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Episode Date: February 20, 2025

Jo CoGOP Chair Holli Morton reports the homelessness topic at the Wednesday Grants Pass City Council Meeting. Reaction to that and other open phones, Sam Diana Anderson presents another event Friday a...t CP Library - more on the Zero Growth City scam/plan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. 14 after 8. Just wanted to give you an update from Chaos Central. Breaking news from the New York Times. Trump team plans deep cuts at office that funds recovery from big disasters. Did you hear that? Big disasters.
Starting point is 00:00:35 Of course, this is the New York Times, but I at least want you to be up on what the enemy camp is saying. Trump administration plans to all but eliminate the office that oversees America's recovery from the largest disasters, raising questions about how the United States will rebuild from hurricanes, wildfires and other calamities made worse by climate change. Oh, you mean the same people that haven't gotten aid over to North Carolina? Right. You know, all those those these kind of people, apparently the Office of Community Planning and Development, part of the Department of Housing and Urban Development, pays to rebuild homes and other recovery efforts after the country's worst disasters, such as Hurricane Helene in North Carolina. You really want to bring that up?
Starting point is 00:01:17 And Hurricane Milton in Florida. They plan to cut that staff by 84%. Now, I'm sure that Doge is saying we're going to find some way to do it more efficiently and having perhaps more workers and fewer chiefs. Maybe that's what's going on. I don't know. But the New York Times says, as disasters have grown more frequent and severe,
Starting point is 00:01:38 HUD's disaster recovery program has become central to the country's strategy for coping with climate change. Maybe that's why they're cutting it, because they're going to cut a lot of people that are pushing housing for fighting climate change rather than just getting aid to people who need aid. I could be wrong about this, but I just wanted to let you know what the new york times had to say the world is coming to an end and yet another attack on our democracy let's go to holly morton holly morton of course josephine county republican party chair but you were at the grants pass city council meeting last
Starting point is 00:02:18 night and holly arguably city of grants Pass has been targeted for elimination, I think, from the political left, in my view, or at least one of the key people off base up there. What happened when it comes to seeking out new places to have the gentle homeless encampments? What do you say? Well, what happened is, you know, we've got a temporary stay imposed by the judge, which was kind of invited upon us by the former mayor, oddly enough, you know, who apparently participated in helping a group of people. I thought that was an interesting story that the former mayor of Bristol ended up, you know, getting involved in this. Hmm. All right. That speaks for itself right there. But, you know, any former mayor would be involved in creating a lawsuit in some way. But anyway, that aside, city members got a chance to speak about what area they thought they wanted to end up in.
Starting point is 00:03:17 And so they didn't want to – they don't want the homeless encampments in the parks, and they don't want them in the – you know, right next know right next to businesses and things i mean basically nobody wants them in their neighborhood but what they finally ended up with is is right next to the police station on 7th street there's a location and and that's been pretty well managed they don't have some of the crime problems and so forth because of course it's right next to the police yeah having it next door to the police station could be helpful for that. Yeah, I get that. You know, how sporty are you if you're a homeless person who's, you know, having some problems? How sporty are you going to get right next door to the police department?
Starting point is 00:03:54 Right? Fair enough. And then right across, basically, you know, 6th and 7th are parallel in Grants Pass. So on 6th Street, you know, pretty much in that, you know, same location, just a block to the west. What about that Midland Avenue situation over that grass and paved surface over there? What's happening with that? Well, they didn't vote for Midland, so they only voted for the 8th Street property and then the 6th Street property and the 7th Street property. The Midland property, people were very concerned about that
Starting point is 00:04:25 because it's so close to so many schools. And that had people worried you're going to have people doing drugs and drug paraphernalia around schools and children. So there was just a huge outcry. All right. Now you were saying that 8th Street, so is that the one on East Park Street? Near the fire station? The one on Park Street, yeah, there are a couple of there, right? The one that's in Riverside Park, that was a big no because people don't want to be in the park. The one that's on Park Street is down by the fire station, and they were hoping to park vehicles there, I believe. And that one, people said absolutely no to that also. So the only ones that were agreed upon were the one on 6th and 7th, only two. Now, I don't know if that's going to be enough.
