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Episode Date: January 29, 2025

Pebble in your shoe Tuesday calls and later Sen. Baertschiger talks the Trump resistance being TRAINED into Oregon state workers and other news of the day.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. It's a chilly 24 now at KMED and 99.3 KBXG. The Diner 62 Real American Quiz. We're talking baseball this morning. Carol, how the heck are you doing? Welcome. I'm doing fine, thanks.

You ready to win? Let's see if we can win. I know there's three other people online waiting to take you down, if you don't. Hey, U.S. Baseball Hall of Fame elected its first members tomorrow in history, January 29, 1936. U.S. Baseball Hall of Fame did it. It actually had its start in 1935, and it's a private organization based in Cooperstown called the Clark Foundation. Now, in preparation for the dedication of the Hall of Fame in 39, thought by many to be the centennial of baseball, the Baseball Writers Association of America chose the five greatest superstars of the game.

Ty Cobb, the most productive hitter. Babe Ruth, both an ace pitcher, great home run hitter. And Honus Wagner, versatile star shortstop and batting champion. Christine Mathewson had more wins than any other pitcher in Major League history, and Walter Johnson was considered one of the most powerful pitchers to have ever taken the mound. Now, through 2024, Carol, almost 21,000 players have played in Major League Baseball. Whoa. How many former players are in the hall currently so you have 21 000 players overall right how many are in the hall of fame there have been a lot of

good players i'm sure but is it a 178 b 228 c 278 d 328 or8. Or E, 378. That's all we're looking for. How many are currently in the Hall of Fame? I'll go C. You're going to go with C. You know something? It's a great day for you. This is the first time someone's won first time.

Occasionally, you pick C right in the middle, and you're right. It was 278. It's actually very difficult to be elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame comprised of 351 elected members, including 278 former Major League players, as well as 40 executives, pioneers, 23 managers, 10 umpires even in there too. And today, the Hall of Fame, 260,000 visitors per year, but yeah, only 278. It's a pretty exclusive club, wouldn't you say? Isn't that what Pete Rose is still trying to do?

Yep, he has still been held out of that. Do you think he ought to go in or not? I don't know. He's a gambler, remember? Yeah. Of course, you know, maybe even being a player is a bit of a gambling action there, too. But, yeah, that's the story. Carol, hang on.

We'll send you to Diner 62 and all the best. Hang on. This is the Bill Myers Show. Open phones here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. If there's anything which is irritating you or feeling good, either one pebble in your shoe or maybe a little soothing balm on your heel, I guess we could put it that way. 770-5633 after the head of the update. OKMED, here's Bill Meyer.

13 after 7, 770-5633. It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Anything that's on your mind, we can kick that around. Todd, what did they bring you on this morning? Todd, you wanted to talk about things you saw over at Hawthorne. And I guess this is going back to Bruce who checked in from Michigan last hour. I was talking about how 47,000 evictions were purged from the rental record, so you can't even find out about some people who are deadbeats not paying their rent.

But do you live by Hawthorne in Medford? Negative. I tend a small church a block east of that, so I go over there quite a bit. And I was over there doing some maintenance, and it's about 2.30 in the afternoon, and I'm driving past Hawthorne Park, and I see a line of about 50 or 60 homeless people. I thought, oh, what's going on here? Now, I would have to wonder, was it Stab and Wagon handing out the needles or something else? No, well, it's more of your money at work.

I just saw two tents popped up there, and they're helping process people, so I drove through the parking lot, being suspicious. And it was Access and ColumbiaCare. So Access, for those who don't know, provides food, warmth, shelter, and essential services to Jackson County low-income people. And it's a part of the Jackson County. And the other one was ColumbiaCare, which provides – it's a nonprofit. So either way you cut it, it's public funds going to subsidize this. And you said anecdotally, and I think you're absolutely correct, that the number of homeless people seems to be exploding here. Just people

you see marching around with their backpacks seems to be more and more. And I think this is my conspiracy theory day early Thursday thing. I think they're trying to transfer as many homeless people and people in need from Portland down here to expand that homeless industrial complex. Do you have any evidence to this or is it just a feel from the looks, or how do you draw that conclusion? Just by my observations, and also, we had to put up security cameras at my church years ago, and all of the businesses around our place have had to do the same thing. And it followed a cycle. During the summer, you'd see a lot of homeless people, and then during the winter, nobody, because we have harsh winters, and you could wander someplace more pleasant on a bus. You'll come back when it's nicer. And this last winter and the previous, this winter and last, an explosion of homeless activity and vandalism. And what they're doing in our neighborhood is they're accessing any kind of electrical panel on the front of your building.

