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Episode Date: February 18, 2026

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This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausur drilling.com. That's 770 KMED. Now more with Bill Meyer. A few minutes ago I was talking with listener Logan. He was talking about that case of the street preacher who was making too much noise in downtown Medford. And yeah, we can have arguments about that.

But you know what I think is a more serious issue is to where the culture may be going, especially when it comes to AI, artificial intelligence. And I wanted to bring on Martin Moyer. He's the president of the Christian Action Network, and he has what's called a Patriot Majority Report. And it's on Substack, and I'll get all that up on KMED.com. But first things first, Martin, welcome to the show. Good morning.

Well, thanks for having me on, Bill. I'm glad to be here. Tell us a little bit about yourself. Like I said, we'll have your substack information and the Christian Action Network. Are you the Christian Action Network, or is it really a network of like-minded folks? What do you say? Well, that's a tough question to answer. We've been around for over 40 years.

We have a sizable staff here in Pittsburgh, Virginia, and we do network with many patriots out there across America. But we don't have chapters in various states. So they all kind of like come right back to the organization. But they're pretty active donors and supporters out there for us. I wanted to talk about what you were talking about in your article, which is the AI agent, the rise of the AI agent, which I find fascinating. And I'll just give you a little prelude. Earlier this morning, I heard a mainstream news media account

in which Facebook is talking about keeping your account alive. after you die. After you die, the, I guess, artificial intelligence would effectively keep it alive, and it would still do comments, and it might do work on your behalf. And I'm thinking, my gosh, this is exactly what Martin was talking about, or at least I think it's a part of what you're talking about, isn't it, in this article? All right. Yeah, it's absolutely what I'm not only talking about, but warning about. Facebook brings up something very interesting here and very disturbing because if you have one of these agents that obviously Facebook's creating their own, you could die and then two weeks later you could be sending out posts from your account. Now, that would be rather disturbing for people that love you, that know you, and go, hey, I thought Bill died two weeks ago, but he just sent me a post.

Yeah. He just wished me, happy birthday. So, yeah, that's pretty disturbing. But let's talk about what these AI agents are. I'm sorry, it's going to ring in here, but it will stop it in just a few. Yeah, the AI agent, what is an AI agent when you hear that? Because we think of agents normally as there's a human or there's a person that we have contracted with and they represent us. So what's the AI agent?

Well, you know, an AI agent's almost like a person. And you have to be careful to separate that it is not a who, but it is a what. But in this particular case, what I'm warning about in the article is that Chris Morsalek, he's the CEO of Crypto.com. He just dumped $70 million to buy a domain name called A.I.com. Now, what his goal is is to build AI agents that are basically your digital twin. Now, how does that happen? So these agents, once you get one, well, go through your email, goes to everything on your computer, what you look at, how you talk, what you watch, what you watch, how you write, how you respond to other emails. And it says, oh, I know what Bill sounds like.

I know how he reacts. I know when he gets mad, what makes him happy. I know what kind of jokes he tells. Now, that AI agent, if you manage to start writing the emails for you, will automatically write emails that come into your account. So someone like me could email you, Bill, and it's used to how you respond to guests like me emailing you. You won't even have to respond back to me. It'll say, oh, this is Martin Moyer by emailing Bill about the upcoming show. I know how Bill typically responds to Martin.

I know how Martin typically responds to Bill, and I'm going to write this email the way Bill would sound. Now, take that and multiply it a hundred times because I also say, oh, I know Bill likes to buy stock. Here's the stock option that he probably was. Are you seriously? Are they honestly talking about then people having AI agents to manage your money and buy stocks? Stocks that they think that you would like, right? Absolutely. Absolutely.

Hold on. They will actually say, oh, you don't like this type of news. Let me scan the Internet and find out what kind of news that's out there that he typically looks at, response to. I'll gather all those up, and I'll send him an email in the morning with these newslet. These things are absolutely brilliant. and it's so brilliant, they're actually scary to me. Well, are they brilliant or able to mimic brilliancy just by, you know, they turning you into an algorithm instead of a human?

Well, that's a judgment question, but in my judgment, they're absolutely brilliant. They're remarkably brilliant. And not only is that, but once you have one of these AIs, and some people are doing this, they're putting them on a platform called Malt. book. And that... What is that called again, Martin, because I just lost your phone a little bit. It was a little bit mushy.

It's called Malt Book, M-O-T-B-O-O-K. Is that like molting like an insect, molting, that kind of thing? Yeah. Well, I'm assuming that's what the designer intended because there's a picture of a turtle on, you know, the screen when you pull it up. But these AI agents exist there, and they talk to each other.

