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Episode Date: March 11, 2025Morning news starts out and we catch up with rock and roll hall of famer DION, a new memoir out ROCK AND ROLL PHILOSOPHER. Other news, Pebble in your shoe Tuesday, Prov Nurse tells me the ONA screwed ...over the Medford nurses.
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and we're going to have a little look back at 630 or so. Dion,
the legendary Dion, of course, he is Dion on the Belmonts, you know, this guy. A lot of people
forget just how huge and what a transitionary force that Dion was between the Big Ben era
and the rock and roll era and millions of singles sold back in the late 50s early 60s you
know the wanderer and teenager in love and run around Sue things like that and
I remember listening to to a lot of this when I was a little kid because I've
listened to my mom's records and that was an artist of her heart and then he
ended up kind of growing up over time I, he was just a teenager when he was, you know,
a rock and roll star at that time. He's 85 and still working. 85 years old. It's just,
it just astounds me. And from the interviews I was looking at, watching before, over the
last couple of days before I got a chance to talk to him at 6.30, still pretty sharp.
And he has a memoir, The Rock and Roll Philosopher, which is out there, which is quite an interesting
kind of like storytelling going on.
He was always really big into the storytelling.
And I first really heard of Dion in the late 60s when I was still a pretty young boy at
that point when Abraham, Martin, and John came out. You know, the song about Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, and of course, assassination
of Martin Luther King Jr.
And that's when I heard more about it.
That was more of his maturing phase.
And then he really got into a lot of blues, got into heroin, unfortunately, too, from
the sounds of it.
I don't have to ask him about that.
And then ended up, well, ended up getting out of that through a prayer and faith, apparently.
And I'll have a little talk with him. I was reading about that in the book, and we'll talk with him for a few minutes.
And it's not very often to get a chance to talk to a rock and roll Hall of Fame member and like I said a lot of people just may have forgotten
over the years especially in our short attention span culture these days just
how massive back in the days when you know early days of broadcast radio and
everything just how huge groups like that were and how they moved the needles and the tens of thousands of screaming teenagers at the big concerts that they would have in
the day.
In fact, I was looking in the book and there was, what was it, the Winter Rock and Roll
Tour?
I think that's the name of it though, but Dion ended up performing at some of the same shows
that the Big Bopper and Buddy Holly was performing on before they ended up dying. I guess they died
in that plane crash, as we know back in the day, the day the music died. And of course Dion was not
part of the tour at that point when they were in New York it was. Really interesting stories and
so we hope to get a bend his ear for a couple of minutes at 6 30 or so. Okay so we have that coming
up. Great story that was profiled in the Rogue Valley Times. There's just so much miserable news
and drama and you wake up in the morning, in my job, and sometimes it's
like, could you just wake up and have everything working okay?
Could you just wake up in the morning and look through the news and, hey, things are
good?
Well, there was one of those days in which things went bad and then it went good, really
good.
It was last Thursday.
Buffy Pollock writes this story, and it's well worth checking this out today about Ted Schatz. He's a contractor, was pulling a load of concrete down I-5
one o'clock Thursday afternoon. This was last week. And then he was suffering a
heart attack. Didn't know it at that time, but he had the widow maker type of heart
attack in which the main artery, which is sending blood to the left side of the
heart becomes completely blocked and he had no idea that he was going to be
lying in the middle of the freeway and what happened there just seemed to
be a whole bunch of first responders that just happened to be on the freeway
at that time behind him and he said by the time it was on the freeway at that time, behind him.
And he said, by the time I was on the freeway, it was too late to get off.
So he was on the viaduct.
I couldn't really pull over.
So I went as far as I could trying to keep going.
And behind shots, talent resident and registered nurse Michelle McGregor noticed the brake
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And McGregor owns the Senior Care Agency Advanced Care Life Services.
She was headed to work a few hours later than her usual 9 a.m.
And you think about some of the synchronicity that some of the ways that some people get
saved some days.
And I think that this ended up being one of those kind of stories.
And she said, I thought, oh, wow, maybe someone was hit, there was a hazard in the road. So his truck was stopped and angled and kind of blocking
everything. And so the Gregor and two men who had stopped to try to help to try shots
driver door, which was locked, and then they got through the cab through the passenger
side, he was unresponsive. And so they knew he was in trouble because he was turning gray.
