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Episode Date: March 6, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. Good morning. This is News Talk 1063, KMED. And you're waking up with the Bill Myers Show. I read a little long with Steve Bonta, but I always enjoyed talking to him, economic guy at New American, new American.com.
Starting point is 00:00:27 And interesting things going on. Don, you wanted to comment on Comrade Fanta. In my mistake, I'm a student of Ravi Batra, the Indian economist, a child of the Austrian school. And what happens is when you get intellectuals like our guest this morning, a comrade, if you would, they don't stick to some foundations to educate people first. Inflation was a big center topic. inflation caused by too many dollars chasing too few goods. Government tries to pay off old debt with new cheap dollars.
Starting point is 00:01:04 That's called inflation also. So we don't want to play that game. Trump is the master dealer in this card game beyond what the intellectuals thought, because he's nuts and bolts. And he doesn't have to make up anything. He knows what works in a free market. I believe that's what he's doing. doing and I'm locked, I'm in lockstep with his world order right now.
Starting point is 00:01:33 So, the challenge that is to, is to destined, predestine your grandchildren. Okay, one more time. Say that last part, your phone kind of beeped at me once, like you hit one of the buttons. Give me that last statement here about your, your grandchildren in a slavery. Go ahead, please. All right. To challenge, he's laying down some hard rules that government needs to stay with, and it's the path to true liberation for the oppressed masses here and in Persia. Iran, a country which is penalty. Okay, I mean, that's really bad.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Don't give me wrong. You know, but what does that have to do with our freedom? Everything, because if you want to go back to a blinders like Biden, who's son, I see nothing like Colonel Klink, and address real social issues instead of just throwing money. at problems. Obama and Biden both shipping 747 loads of cash to Tehran. That's what we're getting thrown at us now. That's why we couldn't wait six months, four months to do what's happening. All right. I appreciate the call. Thank you for that. That's why we have open phones on conspiracy theory Thursdays. Wild Sam and Steve is here. Steve, take it away.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah, on this, kids walking out of school. I think the punishment should be that they have to write two essays. Oh, by the way, for folks who don't know, I just wanted to remind you, this is the Oakdale, what was it, which middle school was it? Oakdale. Oakdale Middle School. Oakdale Middle School ended up walking out the other day. They're getting one day suspension each, 80 of them. Okay. Also, as a punishment, they should have to write two essays, one on each side of what they did. Oh, okay. You know, they should be able to articulate. These are middle schoolers, and, you know, they should have some writing skills. So they should be able to articulate their position, and they should understand the opposite position.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And it's a balancing act. And so... So you're saying if they're going to walk out and violate the school rules of attendance, then, okay, part of your punishment is to explain why you did it and express your understanding of it and make sure you do. Yeah. Absolutely, because, you know, if you can't do that, then it's an unexcused absence. I would be curious if there are a lot of students that would be cognizant of, you know, this whole purpose of not having illegal immigrants is that you don't want necessarily to be replaced. This is demographic replacement that I think has been going on large scale for several decades here.
Starting point is 00:04:25 I don't disagree with that, but, you know, it's down to individual. individual responsibility, and I'm not sure that the education system could handle that because, you know, they're pushing kids to walk out as a statement. The teachers agree with that, so I don't know that it would actually work, but it would be great for the kids to have to write down, you know, explain the reasoning for why they would walk out. To truly explain the reason for walking out rather than emoting, well, I'm here to support illegal aliens. That kind of thing. Absolutely. All right. Appreciate the call.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Thanks for that. 770KMED. It's open phones on Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Attention, veterinarians. Do you remember why you became a veterinarian? When you realize pets aren't just animals. Now more with Bill Meyer. I always enjoy talking with you, even more so, on Conspiracy Theory Thursday.
Starting point is 00:05:21 770KMED, you've had a few days to digest of what is going on here. Are you overall feeling kind of all right with, the Iran war and where it has been going and how it is looking and maybe what the longer-term effects might be, or you're kind of just waiting to find out, or are you concerned? That's one of the questions that I was posing a bit earlier this morning. I'm kind of in the holding back and waiting, but I am concerned about the ultimate financial effect on us because it's going to be expensive. But I agree with Steve Manta, but he was talking about that, a couple trillion dollars.
Starting point is 00:05:56 and we didn't really have a couple trillion dollars to spend right now. We didn't really. That's just my opinion. But, you know, maybe I can't add and subtract correctly, and maybe you can add and subtract better. But let me know, 7705-633-770 KMED. Another topic I had had to do with the Oakdale Middle School kids. 80 of them walked out or so the other day.