So if you have lighting or anything, they'll break them off and hot wire. We've caught them with electric heaters and hot plates. I mean, they're going to, I mean, they almost started. Yes. So if they're not going to steal your bicycle, then they're going to steal your power is what they're doing. Okay. Absolutely. Is there any possibility? Now, I know that the county and the city, for that matter, have been working really hard to get people, to get the homeless out of the actual Greenway area because of the wildfire hazards of everybody hiding within that. Is there a possibility that we don't have any more than we used to, but they all used to be hanging out on the Greenway, and now they're being pushed out into the neighborhoods,

including Hawthorne? I'm just raising the possibility. Well, I think what they're doing is, and one of my, I'm a landlord too, and one of my tenants works, I won't mention the name of one of these nonprofits. They're buying up all those crummy old hotels up and down Highway 99, and they're stuffing them with the homeless. So you're not seeing them in Hawthorne Park with tents as much, but they're here. And I'm seeing them everywhere. I'm seeing them as far as West Main all the way out toward agricultural land,

just marching aimlessly with their backpacks. And they all seem to be like in their 20s and 30s on a journey, kind of like, you know, something out of Lord of the Rings. Yeah, you see it all the time. Yeah, you see quite a bit of it. It's kind of the zombie shuffle, isn't it? And let me tell you, it would be, that's a hard lifestyle.

It's not an easy lifestyle. I think we can all agree on this. So I'm not trying to be mean about it or flippant about it. But what's wrong? What do you think it is indicating is wrong? Is it the drug culture run amok or something else that has brought this? Because young people – we're not talking about young people there were jobs for young people even if it's just you're you're going to work at carl's jr

for crying out loud you know they're always begging for people well i'd love to do a survey i think the last one i heard that meant anything was one in seattle washington they started to ask the homeless where they were from about 60 of them of them were from out of state. So people are coming here for that. But I mean, I'm not heartless. I mean, I fear them, but I also have compassion. So this guy comes to the door one day, and he just knocks, and he says, do you have any water? And I said, sure, we have some, you know, bottled water. Here's some water. And someone had donated a bunch of Harry and David's pears and apples. I said, would you like some pears and apples? He said, oh, no, I can't. I don't have any teeth. And he was just the kindest, nicest. And this guy was like 30. No teeth and 30 years old and no teeth?

That's what meth does. I mean, I would, when I was a peace officer down in Santa Cruz, I would contact somebody in their early 20s and they'd hand me their driver's license or ID card. And just the two or three years difference between when the picture was taken and the way they looked in front of me was night and day. They were like a walking corpse. And in those days, it was meth. Now it's turning into fentanyl. But if I could just jump in, one last thing, and then I'll get out of your hair. I'm a landlord, and my tax preparer is also a landlord.

She owns about 12 units. She's selling all of them. She said, I will not deal with this anymore. And so you're going to have less rentals, and you're going to have more of these homes sold and be to homeowners. So there's going to be even less rentals on the market. You make it difficult to be a landlord. You're going to ultimately get fewer of them. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I have not increased the rent on my three renters in the last eight years. I could be making 30 or 40% more, but they maintain the properties. We get along. They always pay the

rent even during COVID. And it's just like, it's like when your daughter goes out on a date with somebody, you're scared to death when you're interviewing people to rent the property. And like that one guy said, you have to rent to the first qualified person. And I've had people, you know, who were on Section 8. I know you're not supposed to discriminate on Section 8. Oh, and I've got my baby daddy. Yeah, you're not supposed to discriminate against Section 8. But if you're smart, you have to find a way to do so. I hate to put it that way, but there is a, unfortunately,

I think there is a cultural bias that comes through the people that are hanging out in Section 8 land. I'm sorry. Thanks, Bill. Yeah, I mean, I'm not talking about, you know, a poor, downtrodden elderly person on Section 8. But, you know, when you get a 20, 30 year olds in the baby daddies, the baby mamas in the. Well, you know, remember when we had some of those shootings at the apartment complexes here a few months ago? That same kind of, well, the culture of diversity. And diversity in this case is behavior on how you behave.

