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Episode Date: February 8, 2025

State Senator Noah Robinson talks Fire Map bill, his bill to repeal 762, and response to Sen. Golden Thursday talk in favor of mapping. Open phones follow.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. 40 Saturday, 42 Sunday. Vicki's in the Applegate. Vicki, you have been snowed in, what, for four and a half days now? Oh, yeah. I actually, we have the, I have the best neighbors out here.

My neighbor across the street came over with this tractor and cleared my driveway because we couldn't even get out. I haven't been able to move my car since Sunday. But you're a little bit concerned about, you're not really necessarily a fan of the snowplows. I mean, you like the snowplows. You must be talking about the county snowplows coming by, right? Yes. And my issue with the snowplows, and I'm actually going to start a petition. I'm going to go to all my neighbors. They come by and every time we have an event like this,

they scrape the roads, which we appreciate, although they haven't really been out here too much on Sterling Creek. But they make big berms in our driveways. So if we had an emergency, people can't get in, we can't get out. Well, I think, I don't know if there's any way they can't make a big berm. If you're going to push it off the road, it's got to go someplace. It's going to go through your driveway. Then you have to clear your driveway, right? Well, the issue I have, Bill, is that they take out our mailboxes every year. Some get destroyed. Some you can't even find until the snow melts.

And the berms, I see them lift their blade for like however wide your driveway is which is what six feet so that you can get in and out i i don't know if that's i don't know if that's practical when you're sitting there plowing miles and miles and miles uh i don't know maybe i could talk to maybe i could hear from a uh a plow truck driver and then maybe they can let me know if that's something that could work or not. It'd be ideal. But living out in the county in rural area is never an ideal situation when it comes to the road plow thing. So I can understand your irritation.

I just don't know if there's a way to fix that physically. I could be wrong. Crazy Gene, it may not matter anyway, right? Isn't that right? Yeah, yeah. What do you want us imagining today for Friday? It's not Conspiracy Theory Thursday, but give me a good one. Well, I was just thinking, which is a bad thing to do,

that what if God is in control of all the bad things that's happening? Maybe he's trying to get the children who are out in the playground playing, and it's time to come home for dinner. Okay. In other words, don't sweat the Super Bowl this weekend. Yeah. He's going to make it as bad as he can, just drive us away from where we should have been for so long.

All right. It could be. I'll think about that. I'll take it under advisement, Crazy Gene. Let me go to Wild Salmon. Hello, Steve. How are you doing? Morning. I'm doing about that. I'll take it under advisement, Crazy Gene. Let me go to Wild Salmon. Hello, Steve. How are you doing? Morning.

I'm doing all right. Hey, I heard you say that you're having trouble coming down from the transmitter site. Oh, yeah. Well, I went up on Jacksonville Hill yesterday because I needed to switch a transmitter over because the generator that we had blew its guts out. I'm going to have to do some repairs on it. And the generator only works on one particular transfer. I don't want to get into the weeds on this one.

But what happened is that it was about 10 inches up on top, and I'm just on a stock 4Runner. But getting up is not too bad. Coming down is usually the scariest part about that. But fortunately, the snow had not been driven on. Nobody had been driving up there, I guess. So even the people that live, they hadn't plowed it out yet. So it made it easier in some respects.

But still, it's the coming down that's always the white knuckle part. Well, if an antelope breaks, it screws you up. Because as soon as one wheel slips, then your brakes quit working. I had a friend who lived up Mountain Street in Ashland, and he got a new Jeep. And he would come down that hill, and he would always run out into Siskiyou Boulevard because the brakes didn't work, and he kept taking it to the dealership, and they kept checking stuff. But Mountain Street was just an ice rink, and the airlock brakes wouldn't let your brakes work.

Well, the same thing happens when you're four-wheel driving. And if you want to fix that, take one of the wires that comes from the encoder on the wheels that makes the analog brakes work. Yeah. Put that and run it to a switch on your dashboard where you can turn that on and off. And then you'll have brakes and you can stop. Huh. All right. So be able to – now, I know I'm sure it's probably perfectly illegal, you know, to do something like that.

