Bill Meyer Show Podcast - Sponsored by Clouser Drilling www.ClouserDrilling.com - 02-25-25_TUESDAY_8AM

Episode Date: February 26, 2025

Open phones on the various topics du jour, Open for Business with Lisa McClease Kelly and Network in Action members Mel Ford from Rogue Solutions Accounting and Ellie George from Home Quest Realty.

The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. 770-KMED. Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Take it away, Devin. How are you this morning, Devin? You're on the road.

What's going on? Good. How are you doing? Doing well. What do you think? Well, you're talking about things getting heated down here in Dresden County with fire maps and all that problem. Yeah. Then I see something floating around about 10 meters on residential wells.

Wondering how much traction that's going to have. Yeah, I ended up, I've been getting in touch here with Kevin Gill from Clouser Drilling, and he says that it appears that they have been able to kill the bill or kill the parts that, once again, they talked about the metering of the well for now. But as long as the state legislature is in session, that doesn't really mean anything. You know what I'm saying? So it appears that the metering of the well has been killed for now. Okay? Just goes to show you, you know,

they're just trying to price this out of this damn state, you know. It's one thing after another. Yeah, it is. I mean, you can't go to sleep on any of this stuff because there's another intrusion coming every day, no matter which direction you look at, from Salem and, frankly, FedGov, too. Hopefully the FedGov thing will get a little bit better. Good hearing from you, Devin.

7705633, deplorable Patrick is here to opine. Good morning, Patrick. Good morning, Bill. Thanks so much for what you do. My pleasure. Yesterday, there was a talk about sending $40 billion down to L.A. to take care of those people with burned-down houses. And, you know, frankly, I could use $40 billion myself. What do I have to do? Vote for idiot liberals that won't take care of the water reservoirs and defund the fire department?

Could I get something going? Well, by the way, that fire chief was fired, finally. Yeah. I just want to make a serious comment about this, though. If you got a million-dollar house down in L.A., I would venture to say that probably half of those people that got burned out have other wealth as well. Don't let them sit there and say, oh, thanks for rebuilding my house. They've probably got stocks and other properties and stuff like that.

They can't just all just stand there with their hand out and have their houses put back because we like them. You know, I want to be fair about this, Patrick, and I think the unspoken part or saying the quiet part out loud is what they're talking about is not L.A. the way it currently is. is they want to kind of make it more like that climate-friendly, equitable community sort of bullstein that Kate Brown, of course, envisions for downtown Medford and downtown Grants Pass and downtown Ashland and everything else. I'm not convinced that it's actually helping a whole bunch of wealthy people rebuild their homes. I don't think that's all about it. They don't want that. They don't want that coming back. They really don't. They seem to be almost at war with this concept of people having their private homes, at least from some of the planning that I've talked about.

Remember, they seem to be wanting to make that technocracy of Los Angeles, which I consider very dangerous, really. Well, I like your insights. I hadn't thought of that angle of it. I just, you know, these people, to me, they got it pretty good. And by the way, a million-dollar house in Los Angeles is a crap shack. You understand that, right? Yeah.

I was trying to be brief about it. I didn't want to go into a lot of detail. All right. But we'll think about it. The thing is, though, $40 billion, and I know we probably got a billion or two down here for Almeda, maybe more, I don't know. I don't know what the total of the Grandstream funding was.

But even then, look at how much of a focus there was on not building back what was there, because what was there was just bad you know i had people owning homes and they had affordable homes they were you know older uh manufactured housing and things like that we don't want that we want the shiny new climate friendly equitable community kind of model right i'm i'm starting to get way past tired of people saying, we don't want this, we don't want that. I think we, the taxpayers, need to talk about what we want.

All right. Fair enough. Thank you, Patrick. Let me go to the next line here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday on KMED and KMED HD1 Eagle Point Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. Good morning. Hi, who is this? Thank you. This is Gregory out in Shady Cove. Hey, Gregory. Grand Spass. Good morning. Hi, who is this? Thank you. This is Gregory out in Shady Cove. Hey, Gregory.

Nice seeing you the other day. Did you enjoy the outdoor show? Those were great. I've got a topic about the radios that you have. Those are nice office radios. Radios, they have an office. I've got a head injury. But that's a nice radio.