They rationalized with each other. They plot out things with each other. They will actually go onto Twitter and post a comment there, wait for someone to respond to it, and then respond to that comment without the person who owns that agent, even knowing they did it. These agents are absolutely brilliant. And so they are basically designed them to do almost anything that you want.

that can be done with a computer. But it is you. In this case, what Marcelect is doing, unlike most agents, that are not trying to be your digital twin, this one really is your digital twin because it follows you around. It knows how you talk, it knows how you respond. And so it keeps that personality. It basically says, hey, I want to create another bill. and I want everything that I do to be exactly the way Bill would do it.

And if you're not careful, you can get into trouble with these agents. For instance, you can set these agents up to plan your travel plane. And they can actually buy a ticket for you that you pay for. And if you're not paying attention to what they're doing, they could land you in an airport where you got less than five minutes to run from one terminal across to the other end of the airport to another terminal to catch a plate. I would also imagine that if you're not paying attention, that your AI agent could bankrupt you too

because it knows what you like, and then it will just give you more of what you like and to hell with your credit in your accounts. Maybe I'm not worrying too much about that, just saying. Well, it could actually send out messages to people that thinks that you like on Facebook and post comments to some females it thought, oh, they'll probably like this female because I've seen them respond to these types of females in the past. And you have no idea that you just sent a message.

You know, Martin, isn't this another example of high-tech via AI just wanting to make us go crazy? And I'm serious when I say this because it's like it's designed to make you not believe anything you see. or here. Because if you have the rise of AI agents, these are algorithms talking back and forth with one another. And then I find myself time and time watching videos, reading stories, and saying, okay, what's the truth? What's the reality? Where's the human in this? It's almost like they're trying to usher in this kind of world in which, you know, humans, sorry humans, you're just not good enough. Is that fair to bring the I think you're underestimating the psychological impact.

And the reason why is because, yes, they look like humans, they sound like humans. But what's psychological about it is that they are so convincing that they are human, it's hard to disassociate yourself from the fact that they are not human. And you start to treat them as humans. Well, it's like when people say, please, to Siri, I want to smack people upside the head. when I hear them, you know, talk to a chatbot or an assistant like that, you know? Right, because the chatbox do not understand the word please in the same way humans understand it. It's a polite word, they know it, but it matters not to them.

You can use it or not use it. It's not going to affect how they respond to you. But it's a habit that we have. But here's what the agents know is that because you did use the word please, it now says, oh, he uses the word please when he's responding to a message. So I'll be sure when I write this email, if the word please fits here, I will use please because Bill uses the word please. If you don't use the word please, when you're talking to use that box, it'll be sending out emails that sound less polite than what you really are because it says Bill never uses that word.

So you have to monitor these things. And my point is just that if you, as these things do, these remarkable things, such as trading stocks, they book your travel, they send your email, they make financial decisions for you, and you're not paying 100% attention to exactly what they did, then there are all kinds of errors that could happen. But if you do have to pay attention, then you might as well just do it yourself. Well, that's what I was wondering. It's like, okay, you're going to have to be careful about your AI because the AI is supposedly going to lessen your workload, but then you have to watch the AI like a hawk. The AI, agent like a hawk, so what is actually gained out of something like this other than, well,

the fact that Big Tech has even more data on you and is probably able to sell you even more things, which the AI agent will then go by on your behalf, I guess. Yeah, and here's another scary thing that we haven't talked about is that they're now developing AI agents that will contract with other agents to get work done that they don't know how to do. So, for instance, you could get an AI agent and there may be a section on that board that says enable, advanced task automation. Now, most people aren't even going to know what that means. But what it means is that you're now enabling that agent to go recruit other agents on your behalf.

So you can have, you know, five, 10, 20 other agents that you don't even know about that are operating under your name. sending out buying things that you never even spawned. But the agent itself said, oh, I need help the year, so I'm going to go buy, give me some other agents to help Bill do what he does. So you really got to know what these things do before you start investing in them or downloading them or start to use them. My word to people out there is to be very careful with them, monitor to them. They are remarkable in what they can do. I'm not telling people not to give them. I am sending out this very stark warning, though, if you do get them, be sure you watch what they are doing and how they operate, whether they're actually creating other agents on your behalf that you don't know about.

