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Episode Date: February 24, 2025

Where Past Meets Present with Dr. Powers and today the profile is the Frohnmayer family...what an impact on southern Oregon. Your calls, emails of the day wrap up the morning.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. Yeah, if you just joined us, Grammy award-winning artist Roberta Flack passed away overnight and she was 88 years old. I didn't realize that she had been around that long, but just an amazing singer. It's probably what she's most famed for. First time I ever saw your face, or ever I

saw your face, and feel like making love. Did a lot of songs back in the early 70s with Donny Hathaway. They did a lot of duets. They were just great, great songs. That's right. That's right. Let's see.

Didn't she also sing the theme for Beauty and the Beast? I could be thinking of someone else. Needless to say, though, just an amazing artist. The one thing about First Time Ever I Saw Your Face, this is a little bit of inside baseball, Dr. Powers. Dr. Dennis Powers with me this morning once again.

We're past meets present. Cool. In the days of big AM radio, that is a song that would often kick AM transmitters off the air, believe it or not. They're famous in the engineering world. We would talk about it back in the day because the bass was so strong in that song. The first time ever I saw your face, it would cause overloads. AM transmitters, not all of them, but many of them would. And there are some brands that you had to watch the volume when you would play that song.

Otherwise, you'd kick the transmitter off the air because of the bass. And the thing about it, too, is that Roberta Flack wanted to be a classical musician. Yeah. And it was because of that training that she came up with these wonderful songs, Bill, that you're pointing out. Yeah. I would also add that there is another artist that also tended to kick transmitters off the air at the time in the AM world. Back in the early 80s, it was Kim Carnes and Betty Davis Eyes. The audio processors of the day had trouble on some of the AM stations.

Oh, they did? Yeah. That's interesting. I remember I worked at some of the stations in those days in Modesto. We had to be careful playing Betty Davis Eyes. It would kick it off, and then you'd have to turn it back on. But anyway, all right. And then you got in the FM world.

You don't have to worry about that stuff, but, you know, neither here nor there. You haven't seen the transition. Yep, absolutely. So, Doc, let's talk about the Frohnmeyers. Frohnmeyer family has had a lot of influence here in Southern Oregon where PASS meets President, and that's who you're profiling today, the history of the Frohnmeyers. Yeah, Bill, and what an amazing story. I had a couple of listeners that said that they were wondering about the Frohnmeyers,

and they were actually, Otto was born in Germany in 1905. And he was with his family, immigrated to Oregon, where his father was a watchmaker. But Otto then... Well, yeah, but still a watchmaker and a toolmaker. Doesn't that sound like someone named Otto Frommerer? Oh, yeah, he's the watchmaker in town, right? Isn't that perfect? Oh, it does. And actually, you could tell that the family, you know, had this support for Otto. And the reason is, is the fact that they weren't coming

in here to work in the gold mines or to, as you're pointing out, it was one of those ones where, with being a watchmaker and a toolmaker and such, it was more, it's really what you would think about in terms of, you know, in terms of Germany at the time, as to the precision. And in any event, he earned a law degree, being Otto from the University of Oregon, worked odd jobs that included being a hotel bellhop. But then a fellow by the name of Porter Neff, who really was another fine attorney in Medford, offered Otto a job. He came here. And that's how the Frommeyers first made it to Southern Oregon back at that time in the, what, mid-30s probably, right? Yeah, actually, they had first started off in Portland. And actually, that was the reason why Otto then went to the University of Oregon,

not only undergraduate, but also his law degree. But because of Neff and also Otto Fronmayer was really a very good attorney. I mean, from all the people that wrote about him, he really was really incredible. He represented Harry and David, the Mail Tribune. And I think the key thing, Bill, was that he chaired the 200 leaders, the rich and powerful, that secured the $2 million of funding that started Rogue Valley Memorial Hospital. It's now Asante Rogue Regional Medical Center, helped establish Mercy Flights, married Maribel Braden, who was a music teacher from Albany. And in any event, Otto was a lifelong Republican. And these are names that really stand out to me because he had a key role in Mark Hatfield when we had, you know, senators that weren't as beholden to folks like Biden. So in any event...

