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Hey, we're just here doing local talk radio in Southern Oregon, Jackson and Josephine County.
And things are getting back to work today.
And the grid is being knitted back together here, too.
I'll talk a little bit about that here in just a moment.
First, just a quick rundown.
Most of the school districts or many of the school districts are on two-hour delays or some kind of a delay this morning.
But the ones that are closed, I'm going to hit that.
Ashland School District is still being closed this morning.
Pinehurst School District 94 and Southern Oregon University, they are shut down today.
Now, the delays, though, we have Central Point on a two-hour delay.
Central Point School District 6.
Eagle Point School District, two-hour delay.
Logos Public Charter School, two-hour delay.
Medford is on a two-hour delay.
Medford 549C, Phoenix Talent on a two-hour delay.
Rogue River School District only having a one-hour delay today.
Sacred Heart Catholic School, two-hour delay.
St. Mary's, two-hour delay.
Kids Unlimited starting at 9.30 this morning.
It seems to be about it.
But for the most part, you know, we're getting back together.
You know, we're getting back together, working working again maybe i can get my hair cut my barber shop's
been closed all this week even though i had a had an appointment i'll have to call up laura
see if we can get that get that taken care of because uh i'm now at the point where you know
my hair gets long enough i'm frankly i'm i'm grateful that i have hair because so many guys
my age don't have hair.
So the fact that I still have hair, but still it gets to the point where it doesn't matter how much water you throw on it and you try to comb it.
It's just kind of unruly.
It's getting to that point, you know.
Now, as far as the grid goes here in Southern Oregon, we still have in the neighborhood, the vast majority of people have been brought back online.
Okay. But they're still about, let's see, 300. still have in the neighborhood the vast majority of people have been brought back online okay but
they're still about let's see 300 100 we have 126 or so in the talent area a lot of that by
anderson creek up on the uh in the higher hills they are still without power and some of those
folks have been without power for three four days it's been a very cold week for those folks. South County in Ashland, about 340 still without power.
Highway 66 out on the Green Springs, there's also many people who are about 100 and a half, 150 people who are still without power.
And Sherry Miller writes me this morning and says this is the big thing going on that we need to start paying attention to, Bill.
Our next door neighbor's carport collapsed just a few hours ago maybe you could put out the word
to folks to make sure that they have the snow cleared or removed from carports roofs especially
manufactured homes with attached carports i've lived here most of my life and have never
experienced this type of incredibly wet snow before yeah you know this is the first time
for me to experience that here in Southern Oregon too, Sherry.
And it'll be great for the water year, I suppose, especially in the low to mid elevations
if that snow gets up there and sticks and it'll be able to, you know,
let the water back into the system quite gently.
But yeah, it's melting down here in the valley and it's a very high water content,
very high water content, very high water content.
I would imagine people who are clearing parking lots and clearing roofs
are pretty busy right now, but if you can do that, a pretty good idea.
Mine is melting off pretty well.
My roof pitch is steep enough on my home that it seems to be just kind of
getting lower and lower, and I think I'm going to be okay.
But there are some places.
I was watching a video with Southern Oregon Home,
which I think was on Newswatch, that the roof collapsed in.
It was on video.
You could just watch it just like boom, in goes the roof.
And, boy, like I said, a lot of busy work there for the Fontana Roof folks
and also Stephen Westfall Roofing.
There's going to be a lot of that going on here.
Pressure point, everyone's going to be busy.
You know about that.
All right.
I wanted to touch on something that, and I know this is also kind of a day that we can talk about news that sort of got lost in the shuffle.
And we know that RFK Jr. is going to be going for a full confirmation vote at some point.
I'm not exactly sure where that's going to be.
Same with Tulsi Gabbard.
Kash Patel has been delayed for some reason.
But I couldn't help but notice that when RFK Jr. was up for the confirmation hearings,
and you had Senator Succotash widen over there, lisping away at him.
And like I said, those two with the speech impediments, yikes.
They make a great podcast.
But just having fun.
You can't help but have fun with two of the most powerful people in the United States of America.
Ron Wyden is incredibly powerful.
And people say, you're making fun of it.
Hey, listen.
Ron Wyden hasn't been representing us in oregon oregon he's been
representing the agenda for a long time and the progressive agenda is really what he's been about
although i have to say he's been pretty good on on civil liberties that's one thing that i can give
him kudos for most of the rest of it is pure crap that he's in favor of, in my opinion. But be that as it may, when all of those questions were being fed,
and they were just beating up RFK Jr. left and right on this one,
and you were seeing just how completely bought and paid for the Senate has been,
actually Congress in general, with the pharmaceutical industry, by the nature
of it.
