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This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. Now more with Bill Meyer. It's not a little issue the other day Tim Tebow testified before the Senate about escalating child sexual exploitation and how they're seeing this as a crisis happening in the United States. And he's talking to the Congress critters and saying, hey, we need to do more about this. And I wanted to talk with General Counsel for the National Center for Sexual Exploitation about not just this incident,

but what is going on here and what he's trying to do with a lawsuit filed against the social media platform. Exit's Benjamin Bull, who's the General Counsel for the National Center for Sexual Exploitation. Ben's great to have you on. Good morning, sir. Thank you for having me. This is such an important issue. Thank you for covering it. And between all the war conversation and the money and the markets and everything else, this has kind of gotten lost in the shuffle here. So I wanted to get a little bit of love for it. And Ben, could you kind of set up what you and NC OSCE are working to do?

I mean, I know there's a lawsuit that you filed against X, and I hear about these kind of things all the time. But it's Section 230 or whatever is. But set up our challenge, like what Tim was talking about, and what the lawsuit is hopefully going to address. Yeah, it's far more complicated than you realize, but I think I can simplify it by saying that there are hundreds of thousands, millions really, of child pornography images being bought sold and traded on the Internet right now. These are images of children tied up, sometimes tortured, and certainly all engaged in some form of sexual gratification for adults. These images, whether they're videos or whether they're pictures, they're being uploaded to the Internet. internet. And as I say, bought, sold, and traded. They're being accessed and viewed and being monetized through advertising, paywalls, and so forth and so on. And what most people don't realize,

people may say, well, okay, I knew that because there's all these hardcore porn outlets out there. But that's not specifically what I'm talking about. I'm talking about outlets like X, TikTok, only fans. Our lawsuit is against X. We represent two 13-year-old. boys whose child pornography images were uploaded to X and the parent and monetized by X. And the parents and the boys contacted X, brought it to their attention, used that. The portal set up by X kind of reporting. It took about 10 days. X finally got back to the families and said, we've looked at the content.

We find that it does not violate our policy and we will not be taking it down. And these are two 13-year-old boys that were basically groomed and seduced to engage in sex-ex with each other by a 16-year-old, someone they thought was a 16-year-old girl. It turned out to be a 47-year-old pedophile. Oh, great. Who uploaded the images to X, right? Now, between the event about two weeks later, the family finally got someone from Homeland Security to contact X, said, look, this is a child pornography. You've got to take it down right now. It's a violation of federal law.

And they did. But the problem was, but between the time that they were notified and admitted that they viewed the porn, child porn, and refused to pull it down, there were over 200,000 views. There were countless downloads, which means these boys will be on the Internet forever. Yeah, it's not going to go away. The Internet is forever on this one, Ben. If you don't may be asking a few details about it. I'm not trying to be scatological or sorted about it. Were they naked pictures? Were the boys identifiable in these pictures? Totally identifiable. Oh, boy. Active sex acts by two 13-year-old boys. Totally naked. Easily identifiable. They were kids. I mean, they're 13. They look like they're about 11.

And this wasn't a situation to which, well, we really couldn't tell how old the girl was because she could have been 16. She could have been 20. No, these were little boys. In fact, there were hundreds of comments associated with these tweets and retweets, things like, these really are kids. How can they be up there? My, you know, look at these. So people were seeing this and even realizing that there was a problem, and X was sort of dropping the ball and just not seeing a serious issue, I guess. That's what you're saying.

And they could claim surprise. They didn't know about it. But once they were put on notice and once they admitted that they looked at the images and refused to pull them down, they're on the hook. Now, what makes this particularly galling is the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals held that X, along with all other online platforms, have absolute immunity from civil lawsuits for child pornography that are up, it's uploaded and monetized on their platforms, even when they know it's child pornography, even when they know it's a violation of federal law. Okay, what kind of a judge could draw that conclusion? Is that, I mean, are they right about Section 230 of the Communications Act or not? Well, I had to laugh. You called the Congressman Critters, Congress Critters.