They have an office there. And then I'm going to talk about, do they have any 3D modular or the home 3D? They're not doing the 3D builds here. They're completely fireproof out here. Okay. What are the 3D? I'm not familiar with what you're speaking about. Well, I think they just bring out a machine out there. Oh, the 3D printing, the 3D printed homes, right?

Yeah. We had a person on there recently, well, within the last year, that was something about that one. And I'm going to go real quick about the sportsman show. That was pretty nice there. I'm just wondering if anybody really knows about if they're going to throw the fish in the pond, those trophy fish they had out there, whatever. Oh, into the Expo pond?

I can't answer that one. I'll ask Greg about it, all right? If you get that other guy about the TV home, he's got all the fireproof and stuff. Thank you, Gregory. And the Glees thing, the Glees Resort. That's another topic. All right. Another time. Thank you very much, Patrick glitch thing. The glitch resort. That's another topic. All right. Another time.

Thank you very much, Patrick. Nine minutes after eight here. A different Patrick writes me. Pac-Man says, Bill, if they build it, they will come? I would argue that a visit at Josephine County is that you can visit Crater Lake and, oh, wait, that's a different one. Pardon me. If they build it, they will come? Yeah, no. They would have misunderstood the phrase if they build it it will slum well i hope not

that's the whole idea you know i am going to invite the airport director to come on though and i know this proposed 190 what was it roughly i think give or take a 200 million dollar airport expansion i have no problem with this because it ends up being paid for out of ticket fees and things like that. But you've noticed an explosion of hotels that have grown up here in Southern Oregon. And we do seem to be pushed all the time to think that the way to wealth and prosperity is that we're going to have a lot of tourism and hotel jobs. Not that I'm against tourism and hotel jobs, but it would be, you know, is this all there is? I just get concerned that it is, well, it is discretionary money. This is the challenge I have with the focus on tourism.

It's discretionary money. This is the challenge I have with the focus on tourism. It's discretionary money. It's stupid money. And, you know, once you get past, well, I don't know, maybe we'll get wealthy having cornhole tournaments. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong about this and I'm short-sighted. Maybe I'm wrong. It's going to be cornhole and basketball tournaments and we're going to get wealthy here. Maybe there's enough stupid money, you know know that wants to do that kind of stuff i i

and i i hope i'm wrong if that's the case maybe i'm the wrong guy here this is insurance agent a hey he sells for one company only 18 after eight we continue the conversation on pebble in your shoe tuesday 7705633 this is a time for you to show your thoughts. Positive, otherwise. It doesn't have to be a pebble. It could be maybe a little pearl of wisdom if you wanted to. Pearl of wisdom, not really all that apparent in this story. I was just reading this morning on OPB.

OPB reporting that Oregon school districts say lawmakers screwed up light bulb bill. I know you're shocked, shocked and appalled that the Oregon State Legislature could actually screw up something. Right. But here's the deal. Charles Krupa writes this morning, Oregon lawmakers concerned about climate change, they had reason to feel good in 2023 when they passed what appears to be a common sense bill mandating that buildings swap out fluorescent lights, swapping out fluorescent lights for highly efficient mercury-free LED bulbs. Now, by the way, I have lots of LED bulbs already in my life. But this is what the school districts are saying.

The school districts are saying something very different about LED bulbs. You see, no one asked the school districts what they thought about the bill. And now a bunch of these school districts are coming to the state legislature with not very good stories. In Lebanon and Sheridan school districts, the district people complaining about LED bulbs that flicker and burn out quickly, distracting from learning because they are ill-su suited to work in the existing light fixtures they buzz they hum and they produce less than optimal light optimal light rather according to sean vesper the operations and facilities manager for the 700 students sheridan school district telling opb it affects these kids in ways that i can't explain and swapping outdated fixtures for better options can be prohibitively expensive, school officials say.