Starting point is 00:06:17 And they were out protesting ICE enforcement. In other words, trying to say that the federal government doesn't have the right to enforce immigration law. All right. So that's kind of what they're coming back with. And the district has punished the kids with one day. One day suspension. Is that enough?
Starting point is 00:06:36 Just about right? Or too little? What do you think? Janet's here. Janet, you're saying that we're kind of missing something overall in the arguments. And so set us straight. Go ahead. Well, at West Networkville out there, I think the population, the demographic, is going to be like three-quarters
Starting point is 00:06:55 Hispanic. you know, immigrant. So the parents most likely, you know, put the kids up to this. You said they were there to pick up the kids or whatever. Yeah. So, you know, that's what it sounds like. All right. So you're thinking it was just natural because the neighborhood, higher Hispanic.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So is the assumption, though, that Hispanics would be, you know, most legal has. It could be quite illegal out there, too, you know. Okay. So you're thinking that there already is a significant. an illegal alien population in the district is what you're saying. That's why there's the sympathy. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:33 All right. It all factors in, yeah. Okay. All right. Well, that could be. You know, the funny thing is, is that legal immigrants for the most part are not real happy. You know, the ones that actually went through all the hoops and jumped in, got their
Starting point is 00:07:47 green card or whatever the case might be, they don't tend to like the illegal immigrants. So maybe you're right. Maybe that's a lot of the mothers, they're in their 30s to 40s and their, liberal type, you know, who knows. Good point. Good point. Thank you, Jan. I'd appreciate the call.
Starting point is 00:08:02 770 KMED. It's an open phones on conspiracy theory Thursday. Hi, good morning. And who are you? And what are you thinking about? Good morning, Bill. Hi, Lucretia. It's on your mind.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Hi. Oh, well, just, you know, yesterday I talked about the, the documented the DC-G-C report, which is the highest-level British and naval intelligence, and how they said that, you know, this whole situation where the Mexicans was going to happen. One other thing they said is that we would be so exhausted financially, we could no longer police the world, much less America. So when the Mexicans rise up, don't expect your military to help you.
Starting point is 00:08:43 That's an interesting opinion of them. Now, most people will listen to D.C. D.C. and have no idea what the heck you're talking about, though. Oh, I know. I think I talked about in 2006 before it even happened. It said it was going to be from 2007 to 2007, yeah, 2006 to 2037. Well, to your point, though. To your point, though, I would just mention here, Lucretia, that I talked with Peter Schweitzer yesterday. Peter Schweitzer wrote a book on what he talks about is that this essentially the illegal immigrant.
Starting point is 00:09:20 invasion of the country is actually a soft coup being manipulated to bring the system down. Conspiracy, right? Yeah, and that it really is being, and by the way, he wasn't just saying going to the DC-D-C report. He wasn't going down your rabbit hole. He's just saying, I'm just listening to what the illegal immigrants are saying themselves. And they're talking about reconquista. These are our lands. These are stolen lands, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:09:46 And maybe you're right. And maybe you're right at this point that, You know, you have enough wars of choice against places like Iran, and then maybe they will take back the southern parts of the United States without a shot. What do you think? But I think they're being directed by the people that wrote that report, because they also talk about the change of weather and all these environmental catastrophes, which Gordon McDonnelly, LBJ-Scientific advisors said these weapons of mass destruction with those of environmental catastrophes. as I will argue, he said, these weapons are particularly suited for covert or secret wars. All right. Thank you for the call.