Congress passed the law in 1996 called Communications Decency Act, which did a couple of things. But some of the things were good, but one of the things that was bad was they gave immunity to online platforms. platforms for third-party content uploaded to the internet. What they did not intend, however, was to give a carte blanche immunity for violating child pornography law and sex trafficking law. Yet that is how the courts have interpreted that statute, this ADA 230 that you mentioned. We believe that it is a misinterpretation. It was never intended to be interpreted that way. And several members of the Supreme Court have indicating as such in dissents and concurrences.

And so we have a case on a petition for certiori to the Supreme Court asking the court to review the judgment of the Ninth Circuit giving carte blanche immunity to X for knowingly monetizing child pornography. Now, I think the really pertinent point here is knowingly. Once you know, I mean, before you know, I can understand. I mean, X is a big platform and there's a lot of action going on there, right? I mean, you can understand this. But once you know, there shouldn't be any immunity from it. Now, it could have been that they had AI responding. We don't know, but we do know we have a typed transmission from them saying they have reviewed the content.

It does not violate our policy and we will not take it down. We have that in writing. So we do have actual knowledge. And one of the things we've learned in our own investigation of X and these other platforms is that the amount of child pornography on X is staggering. It literally there are not tens of thousands, but hundreds of thousands of child porn images that are bought sold and traded on X every single day. Now, X has a zero tolerance policy on their website for child pornography. Those are just words. That's a marketing tool on their part.

they do engage in some deletions but not nearly enough to deal with the vast quantity of child porn on their sites and they could tomorrow they could adopt AI software that would recognize the facial features of these kids and eliminated about 98% of it in one fell swoop. Now is there, I'm kind of curious then. It makes me wonder then if X doesn't do this or Instagram wouldn't want to do this because it means fewer clicks, less advertising revenue. So even if it is about supporting child porn, what matters is the bottom line?

What do you think? Certainly the profiting to the tuna of tens of millions of dollars and more. But I also think it's about no one tells us how to run our business. We're the big sheriff in town. Government get out of our shorts. We tell you what to do.

You don't tell us what to do. And then once every year or so these guys, Zuckerberg and company, They go to Congress, they testify, they do Mia Copa, we'll do better, and they never do. They never change. And finally, the Supreme Court has a chance to resolve one of the great important issues of our time. Are they really immune when they engage in knowing illegal conduct with child pornography on their platforms? We'll find out.

Yeah, because I would agree with you, Ben. By the way, I'm talking with Benjamin Bull. He's the General Counsel for the National Center for Sexual Exploitation. I don't think Congress's intent. Now, the fact that you said that it was ruled by the Ninth Circuit doesn't surprise me. It's the most reversed circuit, is it not? You know, when it comes to the Supreme's. It is the most reversed circuit.

Well, the irony is that the law is called the Communications Decency Act. Yeah, and I don't know how it is decent to have, you know, 13-year-old child porns, you know, being monetized and spread within the Internet, and they know about it, and they do nothing to stop it. But I have a feeling that the response, that you got was probably from a bot, and most likely not a real human. They probably automated that part. They really did.

They chose to use a bot. But, you know, in other words, if they made a mistake, it was their error. They said they reviewed it. And if they had a bot review it, well, get a better bot. Because there were hundreds of thousands of views during the time that they said they viewed it, and they did not pull it down. Yeah. And they're held responsible for their boss.

And technically, aren't the people that paid for this? and then wanted to download it? Aren't essentially they perverts that should be prosecuted too? Yeah, they violated federal law. They could be prosecuted for receiving child pornography, and if they upload it, transmitting child pornography. It's a federal violation. In fact, it's the violation of the law of every single state, all 50 states.

Yeah. All right. This is amazing. So the ask then right now, the only ask, is for the Supreme Court to take the case. That's what you're asking for, right? Right, right. And this came up in a Tim Teba testimony.