In the Salem-Kaiser School District, the state's second-largest superintendent, Andrea Castaneda, told lawmakers it would cost $42 million for the cash-strapped district to pull from its general fund to retrofit schools to use LED bulbs. So what they're asking then is the ability to be allowed to purchase fluorescent bulbs until at least the year 2030. That's what they're asking for right now, or else they're asking for more money to replace this. Now, if you're watching on Facebook Live, if you're watching me on Facebook Live, you're the people that are there, you're working or you're watching me under LED bulbs. In fact, I have LED bulbs that were replaced in the existing fixture. People came in and they did this a number of years ago. I have three or four LED light

bulbs that are behind me that are on a dimmer and they work just great and they've been working great for years. I think what it comes right down to it is what they're concerned about it and this is just going to be me spitballing it if you work within the facilities of Medford or Grants Pass School or anybody else. I think what's going on here is that all these school districts have been buying the LED fluorescent tubes or the LED replacements for fluorescent tubes that are designed to just go up in the regular fixture and work with the existing ballasts. We have two of those bulbs here at the radio station. I had to take them out because they suck. They just don't work.

They'll only work with the existing ballasts if they're electronic ballasts, and the ones that they have there are really, are most likely the old transformer style. That won't work. And so those bulbs, yes indeed, do buzz, and they hum, and they flicker, and then they burn out, and they just don't work. They're not very good but the fluorescent tubes that are above me right now you know that i have put in for facebook live those are just designed to be connected directly to 110 and i think where the i don't know if it's because the the people in the school districts don't want to get creative about this but you have to have some people come in,

whether it's electricians or whatever it is, and just bypass the ballast, and you just have to reconnect the 110 volts, the 110 volts to the two terminals on each end, and then all these things work great, and it works wonderfully. But I guess what they're saying is that hey we can't do something like that we can't modify the existing straight we have to have

brand new fixtures so yeah the law in the first place was stupid telling the school districts to not use them okay all right that you can't buy these things but it's also stupid to act as if they are helpless to be able to use and go get uh led in fact you just go down to a home depot and get led bulbs and replace them at probably about 10 11 12 bucks a piece but you have to rewire you got to get your people that are running your your buildings you have to get them to just uh bypass the ballast and make it work so the school districts are just looking for a handout. They would just like new lights.

And the state of Oregon, of course, is stupid by telling them that there's something wrong with the fluorescent bulbs in the first place. Of course, I don't know. I can't afford to have fluorescent bulbs around here anymore because you see how much they charge over at the landfill to get those things recycled. Oh, you got yourself a fluorescent light bulb, huh? Well, you know, we are an East Coast garbage company, and so we got to find a way to screw you. Curly fry? Curly fry bulb? That's got to be at least $15.

Mercury in it, don't you know? Oh, the tube? That's probably maybe $20. I actually think it's about $5 a tube or whatever it is, but it's absolutely outrageous. Maybe that's what the school district is really concerned about. You're having us have to recycle all of these mercury-filled fluorescent light bulbs, and it'll bankrupt the budget. I don't know. If you have any experience at that, they're just using the wrong LED bulbs, in my opinion. Okay. So there's a pebble in my shoe. What about you? Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Bill.

Bill, it's your friend Brad here. Hey, do I have your permission to talk a little more about Dave Fronemeyer? Sure. Yeah. I know you were visiting yesterday. We had him on. Sure. Well, yeah. So Dave Fronemeyer, one of the highest horsepower individuals ever born on the West Coast, probably in the top five of highest horsepower ever to come out of Medford, and a huge cautionary tale for all of us in modern-day Oregon in this way. So Rhodes Scholar became Oregon Attorney General. He was the guy that took on the Rajneeshis that bought the old John Wayne Big Money Ranch up in Antelope. You know, a lot of people forgot about that part of his history. I think they forgot about that one. Well, this Rajneeshi guy was big news.

I mean, he's the guy that had like 20 Rolls Royces. They bought the old Big Money Ranch. It made national news. And his people, they literally, on the day that everybody was voting, they tried to poison the food sources to suppress the voter turnout so that they could get their people. They were literally going to take over county government. His lieutenant was a gal named Ma'anan Sheila. She wound up, I mean, you can read this story on YouTube somewhere, but Dave Fronemeyer was the guy that took all that big, tall, good-looking kid, smart as hell, and he was a shoe-in for governor in the 1990 election. I mean, he crushed it in the primary, and running against a Democrat, Barbara Roberts, kind of a short little gal. Oh, I remember Barbara.

