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Episode Date: February 28, 2025

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The Bill Myers Show podcast is sponsored by Clouser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clouserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Myers. So glad you are here on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Join the conversation if you'd like to get a good conspiracy started at 770-5633. 770-KMED. My email bill at billmyershow.com. Yeah, I got the little automatic answering machine turned on here.

And that way, when you hear the little, then we'll get you on the air here. Interesting of listening to the press conferences yesterday. And Matt from Grants Pass ended up popping me this. He says, Bill, go take a listen to the Treasury Secretary talking about the gold card program. Five million dollars. You know, you get five million dollars and you get a visa to come to the country. And we're going to use this to pay down the deficit, I guess. And check this out. This is what the guy said. 200,000 of these gold green cards is $1 trillion to pay down our debt.

And that's why the president is doing it, because we are going to balance this budget and we are going to pay off the debt under President Trump. And to qualify, do you have to promise and make commitments to create a certain number of jobs here in the U.S.? No, because not all these people are going to be job builders. There'll be successful people or there'll be people that were hired from colleges, sort of like paying an athlete a bonus. Apple or one of the companies will go out and they'll buy five of them and they're going to get five people. Look, I've had the complaint from a lot of companies where they go out to hire people and they can't hire them out of colleges. And you know what they do? They go back to India

or they go back to the country where they came and they open up a company and they become billionaires. They become and they're employing thousands and there are a lot of examples. There are some really big examples yeah okay so uh very interesting so 200 000 so the treasury secretary is saying 200 000 of these uh gold cards of these of these uh visas these long-term visas for wealthy people would be a trillion dollars okay and he's right you know you just do the map $5 million a pop, and then $200,000. Boom, you got a trillion. You're talking some real money.

We're $36 trillion in national debt right now, so to pay that down, all we need to do is find, let's see, $200,000 times 36, 7.2 million people with $5 million burning a hole in their pocket who want to come to the United States from foreign lands. If we were going to pay it down with that. Now, I know that you'd have to probably do a little bit more financial shenaniging than that. But still, that's pretty interesting. 7.2 million.

Now, 7.2 million people. The problem when you talk numbers on talk radio is that sometimes they're hard to grasp. I have no problem grasping that. A lot of people do, and I'm sorry if I do. But all I would remind you is that the entire population of Oregon is about 4.2 million. So all we need to do is find enough people to repopulate to Oregon's, and then we have more than paid off the government debt who's with me is that does that sound like fun that sounds like fun doesn't it uh that would certainly uh 7.2 million people paying off the debt that'd be great that'd be great i

think that would be fine uh we can talk about that if you want. Now, what do you think about that, though? $5 million for a long-term visa, is that something? Is that the right amount of money? Is it too much? Is it too little? Should we be doing it all? I'd be happy to take your calls on that this morning. 770-5633-770-KMED. Like I said, all we need are two organs filled with 5 million heirs, and then it goes to the U.S. Treasury and pays down the debt. Cool. That would be great. Now then, some other news this morning. State Department identifying $60 billion in foreign aid cuts,

mostly stemming from USAID. Oh boy, this snake pit. This is in the free beacon this morning, by the way. And they completed the review, finding 15,000 grants worth $60 billion for elimination. And the review pertained to foreign aid that flowed from both the State Department and the U.S. Agency for International Development. More than 9,100 grants worth $15.9 billion. The lion's share come from the USAID side, where Trump administration officials moved to slash about 6,000 of these grants. So they're slashing and burning on this kind of stuff. There's also testimony given that a USAID grant gave $122 million to charities with terrorism ties, including an evangelical Christian group that facilitated a $125,000 subgrant to a Sudanese terrorist organization linked to al-Qaeda.

Very interesting. So they're still looking, they're still looking, and the cockroaches are still scattering. We even get some of that in our local news here, too. Let me see. I think I... Oh, yeah, here it is. This one on KOVI. Mass firings at Fish and Wildlife Service threaten endangered species.

A wave of mass firings and a high... This is by Ethan Quinn, by the way. A wave of mass firings and a hiring freeze implemented by the Department of Governmental Efficiency at Fish and Wildlife Services has environmentalists worried about the fate of endangered species in southern Oregon.

