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Episode Date: February 27, 2025

Open phones, Eugene Emeralds want to move here, wanna pay for a ballfield, Kevin Starrett from Oregon Firearms...insane democrat party bills including making CRIME PAY AGAIN in Oregon...take a listen.

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Like we mentioned, 770-5633. But I wanted to ask you a quick question here. How much would you like to see your parks fee in Medford, let's say, go up in order to attract a ball game or a ball team? I think it's a serious question worth talking about. Now, I don't know that they're going to necessarily do this, game or a ball team? I think it's a serious question worth talking about. Now, I don't know that they're going to necessarily do this, but, oh, I got to tell you, I could imagine the good old boy network of Southern Oregon would crawl over glass to get a good minor league team here.

That's just my opinion. This is always one of the things because all you have to do is just say it may have something to do with tourism. That's all you have to do. And look, look, look, look, we can do this. Well, the reason I bring this up is that the Eugene Emeralds are going to be leaving Eugene because they're not happy because the taxpayers up there would not pony up $100 million to build a new stadium. Right now they're at PK Park, I think, which is what, University of Oregon? I think is what has that. And the taxpayer said, no, no, we don't want to tax ourselves $100 million and go into

the hotel motel tax in order to pay for your training facility. That's in essence what's going on. Well, yesterday, according to NewsWatch 12, there was a meeting with the Eugene Emeralds people with Medford Parks and Recreation. Now, I don't know if anything's going to come of this, but I wanted you to be aware that we'll just call it the grift alert. And there is nothing that the city of metford in my opinion that loves to do

more there's nothing they love to do more than to to do anything that might fill up motels in southern oregon or somehow benefit the tourism industry and hanging around the neck of the taxpayers whether it is the you know the aquatic warehouse as contrasted with you know neighborhood pools which are an expense i get that i understand this but you know i just want to make sure you understand this but they left eugene because eugene wouldn't pony it up now i think at you know you look at gee the med the Medford Airport wants to expand. They're going to do this. We're going to do that.

We're going to build more of this and that and the other. And I could see this be talking about, hey, we're going to give you a convention center good and hard. We're going to give you a ball stadium good and hard, taxpayers. I just want you to be aware that this is probably what is going on in the background of the good old boy network. Wanting to make sure that more tourist attractions end up getting hung around the neck, hung around your neck. Privatized profits, socialized costs, more of that. I just wanted to make sure that you understand this. Now, I don't know what's going to happen. Like I said,

there was just the initial meeting, but it's fascinating to read Tim Quididamo's story on KDRV. Benavides, who is the guy from Eugene Emeralds, we currently don't have a locker room that we can occupy for almost half of our season, Benavides explained.

We have to bring in trailers and portable showers. We just don't meet the major league requirements at PK Park. Even if we're the only team playing there, it still wouldn't meet those standards. So we have to upgrade tremendously and spend a significant amount of money to upgrade this current facility and still have to manage the overlap with the Ducks. Oh my goodness, they have to share with the Ducks, That sort of thing. Now, there are currently no facilities in Medford or anywhere in the Rogue Valley that meet the PDL standards, the PDL grift standards, which is you pay for their private sports team's ability to train and have the best standards.

Now, that means if the city of Medford and eugene emeralds end up reaching an agreement to relocate a price tag would likely come along with the emeralds that said it's still far too early in the process to know what an agreement or cost would look like it's super early benavides told newswatch 12 when where the emeralds are in the process of possibly relocating to medford we're just in the exploratory phase. Maybe they're not even interested, but we do think that there is an opportunity. The opportunity meaning to grift from you. That's always what it means.

And let's be really clear. If anybody tries to make the case that having the Eugene Emeralds would increase tourism, smack them upside the head. Because Grumpy Bill London, my news guy, of course, he's in Eugene. He's telling me about it all the time. He says, the only people that go to the Eugene Emeralds games, and they're a good team. It was fun. It was fun to watch them.

But it just ends up being the same local crowd they would come in. Yeah, occasionally you have people coming in from out of town, but it's a small being the same local crowd they would come in yeah occasionally you have people coming in from out of town but it's a small amount even their own numbers in eugene didn't support us spending a hundred million dollars but so the attempt will be here the the attempt will be coming i'm sure they're going to try to float something i don't know what parker parks and recreation said yesterday but i wanted you to be aware of this is because kind of you know going on behind well it's all but I wanted you to be aware of this, because kind of, you know, going on behind, well, it's all the down low.