You know, I never realized until I'm looking at your piece here that Otto ended up doing the fundraising campaign in the 1980s to buy Mahonia Hall. I guess we didn't have a governor's residence before that time, or the official one? And Bill, that's really a good point, because they didn't. And Otto led that statewide fundraising campaign to purchase, and it was a private residence, and make it into Mahonia Hall, which is the official residence of the Oregon governors. And you're absolutely correct. What really stood out, though, is that in terms of their children,

and see, Otto lived until he was 95 years old. Wow. So he just passed away only in 2000, year 2000 then, roughly. That's correct. And then when you take a look at the four children who grew into adulthood, you know, when I got into that one, Bill, I just said, you know, I don't think folks really know how extraordinary these grown children were. Mira and Philip were award-winning university music professors in performance. Philip was, as I recall, a professor of music at Loyola University. But then we had John and David,

and I had met David, but John was chair of the National Endowment for the Arts. But when you look into these abilities, folks, John was and went to Stanford and he was in the U.S. Navy during the Vietnam War and then came back and earned his J.D. degree from the U of O School of Law. And he was editor in chief of the Law Review. These are really very incredible achievements even then. And of course, David was very active in state politics, no doubt about that, right? He was, and he, which really stood out to me, he graduated magna cum laude from Harvard, went and had a Rhodes Scholarship, went to Cal Berkeley with his law degree, attorney general, as I recall, for three terms, ran for governor of Oregon in 1990, but didn't win. And then he was the one that was appointed president of the U of O in 1994, which is where I had met him a couple of times in terms of over at the Guanajuato 30th anniversary. And you could just tell when you talk to these people, Bill, that you could see why they had done what they had done, because

they just stood out. But the problem, though, which really kind of chisels into this is that David Frohnmayer's daughters were diagnosed with Fanconi anemia, and all three tragically died of the complication. This is a recessive genetic illness at ages of 12, 24, and 29. So even with this, Bill, what really stood out to me is the fact that we do as best we can. We're born, we live, we pass away. Are all of Dave Frohnmeier's children, do they all pass from the same? They passed. They had his daughter. It ended with him then, right?

Yes. But the key thing, though, was the fact that here's a person that had been Oregon's attorney general for three terms, was the nominee for governor of Oregon, was appointed president of the university in 1994. And I remember that even the Oregonian was calling his presidency one of the most remarkable performances in Oregon history. And then he died of prostate cancer at age 74. They contributed so much to this region, but also nationally, and we honor them. How do you think that—I know I'm asking to speculate, though.

How do you think Mr. Frohmeyer might have handled the woke era running the University of Oregon? Had he been running it in those days? Do you know? Hey, could you speculate? Care to? Yeah, I can speculate on that because I've seen it with different presidents at Southern Oregon University with different types of political leanings. And there is a navigation that they do instinctively so that they can have Salem support and be able to keep different types of First Amendment rights continuing on at the university. And it's a...

I mean, do you think they would have been embracing the trans agenda and putting dudes into women's sports teams, things like that? Or might he have... Of course, I don't know. Maybe it was such a big agenda in those days that no president of any system was able to resist it. I don't know. I'm just speculating. Bill, that's a very good question,

because I was thinking about that the other day, which is at all of the universities that we have here in Oregon, at least so far, we haven't had national explosions such as what happened in Maine in terms of men and women's sports, which is just a no-no. I mean, it has to do also with the fact that you really want to have a man who says, well, I'm actually a woman, who then goes ahead and dresses in your daughter's room, in her bathroom at school, where she's going to go ahead and play in an athletic sport. You know, Bill, one other quick thing there is that there was news about

a pole vaulter. And I used to pole vault, except I would just let you know, my pole vault, they high jump now higher than that. But in any event, the pole vaulter, and I think it was one of the eastern states, I think it was Maine. But in any event, the pole vaulter, who was in the women, he was a man who identified as a woman, won the pole vault by six inches. But when you put that feat with the male in the male competition, he would have been 13th. Yeah, but that shows you the reality that essentially all of the, or many of the dudes wishing to invade women's sports are essentially failed male athletes and are able to get a lot of attention, in just my opinion. But we'll see. But, you know, I'm sure you're right, because this particular one was interviewed and said,