Yeah. All right. But, you know, that's an interesting take on that. Normally the way that I have dealt with it, though, is I have, you know, it's a four-wheel drive and I put it in four-wheel drive, where both the front and the rears are locked together. And that seems to eliminate some of that a little bit, you know, because they're all sort of in sync. All four wheels are in sync. But the serious four-wheel drivers all do that, because the analog brakes will screw you up more than anything. And then if you are going downhill and you get caught in a rut and you're heading someplace you don't want to go, the thing to do is the most non-obvious thing is to turn the wheels the way you want to go

and hit the gas, and the front wheels will climb out of the rut. Of course, then you're going faster, but you're not going over the side of a cliff. Yeah, well, the best thing that I have in this particular place is that there was a rut on the side, but there's a rut on the side that you can actually ride down. It was in much better shape doing that. Yeah, well, serious four-wheel drivers do pretty crazy things, and the more crazier it is, the more fun it is when you're able to do that sort of stuff. Yeah, well, anyway, I've learned a lot, and thank you.

I don't know if I'm going to clip the wires to the anti-lock brakes, though, just saying. Well, you just run it to a switch, Bill. Yeah, I know, I know, I know. But, you know, I don't want to tell my boss, boss, yeah, I know, what's that switch for? Or you could turn off the anti-lock brakes. Really? Okay. Thanks, though, Steve. i like that all right uh noah robinson

senator noah robinson will join me here in a couple of minutes here we'll catch up with maybe a response to senator golden's talk from yesterday if your home computer has issues call tech peers bill meyer state senator noah robinson joins the program noah it is great to have you back on welcome well great to be here thank you hey you. Well, great to be here. Thank you. Hey, you know something, Senator? I don't know if you had a chance to listen yesterday when Senator Golden was on. Did you happen to catch that or catch a podcast or anything? I did catch a podcast of it later, yes. Okay. It's interesting. We talked a lot about the fire map. I know that you have submitted a bill

to repeal Senate Bill 762. I don't know if it's going to get a hearing or not. It's a high bar given that there's Democratic majority control of the legislative process. But did you catch that part at the end, kind of the philosophical side of it, in which Senator Golden talked about politicians that are, you know, saying that we're going to be able to fix this are lying to you. I'm going to paraphrase a little bit, but, you know, your insurance is going to go up. Your, you know, your fire insurance is going to go up.

Property taxes are going to go up. Your cost of everything is just going to go up. And any politician that claims that they can really fix this or take it back five, ten years is lying to you. I almost thought that was a bit of a straw man argument because I don't think anyone's arguing that we're going to be able to roll back costs to five, ten years ago. But I wonder if that was just politics. But he says, you know, we've run out of kicking the can down the road. And I didn't get a chance to talk to him about it, but I couldn't help but think, yeah, you're the guys that have been kicking this can for a lot of times. Yeah, that's right. Our forest management policies have been poor for years.

When we were actually logging the forest, the forest were managed pretty well, and we didn't have these problems. There's been no major difference except poor management. And what can I say? Yes, they've been kicking down the road, but the Democrats have been in charge for 20 years. All right. And I guess the point being, though, is there any realization within the Democratic control grid there that everything they're doing is increasing the cost and we're told that, though, well, you're stupid to even think that you shouldn't be paying these increased costs. Is that the way it's kind of read there, or is it the country mice at war with the city mice? And, you know, the city mice just have no clue on how it works here.

Well, I think it's a bit of both. I think they're in a bubble. They actually believe a lot of what they're doing. But it is very true the legislature is controlled by legislatures from the cities, Democrats from the cities for the most part, probably tens of thousands of landowners that are now just worried. They wake up every morning worried what's going to happen to their property. This is the first step. They've been asked to do all sorts of things. Their insurance rates are going up. The government wants to intrude on their land.

They don't know what's coming next. There are more bills in the hopper to restrict building on private land. And it's a huge worry for people. The first step we can do is roll back 762. And then we look at what the best way is to fight fire and keep these problems down. They can be solved. I don't buy the idea that everything's going to be terrible from now on. We can have a wonderful society. We just need different ideas. And I guess the other aspect of it is that there is a risk to living on the rural lands, and I think most people have more or less accepted that if you're going to live there.