The Tebow Foundation has filed an amicus brief that's a friend of the court brief supporting the Supreme Court's reviewing our case, granting cert. And he's been so helpful and so supportive. Kudos to Tim Tebow. He is not just a Christian football player. He's a hero. He's really become an outstanding leader in this area. kudos to him. What was it about Tim that got him so involved in this? I'm just curious,

you know, was he exploited in some way, or maybe he was aware of this, or just, it's kind of his spiritual grounding that helped him. I think that he and his team prayed about it, and, you know, they had a foundation to try to do good, help society, and this issue is at the top of the queue. This is not just something that's happening. It's reached crisis point. And if you have kids on the internet. It's not just a matter of if they will be approached by groomers and pedophile. It's a matter of when. And it's not going to go away until the Supreme Court does something and then law enforcement cracks down. And they hold companies like ex-accountables. You know, X is not an outlaw entity. It's supposed to be mainstream. Yeah. Doing this right in front

of us. Are there any social media companies that actually do it right in your view, Ben? No. In fact, we have the dirty dozen. It's something called the dirty dozen list. We post every year. Our organization does Nkosie, in which we list the most frequent or the worst violators. And of the 12, I think, 10 are online platforms that you would recognize, the most popular ones. National Center for Sexual Exploitation is what we're talking about.

And Ben Benjamin Bull is the General Counsel for this. I know that at the end of the month, you're going to release the latest, a dirty dozen. You know, every year you put out that dirty dozen. Definitely have you back on this. I think the main thing that people need to do is, first off, sign up, get the updates from endsexualexploitation.org. It's endexploitation.org. And I'll make sure and put that information up there. What I'm wondering about here, Ben, is that, you know, there's been all this talk about, you know, the Epstein files and, you know, sorted, redactors.

good stuff, you know, going on within the Epstein files, then essentially the entire internet. The way you're describing this with social media platforms is being turned into an open-air Epstein file, isn't it? Yeah. In essence, it? One of the great irony is that the Department of Justice is so deleted and censored images and content of the Epstein files, you can't even, you don't even know what they're talking about. Yet this same DOJ refuses to prosecute X and these other online platforms for knowingly violating federal child pornography laws. There's something wrong here. Benjamin, I appreciate the update, and thanks for sharing this,

and we continue to appreciate the fight that you're doing. By the way, how do you get paid? Is it donations to the foundation? How does this end up working? We're a nonprofit organization. We support through voluntary donations. We have a budget like a company, but instead of selling a product, we basically try to do good,

and people who support our work will choose to send us a check. And all of our salaries and budget, it's all online, our 9-90, and you'll see that nobody's getting rich. We do it because we believe in the cause. And hopefully we can turn this whole thing around. Benjamin, I appreciate your take, and thanks for the work. We'll have you back, okay? Be well.

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It's Conspiracy Theory Thursday. You have to take your calls. Been having a lot of good phone conversations this morning. Happy to do this. David, it's calling from the Bay Area. David, always appreciate to call in. And what are you thinking here? I didn't get a chance to get you in talking with Benjamin Bull over there at National Center for getting rid of sexual exploitation or opposing sexual exploitation.

But what do you got going on? What are you thinking? I kind of tuned in late on the interview, so I would have liked to get him to elaborate on something he said. It sounded like he was saying that if you found, if you were going through the Epstein file and you found some really horrible description of something, and you posted it on your social media page, then you could be prosecuted for distributing child porn. Oh, I don't think that's what he was talking about. What he was talking about, though, he was talking about identifiable young men who had tried to get X to take down their photos.

They were 13-year-olds. They were groomed by a 40-year-old pedophile who was, pretending to be a 16-year-old girl online, right? And, of course, it was really dumb, really bad. And their sex ex ended up, you know, going all over X. X was monetizing it, made money from it. Oh, I see. Yeah, and they were told about this.