You know, we wouldn't want to get people upset. They know what I would say about this. As far as I'm concerned, if the Eugene Emeralds want to come to Medford, they can build their own damn stadium. Thank you very much, and leave it at that. 770-5633. 20 minutes after 7, let me go back

to the phones. Let's go to line two. Hi, good morning. You've been holding a little bit. Who's this? Hi, Bill. This is Bob from Medford, and I have a question about cars. I recently had taken my 1999 Chevy Lumina in for inspection, and the mechanic told me that the engine was an awesome engine. And he said the only problem was that they have a, let's see what they call it here. Which engine is it, Bob? Is it the 3.8 V6? Yes.

Uh-huh. Okay. Yeah. That's kind of a Pontiac. They are known to be a very reliable engine. What was the problem, though? Well, he said the main problem that they have, and I was just wondering about a recall. I know it's an old vehicle, but he had to replace the intake manifold gasket because it was leaking,

and it was leaking antifreeze into the oil and vice versa. That is a very common, the Pontiac, and I remember this because my mother had a 92, 93 Bonneville for a while. And it had that same style intake gasket, and it was well known to uh to end up uh corroding if you especially if you didn't change the uh the radiator fluid a lot and then they would corrode and then cause problems yeah so that's that's a known issue it's not a recall though i don't think no recall yeah it cost me 1200 bucks to have it done but wow yeah well it's a lot to remove i guess to get to that point huh oh yeah you have to tear off the whole top of the engine to get to it but uh i was just wondering i thought

that's pretty old they got 60 000 actual miles on it well that's barely broken in that's barely well i'll tell you what bob i i think now that you've spent the 1200 even though it's a lot of money yeah yeah, that's a lot. Yeah. With only 60,000 miles, you can probably keep driving that for a lot of years. Keep changing the fluid, though, okay? Yeah, it'll outlive me for sure. How often do you change your coolant?

Oh, the coolant. I take mine down to Quinson Rents. Yeah. Well, we're getting to the point where it's some of the cheapest stuff to do. Every two or three years is what mechanics are telling me now. Don't let it go. I know they'll say things like, well, this is good for 10 years and 300,000 miles. You'll see that on the bottle of Prestone or something like that. And I'm thinking to myself, yeah okay uh 300 000 miles of course we will have long forgotten about your claim after we've junked the vehicle so anyway just

get it changed okay thanks for the call bob good luck with that and let me go to line one and by the way i'm just a baby mechanic as someone who has rebuilt a few engines that's all uh good morning hi who's this hello this is Brad. Brad, how you doing there? S-O-M. Hey, brother. Hey, your car guy brought up a topic because I just had to have my car worked on, my wife's car. And it's just, it's representative of our economy. But my mechanic, and he's a great mechanic, he charges $130 an hour and he's cheap.

$130 an hour is cheap, huh? He was telling me that the car dealership shops are getting up to $200 an hour. I don't know if that's true, but $150 wouldn't surprise me. Huh. But it just speaks to how expensive everything is anymore compared to what it used to be. Well, let's say it is $150 or $200. Well, you have to figure, you're not paying the mechanic $150 to $200. You're paying the shop $150 have to figure you're not paying the mechanic 150 to 200 you're paying you know the shop 150 and then you're paying for the shop and you're paying for the

one percent corporate activity tax you're paying for probably the environmental uh disposal fees on coolant and oil and and various other things i imagine there's a lot of moving parts on a car repair place, really. You know, I understand. I'm a business guy. You've got to pay your bills. It's just crazy how regulation has come in and it's just jacked up everything. I'm hoping that with the Trump administration that there is a way to at least staunch the bleeding. I don't think we're going to be seeing huge bouts of disinflation or deflation.

I don't think that's in the cards because they continue to keep cutting hot checks for right now. But even if we could hold the rate of increase, give us some chance to catch up. Would you agree on that much? Oh, absolutely. And I want to speak on another topic just real quick because you and I are close to the same age. I'm 70. I grew up in what I consider pretty good years in our world, our culture. And I'm thinking of the guy that called in about his daughters. Could for him to stand up about common sense.

