Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 02-10-26_TUESDAY_7AM

Episode Date: February 10, 2026

02-10-26_TUESDAY_7AM

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Reverend David clued me into a story with Joe Hoff's report. reporter Joe Hoff today. Joe Hoff, of course, is another host. He also writes on the gateway pundit.com a lot, but on joehoff.com. His breaking story ended up breaking yesterday. Files confirmed that President Trump was the whistleblower on Epstein. What do you think about that? I'm going to share a little bit of this with you.

Citizen Donald Trump was the one who blew the whistle on Jeffrey Epstein. Now showing, this is from the document dump that came out, you know, the millions ended up being released. Many other redacted, though. Documents show that President Trump was the whistleblower on Epstein. Newly unsealed court documents show that Donald Trump called the Palm Beach Police Chief about Jeffrey Epstein in 2006, describing Delane Maxwell as evil and Epstein's operative. Yeah, this is what the new documents files confirming that he blew the whistle. on Jeffrey Epstein.

Interesting. I can't say that surprise is made, is it? Does that surprise you? I've still going to go back to what I was mentioning a little bit earlier, though, last hour. I mean, this is all good. Everyone's talking about these big, powerful people who are resigning around the world with the fallout of the Epstein files release. And Donald Trump, by the way, ended up a warning about the collateral damage that was going to be happening.

All you had to do was just kind of be in the fallout. and whether or not you were guilty of something, if it was even looked weird, you know, off you go. But obviously, I guess, you know, yeah, we've had this for years now. Big powerful people with their little pedophile and their sex rings and such. But remember, Alexander O'Costa that I talked about last hour, I went and looked it up because I kind of forgotten the details of that. Alexander Acosta, the investigator, who was the fourth. Florida attorney at that time was told to lay off on Jeffrey Epstein because he's intelligence. And in the midst of all of these documents that are pointing out, okay, President Trump blew the

whistle, that's wonderful. That holds President Trump in good stead, wouldn't you think? But still, ultimately, isn't the real crime, the biggest crime of all, the governments that are running intelligence using Jeffrey Epstein? and isn't that the real story? Am I wrong to kind of want to pick that scab which countries were running Jeffrey Epstein or taking part in this? Because essentially they were the ones that were paying for this, facilitating it, using the information from this. And no doubt to have nice little dossiers on people so that they can control people that we think are actually independent actors as they get elected by us. This reminds me of what is something that Joel Scousin has talked about quite frequently in the World Affairs Brief.

I talk with him every now and then a fellow from Utah, and he talks about how nobody really gets to, or very seldom do people get to high situations or high office, unless there's something on them, some darts that you are controllable, whether you're a judge, whether you're a Congress critter, whether you're president, I suppose. Yeah, I mean, could all be there. Could be all there. So to me, the most important part of the whole story, yeah, we can talk about the victims. Yeah, we can talk about all the pedophiles. We talk about Pizagate and all these other things. To me, it's the fact that these are government-run operations. Which governments?

Why? Who's paying for it? Have you shut it down? And if not, why not? Or is that too far? I'm just going to raise the issue here this morning. It's a pebble in my shoe this morning. He said, Jeffrey Epstein, he is intelligence.

Leave him alone. Oh, I believe that. I believe that indeed. Which intelligence? Which intelligence agencies? Because they were the ones writing the checks. And ultimately helped him get his millions. And the big empire.

Right? Talk me that. If I'm wrong, let me know. But to me, that's the real story. the government's doing it. That's why they wanted him left alone. It helped the intelligence agencies, which meant that the intelligence agencies of certain countries approved it.

770KMED, tell me if I'm wrong and barking up the wrong tree, and all we have to do is just go and get rid of the Prince Andrews, and everything's all done. What do you think? Hi, KMED, this is Bill. Good morning. Welcome to Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Who's this?

This is minor Dave. Yeah, Dave. Yeah, he's working for MI6 and the CIA because they're part of five eyes. And if you look at all the people that are losing positions, it's in the British government. In fact, there's talk that it might even bring down the monarchy. There's talk about it. It might bring down the monarchy. That would be a good thing if we brought them down.