Weren't there rumors about that election having been manipulated? And that's what we're going to talk about because it has relevance today. So he crushed it. He crushed it in the primary. He was on the way to just absolutely decimate the left. And so the Democrats had to come up with outside the box thinking. So here's what they did. With dark money donors, they literally came up with a brand new party called the Oregon Citizens Alliance, and they recruited a single plank candidate named Al Mobley.

He only had one plank in his platform, and it was that he was pro-choice. Now, you might ask yourself, you know, back in 1990, how big of a deal was pro-choice? That was a big deal. The answer is it was big enough to get Barbara Roberts elected in this way. And a lot of people don't know that it was the Democrats that financed Al Mobley. In other words, they ended up financing a third-party candidate that was going to siphon away Republican votes. That's exactly right. So Barbara Roberts wound up getting 508,000 votes.

Dave Kronmeier got 445. Al Mobley got 144. There you go. If the people that voted for Al Mobley, he would have easily. And so that's why we're sitting here today in 2025, and the last Republican governor ever elected was back in 1982. Well, all I can say here is that if we want another Republican, it's time to finance big time. Instead of contributing to Republican coffers, we should be sending money to the Pacific Green Party.

What do you say? Because look at that. About the only statewide Republican one, or at least that was competitive, was the one that had a Pacific Green Party in there, siphoning off a lot of commie votes from the from the stronger commies okay so so the benefit we've got we've got an opportunity coming up in uh in the next election because a lot of this funny money we've discovered is these various uh sources of dark money are now being discovered because of the work of doge and it's good they're not going to have near as much access to funding as they did in the last election cycle so not only that but we have candidates that are much weaker they're the uh tina kotech wasn't all that popular

when she ran in the first place she's not even that popular within her own party she's not agreed that's correct so what we have is is, and I'm not talking about Republican, Democrat, Bill. You know, when it comes to this stuff is what we're talking about is business-friendly community builders, people that want to make lives better for their fellow Oregonians. That's what we're talking about. And there's an opportunity coming up in this next election cycle, and it's just so important for people. I understand if you're pro-life, conservative, Christian, Republican, that's great. But look to the big picture and realize we have an opportunity coming up.

We don't want to do what happened back in 1990 when we could have had a wonderful governor and Dave dave fronemeyer but because of that that outside third party run that was funded by democrats we wound up having nothing but uh progresses for the next what is it 40 years yeah 45 years here you know your challenge here and i know that um and i know where you're going on this this has been the this has been the battle the internal battle within the republican party of oregon is that um not every republican is a pro-life right to life republican is that kind of what you're alluding to and yet and yet that ends up that ends up being though the litmus test for most republicans especially in the primary races. And so what wins you in the primary races, unfortunately, I wish it weren't true, but unfortunately will tend to get you killed in a statewide election.

Seriously. And most of the electorate bill, as you know, isn't Democrat or Republican. The majority of the electorate in Oregon are people in the middle. They're non-affiliated voters. They just want safe communities for their kids to live in. All right. Unless they're unborn. The unborn kids, they don't necessarily care if there's safety.

This is the state of Oregon, and it is kind of a semi-official death cult. Yeah. Dave Cronenmeier would have been such a wonderful—I mean, it's just a shame. He would have been an outstanding governor, I mean, it's just a shame. He would have been an outstanding governor, that guy. He was so smart. Thanks for sharing the stories and your opinion about that. I forgot about the Rajneeshi stuff, and you're absolutely right. Going a long ways back then. What a difference it would have made. Thanks, Brad. 832 at KMED. Wipeout Hunger is over. Thank you to everyone who participated in our Wipeout Hunger

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And we have, once again, folks here from Network in Action. Lisa McLeese Kelly, of course. We know you're strong from Kelly's Automotive. We've been talking to you for years about this. But we're introducing more of the listeners here and business people to Network in Action. Tell us a little bit about the, for those that may have never heard of it now. Right. What's it all about?