To think that you would even have to stand up for your daughters and keeping fake women, dudes in dresses, out of the locker room and out of, you know, competing against your daughter. That shows you how corroded it has come. And I tell you, this kind of thinking, this line of thinking, this Marxist thinking, this divisive thinking needs to be ripped out by the roots. It really does.

Well, and what comes out of that, this is a little personal, but we all, my age group, if you were in sports,, if you were in sports, especially if you were in school, even PE, you had to hit the showers. It was no big deal to hit the showers when we were young. It wasn't creepy. Now, you know, I'd be scared to death to have my kids

hop in the showers. Fair enough. Thanks for the call, Brad. Good hearing from you as always, okay? Open phones continue. We're going to talk with Kevin Starrett here in a few minutes, too, about some of the firearms bills and other issues, including the militia bill, which is worming its way through

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This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease. 730 at KMED, you're on the Bill Meyers Show. Appreciate you waking up here. We'll check news here in just a moment. Some of the news I couldn't help but notice in the Rove Valley Times. I love this. I love this, because I was just talking about, you know, making sure that you're on the grift alert to look for proposals that

we should have the Eugene Emeralds come to Medford. And Medford taxpayers, you wouldn't mind paying more would you even though eugene you know saw through the uh the grift from the ball club and said uh no no we're not going to pay you 100 million dollars we're not going to put ourselves in debt 100 million dollars to build you a shiny new ball club all right maybe this uh sports team socialism stuff is finally coming to an end. But I have to tell you, there are city after city after city that essentially is has been putting its taxpayers, its poor taxpayers into debt in order to pay for sports teams. Right. And they'll they'll talk about economic activity and vitality and look at how much money we will throw. Baloney, baloney. I see another story this morning, which is quite interesting, too. And this is in the Road Valley Times.

Momentum gathers for a safer, cleaner, more fire-resistant Bear Creek Greenway. Damian Mann writing this for the Road Valley Times. An effort to create a safer, cleaner, more fire-resistant Bear Creek Greenway. Gathering momentum as Medford and other cities explore ways to improve the 22.4-mile bike and pedestrian path. In a recent study session, Medford City Council received a rundown of the proposal from Jackson County, which is spearheading this effort. The study received about 3,000 responses from residents who indicated crime was a top concern for the Greenway. So Medford residents could pay, on average, we'll just call it $50 a year in increased property taxes for a proposed taxing district. That would require voter approval from the city as well as from Ashland, Talent, Phoenix, and Central Point. The proposal, fleshed out in a study from Alta Consulting LLC,

calls for a $5.9 million initial investment to thoroughly clean up the Greenway Corridor on public lands and strengthen fire breaks and remove vegetation to help prevent another Almeda-type fire, which destroyed almost 2,500 residences in Ashland, Talmud, and Phoenix. And park rangers could patrol the Greenway in order to provide additional security. All right. The one thing I'm not seeing here, though, is a safer, cleaner, more fire-resistant Bear Creek Greenway must be a bum-free Bear Creek Greenway.

Concrete camper Greenway. Free Greenway. You know, getting that. No more homeless people living in there and stretching a bucket across Bear Creek so that they can drop their trousers and defecate into Bear Creek Greenway. Okay? That's it. Now, if it were up to me, if we're just going to call this a park, then sell the damn thing off. If for some reason our cities can't afford to keep brush down on the lands, obviously

we're not very responsible owners of this sort of stuff but i guess we have to pay more to to do this to weed whack it and all this kind of stuff so um it's always a looking for a way to mulct all right now i know that chances are this is down in flames getting everybody to agree is probably not going to be the thing to do. But it doesn't need nearly as much of the cleanup and all these things that they're talking about that would cost $9.3 million as it needs being a bum-free zone. Because it's not mom and dad and the kids riding their bicycle down the greenway, which is causing the fires. It's the bumdom. The bumdom. Get rid of the bumdom and 90% of the problem is gone on the greenway.