I like to win. And I thought to myself, well, that's a cheap win. Well, that doesn't matter. You have a W, even if it's an ugly win in that world. But still, the whole idea, the part that has always amazed me about the trans agenda on this, especially with males and female sports here, Doctor, is what happened to the feminists? fought for all of these programs so that young girls and young women could actually go out there and get their scholarships and go out there and do their best, maybe even play professionally. And then they stand by as the dudes, as the fake women come in. It's just like, come on.

I just never got that. I was thinking about that the other day. And what occurred to me, especially with Dodge, is follow the money. Because when you look at these people where this is what Trump, as you're pointing out so well, is a 90-10 issue. Like where's the 10% that want to have men competing in women's sports? Where is that 10%, 90% in the country saying, this is just cuckoo? But you see, what happens is that follow the money.

These are the same people who are getting monies from Soros. The ones standing up here on all this, they have been bought and paid for. Yeah, why don't we hold that thought then? Why don't we hold that thought and maybe dig into that a little bit here, and if that might be changing because of the Doge issues. Although, I don't think that the email thing was a wise thing to do. Would you concur with me on that one? Any kind of employee evaluation should be coming from the people who are running those agencies,

like the Kash Patels and more. Do you agree with me on that? I don't think it's good for the chain of command. What say you? And I have a slightly different take, Bill, on that one. Okay. Because I think it's a brilliant move by Trump and Elon. Yeah, I disagree on that.

That's what they did. Yeah. All right, we'll agree. They're always very strong. We'll agree to disagree. We'll agree to disagree. All right, hang on, Doc. I'll be right back.

Okay, this is the Bill Maher Show, 770-5633. Hi, this is Cassie from Closet. On News Talk 1063, KMED. This is the Bill Myers Show on 1063, KMED. Back with Dr. Dennis Powers. And we've got John standing by. And, gentlemen, you were the way in on the Elon Musk thing. Go right ahead.

The emails over the weekend. You think I'm taking him too seriously? Well, look, to me, I'm not saying your point's wrong, but I think it's this classic Trump bill. It's almost like the whole terror thing. He comes out with something like this, whether it's him or Elon, and just people, their shorts are in a twist immediately. And I think it's kind of fun to watch i think at the end of the day that it's it's it that that's what it is this is how trump does things and this is how he keeps his his enemies on their heels okay well uh the one thing i will

say though is that his uh his appointees though it seriously, and they're telling all their employees to ignore him. So there we go. Appreciate the call. Let me go to John. John, you're on with Dr. Powers. You knew Dave Frohmeyer. He's your friend, right? Tell us more.

Yeah. Well, I went to undergraduate and graduate school there, and David and I became friends. I was part of the Alumni Association for a while, and I helped some kids get into school. But David had a huge political challenge. The students then decided they were going to boycott all of Nike. And Phil Knight said, well, if that happens, I withdraw my billion-dollar donation that I just made. Oops. And so David had to deal with the far left-wing woke students, and he did a brilliant job.

I mean, I don't know how quite he did it, but he worked with everybody, and he made it work. And also, the other thing is, his son John, I don't think, died of the disease as his three daughters did. I believe that his son John is still alive. Oh, and you know, you're absolutely correct on that. And how long were you working with David? As a matter of fact, you know, Paul Fadick

just, who's been a friend I've known for years, wrote an article about David on his association that was in the Courts. Yeah, yeah. Were you losing your phone a little bit, John? Could you speak more directly in the mic? Thanks. Yeah. Well, David and I were friends for over 20 years, and he was a tremendous guy.

I mean, I always thought that he had an ability. And also, his father, Otto, was my attorney. So, I mean, I was involved with the Bromeyer family forever since I got here. But Dave did a tremendous job, and he's the one that got Phil Knight to put up the billions of dollars, you know, the millions and millions of dollars that he has put up. And it was his relationship with Phil Knight that made the University of Oregon what it is today. And, you know, you're absolutely right about that, because now I do recall, you know, the Nike wokeness issue.

