Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 02-21-25_FRIDAY_7AM

Episode Date: February 21, 2025

Open phones and conversation, D62 quiz, Jeromy Ford and Pastor Kevin Darr discuss a homelessness fighting proposal called the Built For Zero Initiative.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. And let's go to Randy. Randy's in Ashland. Randy, good to have you on. What are you thinking? I'm thinking that we're looking at an opportunity with the funding being cut off from the federal government and the state may be looking for other ways of raising money for public education, and they have the opportunity with the ONC Timber Act. Maybe they could start enforcing that, and that would, A, clean up our forests, create

a bunch of jobs. And I remember the superintendent of schools in Ashland saying, we'll never run out of money as long as we have the ONC timber revenue. Boy, I'll tell you, it's great to hear some thinking like that. That would be, because essentially what you're looking at right now with all of the federal public lands right now, it's dead capital, right? It's essentially dead capital. Now, it may be growing, but it is essentially dead and unproductive.

It is a burden on the people right now. You think of that, the reduction in federal contributions, so to speak, to state and local governments could actually spur some sharpening of the mind, I guess. Is that kind of where you're going with this? Well, exactly. In other words, they're going to be in a pinch if Trump cuts off their revenue because of their idiot policies. And it's sitting there. It's still law.

It's just that— Now, that is a federal law, though. The state really can't enforce the federal law, I don't believe. Can it? No, but they—well, the thing is, the state is opposed to enforcing that law, and that's why it's not being enforced. So that's the difference. So it would be the state then going to the environmental groups and saying,

knock it off, jerks. Well, we've got, we are the billionaire starving to death because we're refusing to buy food. We have wealth beyond wealth in our forests and under our feet, natural gas, oil. And the greenies say, oh, you can't touch that. You can't touch that because it's changing the climate, which is, you know, you and I know that that's BS. It's not changing the climate. And so we're starving ourselves going into debt because we're not harvesting the bounty of nature that's been given to us. Good point. Randy, thanks for making it. 770-5633. We'll open up a line there. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Hey, Bill. It's Wild Salmon. Steve, go ahead. Well, one of my pet peeves is RVTD and their buses running around empty, and they're running on federal funds. And so I'm wondering what's going to happen with that. And you can't even try to trace it because they don't give you any financial information about them anymore. Oh, they don't? Because I used to be able to look up their books and see what the cost Not there. It's not there?

Really? It's not there. Yeah, no. That would not seem to be I wonder if they just put it in a different place. That would strike me as incredibly illegal. RVTD may be run by some ideologues in some cases, but I don't think they're trying to break

the law. You? I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I don't think they're trying to break the law. You? I can't imagine why they wouldn't. I don't think they care. Well, all right. You know, Tim D'Alessandro was on the board, and I asked him a lot of questions, and he got really defensive, and then they took all that financial information off their webpage. Oh, okay, because I used to be able to go and just get their yearly reports, and you

could very easily then calculate what is your cost per passenger, as an example, and cost per passenger. Absolutely, that was exactly what I asked him. I told him, look, you could hire Uber drivers a lot cheaper. You talk about headaches. Yeah, well, I'll tell you what, I don't know if it's something that could be affected at a local issue at a local level, but I would encourage RVTD to strip off all of their window coverings there, because not only is it designed, I think, to obscure the passengers or lack thereof that they may be busing around. I also think it's about hiding the identity of people on the buses, and I would imagine law enforcement's not real happy about that. Well, that's a good point. I just don't, and you can't even tell where the funding is

coming from. It's ostensibly because of the Americans with Disabilities Act. That's how they justify all their expenses. All right. Thanks for the call, and thank you for letting me know about that. And by the way, if somebody from RVTD can tell me, did they really hide the books now? You can't get it on the website any longer? Because you used to be able to figure out what was going on there. There was like a yearly report they would put up there.

The last time I looked at it, I think it was like 2022 or 2023 numbers. Let me go to line three. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Yeah, this is David taking a second bite here in Phoenix. I just wanted to, in regards to our schools, Bill, that Rob Schlapper thing,

I guess it's supposed to be tonight. The Oregon Education Project? Tonight at six o'clock at the Mountain Church. Is that correct? I just want to make sure that... I don't know. I'm not the clearinghouse for absolutely every event going on. Let me check this out.