And I think the only reason that there probably weren't more Republicans getting involved
in the fight is that many of them have seen the narrative is changing, Trump's in, they're
looking for a different thing, although many Republicans are also beholden to big pharmaceutical
money, too.
That's just the reality.
Money runs the system but i was getting email
after email after email as a member of the media from a group called science line
now it's kind of tapered off since the confirmation hearings
which to me is kind of a clue.
And I get these things from ScienceLine.
And what they're always sending out stuff is,
do you need science-backed information on vaccines for your news stories?
So they're sending it out to all the journalists or people who are in the media.
And I probably received about 10 of these various emails from them over the last couple of weeks when there was all the controversy.
And, what's wrong with you, RFK Jr.? Don't you like vaccines?
You know, from Senator White, you know, all that kind of stuff.
And you realize that there is such a big rice bowl that many people are afraid of getting broken in Washington, D.C.
And so I ended up going over on their site.
And by the way, the science line, SciLine, and you've got to figure, though, that a lot
of your local newspaper people are getting the same kind of email, all of your local
TV reporters, your regional TV reporters, Portland, wherever it might be,
they're all getting these emails and going, yeah, you know, I really don't know what the science is on vaccines.
And so I better do this because it's coming from AAAS.org, which is the Association for the Advancement,
the American Association for the Advancement of Science.
And so I went to their site, and I'm looking at all of their stuff that they have in there about vaccine facts.
Everything about vaccine facts are successes, the uses, the testing, and the good safety,
personal and social drivers of vaccine hesitancy.
In other words, the default position is that you should welcome taking any jab that the government tells you.
That's the position of ScienceLine.
Childhood vaccinations and school vaccine requirements and tips for covering school
vaccine requirements and helping kids with vaccine pain and fear with Dr. Stefan Friedstorff.
Expert interview.
So it's an expert interview that you can then download and use on your television station or your TV network
or maybe your health blog or whatever the case might be.
COVID flu and RSV vaccines with Dr. Kas casuar to late another expert interview in parentheses
and the thing that i couldn't help but notice is that everything about
the science from the american association for the advancement of science appeared to be fully in, fully in on get vaccinated, everybody get vaccinated.
If someone's vaccine hesitancy, if you're a vaccine hesitant, that's a problem.
And here's how you journalists can then can help people get with the science.
So you just realize, yeah, I haven't had time to go investigate what's going on with AAAS.org, but I would imagine there's probably a lot of the major pharmaceutical money going into that.
And this is what drives a lot of the journalism, too.
But remember, we're backing it up with science.
So just recall that if you see certain stories.
I was just amazed with how much of this came out during the rfk
junior confirmation hearings and they're really trying to protect the vaccine industry the vaccine
industry which already has that billion dollar per vaccine exemption from from liability you know
remember there was the doctor that i talked to a couple of weeks ago. And yet you only have to go back 30, 40 years before they ended up passing that law that even Reagan and the Republicans and the rest of Congress all agreed as they were putting together that vaccine law, that vaccine law, which gave them an exemption from liability or protected the vaccine companies from doing this is that vaccines by definition
are unavoidably unsafe they cannot be made safe it can be safe for some people but you can't just
make it safe they are unavoidably unsafe that is actually what congress and president reagan
ended up signing and that really seems to have been memory hold.
And now, obviously, the pharmaceutical companies with probably backing of the American Association for the Advancement of,
maybe it should be the American, well, the American Association for the Advancement of the Science, you know, with Fauci.
You might as well say that because it is like the total, the scientific bent so-called science, the science is like all Fauci science.
And I just thought you should be aware of that.
And I hadn't really received much information from SciLine until all of a sudden Bobby Kennedy, RFK Jr. is up there and then the journalists uh you know they need to be able to bring context to all of these
accusations of conspiracy theorists you're a vaccine conspiracy theorist
anyway i just thought i'd give you a little look behind
oz at the controls in the journalism world and where a lot of this comes from
now i have to tell you if i were-year-old working for a television station here, I jokingly
say 12-year-olds because they all look young, right?
So you're a 12-year-old, you just got your journalism degree from Slippery State Rock
University or wherever it is, and then you're going to work for maybe just a little bit
more of the minimum wage at a typical television station at a small market or something.
You don't have a lot of life experience.
You don't have a lot of knowledge on the vaccine situation.
But still, maybe you're told, hey, RFK Jr. is on the hot seat right now or else we're having people that are – look at this.