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now yesterday, I just want to let you know, I talked with a state Senator Noah Robinson and I said, of course, this is, you know, he's live from the marble nuthouse, right? In Salem. And, you know, is it, is it getting better? Is it getting worse? And he says, well, he kind of was telling me that if anything, many of the mostly Democrat legislators are becoming even more unhinged with some of the bills which are being released, because I think, what, wasn't yesterday the deadline to get all of your bills in that you'll be looking at here? And it's some pretty nutty stuff going on there, right? Yeah, yesterday was the deadline for new bill introduction. Of course, there's always exceptions for, you know, there are certain exceptions,

but for the most part, that was the deadline. So there was a bunch of new bills that got introduced. And I think that I think the Democrats are becoming increasingly unhinged. I think they're even kind of admitting it. You know, there was a email that was put out by far left Paul Evans complaining about how, you know, upset everybody is and how morale is dropping amongst the Democrats because they're finally having their grips exposed. And it's just a horrible thing, you know, because basically Donald Trump is Hitler and he's going to end the world because, my God, you know, trillions of dollars are getting flushed down the toilet. That actually goes somewhere and it goes into the pockets of the friends of the Democrats.

Yeah, it seems like certainly a lot of it was going here, especially in the NGO world. And the NGO world, I think, is going to have a serious talking to, or come to Jesus, maybe, over the next few months. Who knows? You know, I certainly hope so, because if you look at virtually any day, if you look at news from Portland, and of course, most of the news from Portland is basically just rubber stamp press releases that the cartel media puts out on behalf of the Democrats. But every now and then you will see something truthful slip through. And usually what you'll see with any money that goes to these NGOs disappears. Nobody knows where it went. And it's given to organizations that have no qualifications run by people who have

no background in whatever it is they're trying to do, except that they contribute to Democrats. And what we're seeing now with some of the bills, I mean, this guns in the Capitol to be able to do so after the state legislature stopped everybody else from being able to carry concealed in the state Capitol. Right. Yeah, well, I'm an equal opportunity offender and I have no particular love for what the Republicans are doing in this state. But, yeah, I mean, essentially what it says, there's a Democrat on this bill, but what it says is you people, the little people, the great unwashed who actually own this building, who hired us, you people still have given up your rights to defend yourself on capital property, which you had for decades. And nobody had any problems with it whatsoever. There was never

any trouble with it. The rug got pulled out from those people because of people like Krasavsky and Evans and all of those folks who decided that the little people shouldn't be allowed to exercise their rights. But now there's a bill up here to allow the anointed ones, meaning the legislators and their staffers, to carry guns in the Capitol. Well, first of all, I don't understand how this doesn't violate constitutional provisions where people are supposed to be treated the same. You know, what makes legislators and their staffers, for crying out loud, staffers are typically to the left of the legislators.

What makes them different and better than the rest of us? Well, what makes them different and better than the rest of us is that they're in political power. That's what it is. It's an arrogant slap in the face. And, you know, I'd be interested in hearing them explain why they thought this was a good idea, why they thought it made sense to put a communist on this bill. Representative Chai Chi is a member of the socialist democrats you know an atheist communist

atheist communist yeah i want her and her crazy staff carrying guns around on the capitol when the good people of state are told they can't i imagine that what they will likely say and i think court voices on this bill right maybe i'll have to talk to court about this. I'm sure that they're thinking that this will be an incremental attempt to get concealed carry just reintroduced to the state capitol in general. What do you think about that? Might that be? Well, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the explanation. But I also know that once one group of people manages to to grasp more power, they're not going to give it up. And anybody who, you know, look, voice is on this bill. Javadi's on this bill. Skarlatos is on this bill. McLean's on this bill. David Brock Smith. And unfortunately, Kim Thatcher,

that really surprised me to see her on this bill. But even if you were going to make that explanation or excuse, it's still so obviously an insulting, arrogant slap in the face to the people of the state. You know, what makes a staffer for Representative Brock Smith more qualified to be in that building than you are. It's just insane. It's outrageous. There's nothing logical about it because it's the same rules to be a concealed carry, whether you're a state capitol person or whether you're, you know, Bill Meyer or Kevin Starrett. You know, that kind of thing. We all met the same qualifications, okay?

You get someone like Chai Chi, whose career is, I mean, look, the woman is not, it's not speculation. The woman's an out communist. Her whole career is about taking away the rights of everybody else. But the thing is about communism is that taking away the rights of everybody else. It's animal farm in which, well, everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others. And that's what this concealed carry bill would be. Normally, I would be in favor of anything which would expand concealed carry, but not for the legislature. For everyone, it would be okay. Not for the only ones, not for the anointed ones. These are the same people who actually have a bill that's being heard today to legalize theft.

