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Episode Date: March 10, 2026

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Live feed is up. Appreciate you listening or watching wherever you happen to be here. Top of the news here this morning here. I'm just going to hit some of the local or regional stories first before we get to the carnage known as what's going on in the Mordor on the Potomac. There's plenty of time for all that kind of stuff. In fact, I'm going to be talking with John O'Connor next hour, the former federal prosecutor. I always enjoy picking his legal brain because President Trump is out and talking about how he is not going to sign. any legislation, not even to reopen the semi-shutdown sections like Department of Homeland Security part of the government right now, until there is the Save America Act.

And I've been, I mean, I love the idea of the Save America Act. I really do. And I think it's a great idea. I think having to prove your citizenship is a perfect thing to be doing. It's something we should have been doing all along if you're going to be voting, especially when you're in a country which is admitted. 10 or 20 or probably more likely 30 million illegal immigrants, illegal aliens over the last 30, 40 years. You know, for the longest time, they'd always say 11 million, right? You know, it's a lot more than that. Although I imagine we're not adding a whole lot more at the moment on the positive side with the Trump administration. The problem that when you look into the actual rules of the SAVE Act are, there are a lot of things in there. you know, the devil is in the details. How quickly will it happen?

How quickly would you... Now, I mean, if President Trump, I think, in my opinion, is spreading nonsense when he says that, you know, we will have this... You're not going to win the midterms. The midterms are dead this year unless you pass the Save Act. That's what he was saying the other day. In other words, past that right now. I don't think there's any way they can even get this all in place by the November midterms. I don't think they're just any way or else there would be a lot of people that would

not, well, I know a lot of people out here, probably wouldn't be able to vote, married with different names, need a birth certificate, some other way of proving it. Now, if you ended up going out and getting a real ID recently, no problem, except that real ID doesn't mean anything in Oregon because we dirtied it up. We made real ID for illegal aliens. Oh, yeah. Even though a lot of times you had to get out and get your real ID, your real ID driver's license, if you got one of those, I know a lot of people have chosen not to do that too. But even if you got that, yeah, I showed my birth certificate in order to get my real ID, but that's not the proof because they don't differentiate it. A real idea is a real idea as a real idea as far as you look at it to anybody.

We wouldn't want to call anybody out for being here illegally, right? we wouldn't want to call out anybody for being non-citizen because discrimination or reasons. You know, it's just the way the state works. I'm going to talk with John about that. And we're going to look into this a little bit more deeply, okay? Now, I did mention a little bit closer to home. Over in Portland, we had a federal judge issue an injunction yesterday, Judge Michael Simon, and this has to do with all these so-called peaceful protesters out in front of the ICE building.

and Simon ruling in favor of the three so-called peaceful protesters, in other words, dirtbag Antifa, and two freelance journalists, probably Antifa too, I don't know, but saying that the officers commanded by the Federal Protection Service used excessive force against him, and it's chilling First Amendment protected speech. So what Simon is now ordering the judges, or the judge Simon is ordering the officers at FPS to do, no chemical or projectile weapons are to be used unless there's an imminent threat, an imminent threat. Of course, as we know in the Trump administration, an imminent threat, that could be interpreted a lot of ways, right? You know, Sam, remember I was just joking about this a few days ago.

We were told back in July of last year that the nuclear program in Iran was completely destroyed, obliterated, gone, nothing else to see. Done. Remember the attack last year? and then just a couple of weeks ago there was an imminent threat. So maybe the ICE officer is going to be able to, I don't know, hey, it's an imminent threat. We're using the Iran war, that kind of thing. Also an interesting piece of news. Red light camera enforcement is being moved in South Medford.

The ones that were over there at the corner of Bardett and Stewart are going to get turned off after a couple of weeks here. and what they're doing is starting up at Highland and Barnett. Highland and Barnett, very busy one. That's one that's over there by the Black Bear, the Black Bear restaurant, that intersection there. Very busy intersection. And the claim is that we have to move the red light enforcement over there because of increasing crashes. Because it's never about more income. It's always about your safety.

