Well, what we're going to do this year, it's going to kind of morph into a general outdoors theme. I'm going to blend what I had been doing, which was a separate Wolf Talk. And then we did, last year, we did the Bigfoot Town Halls, which of all the speaker presentations that they do at the shows, that one was the one that actually drew the most people and garnered the most interest. Oh, hey, man, it always moves the needle. We know about that. Because I just think not only is it just interesting from a crypto zoology you know point of view but there are many people who i've known who are very credible

individuals over the years and we're talking about uh police officers and and various other people that are you know pretty sober folks you know what i mean and they're saying oh yeah yeah we've uh you know there are you you dig deep enough and you'll find some people who said that they've seen some odd things going on in some of the woods out here. That's all there is to it. I've seen, heard, and I still maintain that there are people who've actually had Bigfoot encounters that heard things that they, you know, they just went, well, that was weird. I don't know what that sound was. They didn't really get into it and investigate it, but I know there's people listening to this right now that they heard things out in the woods that just made them go, I've never heard anything like that in my life before. And it's the hair on the back of the neck kind of moment, right?

You know, but they just, they don't want to go Bigfoot or they don't want to go there. They just really don't want to get into it because it's kind of, it's maybe more than kind of, it was probably real unsettling. But they don't want to be, well, I couldn't possibly have had a Bigfoot encounter. Well, hearing them counts as a Bigfoot encounter. And, you know, I've been very open about saying that. And it's kind of funny, I noticed now some other of your bigger names out there in the Bigfoot world. I never used to hear that before I started saying it, especially on certain podcasts and YouTube channel shows. And now I'm hearing a lot more of the quote unquote, leading Bigfoot researchers. Well, you know, what happens is that the more,

well, it kind of goes down the whole deal about JFK assassination theories, UFO, all the rest of it. The more people start talking about it, the more it becomes socially acceptable and the Overton window gets moved to where people are least willing to look at it. Like I said, and then somebody's always the first to start talking about something, and then it gets picked up on by the rest of the community. That was one that I had. I'll give you another one that I'm well aware of, and people listening to this are probably aware of the backstory on this too. Dr. Matt Johnson, he used to be, you know, a psychiatrist, you know, a counselor in Grants Pass. He and his family had that very famous Bigfoot encounter up at Oregon Caves on the Big Tree Trail. And that got a lot, and I do mean a lot, of notoriety.

And everybody knew who Matt was. And everybody had their thoughts on that. They knew he wasn't a loon. I mean, that's the main point. Well, of course, I don't know. I mean, you can be a doctor and still be crazy, though. I shouldn't say that. Yeah, you can.

And Matt's a friend. And for as much as I know the guy and I really, truly like the guy, he's gotten off onto some things that you know I'm kind of still having a real difficult time wrapping my head around that and going with him but there was one thing he definitely started talking about that I'm like oh well I don't know about this because I've never had any direct thing happen with me out in the woods with them where I'd go, well, that's true. Matt was the very first one I ever heard talk about cloaking. And cloaking is this ability for them to basically be invisible, but they're very there and very present.

That's very interesting. Now, one of the more interesting theories was with a ufologist that I spoke to a number of weeks ago named L.A. Marzulli. I don't know if you've ever read any of his work. I remember listening to that show. Yeah, but he says that he thinks that the Bigfoot are Nephilim. In other words, the fallen angels left behind, that kind of thing. He's looking at it from a biblical perspective. I thought that was an intriguing theory, but we'll see.

Well, like I said, Matt was the first one I heard talk about cloaking and I was just kind of, well, you know, and I puzzled on that for years. But then over the course of time, all of a sudden, everybody and their dog, it seems like out there in the community, boom, here's all these people talking about cloaking, which by the way, includes Les Stroud. And Les, who is a part-time resident in Josephine County, told me personally and directly about his cloaking experience. And Les is fully on board with it. Well, I still haven't had it happen directly to me that I am aware of.

But, you know, you start getting more and more people out there in the community start talking about these different things. Well, I'll tell you what, you know what would be really impressive, though, is that I just want the cloaking device or the cloaking ability so I can just sneak home at night, you know, that kind of thing, you know. Yeah, you know. Late night at the bar. I will give some credit to Expedition Bigfoot, which is a blatant ripoff on what Finding Bigfoot did.