One of the questions that I had that I was trying to find an answer to was that on the Fraunmeier firm, which continues on, I don't see any descendants that are in the firm right now, although it's still a prestigious law firm in Medford. Yeah, do you know anything about that, John? I do. Bill Dethridge, who I used for years, too, he passed away. And so Frohmeyer Dethridge was the firm, but the original people that were in the firm are gone. So anyway, but Otto was a true gentleman. He also helped start the know, start the hospital here. He's the one that funded the local hospital. He did all kinds of things in our community. He was a tremendous person and a tremendous asset to the Rogue Valley.

Thank you so much, John, and a great call. Always appreciate that. Yeah, even just the formation of our Rogue Valley was it, our Rogue Valley Medical Center, our VMC at that time, now our RMC. Of course, I'm starting to get lost in all of the new names. Oh, well, you know, it was really an amazing job because the fact that he actually chaired this group that secured $2 million of funding that created Rogue Valley Memorial Hospital, now Asante's Rogue Regional Medical Center, and helped establish Mercy Flights.

And I can just see that with the attorney. And he was the attorney for, you know, let's say a number of these businesses, you know, we see his stamp now, and also with his grown children. It's just one of those ones where you're just very happy to say, yeah, I live here, and this is a great place to live. Well, the family really made their mark. They really did, and there's a reason for that, for sure. Hi, you're on with Dr. Powers. Who's this? Good morning. Hey, Bill and Dr. Powers, Brad again. I had to call in because Dr. Powers, you did such a great job. Dave Cronmeyer is an Oregon American hero. I actually knew his dad. His dad administered a couple of contracts that I did back in the early 90s, and he scared the hell out of me.

He was tall. He was imposing. He was always polite. But I knew that if I was doing a job that he was administering, I was going to get it right or he was going to have me for lunch. He was a very imposing man. That's really an excellent point. It really is, Brad. Thanks for making that, Brad.

Yeah, in other words, don't mess with the Fronemeyers, then they will take you down. It's kind of like, what was it, remember what Chuck Schumer said about the intelligence agencies? You mess with the intelligence agency. I guess it was like Dave Fronemeyer messing with the Fronemeyers. Let me grab one more call here. Hi, good morning. You're with Dr. Powers on Where Past Meets Present. Who's this?

Hello? Hello. Hi, who's this? Hi, this is Rich. Hi, Rich. What's on your mind? Hi. I just had a little funny story about Maribel Frohnmeyer.

I used to work at Quality Market. They were customers there. And she came in one day and bought her groceries, and we used to always take groceries out to the car. And she had her dog. They had a white Samoan dog. And that dog ripped every cushion of the chairs in that Lincoln that she had. There was foam and stuff everywhere. And as she walked up, I do not remember the name of the dog, but it was like, you know, Beethoven or something like that. Yeah, that's right. She was into classical music, if I recall, right? Yeah. Have you been a good boy?

And she goes, oh, no, you haven't been. I mean, no, just everything was just so, matter of fact, and both of them were such a class act to everybody in the community. I just remember that from waiting on them. But you're telling me that all the cushions in that Lincoln were torn up and the foam was everywhere, right? Oh, yeah. The headrest, the foam was out of it. And I mean, yeah, because it, yeah, it was just something. And I just, but she just was as calm as she could be, and no, you have not been a good boy.

It was just hysterical. Great story. These are great stories. They really are. And thanks for sharing that. That one made my day. I could see it in my mind, too. All right.

We'll take one more. Hi, good morning. Who's this? You're with Dr. Powers. Bill, it's jerry hi jerry hey uh i did meet otto fronmeyer and his wife on a couple of occasions and uh anyway i really didn't know them that personally but uh i was reading a book here a few years back, and one of Otto's good friends was a guy named Bill Bowerman. Oh, I'll be sure.