Just remember the city of Medford is carrying most. it's not the fact that people are driving through that Stewart. And while that intersection over at Stewart and Barnett right now is kind of a mess with the way they have it designed with the new motel or hotel that has gone in in that situation, that was causing some problems before. So people are really careful as they're going through then. And so there's probably not as much money coming through that. And so we have to find a new happy hunting ground. And this time it's going to be Barnett and Highland.

All right. So just keep in mind that probably next week they're going to get that opened up. And the Daily Courier had an interesting story about the bank robbery from Friday. There was a Friday evening, Friday afternoon bank robbery over at the People's Bank there. And the woman that's accused of sticking up the place, actually she had a pink taser when she went in there. And she walked out of there with the pink taser in a thousand bucks cash. And the cops ended up getting the $1,000 cash and the taser later. but, you know, she threatened them, apparently, inside, accused of that.

But she was convicted of robbing a bank back in, well, 2010, 2011. Spent almost six years in prison then. And she's back to it again. And now she'd miss prison? I don't exactly know what it is with this particular person. Yeah, 58-year-old Renee Fratus. Prison time again, this is going to be a second conviction, if she's convicted. Now we don't know. She was a rain yesterday and charged with that. So I thought that interesting story.

Role Valley Times reporting that our water rates are going to rise double digits again, the first of March. Medford Water ended up going up 13 percent, more than 13 percent for a single-family residential customer. Second double-digit increase in a couple of years. They have capital improvements, plants to build, federal laws and rules that they have to go with. That's the other part that they don't talk about. much in the news stories. But yeah, all the gang green stuff. So Julie Smitherman in the story, the water resources and customer service manager says that, well, we're hoping maybe it's only going to be 6% next year. Now, your typical person in Medford within the city of Medford is going to be paying about another five bucks a month for water, so 60 bucks a year. You know what I'm wondering

about, though, and what wasn't brought up in this Road Valley time story is what's going to happen to all of the contracted cities around Medford that the Medford Water District ends up serving because they pay much, much, much higher, much higher rates. I remember there were people, remember there was the trailer park or the mobile home park that was switching out of their, what was it, Charlotte May, Water District down in Phoenix. Remember that story about a year or two ago because the district was just in bad shape? and so they ended up joining the Phoenix Water, Phoenix City Water. Well, Phoenix City Water gets water from the City of Medford,

and they don't pay the cheap rate that the City of Medford does. And let me tell you, in all the areas I've lived around the country, not only has City of Medford water been high quality, but compared with other places I've lived, dirt cheap. Well, it's not so dirt cheap now, but when you get outside the City of Medford, it starts getting very expensive indeed. I wonder what these water rates are going to be going up.

If it's going up five bucks a month for city of Medford, I'd be willing to bet you for the other contracted cities around us. Anyone, you know, Jacksonville and Phoenix and anybody else that is being served by this, it's going to get quite a bit more expensive. We are a Mediterranean type of climate. maybe we're going to have to start growing plants around here that reflect a Mediterranean climate. And we're not going to be saying, oh, we're going to be growing 50 acres of tomatoes, you know, tropical plants in the backyard.

I don't know. It could be. It could be. Well, if you have a well. Well, you have a well as long as the state doesn't come in there and say, hey, we're going to put a meter on it and stop you from using it too much. Who knows where we're going. So that's an interesting story. I'll be curious to see what happens.

It's not about Medford, really. this case, it's going to be everybody else that gets screwed by this, okay? OPB, Oregon lawmakers passing new notification rules for schools when ICE comes on campus. Yes, yes, yes. I'll tell you that short session couldn't have ended sooner. And I wish it to end like the day afterwards. But House Bill 479 school districts need to develop policies to identify when federal immigration officers are on school property and then inform parents.

staff, students, and some service providers about those sightings. I'm going to be really curious to see how they enforce this. Because the state of Oregon really does have no jurisdiction over federal immigration law. I don't believe they're really going to have true jurisdiction stopping them from enforcing immigration law in the state of Oregon with federal law. with federal officers. I don't think they're going to be able to really stop this to the extent. Maybe this is one of those virtue signaling laws. I don't know. It's kind of like, well, if we have a warrant for you and you're supposed to not be here, you're going to,

supposed to not be here. Unless the Trump administration decides to back off on Oregon, and I hope he doesn't. That's an interesting story. We'll have to keep an eye on that. It is 23 minutes after 6. 7705-633-770 KMED. Pebble in your shoe Tuesday. Pellibles, welcome here on the Bill Meyers show. Are you a fraud-paying American? One in four tax-paying Americans have been victim of identity fraud. LifeLock, your identity, if it's stolen, they fix it, guaranteed, or your money back.