Are you going to be a good behavior? No, we can't have good behavior. We have to have bad behavior because that's diverse in our culture, diversity in our culture. Cherry is here. Cherry, pebble in your shoe Tuesday. You just celebrated the birthday. I understand, huh? I made it to 73 years old. 73? You don't sound a day over 72. You really don't. 37, honey. Yeah. So how you doing this morning?

How did things go for your birthday? Oh, I played bingo, and I won a couple of games. Good for you. I'm glad to hear it. Isn't that fun? But what I called about a movie that I can't get out of my head.

You are our resident film critic, so go ahead. What are you liking? Well, I'm not crazy for Tommy Lee Jones because he looked old in the 50s to me, and now he looks like a corpse. He looks like a well-worn wallet left out in the sun, right? Saddlebag with eyes.

Yeah, there we go well anyway uh um tommy lee jones and hillary swank were in a movie called homesman and i you know it was like a western which you know i'm not wild about i'm it's okay but this movie was so good. It had a great thought about this gal who elected to take across Nebraska in the 1870s three crazy women to their home of birth or something. And what, is Hilary Swank one of the women? Yes, she is a God-fearing woman with means, and she and Tommy Lee Jones thank this movie. I mean, this is something I can't stop thinking about. What was so thought-provoking to you?

It's interesting to find, I love movies like that, the ones that make you think or that stick with you for some reason, that speak to you. What was it about this one? Because I'm always looking for something, because a lot of new releases I'm not a real big fan of these days. They don't make movies for me anymore. Exactly. This one hit me because it had John Lithgow in it. The acting was superb. It was so authentic, how people had to live. I thought it was an ocean. It was land, just flat land that they had to make food, and they were starving, and they went crazy. And some of the townspeople noticed that these three wives, because they were all married, their husbands couldn't handle them anymore. And I mean, it explains why, but it was so moving and how they dealt with mental illness

in those days. If you didn't produce food or children and a family and, you know, all of that, you were kind of, you know, cast out. Oh, cut loose from society then, huh? That's the way that works. And this one gal, Hillary, she had such a big heart and she says, I will take these women across country. And it took weeks and weeks and weeks, and they were faced with all, you know, the injuries. Oh, yeah, yeah. It was not a great time just to be traveling. So it's called Homes.

All right, I'm going to look that up. Was it on Dish or something else? What happened? Homesmen. Homesmen. Homesmen. Okay.men. Homesmen. Okay. Yeah.

All right. I'm going to look that up because that actually sounds really good. I like period pieces like that, especially when there's some historical relevance to it and you learn about a different time. There's a book that I've been reading here that I'm going to be talking to an author next hour. And I would love to see the book that I'm reading right now be made into a movie or maybe a documentary of some sort. But it's called Realm of Ice and Sky. And it's about the greatest Arctic rescue ever. And we're talking about dirigibles, you know, airships being used. And this was like a really big deal about 100-something years ago to be able to go explore the North Pole.

And that was the unknown frontier at that point. And it's just really interesting. And the guy who wrote it, Buddy Levy, says that who we think ended up first discovering or exploring the North Pole, according to his research, ain't the case. It's not Perry and these other people that have been talked about in history. So I'm looking forward to talking to him about it. So anyway, like those kind of things. Thanks for the suggestion and happy birthday to you also. All right.

Thanks so much all right you take care and stay cheery cherry it's 7 26 this is brent with home and built deck and fence many customers in the rogue valley ask why 40 off your first year with my name clay as the promo code at lifelock.com terms apply you're hearing the bill my Myers show on 106.3 KMED. Okay, I need different music. I need different music first. We need to do that California burning thing. All the homes are gone because of climate change. When the fires are out, I'll build a brand new L.A. I'll build a brand new L.A. Here's 700 bucks. Here's 700 bucks.

Land grab is underway. Land grab is underway. California's burning. California's burning. And the fire department's gay. God, that's great. That is just wonderful, wonderful. Thank you for the contribution this morning.