And, of course, other pedophiles were downloading it and paying for it. And it was just, it was really sort of, really sad. And these kids, the parents of these kids, are just trying, to get X to, hey, you got to take this stuff down, and it appears it like there was a bot responding to them rather than a real person saying, well, this doesn't violate our policies. And they're all claiming, and the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals claimed that X because of Section 230 and the Communications Decency Act of 1996, I think is when it was, it came out, maybe in the early 90s, has absolute immunity from this. And they're trying to get the Supreme

Court to say, no, you don't have absolute immunity. That was what the case was. But what I was bringing up the Epstein file, I say, I find it ironic that we have all this talk about the Epstein files with all this sorted stuff on it, and yet we can't go after, you know, this stuff either. So where are you going on that? I'm going to give you the context of that, of that conversation. Yeah, I know, I see what you're saying there. Well, I still kind of, you know, I, I've heard enough description of what Trump did with, I think there's something like 18 different underage girls. And the idea that every time I raise it on a show, somebody says, well, where's the proof? Well, where's the proof?

As if they're looking for the length. And like you're saying, if people are monetizing it, or if somebody's using the, whether it's the FCC or what other agency would clamp down, on it and prosecute somebody for, because, you know, if it comes down to it, say like you've been a court case, somebody submits a video to a court to prove that somebody was molested children, and then all of a sudden the courthouse becomes the bearer of child porn. And so the courts itself, or the courts themselves would be put at risk. But the other thing I was going to raise and tied to that, in history, the biggest amount of grooming, you know, like Charles Dickens wrote about Fagan, right? I think that was David Copperfield. And he didn't really go into a lot of detail, but that was basically pickpockets and prostitutes and all kinds of problems. A little child army that makes money for Fagan. And so the idea that starvation is the, if you want to stop that stuff, you raise the standard of living enough so that you don't have starvation so that kids are not forced to, you know, get their bread and, you know, their bowl of beans for committing dirty deeds done dirt cheap.

And, you know, that kind of logic. And the fact that the Republican Party for decades have now refused to raise the minimum wage, they're forcing the issue. You think it's about the minimum wage. It's interesting because here in the state of Oregon, minimum wage is way above the Fed, the federal one. We're at about 15, 16 bucks an hour depending on which city you're in. The challenge that I have here economically with the minimum wage, though, David, and I appreciate your sympathy. I really do. I mean, I do because I've worked for minimum wage, and I've worked and starved at it. You know, I did, okay, especially in the early part of my career, especially 19.

when I first entered the job. So I appreciate your concern. I don't know if the minimum wage really, really helps raise people's. A job can't really exist unless it's able to make more money than you pay the person. I'm getting out here, just the mathematics of it. and I don't know, you know, sitting a minimum, putting a minimum price on what a job is worth. I don't know. I don't know. Does it work long term? I don't know. You get what you pay for. And as a matter of fact, the idea that, you know, this has been known for decades, centuries, actually.

You know, you starve people, you're going to have problems. And it becomes more expensive. It's like what Ben Franklin said, penny wise, pound foolish. I think what we're witnessing right now. Now, you and I, I think, would not disagree or would not agree on many things politically, but economically, the one thing I will give you a point on, all right, or that I'll say, that you have a point, and this is where the economic left has a point, though, is that I honestly feel that what has happened is that, first off, when people talk about free market capitalism, None of us have lived under free market capitalism ever since the early 1900s with the bringing end of the Federal Reserve Act, the income tax, various other things.

We don't have a free market capitalism system. It is a managed economy. And everything about it is managed and yet we're told that it's free market. What has occurred, I think, over my lifetime is just my opinion. I'm not an economist, David. Okay. So I'm just going to couch it in those caveats. is that capital has gained control of society.

And there is a real imbalance between the worker, labor, and capital. And government, of course, is partnered with capital. It has been quite in control with capital for a long, long time. Society is more unstable because of that, and it will be rebalanced at some point, maybe sooner rather than later. I don't know, okay? I don't know how. I don't.