Oh, I want to talk about that a little bit, because right before you came on, you were on hold when I was talking about the latest plan to clean up the Greenway. You know the Greenway in Southern Oregon? Have you ever noticed that, Kevin, when you came down here? I don't know that. But essentially the Alameda fire burned up and down the Greenway a lot because, well, it's filled with bombs and it's always catching on fire. But it's not catching on fire because of mom and the kids riding their bicycle. It's catching on fire and in trouble because of mom and the kids riding their bicycle. It's catching on fire and in trouble because of bums.

And so the momentum is gathering to tax people, or at least to ask us to tax ourselves to be able to clean up the Greenway and we'll be doing all of this stuff. But I see nothing about involving making it a bum-free zone, which is the real issue. But nobody wants to say that, I guess. So now the state legislature wants to grant more privileges to bums and criminals is what you're telling me, right? Yeah. And, you know, crazy bills get introduced all the time.

But you would hope that the craziest of them would not be taken seriously and be given here. And Chad cost you four or five thousand dollars to write them. But, I mean, the level of insanity of this bill is off the charts even for Oregon. And we're talking about House Bill 2640. I was wondering if you could tell us what this is all about. This is a beauty. It really is. This bill is actually getting a hearing today in House Judiciary at three o'clock. So the first part of it, which catches my eye, is it makes it legal to spit on the police. Okay, well, maybe that'll really bother you if you're the police. It bothers me because I don't think you should spit on anyone.

Agreed. But then it goes on to say a number of things. The ones that really stand out is now it makes it no longer a crime to steal stuff. So if you want to steal condoms or birth, other birth control, food or water or tarps, that is no longer a crime. And if you are a violation now, it's like a parking ticket. If you get written up for that or more serious things and fail to appear in court, that's okay too. You don't have to appear in court.

All right, so you can steal stuff. You don't have to go to court if you are even ticketed for having stolen this stuff. This doesn't sound all that different from what San Francisco or what California was doing with that. What was it, a thousand? If it had to be over, what was it, about a thousand dollars in value before they would come and arrest you? That kind of thing. What is the difference between that? There is no difference.

I mean, this bill actually has a list of things that you are allowed to steal. Okay, now is it like birth control and things like that so that the homeless don't get each other pregnant? Is that what it is or what? It's condoms, then they can steal it. It's food, water, clothing, health care or medical supplies, shelter, including but not limited to tarps and tents, reproductive care items, menstrual products, child care items. So they can steal baby diapers. They can steal, you know, feminine protection, all that kind of stuff. I would imagine what could you steal adult incontinence diapers to, I guess. Sure. And then you can turn around and sell this stuff.

This is including but not limited to not limited to soap, disinfectant and toilet tissues. OK, OK. You can steal this stuff, and then you can sell it back on the black market, and that's not a crime anymore. And if you're a sex offender who doesn't register, and you get caught, all you have to do is say to the cop, well, I'm willing to register. And if you do, you don't get charged with anything for that either. I mean, I could not have dreamed up this level of insanity, even with the people in charge of Oregon. And for it to be taken this seriously, to be getting a hearing, like, okay, what about the small business people in Southern Oregon who already have an issue with shoplifting? Now you told the same

people who are destroying the community by camping there, you can steal from these small businesses. It's okay. If you don't show up in court, that's okay. And if a cop questions you, you can, you can spit on the cop, right? Spit on them. Plus it, you know, it changes the laws of harassment that if you, if you, you know, if you're driving suspended, that's okay. Okay, wait a minute. Now, who is the mental giant who ended up putting out this House Bill 2640? Who wrote this?

Who put it together? Well, guess what? We don't know because it doesn't have any sponsors' names on it. Oh, no. Is this one of those, like, joint resolutions of something in which everybody just, you know, it's like, hey, I kind of like this, but I can't put my name on it sort of deal? Well, it was filed at the request of the, it was filed by the Judiciary Committee. So the whole committee at the request of, guess who? Oregon Criminal Defense Lawyers Association.

And that's the key. Oh, my gosh. All right. So the commie defense lawyers association and that's the key oh my gosh all right okay so the commie defense lawyers okay who happen to be pretty damn big contributors to the democrats my gosh they just want to get all their clients off is all they're trying to do right well that's what it looks like you know the the bums are probably mostly represented by you know uh you know, public defenders. Sure. Like, let's reduce our workload. But at the same time, you know, the simple just what you are saying to people who produce what you're saying to people who are trying to be functioning members of society is you don't matter that the people who are parasites, you know, I know Elon Musk is taking a lot of heat for this.