It was Rob Schlaffer, a member with the school. No, I know Rob. I know Rob. I don't know if there's something going on at the Mountain Church tonight, though. Let me see if I can do a search of my emails and see if Morgan Education Project. Let me see what I've got going on here. I'm going to keep looking over the break here. Maybe he'll call in.

Thank you very much for the talk. Yeah, I just don't know off the top of my head. Not every meeting or event that goes on, I don't have plugged in my head unless I guess I'm going to it. I know that tonight at 6 o'clock that there is the event going on with Diana Anderson doing her deal on the Zero Growth City plan that the planning groups want to push in here and a bunch more. Let me go to line four. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Good morning, Bill. Michael Shaw. Hello, Michael. I just want to remind people that we are only in day 31 of the Trump administration. They have uncovered tons of good information on wasteful spending, but it's only day 31. It's going to take time to put in the plans to fix it after it's all uncovered. And I will agree with you, this is just the beginning of the beginning you know really when it comes right down to it question the question is though what are the um

i i guess what i'm trying to and what i'm still not completely knowledgeable about that's why i was asking rick about this uh a lot is that there there does seem to be a lot of or there do seem to be a lot of misfires going on early which i think hurt the cause would you agree with me on that you know when you you fire the nuclear workers at hanford as an example you know oh now i got to get him back you know those sort of things how would you handle something like that i i understand but in in terms of hunting uh hunting words it's using a shotgun not a rifle right when you've got a shotgun approach you're going to have pellets that fly left right up and down you agree yes in other words uh prepare for chaos yeah and as rick

said you can fix these things once you've taken the shot but it's going to take time i just i hear so many people talking about well it really hasn't happened and this hasn't happened and that's going on it's only day 31 all right point well taken thank you very much 770-5633 if you're on hold i will get will get right to you. This is the Bill Myers Show. We have open phones here for a little bit. And 770-5633. We'll do it right after the hand of the update and more. Come on.

Joel here, Brother Vorton Truck Center. And you know how I spell transparency? I-N-V-O-I-C-E. Invoice. As in how we now post the invoice. 770-KMED. 728. Happy to take your calls. By the way, I wanted to give you some confirmation.

David from Phoenix was asking, hey, is that Oregon Education Project meeting at the Mountain Church going on tonight? And I dug back through the thousands of emails, and I did find the one from Russ Kotz, and a couple of weeks ago they were going to the one from Russ Kautz, Kautz rather. And a couple of weeks ago, they were going to have had one on the 7th and they delayed it to the 14th and they changed it. It is going to be tonight at six o'clock at the Mountain Church.

So if you're into Oregon education project reform, you want to be at that meeting on the Mountain Church at Mountain Church, rather. And then also we have the planning, Diana Anderson's meeting over at the Central Point Library. It's going to be 6 o'clock tonight. So we've got dueling meetings. It kind of depends on what you are more interested into. And, by the way, I am going to put the Zoom link on that up on social media a little bit later on the Facebook page, okay?

729 at KMED. Gene's here. Hello, Gene. Are you crazy or not today for Friday? What do you say? Now what? Crazy or what? I am partly crazy, but I don't stick to a whole one thing.

I sometimes switch back and forth. Good. So what's on your mind? Well, I was just thinking about Charles Hapkid's book about pole shift, and that said so in Egyptian... Okay, okay, one more time. Slow down, slow down, slow down, slow down, because it sounds like you're going Conspiracy Theory Thursday on me on Friday, and I'm not ready for it, okay? So pole shift, all right? Yeah. So you're talking about the shift of the magnetic poles of the Earth.

This has happened several times over time. Oh, yeah. Over the eons. But I'm thinking that the environmentalists seem to think that we're causing stuff like this, but there's something much greater than us in charge of all this. It could be everything from solar temperatures, solar activity. There's also the magnetic field of the Earth. A lot of things influence climate, right?

Oh, yes, naturally. Yes, it does. And the Egyptian Book of the Dead stated that while they were sailing away from Atlantis as it was destroying itself. That the sun used to rise in the west and then it come up in the east while they were going through this catastrophe. Oh, that's interesting. Well, I think what we need to do is get in touch with our Lemurian friends that are deep within the bowels of Mount Shasta, according to the New Agers a number of years ago and see what they have to say about this, okay? The illusion blew them up.