Starting point is 00:10:28 That's a conspiracy theory Thursday call if I've ever heard one. Thank you, Lucretia. On to the next person. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, good morning, Bill. This is Brad.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Brad, good to have you on. What are you thinking today, huh? Thank you, sir. I come through California and Oregon when I get into Medford. I love listening to your radio show. Appreciate that. And I heard you talking about these kids, middle school kids going out and protesting and that, and the district nailed them with a one-day suspension.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Boy, what a punishment for these kids to have to miss a day of school, huh? I don't know. Yeah, that's what I thought, too. He's just like, oh, okay, so I missed a day of school here, and now they're going to punish me with another day of school out. Okay. Right, and I don't know if anybody else has brought this up to you, not. And I apologize if somebody had, what about making these 80 kids have to show up on
Starting point is 00:11:12 a Saturday for six or seven hours of study time? And if they don't show up, then they don't graduate until they do complete that. Saturday. I actually like that. I think that's a that's much better. See, rather than just saying, we're going to punish you with a suspension. And there's a mark on your permanent record, right? Brad, it's like, oh, so what, right? You know, that kind of thing. Exactly. So in other words, take a day out of the weekend. I like that. A lot better. A lot better. And at the parents, you're not going to graduate, so the parents can't barely say, okay, well, never mind. You don't have to show up on it. Because you're not going to graduate,
Starting point is 00:11:47 move on to the next grade school until you turn around and complete that day that you need to show up for six, seven hours of a study study. All right. Well, at least I would certainly show a, you know, there's a consequence for it. I don't know if a suspension actually works. But thanks with the call. Good call, Brad. Good hearing from you. Let me go to the next line.
Starting point is 00:12:05 This is Bill. Hi. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. This is Lynn. Hello, Lynn. How are you today?
Starting point is 00:12:11 Welcome. Good. Yeah. So I got into it on Facebook under the post on the first. RV Times, maybe on the scanner page, I think. But what I was saying is these kids are middle schoolers. They are not knowledgeable enough to be able to assess a complex issue like this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And I got so much pushback. Some from parents, one from a teacher, like, these kids do care about issues, and they're very opinionated, and they don't always agree with what their parents believe. The thing is, though, no, they're idiots, though, because you know what? We're all idiots at that age. We're learning. Okay. Of course. And I said, you know, I subbed in the middle schools for five years in the Medford School District, and most kids cannot write a paragraph, much less an essay. And if they can't write a paragraph explaining their side and then the opposing side and then why they believe, you know, the pros and cons and then the position they took and why they don't understand the issue. And they'd be so much better off just being in school and learning how. how to write. Because when you learn how to write, you learn how to think. And so, well, the moment, when I saw the first reports of that story, and they were talking about that there were some parents with them, I'm going, uh-huh, that's what's really driving this, I think.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That's what I wanted to know. Who are the adults that took them? Was it a teacher? Because if it was a teacher, why isn't that teacher being punished? Yeah. I didn't see that in the article. So you think some parents took them. Well, they said that there were some parents in attendance. I don't know if they actually took the kids, where maybe they were the ringleaders. I can't answer that because, yes, there was, you know, the reporting on that detail is rather thin. Yeah, it's pretty important. Who took them and who led them? Because they're kids. They don't know nothing about nothing. So this is really on the adults more than the kids, in my opinion. I do think it was interesting that Brad said instead of having just another day suspension, just a one-day study session on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:14:10 What do you think about that? Would that even be work? Sure, that'd be great, but then the teachers have to come in, and I'd be hard to get them to agree to do that, I think. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, I think, I think, I'm glad that the school did not defend it, and at least that they're giving, you know, some token punishment. But I want to know who are the adults that put the kids up to this? Because, you know, kids are being manipulated by adults, and they don't even know it. and of course the Oregon education is all in on teaching kids to be like you say throat punching antifa activists and it's really disturbing what's going to happen is people who think like
Starting point is 00:14:48 this or don't think you know become a voting age you know Lynn I know you've taught in the schools and I don't like bagging on the government system because we have to spend a lot of money we're forced to do this and many parents are not able to homeschool or whatever the situation And I don't just like saying that, okay, the whole thing is just a mess. But is it wrong for me to think, I'm just running this by a teacher, okay? You've taught in there. Is it wrong for me to think that if you're truly going to save your child, you must find a way to get him or her out of there?
Starting point is 00:15:25 Because, you know, we can get on the school boards and we can make changes and maybe long-term reform. That's not going to save the kids right now. At least I don't think it'll save the kids right now. Yeah, I agree. You do? If there's any way, if there's any way to get them out that it needs to be done, the teachers, I have to tell you almost all the teachers I met, I have great respect for, and they're great teachers. And I was impressed with the quality of the teachers. I can't think of a bad one right now. But yeah, get them out if you can. Is it just that unionized system? What is it that corrods the experience, the educational experience so much in your opinion? I know it's a big question.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Well, I used to sub for an English teacher at Mack, and he was a great teacher. The kids loved him, and I asked him about how he felt about things because he always seemed kind of depressed, and he said, it's the system. It's the system. That's the problem. He didn't go into a lot of details, but they're supposed to teach what comes down from on high, so that's part of it. And just, you know, maybe what comes through counseling. I don't exactly know, but all it takes is one leftist teacher. It doesn't take a lot to corrupt people.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So I don't have an answer for that. I just know that what's happening in the schools, the kids are not learning. Part of it is COVID. One of my good friends is an English teacher at South, and she said even her honor students, they can't retain. You teach them how to do something, and a week later they can't remember how to do it. And so something happened during COVID that changed kids. And it's everything.