The state of Oregon, we have people down in the south county that are not getting their vaccines.
We need to do a story on this.
And so you got the 12-year-old journalism graduate, doesn't know a whole lot about it, other than maybe what they were inculcated in school, I don't know.
But then they'll get an email from the science, and they'll default to it.
Well, they're science and they're expert interviews.
And I can see how a lot of this stuff gets sort of passed along critically.
And that's why I'm sharing with you what gets sent to us behind the scenes
so maybe it helps us think a little bit more critically.
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Today, it's going to be the Swamp Update with Rick Manning.
That'll be about 10 minutes from now.
And State Senator Noel Robinson will join me.
We had State Senator Jeff Golden on yesterday talking about the fire map and the various other multiple bills that seem to be getting stuffed into the gullet of the state legislature
that Senator Golden, of course, not particularly popular with a lot of folks around here in southern Oregon,
at least in the rural lands.
But I thought I would give Noah Robinson, who is from more of the rural side of things,
a chance to respond to some of that.
So we'll talk with him at 710 this morning.
And we're also going to talk with some people involved in election integrity. Now, a lot of people may go to sleep because
they're thinking, well, Trump's in, everything's fixed. No, no, it's not. So we'll get to the
bottom of that. We have Tom in Talmud. Tom, how are you doing this morning? Welcome.
Oh, I just poked my head out of Snowmageddon. But, you know, I've seen a lot of articles now accusing Trump of being
a dictator, a fascist, and so forth. And in fact, there's quite an article on global research
called The Veiled March Towards Fascism, How Trump's Presidency Erodes American Democracy.
And it's just full of BS. The main thing that I see is, yeah, it does seem like he's taken some radical moves,
but I think there's a huge, huge denial of how radical and how extremist
and indeed how fascist our country has been for quite some time.
And Trump is just doing the norm, so to speak.
Because tell me how fascistic Obama was with, hey, all I have to do, your power bills are going to have to needfully.
Quadruple.
Quadruple, yeah, triple and quadruple.
And this and that and the other to save the planet.
And I've got my phone and my pen.
Now, you see, when he has his phone and his pen and his boatload of executive orders,
that was fine.
That's democracy, right?
You know, that sort of thing.
And when Biden would do the same thing, too, by the way.
I mean...
Oh, absolutely.
Well, and, you know, we've been taught that to have perpetual war is normal.
This whole thing with Ukraine and the Middle East, it's very normal to have unending, nonstopping war for America.
And if that's not, you know, fascism along with the mandates to get a shot from unknown ingredients with unknown consequences with no liability.
I mean, we have been in a very fascistic state for some time.
So when somebody comes along trying to normalize it, they accuse him of being radical.
And there's such a denial of how undemocratic and how fascist America has been for decades.
And I would add that we have slipped into this. And I think one of the biggest mistakes that
people have made about the United States of America is thinking that fascism would come
with everybody doing goose steps like North Korea or, you know, Nazi Germany or whatever totalitarian state you want to look at here.
But fascism at its core, even when you go back to Mussolini, fascism is not just authoritarianism.
I mean, there's all sorts of different flavors of authoritarianism, Tom.
But the most accepted version of fascism, you just go to Mussolini, which was a form of corporatism.
Everything within the state, nothing outside the state.
And in our particular case, corporatism is, well, it's called the public-private partnership, right?
How many times have you heard that term being used out there?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Look what's going on. Right. How many times have you heard that term being used? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a public private partnership in which essentially corporations end up partnering and or controlling and or being controlled by.
It's like I mean, that's the cabal that is the function of government today.
And and I'm not saying that that is being vanquished with the Trump administration,
because, you know, even look at what he talks about Gaza, you know, Gazalago. I don't want to
nickname it that, right? You know, Gazalago. Well, you know, we're going to turn it into a nice resort,
right? You know, kind of like that's the real estate developer. Well, the United States is
supposed to be a real estate developer in the Middle East, right? But that's kind of a
fascistic trend, but that's what everybody does around here yes yes it is we have to be careful of uh trump's uh courting of all the
high-tech people who uh if you let them go from what they're saying they want to convert america
into a uh basically a super surveillance police state yeah and el and Elon Musk wants to put a neural link in your brain at some point.
Right.
That's what he's developing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's just another form of corporatism.
Normal fascism.
Yeah, exactly.
And it has been somewhat normalized.
And so people are saying, oh, this is coming.
Listen, we've already been here.
It's already been here.