But Expedition Bigfoot actually finally did really take a run from a purely scientific point of view. University of Washington and explained how the cloaking idea may actually work based on other creatures we see in nature that can cloak. And octopus was the first thing that the guy went to, and then they showed some great video examples of an octopus basically morphing itself in its color, in its appearance, to everything it was around and on to where that thing basically disappeared and you couldn't even see it. That is really interesting because you're right. I have watched an octopus on documentaries do that or octopi you know do that that is fascinating so maybe these are just uh you know long-time abilities that have either died out or are uh wouldn't it be interesting if it is a latent human capability huh wouldn't that be interesting who knows what it actually is you know i mean deer and elk hunters every single one of us has had instances where we swear we're looking at these deer and elk,

and all of a sudden it's like they just, poof, disappeared. Well, that'll be interesting, no doubt. I'm not going to say they're cloaking. I don't misunderstand. I'm just saying there's times even with deer and elk that it's just like, where did they go? Yeah, agreed. Greg Roberts here with me, MrOutdoorsForRogueWeather.com. All right, so you're going to be doing that. What's your first store, or not store, the first show you're going

to be doing? First show's this coming weekend in Eugene. We're at the Lane County Fairgrounds starting on Friday, going through Sunday, and the shows are always Friday through Sunday. The Friday shows will open at noon. Saturday and Sunday both open at 10. But we go noon to 10 on Friday. Then we go 10 a.m. to 9 p.m. on Saturday. And then Sundays are pretty typically 10 a.m. to 5 p.m., except Roseburg. The Roseburg show hits on Super Bowl Sunday, so we're only doing the show until 3. Yeah, yeah, everyone wants to get away from that one pretty quickly, I would imagine.

All right, so how dry are we going to be, and how wet will we get, given that we have some shower activity supposedly coming by the end of the week and i know and as far as the weather right now it's about as cold as it gets here this week it's more what starts developing next week and i'm going to be putting more information up about that on road weather but we are definitely going to see a significant change in our pattern that much we know is going to happen. We're going to move back into a very stormy, wet, and much cooler pattern in terms of having rain and then the snow levels.

And the snow levels, that's the part we're still trying to work out. Right now, it appears that through the weekend, snow levels will still be that 4,000, 4,500 foot range, which would not have any impact for I-5. But that's at this point. The other side of it is through the weekend, we're just expecting light precipitation. So even if snow levels hit I-5, Siskiyous, around Mount Shasta, I don't think it's a major travel problem. But when you get into next week, that first full week of February, and especially the first weekend in February, when I'm going to be headed to Roseburg. It looks like that might be a little bit different scenario, and we could be seeing snow impact for I-5 developing,

certainly for Siskiyou Summit and down around Mount Shasta. Will it get to the quad passes between Grants Pass and Canyonville? We just don't know yet. That's still a little bit too far out, but we know we're definitely going to turn back into that stormy pattern. And I remember saying about a month ago when we knew we were going to hit that pause here this month, I said, historically, what has always happened is we're going to hit this break period in January, and then winter is going to come roaring back. It has historically, for as far back as I can remember, and as far back as has been documented, and it's going to do it again this year. It's looking like, you know, so... Miracle March, I think, is the term you came up, or that you were talking about, right?

Oh, yeah. Miracle March. We were talking about how, you know, with this late-developing La Nina, what you can see happen sometimes is you get these incredible series of storms hit in March, and you can literally wind up getting almost a winter's worth of rain-slash-snow within the month of March. And I gave the example of what happened at Mount Ashland a few years back, about 10 years ago, where they got more snow in March than they had seen in the entire winter to that point. Interesting. So, Greg, that's what we'll be looking for. Then some other things we want to mention before we then take off, that would be get your hunting report in for it, because I guess you have until, what is it, Friday is the last day?

Midnight at Friday night, you can report online, you can call in, but if you're a deer or elk hunter, regardless of whether you were successful or not, you still, it's mandatory, you have to report. If you don't, I mean, it's not the worst thing in the world unless you just don't like parting with 25 bucks, because if you don't like parting with $25. Because if you don't, when you go to get your licenses, actually, when you get your license next year, however you do it, you're going to pay $25 more if you didn't report. So just, you know, it's mandated. Get it done. done if you were successful on deer and elk and you took it to a local butcher to get it processed believe me they already know you were successful so you really better make sure you're reporting

all right hey the other thing i was going to ask um we were talking about the kdrv the allen media group uh getting rid of the meteorologist and it sounds like just as we were talking about that they were reversing course on that. So they decided against it. They're going to keep the weather guy, the mob weather forecaster? Right. And, you know, Matt Hoffman and I had been communicating last week about what was going on.

I totally missed Matt's post Thursday evening saying, Alan changed their mind. Alan changed their mind. Well, that was no doubt, though, because there was a lot of noise, a lot of noise being made. Yeah, and they were just getting crushed. Believe me, they're going to be cutting staff. There's going to be changes happening. Some of that's already happened. But when 70% of the people surveyed who say they're still watching local news say their biggest reason for watching local news is the local weather, you probably shouldn't be eliminating local weather when drawing eyeballs to your station is a big enough challenge already. I've noticed that already they've been having some people coming in from KEZI, the Eugene affiliate for them. And I think their anchor, their afternoon anchor then has been doing some headlines

and things like that, even in the local. I wonder if that's where we're going to see these changes and the cost cutting that goes on. I'm just speculating. Believe me, even though they're keeping their local weather teams at KDRV and KECI, oh, there's definitely going to be changes happening elsewhere. It's already been happening. And that was probably other than the outrage of, you know, Matt here in Medford and Holden up in Eugene, the two chief meteorologists losing their jobs. The other outrage that I saw a lot of was people going, you know, and they totally changed. And

now they do this and they do all this regional stuff and they never talk about what's going on here. Because Eugene's the bigger area. Eugene has more people, it's going to get the better coverage. And, you know, the handwriting's on the wall. Nothing changes, really, from anything else we said about the status of TV other than they grew a brain and realized, well, we can probably start cutting other areas, but maybe we better not cut the local weather teams. Yeah, maybe not. Hey, do you know where Matt's from, or where Matt comes from, Matt Hoffman, meteorologist there?