But the fact is, there is a parasite class. There really is a parasite class. And this bill says to the parasite class nationwide, come to Oregon. Not only can you take all the drugs you want, because we really made no changes in that law. But you can be an even bigger parasite because you can steal everything you want for the most, as long as it's something that you need for life, right? You know, food and all these things. Or something that you need to resell, you know? I got to tell you, I would have thought that after California's experience with a similar type law, that there would have been sharper minds in charge here. Now, does giving a hearing or getting a hearing mean that this is possibly going to get passed

out of committee, though? Do you think there's support for it? Well, typically there's there's I mean, sometimes bills are given a hearing just so that they they fit deadlines and then they mess with them later. Sometimes they're given a hearing to kind of throw a bone to the people who've requested it. But the fact is, once it's gotten a hearing, it is not dead. You know, there's deadlines where they have to schedule work sessions. But for the most part, bills and judiciary get hearings with the intention that they pass. If the bill gets out of committee, and typically it's very, very rare for a committee to hear a bill that it does not intend to pass. It happens, but it's very rare. If that bill gets out of committee and gets to the floor, it's passing because the Speaker of

the House and the Senate President only bring bills to the floor that they know they have the votes for. To see a bill fail on the floor is so rare in 30 years. I think I've maybe seen it happen once or twice. Now, let's think about our fine Republican friends in the state Senate and or the state House, okay? They don't want to walk out on gun rights, apparently. They've made this clear. You know, we've been told that there are just not enough votes. There just aren't enough votes to do this. Do you think they might be willing to walk out and deny quorum over a bill like this, which would essentially destroy their entire retail community here in Southern Oregon, anybody that has their doors open to the bummedom? Look, with few exception, the people who represent Oregon in the Republican caucus are interested in one thing, and that is feathering their own nest. If you've seen the recent stories about Greg Smith, longest serving House rep, Republican from Houston, Oregon. Annual salary, they know, is over a million dollars, okay? Why is he in the legislature? Because he serves on the right committees,

because he votes with the Democrats when they need a Republican vote. The building is full of grifters. The building is full of people who want to have that office for whatever benefit they can get. I'll bet you, though, that junkyard dog Dwayne Yunker would walk out. I'll bet you he'd walk out over that. I think Noah Robinson would walk out. I mean, there's several people who would walk out because they already can't run for re-election. But the reality is, is that this whole thing about not being able to run for office again is a negotiating point.

And they still have the numbers to walk out and shut this down. But, you know, Brock Smith has already said, hey, I always just wanted to be a senator. I'm not giving this up. And when you see people like that who can vote for money to go to nonprofits that pay him, they're not going to walk out. There's very, very few representatives who are there for the benefit of the people who sent them there. And the problem is, is that most people reflectively vote a certain way because they make the mistake of thinking that if they're in my party, if they're Republicans, they share my values. And that's practically never the case. I mean, if you look at the Iverson cabal, their only value is enriching themselves. well here's the challenge we've we've we've gone

through this before here kevin here is the the challenge that you run into um is that then people will write me after we have a talk about this and they'll say bill why are we always bagging on the republicans you know when we uh when we talk about this and and i try to explain to them it's like listen i know how jeff golden and pam marsh are going to behave and nothing that i say is going to change their behavior right you know that's what i'm what i'm getting at uh you know commies are going to commie fire map uh all of these other things that we are dealing with these other intrusions here our issue though is getting republicans to actually pull and act like Republicans and

actually, you know, you know, represent us and actually help us out. And that's still not happening at the moment from the looks of it. The Democrats in Portland and Eugene told us what they were going to do. The reason I attack Republicans and why they're so angry at me is because those are the people who promised to represent us. Those are the people that people with our values put in office with the expectation that they would do that. They're the people who promised to represent us. Those are the people that people with our values put in office with the expectation that they would do that. They're the people who are really screwing us. I don't have no expectations of a Rayfield or, you know, any of the other liberal Democrats who have made it clear that their desire is to crush the state.