Starting point is 00:17:05 It's AI. Their phones. It's all of it. But, yeah, I get them out if you can. That's the best hope anyone has. Thank you for your thoughtfulness. I always appreciate that, Lynn. Take care, all right?
Starting point is 00:17:17 All right. I'll grab a couple more calls. Kevin Starris going to join me here in a couple of minutes. All right. And let me head to line one. Morning. Morning, Bill. David.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Hi, David. Thanks for being there. You bet. Yeah, I just want to tag in on this thing. I actually, my conspiracy about this is there are so many things being thrown at me, at least, what I'm experiencing through your show and through other ways of getting information, that there's no way to completely focus on one thing and stick with it long enough to see a project that might take 20, 30, 40 years to get to.
Starting point is 00:17:57 to get to some positive results. In other words, we're just socially atomized then, is what you're saying. Well, I'm just thinking there is so much chaos and clutter happening that, you know, you can go from, I don't know, now it's the war, but before that it was something to do with Epstein, and before that it was, you know, something else. And any one of these things, we have, you know, do I roof the house or do I fix the foundation or do I cut down the tree. There's just too many things to do on a Saturday, you know?
Starting point is 00:18:31 Yeah, well, I think, though, that... I think that what we must do, especially with our local response to such things, though, is that some things we can take care of at our local area. Yeah, you're probably right. Ultimately, no, we're not going to take on the Federal Reserve banking system and eliminate that and stop the war machine. We're probably not going to be able to stop that, you know, at... But I guess what I'm saying, Bill, even if this Oak Grove thing, they're just teaching the kids that this is how to behave.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Somehow, if I have children and I'm running a household, I have to organize my household. And a lot of households are not organized to have children to get the lunches to the kid, to get the kid out the door on time, to maintain. There's cluttering chaos in some of these households. I don't know why, you know, they're always advertising to feed my children. Thank you for feeding my kids. And I'm thinking, you can't make a peanut butter sandwich, a couple of dollar store cookies and some milk money and an apple and get the kid out the door. I mean, that's how what I had for lunch and I survived, I mean, or even thrived in some ways of life.
Starting point is 00:19:44 So I'm just having a hard time with it. But I think my theory is, my conspiracy theory is just there's other people that are fine, people pulling the levers, if I can use it. that that Wizard of Oz metaphor. And they want us overloaded and confused. Exactly. Okay, all right. I think it's a good theory.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I really do. Appreciate the call. And I'll take one more. Hi, good morning. Hi, Bill. It's Francine doing the double dip. Uh-oh. All right.
Starting point is 00:20:15 Okay, I'm going to put a permanent mark on your permanent record. Dark mark there. But anyway, please, go ahead. Well, before I get to my point, I just want to say, comments on something Lynn had said when she mentioned, you know, she's not sure what it is, whether it's, you know, from COVID and all that. I absolutely agree that during COVID, the vaccinated children, that I think there was probably, you know, the MRI and all that stuff that they put in there, I'm sure that it affected the way kids' brain patterns work. But that's
Starting point is 00:20:48 not why I called. But that's my conspiracy part. But the other thing, the reason I called is terminology is really important. And we've been calling these people that come into our country, you know, the illegal aliens, you know, for so long. And then the people get their hair on their backs up and they're going, no person is illegal, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, we need to change what we call them because a person who snicks into a country is technically an infiltrator or an invader.
Starting point is 00:21:18 So why don't we start calling them the invaders or the illegal invaders? or something like that. I mean, we have to change, we have to change the terminology to keep making our point. Be a little more inflammatory. Okay, point well taken. I appreciate the call. All righty.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Kevin Sterrett joins me. And, well, we're going to be talking about the gun bill in the state legislature, 41, 45. And believe it or not, even after all this conversation we've had on the war and all these other things, the news on this bill may actually be better, be better. And I'm kind of looking forward to that.