They're now the Pacific Ocean, but they used to be Lemuria. Oh, got it. Got it. All right. Thank you, Gene. I don't know if it's crazy or just... Let me just put in an alternative reality. Let me go to Dave. No, line three. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning. This is Jerry. Hi, Jerry. What's on your mind, huh? reality uh let me go to dave uh no uh line three hi good morning who's this welcome good morning this is jerry hi jerry what's on your mind huh well so you mentioned something about the federal

government uh when uh dust lines are being a big part of that and you haven't mentioned it because that's federal the states couldn't do anything with those laws or enforce them? Well, when I'm saying this is that it's the same sort of thing where you can't, just like the state cannot technically enforce an immigration law. Courts have pretty much made that. It's a matter of the ONC Act is not a state law. That's an act of Congress. The thing about the immigration thing being the federal government, so is the Department of Transportation. That's a constitutional duty of the government, is interstate transportation.

Yet every state enforces, they pass identical laws to the Fed, and they enforce those laws. And they just do. They enforce federal law. Every truck out there is subject to federal laws. But if they get a ticket for breaking the federal laws, it's the state that does it. The enforcement method. However, I... Well, first of all, you would have to – when you're talking about enforcing the ONC Act – and, because that essentially, they, along with all of the other Democratic West Coast senators, have kept a lot of that locked up. Well, if it's the law, the state should be able to enforce it,

just like they do the transportation laws. Well, go ahead and try, and then all I'm saying is that you're assuming, A, the state would want to, which I doubt it would, given the point of view. And then – and like I said, there are a few moving parts in this one. I'm not trying to just completely trash what you're talking about, but it's like, yeah, the law also says you're not supposed to be able to function in our society as an illegal alien but uh look how what reality is there's uh there's the law and then there's the enforcement action of it i i just don't want to be the simplistic thinker type of all we have to do is get out in the woods and you know and we've had a lot of republican politicians that would run on this sort of stuff for a long time. And I understand because they'll take a look at it. We've got all this wealth around us, so what we've got to do is run on that.

Yeah, and it ain't yours. It ain't your club, I guess is what I'm getting at at this point. I would much prefer that rather than us worrying about getting out into the woods, I would actually sell those lands out. I want those lands out of public ownership. Well, here's part of the problem. The judges are enforcing the laws, and they're enforcing the environmental laws falsely because they obviously don't work.

Yeah. Thanks for the call. Appreciate it. Let me go to Dave. Dave, you get the final say. Morning. Right now. Adam Schiff is in trouble because he got a refinancing on property in Connecticut where

he claimed it to be his primary residence. But then he hasn't... But he's a senator in... In other words, he has a Ron Wyden problem, in other words. Yeah, he has the Ron Wyden problem, but Ron Wyden never got a mortgage because his wife is filthy rich. So he's not tied into a lie where, you know,

it's against the law, because he was doing it to get cheaper interest rates on the property by saying it would be his primary residence. Well, you know how he gets away from this. He says, okay, he falls on his sword and says, says okay i lied about this to get a better interest rate uh and then uh you know he's he's not going to be removed as senator that's what you're implying no no but he could end up in prison that's a that's a federal crime to lie on a mortgage application under penalty of perjury uh-huh how many other people are going to uh prison for perjury though i'm just i How many other people are going to prison for perjury, though? I'm just trying to get you to think realistically about that. All right?

Donald Trump almost did. Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah, but that's just it. The system wanted Donald Trump in prison. The system doesn't want Adam Schiff in prison at this point. Okay? Well, we'll see.

Cash Patel can bring it forth and see what Pam, the Attorney General, does. What Pam Bonney has to say. Get the popcorn. That's all I can say. All right. Thank you very much. Right. And believe me, nothing would actually delight me more than to see that lying POS get his comeuppance.

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But a lot of people working on some of these problems and i got an email yesterday from jeremy ford and uh jeremy ford ended up uh bringing up to me a built for zero initiative and i know nothing about this so i'm going to talk with him about this anybody that may have a potential solution to where we find ourselves i want to talk to him jeremy welcome to the show good having you you on. Thank you very much. I've got Pastor Kevin Darr with us here, too. He's working tirelessly with us with this Built for Zero model also. Okay, and first off, so who is with you this morning? Pastor Kevin Darr. He's the senior pastor of Youth Turn for Christ. Okay, great. Wonderful. And are you sharing a phone together? We are. We're conferencing this.