And I would have to say that it really started rolling and getting perfected uh once we had the war on terror
you know that kind of thing in which uh you know you're either with us or you're against us
you're a terrorist you know that kind of thing i think that's where it started you know you know
it's really sad but it it's like we've been kind of gone through the whole gamut, the washing machine, you know, repeat and rinse so long that we've really lost sight of what freedom really is.
I'm not having this super government dictating every last aspect of our lives.
Yeah, Americans often think that, well, yeah, Americans think often, Tom, that freedom is, well, freedom is the ability for me to choose within all the choices that government may permit me if I get my permits in place.
You know, that kind of thing.
And that's freedom.
And that's freedom and liberty.
That kind of thing.
Yes.
You have to see it before you can change it.
And I think most people, you know, a lot of people, more on the left, can't see what's going on.
There's a huge portion on the right that can't see the, you know, the dictator.
Well, the sad truth of it all, Tom, is that most Americans want to be told what to do.
Yeah, well, you have to go into why is that so.
And that goes into the tenth plank of the Communist Manifesto, which is government control of education.
Bingo.
Thanks for the call.
All right.
Got to roll here, buddy.
Rick's going to come on here in a couple of minutes.
I've got to get him on the line.
I'll take a couple more calls here before I go.
Hi, who's this?
Good morning.
This is my name, Dave.
Hello, Dave.
I wanted to say we have about a foot of snow.
Okay.
You've got about a foot of snow.
All right.
That's all I can hear. Your phone's bad, Dave. I'm sorry. It's all cutting in and out. I can't work of snow. Okay. You got about a foot of snow. All right. That's all I can hear.
Your phone's bad, Dave.
I'm sorry.
It's all cutting in and out.
I can't work with that right now.
I'm sorry.
But thanks for the call.
Hi.
Who's this?
Good morning.
Good morning.
It's DePorto Patrick.
Bill.
Hello, DP.
What's going on?
Yes, sir.
Well, I may be naive, but at least I'm loud.
Okay.
I hate to be the last one to figure it out,
but maybe I can at least be the first one to say it. And I will confess that when I
was painfully watching Adam Schiff had grilling a cash Patel so bad.
And I'm sitting there like a normal goer thinking, you know, don't you realize, don't you
guys realize he's good? And I'm thinking, he just wants to see, this is the only way of laying a
glove on Trump, is by giving his nominees a hard time. And then after a while, I thought about it,
wait a minute, that's not it. They don't want a good FBI director. They want an FBI director that
they can control. They don't want an FBI director like. They want an FBI director that they can control.
They don't want an FBI director like Cash Patel that might come after them.
Well, because remember, they're part of our democracy.
This is pathetic.
I know.
Do you think Cash Patel is going to get through this gauntlet?
Well, I don't know.
He has been held off.
I mean, they're holding off on doing the confirmation vote.
I'll tell you what, I'll ask Rick about that here in just a minute because he has his ear,
he's sort of knee-deep in the swamp water this morning.
All right?
So we'll see what he has to say.
All right?
Thanks, Patrick.
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I'm not talking, let's go.
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Great place to get to know and download cartoons and share them and the memes and everything else and good analysis.
And I don't know, swamp weather is pretty good this week.
Isn't that right, Rick?
Ice yesterday, but the rest of the time, right now, it's beautiful blue skies, probably 35.
Yeah, I know you weighed in on some of my social media posts this week.
It's been kind of a, it's been sporty here in Southern Oregon.
Still about 800, 900 people without power.
Wow.
Yeah, but it's just that we ended up just getting this uh this load of heavy wet
high water content snow and it's weighing on tree branches and then the tree branches would call
we would fall on the lines and then the lines would sag and short out and people's garages
collapsing roofs are being caved in trees are tipping over and so it'll be great as far as
the water year goes but you know that heavy uh gloppy
stuff really ended up getting us in and all these transmitter sites that we maintain the broadcast
community all of it tv radio everything's been and cellular sites you know we're going down too and
so just trying to get to the sites has been quite a challenge but uh i i got to one in jacksonville
yesterday and it's like it's snowing as i make it up there there's about 10 inches on the top and i'm just running the regular four of toyota
four runner and it wasn't bad getting up but it's the part that's going down which gets a little
scary you know yeah the inability to stop yeah exactly it's one thing if you bog down on your
way up but it's the coming down and there's the down and there's the rollover cliff on the side of the forest road.
But it was fine.
I made it down and everything's fine and we're all back on.
Well, for all the complaints about baby boomers out there from younger people, you are the argument for baby boomers.
They just go out and fix it.
Yeah.