Starting point is 00:21:53 Can you believe it, Kevin Sterrett, as a pallet cleanser? Yeah. This is Bill Meyer with KMED. Programming note that if you miss one of my shows or you want to go back and listen again, I always archive this Saturday only at Coast. Hi, I'm Matt Stone from Pressurepoint Roofing, and I'm on 106.3, KMED. 20 before 8. Kevin Sterrin is standing by for letting him cool down on the treadmill.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I call it. He was like puffing and puffin and puffin. We'll get to you in just a second here, Kevin. Glenn R. Schambeau is joining me right now. Glenn, you want to talk about those kids? The kids at Oakdale Middle School ended up getting one-day suspension for their protesting efforts. What say you, huh? Well, I was one of those kids.
Starting point is 00:22:35 I didn't go to school at all, Bill. You didn't? I worked in a mine. Seriously, I worked in a mine. I was 16 years old, and I'd worked my way up in jobs like that. You know, if you're a kid and you have no family, you're on the street, life is very different. But I'll tell you something we knew all about was the economy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Kids looking for a couple hours of work, you watched our economy in America just crash in the early 70s. And here in Southern Oregon, it was a total disaster. The mills closed. Everything closed. Everything was expensive. People were out of a job on the street. The USDA was handing out free food. We couldn't control it, and we can't control it right now, Bill.
Starting point is 00:23:19 That's an interesting statement there. Do we know the whole, well, we don't even know the whole impact of it right now, do we? No. Uh-huh. But, you know, I so remember being on the streets in Honolulu and watching our economy just crash. And, you know, the Army, everybody was trying to control it. It was truly a disaster. So we could expect more of the same right here.
Starting point is 00:23:46 All right. The one thing you did mention, though, off air is that you said that when you were marching in the streets, though, the kids, you knew everything, too, didn't you? You knew everything. We knew it. We knew what the parents didn't know. We knew that the newspaper wasn't telling you that the Marines were fighting in Cambodia. We knew that. All right. Good. Thank you, Glenn. Appreciate the call. 770, KM.D.
Starting point is 00:24:13 You actually hold that here for just a second because I think Kevin Sterrett has. cooled down enough on the treadmill. Yeah, because I called you, and so you do the treadmill, and good for you, by the way. I appreciate you're working for your physical health here and mental well-being. Welcome back, Kevin Sterrett. Ironically, from your last caller, while I was in the treadmill, I was watching a video about late baby boomers, which I would be. And the environment he described of the 70s is exactly what it was.
Starting point is 00:24:44 You know, everybody hates baby boomers because we had it so easy. well, got in the 70s, he's right. Everything was collapsing mortgage rates with 25%. It was a war going on, and yet it was all our fault. Yeah, well, it's all our fault today, right? Yeah. Well, I'm a late baby boomer, too. I was born in 1961, so I was just a kid in the early 70s, all right?
Starting point is 00:25:05 But what I do remember, I do remember the struggles of my father, my mother and father, you know, sometimes trying to... Well, yeah, and interestingly, that's exactly what this video talked about, the gas line, the parents getting, you know, laid off. The mom's having to go to work. It was really, you know, quite interesting, especially in light of the call you just got. Yeah, well, one of the reasons that we purchased a 1971 Pinto, we bought a Pinto for the full price of 1919, plus I think they charged us $45 for the AM radio back at that time. Did it have side view mirrors? Yes, it did have side view mirrors on it, and it did have a heater, but my parents caught that, bought it that year because my father had been laid off. And I kind of forgot about this. You know, 1971, he gets this. And so we buy this.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And so he took some of the savings, and we took a drive across Canada in a 1971 Ford Pinto. And no, we did not get emulated or anything like that. I was going to ask if the gas tank exploded. Yeah. And, of course, my little brother, Mikey, he had to sit on the hump, the transmission hump in the back. So he's the baby. None of this means anything to many of the people who are listening. I know, but if anybody, but anybody remembers what it was like being a little kid and having to sit on the transmission hump, that's it. But that also sees that, that also shows how our parents didn't care about us because we didn't each have a child safety seat. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Yeah. A couple of weeks ago I was sitting in a coffee shop and the gal who was the barista was having trouble with the cash register because it was electronic and connected the internet. And nothing was working. So I said, I said, but it sounds like you're on dial-up. and she looked at me like, what the hell are you talking about? And then she's thinking, okay, old man, all right? Well, I don't think she was even thinking that. It meant nothing to her.