Yes, the moment you fire fish and wildlife people, and by the way, I'm not advocating that we fire fish and wildlife services, but I love the logic that the moment that a federal employee gets dismissed, all of a sudden the salmon aren't able to swim up the river, or else they're going to be instantly killed by pollution from some mill which is on the river or else they're going to be you know instantly killed by pollution from uh some some mill which is on the river instantly as soon as fish and wildlife are done but yeah you know this is the kind of hissy fitting which is uh is going on actually another story from kobi5 i thought was pretty interesting new statewide literacy framework for middle and

high schoolers max osborne does this one oregon department of education my favorite state program by the way released a set of guidance and best practices for teachers to help them implement better literacy instructions for students it's called the adolescent literacy framework it aims to create confident and competent readers and writers. It builds on a similar framework released by the ODE for elementary school students. The ODE said that literacy is a key for students learning and understanding, which is why Oregon is like at number 50 right now. But the department's director of literacy, Angelica Cruz,

said we spend those early years learning to read, and then we talk about those older years. It's really when you're reading to learn. And so it's important for students to have that strong foundation. So the reading problem has been fixed. You know how most of us could fix the reading problem in government schools is just, you know, go back to the 1980s and get one of those hooked-on phonics things. Is hooked-on phonics still around? How about just getting a bunch of hooked-on phonics and, what is it, $200, $300 a student?

You do that in first grade. Literacy problem solved. But that doesn't put a lot of unionized people to work for decades with PERS. Now, I might be a little bit cynical when I say that, but I'm pretty sure that most of the problem with literacy tends to be that Oregon went down the whole language or the whole word. They didn't

teach you to sound out words. It was all about teaching you to look at the word and you had to know the word, which, of course, is not the way anybody learns to truly sound out and read English. We can't do phonics. Phonics, that's bad.

But of course, that's how I learned how to read on my mother's lap when I was four years old. See the C-H? It's cha. It's sometimes a sha in this and that. Here's S-H. Here's how the T-I works, Billy, all that kind of stuff. It wasn't about learning how to just see individual words. It was about, you know, learning the building blocks. But that has not been Oregon's official policy. But I'm sure that the ODE's new statewide literacy framework will go to phonics and they'll take care of all that.

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The golden card visa, the golden ticket, $5 million to get into the United States if you have $5 million to give to the Treasury. Do you agree with this? Is it about the right charge? Is it too much? Is it too little? Gosh, if you had five million one out of ten i don't know getting into the country that sounds a little cheap to me they're well of course i don't know there are other countries around the world that also kind of sell their citizenship or sell access uh for people who uh invest a certain amount but what is different about this one this doesn't appear to be something which is even guaranteed to build jobs or anything.

It's just people bringing money into it, and the money goes to the Treasury. So the Treasury ends up paying down the debt. I like that part about it. Of course, to pay off the debt, that would be, what, $7.2 million. You would need $7.2 million at $5 million a pop. And I'm sure that all of the 7.2 million with $5 million, most of them will be very, very good people. And we won't have any issues with cartels or Chinese agents and anything like that coming in. Right?

It's going to be just perfectly okay. Hey, you know, it would be kind of like importing a brand-new oligarchy. What do you think about that? We'll have a bunch of brand-new neighbors. They'll be pretty wealthy if they can afford to blow $5 million to get here. But I don't know. We've had ways of doing this for a long, long time. There was another visa that was about a million dollars worth of investment in the United States,

and you could come here and do that. Lars was talking about that yesterday. It's very true. Five million, though, it goes directly to the Treasury and pays down the debt. That's interesting. What do you think? We could talk about that. Anything else on your mind, too?

7705633. Let me go to Conspiracy Theory Thursday caller number one. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Good morning. This is Lauren Ottenagle Point. Lauren, what do you think? Five million dollars to come to the United States and get your green card? What do you say? I don't go along with that one. You don't? Why? No. Partly because you've got too many millionaires running around, I think. But at the same time, that's not what I called.

Okay. All right. I'll vote no on that one. All right. So you vote no on the golden card, on the golden ticket. Okay. Yeah. All right.

Yeah. Even though it's from my man, Mr. Trump, that's okay. Okay. But here's the deal. I work in the public schools out here in Eagle Point, and we teach phonics. They're teaching phonics now? Good. Yeah, first grade.