So Network in Action is something completely different from maybe your typical networking. We get together only once a month. We have business owners and higher level executives. And we are coming together to mastermind, network, and grow deep relationships. I like to say that I coach them. I help them learn professionally, personally, and then how to grow their business. And it ends up ringing the cash register, too, which is also, I mean, not only doing good, but doing well, I guess, is part of what you're hoping to do. It's hard to get referrals from people unless they know who you are as a person.

Yeah. Right? So I know that you're in radio. I know there are a lot of people around here on radio, but I advertise at this radio station because I know Brian. I know his heart. I know he's not going to try and sell me something that I don't need. I know who he is, and I know his values. And you know how much pressure you've just put on Brian?

I'm just kidding. No, Brian is that way. And that's what we try to establish in NIA is we try to get them to know each other as people. Yeah. And the other aspect of this is that when it comes to the certain business classes that you have is that there's only one in each one of these network in action. What do you call them, hubs or? I would call them groups. Groups, okay.

And it's one person per professional classification. All right. And how do you get in touch to get network in action to join this maybe for your business? So right now I think the best way to get in is to find me on LinkedIn. Okay. Lisa McLeese Kelly on LinkedIn. I'm the only one there. Find me. Message me. Yeah, it's great to have that. It's not exactly a common name, is it? No, it's not.

Okay. Hey, I wanted to talk with a couple of you. Are these relatively new people joining the group here? No, these are some pretty seasoned vets here. Oh, okay. So they were going to put them under the... Seriously. Let's talk with Ellie George first. Now, Ellie, you are with HomeQuest Realty. Very well know about you. EllieGeorge.com.

And first off, what has Network in Action done for you? How has it worked out for you so far? Oh, I've been with Network in Action since I think the beginning. And it's a big change than other networking groups. I've always been. The other ones, in my opinion, sometimes attracted newbies. And sometimes I didn't really have the confidence to always refer to people because of their experience level. In Network in connection. The majority of the people that are attracted to that are seasoned in their different, um, businesses and they know what they're doing. Um, we meet once a month, quite frankly, I'm too busy to meet every single week,

especially at 6.00 AM. Not going to happen for me. I know that there are other networkers that kind of do that. I was just like, you know, like a a.m. I'm here. Yeah. Right. Exactly. We're in the thick of it. And so network in action, not only that we really learn and being a business owner can sometimes be a lonely place to be. So this is where you can network with other business owners and learn how to conduct business, how to support employees, how to do all that stuff. And have those relationships and mutually reinforce one another here. Yeah, it naturally follows because people do get to know, like, and trust you. Well, yeah, I like doing business with people who I know. Yeah.

Know and trust and feel pretty good about. So speaking of the business and, you know, real estate, how's that looking here in Southern Oregon? I'll get the news releases that are saying that more homes for sale or less homes for sale. It's kind of like unemployment rate kind of goes up and down. I never know how to quite interpret that. How's it looking right now? Well, right now we are pretty flat for appreciation levels over last year and the year before i would say we're up in some price points down in other price points i think overall we're expected to be two to three percent

appreciation and historically that's a healthy place to be yeah we're back to normal i think people i think i think people got to uh got used to the fact like now you know all i have to do is just sit in this house and it gains 10% a year. It's like, no, someone has to be able to pay for that on the other side. That's right. Yeah. And I guess this is, so chances are we're looking at probably less appreciation over the next few years until, especially because even interest rates right now, what, 6% right now? So we're between 6% and 7%, whether you're a conventional or fha that's not six and a

half to seven that is not a high interest rate historically historically i mean i paid that i was happy to get that in the late 90s early 2000s those sort of things but i think we kind of got spoiled there in super cheap money time yeah we got really spoiled and so that's not coming back um anytime soon so bit by bit though uh as the natural appreciation and inflation tends to go in there affordability will tend to just naturally increase i think over time yeah and you know there's things that we can do we have buy down rates some people will do a two one buy down and man if we get that doge money and I'm calling it a rebate, by the way, a doge rebate. I'd love to get that. Yeah, who wouldn't?

I don't say it's an incentive. Give me free money. Give me my money back. It's my money back. It's a rebate. I say, hey, go use that for a buy down on your interest rate on your next house. There you go. A few points.