I'm not off the top of my head, no. He is definitely not a local homegrown guy. Well, the reason I bring this up, though, is every time I see him, I'm taken back to when I went and saw the play years ago in Vegas, Jersey Boys. You know, he kind of reminds me of reminds me of the look of the Jersey Boys, like he'd be in the four-season kind of singing group, like a boy group or something like that. I don't know why.

Honestly, the last meteorologist on TV I can think of here in Medford that I'm like, okay, that's basically your hometown guy, Scott Lewis. Yeah, he was the last one, wasn't it? Yeah. Of course, I don't know. You have over on Kobe. What about Kevin Lawless? Well, okay.

Kevin would be a hometown guy. But I mean, quite honestly, unless he's done something I'm not aware of, he isn't a degreed meteorologist. He did the TV school thing through Mississippi State, where Mississippi State started a separate credential program for people who were going to be TV weather people, that they could go through a program and then get certified. But it's definitely not a degreed meteorologist. Matt Hoffman is. Holden LaCroix is. That's probably the biggest change I saw happen in TV over the years. It used to be when I worked at KCRA in Sacramento, when I was with KTVL here, people doing weather on TV really weren't meteorologists. It's just, hey, that was another opportunity to be on the air and be better.

And there were people who didn't know a darn thing about weather jumping on and becoming weather people because it got them on the air. So actually it's got a little more stringent over the years is what you're telling me. Exactly. It has. And the Weather Channel really changed the game. And, you know, they started demanding more out of the people who were going to be doing weather. Betty Vasquez, when I was at KCRA in Sacramento. Betty Vasquez was the lead, quote, weather meteorologist for KCRA, number one newscast in Sacramento and number one in Northern California outside of the Bay Area. Betty didn't know the first thing about weather. She didn't have a clue i would sit in her prep room and where she put her makeup on and she get everything put together for doing the weather and i would sit with her and i would literally

coach her through all this weather stuff while i worked at ktvl i had times where i did that with kevin lawless i had times where i did that with Kevin Lawless. I had times where I did that with Demi DeSoto. Okay, all right. Not nearly as much as I did with Benny. All right, see, now you're sounding kind of braggadocious, though. Okay? Well, no, I'm just saying, I'm trying to illustrate the point. TV, oh, I'm not trying to be braggadocious.

I'm trying to talk about where it used to be with TV weather. We had funeral directors here in Medford that did the weather on KOBI for years. Really? So Leon's at KTVL. Believe me, Conger, Morris, people old enough who grew up here in this valley know it. No kidding. Undertakers, funeral directors doing the weather on KOBI. Well, that makes it easy then. You can say, okay, we're all going to die someday.

Well, to this day, if you know where to look in Shady Cove, you drive through Shady Cove, there is this big, huge thermometer thing. And on it, it says Conger Morris, your local weatherman, and a KOBI logo. And it would show you the temperature supposedly supposedly, in Shady Cove. All right. I love that, Greg. Greg, that is great local color. I'm going to have to look for that.

You know, the one thing we are missing, though, is back when Ron Matthews and I were doing mornings on KBOY. I don't know whatever happened to the weather rock that we put up there. It's still there to this day. The weather rock's still there? Yes. Where? It's sitting right in front of the building. Oh, it's not hanging up any longer, huh? No, no, they got a big rock, and it sits right in front of the building. Oh, no, no. It's even more hilarious when you see if the rock's moving, it's a tornado. Yeah, exactly. Well, Ron, though, Ron and I, you know, did that back in the early 90s, in which we did that, in which we put the pumice. It was a pumice ball, right, a big ball of pumice rock.

And if it's swinging, it's windy. If it's wet, it's raining. If there's ice on it, it's an icy day. You know, that kind of thing. That's how we did our weather. And as the late Ron Santos, the Ewok of rock, right up until his very last days on KBLY, which is well into the 2000s, was still doing the KBLY weather rock weather forecast. I got to love it. Hey, Greg. Now, I didn't mean to be braggadocious.