Is that fair? That's exactly right. And we live here because I live in a rural area. We do it because we enjoy it. We like it. It's harder work in many ways. You're on your own in some ways. And yes, there are additional risks, but the people living there know those risks and they are quite willing to

accept them. I think one of the biggest intrusions on Senate Bill 762 is that it has essentially taken everybody who may be vigorous and with it,, I think of all of these retirees and elderly people who live on a lot of these rural lands, they've had their homestead for years and years and years. And all of a sudden you're being told, well, you have to hire lawyers or you better get a land use planner on you. Oh, you better do an appeal. You better do all this kind of stuff and there's a part of me that said that you know wait a minute all of a sudden you're just imposing these costs and intrusions on us and under the guise of wildfire they are hardening our properties to let the federal government burn through our properties we're supposed to just all of a sudden hop to the state government do they grasp that yet i I don't know. I think this has raised the issue

of some, they might be worrying about a little bit, but I have gotten, I'm flooded with emails from people. I've got landowners that tell, you know, their parents left in this land, they want to leave it to their children. They're now afraid they won't be able to, that they're going to lose it. It's what they've done to the security of people what their fear of the government it's just sky high and they don't know what's going to happen next and the only thing you can do is back off of this and say sorry we were wrong and i understand golden is realizing at this point that these maps aren't going to work okay well he realized i think you're right i think he realizes that the map isn't going to work though but are they going to realize the map doesn't going to work. Okay, well, he realized, I think you're right, I think he realizes that the map isn't going to work, though.

But are they going to realize the map doesn't work to the point where you just need to gut it and start again? Or maybe just leave it be? Yes, and that's right. I think the best solution is just to eliminate it. And then he's talking about sensors to

look for fires. I mean, nobody's going to oppose that. I want to look at that more. Any way we can detect these fires early and put them out as quickly as possible will improve the lower cost for fighting fires and improve everybody's lives. But that sort of thing doesn't need a huge bill with all sorts of intrusions on it. That we can easily get through the legislature. That won't be a problem. But I think 762 and the fire maps need to be completely rolled back so we can start fresh. And I don't know whether – I mean, the insurance rates are probably not going to just go right down.

Once you scare them, there's this argument that insurance rates were going up anyway, and, of course, it's true. Because the claims have been going up. We have to be realistic about this. Of course they have. And I've even been reading articles that, and I don't even know what the state could or should do about something like this, Senator, but I was reading a sub-stack that was talking about in opining that the West, because of the lousy management that we've been enduring for a lot of years, may essentially be uninsurable. The west coast of the United States or the western states where we have most of these, you know, they used

to be kind of managed through logging. It was imperfect, right? You know, it was, but at least there were always people in there. Roads were built and there were people that were always watching it. And plus, plus you know there was some monetary return to the counties in the states from the logging going on on the federal lands well that's been gone for the most part for a long long time and now it is just an expense and you know now we're told that you just have to burn it all for landscape management i mean this this is where we we find right now. And how can you insure against something like that, against those kind of policies?

Well, it definitely raises costs. But I would say that there's no question that when you put out a wildfire map and say that the homes that are in these high-risk areas are going to have more expenses rebuilding, there's questions about whether they will be able to rebuild because we don't know what's coming down the pike. When you do that to the insurance companies, they also look and say, wait a second, if we do have a claim, it's going to be a lot higher. So there's no question that it did raise those rates. But yeah, to your point about forest management, if we could get back in the woods, there would again be a profit incentive in keeping the woods nice, and we would be much better off.

But that is a federal issue that has no support among the U.S. senators on the West Coast. That would be part of the challenge of dealing forward. The whole idea is that we're just going to keep throwing grant-strained funding into Loma Cotze and other collaboratives to burn a few acres here and there, which is not going to take care of the major problem, I don't think, Senator. That's exactly right. When you have a plan to do something and it's only going to nibble around the edges, do a little bit here and there, you have to look at the problem and what it's going to cost. And it's very difficult once you take everyone out of the woods. What is the overall tenor in the state legislature in the Senate caucus towards Senate Bill 762? Is there a chance this could get a hearing? Could it get a hearing to

repeal it, you know, your bill that you submitted? I haven't had a hearing yet. I don't know whether we'll get one. As far as the Republican caucus, I don't know anybody that doesn't want it repealed. I can't speak for everybody, but obviously this is something that common sense people realize needs to be done. I think, though, in the House, we probably have a similar situation. And if we could just get the bill forward and start talking about what this has actually done to people in rural communities, maybe we could get the Democrats to realize that this wasn't the way to go about it. Do you know if Senate Bill 79 has broad support? Bill 79, yes.