And so they got him out, and over the next six, seven minutes, McGregor ended up, along
with a lot of other people, ended up saving Shaw's life.
And McGregor crediting the number of Good Samaritans who stopped to help, including
an Asante nurse practitioner, Kelly Dale, another unidentified doctor,
got out of his car, came up there and was helping out.
There was a critical care unit nurse and caregiver, Melissa Mowry.
Many people who stopped had trauma bags with life-saving equipment in their personal vehicles
and they all kind of jumped in the situation.
And then on top of that, you had Jackson County Fire
District 5 Division Chief Aaron Bustard was near, and he got there at the crucial five-minute
mark to give him a shock from the defib that he kept in his rig. Amazing story. And so,
what could have been just a tragic day, contractor Ted Schatz lives today to Hallmore Concrete.
I just love stories like that.
And it was a lot of other people that ended up all getting together and showing how good
people are.
And with all the bad news you have these days.
I'm sorry about that.
It kind of tears me up a little bit, but I love that kind of a story.
I just do.
Anyway, a little postscript of this, and I'm hoping to maybe get them on the show and
get the people involved in this sometime, maybe McGregor and Schatz here, that after
Schatz Rescue, they're planning to buy defibrillators for company vehicles.
They want to fundraise to buy defibs for local
law enforcement vehicles. And additional info is going to be posted to her
company's page. I think that's just wonderful news. I mean having some of
those portable defibs so that you don't have to be the pro just be able to put
it on someone and kachunk and off they go. Saving a number of lives here. I think
that's great. Good story. Good story. Just loving
that kind of story. This is the Bill Meyer Show. I wish we'd have more stories like
that. I know it's Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, but you can bring it back to reality if you
want. And then we have a lot of other stories here too coming up.
Let me tell you who else we have on the way here.
Christine Menendez is a Bitcoin expert. Now there is now a, well at least
according to an executive order, Trump administration is going for a strategic,
not a Bitcoin reserve, a strategic cryptocurrency reserve.
Cryptocurrency reserve.
And I'm kind of not getting this.
I'll be the first to admit I don't really get this
because I'm looking at the price of Bitcoin.
The other week was $109,000 and now it's like 69,
it's below 70,000 right now.
And normally when I think of strategic reserves, I think of things which are going to be of
value and importance no matter what.
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in the entire world agrees upon because of its long history.
I'm not sure about a strategic reserve of what to me look like speculative assets that
can go from $109,000 to $69,000 in a matter of a few days.
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bitcoin when it was 15 cents, you know, maybe I'd be saying, hey, let's have it as a strategic
reserve too. I don't know. But so we'll talk with her about it. She's a bitcoin expert and
was one of the early adopters to this. And we'll talk about the executive order and all that other
stuff. We'll also catch up on some local state politics where it's headed here with former Josephine
County Commissioner and former state Senator Herman Baerchiger.
We always have good talk.
And we have current Jackson County, rather, pardon me, I still have a little bit of that,
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from D.C.
A lot of interesting stuff going on there with all the various counties.
How are they going to be dealing with the next few years of the United States government,
especially looking to trim spending and other things?
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but we have a continuing resolution
which is up by and i guess it looks like it's going to be possibly voted on today
in other words it's uh... keeping the spending as it is
lot of conservatives of course are upset about this
because uh... why don't i know that know the one one is the Kentucky.
The Kentucky representative is not real happy about this.
He looks like he's the one that's going to be joining Hikim Jeffries and voting against
it.
But the way it's being presented out there is that we have to keep the spending sort
of locked in there and there will be some cuts in there, but for the most part you have
to keep sort of the status quo because otherwise on the 14th the government shuts down its own money again you know it's that's
that same sort of thing this kabuki theater and we knew we were coming up with this with this
march deadline and what are the democrats doing putting ads out that are, you know, saying, hey, call Cliff Bents and talk about how cowardly he is.
And then he needs to put the money back into Medicaid
and all the rest of this stuff.
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It's not affordable, Can't do it all. You have to keep the neediest on the Oregon Health Plan.