I would say somebody has to just go out and fix it
and that's uh the fact that you're chasing all over not just the uh the smart guy on the radio
you're chasing all over uh the hills and the snow and everybody else is hunkered down and we're
trying to clear their own that's very kind of transmitters you know another guy that was doing
yeoman work though the uh the pacific power line people the line repairers the linemen
are i i don't know i mean are youers the linemen are i i don't know
i mean are you allowed to say linemen anymore i don't know but uh they were just doing yeoman
work uh steve porter was doing lots of work in joe county too he was just uh doing incredible stuff
uh going up on sites and doing all sorts of things like that but but the thing is it's it's just you
know everybody pulls together on this kind of stuff. The schools have been all closed, though.
Yeah, I don't want to undersell this or oversell it,
but the fact of the matter is radio is one of the mediums that are absolutely needed in these kind of emergencies so people can find out what's going on.
And you're working so hard to keep the stations up and going
and getting them back up and going so people had a touch with the outside.
And the local news, not just what's going on nationally, but the local really important news impacts their real lives.
Really, really important.
And I want to thank you for doing that.
Okay.
Well, thank you for the kind words.
Hey, Rick, I wanted to ask you, speaking about, you know, what's going on here in Southern Oregon right now,
a lot of times is about how the national news is impacting our state government and our state government is
doubling down on stupid because it is oregon okay oregon likes to double down on stupid and i'm you
know i'm reading here from the attorney general dan rayfield who puts out a press release the
other day just going you know we have to do everything possible to take care of the transgender community because, you know, these children, you know, this is life-saving care and the Trump administration is taking away their candy, you know, essentially is what he's saying with that executive order.
And then you have Southern Oregon sheriffs that are now on the record saying, yep, we're going to follow state law and we're not going to assist ICE and do any kind of communication.
Southern Oregon sheriffs?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
The Southern Oregon sheriffs are all saying this because the Oregon Association of Sheriffs
has more or less said you better follow state law, you know, because state law is sanctuary
law.
And that's been going on for about 40 years now.
Well, 38 years, actually.
I think it was 1987 they first started doing this.
So were the illegals running the, basically cultivating the illegal pot groves all over
Southern Oregon?
No, they get cut loose.
Every time that there's a bust like that, they're cut loose, and if there are American
citizens, then they grab them, that kind of thing.
Wow.
So actually, there may be a reason why they can't find Americans to do those jobs.
The Americans get put into jail, so the illegals get put back out in the field.
Could be.
It's a, wow.
But on the other hand, though, Trump administration is suing Chicago for their sanctuary state,
sanctuary city, and Illinois, too, for that matter.
And so I'm wondering if Oregon is kind of whistling past the graveyard,
thinking they're going to be able to stand and say, sanctuary state, sanctuary state.
I don't know if they're going to be able to pull that off much longer.
What do you think?
Well, you know, states can have a lot of freedom in terms of what they want to do.
For instance, if you remember, practically the way we ended up with 55 mile per hour speed limits was
the transportation department in the States said we don't want to do it.
So the Western States in particular said we're not doing it.
And the transportation department said, well, great.
You know, we have all these federal roads in your state.
And we're basically,
we're not putting money into federal money into your transportation
department and let you kind of figure it out.
At which point, 55 mile per hour speed limit signs went up all over the place.
Same thing with seatbelts.
So given that the you know, I think the precedent is pretty clear that there is a capacity to withhold funds based on state policy decisions. Now, I know in Trump won,
Attorney General Sessions attempted to do the exact same things.
That shut down, he lost in court,
and the initial rounds in court,
and then was so tied up in the other stuff
that he never got to finishing the job in terms of that fight.
So it'll be a fight.
But the fact is, you don't get to say no and then get a bunch of law enforcement money.
I'm not going to say we're not going to turn over criminals to federal law enforcement
and say, oh, but we want all the money.
That isn't going to work.
Eventually they're going to lose.
The states are going to lose on this.
And, you know, basically they're going to have to make a decision.
Same thing on education policy related to transgenders.
You want to do that, it's fine, but the education department, which may or may not still exist,
may not be providing you with a lot of the money because you'll be in violation of federal
law.
Now, we're told that, depending on whose books you look at, they're anywhere from 10 to 15
percent of a lot of local school funding ends up coming from the federal government at this
point, right?
Correct.
That's correct. And so they're going to have to make a decision, and the state will make a decision, but then your local school boards also have to make some decisions because they're
the ones who have to finance this stuff and figure out, and your county commissioners are going to
have to say, well, if we've got 10 to 15 percent less money coming into our local school, do we raise property taxes?
How do we fund it if we're going to try to go forward without federal funding because of this crazy transgender stuff?