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Child care for construction. When workers thrive, Oregon thrives. Hi, this is Mark from Jay Austin, and I'm on KMED. I was just talking with Mark yesterday, Mark and Andrea. Mark was tooling around town in his Tesla cyber truck. I tease him about that. I know it's a good truck. likes it, but I just think those things are uglier than sin.

Sin's even better looking than a Tesla cyber truck, in my opinion. But needless to say, we were talking about the crazy, the crazy gold and silver and the oil markets and things like that and how, well, things actually were calming down a bit. But you know what happened a few weeks ago with silver, with silver having zoomed up to like 110, 115, getting close to 120 a point, and then it dropped back. It was acting like a meme stock. That's what I told Mark. It acted like a meme stock, really, in which there was all this momentum behind it,

kind of like GameStop, and then GameStop stock just tanked. It's like there was all that momentum and then it went away. But I'm going to get him back on. We're going to talk about those golden silver markets. I like talking with him and his knowledge of such things over at Jay Austin. Good stuff there. Speaking of the markets, though, the markets. It's, well, who knows?

Who knows where the markets? I think people are calming down a little bit today. Yesterday, the markets were just, I mean, it was brutal. Wild ride in oil prices at one point. Oil was 119 a barrel yesterday morning going over $100. That's a big psychological point. And Russia's invasion of Ukraine was the last time it went up that high. And then it dropped back down.

We're looking at crude oil about 89. does that mean that your gallon of gas is going to get cheaper? New. You know, that goes up very quickly, comes down very slowly. You know how this game works, right? Now, the only thing that hasn't happened so far is that we haven't had anybody down in California with the refineries that they have left.

The CEO has not pushed the button on the console that says, the refinery must set itself on fire. You set the refinery on fire and then and then the price of gas goes up like a buck a gallon. How many times have we had that happen? Well, they were getting ready to shift over from winter to springtime blend in California and then, oh my gosh, the refinery caught on fire. Of course, they're all old too.

That's another problem, but that's the infrastructure problem we can't all fix here. But yeah, the old push the button and set the refinery on fire trick. You know how that goes? But it's looking a little calmer today. Hopefully we'll see a little bit of an uptick in the markets and things will kind of calm down. President Trump, though, going out and talking about this yesterday, says the war is going to end very soon. I think they had a lot to do with calming the markets. The oil prices did tumble shortly after that.

The problem with this, though, and you may be a Trump supporter, you may not be a Trump supporter. I'd like to see the Trump administration do very well indeed. But the way I look at is that anything we get out of a war situation, I always assume that we're being lied to at first until we're really proven otherwise correct. So I can't really tell you what's going on. I can tell you what Associated Press says in NBC. I can tell you what the White House says. But that doesn't mean anything. I don't like being this way, but the first casualty of all war is the truth.

Yes, even in the Trump administration. I was reading a financial blogger and Sean Ring and he's an expat lives in Italy. He's been living there for a number of years. And he was talking about how different the feed is on the Iran War

when you look on the non-U.S. controlled TikTok. I thought this is very interesting because what happens here is TikTok, you know, controlled by the Americans and attacks in Israel, end up being censored. You don't see it.