All right. But see, that's just, you're thinking it's just MI6, just the CIA? Well, no, but you don't understand. M.I.6 runs the CIA. It runs the British intelligent Mossad. Oh, well, now, you see, yeah, Mossad has to be involved in this, too, wouldn't you say? Yeah, but that's ran by the British, not the people of Israel or even their government. You know, I've heard all sorts of things, but I've never heard that the Brits are running up, running Mossad, Dave. I've never heard that theory. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're running everything.

Uh-huh. Okay. I don't know about the Brits running everything. I just, I don't see the Brits. That's the way it's been for thousands of years. All right. They run everything or try to. Okay.

Well, I'll try to do it behind. We'll let other people put some meat on that bone then. But still, wouldn't you think that, wouldn't you think that instead of getting everybody putting, Ooh, look at who showed up in the Epstein files here. The latest one. Oh, this person resides. That's the tiny part of the story, isn't it? The real story is who he works for, which is the British Empire.

I'm not even going to go down British Empire. He's working for government intelligence. Why not? Because they're the ones that started as a global thing. And they're the ones that invented honeypots. Okay. Well, you were trying to tell me that they have a patent on the honeypot? Come on, Dave.

No. What I'm saying is they run psychological games, Bill. And they want you to think that it's the Israelis or the CIA when it's really them. Hey, don't look at me. Look over there. Uh-huh. Okay. All right.

Thanks for the call, Dave. 7705-633. 770-0-K-Bee. To me, I want to know which agencies. That's what I'd like to know, which agencies did it, because obviously they're approving of it. And they're co-conspirators, I would say. And that is surprisingly obtuse at this point in time, I believe. Hi, good morning.

This is Bill Meyer. Who's this? Welcome. Hi, Bill. Good morning. Hi. Hey, I'm not talk about what you're talking to this. You know, it's Pebble and Tuesday or whatever.

It's kind of like that. Okay, so it's a catch-all. What pebble is yours? Well, you know, I listen to, I listen to you, you have a touch of humanity, you know. You've been had it, you've worked all your life. You have it, you know, everyone's got a checkered task or whatever, but employers and this and that. Yeah. And, you know, I really get tired of hearing like the Lars Larsons and the Sean Hannity's and the Joe Pegg.

And Lars Larsson, he just goes off about how blue blood he is. And he's got 30, he's only had two jobs in 35 years. And, you know, you got, you got through. You know, there's a lot of people in their 50s. I have listened to other shows this morning. A lot of people that are not close to Social Security, they're in their 50s, and they're caught up in dementia and problems in life. And this guy, this guy just like, oh, well, I've, I've just.

If I was unemployed, I'd have a job by 5 o'clock that day. Oh, yeah, I've heard that. I've heard that. Yeah, I know what you're getting at there. I don't know if that is specifically, well, of course, I don't know. You know, when you're at a, when you are at a national talk show host level, if you got fired, yeah, chances are you could probably get another job with a different network, maybe the next day. So they could be right, telling me the truth about that, though, Chris. Well, yeah, but I mean, it's just like, oh, well, well, dude, you're one of the lucky ones.

You've been to Sean Hannity's and the Joe Pags and all other talk shows are one of the ones that got through and got a great gig in life. There's a lot of people who don't, and they, you know. Are you thinking that right-wing talkers sometimes are a little bit tone-deaf about the real world, how it's working? Yes. Ah. So that's a pebble in your shoe this morning, huh? Well, it just grits my, like, what do you say? Grate your teeth or whatever.

Yeah. Okay. Now, what you've got to do, go out and get yourself a work. Go get yourself a job, man. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, okay? Come on. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, if I could do it, if I could be a talk show making worth, I don't know how many billions of dollars he's worth, but if I could do it, you could do it. You know, it's like, hey, I wasn't born yesterday or, you know, just like Sean Hannity was talking about someone called in and said, boy, I'd like to spend the holidays. You're just the greatest. And his wife or Linda or whatever, she's like, well, that person's had no life experiences.