There's the expression, full faith and credit. You know, if you go to the history, like, you know, we're 250 years into America, say like about 230 years ago, each of the 13 colonies had their own currency. And in the very beginning, they had to be convinced that the U.S. dollar would work in all different. and 13 colonies. And then as this, as the nation added states, it added, you know, the full faith and credit that the U.S. dollar was going to work in all of them. And so the idea that the company store, you know, you'd have a mining town, for example, have their own company money, and you would be paid in company script, and that would be dependent upon whatever the boss

said it was worth. And as opposed to the full faith and credit that the U.S. dollar had more value and that it had more honor behind it. But the honor was the reputation of all of us, that we, the people, the citizens, are the value of that money. And if we allow some fat cat to just decide, oh, the value of it is what I say it is, instead of what the value. And this is why I... Well, that is essentially the system we live under. Essentially, you have the people to get first access to the Federal Reserve dollar money spout and money spicket, they're the ones that are determining the value of it. Well, the value of it essentially goes down.

We get last crack at it. And I don't, that system, I think, is inherently unstable and is coming down to its end. Of course, it can stay solvent technically a lot longer than maybe we can stay solvent. I don't know. So I partially agree. It's our muscles. Yeah. I partially agree.

with you, though. But, you know, right now, I think we're coming to the end of that regime somehow. And I don't know if it's going to be, you know, 10 years from now or in our lifetime, but the way that we work, the monetary system now can't go on forever, okay? I appreciate the call. I've got other people. I've got to get to also. But thank you, David. Appreciate your call from the Bay Area. This is the Bill O'Mire show. If you're on hold, I'll get right to you. And we'll take, it's all open phones for the last of the parts of conspiracy theory Thursday. That's 770 KMED. Chris is on the road right now on conspiracy theory Thursday.

Chris, you want to talk about the Epstein files that talk I had with Chris and other people. Go right ahead. I'm sorry with David. Go ahead. Some of your callers are being involved with Epstein and the Epstein files. And if that was the case, when Biden had the office for four years and had the Epstein files, wouldn't have that been for 2020? run. It's 2020 run and it's

2024 run? You know, I used to think that too. I don't know, for sure. I'll just give you my opinion on it, Chris, all right? And that is that the Epstein files, of course, is a intelligence operation, honey pot trap

in which it was equal opportunity. I mean, yeah, we see a lot of Democrats involved in this, but there's plenty of Republicans involved or mentioned in it, too. I think it was one of those things where it was a mutually assured destruction kind of thing. Everybody that was involved in it knows that, yeah, there's dirt.

There may be, and it may not even be dirt on Donald Trump personally, but certainly dirt on friends and associates, maybe even family members and deal makers that are involved. It's a mutually assured destruction kind of thing, so everyone would kind of agree not to touch it, I guess, right? Could that be what's going on here, really? Agree 100% with you. Yeah, and that's kind of where I'm at it.

And that's why I would like to say, yeah, if they had the dirt on President Trump, they would have brought it out there. But then it would have then brought out the dirt on other people. And everyone says, okay, they got me. They got you. All right, let's shut up. You know, that kind of thing. I appreciate the call. Steve's in Sunny Valley here, too.

Hello, Steve. How are you doing this morning? Welcome. How are you? Oh, let me go. I've got to push your button here first. How you doing there, Steve? Go ahead.

I am well. And I would just like to commend you on your patience. David. Well, you know, the thing is when someone disagrees with me or is politically coming from a different point of view, I want to try to understand. I really do want to try to understand. Sometimes it does drive me nuts, but that's okay. Yeah.

You know? Two things. His accused Trump of 18 episodes of indiscretion with minors with absolutely zero proof. That is, sullying his reputation by rumor. And that's what a lot of the Epstein files are, unfortunately, too, because anybody can accuse things. That's true. Right. And if we were to use the same standard on Iran, well, underage is below nine.

So, it's completely different society. And then the other thing is he has absolutely zero understanding on how inflation works in regards to minimum wage. I think you can look at it like this. in 1948 a McDonald's Cheeseburger cost $0.35. And you got paid $0.35 an hour to work there. And if they want to pay McDonald's employees $15 an hour, the cheeseburger is going to cost $15. Well, really what's going to happen, though, is that that doesn't pencil, right?

No, it doesn't. That won't pencil. And so what usually ends up happening is that the job that was paying paid $15 has been automated by an AI-operated hamburger robot, and that's what's going on. It really pushes forward advancement in robotic. We can't, through government Fiat, make a job worth more than what it is. I wish we could, but you can't honestly do that in the long run. And we have so many barriers to employment now anyway.