At which point there's a real cost to transgender, this kind of psychological abuse.
And it's a psychological and physical abuse.
So there's a real cost, a monetary cost.
And voters, liberal or conservative,
tend to be a lot more willing to do social experimentation
when there's no financial cost.
But the minute they have to write a check,
it becomes significantly more important.
Then it becomes real, yeah.
Well, you look at also what's happening here.
Was it the NCAA that ended up coming out and saying, no, we are not once again, another fake woman, you know, in there, and that they want all those records that he,
in my opinion, I don't care what he calls himself,
but what he ended up doing is he just ran roughshod over all the female swim
teams, and because he's a dude, you know, that's just the way it is.
I think the same loss is, I think,
San Jose State where they're women's volleyball team, where they I think they're the same loss. I think San Jose State, where they're a women's volleyball team,
where they had a man on the volleyball team.
And I know they were in this championship.
I don't know if they won the NCAA championship.
But a number of the women's squads wouldn't play against them
because quite honestly, it was hurting people.
And then, yeah, exactly.
Wasn't he the one that was giving skull fractures or concussions to the other team
with hitting him with the ball, right? Yeah, so there's't he the one that was like giving skull fractures or concussions to the other team with hitting him with the ball?
Right. Yeah. So it's a so, yeah, there's a couple of losses.
I think the NCAA or the NCAA decision stick to basically do the transgender policy related to women,
men competing with women, and that once that federal pressure went away, they—
They wanted to go back to reality, in other words.
Well, they immediately backed away from it because they knew exactly that this was devastating to women's sports at a time, by the way, at a time when women's sports is catching on in America.
The Caitlin Clark effect is real. And it's a it is becoming it's not let's face it.
It's not as strong this year as it was last year. And Caitlin Clark's last year in college and first year in pros.
But your bottom line, though, is that women's sport is increasing in popularity.
And it's beginning to be able to contribute to the university athletic department bottom line.
And you don't want to do anything that screws with the legitimacy of it and having dudes
beating up on females.
You immediately end up with nobody watching the television and which point all
those all those tv revenues that they they're negotiating and getting in now are go away and
you know the one thing that drives uh most of the decisions by the nc2a and others
is you know is this monetizing is it something that contributes to the bottom line or is it
something that is a pay for and the women's sports has been a complete pay for up until now,
where the men's sports, football and basketball primarily,
had to pay for the women's sports,
and they were just part of the burden in the backpack.
But that's changing right now, and legitimately so.
The women's sports, the women's basketball last year was a good product.
And so, quite honestly, it was also a good product because unlike men's sports,
the stars go in college, men go away after one year in basketball,
and the women stay for four.
So you get to establish, you know, rooting interests and all that good stuff
that used to be common in college football and college basketball.
So all in all, women's sports is on the rise.
And two, I can look at numbers and say, listen, we have to prevent this from destroying a
future goose.
Essentially, the television audience wants to watch real women.
That's it.
That's all.
They want to watch competitive basketball amongst equals.
And yes, they don't want to have a dude running around who's 7'2",
dominating over the tallest women who are 6'5", 6'6".
Yeah.
You know, that's a—it becomes, you know,
Will Chamberlain playing high school basketball in Kansas when he was 7' tall.
And, you know, he's playing against a bunch of guys who are 5'9".
It's just not competitive, not fun, and it destroys the game.
And I also think it's some of that return to normalcy.
And, of course, our democracy, which, of course, is the leftist world order, you know, that kind of thing, is not real happy about this.
But I think it's just the reality where we find ourselves. Isn't it amazing that our democracy people are all upset
that the people voted and had an election and it didn't go their way. And so suddenly now
democracy is being destroyed because the people voted against their point of view. I mean, it's a,
you know, it always, it always amazes me how words shift meanings. And our democracy always meant to them, it was not democracy, it was always an oligarchy.
And it was always the wealthy, you know, basically saying we're taking care of the masses.
And so that's democracy.
And it's just, it's nothing more than a totalitarian show.
Rick Manning is the president of Americans for Limited Government, DailyTorch.com.
Rick, I wanted to take it back to some other things.
As far as the, I guess, what, 60,000 federal workers have accepted the buyout, and I think it's misnamed buyout because it's not really a buyout.
You're just not having to work much through the end of September, you know, that kind of thing. And I think that's how they're able to get it passed. Now, there's been lawsuits filed
about this, but I don't know what court is going to say that the executive who is in charge of the
executive branch of the government is not allowed to say, hey, we're going to offer this where you
don't have to work here for a number of months,
but we're going to continue to pay you through the end of September if you want to resign.