Yeah, Sean Hannity is probably just a pig. No, no, that's not true. Sean Hannity is probably one of the hardest working to be, honestly, from what I've known, you know, about him. he does he does not have what i would call to be a very broad experience of life because he is in the show the show the show the show he is a single he's a machine man he really is um but uh but before that before that though he was working a lot of uh slummy jobs if you want to call it or just regular folk kind of jobs he was a you know carpenter doing all sorts of other things so i wouldn't sell them all short though but i will agree

with you that there are times that there is a little bit of a tone deafness with how easy it is to just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, especially as things age a bit. Okay? So I'll give you a point on that, okay? Appreciate the call, Chris. 7705-633-770KM-D. You know, that's kind of, isn't that kind of Republican talk show host? That's kind of the creed, though.

Pull yourself up by the bootstraps. What if my straps are broken? Tough. But anyway, it's 724. The Diner 62 Breakfast Burrito sets the standard in the industry and has been analyzed by... Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show.

729. It's open phones on Pebbling Issue Tuesday for a couple minutes more here. Citizen Crabs on the road. Hello, Citizen. Welcome back. Good morning, Bill. Morning. Good morning, Bill.

About how surprised you sound about agencies backing and paying for the Epstein debacle. Oh, I'm not surprised. I'm not surprised at all. I sound surprised. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah, the whole Epstein thing really got broken up or broken out probably 25, 30 years ago. the great conspiracy in chief, Alex Jones, covered Jeffrey Epstein for years. Oh, I know.

I know. It would be hearing about this off and on. My point being, though, is that the people being named in the documents isn't the story, really. I mean, although that's going to be the story. Do you understand where I'm getting at here? You know what? Sure. Yeah, the victims, obviously, I mean, they're redacted, so we don't know exactly who they are.

But the players themselves, they know what they were doing in terms of intelligence and the money. The Rothschild money, I think the minor day was correct in saying that British MI6 intelligence was behind the whole thing and Mossad and CIA. You know, pick whichever alphabet soup agency you want. But what I'm getting at, though, is that that's the story, isn't it? Of course it is. I believe it's a story's been the story for decades. And yet it's the story that doesn't get penetrated or nobody even within our own government is talking about, oh, okay, so he's government intelligence. That means that we were paying for this.

Why are we paying for this and why are we creating dossiers on perver, you know, and enticing? I don't even know if they're necessarily enticing, but having dossiers on all sorts of world leaders and movers and shakers in our do. democracy, right? You know what I get that? Well, no, I, agencies function is to get dirt. I don't think that's anything new. No. It's been going on for a very long time. Individuals within the agencies, what they did was willing to cover it up because probably they were part of it too. Yeah, very well. Very well could be. And if we were really talking about reform and actually

calling, you know, accountability, you would be shutting down lots of intelligence agencies if you were really concerned about reform, wouldn't you? Yeah, but who's going to enforce? Intelligence agencies are top rings. Who's going to enforce it? Well, to see, that's the other issue, though. Intelligence agencies have, in essence, become the controlling authority over our so-called elected government.

We, you know, we rubes, citizen Krebs, go out there and take part in our representative democracy, and we go in our democracy here, you know, locally. while at the same time all the people that are rising to the top then are really controlled by government intelligence rather than we the people. And we wonder why the place is such a corrupt cesspool, I guess. Well, Republic. There's Bob rules. Yep. Thanks for the call, Citizen Krebs.

Always. 770 KMED. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. This is Bill. Who's this? Morning, Bill. This is Phil from Rogue River. How are you?

Doing fine, Phil. What's on your mind? Well, I really didn't have a pebble in my shoe until the caller that you talked to you just before. break and he was talking about, you know, Joe Paggs and Hannity and all the talk show hosts that think it's just so easy to live. But he should have probably done a little research on their prior life prior to radio. It was like, for instance, Michael Brown was the Undersecretary for the Homeland of Defense. And he was the director of FEMA, FEMA. Yeah, yeah. And he was the one that was hey, you're doing a good job, Brownie. You know, that was that was the Michael Brown. We were talking about.