Starting point is 00:05:17 You know, we certainly don't want to have an injunction imposed, which I think is, you know, which is why they were trying to get a few more spaces. But what was really puzzling to me is there's a fantastic property up on Vine Street, which is kind of just on the border of the city and the county. That would be an excellent location. And they're talking about doing... What's around that property, though, what's the neighborhood like? Well, to the east of that property is just the freeway. Oh. And it's an eight-acre parcel, but from north to south, it's longer than it is from east to west, so to speak. So it's a big rectangular property with a bunch of outbuildings on it.
Starting point is 00:06:02 And I walked to that property not too long ago just to see what I thought it would be. And that's just a great location. But what they're looking to try to do there is get, say, U-Turn for Christ or one of those, to run the program there. Because what we need is basically a drug and alcohol program to get these people clean. Because probably between 75 and 90 percent of the people that are homeless in our town have drug and alcohol problems and so you know that doesn't get better until they you know until that disease of of uh addiction is resolved and so that would give them an opportunity to have a program there where the people could actually work yeah by the way if you
Starting point is 00:06:44 don't want to be asking holly i know you're not an official per se. You know, you're not in the government, though, with the party, but still, you're kind of plugged into it a little bit here. If you are actually drug addicted and just in great trouble, where do you go right now? Where do homeless people go for that? Is there anything available for them other than, you know, okay, if you go into a gospel rescue mission, they'll help, but you have to give up your smokes and your dog and everything else. I mean, what? What do you have to do? What can you do there?
Starting point is 00:07:16 There are small programs, but what we need is something that's big. I mean, you're talking about a couple hundred people in this town who are homeless. I'm not sure what the exact number is at the moment. They're kind of spread out. And after they closed J Street, I don't know how many of them just completely left town or they've gone up into the hills. But we've got to get them out of the hills because we don't want them, you know, starting fires and stuff up there. And there really is very little opportunity to, you know, a program where you're living in. Because it makes no sense to go in and have a little bit of counseling, and then you go back out in the streets. Yeah, and you're hanging out with your fellow fentanyl addicts near the park, right?
Starting point is 00:07:56 It's just not going to work. A drug program has to be tiered. You have to start out, you know, in a detox program where you, you know, you get off drugs and that requires a little bit of medical intervention because drug use is a very compelling problem. You know, you've got to get them off the drug first of all, and then you have to start the counseling process with them, creating an intellectual structure that allows them to understand why they use drugs and get them to stop using drugs. And it's generally tiered, where you start out with no privileges, and over time, it kind of parallels how life is. Hey, Holly, disability rights and a few homeless people
Starting point is 00:08:38 were the people that ended up suing the city again recently to do this. Are they trying to make the case, do you know, are they trying to make the case do you know are they trying to make the case that their drug and alcohol addiction is a disability or are they concerned about people who are just older and maybe just disabled in other ways not just with drug and alcohol just curious there are people who are disabled, but, and the courts are saying that, you know, it's not fair for these people to have to move all their stuff all the time. It's just a hardship for disabled persons. And those are the kind of people that in a community you really want to help. You want to help the people that are disabled and they're just, you know, I mean, having a very hard time and a very hard life.
Starting point is 00:09:25 And so that's why we're trying to find something that helps them. But certainly, you know, the people that are drug addicted, that's a whole different thing. And what they kept wanting to do was shove them all into one box, mothers with children, senior citizens, and drug addicts, you know, a hello, that's just a recipe for disaster so this other property up on vine street is eight acres which would allow them to and with a bunch of buildings one of them's a little house a home and so you could say put disabled persons in there or elderly people so you would have a place to separate mothers with children and so forth from these drug-addicted people who really, you know, I mean, I think they probably would have to have a program where you can't even get there. Well, you know, I would dare say that the vast majority of the disorderly, the theft and or the violence issue, you're dealing with the addicts, really.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I don't think there's any doubt about that. Most of that. I don't think it's, I don't think that most of the people getting beaten up or, or, uh, shoplifting things are the, uh, mothers or elderly people that just find themselves in a really bad situation right now. I don't think that's it. All together in one, one facility, you know, they were attempting to do that down in that parker street property downtown
Starting point is 00:10:45 they had buildings and you know that was very upsetting to a lot of people because the people who really need the most protection and help the mothers with children elderly people and so forth they need to be sequestered from these other you know drug addicts and so forth for their own protection well it's like putting uh it's like putting young kids in jails with hardened criminals, right? We don't do that either, right? You have a separate juvenile section for that reason, and for good reason. Yeah, we get it. So I didn't hear about that last night.