Bill Bowerman, I believe in his autobiography, said that, you know, you go through life and probably your best friends you can count on one hand. And he said Otto Fronemeyer was one of those guys. your best friend you can count on one hand. And he said, Otto Fronemeyer was one of those guys. And Bill Bowerman was, you know, the founder of Nike and all these football coach here and all sorts of things. That's a good story. And thank you for sharing it. Thank you very much, Jerry. Jerry the Bull, 839.

Doc, that was fun. I always appreciate you joining in here. And I very much, Jerry. Jerry the Bull, 839. Doc, that was fun. I always appreciate you joining in here, and I'll tell you what, we'll do this again next week. You ready for that? Sounds like a winner. Happy to, and be well and be safe, and it's always fun to work with you, and especially about the Frommers. By the way,

before we take off, is there anything in the current news cycle? It's so difficult to keep track on. What do you think is most intriguing to you out of all of the political news that we're getting right now? On the point that Musk made about let us know what you did last week, that really underneath this, the employees funded by taxpayers are going to face consequences after skipping in-person work today. And what I really liked about it was the fact that, yes, Department of Defense, my friend,

and others said, we will be handling this. But what I love is the fact they're saying, yes, we'd also like to know what you have done last week. And also, have you reported back to work? And we are going to be checking into this issue. Fair enough. Doc, thanks so much. We'll keep an eye on that one. Oh, before you do take off, Bill, birthright citizenship, the birthright citizenship challenge, what odds would you give that as it grinds its way to the Supreme Court? Because you know it's going to end up—they're going to take that case, won't they? They will take it on the executive order.

Excellent point, Bill. And it's going to be one to where the liberal far-left judges are going to be following the instincts that got them a district judgeship by being a good fundraiser for either Obama or Biden, and they're going to be going ahead and putting on injunctions, and it's going to be getting into the Supreme Court. I think it's going to be 50-50. You do. And I really do. And the reason is, is that I would say that the argument is strong, my friend, for Trump, but for the fact that I have a chief justice who is going to be weaseling and going back and forth. And so what could have been a 6-3 is going to be, it could be a 4-5 or a five, four in terms of which way you go. All right. So in other words, you wouldn't bet on it either way.

Gee, I'd wait until I started seeing it. But you see, there's nothing in the Constitution, nothing, not even in the cases that came in after 1896, that go ahead and hold, my friend, that if someone who's here illegitimately and just gives a... Is subject to the jurisdiction, right? Subject to the jurisdiction. And, of course, they'll make this case. They'll say, well, they have to follow the laws while they're here and it's like well yeah you know that would mean that i'm subject to the jurisdiction of paris police when i visited paris yeah you know i would be but does that mean but does that subject to this jurisdiction means that uh you know i dropped my kid here and all of a sudden it's a brand new citizen i don't think anything about the 14th ever meant that but there's a lot of stuff that

could be constitutional and yet not right and yet yet not good. Oh, I think you're absolutely right, especially given the fact that we're still fighting Nicaragua, and we're seeing it in terms of the judges that were really, including the last one appointed, I think by Biden in 2024, who is overseeing the trans issue for soldiers with the Department of Defense. And she went so far off because she is gay that the Department of Justice had to put in an ethics complaint about her because she was cross-examining people saying, what is your religion? That has nothing to do with it. That shows you how far gone it is that we're fighting in Nicaragua. Yeah, got a lot of work to do here. Thanks, Doc.

We'll talk next Monday, all right? Be well. Be well and be safe, my friend. All right. And we'll check news here with Bill London, also the latest from Town Hall News in just a moment. Gold, price of gold continues to just grind a little bit up, every little bit up, a little bit up.

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Members are now voting on the proposed deal. The deadline is 4 p.m. today. Bill London, KMED. And hopefully we'll have an answer by that time. 847 Bill's here. Bill, you have an Otto Frohnmeier story. Love to hear it go ahead yes my grandfather had a sawmill prospect and one of the employees sued him

and when they went to court auto frohmeyer was the uh the the you know was he defending your father uh father's mill or what, it was the opposite way. It was the guy that was suing him. He got beat really badly by Otto. He's such a high-quality attorney. And then after that, Otto became our family's attorney. Yeah, you saw the results. Okay, yeah, that worked out pretty well right it's uh

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banning the advertising of cigarettes on TV and radio, starting in January of 1971. When will Congress act on banning pharmaceutical advertisements on TV, radio, and social media platforms? Just curious. I don't know. It could be a, you know, I think a lot of it is going to be what comes out of the M-A-H-A agenda here, Make America Healthy Again.