$729. Oh, gosh, I forget which order everything is. So I'm just going to have to. Now, is this Tom? Tom? Good morning, Bill. Yeah, good morning, Tom. Hang on just a minute.

I want to grab David real quick here, too, and then I'll get right back to you. I should have written everything down. I got distracted by the music. I'm a little ADD. Hi, David. How are you this morning? Go ahead. Yeah, great.

I love that song. It's great. I'll be singing that all day. I'm probably going to get in trouble for that. And the fire department's game. Fire department's game. Yeah. You can just see me getting on the RV TD singing.

Okay, but that's okay. Yeah, you know, pebble in your shoe and all that stuff. I would just like to remind everybody that tomorrow night is the forest plan meeting at the combined Department of Agriculture Forest Service. That's right. This is for all of the different, there's three options. But Department of the Interior Bureau of Land Management, because sometimes people forget about these two different groups out there on Biddle Road. And it's about our fire map and our forest plan, what's going to be done, continue with the forest plan. And David, what time is that meeting again? Well, it's from six to eight, but I like people to get there a little early to park and come in instead of waddling in late. Plus, you know, there's going to be the groups out there with

their placards when you drive in and stuff. You can just picture all of your Ashland people and stuff, you know, but just come on in and sit down, see what happens, whether it's the fire map or whether it's the anything that goes on, taking out the dams or whatever. We all get excited when we have the meetings after it's a fait accompli. Then we all what can we do about it? I want everybody to know that these things started 20, 30, 40 years ago. And this is a prime example that just because Donald Trump got elected doesn't mean, yay, we won. Let's go back to watching TV.

Thank you. That is the takeaway. David, great way to wrap that up. And thanks for the reminder about that. By the way, Thursday, there's going to be another meeting. Thursday, another meeting. This is at the Josephine County Fairgrounds.

This had to do with the fire map. Commissioner Ron Smith is going to be point man on that one. Informational purposes, trying to get some steam there. Tom, thank you for being patient. I want to make sure I get that meeting mentioned out there before we get back to, you know, California. California. California. In the fire department's game. All right. You know, California.

All right. So, well, you are biting then on California now wanting to sue the oil company because of climate chaos. It's their fault that California burned, not the incompetence in land policies and forest policies there. And also, you know, property policy, really, I guess. What are you thinking? Well, I'm just wondering, I ask you this question or anybody else, do you think the people in California, particularly in L.A., are stupid enough to buy that cover for the incompetency of Loseles government and state government do you think they're stupid enough to put the blame on the oil companies rather than their incompetence what do you think you

think they're that that far gone down the uh uh politically correct uh uh global warming scam uh bunny hole think that that's the way to go. Do you want me to tell the truth? Should I be honest or should I be polite? Well, you're right there on the radio, so blast it out for the world to hear. Yes, they are that stupid. Okay. Okay, because while they continue,

look who they continue to elect time and time again, Gavin Newsom. Who do they elect as mayor? A Marxist, you know, et cetera. They have voted for their enslaver. So all they're looking at is the fact that the oil companies they think have a big pile of money, and they want it. So that's all there is to it, I guess. So to bring this question full circle, is the bulk of Oregonians that stupid that they're going to continue on this whole road to, you

know, basically, I call it Democrat. Yeah, well, the road to hell paved with good intentions, right? Yes. Okay. All right. And I have to say that, unfortunately, looking at the election results, yeah, a lot of Oregon is pretty stupid. I don't like saying that.

How else could I say it? It's not exactly like the Democrats just happened, right? Well, you know, I think this whole thing, this turning away from freedom, from the Constitution, from basic human rights and everything, it's taken years of lie upon lie. We're in a country now that, you know, it's been cultured to think that endless war is just normal, open, wide open borders that with fentanyl and And oppression and security is freedom. And oppression and security is freedom here, Tom. Yeah. So honestly, whether it's – maybe ignorant would be a better term than stupid. I don't know. But when you willfully elect people who arguably can just logically are actually hurting you and hurting the system, but they'll promise you a few little know, a few little shekels here and there.