I work with kindergarten and first graders. Part-time, I'm a substitute. All right. Now, I just want to make sure, though, that changed not too long ago, right? Because I know that for the longest time, whole language was the way that they taught. And that may be the general rule, and people coming out of college, that's what they're trained to. But I've been working out here for eight years, and to be honest with you, I don't remember

whether or not it was one way or the other. But I know that now, because I have to sit down with kids and do them phonics in groups of four, the teacher sends them out to the quad to me, and I work. And so we're teaching that way. But I think a big part of it, big part of it, Bill, is the home. Yeah. The parents are not taking the time, if they're there. Well, if the parents are readers, the children will likely be readers. If the parents themselves are not reading, you're probably not going to be reading to the kids.

Fair enough? That's exactly right. And I've seen that over and over, and, you know, I'm an old guy, and so at the same time, I just want to get that out. I don't know about other districts. I don't know about the state of Oregon or whatever. All I know is what I see in several schools. Hey, I just wanted to let you know, though, that the Oregon Department of Education is on it, and they have a new literacy framework. But, of course, these are the same people that couldn't teach the kids to read before. that the Oregon Department of Education is on it, and they have a new literacy framework.

But, of course, these are the same people that couldn't teach the kids to read before. I'm just hoping that it actually works. That's all I'm saying. Good luck. Yeah. Good luck on that one. All right. Thanks, Lauren.

Let me go to next Conspiracy Theory Thursday call. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Hello. Hey, Bill. Hey. Hi. Steve in Sunny Valley. Hi, who's this? Hello? Hey, Bill. Hey, hi. Steve in Sunny Valley.

Well, we just got 15 to 20 million people who didn't give us $5 million. True. And on the public dole. Right. So, you know, it can't be as bad as that. That's just very true. You know, at least you can figure that if you're coming in with $5 million, you're not going to be a problem, right? Right. You would hope.

And not only that, they have money to spend in our stores, right? Keep the economy rolling. Yeah, okay. So you're okay then? Oh, yeah. You're okay with that? I mean, we got $15 to $20 million on the public goal, on welfare, on food stamps, on everything else. At least these people won't be that.

Yeah, what could go wrong with this, right? It couldn't be any worse than importing a bunch of poor people, right? Right, exactly. All right. Steve, thanks for... Now, do you think that $5 million is about right? Too much money? Too little?

What do you think? In these days of inflation, I don't know, $5 million in a... I don't know, might buy a couple cups of coffee. Okay, fair enough. Hey, Steve, thanks for the opinion, okay buy a couple cups of coffee. Okay, fair enough. Hey, Steve, thanks for the opinion, okay? All right. All right, so he's right about that. They won't be on the dole.

But like I said, we could import a brand-new oligarchy class. Let me go to Crazy Gene. Hello, Gene. How are you? Oh, pretty good. How are you doing this morning? Doing fine. What are you thinking? Well, I'm thinking that Adam had another wife that nobody had heard about, and her name was Lilith.

Oh, Lilith. Okay. What, the one that was married to a Frasier or something different? She might have been. But, yeah, she was made of the same things that Adam was made of. So she argued with Adam. she was equal to Adam. And so there's a big fight ensued, but that... And what does this have to do with our conversation this morning, CJ?

This is something that just mixed it up. Oh, okay. Well, thanks for mixing it up. What do you think about $5 million to get a green card? Oh, well, whatever your heart desires. I mean, there's always some way when you're faking everything that you can come up with a new fake. All right. Appreciate the call. 7705633.

The golden ticket. I've got the golden ticket. $5 million. And it would only take $7.2 million of them, and then the debt is poof. Hi, who's this? Good morning. Welcome. This is minor Dave.

I got cut off. Oh. But anyways, I got jury duty on Monday. Yeah. After the first day, if you get selected for a trial, you're going to get $100 for the day. It's a new pop-up. $100 a day for jury duty. Is that something that changed in California, huh?

Well, yeah, this is a pilot project. You know, jury duty fees have always been taxable, but they were only $15. So nobody paid. The government didn't pay attention to it. Okay. So, well, now with $100, they're going to make some money in taxes or taxation, potentially. Federally and state. So, go figure.

All right. Now, what is your point going on here? Now, you got your car working and everything else. Are you going to be actually able to make it it well well i got my car unstuck uh tomorrow i get uh my union pension so i've got a hoodwink a ride into uh hornbrook to get gas come back put gas in it and then get to truck jump something tells me that uh jury duty for for Minor Dave is going to be a money-losing proposition. Would that be fair? Well, not really, because you have a certain level of income to file. I'm not required to file, so it wouldn't hurt me.