Starting point is 00:26:56 And there was a youngish couple sitting there home. I'm guessing we're in there maybe very early 30s that kind of looked over and sort of smile. I was like, you don't know what it is either. I asked the barista, said, you know what herodagh's telephone is? And she says, well, I've heard of them. You've got to love that, Kevin. you really do.
Starting point is 00:27:16 That's okay. I love interfacing. Well, I was in line over at Sherms the other day. And then there was a young woman in front of me talking about, oh, man, I missed the music of the 90s. I'm thinking to myself, waxing poetic about the 90s. And all right, anyway. Well, lucky for her, there's Spotify. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:36 All right. Hey, I wanted to get an update, though, on House Bill 4145, the gun bill. This is the one that would have set up all. sorts of rules on measure 114's implementation. And there was a lot of stuff going on. It was really, really bad. And you were telling me yesterday that actually we're looking at a little more of a positive outcome potentially here. And I was wondering if you could set the table here after we've talked about how old we are out of touch with tech. Well, it's, okay, so 41.45 was made, basically made Measure 114. Considerably worse by,
Starting point is 00:28:14 jacking up the fees, giving immunity to police department that didn't issue permits, adding a lot to the time that it took before you were allowed to attempt to ask for permission to exercise a right. And so that appeared to be kind of barreling through. And it had passed the House. And then it went over to the Senate side where it had to go to a committee, which is the typical progress of bills. So because most committees are closed, it went to the Senate Rules Committee, which is chaired by Senator Casey. Jama who barely speaks English. Now, is Jama the one that was Republican who then switched to Democrat?
Starting point is 00:28:52 No, that was Cyrus Javadi. Oh, okay, Javidi, yeah, okay. English with forked tongue. Oh, okay, so he just lies. Okay, got it. Yeah, he's a whore, but Jama is Somalian, and his parents were camel herders. People might hate me for saying that, but that's what he really, his English is almost completely undecipherable to the point where.
Starting point is 00:29:14 When he's calling people up to testify or giving out their names to testify online, most people don't react because they have no idea what he's saying. I mean, it's really, really bad. In any event, they had a hearing a few days ago, and that was where it stood. The next step after a hearing is a work session, which happens to the same committee. And in that committee, they adopt amendments and then choose to either vote the bill to the floor to be voted or not. And if it's at get to that point, it's really rare that it doesn't get voted to the floor. It happens, but it's extremely rare. Anyway, in the beginning of this whole mess, House Rep Ed Deal had offered an amendment that basically completely changed the bill from something awful to something that just delayed the implementation dates to 2028.
Starting point is 00:30:06 And I had seen that amendment and said, okay, that's a good amendment. He's a Republican. It has no chance. It's going nowhere. And then just prior to the work session, late the evening, late in the evening, so this work session was yesterday, so late in the evening before, an amendment appears that was by Wagner. And Wagner, of course, is the far left Senate president. And it was essentially everything that Adil had asked for. And what it essentially did is it removed all the language of the bill and just said the bad things of 114, meaning a requirement for a permit to ask for permission.
Starting point is 00:30:43 to exercise a right, and the criminalization of conventional feeding magazines will be delayed until 2028. So that essentially was a gut and stuff, but a good gut and stuff from the sounds. Yeah, it's a little ironic, because when you think what a gut and stuff does is it takes every word out of a bill and replaces it with new language, but it always does it at a point after people have had an opportunity to testify and put their positions on the record. Now, in this case, it was beneficial for gun owners because it gives us more time to fight this insanity or for people who've read the tea leaves to get the hell out of Oregon, you know, but. Yeah, yeah, well, you can lay down some more suppressed fire out of Oregon Firearms Federation, right?