Most of the people are leaving. It's really no different from what they're doing now.
Yeah, and what would the court, though, what court, I guess there's a restraining order against this all right now,
or a lawsuit, which has been filed by the unions.
And it's like, how can the unions say we don't want the people to be able to volunteer to leave on a good deal?
That's what I'm trying to figure out.
Well, yeah.
I'm sorry to stutter a little bit on that, but I kind of like going, what? No, it's listen, there's a lawsuit that the unions filed that the labor unions are filing right now saying that Doge can't be at the Labor Department because the U.S., a duly authorized group of people who are federally who are authorized by the president of the United States, who are sanctioned, who are in an agency created by an executive order from the president of the United States,
can't go into a federal agency and look at management practices
and look at the various grants and other things, expenditures,
that made out of the Department of Labor.
The labor unions are suing, saying, no, they don't have a right to be there.
So the labor unions are saying the president of the United States, whose Article II responsibility is to actually run this thing, can't actually manage those who are working for the president of the United States under the agency.
I mean, it's legal nonsense is what you're talking about, right? I'm telling you it's legal nonsense, but that doesn't mean that you're not going to find Obama-Biden judges, even Clinton judges, who are going to be, you know,
who are going to dive in on it and say, no, no, we don't want to do this. So it's a, you know,
like anything, I hate to say it, you know, I think we've experienced this over the last 10 years.
It matters which judge hears it, because if you
don't believe Trump has a right to be president, then you're going to do everything to block
the executive, the Article 2 powers of the president. And so, yeah, he has a right to do it,
and he will eventually be given that right to do it. I will tell you the numbers were less than I thought they would be, and I can tell you why.
I think if they redo it and make it more clear, some of the directives weren't completely clear in terms of what happened and what was going to, how it worked. And so a lot of people said,
well, I'm not going to take the chance of taking this and
discovering that, you know, it's not the deal I thought it was.
I think if there's some clarity, given feedback, if some clarity and they extend it for another
week, they'll double, triple the number of people who take the biopsy.
Interesting.
Now, I wanted to talk, though, about these.
I reckon 60,000 is about 5% of the workforce.
That's still significant.
That's still significant.
All right.
And the other thing I wanted to ask, though, about the spending cuts that have been taking federal court action, you know, action against that.
Is there a possibility that President Trump was a bit too hasty on the actual, hey, we're just
going to cut everything and then maybe should have been a little more careful with Elon in the early
part of this in which we publicize the crap first and then we do the study, almost like making sure that you're doing all the due process
in order to have gains and in order to keep long-term gains, even if you don't get all the
gains you want immediately. What do you think about this overall? It just seemed to have been
very, very rapid. Well, it is very rapid. And I read something last night, by the way,
I was wrong on the 5%. It's really about 2%. Okay. But the gains are – some of the things that they're talking about are astonishing.
I read something last night about the actual chronology of what happened and what they found and when they found it.
Are we talking about USAID?
I'm talking about the entirety of the government.
Okay. I'm talking about,
they were in Treasury doing systems and looking at systems and mapping all the expenditures,
probably, you know, midnight, January 21. And they had it cracked by then. It took them about
12 hours to figure out how the systems worked and for the AI to kind of figure it out.
It is – when Elon Musk comes out and says there's about a trillion dollars worth of savings, worth of waste, fraud, and abuse that can be identified, it's a – when he comes out and says that now, I didn't believe it.
I thought it was hyperbole.
I now believe it. I thought it was hyperbole. I now believe it.
And I believe it because of what I – it was a sub-stack put on by somebody who's involved in this.
And it's astonishing what they're doing.
It made me feel obsolete, truthfully.
I was reading this.
I was going, this is astonishing.
This is everything that – everything we've wanted to do for 50 years, but you never
had the brainpower to sit there and put all the pieces together of the vast expanse of government,
how they were doing everything. And they went in and basically with computing power,
put it all together and said, here's what they're doing. Here's how they're flowing the money.
And the reason you're going to get more and more screaming is a lot of the money is a lot, a lot, a lot of people,
businesses and NGOs in particular, and advocacy groups are fully funded entities in the United States,
taxpayers, and we have a – and the receipts are there now so when he comes in says there's a
trillion dollars worth of savings and for next year you can take that to the bank in reality
i really if i were if i were writing the budget bill for 2026 which the republicans are doing
right now i would plan on i'd cut that in half and then probably cut it by, I'd probably put in
$350 billion of savings a year in the budget. But I would put in a specific language that
affirmed the Impoundment Act that said the president finds there's more savings,
he's not required to spend this money. boom. And because he currently has it right,
but he's got to fight in court to maintain it. But bottom line is, there may be a trillion dollars
worth of actual waste, fraud, and abuse. And with the stories we get out of some of the things that
happened on unemployment insurance in California with cartels accessing the unemployment insurance during COVID and basically providing a real funding stream for themselves, it would not shock me.