In fact, you get in big trouble if you end up uploading stuff in Iran. I'm sorry, in Israel, rather. Now, in Iran, you get in trouble too. But people try to sneak things out. And TikTok, according to Sean, because he talks to, he has both sides of it, the American-controlled version of TikTok

is highly censored with what's actually going on in the attacks in Iran and Israel and what's going on in the Middle East. So we have a sanitized TikTok, if you can believe that. And maybe that's one of the reasons why the United States was so big and hot and heavy and getting control of TikTok. But you see a very different TikTok on the Chinese control. Now, the Chinese control TikTok naturally would probably want to make it look a look a little bit worse. But other people are just saying, no, we're just actually seeing more of what's really going on here.

such as when a building gets hit in Israel, it gets knocked down immediately after it's been damaged because the whole idea is that you don't want to make it look like Gaza. I thought that was an interesting statement. Sean Ring over on Daily Reckoning, Rood Awakening. Pretty interesting read. It's worth getting his daily newsletter. But whatever I see on Fox, whatever I see on NBC,

I take it with a grain of salt. We'll see if it gets confirmed. over time, but it is really the first casualty of war is truth. Everybody tells their story. It's 631. This is the Bill Maher show. We'll catch up on the other stories this morning. And, of course, your calls and opinion.

You got a pebble on your shoe? I have one. It involves IP 28. I want to ask you a question about that. That's the one about the PSEC, you know, treating the animals and the critters better. Of course, it also means no hamburgers and no meat, a little minor thing like that. I want to talk a little bit about that. and pick your brain on if maybe the animal rights people have a bit of a point and maybe we could help out.

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The Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. And streamed on KMED.com. Check in at 770. 705633-770K-M-E-D, my email Bill at Billmeyer's show.com. The time change, I must admit, I'm having more and more trouble dealing with the time change every year. And I don't know if it's just because, well, I'm going to be 65 and I'm no longer 20 and staying up and, you know, drunk and disorderly in the middle of the night. Okay, I may have been drunk in the middle of the night, but I was never disorderly. I was always a Boy Scout, but we'll set that aside.

Yeah, only in my dreams was I a rowdy rouser, rabble rouser, and going in and get into the bar fights at night. That never happened. That never really happened with me. I mean, anybody tells you otherwise, forget about it, okay? But this whole thing, especially the spring time change. I know the fall, I kind of look forward to it, but I have trouble dealing with even the fall time change, too.

And I was talking with that doctor last week. They was saying that it's really a mess that we continue. to do this. And I started going to bed earlier on Friday and going to bed earlier on Saturday and Sunday trying to get the reset. And I had to tell you, I didn't talk about it yesterday, but I was a mess yesterday morning. It just wasn't working with me. By the end of the day, I just feel like I have two eyes like two pee holes in the snow. And I know it's just an hour or two difference. And I wasn't able to get nearly the sleep than I want. I woke up at one this morning for some reason.

I don't know why. Maybe I'm going to start drinking more heavily and get a better night's sleep. But I can't help but see that all of this fake time shifting around is not a good thing. And then I noticed that, in fact, I was clued in on this by a Facebook listener yesterday who ended up posting on this and said that there is a new proposal for the Daylight Act of 2020. And it was introduced by Representative Greg Stubb, Congressman Stubb. He's a Republican from Florida earlier this month. And what it would do is split the difference. Split the difference from where clocks are right now.

Instead of always staying on standard time or always staying on daylight saving time, you'd go in between. Does that sound good to you? Does that sound good compromise? So we'll take care of the people that for some reason like to have it light at 1030 at night or almost light. So everybody gets kind of a half loaf. Do you think that that would be a good solution? I don't know. In my particular job, I think it would be bad in my particular job.

And I'm talking about running a talk radio station because I'm thinking about all of the talk shows that would then be. a half hour out of sync with the rest of the world. You know, at least when you are right now, the top of the hour is the top of the hour. You know, top of the hour here in Southern Oregon is the same as the top of the hour in New York City. But then it could be, you know, under this plan, the top of the hour for us would be 30 minutes off kilter from the rest of the world. I don't know if that works, right? We'd be saying it's 12 o'clock here at 12 noon. and then it would be like 1130, everywhere else, or 1230, you know, somewhere else, that kind of thing.

I don't know if that necessarily works. I appreciate someone being creative about that, do you think? But I think that's a no win. Just pick either the standard time or the daylight saving time. I would prefer the standard time because it says standard, and I'm a good guy when it comes to standards. That's what I would say. Standard time, standard time only.