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This is from Butch. Butch says, Bill, now that we have a water park we didn't ask for and now a convention center we didn't want, it will be fun to see these venues do battle to host events. The expo raped users with fees, then hurt RV parks by venturing into the private market. Now I see the Medford Rod and Customs show has moved to Rogue X. Makes perfect bureaucratic sense. Why use a venue next to I-5 when one can bury it in the bowels of obscurity and harder to find? At some point, Rogue Valley residents may wrest control away from RV cog,

unelected bureaucrats, and career-failed politicians and temporary city managers. Hail to Dan Jordan. Hail to the king. All right, Butch. Appreciate your writing here. Let me go to the next one here. Oh, Janet ended up writing me over the weekend. Bill had a chance to listen to the Dr. Malone interview without interruption this morning.

I had this on Clear Connections on Saturday and Sunday. Really enjoyed it and learned a lot. Janet, I'm glad that that helped out. I thought he was a very interesting interview indeed. And Jim Ketzel writes me, Morning. Question I would pose to the liberals is simple. Would you rather have the Doge team cut all the crap out of government spending

that supports crap in other countries, or have your Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, and other things cut to pay for the government waste. The country can't do both, or we will go broke. Hans Albuquerque weighs in here also this morning. Bill, any twosome gruesome newsome and his ilk sidekick Schiffshow are begging the dawn for federal funds of $40 billion to make California corrupt again, under the guise of relief for the recent Palisades fires in Who's Whoville. Only 25% is dedicated to home rebuilding.

25% to business loans and grants, Hans asks. I thought it was mostly homes that were lost. And what kind of businesses are we talking about? Couldn't possibly be reprobate green scams, could it, Hans poses. 5% for low- income housing tax credits who has a low income house in who's whoville and finally a whopping two percent towards fixing the actual aggravators such as water pressure brush mitigation infrastructure and they're demanding no strings attached i would just drive by if i was. Hans, I'm going to give you a real American salute. I think that was a great way of looking at it.

Real American salute for that email of the day. 854 and Change, you're on the Bill Myers Show. The French fries are so crispy and delicious. I'm Matt Stone with Stone Heating and Air, and I'm on KMED. 857. Going to wrap it up in a minute or two here. Tomorrow, of course, Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. All right?

The email bill at BillMeyersShow.com. Some more came in. I wanted to touch on them briefly here before I take it off for Mark Lee, Van Camp, and Robbins. Donald Olson writes me about the kids in Ashland influencing the other kids in Ashland known as the Ashland City Council. Not particularly a mature group in their thinking as far as i'm concerned about uh making sure that there was no doing everything possible to make it next to impossible for you to get natural gas in your home four thousand dollar cost to put a gas furnace in because of the climate you know that kind of thing and donald olson opines bill can we stop referring to it as a fee and call it what it is?

A fine. A penalty. You see quite clearly, Donald, another real American salute. And finally, we have Mark who wrote me and said, hey, Bill, what about the Fort Knox gold? You know, there's talk about the Fort Knox gold, right? And even Doge was talking about wanting to audit this, maybe get Ron Paul involved in it. That would be great. I would find this wonderful.

And Mark says, Bill, what if it's not there? We've been adding two positions for a couple of reasons. Gold continues to climb in the remote potential for accounting fraud. What are your thoughts? You know something? I'm suspicious about the gold in Fort Knox here, Mark. And one of the reasons for this is that if you – well, let me put it this way. If reality fits your narrative, if reality, if the evidence fits what you've been claiming,

that there's tons of gold in Fort Knox and that we've got a lot of this, then you put it out there. The military has refused anyone to look at it for decades, even Congress critters. That makes me a little bit suspicious. You can't take it to court yet, but I don't know. We'll see.