Otherwise, stay out of the business. Don't put them on your computer. I can't help think that, Martin, you know, when I was talking about how this AI revolution on some level seems to be about driving regular humanitarian. crazy in respect of what's real. If I'm sending an email out to someone and I'm getting a response back from AI that mimics everything that the other person did, I don't know if I like that future. Well, you know, I put in my article, I said you could actually, your agent could send a message out to your guts and says, happy birthday to your daughter.

and you Bill knew that that daughter died two months ago, but your agent wasn't aware of that, and now you just sent a message to your cousin, wishing a happy birthday to the daughter. How do you think your cousin's going to feel when he talks to you next time? Once again, it's like to me, the agent, if this grows to the point that you're describing in this article, by the way, the name of the article that Martin Moyer ended up writing is, now everyone can now have a twin brother or sister, and it goes in this whole AI agent agenda. But this strikes me as potentially it could be the biggest digital gaslighting that people may experience over time here, in which you think you're dealing one-to-one with people and you're dealing with AI agents instead.

Isn't that a problem when it comes to trust in society, societal trust? Well, that's just one of the problems. AI is making everything very deceptive. We don't know whether what we're looking at or what we're reading or what we're hearing is real anymore. It could all be fake. And because AI is built on other material that's not there in the world, it could be just using the material it's writing to learn more about how to write in the future. So it's a very complex system, how AI operates,

and how it performs its functions. And if you study it closely, which we do here, there's a lot of infrastructure that's being built. That's going to be very confusing for people. But, you know, in the end times, it's going to be a remarkable tool for anybody that wants to rule the world. Okay, now, that's a very interesting statement there, that AI in the end times would be a very interesting way to rule the world.

How would you put some meat on that bone, if you don't mind. Well, through AI, the only way to control over 200 countries in the world is to be able to implement a system, a legal system, that is enforceable through 200 countries in the world. And only AI has the current capability to be able to do that. So you could have a global government with AI. AI could say, it would say, oh, I followed Bill's emails. I know he's a Christian.

therefore we will mark him down to someone that can either buy or sell during this time period unless he takes the mark of the beast. Because it has read your email. It knows who you are. It knows where you live. And you're immediately identified the AI system to do an incredible amount of civilians on people. It does not trust under its new government because AI is basically a civilian system. Even right now, Google, if you send an email through Google, Google reads your email to whoever you sent it to. Then it reads the response back that you got from whoever you sent it to.

It remembers that detailed information. It's surveillance, and it logs it in. So now it has a record, a digital record, of your conversation back and forth. So the surveillance of what AI can do is remarkable in the hands of someone's. that wants to rule the world. Martin, could you stand by and answer a couple of listener questions or inquiries here? Just a moment. I don't know if you have this.

Do you have someone else coming up here? I know we're kind of going over time right now, but I'm fascinated by this. Can you how? I'm very good. I got a noon radio interview, so that's 25 minutes away. Okay, good. I'll make sure I'll be right back with Martin Moyer once again. This is the Bill Meyer show.

When Italian food sounds good and when doesn't it, the road. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. And getting my eyes open a little bit to the AI agent and the growth of that. Martin Moyer is back with me. He's president of the Christian Action Network. Hey, before I get to the calls here, Martin, I'm kind of curious. You're talking about how the AI agents are now being designed to essentially do all your work for you.

And, you know, in some respects, is this how we end up getting, how it'll be sold to us under, this is our Star Trek future in which people will have what they need. Everybody will be provided what they need. I always remember like Captain Picard and his view of Star Trek socialism in the future. Is that kind of what they're thinking about the high-tech world going this? Absolutely. But what you and I have been talking about is large language model AI. What we have not talked about is physical AI.

Those are the robots, the vacuum cleaners that operate off of the AI. Those ones are even more scary than what a large language model AI is because they have the ability to move. They have the ability to become dangerous to you. And also, as we're now seeing, constructing more of itself. That's the most interesting thing about the latest iteration of chat GPT that I was reading, is that the latest iteration of chat GPT was created by the older. version of chat gpt. See what I'm getting at?

Oh yeah. So AI learns from itself and it's able to code itself. So as a matter of fact, Zuckerberg just laid up thousands of AI employees because it said, well, AI has now learned how to do the job. These AI experts were doing. Do the tech bros just really not care about humanity? They really do think that our consciousness is little more than just, well, like our brain is just a chemical computer? Is that what they think?

You think? Let me answer that question simply with the demonstration. Have you ever looked at your phone and wonder why the update is there to begin with and how do you use the new update? Why was it downloaded? Look, these tech people just do stuff just to be doing stuff. So they operate on a principle in the world that you and I do not exist. If it can be done, then they're going to try to do it.

And there's never any question of whether it should be done. that it can be done and will be. Hmm. All right. Absolutely right. Okay. Martin Morier, once again, president of the Christian Action Network, a really interesting article there,

and I just want to make sure and hit that up. It's called Now Everyone can now have a twin brother or sister, and it's on the Christianaction.org website. Deplorable Patrick, you're here with Martin. Go ahead. Question? Fire away.