Oh, excellent. Glad to know that here. And you're going to be getting together with some city officials later today about Built for Zero. Would that be fair? Is that what we're looking at right now? Yeah, that's exactly what we're doing uh we a couple weeks back we uh kind of presented the model uh to a lot of the non-profits uh some of the city council members uh we've been in talks with uh the mayor and the city council and other people and this is a model that's working in other other cities other counties uh kirk county bakersfield for instance they reach function zero and what function zero is where homelessness is brief rare and non-occurring anymore and they've reached it for both

populations for two populations actually that's for uh chronic homelessness and also veteran homelessness um goldport mississippi is another community that reached function zero for um homelessness across the board that's uh veteran homelessness chronic homelessness matter of fact um since 2015 all the way up till now they've maintained function zero's veteran homelessness chronic homelessness matter of fact since 2015 all the way up till now they've maintained function zero for veteran homelessness they've also reached function zero for chronic homelessness single males youth and women with children also cities like houston texans have received a 63 percent reduction rate and their homelessness and so with everything going on and how polarized

it is right now and hearing grants passed, a couple months back, we decided to take a look at what we can do. We've very much been rooted in a community since 2017 with addiction recovery, but we've seen a need. We've seen a way that we could possibly help the community, and we are looking to bring this model here. I think within the next 45 to 60 days, we should have a stabilization center where we can bring all the nonprofits, from medical health to mental health to case management to substance use, whether it's New Temper Christ, Gospel Rescue Mission, the Oxford House, or, you know, AA, or different types of... Okay. Hey, Jeremy, let me ask Pastor Kevin. Now, Pastor Kevin, you're the senior pastor

at Calvary Chapel, right? Grants Pass? Right. Okay. How does this proposal then differ from, let's say, what already exists in Grants Pass, you know, a gospel rescue mission, as an example, because everything about, one of the biggest challenges that I'm told from the homeless community, as it were, is that if there are rules involved, you get a lot of people that just don't even come in. So how would you then seeing this zero program work out? What makes it different? Well, there's quite a bit of difference. One is this is the homelessness issue here in Grants Pass especially has been going on for a long time, as we know. In fact, probably two years ago, I sat down with you in your Grants

Pass studio, and we talked about homelessness. And the difference is, this is a collaborative approach. We as an organization, as You Turn for Christ, a nonprofit, we've been out pulling people out of homelessness for a long time, but it's been on a small scale. You know, we have guys that who were once homeless and addicted or had mental illness who are now, you know, have their children back, who are housed, who are productive members of society. And since then, what we've done is we've taken a look at what we were doing as a community, and it's just not working. The low barrier approach where we don't, you know, set milestones or have almost a certain contract for behaviors and getting better just hasn't worked. If people are going to live up to with the common goal of, you know,

removing the barriers so that people can become self-sufficient. Because all the barrier housing or living does is it produces more dependency on addiction, on the government support or whatever. And our goal is to set them free from that in the sense of becoming self-sufficient, where they're not reliant on, you know, that we can set them free from mental illness issues, addiction issues. Okay. Now, do you have your own in-house addiction recovery services, or is this the part about where you have the other non-profits that come in,

and what is the church then, just a focal point or a staging ground? I'm just trying to figure out how this looks, and I'm sorry to ask a dumb question, okay? Well, so all that is, that's pretty simple, is we're a bunch of guys who are, you know, kind of boots on the ground and have been, and we truly believe that the true answer to all that ails humanity is Jesus Christ. But we also understand that that's not everybody's cup of tea. And as you were saying, like the Gospel Rescue Mission, we work closely with them now because we have kind of the same mindset, but we understand that, you know, there are those who are not at that place. So there are secular recovery centers. There's all these different places, and what we want to do is bring someone in, assess what their needs are. If they want a faith-based recovery, we could send them to

U-Turn or the Gospel Rescue Mission. If they want something that's more secular, we can send them to one of their... What it is, is we assess their needs. If they're a veteran, we'll hook them up with the VA. The whole point of the Stabilization Center that Jeremy was talking about is to have all of these organizations in one spot where we can assess them and then determine what's needed, and then require them to follow the steps necessary to, you know, that we can help them remove the barriers so that homelessness is not something that's a constant in their lives. All right, Pastor Kevin. So what is happening this afternoon with getting together with city council officials?