You can't afford to hire anybody, and then if you do hire somebody and something goes wrong, then you're liable for anything, so you have to have expensive insurance. We've got to remove the barriers to hiring people to get things moving again in this country. I'll agree with you. Thank you very much for the call, Steve. 770KMED. We got Ron and Grants pass. Hello, Ron. Go ahead. Yes, good morning. Let's pretend that Kakula Harris was elected instead of Mr. Trump. And let's presume that Iran is able to continue on with their nuclear bomb-making obsession. And let's pretend that on shipping containers, 100,000 or more per year in, that three of those have nuclear bombs. And one is placed on the West Coast, one is placed in the Midwest, and one is placed on the East Coast.

And they're all set off at once. Guess what happens to America? A lot of things are disrupted. You can't grow things. People get radiation poisoning. And I think that we just better be happy that we're going the direction we are with Mr. Trump. All right. Well, take it.

I appreciate the opinion. Beligerd Brad. Do we want to call you that these days, Brad? Go ahead. Welcome. Oh, you bet. Yeah. Yeah, this is your buddy.

Believe your Brad here this morning. Hi, Bill. What's up? Hey, so here's the deal. You know, you know, I'm an old Oregon guy, and I remember when Oregon was well managed and reasonable and all that kind of stuff. It feels like a long time ago, doesn't it? That was a long time ago.

So here is the problem with old Oregonians like me when it comes to this Senate bill 1599, is it's looking at probably one of the most sacred pieces of the Oregon contract with the people in the legislature, which is if the legislature does something that is so odious and unacceptable to the Oregon voters, the Oregon voters have this very powerful thing called the initiative that they can get it on the ballot so that all of the voters in Oregon can use their voice and say, hey, we don't like, or yeah, we do like it or no, we don't like it. Yeah, and then what happens is that Governor Kotech then and the minions, they move this. They want to move this because of the political hot potato-ness of it, right? Yeah.

So the thing is, is nobody, they ran this bill, the bill that they ran the initiative to overturn. They ran that down everybody's throat in the first place. The governor signed it at the last possible minute to make it hard, and they raised an astounding record 250,000 signatures three times the necessary in the shortest period of time that anybody could imagine showing how much support there is. So what the legislature is saying, what a majority-dominated legislature is saying is, we will allow the people of Oregon to have an initiative voice. as long as it doesn't contradict with what we want to do in the legislature. And that is the exact opposite of what the initiative was created for in the first place. Well, in other words, it's a big FU back is what it is. It is.

The legislature can't go through the initiative, especially after it's already been certified. You've got to remember this bill. This initiative was certified by the Secretary of State, and after it was certified, then the legislature says, well, you know, we don't. like this and we don't like the thing that we really don't like is we don't like the date that that yeah they don't like the day of the bottom line though is that ed deal and others have joined in they're filing a lawsuit to challenge this and so it may be moot in marian in marian county marian county oddly enough that's uh that's where gubernatorial candidate uh danio beth ell

is from and we'll we'll see what happens but i'm telling you whether you're a democrat or republican or a non-aligned voter this is no bueno no bueno you don't you don't you don't don't want your initiative rights being traveled on by the legislature where the legislature says, we'll give you the right to have an initiative as long as we can go in after the fact and change all the things on it we don't like. But the other thing I will remind you, though, is that Republicans had lots of days of unexcused absences they couldn't have used, and there is very little fight to use them, the one tool they have to stop it.

Just letting you know, there's another side of that of lack of fights. on the Republican side, unfortunately. Thanks for the call, Brad. If you're on hold, I'll get right to you. It's open phone, 7705663-3-770KMED. Gold at 5078, silver 81-87, kind of flat, maybe a little bit softer than yesterday as the greater markets continue to,

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It is 852 and change, taking your call, 770560. 633-3-3-770 K-M-E-D. Email of the day, and then I'll get right back to the calls. Sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson in Central Point Family Dentistry. We'll have a longer email system tomorrow. It's got a bunch coming in today. But, yeah, we'll give one to Dale Casey. Dale writes of Medford Bill.