I was just trying to state the changes in what we've seen. So Matt Hoffman, Holden LaCroix, much higher level in terms of knowledge, degreed meteorologist. Scott Lewis, much higher level of weather knowledge, meteorologist. The pendulum swung because of the Weather Channel when it was the original Weather Channel with its original owner. And now I think most of your people that are doing weather on TV, especially if they say chief meteorologist, they really are meteorologists. All right. Very good. Good to know. Thanks for the update. And we'll fall on our sword a little bit from the Friday talk. But you have a great week. Enjoy the show in Eugene. And tell us next Monday how that went and what

we're looking for. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. You know, it's always great to go to these shows. There are people that I genuinely love and just love to see and be around. Obviously, Joe and his staff that do the shows, but some of the exhibitors there that our lives are so crazy that about the only real chance we get to see each other is these shows. So looking forward to that and may pick up some great things that we'll be sharing in the outdoor reports on mondays uh the weeks ahead because of what we i learned at the outdoor shows all right very good greg roberts once again at rogueweather.com greg we always appreciate it take care we'll talk a week from now all right 7 37 7 37 kmed 99 3 kbxg is where you are waking up with the bill meyer show by the way outdoor report this uh for the next few weeks, is going to be Monday.

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At Skypark, we make insurance easy. Should you trust your drink? 7-0 KMED. 21 before 8, 7-7-0-5-6-3-3. And it's open phones for the rest of this hour. We've had a lot we've been talking about. Trump's schooling like a boss. There are other people frustrated about what they think is going on in our local public schools.

Had a gentleman call a little while ago. He says, what is this about? Do we not have uh you know mandatory reporters maybe there's more of that going on than we thought not that the michael williams situation is about mandatory reporting i haven't had any evidence of that but uh transparency transparency transparency well you know what happens these days though everything gets hidden around well it's a personnel issue. Isn't that the other thing you hear a lot?

We'd like to tell you about what this scum bucket did in their particular government job, but it's a private personnel matter. I don't know about that. But we can certainly talk about that or anything else on your mind, too, this Monday. All right. It is chilly, 19 degrees, about as cold as it's been around here. Coldest day, by the way, so far this winter from what it's looking like. This is the Bill Myers Show. Right back after news and your calls.

An intelligent solution. MED. Hi, I'm Stephen with Stephen Westwell Rippening. And I'm on KMED. And we appreciate you being on KMED and 99.3 KBXC, wherever you happen to be. Open phones, 770-5633. What is it? Gosh, we've got Eagles.

Eagles and KC Chiefs. All right. When there's not Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl, I don't care, which means I haven't cared about the Super Bowl in a long time. I don't care about football, generally speaking, but at least the Super Bowl with the Steelers would make me sit up and pay a little more attention. But I don't live in that world, I guess. I don't know if Crazy Gene lives in that world or not either.

How you doing, Gene? Welcome back. All right. Yeah, I was calling about that flashlight I've seen on the commercials. Uh-huh. You could see a light beam two miles away. You could shine it right on the side of a building or something. And I watched him start a campfire with that by just shining the light on it.

There was so much light. It's like a mini sun. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What do they call it? Is it photonic power or whatever he says on the ad, right? Yeah, that's pretty amazing there. They might be making heaters out of that soon. Yeah, well, the thing being, though,

is that they've gotten to the point where there is such amazing light coming out of LED lights, especially, and then you couple that with a pretty big lithium-ion rechargeable battery in there, a lot of current output from that. You can get a lot. In fact, I even know, a pretty big lithium ion rechargeable battery in there, a lot of current output, you know, from that. You can get a lot. In fact, I even know I have one of these O-lights.

You know me, I'm the flashlight whore, right? Yeah, me too. Yeah, so I got a bunch of these things. And so I have my little O-light here, and you turn it up. Let's see if I can go on. If I put it on turbo and I put it by my hand, my hand gets hot. I mean, darn hot after a little while. I can burn myself pretty easily.

So, yeah. They do. They generate a lot of heat. Now, on the other hand, other than doing Doge, have you noticed how many spam emails that come in about, Elon Musk will heat your house for like $19.99, he'll give you a free heater or something like that? Have you seen those ones coming in?

No, I haven't seen that. Yeah, I'd like $19.99 over $400. Oh, I know. As if Elon Musk's heater, of course, you know that someone's just ripping off his image and doing this. So many scams. So many scams. Okay, but don't let that photonic flashlight or whatever it is set your house on fire, okay? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'll hold it next to my hand so I can see through it in a minute. There you go. There you go. The photonic light bulb. The lightsaber. That's the lightsaber, right? That kind of thing. Gregory's in Shady Cove. Hey, Gregory, what's on your mind today, huh? Well, thank you for being Monday.

Indeed. And my question and statement might be earlier talking to David, and then you were going to talk. I got two points. You were going to talk about mechanics or something. So that would be the second point. Oh, I was just asking him what I was doing wrong. I was trying to bleed my brakes over the weekend on the Vanagon, and I drove the Vanagon in this morning. And I still, it's not a soft pedal, but it's a longer pedal travel than I would like.