At some point, people are going to have to start trying to take care of
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Pebble in your shoe Tuesday Dave. You got a pebble. Go ahead. Let's hear it. Yeah, I have a pebble
and I have something good I'll talk about afterwards. Okay, great. My pebble in my shoe is the auto pin
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He wasn't all there.
Yeah, he was not an entirely functional president.
I will agree with you on that.
So I guess, do you think anything will come of this though?
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You notice that?
Well, it's because nobody will do anything about it. There's 10 powers that can do anything.
We'll see if Bondi does anything about it. I don't think she will. But the good thing
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It's kind of like the Oregon health plan, except they call it Medi-Cal. It's covering the stuff
that Medicare doesn't cover. Okay, well that's some good news. You know, as long as the money keeps coming in, right? Right.
Okay, that's the only caveat.
Dave, I just have a suggestion for you and anybody else.
Stay healthy, okay?
Alright, just stay healthy.
I'm praying for you on that, alright?
628, appreciate the call. We'll catch up on a quick news.
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631, it's not every day we get to talk to a legend is what I was trying to say.
We're going to bring the legend on now. The legendary Dion, Rock and Roll Hall of Famer.
Millions of records sold and really the bridge between the big band era and the
the big rock and roll era here too. Dion and the Belmonts. Dion, it's a pleasure having you on.
Welcome to the show, sir.
Well, it's a joy to be with you.
Indeed it is.
Nice to have me.
You know, I gotta tell you,
I have great memories of you too,
because back when I was a kid, I was given,
now I know I'm a few years younger than you,
just a little bit,
but I would always listen to my mom's 45s,
and then for my ninth birthday birthday I was given like a Dick
Clark 20 years of rock and roll had run around Sue on it. I played that album to death. My mother's
name middle name was Sue and so I said okay yeah and so I just played that to death got to know
all of your other hits too Abraham Martin and John and everything kind of in the later period
gets to Abraham, Martin, and John and everything kind of in the later period.
And it's you're still doing it and you're still vibrant in doing it. What is your secret, you think, at this point?
You know, I don't know.
I feel like I'm under the spout where the glory comes out.
You know, I was telling them I'm under the wellspring of creativity.
All I know is I'm very grateful.
I've been clean and sober for 57 years,
so I think that has something to do with it. And I was doing an interview with Dave Marsh up at the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. He said, Deion, you're the only guy from the fifties who's still creative
and relevant. And I argued with him and lost. And I came home and I told my wife I said, do you know
what Dave Marsh said?
Who's Dave Marsh?
I said, he's the great, you know, Rolling Stone writer in the, in the, in the, in its
peak era.
I said, he said this and she said, well, what are you going to do about it?
He was just making a statement.
She turned it into a dare.
I wrote 40 of the best songs I've ever written in the last five years.
I made these three blues albums and they all went to number one on the blues charts.
I was delighted with that.
I had a lot of friends join me like Paul Simon and Bruce Springsteen and Eric Clapton and Peter Frampton.
In fact, Clapton wrote the forward to your book here, you know, the Rock and Roll Philosopher
book, which is great.
I mean, how many people get that here, Dion?
It shows your...
I know.
He's been a great friend.
He's just a great guy.
He's a giver, you know, and we're good friends. We have a great guy. He's a giver. And we're good friends.
We have a lot in common.
A lot in common.
We love the blues.
And I started out with Jimmy Reed and he knows we've got the same roots.
Hey, Dion, I wanted to ask you about the very early time when you're with the Belmonts,
you joined the Belmonts.
Now, essentially, the Belmont area, from what I understand, was like the Italian ghetto.
So was the rock and roll singing
and the writing the way out for you?
Was that it?
Well, I put these three guys together
and we called ourselves the Dion and the Belmonts.
But you know, at that time in the 50s,
we didn't have instruments.
I got a guitar because I wanted to transmit
some of the feeling that I got from these records I was hearing as a kid. I heard Jimmy
Reid and Hank Williams and I wanted my friends to enjoy something. I wanted to transmit it.
And yeah, it was fun making music right on the street. It was like homemade music.