A point here or there, right? There you go. You know, that kind of thing. Biggest misconception of our market. What would you say that is here in Southern Oregon? A lot of people got used to just putting their house on the market and knowing, hey, it's going to sell. Right now, if you have things that need to be done to make it show worthy, you need to do it. You better fix it then.

Yeah. They're selling for less. Fixer-uppers are selling for less. And homes that are really turnkey ready, they are selling for more now. I would also figure that with, gosh, how I look at that, fixer uppers there, the cost of labor has soared so much that to bring someone to do this kind of stuff would-

And materials. Yeah, would make people think, eh, I don't know if I want to do the fixer, right? Yeah, that's right. Unless maybe they're their own contractor. All right. Hey, good talking with you. Best way to have people get in touch with you 541-601-9582 or elliegeorge.com

all right very good so ellie's going to step aside here and our next victim here is mel ford you're good now you're going to have fun with this one right mel okay now mel is operating and sales manager at rogue solutions accounting and it's on 303 Northeast Street, Northeast E Street, rather, Suite 200C in Grants Pass. And I'll put all your information up on this one, too. So what do you do as far in your firm? Naturally, you're doing books and things, but what makes you different? Well, we do do books. We do bookkeeping and accounting, but we also do um well so sorry we don't do taxes

so that's i think that's one misconception that people have but you do the books you do the books so well that you're not in tax trouble i think is the main issue right correct so we prepare the way for your cpa is what i like to say yeah and what what sets you apart then, let's say, from other firms? So we help our business owners really understand their financials. A lot of business owners are overwhelmed by financial reports, understandably. Yeah. So we like to break it down for them and make it simple and easy to understand. One of those things where you bring a human part of it. I've been kind of concerned sometimes in which I'm trying to think what are some of these financial packages that they sell out there. It's like, oh, you individual businesses,

you could do this. You don't need anybody to look at this. We'll walk you through the software. Oh, my gosh. I can't tell you how many business people I've known that have gotten themselves in trouble doing stuff like that. Yes. And then you spend thousands of dollars in a cleanup because of that or not getting your taxes done correctly and having to fix your taxes. That's a big headache. Yeah. Yeah. Very good. What kind of changes do you see in the, in the accounting world these days? I mean, do you sit around there

kind of panicking if, if the tax cut bill does go away and then there's a complete different way of looking at how you would structure businesses accounting for taxes? I don't know. Potentially, potentially. But I think the biggest thing is that business owners are always going to need an advisor person in their life to help them with making those financial decisions. And so what we do really is always going to be relevant. You know, AI will replace some of the function of what we do, or at least it'll integrate into what we do i think ai replaces the bad ones yes okay yeah really yeah you can't replace a truly good accountant um you know with ai completely for sure a good accountant as far as i'm concerned worth weight in gold really when it comes down to protecting the integrity of your books and also good paper

trail. And is there anything else I'm missing here about this? Because I've just been a working schmo myself. I've never had the opportunity to use one. Well, I'd say it's for business owners, I think it's a lifeline that everyone needs. I think it's often overlooked. And I think in the beginning of your business, it's easy to overlook and bypass. But when you get to a certain point of revenue, I think it's essential to have on your team. Network in action. How has it helped you? What have you enjoyed in this?

I mean, very similar to what Ellie said. I think it's a higher level of connection, higher level, a deeper level of connection with those referrals. The people in that group have been instrumental in getting us referrals as well as, you know, helping us to really find the business owners that need us and that we like to work with all right so both and and really good personal relationships yes yeah they help me personally and professionally all right very good so hey mel i appreciate you coming in here we'll get all your information up maybe a quick one uh best way for people to get in touch with you rogueaccountant.com all right website now see that's easy yeah you, when you hear that term, rogue accountant. Yes.

She hoists the black flag and is going after your books. We are. Yep, that's us. There we go. Thanks, Mel. Thank you. Great talking with you. Lisa, thank you for bringing these people by here. It's great to get more people to recognize Network in Action. One more time to get the latest on Network in Action. How do they get a hold of you? Go to LinkedIn and look up Lisa McLeese. Kelly, it's M-C-C-L-E-A-S-E. We'll catch you next time. Thank you. Lisa McLeese, Kelly, and of course, Ellie and Mel,

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You know, Scuba's laughing. He's next door in the studio with me. But anyway, let's see if we can get you set up here. And we're talking about some history. Let's see. Let me go to the phones. Let me see who's there. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Good morning, Bill. This is see. Let me go to the phones. Let me see who's there. Hi, good morning.