That's another one. They want to shut off building on farmland and so forth. This is a direct attack on family farms and other people that would just like to live out in the rural areas. Is any of this needed? And if there is anything needed in either of these bills, which it is Senate Bill 762 or 79, what do you think would be most appropriate to save if you had a magic wand here, Senator? Well, I don't think the land use is needed at all.

Remember that this is very unique to Oregon. Senate Bill 100 way back started this stuff. Other states don't think the land use is needed at all. Remember that this is very unique to Oregon. Senate Bill 100 way back started this stuff. Other states don't have a problem. You know, they talk about high-value farmland. Well, Iowa is full of high-value farmland. So is the Midwest, other states in the Midwest. They just don't get cluttered up with homes. It doesn't take that much land area to build homes.

So I guess if you're supporting big agricultural companies that want everything bare and large swaths, and you're worrying about little houses being built here and there, I don't know where this is coming from, but I don't think it is needed at all. It seems, though, that Senator Golden and people of his ilk tend to look at rural homes as something putting a strain on the infrastructure because there is then demand for services. Is there a case to be made that that is an issue at times? I don't think that's an issue because in rural areas, when you live on a farm, you don't expect to be connected to the mainline water systems or sewer systems.

You have your own well, that's the tank. You would like to have a little police protection, which isn't that expensive to have an officer patrolling. This has been a problem in some areas when they're really strapped with funds. It's been a problem in Joe County. We know that. Yeah, it's definitely been a problem. And so the citizens in the county, they'd like to fix that problem. Other than that, in terms of security, the people in farms are on their own. They know they like the lifestyle.

They like the fact that they're going to cut firewood every year, that they just live that way. So it's a way of life. And I think it really is a problem because I think the Democrats don't understand it because they don't live that way. They live in cities, and they think everybody else should. I mean, you can't say – assign motivation to any individual. Well, you know, the thing is I did talk to Senator Goldner. You know I mentioned sustainable development. That really is – whether you want to call it climate-friendly equitable communities like the governor's former governor's executive order here

from a couple of years ago whether you call it sustainable development agenda 21 or a climate friendly equitable community it really is the the policy of the state of oregon now how can't or how can senate bill 762 or 79 how can it not be connected with that kind of look at the world? I mean, am I wrong to assume this? And Senator Golden disagrees with me on this kind of stuff. That's right. No, you're not wrong. It fits the agenda.

You can't, for any particular senator, so Golden supports 79 760, if you look at 79, for example, I can't tell you what his motivations are, but there are certainly people around him that would like to move people out of farms and put them in the cities, and it's the agenda of a lot of these big fire groups. It's no secret. So you end up using the risk of fire, which is there. It's a real risk. No one's doubting that. We see it happen every summer for the most part someplace.

But under the guise of that, you push the greater agenda. That's right. And so, I mean, I can't tell you what Golda's motivations are, but there's no question that people that are pushing these bills, people around him, are saying that they would like to do that. And so, no, it is part of the whole state agenda. And it's very bad. There's the climate change issue, which, you know, we oppose that scientifically.

We look at it carefully. This is not a problem. But they actually believe it up here. They are directing state policies that way. We shut down a coal-fired plant in Boardwin that was produced a few years ago that was producing huge amounts of electricity, and now they're running around wondering why electric rates have gone up. And so living has become more and more unaffordable because of state policies that promote things that are totally unnecessary. Yeah, but if the power is more expensive,

it's greedy corporations, right? That's exactly right. Sorry. The people get mad at the PUC board and what the margins are, I'm actually looking into. I think it's normally about a 10 percent profit margin that most of the utilities are guaranteed. Something in that neighborhood. Right. Yeah. So, I mean, that's 10 percent. We can argue what it should be because, of course, this is a sort of monopoly. That's why there's a PUC board. Yeah. But you have to buy the electricity. You have to buy it. You do. So if electricity costs go up, they have to pass on to the consumers. All costs eventually get passed on down to the consumers.