Well, I want to say that this AI thing is satanic, and I've never embraced it. However, why fight it? I think I'll start a new career robbing banks. I won't even have to wear a mask. I'll go in there and rob the bank, and then when I get in the court, I say, Your Honor, you got that security tape. It shows me robbing the bank, but that's just AI generated.

It wasn't really me. That's right. It's the AI agent. That's an interesting take. What say you, Martin? Well, the caller just raised an interesting point. I often load imagery up to AI to see if it can detect whether it's real or whether it's fake. And I would say probably 75% of the time it knows whether it is real or fake or I know it,

so I can verify whether it gave me the correct answer. But sometimes the AI is so perfect in what it has graphically displayed that the AI gets it wrong. And it does not know whether it's real or fake. So, you know, I say to go in and say, yeah, that wasn't me. Look, you're going to probably be seeing a lot of that nowadays, right? Any compromising image out there that even if the person did it, the first thing they're going to claim is not, oh, my phone was back. Oh, no, my image was back. Well, what about that online video that was generated that's causing so much controversy?

Oh, is it Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt fighting each other? You saw that one recently? I'm sure you did. You probably did. No, I missed that one. Yeah, yeah. And it was done by an AI tool, and it was very good, the argument that they were having about. And this is where I get concerned about sanity, where we humans, biological intelligence,

ends up existing in this soup of artificial intelligence, and somehow we lose our humanity, or maybe even our purpose for living under the guise of, well, needing some of these tools to make my job easier, let's say. or make it work out. I'm just looking, I'm looking at the positives and the downsides of his two, because I can say, hey, you know, boy, if I turn over a guest scheduling to artificial intelligence, then I wouldn't have to be worried about those kind of things anymore here, Martin. See what I getting that? You were talking about having an AI agent negotiate on my behalf, right? But I think we need to look at this in what I think is a proper perspective, is that there's nothing inherently evil about AI anymore than anything is inherently evil about a knife

that some people go out and stab people with, or a car that some people go out and put a bomb in to blow things up with. Any technology, and probably any invention you can think of has been used for evil purposes. Now, AI certainly has the ability to amplify that evilness, because it has technology in it that is, well, close to almost nuclear-level bomb type of technology in it. So it can be used for true evil. But by itself, it is not. evil. It can't be used for good. And people will be using it to do good thing. Do you think it is a good thing, though, when you have the high-tech world openly talking about artificial intelligence, and some are saying this is actually being underappreciated or

undersold, that the entry-level jobs for, let's say, 40 to 60 percent of white-collar jobs are going to be gone within the next year or two? This is very close, not just, you know, off in the distance. Elon must predict it that there's going to be more AI robots on Earth than there's going to be humans in the next 40 years. Now, that might sound like an exaggeration, but anything coming from Elon Musk always happens. I mean, who in the world would have said, I want to...

Well, everything happens except the reliable Tesla, okay? All right, but anyway. Yeah. Okay. Good point. But, you know, I think he makes an interesting point that humanity itself is going to be secondary. It already is becoming secondary in a one-on-one relationship. Most of us hide behind our computer screens or our telephone screens or our TV screens

and physical interaction with other people just doesn't occur like it did, well, when I was growing up for sure. So you got all these robots out there that are now going to go to work. for you. You don't have to go to work. The robot's going to do the work for you. But then the robots could at some point, but robots eventually are programmed to be self-aware enough to the point. Well, why do we need the humans for? What's the point? We don't need them. Well, that probably won't happen. If you understand how AI really works and commands these robots, they wouldn't make that decision on their own, but it's certainly possible for a beast to make that decision for those robots.

All right, looking at it from the, yeah, the Christian. point of view, end times, end times theology. All right. Hi, good morning. You're on with Martin Maillier. Morning, who's this? This is Minor Dave. Yeah, Dave. I wanted to say I believe we're in the middle of AI wars because

I use Gork and I posed a question to it and then I posted to Jim and I because they give it to me for free. I'm beta testing both of them and even Gemini says Gork and X-A-I is winning the battle right now. Yeah, I don't know about that. And you're going to get different responses from different of these AI platforms that are out there.

And it depends on how the question was phrased because each one of these different AI units, whether it's anthroponic or Claude or Opus or OpenAI, or GROC or whatever, all have unique things that they do better than the other ones. So to put them all up together and say which one's best, you really can't answer that question in reality because some exceeded things better than other ones. And all of them have failings and all of them have things that do better than other ones. So it just depends on how the question was asked. I'm talking with Martin Moyer once again.