Yeah. Yeah. And Joe Pats. He was president of Domino's pizza. So your caller probably... President of Domino's pizza? Really? Pags? Yeah. You sure?

I thought that was another fellow or godfathers or something. Gentleman, it's no longer alive. But I'll get back to you. You could be right about that. Yeah. Anyway. But, you know, it doesn't surprise me at Joe Pags. He looks like he'd be running a pizza place.

There's something about Joe, you know? And by the way, I think what happens, though, I think you have to agree, though, that there is, at times, a little bit of a tone deafness about how the regular Schmoe might be functioning out there in the world. Would that be fair, a fair assessment occasionally, you know? Absolutely, but the kind of work you guys do, I mean, takes a whole lot of research and dedication, so it's not as easy as he might think it might be. Oh, I can assure you.

I can assure you of that. And I don't think that's what Chris was alluding to, but there is sometimes a lot of that. But actually, I had to tell you, this is kind of a Republican myth all the time. And I'm a Republican, so I'm just admitting being honest that this is our myth that everybody pulls himself up by their bootstraps no matter what. And, you know, even if your bootstraps were eaten by the rats within the system, you know, that kind of thing. But yeah, you know, I get it. No, I just understand sometimes we can be a little bit tone deafness and cheeriness about free markets and free this and everybody, you know, everybody can be,

everybody can be that billionaire, you know, that kind of thing. It's like, I don't know. There's a, there are some limitations out there. Everybody has limitations of one form or another. There we go. Agreed. All right. Thanks for the call.

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I want to stack some more if I can. Just squeeze a little bit more in there. But you do what you want. All right. Jay Austenbrokers.com, Fortunereserve.com, Fortunereserve.com. They're the people to trust there. Jay Austin. Hi, this is Cassie with Clauseur drilling. Many wells in Southern Oregon have been declining in recent years. 2787. Hi, I'm Matt from Dusty's Transmissions. I'm on 106.7, KMED. 20B48, former state senator Herman Barrett-Sigger on the show. How you doing this morning, Herman? We always talk a little politics every Tuesday. Our thanks. Good morning, yep. You know, we're,

just kind of working our way through February and spring is around the corner. Yeah, indeed. Now if we can just get a little bit of a little bit of snow, get some water tucked away, but that's another story. We can't fix that. I had a curiosity, when you were a state senator, was there any talk about actually truly building more reservoirs? Because Oregon stupidly, in my opinion, wants to keep going down to, well, we're going to store water by, while we just pray for snow every year.

because a lot of times we'll still always get the rain. Sometimes we just don't always get the snow. It just would make more sense to me to be building more ponds out there, so to speak, and reservoirs. I know that we're not really big on that because the state just seems to hate anything with a dam in it, I guess. Is that it? Well, yeah, the environmental community started turning public opinion back in the late 60s, And so, you know, prior to that, public opinion was very pro-dame, very pro-water storage and stuff, but then it swung.

And the environmental community put a lot of effort into that. So the environmental community is in love with drought and actually being just, you know, dry without water, you know, to grow and or just live, right? Is that, that's their thing? They're big on that? If you're asking me to explain the mind of an environmentalist, I struggle with that. Okay. All right. We'll set that aside.

It's always curious about that. What is your overall impression of this so-called short session? I mean, what a lie, first off, that the people actually believe the state legislature when they said that, oh, we're going to have this short session, and we're just going to do little touch-ups on budgets, things like that. What are you saying? Well, I think the biggest... really disappointment and in your face is them whittling away at this initiative petition. So let's talk about it.

There's two ways the public gets to take care of the business. So we are a Democratic Republic. So we elect a representative to represent us in the legislature. However, when the citizens do the initiative process, is which where they go out, and gather signatures, and when they do that, it should be hands off. The citizens have now said, we don't want you handling our business. We're going to do it ourselves. Now, you can question the wisdom of that, but if you're going to have a citizen initiative, the legislature should stay completely out of it, right? That's right, and not meddle in it and do all the things that Tina

Kotech. Now, remember, Tina Kotech is not a manager or by any. means or understands business or economics. She is an activist. She has her only job she has had in her entire life that I know of, okay? So that's why she's doing these things. Now, the other way is a referendum. A referendum is where the legislature says, boy, this is a pretty hot item. We don't want to deal with it. So they refer it to the citizens. And once they do that, it's hands off. The citizens get to handle it. So I think it's just absolutely, I don't know, I don't even know what the word is. It's so bad that the legislature is meddling with this initiative process.