I don't know. I mean, what's the difference? Well, ignorant, stupid, whatever the case might be. I don't know. Misguided. Yeah, but all of that. But you see, the thing about it, the ignorance has been cultivated, physically, actively cultivated, the ignorance, the stupidity.

Look at the non-education, the Oregon students. Look at Ashland High School parading down the street with their oil-refined clothes and oil-refined smartphones and so forth, protesting. Yeah, and then saying that we want uh we want natural gas taken out of your furnace right you know for new construction yeah so there is i don't know if it's willful ignorance but it's kind of like uh maybe it's faith-based stupidity there we go faith-based stupidity marxism ta i wish i had an answer for this but these are choices that have been made by a majority of the people. And how else can you describe it? I don't like saying that a lot of my fellow men and women are stupid around me, but I

can't help but notice, given the way that they tend to, when they're offered a choice, which choices they go toward. You know, I don't blame, you know, so many of my friends who are of another... Well, then whose fault is it then? Because their vote and their choice is always theirs. Yes, but it's really the oligarchs who are steering mass herd consciousness. Yeah, but do we have to listen to them? Well, in a lot of ways, you don't have a choice.

Well, no, I mean, they can sit there. What if we just didn't listen to them? I know, but you have to be consciousness, have enough consciousness to know that there's BS they're putting out and not to listen to them. I haven't watched mainstream news for 30, 40 years now because I know it's just a pack of lies. Okay, yeah. Well, we have a lot of work ahead of us, whether it's stupidity or willful ignorance. Maybe that's even a better way of looking at it. But I have to tell you, it afflicts both sides of the aisle.

It's not just a... I mean, look at how... I'll be the first to admit, George W. snookered me back in the early 2000s. Oh, really? All right. Really? He didn't snooker me, but I think that's true. He snookered me.

He snookered me, and then I realized he's full of it, isn't he? Yeah. It's just like, they hate us for our freedoms. Wait a minute. No, they got us to turn the nation into a semi-concentration camp in certain areas. That's all. Anyway, thanks for the call. We figured it out.

Maybe a little too late. I hope not. But anyway, let me go to line three. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. It's Francine. Francine, welcome to the show.

What's on your mind? Well, you guys have had such great conversations. I'd like to touch on all of them, but I know there's not enough time, so I'll just go to why I called. Okay. The movie review, The Homesman, which I saw many years ago, and it was a very good film, made me think of the movie The Revenant, which I gave you the book, The True Story, if you recall. Did you ever read that? The Remnant? The Revenant.

The Revenant. The Revenant. The one with the movie Leonardo DiCaprio barf joke that attacked by a bear and survived and made his way. You know, I don't remember you giving me that book, Francine. I brought it to you. Yeah, I did. You've got it somewhere. You should read it. It's quite good. It's the real actual story.

But yeah, there's a few interesting movies that have come out. There's one called American, oh God, what is it? Not Apocalypse. Oh, now I forgot. I've been on hold for so long, Bill. Yeah, you were on hold so long that your thought disappeared into the realm. I'm used to making coffee and feeding the dog and the cat. But it's a really good Western, and I'll text you the name so you can say it later. All right, you do that. But anyway, love you.

What I'm trying to say is there's some things that actually really depict, they have that real feel to them. And then there's all the phony stuff, especially that, you know, the older, some of the older movies and all that, that give people the wrong idea about how things went down. Yeah. And I would tend to agree with you there greatly. Okay. Thanks for the call. Let me get some other calls here going in.

I think we got, I think this is Holly here. Hi, Holly. Hello. Guess not. All right. here going in i think we got i think this is holly here hi holly hello guess not all right you gotta hang on hi good morning who's this good morning bill hi who's this that's herman oh it's you herman okay why don't you hang here just for a second and i'll be right back with you we'll talk a little politics and more okay rightio all righty he'll be next state senator herman bear chigger he always keeps the title he's going to use that now rule number one if you're looking to sell a home choose a local real estate agent hey it's lars and why 743 state senator bear chigger back on the case herman welcome back always good talking with you. Hey, you know, Tom from Talent was bringing up some interesting things.