And so I'm doing something wrong, and I was going to ask him since he's a mechanic by trade interesting thank you and then also i'm wondering about this about that not necessarily school reporting or something like that but i'm wondering do they still have possibly the that rifle type stuff target shooting i remember a few years ago quite a few years ago at the gun range it has them like pros come by there and have target shooting and show gun, like six shooters. Are they ever planning on having that back in Jackson County? I don't know. I haven't seen anything.

That would be something to ask Phil Gramatica over at, because he helps manage the public range out in White City where they would tend to do that. Phil Gramatica. And hopefully Greg will start telling us maybe where we could actually buy some good fish if we're not catching any. Hopefully we can catch some, though. Gregory, I appreciate the call.

Thanks for that. Let me go next on the open phones this Monday. Hi, good morning. And who is this? Hello? Phil, this is Brad. Brad, how you doing? That's who I am.

Good to hear from you. What's up? Hey, man, your interview with Greg brought up something I never would have anticipated. What's that? The whole octopus thing. Yeah. You know, we've seen that on national TV just recently. We have? Yeah, Sonny Hostin on national TV just recently. We have? Yeah, Sunny Hostin.

On The View. Okay. All of a sudden, she disappeared against the background. Good riddance. Yeah, that's all it takes, right? That hurt my feelings. Yeah, pretty detestable individual in my view. I'm with you.

Oh, my God. What a disgusting human. You know the part that gets me? Who are the people watching that show you ever wonder that you know one other quick item because i'm slavine we now are seeing a real slavinian step up her name's melania trump she's levied a hundred100 million lawsuit against The View. Oh, she has? Oh, yeah. You don't want to mess with that girl.

And she's all... Well, if she wins, will she put it into the Melania cryptocurrency or whatever it is? Because Trump and Melania coins were dropped shortly before the inauguration. Well, she'll just probably buy really good clothes. She's a hell of a dresser. Oh, yeah. Yeah, although that Hamburglar hat of a few days ago was the one rare misfire on her part. You think so?

Yeah, yeah. I thought she looked pretty cool in that. Yeah, well, you know, rabble, rabble, rabble. Secret between you and me, my family's from the same town she grew up from in Novo Misto in Slovenia. And believe it or not, I have her legs. When I wear nylons, I'm a dead ringer.

Okay. Hey, well, you know, there's nothing wrong with that these days. In fact, that would get you a government job in a hurry. No, I get enough attention as it is. All right. Well, I'll bet you do. Oh, my gosh. Thank you you brad let me go to line four hi good morning it's open phones and this is bill and who might you be i might be

deplorable patrick in fact i think i am and this is what you get for having open phones all right dp happy to have you on what's on your mind well great uh this This Pandora's box of having illegals work here, we have farmers to thank for that. They got it started. It didn't end there, but it's just a miserable idea because the culture, it's not about race, it's about culture. And it's about what people's ideas are right and wrong or not acceptable and not acceptable and things like that. And this is not working. I really want to mention something along these lines that I heard on KMED. I don't know if you remember. It's a good 10 years ago. Somebody called in and they were talking about that some lady had an operation, a cabinet shop or a small mill or something like that.

And he goes to visit and she's showing him her operation. And he says, you've got all Mexicans working here. Why is that? And she says, well, the Mexicans just make it so miserable for the gringos that they just quit. So then they know their cousin Alfredo will bring him. But Bob quit. I don't know why Bob quit. Of course, they made it miserable for him so that he felt like he had to quit.

But their cousin will come right now. He's a good, hard worker. So what are we doing? They're just pushing us out. And I think that's an unacceptable one aspect of it. I don't know if that's always true, though, because there's a reason the Eisenhower administration had the Bracero program in which people were brought in to do the agricultural work. But, of course, it was also very strict.

If I recall correctly that you had to go back, it wasn't one of those things where you stayed inside. You didn't stay inside the country as you were waiting for it. I mean, it's truly for the migrant farm workers, and it seemed to work pretty well. And so there must be a reason why a lot of migrants were willing to come and do the farm work in those days, because obviously American kids weren't. Am I wrong? Well, I don't remember being invited to pick lettuce as a kid, but I did do other things, worked in a restaurant but uh i will say that one thing leads to another and oh yeah they're going to come up here and pick the crops and then go back and then well you know it's a long way back and we've got a we can put a

little house here for you and you wouldn't have to go back and forth why don't you just stay here and one thing leads to another and then bring your kids and put your kids in the local public school system, et cetera. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It just incrementally just creeps. All right. Thanks for the call.

DPP 7705633. Dangerous time. Open phones. I take all comers. We'll just talk about whatever. Hi. Good morning. Who's this?

Hey, Bill. Is that me? Hey, man. How you doing? Good to hear from you. I'm good. Hey, what do you think about the – is this a pinprick or a bubble pop over on the S&P this morning? Or the NASDAQ, rather. Pardon me.