It would hurt somebody that's making a different income that is taxable besides Social Security. By the way, though, the one thing, if you want to stay on the jury, though, don't say that you are willing to go against the judge, okay? No, no. Okay. I won't say that. Even though you should be willing to go against the judge. You know, all this nonsense about I'm the judge and I will tell you what the law is

and you will rule on this if this is no your vote on the jury is your vote on the jury okay uh that's the way i look at it uh except that uh uh when they uh when a defense person asked me if there's not enough evidence how would i uh how would i go well I say it depends on the evidence. I'm here to judge. Okay, now remember, if you're going to get through on the jury, you can't look like you're thinking too much on that for the defense attorney, okay?

Right. All right, good. I'm just having fun with you, Dave. You know that. I was on the jury. I'm actually a fan of the jury system. I really am. Let me go to line three on Conspir. I know. And actually, I'm actually a fan of the jury system. I really am. Let me go to line three on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Morning. Good morning. This is Vicki from the Applegate. Vicki, what's your Conspiracy Theory Thursday call? Go ahead.

I think the quality of people that pay the $5 million to come in is a lot better than what's been hopping over the fence and to the river. Arguably, that would seem to make a lot of sense, though. Yeah, sure. You know what? I think, honestly, they should charge at least a million, if not more, to Pelosi, Schumer, Nadler, Fauci. Okay, and what would the rationale be for charging them a million for what i think they're the ones who created this immigration mess and they should have to pay well i think instead of having them pay money because pelosi for pelosi paying a million dollars you look at

paul pelosi's uh investment fund you know that you know that he's been able to do just because he's so smart. It had nothing to do with inside trading of what Congress does. Right. We've got to make sure we understand this. No, just understand. Understand. Money doesn't mean anything. It would be a much better punishment to force Nancy and Paul to house and clothe and feed them in their home, okay?

Yeah, well, give up your ice cream and your wine, and she'd have plenty of money. Yeah, if Granny Winebox actually had to live with and fix what she had helped to bring to the country, that would be much better punishment in my view, okay? All right. Thank you very much, Vicki. There we go. Conspiracy Theory Thursday calls. We'll continue that here in just a little bit.

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And you're all over X under that pretty much. Isn't that right, Steve? Welcome back. That's it. I'm at Junkscience on X. Yep. I can barely hear you. Oh, you can barely hear me?

Okay. Let me try this. Let me try this right now. Okay. I will re... Is that any better? Can you hear me now? That's better.

Right there. Okay. Go. All right. Good. Now we got things rolling here. So, Steve, I want to talk about something which is going on that the EPA administrator, Lee Zeldin, had talked about the other day. And he's recommending that President Trump just kill the – and something I'm not even really familiar with.

It is the 2009 endangerment finding. And this apparently is the linchpin that has us all just sucked into the climate scam, hoax, whatever you want to call it, you know, the climate change agreements, and it's a real intrusion on us. What say you? What's going on with this, huh? Well, so there is this infamous 2007 Supreme Court decision, Massachusetts versus EPA, where a leftist court said that EPA could regulate greenhouse gas emissions. So the Bush administration decided not to. When Obama came in in 2009, of course, it's the first thing they wanted

to do. And so by the end of 2009, they had promulgated this rule called the Endangerment Finding. And the Endangerment Finding says that emissions of greenhouse gases like carbon dioxide and methane are harming public health and welfare. And this rule has become the sort of scientific, factual underpinning for all federal government activities on climate. Is this a rule that came from actual scientific research, or was this kind of like safe and effective politicized science? Where did it actually come from, I guess? Yeah, so this has always been very controversial. And, you know, EPA never conducted its own research for this. EPA just basically

adopted UN quote-unquote science on climate, which, of course, is extremely controversial. Okay. All right. And so they adopted it. And so all the war on coal rules, just all the EV, all the Inflation Reduction Act, all that kind of stuff depends on this endangerment finding. You know, we wanted President Trump to reverse the endangerment finding when he was in Trump 1.0. But, you know, there was a lot of chaos in that administration. He couldn't get it done.