Starting point is 00:11:19 That worried me that I didn't hear much coming up about this property, and I thought, boy, that would be a great solution. And then you have what the city would do is they would own that property, and then they would have various organizations come in, each one running their own program within that property, maybe leasing a part of the land or whatever it is, running a program to solve the individual problems that we have which are many but diverse it's not like there's one homelessness problem yeah we're not taking every homeless person and dumping it in the same box like you mentioned earlier that makes
Starting point is 00:11:55 sense boy uh it um it has certainly been a real is it kind of a knockdown drag out fight over the homeless in in joe county grants pass right now well you know there are diverse opinions about how to solve the problem um and you know but the biggest problem of all of course is that that you know we are a poor county josephine county so if if you could just throw endless amounts of money at it, that would be one thing. But that's not the position this county is in. So we're watching the budget of that. And we also, because we're a poor county, we can't impose too much on the citizens of the county or the city. We need to be also careful. We can't just keep raising taxes and taxes and taxes for them to cover the expenses of the increasing homelessness population and not get to the root of the problem, which is really these people are drug addicted.
Starting point is 00:12:53 We've got to attack that problem at its base, because if you, you know, if you're just solving the symptoms all the time, you know, it's just going to continue on and on and on. You know, you're going to get these various places, and people from out of town say, well, they've got a homeless place. Let's go over there. You get pizza. You get food. You get needles. You get this. You get that. Sounds good to me.
Starting point is 00:13:13 And they go over there. And drug addiction is a very expensive problem. And so then you have the associated crime and all that, and the neighborhoods go crazy. And not to even mention mental illness, which is a big part of many homeless experiences, too. associated crime and all that and the neighborhoods go crazy. And not to even mention mental illness, which is a big part of many homeless experiences too. Well, and which comes first, the chicken or the egg? I mean, you take drugs for a short period of time, you are going to have a self-imposed mental illness. Yeah, that could be. All right. Hey, Holly, thanks for the update. And I was kind
Starting point is 00:13:39 of curious how that was going. So no knock-down, drag-out fights? People are still talking and trying to work this out? Seriously? We're trying to work it through, and it's just a huge challenge. But I do think that once they, if they can get this Vine Street property, I do think that they have a model that I think will really work. In fact, it'll be a model that you can show throughout the state and maybe throughout the country, because the program that I heard them discussing is a fantastic program for resolving the issue, which goes right to the core of the issue and not just, you know, the symptoms. Thank you, Holly. Appreciate the update. Really do. OK, you take care.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Bye bye. Josephine County Party republican republican party chair rather i should say in josephine county holly morton 828 kmd 99.3 kpxg always appreciate the update from everybody whatever they're up to i guess the jackson county we have enough money we could just throw money at it right is that how it works oh if we could all just be jackson county and then of course jackson county says well yeah look at mal, if we could all just be Jackson County. And then, of course, Jackson County says, well, yeah, look at Multnomah. We could be Multnomah County. Then we could really take care of it.
Starting point is 00:14:48 We've heard it all. That ditch was way too close to the road. You know, Fifth Wheel 25 is proudly presented by Dusty's Transmissions and by Coastal Media. The Bill Myers Show is on. News Talk 1063 KMED. Dave, you were listening to the conversation of what Grants Pass is putting up with, and I sense a little frustration. Would that be fair?
Starting point is 00:15:16 Well, look, you're right, Bill. And, look, I don't want to seem discompassionate. I don't think I am. But I'm listening to this. There were a couple things that really stood out to me. So they're looking for a location for a homeless camper in Canada. Yes. Yeah. They want to move it out of the ones that they had before. It's had some problems. They want to keep people out of the parks, et cetera. That kind of thing. And I want to have a conversation about this, Bill. I want to know what you think.