Hello, caller. You're on. Who's this? Yeah, this is Wayne Grispass Yes, Wayne What does he think about the auto pin? I mean, maybe an AI agent was actually the auto pen. That's a really interesting question, yeah, back in the Biden administration. Nobody's really copped who actually signed the, you know, the petitions for pardon. And consider that.

Well, you know, someone somewhere knows who signed those things for sure. And whether it will get down to the bottom of it, I don't know. No. But the question about the autopin is sort of like the question we're having about your AI twin, right? Right. Because it's making decisions for you. Basically, you could have it set up that, oh, well, Joe Biden typically says yes to this executive order, and it makes that decision for him. Now, AI agents were prevalent back during his administration like they are now, but you certainly could nowadays have an auto-veillance. pin set up that would sign things for you. You could do that right now if you want and say,

you know, if I get a contract in, looks like X, Y, and Z, go ahead and sign it. And it says, oh, well, typically Bill signs contracts like this. So I'm going to go ahead and auto pin things that you're into this. You know, this is fascinating and terrifying all the same time, isn't it? Yeah, it really is. It's spooky. It's Twilight Zone, for sure. Yeah, I wasn't hoping that science fiction movies were actually being used as an instruction manual for such matters. But apparently, that's kind of the world we're living in. This sounds very much like a potential if you ended up having, as you would term it, the beast, beast power taking something like that. Isn't this kind of a, the beginning of the matrix then, of the matrix type? I believe so, but going back to your shows, I'm always

amused that I think the only show ever on television that accurately predicted the future, the Jetsons. Go back and watch the Jetsons and see how many things the Jetsons knew was going to be in the future that are now real. When I grew up, I watched the Jetson, I'm citing. They're actually talking to someone live on their television screen. That just seemed impossible at the time. It's so out of, you know, extraordinary. But, you know, it had vacuum cleaners that would automatically vacuum your floor in the Jetsets. Hello, Ruba. buying cards. Hello, Rooba.

Yeah. That's the show to watch. If you want to know what the future is going to be, just go back to watch that cartoon. Besides, it's the fun cartoon to watch. Yeah. I guess my concern, though, is that there seems to be a, under the guise of helping humanity, it strikes me as ultimately more likely to be used to go against humanity's overall wishes or best interests. because it's not.

Yes, the infrastructure is being built, Bill, for sure. The infrastructure for the coming one world government is being built right before our eyes. And I encourage people to come to our Patriot Majority Report newsletter by signing this on the front page of our Christianexam.org website, because we are following AI and we are analyzing how AI will affect not only prophecy, but how it will affect your religious freedoms. And so stay on top of this and keeping an eye out for these things, I think it's something we should all do, and we should warn other Christians about.

I think it's a reasonable way of looking at this. Christianaction.org is the website. And I know you have another interview coming up, so I don't want to take any more your time, but I appreciate this thought-provoking talk, you know, as is, because I see the positives of this, but I also see a real downside to this, too, which high-tech seems to be doing.

doing its best to just soft pedal and nothing to work. And that's the thing, Bill. High tech is not going to tell you the dangers, and that's what we're here for. They're going to tell you all the glorified things that it can do. When you spend $70 million just to buy a domain name, $70 million for their name A.I.gov, no one in the world has ever spent $70 million to buy up a domain name, and they're going to create agents with it. That begins to tell you that these people are never going to be able to do that.

talk bad about AI. They're going to pump it up. They're going to tell you what wonderful things you can do for you, but they're never going to issue the warning. And someone has to issues the warning. Someone's got to be the watchman on the wall, and that's what Christian Nex Network is doing. We're being that watchman.

Martin, great talk. Appreciate that, and we'll have you back. Thank you. Thanks, Bill. Talk to you later. Bye-bye. 850. If you want to save money on your cell phone plans, 279, for 7 grand off at Kia, Medford. Click Giamedford.com.

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It is Fortunereserve.com. Interesting conversation on the AI agent, the rise of that and the push for that. And I'm just utterly fascinated and kind of terrified by that. I see both sides of it. Alan writes me this morning saying, hey, Bill, AI, this AI is a tool of Satan. He comes before Christ. We are very close. Yeah, I have a lot of people are feeling that way.

You know, until then, though, we can at least go out and enjoy a little bit of this wonderful world that God has to offer. In fact, I'll give you an example of it right now. You know, this weekend we have the Sportsman and Outdoor Recreation Show at the Expo. It's going to be a lot of fun. All sorts of you know what's going on here. And I'd like to send you to it. I'm going to start with giving away some tickets at 770 563. I'm going to give away a few pair of tickets for this.

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