You know, Republicans are afraid of this kind of stuff. But this time, the news is now that the Trump administration is going to try to reverse the endangerment finding and they're going to have to go through a rule-making process. And so this is fantastic because this will basically eliminate federal government participation in the climate hoax. And President Trump, not only did he campaign on climate being a hoax, but he also campaigned against the Green News scam, you know,

all the IRA, Inflation Reduction Act spending. And of course, you know, that law was passed through budget reconciliation during the Biden years. So it was not subject to filibuster, Republicans, you know, could repeal it without going through, you know, worry about filibusters through the same budget reconciliation process. But a lot of that money has been used to purchase red state politicians. So, you know, I don't know that Congress is going to repeal that. But if President Trump reverses this endangerment finding, then there's no factual underpinning for all the Inflation Reduction Act spending. Are you following me?

Yeah. And so does that mean that there can be a clawback or a stoppage of additional money going into those projects? Yes, I think President Trump will then be on firm footing to say, well, Congress, you know, they passed this law when the endangerment finding was in effect, but now that it's no longer in effect, as a matter of fact, we find that there's no evidence that emissions are harming public health, then there's no reason to spend the money. You know, there are just all sorts of lawsuits and or findings that I get from the Environmental Protection Agency and also the Oregon Department of Environmental Quality. And everything, well, as an example, they find some guy that has a trucking company and they end up finding out that he ended up, you know, disabling something on the diesel truck,

you know, in order to, you know, get more horsepower out of the truck or something like that. And they fined the guy $100,000 or $200,000, just insane amounts of money, Steve, when I see this come through. And the part that I've never seen in any of these claims, okay, this is the fine $100,000, and yet there's never any proof that harm was done. Yeah. And... Well... But you could almost say that about almost the entire enforcement of the climate and

or pollution world, isn't it? Isn't that really... Yeah. These are meant to be strict liability crimes, essentially, where you violate the rule. You're going to do the full time, pay the full fine, and you have basically little opportunity to appeal. in the Supreme Court about regulatory agencies being able to fine people without them having the right of judicial appeal. So even that's going to be changing, because you're right. I mean, this is crazy where you just, you technically violate the rule, but there's no actual harm, and you get slammed with this $100,000 fee.

I mean, that's obviously insane. And sometimes that's small. There have been other ones that I've seen come down from the EPA. And the EPA, for the last few years, has been very proud. I get all the news releases from them. And it's not that I want the environment in danger. I don't want that. None of us do.

But I will say something like there would be like a vegetable processing plant up in northern Oregon, and they're using those commercial-type freezers with the ammonia in it, using ammonia as the refrigerant instead, you know, the really big ones. And they say, you know, there was no leakage and nothing happened, but, you know, they didn't have a proper safety program in place in case. And so we're fining them a quarter of a million dollars, you know, those kind of things. And they're proud of it, the EPA. And I'm thinking to myself, nobody was hurt.

You would have thought that, okay, just get them compliant if this is really what you're concerned about, you know, the safety aspects of it. But everything is just punitive, punitive, punitive. And is there a possibility that we're going to see some more reasonableness about what happens in these regulatory agencies, you think? Well, on a federal level, there may be no federal regulatory agencies. I mean, yesterday, President Trump said that he was going to cut back EPA staff by 65%, which I think is a good start. Oh. All right.

Most environmental protection is done in the states. So, you know, if Oregonians want to have an out-of-control Department of Environmental Protection, well, you know, I guess that's your choice. Of course, the challenge, though, is that Oregon depends on federal government for about a third of its budget, and it looks like that gravy train is coming to an end at some point. Yeah, so that's one of the things that needs to be worked out. EPA is a pass-through for a lot of money, and a lot of these crazy state programs are driven by EPA funding. So if the EPA funding goes away, you know, the state regulators are going to have to be more realistic about all this kind of stuff. Look, you know, the whole environmental protection racket has gotten

way out of control. You know, it was one thing when we were clearing the air and making sure the rivers don't catch on fire in 1970. Well, 95% of the heavy lifting has already been done, and it just seems like there's almost like an incredibly expensive focus on the remaining 5% of issues that we're dealing with. I would say that all the heavy lifting has been done. And, I mean, there's always going to be environmental accidents, and so we need to be able to respond to spills and other sorts of accidents. But, you know, the air is clean and safe. The water is as clean and safe as it's going to be for, you know, a country with 350 million people. And, you know, it's, you know, and the environment was never really, even though the rivers caught on fire and the

air wasn't as clean, it was never really a threat to public health. It was more of an aesthetic problem. We cleaned that up. And we cleaned it up long ago. By 1990, when I started working on environmental issues, the air was clean and the water was, you know, as good as it's going to get. Yeah. Now, how old are you, Steve? I don't mean to be rude to ask you. 25. Well, I started working on this in 1990.