I want to see some responsible activity on the people who promised me to protect our rights, for the people who campaigned saying, look, I'm going to go to all of them. Oh, we're going to go fight for you. The endless fundraising letters from Jeff Helfrich, which I don't know how he gets away with that when they're not supposed to raise funds during session. But it's always the same thing. We're going to fight for you. We're going to fight for you. Oh, but there's nothing we can do. Then why the hell did we send you there? And that's what I was getting at, because we're going to fight for you, send us money, but then there's nothing we can do because, well, measure 113. I think it was measure 113,

right? That was the one that came out there. And so, yeah, it's like if somebody I've never met before behaves really badly, well, that's nothing I can do. But if my children behave really badly, those are the people who I have greater expectations of. If my family is stealing things, I'm going to do something about it. The Republicans are like, you know, why are you complaining to us? Go complain to the Democrats. What is the point? The Democrats are in control. They said we're going to destroy the state and that's what they're doing. Exactly. They're doing what they promised their people they were going to do. The point is, is that we have to hold our people to the account to do what they claim they were going to do, which is protect us and represent us and protect us from these intrusions.

I guess that's the point being here. All right. There's no point trying to take on the enemy when your own people are fragging your tent. And that is what's happening here. All right. Kevin Starr at Oregon Firearms Federation. Before we take off here, you watched the hearing last week. I had some people that were writing me saying, hey, Bill ask kevin about the redefinition of the militia bill what do we know about this uh is that is that going to

move okay well the the sponsor of the bill james manning is the chair of the committee he said the bill is going to move now what i did on the alert about that hearing, which is up on our website, I linked the video from that hearing. And I have said to anybody who watches it, if they have any idea what he's talking about, I want to know. The man cannot construct an English sentence. When questioned by Kim Thatcher about what this means, his answer was utterly incomprehensible. And he has no idea what the bill means. The other Democrats on the committee don't know what it means, but they don't care. They're supporting it. I strongly recommend it's the it's the alert on the website that says imbeciles in charge. There's a link to the video. Go watch it. and you will literally feel your iq plummeting for the few minutes that that

thing is oh no uh i have to ask you who wrote this bill well the bills are written by lawyers and legislative counsel okay so they get a request from a legislator and many cases what they write is just gibberish but but they are given, you know, they don't get to decide what the bills are about. And so I don't know which lawyer wrote it, but I, anybody go look at the bill and tell me what it means. It says, and when you listen to Manning's comments that militias are just a bunch of guys running down the street, creating havoc, the guy is an out racist. There's no question he's a screaming racist. Listen to his comments about, you know, how militias are going after people like him. And, you know, there was a guy

testifying against the bill who is black. And Manning was saying, well, this this, you know, the militias are coming after people who look like us. That's nonsense. It's utter nonsense. Complete, total nonsense, costing you and everyone else thousands and thousands of dollars to turn, take the word militia and replace it with the term National Guard, but not even meaning the existing organization of the National Guard. It's a new praise. The National and Guard are not capitalized. It's just this weird, nobody knows what it means, but he's determined to move it. And by God, if that gets to the floor, the Democrats are going to vote for it. And please watch that hearing. Tell me what the hell he said, because I don't understand it. All right. You know what I'm kind of curious about here, Kevin, philosophically here.

You know that there's so much hissy-fitting going on because between Doge and the era of just big hot checks coming from the federal government going into the state of Oregon, which right now requires the federal government for about a third of its budget right now, all of the money going through. And in spite of how dark it looks in our session right now, could the long-term be looking a little bit better? Because they're just not going to have money. They're not going to have money to be able to screw with people like they've been able to screw with us for a long time. I definitely think so. I think we have a long way to go. But I think that the seismic changes that are taking place on the national level have to have to roll downhill to Oregon.

And at some point, especially with the victories that we've been having in court, they'll still try to do whatever they can. I mean, Rayfield and all Rayfield's made it clear he's going to stand in the way of everything. The Democrats are in complete panic mode. They are going to lose. Rayfield is no match for this new administration. So while I know I'm usually the voice of doom on this show, I do believe that there really is, there's a reason to be hopeful. And what we can't do is relax and just assume that the feds are going to take care of it. We've got to do everything we can to stand in the way of these lunatics while we wait for the cavalry to arrive. Which also means calling for our Republicans to behave like real representatives and truly go to the mat for us and protect us from these intrusions. And that's, you know, kind of the takeaway from this.

That would be my hope. All right. Kevin Starr at Oregon Firearms, Oregon Firearms Federation, OregonFirearms.org. Always a pleasure. Thanks for talking. All right. See you then. Thank you, Bill.

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