One of the funny things about the market is that a thing happens and that they come in afterward and say, this is the reason that the market sold off today today i would actually say well a couple of things one you have to figure out whether or not this new ai coming out of china is all a lie um apparently the technology is not a lie because some people have commented who are, I would say, legit. And I said, yeah, it's pretty amazing what they're doing with these. Yeah. And it appears that what they did was they did a workaround for not having access to

the NVIDIA chips. And so they found a way to write the computer code to be very efficient and not require big chips and, you know, big dollars. I think more importantly, That's the big part. So everything comes down to confidence. And that's everything. It's whether it's sports or investing, it's all the same thing. It's confidence. And so the first thing I do is when I see something like this, I saw this last night around 10, because I'm always looking at the overnight trading in the futures,

the stock futures markets, just to get an idea. And there wasn't much out there in regards to news stories last night. So a few things jumped out at me. One, yeah, the NASDAQ is down 2.3%. It was down much more. It's down 469. It was down, I guess, close to 1,000 points last night. The S&P, which plays into this also, is down a percent and a half it was down much more overnight the semiconductor index is down seven percent that's where most that when you would figure that's where most of it's going to be hit right most of the hit will come that the nose the nosebleed valuations of nvidia right that kind of thing right right? That kind of thing. Right, right. And that's actually come down a ton, you know, recently. So the issues were for that and also for energy. So do we not need all the

energy that these corporations, because they're all on board with nuclear, all of them, all that, that comes into play. But my foundational belief in investing is China, China lies. Yeah. as much as they say it costs to do it. And is it gonna be effective long term in regards to other aspects of things? I don't believe anything that comes out of China. I would venture to say that the Chinese government and some of its sovereign funds were shorting the S&P and the NASDAQ. And then they will profit then

with Nvidia's hurting today, that sort of thing, right? Yep. They basically have this release, and it comes in after they've massively shorted into a big rally. And then they'll ride this and take advantage of it. And so I think that's partly in play today. Is there any way that you can look and see what the short interest was on NVIDIA?

Can you do that? Not on the fly here. It's not something that I normally watch. Oh, okay. I'm thinking that this is something, look, after 9-11, they found out there were a lot of... Yeah, there were a lot of shorts on the airlines industry that they couldn't track, right? Well, they did track the sovereign wealth fund coming from the middle east but of course well yeah exactly uh and so insiders within the uh within the power structure that well well kind

of like uh you know the paul pelosi's of the world it's you know amazing how much money that guy has managed to make i mean he's that good of a stock picker i'm surprised he never uh opened up his own brokerage aren't you just amazing why just amazing. Why would he? Why would he? Why would you go through all the trouble and regulation and hassle if you don't have to and you can make the same money? Here, let me throw one more thing at this. So I'm looking at everything. You look at the Dow, not just the S&P, but I look at the transportation index. It's up almost 1% today. Railroads, trucking companies. I told you before, the thing that I care the most about is the real economy. And I'm not saying that AI is not.

These other things are not. But we've been kind of faked out to think that AI was the economy. Were we not? I know. I know. And so what I've said is, and there's also a thing called rotation, which I'm sure you know the term. And that's when particular segments of the market get overvalued. And then the money sort of says, yeah, we've made a lot of money here.

Let's rotate into these other things that haven't rallied quite as much. So the Dow Jones, the Russell 2000 is down 0.3%. It actually was flat here. Yeah, that's the small cap, the Russell 2000 is down 0.3%. It actually was flat here. Yeah, that's the small cap, small startups, right? That kind of thing. Well, not startups. I mean, some of these companies have been around for decades. But it is smaller cap companies.

They have a micro, Russell has a micro index also with really, really small companies. But, so I don't know. I'm looking at the whole picture. And honestly, you know, they're all trading near their highs of the day. So there becomes the shock and awe when the news is released, and then throughout the next day or the trading days that follow, they say to themselves, okay, and I'm talking about just the indices right now. What's the real impact uh-huh i think this is going to take this is going to take a few days to actually uh to watch because i will agree with you that china lies but if they're not lying about deep seek and i'm seeing some really knowledgeable

tech bros that are saying hate to say it but this is real that is a game changer. You know, if you don't need the big wind farms or the big energy farms, if you don't need to replace all of your servers, all that kind of stuff, that's a huge, huge game changer in the AI world. Ask yourself this question, Bill. Yeah. Then why was Meta and Alphabet, Google? Why is Amazon, because more of their, you know, they gave up with super precise or super precision on AI, this version, this deep seek. They gave up on the hyper precision for, I think it's like 40, 45 times less memory and power requirements in CPU, processing power required. I think it was a compromise