That's just the way it is. And when the state of Oregon also tells you that you should be concentrating more not on hardening the grid or making your lines safe earlier. Instead, you're supposed to be building windmills and solar cells. Right. And then they and then they do. And then we have wildfires. OK, you nasty people, you nasty power companies. Oh, man.

Heads they win, tails we lose here. I got to tell you, I don't know. What do you think is going to be next in this argument, in this battle, besides the fact that there is, by the way, I wanted to remind folks that there is going to be a workshop at Republican headquarters in Josephine County across from the courthouse tomorrow, 10 till 4, in which they'll be working on the Senate Bill 762 wildfire map. I guess you're looking, people that are looking for appeals and such. Are you going to drop in on that, or do you know?

I'm just curious. I was there last week, and if I can, I will. Okay. All right. Yes. This is not fair. You realize that while we debated up here at the legislature what's going to happen, down in Josephine County and in other counties, real people on their

property are trying to figure out what to do, and they're distracted from their other work. They're hiring lawyers. It's just wrong to impose just the worry on burdens, even if we're going to fix it all in two months. All right. State Senator Lola Robinson, best of luck on getting your repeal bill, a hearing, and maybe a vote. I'll tell you, it's going to be a high lift. We understand that one, but we appreciate the fight. Thanks for being on, okay? Take care.

Well, thank you very much, Bill. I really enjoyed it. State Senator Noel Robinson. It is 735 at KMED, 99.3 KBXG. Price of gold, I haven't checked it this morning, but it's been hovering in that 2850-2860 deal. It was hit 2870 the other day. And it is more or less predicting lack of faith in governments and the ability to get control of the currency. Dollar has slipped a little bit,

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appeal letters that were sent out, or at least the letters coming from the ODF. What are you thinking? I'm thinking that they have a deadline. I didn't get my letter until seven days after it was certifiably mailed from Salem, so I lost 10 percent of my time. Secondly, they have a dead, a place where the hearing has to be. Is that hearing going to be locally? Is it going to be delayed because people cannot get things together? Why not have six months? Why not have a year? What's the hurry? Let's get down to the point that the people can afford if they have to. And then it's a lot of – What's the hurry?

I think the idea is to implement it before the vast majority of people understand what's going on and rise up and take off their heads politically. I think that's really what's going on, don't you? You're absolutely right. Plus the fact that it causes people consternation at home, they get into arguments, they have a lot of things that are affected outside of the actual issue. Now, this is something, though, which would require some kind of a lawsuit, some sort of legal action would need to be taken to force this unless there was enough political will to get them to say oh yeah why not a six month why why not a six month because

i know that there are people that are 80 90 years old that own property out in places like this and you know not a whole lot of money land rich cash poor you know that kind of thing and then to tell them all of a sudden you're going to be hiring lawyers at three, $400 an hour to work up your appeal and do this and attend the hearing and all the rest of this, it's just total BS. And the worst part about it is when you get all done fighting that battle in three to five years, they're going to turn right around and say, well, now we're going to take another bite of your freedom and your property. We're going to say, you got to do this and you got to do that. And it's never ending. This is pure communism. Yeah. At the very least, there should be a delay, but the whole thing is that it needs to be ceased and desisted. And of

course, that's one of the part of the process of this that I'm sure they'll be talking at tomorrow's Republican Party headquarters in Josephine County from 10 till 4. OK, Ron, thanks for that. And by the way, I've been told that there are some typos in those papers that were handed out earlier. I'm going to see if I can get an edit up with that from some of the people involved that they can edit that cease and desist and change some of that stuff. And I'll talk with the people involved. OK, 742, if you're on hold, I will get right to you after news.