What's the story there, and is this meeting open to the public? Absolutely. It's open to anybody who has a heart, see this issue be resolved in our community. And so we have everything from vendors that produce housing for temporary housing to whoever. All the people, all the players who are going to be a part of it are going to be there, but it's open. And last time we probably had, what, Jeremy, about 130 people that showed up at the meeting. And, you know, it's just kind of to give a progression of how far we've been, what connections we've made, where this is going.

How are you funded? So it's all private. One of our goals that Jeremy and myself set out is that, one, U-Turn for Christ has never accepted a penny from state or local or federal funds. That also means you don't have to operate within their restrictions either. So, I mean, there's a great thing to have federal dollars or state dollars coming in, but there are usually pretty big strings attached, wouldn't you say, usually? Exactly.

And we couldn't be who we are as Youth for Christ if we accepted the funds. It just wouldn't happen. So exactly, and we think the taxpayers have been burdened enough with this issue, and we think there's other ways of doing this. Plus, our goal, because we don't take any governmental funds, is to literally work ourselves out of a job, so to speak, as it relates to the homelessness. I must say, Pastor Kevin, that would be great to shut it down when the time comes. You know, we can't find any more drug-addicted homeless here. That would be a wonderful thing. Of course, I don't know, it could be, in the human nature being what it is, we do seem to be minting additional people.

By the way, Jeremy, I forgot to ask you when you first came in, what is your connection with this? What is your role within the Built for Zero initiative? So I initially was the one who started looking into solutions to see what models were working in other cities. And so I found this and I presented it to Pastor Kevin. And we so far have just been presenting it to other nonprofits and we presented it to the mayor, the city council. They love it. A lot of the other nonprofits love it because it's something that's worked. And what's cool about Built for Zero is it comes from the standpoint that homelessness is solvable. And one of the things that we're going to be working with, too, is preventative measures. What's going to prevent people from moving into

homelessness? And that's one of the issues that I don't think is being explored a lot. We've thrown a lot of money. We've had a lot of talk and talk about doing things. And it's really hard to fix it after someone's already broken, right? That kind of thing. Right. Yeah. And let's face it, some of these organizations and entities are not in the business to get rid of homelessness because their bottom line requires that homelessness exists in order to be funding. Like Pastor Kevin said, we're not in this for any type of funding. We've never received funding. And like Pastor Kevin said, our goal is to make sure that the taxpayers are not burdened anymore.

There's private funding out there that's available to do this. And if it's working big cities like Houston, Gulf Force, Mississippi, Chattanooga, Tennessee, and Rockford, Illinois, it definitely can work here in Grants Pass. All right. And meeting today at 3 o'clock, and where is that going on? And what should people expect to see when they pop by? So it will be at Calvary Chapel Grand Pass, and it's at three o'clock. And, you know, Jeremy and I and a couple of other stakeholders will just be presenting kind of the overall structure of Built for Zero and starting to set up a stakeholders group, you know, kind of to be able to steer this initiative of local officials and that kind of stuff.

So we're starting to develop the organization behind it. And then also to kind of give some more vision on where it's going. And where is Calvary Chapel, for those who don't know? It's 269 West Harbeck Road in Grants Pass's 269 West Harbeck Road in Grants Pass. Okay, West Harbeck Road in Grants Pass. Hey, Jeremy, Pastor Kevin, I appreciate you both. Thanks for sharing. And keep me in the room, keep me in the loop on how that's working,

because anything which could help, you know, stay clear of the lawsuits and help return the city of Grants Pass to, you know, getting some more people productive and off the streets, I think would be very helpful. Anything you can bring to it, okay? Thanks so much. All right. If I could say one more thing is that the mayor, the new mayor and the city council are very much concerned with this issue. They're not trying to push it under the rug or make it go away. They're actually in the business of trying to solve this. A lot of people in the community don't think so. We've been in conversations with the city council and the mayor,

and they very much have a heart for these people that are in-house, and they very much want to see this problem solved in this town and this community also. All right. Thank you very much, Jeremy and Pastor Kevin. Thank you, sir. Be well. 757 at KMED and 99.3 KPXG. That is, gosh, private people trying to come up with some solutions to this.