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Who's this? Welcome. This is Kristen Medford. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today? Well, one wondering about conspiracy theory, but second to just comment. The conspiracy theory I'm worried about is what is this about the decoupling from, the bill of no tax on tips, no tax on overtime.

I never expected Oregon to abide by that. But is it, I just don't understand what it did. Yeah, I would have to do a little bit, I did not dig deeply into it. If I recall correctly, it's about a $300 million in tax breaks that went away for Oregon with the passage of that bill that you're speaking about, Chris. and I can't give you the exact parts of it that were reduced or eliminated. Let me do a little search on that, and I'll work that tomorrow. But, yeah, and states do this all the time.

Some states will do this, and they will not just take the federal tax breaks at face value. They'll say, well, we'll accept that or we will not. They can do that. States are allowed to do this. Right. But you see, this also shows that the state was lying all about it. Essentially what they did is that they did that in order to keep the money for ODOT. So they don't even need all those fees in taxes that they were doing.

But, you know, they want the money anyway. They want the extra money anyway, one way or the other. Right. But, no, and just my other comment is, I've talked to you before about I want to give lessons on traffic circles. I also want to give lessons on merging. Good luck. Good luck. Well, no, you do not go to the end of a merge lane on the highway.

I know. And just go over and expect that big, giant truck that's in the lane to give you the right-of-way. Yeah, I agree with you. And we are not the best of that. But, Chris, you know what? But you're talking about a pebble. You know, the pebble in my shoe is people that turn left. You're in the left lane, and then they turn into the far-right lane.

I want a heat-seeking missile from my vehicle that would go and blow that vehicle up so that way that, you know, when I try to turn it into the lane legally, that I'm not blocked by them and having them honking their horn at me. So I'm trying to move over. Right. No, same thing with merging is that they go all the way up to the top of the merge lane. and then they squeeze in like, they're not even a turn signal. Yeah, I know. I know. I know.

Feel your pain. Thanks, Chris. Conspiracy Theory Thursday. Who's this? Hey, Bill, it's Lucretia. La Cretia, I, boy, I don't have time for, you know, I already had you on, a bunch. I know. If Francine gets to double dip, me too.

Yeah, well, I don't, you know, frankly, at the very end, no, that's not true. You know, I'm out of time right now. You tend to take a little more time than many, okay? I'm sorry. I want to get two people who maybe he didn't get through it all today, all right? Hi, good morning. Who's this? Hey.

Hi, Greg. Go ahead. Yeah, I'll try to make this quick, but, you know, first of all, this has been one of the most entertaining shows I've ever heard. Really? Thank you so much. There's been so many, the whole first half, I was just wrapped. I was just listening in awe. Wow.

Thank you. Okay. You're welcome. I kudos everybody who called in there. So, conspiracy Thursday. Yeah, I got about 20 seconds for you. If you can make a good point on this one, I'm just running out of time. Dutty wild edibles. You're going to need him.

All right. That's not a conspiracy. That's a matter of fact, maybe. Yeah. Okay. Hi, KMED. Good morning. Who's this?

Good morning. This is Don and Rogue River. Hello, Don. We got about a minute. Can you give me a quick point in that? I'm sorry to touch off. I was trying to get through for like 20 minutes. Okay, so it's about contracts with the IRS.

They're voluntary. There's no law that we have to pay the IRS. Why do we believe we have to pay them in the first place? Where does the jurisdiction come from? Why are you obligated to file? Because you have a pulse and a job to contract a fraud. They're completely voluntary. It's code 601, 602.

You do not have to file at all. And I wasn't expecting to shorten the century. Yeah, well, I'll tell you, I'll have more open phone time tomorrow. Maybe you can give me a call back then, but all I would advise you is that, yeah, you can say, I know they talk about it being a volunteer tax system, all right, and you're right. Technically, they say that, but try not volunteering. Okay, well, I'm just out of time, though, but try not volunteering, and you'll find out the truth.