Starting point is 00:15:45 So we can't have it here because it's too close to schools and children, and yet if we move it over here physically away from schools and such, somehow it won't have an effect on our children or our community. I think that's fascinating to me. And I'm looking at this whole thing, listening to her, and look, I don't want to, it is a big, you know, drug use and addiction. It's brutal and it's hard. I get that. But in Grants Pass now, they have so much time and effort over there going in to finding a place where we can set people up to live in tents. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:29 And to basically to camp. And somehow this, you know, is I don't understand that. How is that really helping people? And then Vance just says we're a poor county and we can't keep taxing. That was the thing I agreed with is we can't keep taxing people for this problem. And so I know what you might say to me is, well, what do you think the solution is? And this might seem simple and it might even be wrong. I don't know. But the solution for me in this case is, you know, the government's been chasing their tail on that. Hello, everything
Starting point is 00:17:03 went to the Supreme Court. The solution to me is you need to find a private sector solution. You need to find some. The gospel mission was mentioned. Well, and the reason why the gospel rescue mission, being private, has not been selected as the solution of choice here, Dave, is because it actually puts rules on people and that is the whole issue here we have a yeah rules cannot be followed and hence uh you know everybody has to give up their uh your their taxes and or their private property for people who
Starting point is 00:17:38 are either addicted or mentally ill or whatever the case might be. It's really about fighting the court restrictions. That's what, see, that's what's going on. This is a court-created thing, which is why, I don't know, I think that the former mayor of Grants Pass should be ashamed of herself for actually having helped the situation, you know, helped get another lawsuit against a small, relatively modestly funded city in southern Oregon. And you can't tell me that there isn't a political enemies list involved with this kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Well, all right. I agree. I agree, Bill. And the other thing I would say is, you know, it's like she said, well, the court said it's not fair to make these people, know move all the time it's like well wait a minute what why is having a bunch of people living on the street and then all of a sudden it's like well it's not fair to make that what about the citizens of grants pass what about the children what about is it fair to them to to to have what's Well, apparently it is unfair to require people
Starting point is 00:18:45 to work and be productive and not become stoners in order to... It's unfair that we have those kind of requirements. Now, people who are mentally ill and raving right off the bat, I get it. There's
Starting point is 00:19:01 a need for that. Frankly, the institutions need to be reinstituted, okay? I was beating around the bush, Bill. You said really what I wanted to say there, and I know that comes off as very harsh and not compassionate. But the bottom line is I'm looking at this thing, and it's like, it's, I can't say what I want to say. Yeah, but I can kind of read between your lines, all right? Gigantic dog chasing its tail. I wanted to mention something with the word circle, but I better not do that.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Okay. Well, oh, is that like the... All the solutions. Okay, got it. So in other words, we're all sort of masturbating in a circle. I think that's where you were going. Okay, let me go to line two. Hi, good morning.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Who's this? Welcome. Hello? Hey, Bill, Michael Shaw, if you're available. Hi, Michael. Go ahead. Yeah, white noise wasn't there, but what the heck, it's Thursday. I have figured out, finally, the Medford Raider community conspiracy that involves the justification for all the new hotels being built here.
Starting point is 00:20:19 So they put in the sports park. They've now spent $70 or $90 billion on a swimming pool facility. Yep. And it all ties in together because they now have those things under their belt to justify the $180 million expansion of the airport. Hmm. Okay, now that's a county project, not a city project, but you think that's what that's all about then? Well, I said it's a greater Medford community. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Oh, okay. Yeah, whether it's a city government, county government, or whatever it is. So all three of them have to tie in together somewhere, wouldn't you think? Yeah, because, you know, we really needed neighborhood pools. We didn't need an aquatic warehouse at $80 million. Okay, we didn't need that. But pools in the neighborhood are expenses. Well, on the other hand, if you create tourist attractions,
Starting point is 00:21:23 then we build more motel or hotels, rather. Hence, you need more. And then you need more planes coming in and out of here. And yet, at the same time, we're told that we have to have climate-friendly, equitable communities and we're not supposed to grow. So, Michael, what are we going to do here? Well, I don't know. I'm not sure you saw the article about the aquatic facility results. Oh, yes, I did. And nothing makes me, and I said this yesterday,
Starting point is 00:21:51 nothing makes me feel better about paying an overly inflated cost each year on my public utility fee than knowing that we have 920, you know, birthday parties that were done over at Rogue X. I know that we needed an $80 million facility for such things. We really did. Well, absolutely. But it's funny, if you look at the numbers that they found about the economic impact that it has benefited from having that facility, but they don't talk about the profitability of the facility.
Starting point is 00:22:25 They know where they talk about whether it made money or not. Well, and the only way they can talk about Rogue X having made money is if they include the taxpayer forced contribution to it, Michael. Well, absolutely. But, I mean, any business has to run a profit and loss statement. Why are they not talking about that aspect of the facility? Most likely because it is a socialized facility. What do you think? Well, yes on that, and probably because it didn't make any money to pay for itself.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Of course. Otherwise, we wouldn't need to actually steal $70 to $80 from the taxpayers of southern oregon in the fees over the years okay so you have you have discovered the uh well you see i like the way you would uh would actually do if you if you were talking about roguex like a business then you would have to be talking about profit and loss but it's a government project so you don't have to worry about the profit or the loss just a matter like, look how much money we made. Look how much money came in on our $80 million lemonade stand. But $20 million of economic activity generated.