Okay, 1990. All right. Well, I graduated in 79 from high school. Well, I graduated in 77. Okay. So, honestly, I think when I look back to the 1970s, and I grew up in the Rust Belt in Pittsburgh. And I remember the times that the coke plants for U.S. Steel, where my grandfather worked for years. I remember the paint peeling off the cars because of the emissions.

That stuff's gone now. We don't have that kind of stuff going on. Right. And yet, I swear that the EPA is acting as if that is where we still are. Well, yeah. And this is why they switched over to CO2 as pollution, I guess, right? Well, right. I mean, you know, although the air is as clean as pre-industrial air, it's actually more dangerous than ever before per EPA, right?

Yeah. The air is so clean that where does EPA spend its entire focus? On eliminating invisible, you know, colorless, odorless emissions of plant food. I mean, this is insanity. Yeah, it is. And it's something which has been, it's almost as if it was just designed to de-industrialize us. And there are people that have wanted to do that. That has been part of their, you know, their life's goal to have us essentially living in huts again. Well, I guess they would be living in a nice house, but we would be living in huts. So back to the endangerment finding again. So it's a rule change, and how complex is that? How long does it take to do that kind of stuff? What does it look like here as far as if the Trump administration is going to flip this around and get us out of the climate scam? Well, so the Obama administration was able to promulgate that endangerment finding rule in about 10 months.

Now, traditionally, Republicans are worse at government than Democrats, so it might take longer. It goes up to me, look, this is really all the administrator has to do is, after, you know, after seeking public comment through a rulemaking, just make the determination on his own. So this is a Lee Zeldin decision then, right? Yes. Okay. And so he just needs to decide that, you know, emissions don't pose a threat to public health and the thing is gone. And, you know, it's in his judgment. So, you know, the legal standard for that is arbitrary and capricious, which he should easily be able to make. So I think this thing is going to be gone.

Of course, there's going to be litigation about this, and the Greens are going to melt down. All heads will explode. You know that. There's just absolutely no doubt. Okay? Right. Right. Right. So, you know, it's a long way and temporary, but, you know, we're going to get there because this is a priority of the administration.

I'm glad to hear that. What do we do about Montana, though? And I think you know what I'm speaking of, the lawsuits that seem to have been poorly defended or poorly worded, you know, the climate change kids lawsuit that they ended up losing. Because, you know, you were telling me, though, about how one of the biggest problems with the Green New Deal and the green scams that have been going on is that even red states have had politicians bought off through the various projects. And I just can't help but wonder if Montana is one of them.

Well, Montana's got a lot of blue in it. You know, it's sort of like, and blue in important places, sort of like Texas. You know, the overall red state, but it's got some blue. And, you know, the Greens know how to work the blue part of the state. So, you know, you're going to have these lawsuits. I think ultimately all these lawsuits are going to fail because climate is a political decision, not a judicial decision. And the notion that people have a constitutional right to a certain weather is insane. The notion that, say, big oil is responsible for bad weather in New York is insane.

Yeah. You know, so this litigation is going to go on because it's all the Greens have. But eventually, when it gets to the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will say, well, this is really a political decision for Congress to make. And we're just not, you know, and unfortunately, you know, these decisions have, these cases have already reached the Supreme Court in various ways. And because conservatives don't just like to end litigation, they try to make the most narrow decision they can and let things work their way through the courts. We're going to be tortured by these lawsuits, and companies will be tortured, and communities will be tortured by these lawsuits for years to come.

It would be easier if the Supreme Court was to say, this is a political issue. These lawsuits can't be maintained. But they're not going to do that until, I don't know. I know. They're ready to do it. Yeah, well, I'm looking forward to seeing some relief here because like i say i continue to get news release after news release and the epa seems to be proud of pounding people with fines but whether or not the environment has actually been protected or or saved is somewhat in question in my view and so

a better more reasonable way hey if we have rules that are good i'm happy to have them enforced but you know just to uh pound everybody over the head with with fines i don't think is the way to go about it either you know we need to have sensible regulation no one's against regulation but we you know because we want to have clean air clean water i can't have to say this but we want to have sensible regulation and um you know we have just let these bureaucrats and the scientists they fund run all over us. And so EPA has, instead of protecting the environment, they're really an industrial control agency. And that's a perfect way of describing it. I think that is the way to