It's like, you know, are people just stupid? Are Californians just stupid? Are Oregonians just stupid? I don't like to call anybody stupid. Yeah, I know, I don't like to, but yet there's a part of me that can't help it sometime when you do it again and again and again and you continue to put the same regime back in power doing bad things to you and then at some point you have to say there's a choice being made here and the choice is yours and you make a stupid choice i guess i don't know well i i think it's more laziness, paying attention to what's going on.

It's just like I had a conversation with an individual who works for the government. And I was talking about how much taxes were and everything. And the individual's eyes kind of glazed over. And I said, have you ever really looked at your payroll stuff? And I'll bet you he hasn't. No. And then the next time I saw the individual, they said, I couldn't believe how much money we send back to the government, his wife and himself. He says, it's half.

I said, hello. And, you know, and a lot of times people are thinking that, well, it's just the taxes that you paid on your W-2 or your wage taxes, you know, all those sort of things. Even then, your Social Security and Medicare deductions double that because that's compensation your employer paid on the other side of it, right, that you don't see. Exactly. That employer, yeah, yeah. It's hidden. The employer has to take care of it.

If you really wanted to reduce the size of government, Herman, i think all you'd have to do is just eliminate withholding just eliminate withholding and then uh and then put everybody who gets wages on a pay as you go kind of thing in which uh you know every quarter they have to file quarterly taxes and if they had to do that every fourth every quarter like uh business people do or or uh or what do they call them a single what do they call them, loan practitioners or small business people. Bill, we're suckers. So we give every paycheck. We give withholding to the government who gets to use the money interest-free. And then how many people come up and say, say oh look at how much money i got back from

the government in april or yeah well it's like the benevolent the benevolent bully gave you a few dollars back right you're happy about it you realize you paid too much and the government got to use your money interest-free all year yeah but i've also been on the other side of it too in which i've owed the government a thousand or000 or $2,000 or more, which is not pleasant either. You try to make it just right. The system is created by geniuses that keep you running. Yep, I think so.

I think so. But the fact that we submit to it, though, are we stupid, beaten down, ignorant? What? Maybe it's a combination of all this stuff. Maybe just beaten down is part of it. It is. So we were going to talk about the governor's mandate that all law enforcement officers go to special training to combat whatever Trump's doing.

Yeah, that's right. I'm looking at this right now. Oregon Department of Administrative Services in the midst of conducting mandatory staff training sessions instructing employees not to cooperate with immigration customs and enforcement. The trainings cover Oregon sanctuary laws which prohibit state and local law enforcement and government employees from helping federal immigration officials with immigration enforcement. So last Thursday, they sent an email to more than 11,000 employees telling them to complete the mandatory Oregon Sanctuary Promise training. So in other words, they're training the state workers to break federal law. Isn't that, in essence, what they're doing?

Well, I think it trickles down to, let's talk about the Sheriff's Department. I see where sheriffs have came out, and I think they were a little early when they said this. They came out and said, well, they're going to follow the state mandate. Well, sheriffs are elected people, and I think, now, I don't think the sheriffs and the taxpayers in the county that pay for the sheriff and the deputies really should law it's in the best interest of the sheriff's county to be more safer by cooperating so there's a difference between doing the jobs of the fed and cooperating with the feds of government the governor does not want us to cooperate or our sheriffs or their deputies to cooperate.

Yeah. Now, according to federal law, though, there are about two or three U.S. codes that actually prohibit government officials in states from not cooperating. So isn't this kind of setting up a bit of a conflict? And isn't this about time that this get adjudicated as in whether a sanctuary state law is uh is superior to federal immigration law enforcement exactly bill and you know so if a sheriff has somebody that is in their jail that is a fugitive from the federal system and they're not telling the federal government that. They're harboring a fugitive. So this is going to be, but the political aspect

is going to be a very sticky wicket in a lot of the counties when it's time for election time, because that's going to be the number one question to the candidates for sheriff. Are you going to cooperate with the federal government on these laws and on these issues? That's going to be the political question. If they say no, I don't think they're going to get elected in a lot of the counties. Well, I think it's time to talk to both of our sheriffs here in Jackson and Josephine County, wouldn't you think? You know, they're in a really hard spot because they got the governor standing on their feet

who also doles out grant money for marijuana and stuff. And then you got the federal government standing on their feet. Which also doles out grant money for marijuana growing and stuff. Yeah. And so this is going to be a sticky situation for our sheriffs across the state. Well, constitutionally, though, the part that is very clear is that the federal government is far superior, is constitutionally enabled with the powers of naturalization, which would also mean rejecting and removing people who are not naturalized.