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How the heck you doing? Good to have you on here. Oh, thanks, Bill. Happy Friday. You wanted to weigh in on the conversation earlier when i was uh coming down from a transmitter site and the coming down part was always the scary part because of and it's true analog brakes of course because of problem then you have wild salmon steve it says cut the wire to an analog brake system and then put a

switch on it what do you say well you know? Well, you know, the anti-lock brakes, you know, the anti-lock inhibits the brake pedal. It stops the pressure from that wheel once the wheel's sliding. So, you know, there are the older systems, yeah, they could get you into trouble. But I mean, on these newer cars, really, if your tire's sliding, you're already out of control. So I don't know that ABS is, I mean, I don't have any problems with ABS in the ice, but I'll tell you this, all the cars in the ditches, okay, that cars in the ditches that you see, so those – almost all of them have traction control that inhibits you from giving more throttle to get out of a slide. And so that's really the precarious thing about these newer vehicles with traction control is you can't – it cuts your throttle when you need it because it senses the slipping of the tire. And, yeah, I had a guy call me yesterday, and he just slid right off the road because he had the traction control feature,

and he was able to just turn traction control off with a button because I think it was like a 2008 model or so which still had that feature, and he was able to just drive out of the ditch. Yeah, my PT Cruiser has that switch too. And when I was coming home the other day and trying to get into the driveway, I was having that problem because it was a bit of an incline. And then the traction control would sit there and just kill the throttle. And so you couldn't get up there.

But if I killed the traction control, you just hit the switch on the dashboard, it was great. I was able to get up there. Yeah, you spun your tires a little bit. It was no big deal, but it worked. Yeah, well, yeah. No, it's definitely a bigger problem than the anti-lock. The anti-lock's a pretty good system, in my opinion.

You know, they used to teach in driver's ed when I was in high school that you can pump your brakes to avoid the tires locking up. And nowadays, I don't think they teach people anything about, you know, actively driving your car in different kinds of terrain. But I wouldn't encourage people to disable their anti-lock brakes on modern cars. Yeah, it was hard for me to – I kind of had to look askance at that one. Not a solution I plan on doing. But I'll agree with you.

At driver's ed when I was a kid, you were taught to pump, and also you had to feel and squeeze, and you had to pay attention to your vehicle. And now, I mean, I guess you don't need that to the same extent unless you're driving a vintage car. And, of course, I have one vintage car in my real vintage car, that van of mine. And you have to pay attention because you get yourself in trouble. You know that. But on the other hand, you're always actively driving it, which makes it a lot more fun in my view. Yeah, well, definitely, you know, we're becoming really disconnected from the technical use

of the car. And so, like I say, that's really great if you don't want to, you know, maybe it has a safety benefit on paper. But I'm telling you, these cars in the ditches, they probably could have powered out of it if their gas pedal would have worked like an actual gas pedal and let them, you know, give it some acceleration instead of just cutting all the power and letting them slide down into the ditch. I'm certain that's the case in the vast majority of these cars in the ditches here.

Good point. Thanks for the call, David. Let me go to Brian Weldon. Hey, Brian. What's on? Yeah, Bill, I, you know, here, first of all, I live, you know, right next to the road. And we call it, you know, it's a flood zone. We're on low bank side. And so our insurance has gone up because of the flood zone. And we all remember what happened to the Rogue River at New Year's Day and areas there between Christmas that raised 16 feet. So anyway, I'm paying more insurance for being in a flood zone. And now in this new fire map, we're in the moderate fire area.

So going out to Senator Goldman's house in Ashland, he has brush, dead brush, trees right up against his home, all over in the backyard. And he is in a green zone can he please explain to me how this map is accurate for those in josephine county that are in high fire zones and moderates and here you go up to salem and they're all in a green zone what's with that well they're in a green zone because the computer model says they're in a green zone. Yeah. And honestly, they are probably in a less fire-prone area. We're living in forests.

We're living around a lot of dead trees, a lot of dead tree forests. Where am I wrong about that here, Brian? What about Senator Golden's backyard? That's a backyard that's in the urban landscape. Yeah. No, I mean, sure. I mean, ideally, yeah, he should get it cleaned up. But that has nothing to do with his fire rating.

The fire rating had to do with the computer modeling of the overall landscape that is going around there. That's all. I mean, it's like, yeah, you can call it hypocrisy, but he doesn't live in a high prone area. Right? Yeah. Well, Alameda was less than a mile away from his backyard. So, you know, I guess fire roared right through there. I just find it extremely difficult. Well, remember, that wasn't a wildfire.