you know well what it is is they want to compete on the low end this is what china does yeah what tick tock is right they compete on the low end and and so what they do is they want market share yeah they're not concerned about being on the high end they want market share that's what they do with all and that might be what we're looking at here, too. But even then, that is a democratization of AI power. It certainly is. All right. If that's true, if it's true, if it ends up being the way many tech pros are talking about it. Okay. Yeah. Yep. All right. Appreciate the call. Thanks for that. If you are on hold, I will get right to you. 770-5633. We'll be right back. This is theyer show kmed 99.3 kbxg go to these businesses okay freddy's diner has lots of family favorites on the dinner menu and their drive so happy

you're hearing the bill meyer show on 1063 kmed kmed and kmed hd1 eagle point medford kbxg cranch pass open phone time let me go to tracy Hello, Tracy from Mount Vernon. Good to have you on. Yeah, good morning here. I just wanted to add in and congratulate the Medford people on being able to keep another local meteorologist having to, you know, give a different perspective. There's a contributor to the Lars Larson Show. Perhaps many of your listeners may recognize the name uh from up north the guy's name is chuck wise talks a lot about global warming and he's an ex uh uh airline pilot and also before that he was a meteorologist and his claim to fame was and i was in the control room

at channel six at the time of this touring and i every on the weekends in portland he was the local meteorologist the thing was chuck was he started at the age of 12 really yes and by the time he was 16 he was you know top notch and it was not a you know not some sort of a producer executive dreamed up you know seem to attract viewers The kid knew what he was doing back then. And he went on to... He had a particular set of skills, right? Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

It was really good. And he even got to appear on To Tell the Truth, that game show from many years ago. Great background. The kid's a meteorologist. Great background. There you go. Thank you very much, Tracy. I appreciate that. Let me go to Randy. Randy's in Ash background. There you go. Thank you very much, Tracy.

I appreciate that. Let me go to Randy. Randy's in Ashland. How you doing, Randy? Oh, I'm doing fine. What's on your mind? Well, you keep, and this is a trend, I keep hearing 45 times less.

How can 45 times be less? Well, it's not. It's like 1 45th, if you want to call it that. There you go. Thank you. It's just one of those pet peeves. Yeah, I know. I know.

I know. All right. So where are you going now? Oh, that I just you just said it again. You started the show talking about the AI using 45 times less the electricity and all this. Yeah, that was how that was how the story. Yeah, you're right. And technically you should be higher.

But yeah, you're right. I mean, I'll get that to you. But that's also the way the article I was quoting was putting it. Right. But it's not just you. I hear it all the time in commercials. And the language is just being mangled so badly. Maybe we could put it this way, 45 times more efficient.

How about that? There you go. All right. Happy now? I am. All right, good. What else is on your mind here, Randy? Oh, good grief.

I wish people understood how climate works, and carbon dioxide has absolutely nothing to do with it, but you can't convince people of that. It's the big lie, and if the lie is big enough and repeated often enough, people start regarding it as the truth. It is indeed faith-based science, my friend. It's akin to a religion, really, what we're looking at right now. Exactly. All right. Thank you for that call. Let me go to Ron. Ron's a GP.'s like it's akin to a religion really what we're looking at right now exactly all right thank you for that call let me go to ron ron's and gp hello ron go ahead good good morning thank you for having your program so we can all have our two cents worth in here um i want to talk two things um first off i want to talk about the family and basic uh follow-up of doing good the way we used to in the past,

and secondly, on AI real quickly. But what I'm looking forward to, we can't really recover from where we're at until we get the family back to where it was, where you're homeschooled, where you have morals and ethics and you read the Constitution, you do all that kind of thing, because the core of our society is based upon good work ethic, being honest, respecting other people's rights and property. Now, how do you propose that those good morals will make a return? What do you think, Ron? Well, I base it upon the history that we've had 240 years or so and how our founding fathers had all of the work ethic and work hard. You know, they would do whatever they did to make a whole society functional.

Now we have kids and people who are waiting for government's handout and they're waiting for the new cell phone and this. So they're not really thinking. They don't have critical. How do you think that path forward looks? Well, you know, it's kind of like the circle of life and death on societies. Does that mean we have to have death of a society before there can be a rebirth in this case, you think, or what? No, we're on life support right now, a lot of people get back to uh success and order from life support okay yeah i mean none of us have all the answers right now but you know

there's something i always wonder because there's a part of me that agrees with where where you're going on that you know there was um i don't have the bite but i i recall there was a woman on uh did you see president trump when he was at North Carolina Friday? Did you happen to know? No, I just saw clips of it. Yeah, I only saw some clips of it, but there was a clip, but I haven't been able to find it. There was one woman that – not the main woman that was talking for a while, but there was another woman that talked. It was complaining about, well, she got $41,000 from FEMA.