So it would seem as being part of the United States union that we would have to be following those U S codes. Where am I wrong on that though? Even though, even if we come up with a different law and we say no. Yeah, I, cooperating with the federal government is the way to go, but I'm sure there's people that are going to disagree with me. But it's going to be a very contentious issue. And if you remember what I said a couple weeks ago, I said, I think we're going to enter a time where we're going to start seeing neighbors

against neighbors on some of these issues. You know, there's going to be a divide, Bill. And that saddens me, but I do starting to see it coming forth. And this is one of them. Yeah. The fire map issue is also coming to a head. I've been talking in communication with State Senator Jeff Golden about this off and on, opened up a line of communication. And I'm glad to at least have a line of communication open,

because I can talk to the Republicans in the state legislature. Unfortunately, I don't think they're really going to be controlling the ball. Would you agree on this particular issue or not? Well, only if they choose not to. Yeah. Well, they appeared, well, I'm already being told that there's no desire to walk out and remove that, so they're not choosing to participate, are they? You know, it's early on. You know, the walkout thing has gotten so complicated. The Democrats really did a—they really put it to them with that initiative process. And they fooled the people again. They're not doing their job.

But you see, this goes back to how stupid is the average voter that can sit there and go for 113? They can't look any deeper into it, not responsible of a citizen enough to look into what the real meaning of that vote is all about and look into it. Tell the legislators they have to do their job. That's what they ran on. That's the exact language. And, you know, well, so we're getting all this. You know, when you start looking at the statistics, because I'm always looking at this good states, bad states, and all these types of statistics. I'll tell you what. We are a declining state, and we're declining rapidly.

We have a negative growth. More people are leaving than are coming in. We're number seven, I think, on housing. The seventh worst out of 50 states. We're seventh. And we have a shortage of rentals at the same time that they punish the landlords. So these are choices being made at the state legislative level, though, Herman. You were there. You understand how this game works. It's all policy. It's all the policy. I think we're number three in the most progressive income

tax. I think New Jersey and New York or New York and New Jersey are above us. I think we're number three. We bounce in between number three and number four all the time um it's crazy and and as far as the state doing business business is not coming here there's just there's just simply not for two reasons one the state isn't business friendly but it's also the employees that work for the businesses this This is not a state because of the high income tax. Let me ask you then, you know, we're talking about this battle between the federal government policy right now with immigration among other things and state policy coming at longer heads, all right? Oregon depends on the federal government for about a third of its money does it not if i recall correctly correct okay about one third of all the money going into the oregon budget

don't you think it'd be a little more cooperative at this point they don't think so all they got they're thinking we just have to survive four years and then we'll be back to normal that's what they're thinking oh Oh, that's it. So it's resist Trump, don't do anything he says, and then we'll be back to a nice, comfortable, secondary Marxist after him. Okay. All right, that's the assumption. But Oregon's declining in a Democrat president, and they'll decline because it's the Oregon policy. You know, I go down my list.

Oregon is not a state to retire in. You got 9.9% income tax. Do we tax pensions? Do we tax pensions here in Oregon? Yes, we tax all of that. Oh. And, you know, we tax the poor, Bill. We have the worst progressive tax in the world.

You get up to 9% pretty quickly. I understand that. So, you know, this is going back to the earlier talk there. You don't want to call people stupid, but when enough people, when a majority of people have continued to return people to office that do these kind of policies, you have to then look or wonder at what drives these individuals to elect these types. Look at the commercial real estate in Portland. It's tanking. And it boggles my mind. They just plunge along like nothing's happening. I remember when we had all the riots in Portland.