I'm all good for this. It is one of the challenges when we try to offshore, or not offshore, offload is the term I'm thinking of, of charity, trying to take care of people who are in crisis and certainly need help. And we offshore it and offload it on to government. And then you have the government funding, and then you have the growth of the nonprofit organizations that are dependent on the government funding and it's kind of like how we jokingly say does the american cancer society really want cancer to be cured because ultimately it means you're all out of work now i know they'll say that we're working for research and everything but there's always that kind of work it's just sort of the way that bureaucracies tend to find ways to preserve themselves i guess so anyway

when they say that they would like to put themselves out of business, good. That would be a good thing that everyone was doing okay in the cities. It's 7.58 and change at KMED. And I'll tell you what, I have a Diner 62 Real American quiz that I am just jonesing to give you a shot at right now. And get yourself a $20 gift certificate from Diner 62. We're going to be talking a little bit of history from this week and it'll be a lot of fun. It's always a lot of fun. It's multiple choice. 770-563-3770 KMED. If you have not won this

in the last 60 days, you can play it next. All right. bill myers show this is brent this is kmed kmed hd1 eagle point medford kbxg grants past time for the diner 62 real american quiz by the way two pork chops and eggs or eight ounce new york steak and eggs on special right now on the weekends and good stuff and remember today is clam chowder friday that's homemade there's so good you will hear the surf and seagulls okay i. I love that claim, all right? Diner 62, just south of White City. And they're just doing great work. Great food over there.

Let me go to line one here and see if we can get a winner. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, Bill. This is Jerry from Rogue River. Hey, Jerry from Rogue River. You'd like a Diner 62 quiz prize, wouldn't you, huh? I would love to go eat there.

All right. Well, it was today in 1948, Jerry, in Rogue River. NASCAR is officially going into business. NASCAR racing goes on to become one of America's most popular spectator sports as well as a multi-billion dollar industry. And the driving force behind NASCAR was Bill uh bill france senior he was a mechanic and auto repair shop owner from washington dc who in the mid-1930s moved to daytona beach and the daytona area was a gathering spot for all the racing enthusiasts and france started well he got

involved in racing cars and after witnessing how racing rules could vary from event to event and how dishonest promoters would steal the prize money. France felt that they needed a governing body to promote racing and sanction it. So he gets a bunch of his buddies in the racing community to talk about the idea. And NASCAR was born. Now, France served as NASCAR's first president, played a key role in shaping its development in the sports early decades. Now, for the wind, Jerry and Rogue River, in what city did NASCAR hold its first strictly stock car race? Was it A, Daytona Beach, Florida? B, Darlington, South Carolina?

Was it C, Charlotte, North Carolina? D, Martinsville, Virginia? Or was it E, Winston-Salem, North Carolina? What do you think? It's one of those five. Good luck on that one, okay? I missed this one, but I tried to guess, okay? Very beginning.

All right, let's say Darlington. Darlington. Darlington, South Carolina. That sounds pretty good. I'm sorry, Jerry, it wasn't that. But we'll keep going here to line two. Hi, good morning. Who's this?

Brian. Hey, Brian. Not Darlington. Where did NASCAR hold its first stock car race? Hi, good morning. Who's this? I'm Brian. Hey, Brian. Not Darlington. Where did NASCAR hold its first stock car race? Was it Daytona Beach, Charlotte, North Carolina, Martinsville, Virginia, or Winston-Salem, North Carolina? Charlotte. Charlotte. You're going for C, Charlotte.

Yeah. Good day. You're a winner! You nailed it. NASCAR's race first held February 15, 1948 on the Beach Road course in Daytona Beach. But the first NASCAR Strictly Stock Car race held June 19, 1949 at Charlotte Speedway. The Strictly Stock Race, a 200-lap event, only allowed American passenger cars built between 1946 and 1949. So that's pretty cool. It's interesting. There were 13,000 people that watched Glenn Dunaway finish the 200-lap race first.

However, Jim Roper, who drove a Lincoln, collected the $2,000 prize because Dunaway was disqualified for illegal rear springs on his vehicle. I guess everyone was trying to work work some kind of advantage right and in the early years of nascar they drove the same type of cars that regular folks drove on the streets buicks caddies old mobile with a few modifications that's about it so hey you're off the diner 62 hang on i'll get you all set up good stuff hang on i'll need your address and we'll pop that out to you, all right? Six minutes after 8 here, and we'll be back with Dr. John Lott here in just a moment.

I think it's going to be some pretty good conversation. What should Kash Patel be doing now that he's taking reins at the FBI? And he has a lot to say about the way crime statistics are gathered. It's what he wants to focus on. I'll kick that around with him after the Kim Commando digital update. K4VN01.