Starting point is 00:23:35 I would love to see the math on that. This is the Bill Myers Show. Hi, this is Megan at Mini Pet Mart. News Talk 1063 KMED. You're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. We'll get back to your calls in just a moment here as we wrap up Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Diana Anderson is in studio with me again because she's putting on another event tomorrow. Friday evening, where's that going to be? Central Point Library.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Central Point Library. What time again? At 6 o'clock. You have been, of course, by the way, I wanted to hold up a copy of your book here. Thank you. Just because this is, you're not just dealing with the contents of this book, but it has to do with essentially technocracy, the world planners, the planners of, you know, destroying property rights in here and shoveling you into the climate-friendly, equitable community or your brand-new Soviet system, if you allow them to. All right. But you wrote a great book about this and so much more. equitable community or your brand new soviet system if you allow them to all right but she wrote a great book about this and so much more who made american schools marxist training centers
Starting point is 00:24:30 and looking at the results of the educational report cards here for the state of oregon schools they're meeting their mission goals i think yes well they accomplish their goal they're failing students they can so they can prepare them for activist training and green jobs and that kind of thing right now. Yeah, all right. So what are you going to be kicking around in tomorrow night's presentation? Tomorrow night is more like two-part. I'm hoping to get through most of each one of the parts. One of them is how to live in a technocracy or a net zero growth neighborhood. And what I want to do is actually take advantage of what the Vision 2040 Task Force is doing.
Starting point is 00:25:10 They're saying that they can kind of look at other communities to see if their benchmarks are how they should go, you know. And by the way, Vision 24, that is the City of Medford committee. It was the City of Medford is the sponsor for it. They're the ones that put it together. But Medford is just the hub for the whole southern Oregon region. So Rove Valley Council of Governments came in and signed an agreement with every community to bring about climate-friendly areas.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Now, the Vision 2040 plan that you can download on the web, they list about 80 to 85 different actions and strategies that touch upon every person's all community living. Every aspect of living in a community is listed there from faith-based organizations to preschool uh children from the elderly to the the youngest the oldest it's for everybody you're talking like planning to the extreme almost oh yes yeah it's not just about affordable housing or or planting bicycle paths on the streets and stuff well you know the original technocracy and i've read a lot on technocracy and i know you have too is uh was all about uh essentially an energy-based economy in which everything this was done back in the 1930s the whole idea of technocracy was that uh you know everything had a cost and it was about energy and it was going to be completely uh data-based and
Starting point is 00:26:43 right strictly controlled and you can see technocracy kind of coming in from the back door and i hate to even say this because i know that uh i will make some people upset by opining this but can you not help but notice the entire technology technological bro community in the trump administration right now can you help can you not mr altman is there um the younger man that was in the trump office um they were talking about the new stargate program yeah 500 billion dollars and all that generated AI technology is for it. And we're going to sell you generated AI technology out of the guise of curing your cancer. Right.
Starting point is 00:27:32 Right. You know, all that kind of thing. Oh, yeah. So I know this is Conspiracy Theory Thursday, and I know that I've been really happy to see Doge come up with some of these proposed cuts and all this but i also can't help but notice that the greater or if you want to call it lesser agenda still appears to be a loosely connected plan in place and well am i wrong about no what i see it as a cold war between two opposing um future agendas we have the golden age that Trump talks about. Which is kind of like technocracy for good, maybe?
Starting point is 00:28:08 Yes, for the good. To protect people. And then you have the World Economics Forum form of technocracy. That's on the other side. That's machine age kind of thing. You will eat Z-bugs and be happy. In fact, the fourth industrial revolution by Klaus Schwab, they call it the intelligence era, as opposed to any other era we've had in the past.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah. But I don't know why they just don't call it artificial intelligence era because that's exactly what it is. But to understand what technocracy is, it's a state of being that wants a more perfect union. It wants to bypass any legislative houses. In other words, electors don't matter because they want to make all the decisions based on scientific fact. It is in fact a secular religion, scientism. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 00:29:03 It's also an administrative kind of function so it's the administrative state if you if you've ever heard some of that speaking on tv or you know on the radio um trump is fighting a lot of that administrative state but yet also seems to be the deep state but also seems to be enlisting some of that. Yes. At the same time. So you have to keep an eye on where this goes. That's why I'm encouraging people to don't don't sit on Trump, Trump's lawyer laurels, you know, and say, oh, well, everything's going to be solved now.