That's right. Yep, we'll still have that situation where it's, you know, 4.30 and it's dark in the wintertime, and that's the way it should be. And then the sun goes down at 8 even in the summertime. That's what I say. All right, all right. Now, this is a completely different subject that I was thinking about this morning, too, because I was reading more about initiative petition 28. IP28 is a big deal. This is the one that's called the People for the Elimination of Animal Crueliority.

exemptions. That's the anti-meat, anti-animal husbandry, you know, no animal husbandry, no breeding the cows, no, no cow milk, no cheese, no milk, no beef, no chicken, because, you know, you're just not allowed to do anything that would involve the death of an animal. And I know that a lot of people are saying, well, there is absolutely no way that this would pass. Do you agree? I don't. I think as time goes on, on and on, in the state of Oregon, I've discovered that when it comes to initiative petitions, ballot measures, Oregonians will vote for amazingly crazy, stupid stuff. Measure 110, measure 114, measure 113,

classic examples. Oh, all you have to do is sell it the right way. This is probably going to be on the ballot this year. All right? It'll be on the ballot this year. We're going to get a chance to vote on this. And yeah, you might think that this is silly, but they say it won't pass. Even the supporters say it won't pass, but it's about conditioning.

But I have to tell you, and this is where I'm going to counter and actually agree with the animal rights people. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a better aspect of animal cruelty and being careful and thinking about the animals. I think that we have the right and the duty to treat the animals under our dominion with as much kindness as possible. And I'll give you an example that has always bugged me. And I don't know if this bugs you or not, but I'm going to give you my, this is a pebble in my shoe this morning. I lose control of my life at home and Linda watches cooking shows all the time because she's a big cooker.

You know that big chef. She loves this sort of stuff. She's always in on the chef shows. And it bugs us both when you see chefs that will take out, let's say a lobster or a crawfish, something like that. The fish and the skillet is

just hot. They pour the oil in it. And they dump the clams or they dump the crayfish or they dump the lobsters in alive. Or even if they are alive, or still alive, they just start tearing the legs off. That just hits me at a real level of we're not respecting. We're not respecting the life of the critter. We're not dispatching the critter kindly in my view.

I know some people will say, well, they don't feel pain. do we really know that? I don't know. It's that kind of stuff to me that gives the animal rights wackos an in, I think, in the culture. So anyway, do you think we could do better? Do you think we could do better and actually had the animal rights whackos off at the past

so that they don't actually just take away meat entirely and do all those kind of things? What could we do a little bit better? And I think just that one example of just rip and stuff, stuff apart as it's still alive, throwing it in the pot. It really bugs me. In fact, Harry and David used to ship pots of, well, like a crab boil or something like that. And they would ship that out of the Medford stores here. They'd ship it out and they would, you know, there'd be the tomatoes, the corn, and the crabs and lobster or whatever it is, the boil. And they're all alive in there.

You're not supposed to kill them. You just light the fire and off you go. I think we can do better, can't we? 7705633. There we go. A couple of pebbles in my shoe this morning, and you're on the Bill Meyer show. Let's go to the call. 770KMED.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Brian, how are you doing this morning? What's the topic on your mind? IP 28. This is so bizarre. You know, I don't know what's truthful about this and what's not,

but I've heard a lot about this. And you will not be able to buy or sell any meat products in the state of Oregon if this passes. I believe that is the, that would appear to be, well, I don't know if it's about being able to buy the meat. Well, no, I take that back because they have a part of this bill. I have it in front of me here. There's a part of this, Brian. I think you're right, because there's a part of this which would, in which they would have this agenda to wean people off them and help people still

have food to eat. So I think you're right. Yeah, you wouldn't even be allowed to buy it here. Well, you know, I don't trust a lot of these big stores when you buy a pound of hamburger of the chemicals that are put in it. So what I do is I buy a half a cow, all re-slaughtered, and you can ask them to make so many pounds of hamburger. Oh, yeah, a lot of people do that. Yeah. Whatever. And, you know, I go up to a rancher up here in Murphy. Anyway, this will all stop, and you will not be able to, like my neighbor, raises street cattle, and they butcher them one at a time during the year. So they have a freezer full of meat.