How can you forget? Yeah, how can we forget? So I did a remonstrance on that. A remonstrance is a speech that supposedly it's a protest and you can say whatever you want. Nobody's supposed to interrupt. So I started talking about the riots in Portland as a senator on the floor on my remonstrance mind. And all the Democrats went nuts. And the Senate president turned my microphone off. And I kept talking. And then he started gaveling and threatening to adjourn and everything because the Democrats are going, no, don't talk about Portland.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We don't want to hear about that. It was unbelievable. It's on tape. It's crazy. So what, did they think that riots and violence are just a natural outcropping of life there? They hope they turn their head, don't't talk about it maybe they'll just go away oh all right well they govern that way that's that's my point all right let me grab i don't know

this is call for you or not but you've been holding their wild color do you want to talk to herman about something who's this hi this is rembrandt yeah rembrandt you want to talk to uh to herman about something here go ahead yeah i agree him totally, and I don't know if you folks watched Channel 12 last night. No, I didn't last night. I was busy doing some other things. What was on it? It was an anti-Trump screed from WordGo, and they had the wonderful and gorgeous Tina Kotek on when they started it and featured her, and it was anti-Trump right through. And that's a local station, and it's the only one left.

They've gotten rid of Channel 10, Channel 5, I won't watch because it's NBC. And now Channel 12, as far as I'm concerned, is, for me, just, it doesn't exist anymore. Now, was that the local news watch, or was that the channel, was that ABC Network News you were watching? That's ABC, yeah. Okay, yeah. Yeah, well, I don't know. Because I don't see Newswatch being an anti-Trump screed, you know, the whole local deal. But, yeah, it's, well, the media is kind of in its mode.

They've got their marching orders here, Rembrandt, right? But we're in a different time period now, and these folks better wake up to the fact that their sponsors also could be seen as complicit in this. All right. Appreciate the call there, Rembrandt. Well, that's an interesting way of looking at that, Herman. What do you think? Well, listen, all ABC, NBC, CBS, they're all done.

You can't. It's just garbage. It's just you can't it's just yeah it's garbage it's just we've seen it we've seen it now for what 20 years yeah we've been living it this way a long time but when it comes to the way oregon's reacting to trump though uh i my prediction though is that he's going to find a way and and like i said i've always i've been saying for years that if you live by the grant stream funding you can also die by the grant stream funding and that's why i've been so upset about localities our our local towns always taking the federal grants because what have you had to do herman you've had to dance to the tune right there's always a string attached some

some kind of policy you're supposed to enact whether it's okay odot will give you money to repave your uh your downtown streets but then you have to put in bicycle bum by bicycle paths and and and you know bum ways you know you have to do this and do uh road diets and all the rest of it well the same thing can happen to the federal government too of course it could be going the other direction under a new administration. Isn't that what we might be looking at here with Kotech and Trump? Oh, yeah. And we're running out of everybody's money, Bill.

I mean, come on. You know, I think Congress has finally woke up. You know, hey, this $36 trillion or whatever? This is insanity. And I was just hearing this little project that Elon Musk and what's the other guy's name working on? Ramaswamy. Yeah. Yeah, he quit. Ramaswamy quit, by the way. Oh, did he?

Yeah. Well, it sounds like they're coming up with a little over $2 trillion in the budget to save, and they're not. Of course, they can't touch Social Security or Defense. But remember, though, they've got to get that through Congress. I know, and I'm just shaking my head. But we are. We're running out of everybody's money. We are.

So, and we're running out at the state level, right? And we just, I mean, this, this crazy governor who just implemented this, you know, anybody doing any government construction has got to be unionized. Yeah. What's that going to add? You know, 30, 40, 50%. I think all they're doing, it kind of reminds me though of, uh, they're super serving their audience, their audience. You know, it's kind of like a radio station. We super serve the talk audience here on KMED.

In the legislature, they super serve the unions because the unions, of course, sell laundromat money right back to the politicians. I think that's all they're doing. They're supersizing their audience. What do you think about that? I'll give you the final word. No, there's a lot to it. They're placating to

their base yeah they're super serving their audience there you go yeah but but what they're not telling them is we're not going to deliver we're not going to deliver because we can't it's money herman all i could say is when it comes to the legislature and Golden and Noah Robinson and Dwayne Yunker and all the rest of it, get out the popcorn, man. It's going to be an interesting few months here. We've got to watch out for it. Oh, it is. All right. Yep.

All right, Bill. You take care. Be well. We'll catch you soon. A couple minutes after 8, State Senator Herman Baerchiger, former State Senator, but you always keep the title. A couple minutes after 8, KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. We're going to take a break

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