And I know he doesn't want to call it an arson fire, although the city of Ashland Police Department thinks it's an arson fire. It's an open arson investigation. It was an arson fire set in a 60-mile-per-hour wind event, which would make just about any property fire-prone in that neighborhood. Just saying. Yeah. All right. Let me go to line one. Hi, good morning.

Who's this? Hey, Bill. It's Matt. Hey, Matt. This one's off the beaten path here, way off the beaten path. Okay. I'm just reading a story from the National Poll in regards to how much of that UCEDD money went to different organizations, and about $260 million went to Soros-backed organizations. I can't say that's surprising.

It doesn't surprise me in the least, sure. I mean, when it comes right down to it, those kind of NGOs and USAID, that's an example of our democracy, our democracy meaning the communist infiltration of the United States. That's what they mean. This one in particular caught my eye because it says the Institute previously came under fire for its role in Albania, where it was accused of facilitating judicial control by a left-leaning government. And I'm thinking about Brazil here because Lula, who is the president of Brazil currently, was actually

in their federal prison for all sorts of frauds and other kinds of things he committed while in office. And their Supreme Court let him out to run against Bolsonaro, who was considered the Trump of Brazil. And I'm wondering – I hope that something comes out. After seeing this, I'm thinking maybe Soros was funding – because, you know, Supreme Courts don't work the same way in other countries as they work here. Sometimes they're actually the ones in control of government and how the government's managed. I think Israel has a version of that. But I wouldn't be surprised if Soros was involved in getting Lula out so he could run against Bolsonaro. And I still believe that a lot of this money that went in there was being used to facilitate

fraudulent elections around the globe. And frankly, it's the coup machine, USAID, part of the CIA's. I really do think it's part of the CIA's coup machine. And maybe we'll find out more about this over time. I hope so, at least. Yeah, I think the fact that they hired Rubio to be our head of the State Department, I think that was brilliant because the guy speaks the language. And there's a certain familiarity when he goes down there, when you're speaking the language, you're of Cuban descent. And I think he's getting a – I mean, we're doing some battle down there like with Panama today, going back and forth.

But I think people are giving him a pretty warm welcome. And there are several left-leaning organizations in Central and South America that are getting together to deal with Trump and mass deportation. And I think this kind of plays into it because if Brazil could be flipped again and get someone like a Bolsonaro in there, then you begin to build momentum in our hemisphere. And that's something that I'm focused on. I'd like to see that. Very good. Hey, Matt, appreciate the call. It's always good thinking. We'll go to next line.

Hi, you're on Open Lines Friday. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. This is Jim from Jacksonville. Hello, Jim. What's up? I just had a Shady Tree lawyer tell me that this might be a two-step taking by the insurance companies the county

and state government and federal government okay what what that this might be what is this it's called a taking no no i know that no what is this though you're saying that this is a taking oh yeah the bill i'm sorry both bills would constitute a two-step federal taking by the federal government, state and local governments of private property. Okay. Now, Senate Bill 762 is not controlled by the federal government. I know, but it eventually will be as it moves up through the court system okay how is this uh something that uh that your uh shade tree lawyer or your lawyer uh thinks that this will be a taking by the feds moving up i'd love to hear this please well he has previously prevailed in federal takings on water use and other kinds of uh impositions and there are precedents for this.

And I know we're going to have to move through the state system, but I really believe that this is a two-step process between our colluded senators and the insurance companies to wipe out presence in the county. Okay, how does the insurance company gain by presence in the county. Okay. How does the insurance company gain by wiping out the county? Yeah. It's just collusion, Bill. That's all I have to say.

Oh, okay. All right. I'm just asking, if the claim's there, I'm just kind of wondering what the attorney says. I don't see any evidence that the insurance companies are there to buy up the properties. I don't see any of that. That's all. I'm just curious what that mechanism would go for. I will just remind people here once again that sustainable development, that whole globalist bent, is the official policy of the state of Oregon.

And it's also the official government policy of the United States government. So maybe what Jim in Jacksonville says has a point. It's all connected in one form or another. I know this is not Conspiracy Theory Thursday, but you can have at it and talk with me about it if you wish. 770-5633. We will be talking about election integrity here in about 10, 15 minutes, too. You're thinking it's all fixed because there's a different administration.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Latest reports, though, are saying that we have a long way to go.