You won't be able to do that. Well, technically you would not be able to do that. I think, honestly, I think if they were to somehow get that passed like they did with Measure 114, with that just most infinitesimal amount of a victory side of it, I would see us altering into outlaws, wouldn't you? Yes. You know, I was told that this is not going to pass, but what they're trying to do is they're trying to get us.

So every couple of years, they'll put out another bill similar to this. Well, yeah, they chip away at it. They chip away at the resistance to things like that. Now, the question is, though, are there things we could actually do to truly improve our treatment of animals? some cases without going to the nonsense of an IP 28. Yes, I do believe that. I think there is a lot of torture towards the way some people deal with animals like you were talking about with crabs and the king crabs. They just rip them apart alive and throw them in boiling water. And it's just,

I don't know. I, you know, I think that there could be a lot more done as far as the rules and regulations of how, you know, you treat animals like that. But a friend of my has got 25 years taking people on fishing guides down the Rogue River. This would completely destroy his business. Oh, no, he could go down the Rogue River. He could look at the fish. It'll be a fish watch. All right, thanks, Brian.

I appreciate the call. 770KMED on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Hello. Good morning. Hi, who's this?

Hi, this is John in Medford. John, what are you thinking this morning? what you want to bite on. Hey, the pebble in my shoe is fuel prices. So we're constantly told since President Trump has, you know, been in office for a year that we're producing all the oil we need within the United States. And we're actually exporting fuel. So why, if there's this problem in the Middle East, why is that affecting our fuel prices? There's no fuel shortage in the United States. No, there's no shortage of it, just a shortage at whatever price. It is a global commodity. When it's a global commodity, if the price of the oil zooms to 120, everybody charges that

120. That's just the way it goes. It's kind of like if even, let's say that we grew or that we mined all the gold that we wanted to buy in our stores. And we were to mine gold and we could mine gold and the gold was only worth 500 bucks. Well, the rest of the world still says that that gold is worth $5,180 at this moment, okay? That's just the way it goes in the market. Yeah, but it just doesn't make any sense. Our oil companies are not having to pay a higher price for oil of what they're producing right now.

No, but they can take that oil and sell it at that much higher price. So everybody just agrees to, well, you have to buy this if you're going to do it. And it is a global commodity priced in dollars, and that's just the way it is. is. Unless you're just going to be a complete embargo and you're just doing everything within the market and then you have export controls and you're not allowed to sell oil. And then, of course, people would squeak on that. And then they would say that we were going into a fascistic direction. So you kind of see what I'm getting on here? You know, it's a free market. Yeah. Yeah, I sort of get that. But, you know, they've jacked up the prices. So who's getting all this additional profit now

that's coming off the pump price? Because it's not costing the oil company. any more money to produce that fuel for us, we're getting ripped off. Well, the crude oil going into the oil refinery is costing more right now at the moment. Now, it's not 120. It was only that 119 for just a short time yesterday, but it's still considerably higher than it was. We're at about the 89, 90, you know, kind of bouncing around with that right now. And it's not a direct relationship. You know, if you double the price of oil, it's not like the price of gas doubles, but it does,

it does, you know, increase the costs. And once you're paying more for the raw material, you have to charge more for the finished material so that way you can buy more of the raw material later. It's just kind of the way that works. I know it sounds weird, but that's the truth of it. 652. Hi, KMED. Good morning. Who's this? Bill, it's Brad. Good morning to you. Good morning to the oil winning Mr. Realmeyer.

Good morning. Brad, how are you? Bill, here's an interesting way. I got a question for you. So could this possibly be the ideological counterpoint to the conservative or the normal people-led anti-tax referendum in this way? Okay. Let's just pretend that we're cynical for a minute. We know that certain hot-button issues bring a certain demographic out. For instance, our Democrat friends in the legislature moved heaven and earth to do what? to move the referendum that was clearly set by the people that signed the initiative.