Starting point is 00:31:28 That kind of thing. Yeah. In many cases, it makes things considerably worse. So if you've gone to the trouble of either testifying or submitting testimony, taking a particular. stand, you're now on the record either supporting something you hate or opposing something you support. In fact, when it came time to adopt the amendment, which I think most people would agree, you know, gun owners would agree is beneficial under the circumstances. Kim Thatcher, who's, you know, very, very strongly pro-gun voted no. Just because she didn't, it was like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't even have time to absorb this. Now, I don't know how she'll vote on the floor. I presume she'll vote for it. But this is the process where people make their voices heard, and then everything that they said becomes irrelevant, because at the very last second, every word is removed and replaced by something they had not seen coming. So anyway, that's where that is now. It has been, it's been turned into something that obviously is beneficial. Because delaying the implementation of Measure 114, even if it comes out of the courts, it could come out of the courts today. Who knows? Right. And not only that, I mean, it could come out of Oregon's courts today. At some point, you know, we have a federal lawsuit that's been sitting in the Ninth
Starting point is 00:32:47 Circuit for years. And I believe that they're going to delay it as, you know, I don't, there's no time limit on when the federal courts have to address something. So here's a case where people's rights and property are at stake in the Ninth Circuit, which is very anti-gun, has just chosen to say, you know, we're not going to do anything about it because if they do nothing and the state court implements this nightmare, they get what they want and they don't have to go on the record and they don't have to reach a conclusion that could be reversed by the Supreme Court, which I think is unlikely anyway because Supreme Court doesn't like to take these cases. But for now, that's where it stands. It goes to the Senate for tomorrow for a full vote. I can't predict what will
Starting point is 00:33:30 happen there. Remember, the amendment that this bill became was offered by Wagner, who's the Senate president. So I'm assuming that most Democrats are going to go along with it. But on the other hand, it is good for gun owners. So if Democrats go along with it, they're going to do it very begrudgingly. If it passes in the form that it's in, then it has to go back to the House where it originated because it's been changed. And then it would have to go to a full vote of the House then, right? Well, they have to agree to accept or not accept the amended bill. If they agree to it, that's it. That becomes a, that's the final process in the legislature, and then it just depends on whether or not the governor signs it. But still, a two-year implementation, or two-year delay before they could even implement Measure 114 would be considered a win at this point in time. Absolutely. If they don't agree to it, then typically what happens is a conference committee of House reps and senators has to be formed to come up with a compromise. But keep in mind, it's getting pretty late.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. I mean, today's the fifth, the last day of the session is the eighth. So things can happen very, very quickly. I mean, if you look at, you'll recall that this Tina Kotex tax bill, which was universally opposed. by the people and passed by the Democrats. Once it was passed, Ed Deal and others decided to create a referendum against it. But they couldn't start collecting signatures until Tina Kotech officially signed the bill, which she delayed as long as she possibly could, for obvious reasons. I mean, the woman is, you know, a partisan, total partisan act, not at all interested, as none the Democrats are, at all interested in what the will of the people is, which is hysterical because they say, oh, Measure 114 was the will of the people, even though it passed by maybe 12 votes, and maybe not even that many.
Starting point is 00:35:29 But she delayed and delayed and delayed signing that bill. This new tax bill, 1599, which changes the date, that thing moved through both houses and was signed by her within three hours. No kidding. So things can happen really, really quickly, but we are starting to run out of time. All right. Well, in this particular case, we hope that we're given a delay so at least we can keep our powder dry and keep the fight going, you know, to stop Measure 114's implementation.
Starting point is 00:35:56 So this would be a good deal. All right. Absolutely. Kevin, I wanted to ask, now, this is not in your wheelhouse, but you watch the legislative session a lot. And I'm wondering if you could tell me anything. I was reporting and talking the other day about this Oregon landlord law, which was past the other day, and in which landlords would face penalties for leaking the immigration
Starting point is 00:36:20 status of tenants, right? You know, this is the whole thing. And the reason I'm bringing this up is that this passed the Senate and only three Republicans, I think it was Noah Robinson, Kim Thatcher, and Diane Lenthicum voted no on this. And all the other Republicans joined in. And it struck me as an odd vote. And are you, is there something about this bill that was so good that the David Brock Smiths and everybody else that decided to join in on it? I'm confused. I don't know. I don't know. I'm not
Starting point is 00:36:57 familiar with the bill. It sounds what's so typical of what's been happening in this session and the last few sessions is the Democrat, obviously what I handle the Second Amendment stuff. I watch on stuff as much as possible. And what I've seen is bill after bill after bill that the Democrats are doing to better some crazy stuff, you know, like, okay, now we're going to fund Planned Parenthood, right? So your money is going to plan parenthood. They have passed a bill that protects anyone in the whole chain of childhood sexual mutilation. So if you bring a kid into state into Oregon from another state and the kids castrated, you're protected. The doctors are protected. Everyone who knows about it's protected.
Starting point is 00:37:41 This is demonic stuff. Then they pass other bills that say, okay, we're going to force insurance companies to pay for it. Like now they're saying we're going to force insurance companies to pay for all vaccines. because they should be free. Well, as you know, nothing is free, right? It's not? So they keep putting these demands on any, like landlords, insurance, and I'm not defending insurance companies, because obviously there's some issues there, but they keep creating these new restrictions on people with the belief that it doesn't cost anything.