Now, is there, does this actually make sense the way some like Kevin Starritt had mentioned to me on an email that I shared yesterday, that the meddling could even go so far as to, all right, they don't, they being the Democrats, don't pass the date change until the end of the session, the very end of the session, right? And then Tina Kotech drags it out for another 30 days or however long that she has in order to sign the bill. And then it becomes next to impossible to be able to get a credible amount of arguments on the bill, on the initiative into the voters pamphlet in time. Is that a reasonable theory of what might be going on to? it would not surprise me at the least. These people can be evil. And also remember something. This is a little bit, this is my observation over the years, and it's a difference between a conservative thinking person and a liberal thinking person. A conservative thinking person kind of likes to let people live their lives and do whatever they want to do to the, you know. But they don't want to have to live under the thumb of other people's lives either.

And the liberals absolutely believe in their heart that they know more than the citizens and that they need to take care of the citizens. Very paternalistic, a very paternalistic point of view then. Absolutely. And that's what's going on right now. There's no question in my mind. So I, you know, but on the flip side, it really is the responsibility of the voters, and they just keep electing these people.

And, you know, somebody asked me, do you think Kotech will get reelected? And I said, yes, because I really believe that the Democrats at the north end of the state will actually go down with the ship before they'll change, before they'll learn to swim. Let's put it that way. They will go down with the ship. It's absolutely mind-boggling. I would agree with you on that, and it's not that I am unhappy, that I wouldn't be happy to see a Republican win. I'm just talking about it's a math problem that we're still looking at here in Oregon. And so even the independents tend to swing left in this state, don't they?

When you look overall at the statistic. It depends on what district. If they're in a left-leaning district, they tend to lean left. If they're in a right-leaning district, they tend to lean right. But generally speaking, it would be a high lift, even if Jesus were running against Tina Kotech to probably dislodge her from office, wouldn't you say? Yeah, and let me give me an example. Why? Over the last 10 years, I've been watching the people in Moat Loma County. So they're not even, it has nothing to do with the legislature, has to do with their county. They have enacted policy after policy and tax after tax until now there's a second. highest tax community in the United States. And they did it to themselves, Bill. Yeah, this was not something which was imposed on them. They volunteered for this.

And these are the bulk of people who end up choosing the governor later this year, right? That's right. And so, hey, I don't know how to fix that, you know. I just don't. Yeah. And I would have to figure, they're talking about Oregon being a net, people or more people are moving into Oregon right now that are moving out. You've read those stories, no doubt. Correct? You've heard about that? Yep. Yep. You can't tell me, or it wouldn't make sense to think, that a whole bunch of red rock conservatives are moving into Oregon.

I would have to, I don't know, but I would highly doubt it. Because most people knowing about Oregon's politics right now would be saying, well, Well, boy, that's really rough. Yeah, I'm going to go in there and I'm going to join the minority of Republicans and we're going to turn Oregon red. That's not what's happening in this country right now. It appears like the blues are getting blueres and the reds are getting redder. Isn't that a fair assessment of where we're going?

Yes, it is. And I just, yeah, I don't believe that at all. I just don't. I think, you know, all you've got to do is look at all these businesses that are going, and they keep going, and they keep going, and they keep going. Just look at, you know, I was thinking, little old Josephine County, when Boersma pulled out with Dutch brothers. Boy, talk about that canary in the coal mine.

It was a huge one, wasn't it? Well, yeah, but it goes deeper than that, Bill. And people aren't talking about it. So just in my little community, Josephine County, 87,000 people, that was about how, somewhere around a $25 million payroll. So that was $25 million and was getting injected right here into grants past Josephine County. That's all gone. And how many times does that get circulated through the economy of Josephine County?