Yeah, move it from November to May. Yeah. Right, right. And why? What are they scared of? They are scared of all of the people. They're scared of the ideology that would cause a turnout for a lot of people that they don't want to turn out in that deal.

So jumping ahead, then, are you saying that the reason they do the IP 28 is to get the left-wing hard wackos out? Well, Bill, ask yourself, what is the Democratic? demographic that's likely to turn out for IP 28 and would turning out that that demographic, would that be helpful to the progressive left in Oregon? Yeah, it could be because you think I would look at the same people that are doing this as the same type of people that join Socan and inculcate their kids into marching out on stolen land kind of nonsense and there's no such thing as illegal people.

I would think it all kind of similar travelers, right? Yeah. So if you wanted an issue that was really, really guaranteed to bring out that demographic, you know, this looks absolutely insane and crazy to most normal people, but if you're looking for an issue that's really good to turn out the hard left part of your electorate, you know, maybe this is the right cheese for that trap. Yeah, it could be. Now, would you agree with me, though, that there are things we could do a little better than we do right now? And we could do this voluntarily without having to pass laws?

Well, I'm a big believer The government that governs least governs best Oh, I agree wholeheartedly But what I'm saying is that do you think we could do better When it comes to our treatment of animals Like I was talking about the tearing apart of stuff And you know, just in other words, not killing things Before we eat them, et cetera, et cetera

That's just a minor aspect of it But could we do better? And you don't need a government law You know, to do this But you can just do it through Through public pressure, I would say Bill, I think we've got a lot bigger problems to worry about than what we do with food and whatnot. I think we've got a whole other things that we can spend our time and money on it to fix.

I don't think this is one that needs to be fixed. Well, you know, I disagree with you. Here's why. The same kind of thing, kind of folks on the right, let's say that we come out there on the right and say we don't like crabs and animals and all sorts of other things being torn apart and eating alive, et cetera, et cetera, that we want things to be dispatched, right? We want to be kind. I think that actually underpins a lot of the pro-life people, the Oregon right to life people. Yeah. So I'll give you an example.

First of all, I will agree with you that being kind is one of the most important. We should all be kind. We should be kind to our neighbors. We should be kind to our neighbors. We should be kind. We should be exercising kindness and everything that we think and do. I agree the 100% on that. But let me give me an example.

There's a certain group of people that eat dogs. I could no more eat dog meat than I could, you know, when I think a dog is just something that I could never do. Same thing with horses. I love horses. For some reason, it's okay for me to eat a hamburger. For some reason. For other people, they're looking at you at you like you're crazy, right? I know.

Yeah. I know. But, you know, for some reason, I mean, the idea of, I've just had so many dogs that I love so much, the idea that I get every dog is not going to happen. But there's other people, and they think it's great. All right. Brad, thanks for the call. 7-7-0KM-ED. It's pebble in your shoe Tuesday and just kind of chewing around on some of the deals. Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. This is my name. Dave.

Yes, Dave. So I kind of got some bad news and good news on opening Lakeview Road. Oh, yeah? Friday I went in and did some research on finding my right-of-way rights, and I couldn't find them. I couldn't find rights for the damn people for Lakeview Road. and then they said that I'd have to do a title search. Well, yesterday I called Jesse Harris, my county... Yeah, I appreciate. Hey, Dave, I'm losing yourself a bit.

Put that in an email. We'll talk about it, okay? Yeah, you're just cutting in and out a bit here. A little saws mill type of a sound on that. I'm sorry about that. I'll let you go. Hi, good morning. KM.D., who's this?

Welcome. Yeah, Ron Grouse Pass. Yeah, Ron. Go ahead. We have been given the greatest gift in the world by having our founding fathers give us the Constitution, the Bill rights, and the Declaration of Independence. We are now being tested by being treated like the Wuhan Lab of the world. They're trying to change our system. Our system is not to be changed.

I think our system is here for us to live by and to be the most free nation in the world. And we don't need all these people testing us and causing us to be – put into different groups to fight each other. Okay. Now, the thing is, though, to your point, though, you said that we were given the system, the system was never designed to be in Amber. We could change it if enough people wanted to, though. You do recall that with the founding fathers.