Starting point is 00:38:12 For example, in the last session, they passed a bill that said, if a contractor is building a house for you. And he doesn't pay one of his subcontractors. The subcontractor can sue you. You will have nothing to do with it. Even though you have already paid the contractor, the money. Right. Flat out insanity. And it's bill after bill after bill. Why any Republican would vote for that? I don't know. I'll go look at the bill and see. I mean, look, when stuff like David Brock Smith, we expect that. You know, I mean, I don't know if you've got the opportunity to see his parody video where he just announced he's running for U.S. Senate. And it looks like something. was created by one of his opponents by AI to humiliate him.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Oh, no. I haven't watched that yet. Now, so he's going to duke it out with Joe Ray Perkins. Is that the deal? This is, so we got, we got those two and who knows who else. And then the House side, we have Jonathan Lockwood, who is running as a Republican for U.S. Congress. He's a gay never-trumper who worked to promote Joe Biden. He is the Republican candidate for Congress against Bynum.
Starting point is 00:39:24 But I really encourage you and everybody else to go look at David Brock Smith's introductory video to his Senate run and tell me when I saw it, I said, no, no, this is parody. This is somebody trying to humiliate him. Basically, aside from the visuals, which are hilarious, he basically comes out and says, I'm planning to run as a rhino. my whole job will be to keep everything calm and get along with everybody. I'm not going to fight for anything. It's just... Now, I do not believe you, okay? I am telling you, I will send you the link.
Starting point is 00:40:02 All right. All right, Kevin. I always... This is going to be the coolest election cycle ever. Okay, well, it's entertaining, if nothing else. You know, I have to start reminding myself of the line in that Ridley Scott, you know, The Gladiator movie. Have you not been entertained? Or are you not entertained? That's the Oregon political process, isn't it? Absolutely. I mean, it can be kind of dreary, but we have to find the
Starting point is 00:40:27 humor in this stuff. All right, we'll do. Kevin, thanks so much for checking in from Oregon firearms. Absolutely. Thank you so much. 7-7-705633. You know, there's a couple of callers that have been holding here. They were holding before I even got to Kevin Staira. And I don't want to mess with you like that. Hi. Yeah, hi. Who's this? Hey, it's Scott. Scott, what's up, buddy? What's up? Hey, out in Eagle Point in the 80s, boy, we made it on Paul Harvey, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:58 for being the Copenhagen capital of the world. And also, we got in trouble a lot of his kids for kissing. And we got out of the class. We went out in the comments. And if anybody's listening from that time, they know exactly what we're talking about. And if I remember right, the kids had got in trouble, at least at Eagle Point, had to come to school another couple weeks. So this is strange to give somebody, in my opinion, what you were saying earlier, a day off. Yeah, another day off from classes. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:34 So I'm with you on that. So what kind of penalty did you get, by the way? What was the penalty again for kissing? Oh, I think it was another two weeks, if I remember right. But some other callers may even comment on that time. It was so ridiculous. Now they teach sex education in, like, grade school. Well, yeah, well, today I think the teachers, the health teacher would probably be helping you put the condom on and demonstrate, you know, with your.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Oh, my God. Yeah. You're getting the censor now. Okay. Thank you for the call. I'll grab one more here before news. Hi. Good morning.
Starting point is 00:42:08 This is Bill. Who's this? Hey, Bill. It's wild salmon once again. I apologize. You know, like I said, I'll be a little more open on conspiracy theory Thursday. Something must have piqued your interest. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Well, Chad McCumbus and the Joy Community Deal, the church that I belong to just sponsored one of those tiny houses, the bigger one with the bathroom. Yes. $25,000. $25,000. Okay, very good. Very good. Yes. And there is some additional fees.
Starting point is 00:42:41 You have some monthly stuff that has to be paid. but, you know, people with a little bit of Social Security can make a monthly payment and exist there. I think it's a wonderful thing. I think what they're doing, I think what Chad is doing in Jackson County and what Brian Boutel is doing with the Senior Housing Center in Grants Pass. That's wonderful things, and these are assets that can then be used for years and years to help people, get them off the street, these senior citizens. Okay, that's good thing. Absolutely. Give them some dignity until they die. All right. Thank you for the call there, Steve.
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