Who's this? Good morning, Bill. This is Jerry. Jerry. You'd like to win the Diner 62 quiz, wouldn't you? Yes, I would. Get yourself those burgers or half-ham special, all the other things they do there? All right.

Yes. So, it was February 25th, 1779. British surrender, Fort Sackville. I've never British surrender, Fort Sackville. I've never even heard of Fort Sackville, have you? I have not. All right. But Fort Sackville is surrendered, marking the beginning of the end of British domination in America's western frontier. Now, 18 days earlier, George Rogers Clark left on the Mississippi River with about 170 guys, including Kentucky militia and French volunteers. The party traveled over 200 miles of land covered by deep and icy flood water

until they got to Fort Sackville in Indiana. It was February 23, 1779. Now, inside Fort Sackville, Hamilton had only 40 British soldiers and an equal number of mixed French volunteers. French settlers fought on both sides. And there was also militia from Detroit. Now, what was a major contributing factor that helped the British surrender? It convinced them to surrender and give up.

What was it? Was it A, the U.S. contingent looked larger than it was? B, food was dwindling and being rationed. C, a U.S. envoy warned the reinforcements were intercepted. D, the U.S. set the fort on fire. Boy, that's a big one. Or was it E, French volunteers inside the fort threatened a mutiny? It's one of those five.

What compelled the British to surrender? Only one of them is true, okay? Well, I really like the fifth one, but I think the food was dwindling. The food was dwindling. That's a good one. No Diner 62 to supply the fort, right? That's right.

I'm sorry. It wasn't this time. Good try, though. So we're going to skip this one. So it is not the food. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is it is not the food. Hi, good morning. Who's this? This is Mike.

Hey, Mike. What compelled the British to surrender Sackville? Was it U.S. contingent looked larger than it was? An envoy warned that reinforcements were intercepted? D, the U.S. set the fort on fire? Or E, French volunteers inside the fort threatened to mutiny? We were going to mutiny. Which one was it?

How about A, the look like there was more of them? It looked like there was more. You think that the Brits were fooled by such a simple trick, right? Yes. Yes, you're right. Oh, yeah. While there were several contributing factors, the biggest was that Clark managed to make his 170 men look like 500 because he had them hold and wave a bunch of flags suitable to a larger number of troops. And so the woodsmen that were filling Clark's ranks were able to fire at a rapid rate that reinforced Hamilton's sense that,

boy, there are a lot more people out there than we think. And meanwhile, Clark began tunneling under the fort with the intent of blowing up the gunpowder stores within it. And also when a Native American raiding party tried to return to the fort from the Ohio Valley, Clark's men killed or captured all of them too. So needless to say, you're right. They faked them out.

And I love stories like that, don't you? Those are just great. I love that kind of stuff. Yes. All right. Hang on. We're going to send you to Diner 62. I just need to get you on here and get your address and have a lot of fun.

Thanks for playing. This is Brent with Home & Built Deck & Fence. Many customers in the Rogue Valley ask for a discount. And the S&P 500 is down 54. And that's your money now. It's 859. Hey, we're about ready to wrap up here getting set for wheels up wednesday although some people are saying why don't you rename it something different

pac-man writes me this morning by the way emailing bill at bill myers show.com and bill what is this about the uh you know the curly fry light bulb funny he says bill i think it's funny they don't want us to put mercury in the landfills but they don't think twice about putting fluoride in our drinking water now now to be fair though we don't do that here in southern oregon yeah we don't have that issue although maybe there's a little bit of naturally occurring fluoride but your point well taken and you'll be happy to know that after the recent studies, they're starting to figure out that, yeah,

fluoride really has been causing what they believe are some IQ deficiencies in long-term studies that they've been looking at. And so finally, the fluoridating of water supplies appears to be going away and going away big time, all right? Maybe we talk more about that. I so appreciate your writing in the email bill at billmyershow.com. See you tomorrow.