They said that about us. It's a republic if you can keep it. Yes, but the founders also said that the Constitution should not be changed based upon transient reasons. Agreed. Thanks for the call. Let me go to the next line here on Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday. Hi, good morning. James.

Hi, James. Yeah, closed down the food pantry at Bridgeview Church. Yeah, in Cave Junction, right? Right. And it's been going on for three years with no problems, nobody said anything about it. Well, I was covering that story in the news report last week. And the reason that they supposedly shut down that agreement with the Josephine County Food Bank is that the church was not filling out the paperwork in a timely fashion.

That's how the story was presented, at least. Well, a thing on it, some of the people were saying it was because some of the workers beforehand would go in and pray before they started working there. And then, because nothing was said for three years, a guy would show up with his good talk. people, a guy gave away kittens there, clubbing free eggs. So I ended up being a really nice event here. Are you implying, though, that because of the religious aspects of some of the people there that the food bank backed away, you think it's that?

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. Really? And they, like they sponsor a movie night with a free dinner. And I think because it's associated with the church, the food house. to pray, and that was never brought up about it. They never prayed outside or anything like that. It was just some of the workers got together and prayed beforehand, and I guess whoever the new people are that are running the food pantry in Josephine County were

somebody got upset because it's a church. Huh. That's, you know, if that's true, that is rather disturbing. Maybe if somebody could put a little bit of meat on that bone. And it's an interesting theory. I don't know if I can prove that right now, but it, gosh, if it is the way you describe it, that could be a problem, huh? Right. People were talking and getting together and a really good event.

I hope this is not one of those things where the people running the food banks want you to sacrifice a sheep or something to show your, you know, your allegiance to Satan in order to get your food. I'm just kidding, folks. I'm being really sarcastic, okay, please. Right. All right. Let me know, okay. 770K media. I'll grab one more call before the rest of the news.

Hi, good morning. Who says? Hello. Hey, Bill. Hi. Yeah, Steven Sunny Valley. Hi, Steve. What's going on with you today?

Oh, I started watching these shows with my wife alone, where they drop these people off, and then they have to survive. Whoever survives the longest gets a big prize. And they get real hungry. and they start eating anything that they can find. And they're walking along the beach and they find a lobster and they eat it. And they get really sick and have to get hauled out of there because they don't know how long it's been dead.

Oh. Lobster goes bad very quickly. Most seafood does. When you're working in the belly of a 767, it smells like rotten fish because they haul a lot of salmon out of Alaska in those things. Sure. And the fish juice gets everywhere. So maybe there's a reason why they're putting these crustaceans in the pot alive. Well, I'm not, and I would agree.

I thought about that too, but you could just as easily cut the head or pith. I think they call it pithing, which you like, you take the lobster and you take the needle and you dispatch them by poking the needle in a certain spot. That's kind of what I'm, when you're getting ready to cook. is what I thought. Okay. Where is the brain in a lobster? I mean, some of these crustaceans have three different nodules of nerves that control different things. Which one is the one that matters?

I think boiling water is a pretty good way to go. And the hissing you were hearing is hot air escaping through the crust. They're not screaming. No, I wasn't making that claim, either, by the way. So, but, you know, we do a lot of things and we don't know why. My grandmother had a recipe for Easter ham. First you take the ham and you cut it in half, says the recipe. And everybody, why do you cut it in?

Well, because her pan didn't fit a whole hand. I know that story. I remember that story. Yeah. So we need to kind of investigate the reasons why we're doing things and then let everybody do their own thing. The last thing we need is somebody's nosy neighbor telling you you're doing it wrong. Well, but the thing is, I was never, I'm okay with noisy neighbors, things. That's like what society is, you know, we're...

Well, the society that is half Jewish and half Islamic, one of them says you slit the throat, the other says you pierce it through the heart, and neither one likes pigs, and one hates dogs, and now England has 47 breeds of dogs. They're debating on not allowing anymore. Yeah, I remember that story. Interesting. Point well taken. Thanks for the call, Steve.

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