Yeah, you think the multiplier effect of that $25 million payroll, that's serious. That is not a small amount of money for any county. No. And nobody, nobody said nothing. Nobody tried to persuade Travis Borsma to reconsider? No. No one did. Nobody.

Now, I know you're friends with him, so you know this for sure then, right? Yeah, I, you know, people say, oh, well, you know, they wanted to move to Arizona, and new CEOs from Arizona and all that. That probably is some of that is true, but I believe that Travis would have gotten a flying lark and everything, a good chunk of that. corporation would have stayed here. Okay. The state made it clear through flying lark that we're not going to help you in any way,

shape, or form. Forget about it. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But, you know, him and his wife, you know, they were raised here. They love it here. They look at what he has done to this community with the soccer fields and all the money he has just given to the community. And then nothing, cricket, you know.

Now, let me ask you. A serious question, though, about Travis. See, we're doing a post-mortem on this right now because they're gone, all right? No, Dutch Browers corporate is gone now. Do you think that the state of Oregon intentionally chose not to help Travis Moresma or even try to persuade him to stay here, specifically because he was in Southern Oregon and didn't want anything? They weren't about to bend any rules or pull a string or do anything that could have helped a bit of prosperity come in areas that they're trying to take over politically. And I'm sorry to put it into a cynical political question, but I still can't help it wonder.

And I still couldn't tell you what Travis Borsma's politics are. I've never had the opportunity to talk to him. Well, no, I'm going to say no, because they did the same thing with the folks at Columbia Sports. We're in Portland. Oh. They didn't try to keep them, and they were liberal as hell, and they're leaving. So I just, I, like I said, the governor is an activist, and if you, if you don't fall into her people, then she don't care.

So you're either handing out needles to street people, or you're not on Tina Kotech's Christmas card list. Is that kind of what you're telling me? I actually believe that they will, all they want to do is focus in on the low-end, low-income people, and they think that that's their base. And as long as they continue with that base and get them to vote, that's all they have to worry about. The biggest priority at Tina Kotech is stay in power. It's just how it is. And the Democrats in Maltonoma County will go down with the ship.

And I agree. I think it's a... They will go down with the ship. I mean, you look at state... Look where New York went. They're kind of trying to crawl out of it, but the businesses left, and now all of a sudden they went, oh, oh, oh, we've got to give all these... Oh, we're going to give all kinds of incentives for businesses to move here.

Yeah. Well, this is as all the Wall Street forms are leaving Washington, not Washington, New York City, and they're relocating to Florida, and they actually have bigger... offices in Florida now than they used to on Wall Street. Fascinating. What's going on? Yeah, and they're this stupid. They believe now we're going to give all kinds of tax incentives and the businesses are saying, really? You think I'm going to come and put in a couple hundred million dollars and then in five years you're going to change your mind and we're going to go right the other direction again? See, that's the point though, Herman. The best tax incentives in a state like

Oregon would be to not beat you up in the first place. Isn't that the best incentive just to be decent? You know, one of these days, I'm going to snoop around and see if I can't find my floor speech on the grocery seat stack because that's the one that's really driving them out. And that's exactly what I said on that floor speech is that eventually businesses are tired of doing that. And I think, I think Kruger announced something that they're leaving or they're taking a bunch out because, you know, the gross receipts tax is, it's rated on your gross receipt. And if you only have a 3% margin, that's pretty bad. That's a big tax.

Yeah. Now, I was wrong when I was talking about gross receipts at first. I thought that they were taxing supermarkets that way, but apparently they got a carve-out like some other businesses did. But not to the people that supply the food to the supply the food to the supermarkets. supermarket. Oh, really? So that's, so that's where it comes in. So if you're, so if you're a distributor, you know, a job or a food distributor or something like that, you pay it. It's just the supermarket, the end supermarket that doesn't have to pay the gross receipts, right? Right. Like I've always said,

that it's a sales tax before it comes in the door. Yeah. Yeah. And so they just say, we're done. We're done. We're done. And when does it end? I told you last week. So I've been kind of involved for about 20 years, pretty close, listening to the rail. And every year, it's a new tax and a gun bill, a new tax. You can, oh, you can just. There's always a gun bill. Yeah, what's the tax bill going to be? Or tax bills. And what's the gun bill going to be? And every single year. How much can they explain? from the person that has to go to work every day. I don't know.