wrap this talk, okay? An industrial control agency. And that was not what it was about, what it was designed to be, okay? Hey, I really appreciate this. Steve Malloy once again, and he's senior fellow at the Energy and Environment Legal Institute, former Trump EPA transition team member, and of course, founder of Junk Science, junkscience.com. You can follow him on X at Junk Science. Steve, thanks for the explanation of this. We're going to watch this story. Thanks for bringing it, okay? Bye. Bye. It is 653 at KMED, 99.3 KBXG. Ready to upgrade your roof to a durable, sleek metal option? Look no further than Stephen Westfall Roofing, Inc. With our state-of-the-art snap lock machines, we bring precision and efficiency right to your doorstep.

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Country Cares for Kid Radio Thought. I'll tell you more here in just a few, okay? 656, let me go to Ron in Grants Pass. Ron, you wanted to talk about that golden ticket. The golden ticket, or the golden card is actually what they're calling it, the gold card for $5 million, and you get to come to the United States of America and do your thing. What do you think?

Yeah, I think it's like collect $200 and go back to go. But I disagree with that. I don't think you should cheapen the getting into the United States by visa. They should go back through the immigration process, make sure that they become citizens through the normal channels. And then they ought to turn around and take maybe 1% of whatever they're going to donate, maybe the U.S. government does, and put that towards repatriation of invaders who have come in the last four years. Okay. You know, that's an interesting wrinkle there.

Take the percentage of the fees paid and use it to remove those that shouldn't be here. Interesting. Yes. And one last thing. If we have a bunch of pharmaceutical guys who are putting out all kinds of vaccines, which are not proven, why can't they also be tasked with putting together 1% or 2% of their budgets to go towards U.S. medical prescription drugs development and or building in the United States so that we get away from China and other countries for that resource.

Well, I know that the Trump administration is working, well, claims to be working really hard on getting, especially when it comes to generic drugs, repatriated back in here. I know the challenge has been that China and India have been the low-cost leaders when it comes to producing a lot of this, which then, of course, keeps us at risk for some of our most basic drugs out there having to depend on someone who may not necessarily have our best interest in mind. I think they are working on something like that. I don't know if you're going to get these pharmaceutical industry itself to do that unless there's a financial incentive, which I'm

sure is why President Trump's talking about tariffs and such. I think that's part of it. Maybe they give them a tax break or something for the first five years after they develop some actually needed prescription drug. Okay. I'll have to consider that. I appreciate the call there. Thank you very much, Ron. 7705633. It's 659. We go to Tom. Tom's in talent. Hello, Tom. What are you thinking on Conspiracy Theory Thursday? It's on your mind. Well, it's all this

climate crisis nonsense, and that was a good talk there. You know, it's primarily a scientific question. Do we have a climate crisis? And I just wonder with Trump in office and so forth, if there between, say, Gregory Wrightstone of the CO2 Coalition and Alan Jernay, and just let them go back and forth so people can hear both sides. Because, you know, they'll come out, you know, if they're by themselves, they'll just say, well, here's the evidence that we have a climate crisis. And you go to CO2 and they'll say it's nonsense.

I would like to hear the two of them go back and forth and try to prove their points. And I think with that clarity that people would be able to really hear what's going on. Because if we don't stop the climate crisis nonsense, we have the Pam Marshes, the Jeff. Well, it drives everything about state policy right everything about state policy that's harmful to us or nonsensical usually is tied to that that main issue everything about a climate crisis we have to have you eating bugs we have to have you in a climate friendly equitable community we can't have you in a climate-friendly, equitable community. We can't have you in a vehicle. We can't have you living out on the rural lands because the climate crisis burns the forests, right? All that kind of stuff, Tom.

It's all connected. Yeah, they're using climate crisis basically to destroy Oregon. And Pam Marsh said when she ran for office that climate crisis was her main motivation. So we have these people up there in the legislature that I don't know what they have for brains, but they don't seem to be able to take an issue and put it on the table, look at it from all perspectives, and make a rational, common-sense decision. And to me, the whole idea, let's just say that carbon dioxide, which, of course, has been a much higher, it's been way higher than the 400 or so parts per million. Yes.