It would not shock me if we found that there was – that there were whole systems set up for defrauding the federal government on every major social program that is a mandatory because the
mandatories don't get touched by congress they get they just kind of free flow it all works on
autopilot right it's on autopilot and as a result it's it's much more and it's much more possible
for fraud but the the challenge that exists if i'm'm just looking at it, I can – it becomes – you can put all sorts of different ways of trying to find the fraud.
But if you've got a system, you can beat the humans saying they're trying to go through it, forensically figure it out.
The computers you can't beat, and they'll see the systems.
They'll see the patterns. And
when they get to HHS and they're looking at Medicaid and stuff and Medicare,
it's going to be, they're going to find lots and lots, I suspect.
So there are a lot of rice balls being broken and probably the people who are protesting the loudest about trying
to get rid of the waste fraud and abuse are part of that could that be yeah well if you if you've
got a wash race repeat cycle where um particularly the going after the non-government organizations
the way trump is uh with an executive order yesterday demanding an audit of every, authorizing, saying there will be an audit
of every non-government organization
against federal funds.
That includes Samaritan Purse.
It includes World Vision.
It includes a lot of groups like that
that do good work.
But it's a,
but he wants an audit of every single one of them
to find out where they're sending their money.
And it's a,
that is going to
send shivers down the spine of a significant amount of the whole left-wing funding mechanism, which truly is a wash, rinse, repeat cycle of people giving contracts out to certain people that then gets – it all gets – those people then go and advocate for the funding, goes out, funding goes out, contract goes out. Oh, yeah, and there's another side of it when you look at, what, more than $8 million of Politico Pro subscriptions there in the federal government under Joe Biden.
And then, of course, and the word comes out, hey, don't do any – you don't want to do any articles on the laptop or the Ukraine of Griff, right? Yeah, all in all, they could say, well, they were subscriptions to Politico,
Publico or Politico Pro, but the fact of the matter is the major customer of Politico was the federal government.
You and the idea that there's a federal government.
That's who the major customer was.
And that was their big client, and they were selling them a product,
but they were making a profit off that product.
And their profit they were making off their product was paying for the nonprofit entity,
which was their – it's actually for-profit, but it doesn't make any money.
The political, all the reporting and everything they did, and guess what?
People in journalism for a long time have said you have to have the publisher separate from the editorial
because, gee whiz, we don't want the advertisers to have a say-so in what's being reported.
But when your money is coming in for Politico and the reason you exist,
the reason your reporter job is because you've got the $8 million contract with the federal government.
That has a pretty big impact on what you choose to write about, what you don't choose to write about, and how you choose to write about it.
And that's exactly what happened.
Hey, Rick, I'm running out of time at this point.
I wanted to ask you a quick one, though.
Kash Patel, does he make it through confirmation it's been delayed?
Well, the delay, it's not really a delay, okay?
Okay, all right. The delay is normal procedure.
The minority has a right to say we want to take a week before bringing it up for vote in the committee.
That's a right that both sides have.
It's no big deal.
Don't read too much into it.
I think it gets confirmed.
All right.
What about Tulsi and RFK?
Harder.
Yeah?
I think J.D. Vance believes they're both going to make it.
He's got a lot better sense of what's happening in the Senate than I do. But if I had to bet, I think Tulsi loses.
I think RFK Jr. survives by the skin of his teeth.
Okay.
All right.
I think that's reasonable.
We'll see if it happens.
But like I said, it's a bad bet one way or the other.
And the other question I would have is, who's really going to control the
budgeting process? Is it going to be Lindsey Graham and the senators and the Republican senators,
which I'm not real happy with for the most part? Or is it going to be the House boys,
which I'm not thrilled with, but more happy with? Great question. I think ultimately Donald Trump's
going to control the budgeting because he's going to decide on whether it's going to be one big beautiful bill or two.
And ultimately, I think he's going to make those decisions and the Senate and the House are going to have to fall in line.
Okay. We'll take that to the bank. We'll talk next week. And I thank you so much. All right. Be well.
No problem. Take care. Be safe.
Once again, Rick Manning, president of Americans for Limited Government, DailyTorch.com.