I don't know. I was going to ask you on a personal matter here, Herman. The temporary board in Josephine County has yet to choose to new county commissioners, right? Yeah, it doesn't seem to be a priority. We haven't had a board of county commissioners now in over 40 days, I think it is. Okay. All right. So nothing's happened with this.

And what was interesting, you and I were talking about how they turned this in almost like a job application. Did you submit a resume? Well, I did, but the interesting thing, you had to go through their computer system. So it's a nationwide, you know, government job website type of thing. Why would they put that on a nationwide job site? Because you can't go nationwide for this. You have to be a Josephine County resident. For six months prior, yeah.

So that didn't make any sense. I know. And then I'm not an academia. You know, I don't have a master's degree and I don't have a bachelor's degree. I love that, how they were suggesting that if you had a doctorate degree and maybe three years' experience or something like that for a political position, that's great. Right. Yeah, this is a political position. When you go, it doesn't make any sense to me because if you go to file for that position at the county,

clerk, the only thing you have to prove is that you were resident Josephine County the prior six months. That's it. That's the only thing. And so anyways, they go through this. And, you know, I submit it. It's really interesting, AI, right? So you submit your, you create your resume, you turn it in, you download it, and then this computer program tries to populate it into their program, and then you go through and make edit. Well, a political resume is impossible to populate. So it just leaves it out. And that's what it is.

It's a political position. How much government experience do you have? Yeah. So anyways, so it took like three hours because you've got to go. And it's still not right. There's just, there's no way to get all your stuff on your resume into this computer system, you know. Now, the one good thing is at the end, you can download your, again, you can download your resume, and supposedly they can actually look at the paper copy.

Whether that happens or not, I don't know, Bill. Well, you think your chances are getting selected by this temporary board, because you had mentioned that the real schism in Josephine County is that you have these other elected officials and, and dare we say, department heads that really think that they should be running the county, right? Well, yes, and I agree with Ron Smith. You know, he was the first one to really come out and put it in the newspaper. They call it the scum group, and it's basically made up a department heads. And they're pretty arrogant.

They just say, you know, commissioners come and go, but we're here all the time, so we need to have more influence on how the county's run than the commissioners. And so what they're saying is they're looking for somebody that has a government experience on how understand how government works because it's the institution and how things work within and everything. And they want somebody has a lot of experience with that. Well, I just come out of the commissioner's office and I've been involved with government a long time. And I served on the airport board for about 15 years as the chair. I was chair of the Forestry Board, the chair of the Agriculture Board, and I was the chair of the River Road Reserve, which is the city of grants. I've been involved in Josephine County government since the 80s. Yeah, the problem, though, is that you actually think the Josephine County Commission should actually be doing the decisions of the Josephine County Commission and not be run by the department heads, though, right?

Exactly. And now the department heads are the ones that are in charge. Thank you very much. Commissioner Smith, to choosing who's going to be the next commissioner, or the two commissioners, I guess. Right. And so I predict, I literally predict, if they don't choose me and they choose somebody, and I don't know who the applicants are, but from the first batch of applicants, I was really the only one that met that criteria, but I don't know who else is. I don't know.

But if they choose somebody that has never been in government, never been elected, and hasn't been involved with Josephine County. Oh, you know what that's indicating. That's indicating that the scum group that wants to, in other words, the department heads that think that they should be running everything, that means that they're winning. That's what happens. And the first sign of that will be, is in short order, they will hire those department heads that were fired.

They will hire them back and give them all their perks and positions again. That will be the first sign that you know. Who's in charge? It's no longer the commissioners. All right. Point well taken. Herman, keeping in the room, as always, and we'll talk again. I always enjoy the analysis, okay? Take care. All right, you too. Former State Senator Herman Berchiger on KMED and KMED HD-1 Eagle Point Metford.

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