Starting point is 00:29:46 He's going to get rid of all the corruption and we will be able to drive our own cars, whether they're gas or electric, it won't matter. But we're living in a Marxist state right now. I mean, they imported Marxism right here in Southern Oregon in the 90s. They brought some Soviet people over here. But I want to read a definition of technocracy and compare it to a policy in Eugene, Oregon. Okay, go ahead. Technocracy is the science of technocracy and compare it to a policy in Eugene, Oregon. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Technocracy is the science of social engineering, the scientific operation of the entire social mechanism to produce and distribute goods and services to the entire population. Oh, technological Marxism. Right. Gotcha. So Eugene, quote, is advancing policies to focus future growth, particularly higher density housing in and near mixed use centers and along key corridors to increase access to essential goods and services for all residents. So the same thing. It's a system, an administrative system by a city or a metropolitan planning organization in order to make sure that you have a safe and comfortable and you have access within a walkable amount of time to get all the goods and services you need. It's that you have a safe, secure tyranny.
Starting point is 00:31:03 Right, right. A safe, secure, and pleasant prison to live in. Right, right. goods and services you need it's that you have a safe secure tyranny right right a safe secure and pleasant prison to live in right right i mean it might being a little bit uh it's hyperbolic there's three or four uh authors um including the lady who is a member of the european parliament who called it open prisons what they're doing over there because london is completely designed now through with neighborhood unit planning or they call it 15 minute cities and oxford has had thousands of people on the street objecting to it and then you also connect it with arguably even if jeff golden and pam marsh think that a fire map deal is about wildfire, if it gets to the point where you are forcing people off the land because they cannot afford the hardening or the insurance and all the rest.
Starting point is 00:31:55 You could see this kind of being the self-fulfilling problem. Oh, well, we have these wonderful neighborhood units for you to occupy over time. Well, you know, i found a picture uh describing smart smart growth in different respects and one of them was just kind of like a bird's eye view of a town and you have the small town in the middle then you have some outline residential areas on the outside and then you go even further and you've got this wildland urban interface going around the city and that's what they call it the forest service does um will we yeah wui or whatever they measure everything so then the next picture after smart
Starting point is 00:32:35 growth takes place and they get you off your property it's all condensed you don't see hardly any buildings in the WUI area at all. And so I thought, I'm not any at all. I mean, the county people that work for the county here are trying to fight this fire maps. They're the experts on the ground. And I thought, where is this actually coming? I want to boil it down to the very source thing. So I went to the task force, if you want to call it a task force, that met in October before they released all this in November. And what they wanted to do was to go ahead and inject a climate smart amendment onto the Northwest Forest Plan. And they did it quietly. amendment or a plan is. You can, an example is Tom Vilsack went to Dubai at the last COP, COP28 meeting. COP stands for Council of Parties, I think. And they led the whole show there in in regards to climate-smart implementation in the world. So it's a UN thing.
Starting point is 00:34:10 So we're actually sending some—Tom Vilsack, I think he used to be governor of Iowa. He's Democrat. But all this—all our electors right now that know about smart growth, and of course the Department of Land Conservation Development Commission here in Oregon, lists links for you to learn more about smart growth. But they don't tell you, and the EPA doesn't even tell you unless you go into their archive, that smart growth grew out of the Agenda 21 Earth Summit in 1992. And if you look at the leadership.
Starting point is 00:34:48 That was the first Bush presidency. Right, the first Bush. And so it's not just a pure Democrat versus Republican agenda at all. This has been a lot of bipartisan. All right. I don't have a lot of more time to go into it, but this is the kind of conversations going on tomorrow night. Yes.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Okay. And so this is going to be six o'clock at the central point library by the way this is going to be on zoom too it'll be on zoom also i um do you have a meeting that i can uh can put this out on or put the link out i can i can email it to you today okay i'll put it up on my show blog and i will make sure to mention that tomorrow because i know you're doing this tomorrow night but you can show up in person and have good conversation and it's um and it's like i said i i think you're right though the takeaway from this all is that we have basically two sides of globalism that are at war with one another i think there's a third side too and i think they're the disappointed side they're the ones that because the machine age people up there, Klaus Schwab and the technology, they're creating an elite system.