And I think it was $41,000. Correct me if I'm wrong. If anybody knows, if they saw it and they understand what I'm talking about. But you said, what am I supposed to do with $41,000 was the statement, right? Yeah, that's hardly a start on my house. Yeah, and I get that. But when did FEMA exist to replace your home if you know because all the rest of us have to normally have in some form of insurance or something to cover a massive uh catastrophe

like that what it's up to the federal government to you know to rebuild your home everywhere i don't get that ron well it's the old slide the old slide technique where they take a little more, a little more, a little more. Pretty soon they're doing things they shouldn't be doing. And so one last thing before we trail off here. On the AI issue, people have to have power in order to carry on their everyday lives. If AI comes in and they want to consume and take what exists in the form of power resource, then everybody's going to suffer into brownouts and blackouts. My belief is that anybody who wants to do AI must have their own nuclear or other form of power generation so their servers can have whatever they need,

and they just expand on that with their own dollar. We'll just have to see what goes on with this DeepSeek deal, because DeepSeek may be one of those things where the you know the chinese uh open source software uh doesn't need the power for the cpu power maybe we'll need the energy forms i don't know good call there thank you 10 minutes after 8 7705633 if you are on hold i will get to you a little bit before dr powers joins in or of the bill meyers show is sponsored by Fontana Roofing. For roofing gutters and sheet metal services, visit fontanaroofingservices.com. The Fontana Roofing crews are very observant in their... Hey, we have roared up to 20. 20 degrees.

Yay for us. All right, Tom's in trail. Tom, I'll bet it's cold where you are. How you doing? I'm fine. It is cold. Yeah, I'll bet. What cold where you are. How are you doing? I'm fine. It is cold. Yeah, I'll bet. What's on your mind, huh?

I just got around to reading my 2025 January issue of National Geographic, and on page 4445, there's an article about the... An article about the what now? Oh, Tom, man, you were just getting to the good part. You still there, Tom? I am. I've had to go to speaker. Oh. Okay, so they were talking about climate what?

Give me a quick take on that. Climate dams, there's a short article on page 4445 about the removals, and it's by Molly Myers, a member of the Karuk tribe. They're all happy that the dam's gone and the river's flowing, but there's no mention of the mudflats, the toxic chemicals, or anything like that, or even if the salmon have returned yet. Well, they're claiming that they have. They've made the claim that, according to their surveillance cameras underwater, that they've been seeing these salmon return. The part that I don't know, Tom, and this is the part which is kind of an open question, is that is it possible for those returning fish that would come back normally to actually breed in those breeding areas or in those beds that are covered in clay?

I think that's probably a bigger question, not whether the fish have come back, right? The fish are going to come back anyway, aren't they? If that's their home rivers and tributaries, I assume so. But can they breathe? Yeah. Yeah. I don't really have an answer for that right now, but I'm suspicious that we're talking about fish coming back as somehow the equivalent of, oh, they're breeding, which I would imagine it might be impossible in those conditions, even though the river is certainly running

a little more clear than it used to be. I don't think those beds have been cleared out all of a sudden, but we'll see. I can't answer that right now. None of us can, I don't think. Appreciate the call. Good hearing from you in Trail. Francine, you're going to back clean up here. How are you doing?

Hey, Bill. Okay, well, AI to me is one of the worst threats that we're facing. I mean, I am really not comfortable with anything AI. First of all, there's no such thing as a machine with the capability of thinking like a human, becoming conscious, you know, cognizant or whatever. Well, I will agree with you, but it is a simulacrum. It's a simulation, but it's a very good simulation. And it's kind of like AI coming up with answers to questions.

It gets to the point where it appears to be so knowledgeable or whatever it is that it's almost like godlike in some cases. That was a key word. It appears to be so knowledgeable or whatever it is that it's almost like godlike in some in some cases that was the key word it appears to be okay see this is this has been a slow creep you know as patrick was referring to earlier and um what we really have to be careful about is the um well predict the predictive programming we have been exposed to for decades and decades, you know, the movies, all the things, you know, predictive programming. Yeah, robots bossing you around eventually, Skynet. Yeah, I mean, you know, the whole thing is to get us accustomed to the concept of certain things. So when it actually happens, it just kind of, you know, it sort of seems like.

And that there's no resistance. And so it's like, wait a minute. Well, you know, there's a part of me that... This is just a small example of this, right? If you or I were to engage in polluting the atmosphere, let's say, or polluting the ground, we would tend to be brought up on charges. And even though people really like to have their mobile internet, who said it was okay for Elon Musk to fill the sky with satellites? Yes, that's where I was getting to. Because what Elon is building is Skynet. I'm not kidding.

No, I know you're not kidding. I know you're not kidding. But getting everybody conditioned to it. And, by the way, whatever happened to all those drones? The drones vanished. I guess the Chinese said, hey, we have deep seek. We don't need the drones anymore. Is that what's going on?

Yeah, and also too many drones were causing problems with aircraft and the fires and stuff like that. Drones had to be pulled back. Yeah, I guess now we have a two-hour news cycle instead of a 24-hour news cycle. No attention span. Thank you very much, Francine. Dr. Powers is standing by. We're going to talk about a time in which

an individual who had more than a two-hour attention span. Yeah, where past meets present and a whole bunch more. Lots of news to discover. Coming up.