It has been way higher than that. And yet, and sometimes the Earth's temperature was higher in those days, like back in when, because we were kind of, not tropical, I guess it would be kind of tropical, but green and moist. And, you know, we had lots of, you know, the global temperature might have been a little bit warmer and more rain and all these other sort of things. And if anything, life tends to be easier for most of life on the planet when it's a little bit warmer. But, you know, the idea that there is one temperature that is just perfect for the Earth and we have to maintain this through government fiat, it's just nonsense. You know, if you want to drive, you know, the climate crisis folks nuts, just ask them, why is Greenland called Greenland? You know, it's all covered with ice now, and supposedly we have so much carbon dioxide out there, it's toasting the planet.

So just why is Greenland green? Why do we have ice ages before? Why is there a 500-year lag between CO2 in the air and the global warming? They can't answer these basic questions. According to Alan Jernay, I'm an idiot. He won't even, you know, you can't even talk with them. But I was just wondering if you could somehow organize a debate between those two. You know, that could be interesting to listen to Gregory Wrightstone and Alan take it on.

I will take that under consideration. Okay. Okay. All right. Okay, that's my conspiracy. All right. It would be fun. It would be fun radio.

I think it could be fun. Thank you. Let me grab one more here before news. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey, Bill. Hi, who's this? This is Will Salmon.

Oh, hi, Steve. How are you this morning? I'm wonderful. That was a great interview. interview and yeah you know i'd like to see the same um um deal worked out for the federal energy regulatory commission because the climate stuff is all being pushed to us by the the FERC and that's what's going on with our electrical stuff with solar and wind and all that, what's run the price of electricity up so much. And hasn't it been FERC regulations that has essentially made sure that you're going to

close the coal plant, even if you were to make it as clean as you could? It is all downhill from that finding that gives FERC the footing to be able to do all this stuff. And by the way, if you're just joining me, not everybody may have heard that talk with Steve Malloy. And so I just want to make sure it has to do with the Trump administration is looking to strike down a landmark 2009 endangerment finding, which has tended to be the linchpin that tied practically everything the federal government was doing when it came to energy and environment into the climate hoax. That's what this is all about.

I want to make sure people understand that. And the federal energy regulation is in it with both feet clear up to their eyeballs. Now, your challenge, though, is that you know darn well that probably a good portion of that administrative state there, everybody that's in FERC, everyone that's in EPA, they're all true believers. You have to figure they're part of it. They're all East Coast lawyers, and, you know, they're – well, as a lawyer, you make money on all of this turmoil. And so the more turmoil they can stir up, the more money the lawyers make. And, you know, that's the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission. I get updates from them because I signed up for it.

And I hate to, I don't even like to look at them, but it's kind of good to know what direction they're going. Well, I'm going to have to sign up for the FERC ones, too, because I already get the EPA. And do you sign up for the EPA alerts? Do you get those? Yeah, I'm going to have to sign up for the FERC once, too, because I already get the EPA. And do you sign up for the EPA alerts? Do you get those? Yeah, I do. Yeah.

And have you noticed how everything seems to be about we're protecting the environment by almost by the amount of fines that we're beating people over the head with? It seems that way. Yeah. Well, at FERC, they're talking about running all these power lines all over the country because the power, the wind and solar is generated, you know, on the east side of the Rockies. And to get the power to the west coast is pretty difficult. And they're the same people that are making a cut down on the use of natural gas. And so, you know, it just keeps spiraling, and the FERC is the center of the controversy. I'm hoping, and we've talked about this before.

I don't know if you know much about this. We're going to have to find out, how do we get rid of this whole concept of sue and settle? And this is where, you know, you have people, you know, the gang greens and the people that want a certain policy. And they'll sue the EPA or they'll sue FERC or they'll sue. And the thing is, is that the people within the agencies themselves actually agree with the people suing them. And so, OK, yeah, we're going to pretend to fight, but we're really going to collapse and just settle with you and then do what you want to do. I think the basis for that is the Equal Access to Justice Law of 1995. Okay.

So that needs to be looked at then. That needs to be taken out. It really does, because the lawyers get paid if they can win anything in a lawsuit. And so they can just throw spaghetti at the wall, and if one piece of it sticks, then they get paid. And that's all that matters. Steve, thanks for the call. Appreciate that. This is what we'd like to talk about on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. It doesn't have to be about that.

It could be about anything else on your mind. After news, happy to have more of your calls. 770-5633. This is the Bill Myers Show on KMED, KMED, HD1, Eagle Point, Medford, KBXG, Grants Pass. Should you trust your drinking water on a do-it-yourself water test? I don't think so.