Starting point is 00:35:53 They don't care if there's equality. Actually, they don't. These, well, communitarianisms or even communists, socialists, hardline socialists in the United States. Bernie Sanders. Who are counting on EDI. Bernie Sanders type. Bernie Sanders type. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And they're looking at that. They're very disappointed about Trump. They're the ones that are calling out this whole thing. Right. But they're not going to call out on Klaus Schwab. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:23 They're not going to. So three groups. Three groups. This is the this is the battle this is the battle for the uh for the future of freedom i guess it's really what we're talking about or the the managed freedom and i'm sorry to end it on a sarcastic note but that's kind of what it is so tomorrow night six o'clock you'll get me the zoom link too all right yes all right okay diana anderson sam diana anderson it is uh 855 at KMED. Yikes, indeed.
Starting point is 00:36:45 And, yep, our local organizations, everybody's all just kind of sleepwalking into it, I guess. Rev up your engines, folks. American Rent Your Garage is putting on the brakes this season, ending the high cost of vehicle repairs with their exclusive offer. What did he do with the fact that you're putting your hands into really cold, wet, slushy stuff, and there was a reaction that way? Was it a rash, or was it actually pustules' reaction? There were pustules, and they had to pop them and everything.
Starting point is 00:37:14 So it was really gross. I can't believe that. I can't believe that either. But, you know, that is a great conspiracy theory. Thirsty, so something in this it's not just the sky and it's not just the aluminum setting the trees on fire in uh in widespread multi-million acre congregations it's in the snow too all right yep well now i'm kind of curious here now that they've been playing around in those chemicals are they responding to uh 5g
Starting point is 00:37:44 are they getting reaction from 5g being around the tower with the heavy metals in their system now But they've been playing around in those chemicals. Are they responding to 5G? Are they getting a reaction from 5G being around the tower with the heavy metals in their system now? No, I don't think so. They're just, but magnets stick to them. Magnets stick to the skin. All right. I love it. Thanks so much for the call there, Sherry.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I really do. I really do love it. Thanks, man. Okay, 7705633. I wanted to check in with Joel. Joel's out on the Iron Gate. Joel, you have not left your home in how many weeks now because of the weather? What's going on? Two and a half weeks, except for when I walked over to the neighbor's about a mile and a quarter away through the snow,
Starting point is 00:38:25 and now it's turned to mud. And luckily, one of the neighbors got an all-wheel drive quad, and they brought me in some pain and food. But, yeah, I'm waiting for the wind and the sun or Mr. Freeze to turn the ground frozen so I can go get more supplies. My truck is about a half a mile away stuck in mud. Good luck on that. I know that there's been a lot of challenges with weather and road access up in your neighborhood.
Starting point is 00:38:54 God bless you and for the people who are helping you out, Joel. Okay? Thanks for the update. I really do appreciate that. We've got about a minute and a half, 90 seconds, so I wanted to make sure and squeeze in an email or two of the day, and that's sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry. CentralPointFamilyDentistry.com is on Freeman Way, right next door to the Mazatlan Mexican restaurant. CentralPointFamilyDentistry.com.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Great people there. And While You Wait crowns, quite available on this one, okay? We have an in-house lab now. Butch writes me, hey Bill, whatever happened to any investigation of the death of the scotus member that died suddenly on a hunting fishing holiday and was cremated in record time oh anted and scalia okay i'll just repeat that repeat after me butch even with the pillow on his chest right uh nothing to see move along okay nothing to Move along. I think my pillow guy now has a model of that pillow out, which is used for assassinations. Just kidding.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Okay? He also asks, what about the shooter at the Las Vegas concert? Nothing to see. Move along. Remember, it was bump stocks. Bump stocks did it, Butch. Although anybody who has ever fired a bump stock, and I had one until I destroyed it after the last administration forced us to do it,
Starting point is 00:40:09 everybody knows that the sound of what happened at that, anybody who actually fired machine guns versus bump stocks know that those were no bump stock weapons that we were listening to. Oh, the assassin that tried to kill President Trump. Nothing to see. Move along here. The system is fully in control and taking care of it. You know, you're asking very uncomfortable questions. And I think we have a climate-friendly, equitable community for you. Thank you, Butch.
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