We could bang on cardboard boxes and beer bottles and do harmony. And we'd make up sounds,
like the sounds behind Runaround Sue and The Wanderer. We thought we were a horn
section. You know, we'd go down to the Apollo and we'd hear the band, you know, playing
like da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da.
And we, I'd come home and the guys would do that. Da da da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da
da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da You know, who would make sounds and make...
So it was like early rock and roll street music.
Yeah, do WAP, you know, that really, that basis of it.
Hey, you know, about those eras, you know, so many artists got ripped off by record companies
in the early days of rock and roll.
And I'm wondering how you were treated.
I remember you even complained that you, you know, weren't given writing credit for The Wanderer, right?
Well, let me put it this way.
I believe, I don't know if I've ever had an honest manager.
I don't think so.
I don't know.
I have great taste in people.
I tell you, I've had wonderful people around me
all my life and that's maybe one of the reasons why I'm still here,
relevant, creative, and doing well, and healthy.
But I've had managers, what could I tell you?
Thank God I know about forgiveness,
I could be free and not walk around with resentments
and stories and have to complain all my life, but I'm doing well.
So I don't think,
there's a lot of these guys in the business,
you know how it is.
So I do believe you a lot.
You know, there's horror stories all over the place.
Like it started with Jimmy Rogers who sang Honeycomb. It was real bad.
And Billy Joel got ripped off, and Paul Simon, and Leonard Cohen, and Randy Newman, and Tony
Orlando. Someone took everything. Some of these people you trust, you know, you have to just be very,
very attentive and be present and make sure, you know...
Yeah, you always had to be, well, hiring good people, right?
You had talked about being clean and sober for some 57 years, but heroin was a big part
for a while. And I'm kind of curious, did the heroin come from hanging out with the blues artists?
That was a big part of the culture there for a while.
Just curious.
Not really.
No?
It started, you know, when I was young, I started, I don't know, I just couldn't handle
my emotions.
It came into my neighborhood.
I didn't know any blues artists or anything.
Okay.
In fact, the only blues artist I knew was Willie Green,
who was a janitor of one of the tenement buildings, and he had overcome all that stuff
and was trying to help me. But it just grabbed me as a kid. It's progressive, and you dab in it,
and it just grabs you and it takes you down slowly.
It's not pretty.
And by the grace of God, I got out of it.
In fact, it was really faith that pulled you out, wasn't it?
That got you there?
Absolutely, yeah.
Yeah, I said it one night, somebody told me, you need a power grader.
You know, a sick mind can't cure a sick mind.
They said, you better ask for help, a power grader than yourself. I got on my knees, I said a prayer when I got up, I was changed
and I haven't had a drug or a drink since. So there you go.
All right. And still going strong. The legendary rock and roll hall of famer,
Dion, and he has a great book out. It's a wonderful read, great storytelling from many people
influenced by Dion and people that Dion was influenced by too.
It's called the Rock and Roll Philosopher. I'll put the information up on KMED.com and
look forward to hearing more from you. Still going. Thank you Dion. Great having you on the show.
Stay well Bill, thanks.
Thank you very much.
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642-770-5633. Great having you here this morning. I always kind of wonder when you're going to talk
to someone that you've never had a chance to talk to before like, you know, Dion. Is it going to work okay? Fortunately, he seemed to be pretty cool with it. Pretty cool. And I'm glad to hear that
it was early on that he got over the drug addiction. I don't know, maybe it's just something
about that, you know, living in the artist's world, right? Just seems to be the way it is.
This is the way you end up dealing with it. But it's kind of a take no prisoners sort of guy.
And I would imagine, though, that having been married to the same woman
for 61 years has been a help, a real rock in his life.
Anyway, we can talk about anything which happens to to be on your mind.
I ended up having a conversation with a Providence nurse who I'm going to have to
leave their name out. But I wanted to share something that this nurse told me here in just
a little bit and delve into the agreement. Now that the Providence nurses have been back to work
for a few days, the smoke has cleared, you know, everybody's written the contracts.
I want to share with you some thoughts from a nurse that is not real happy about what
happened.
In fact, the nurse is trying to get the union decertified.
And I have to keep their name out of this because otherwise they'll be attacked over,
you know, other union members may peck them to death.
But I'll share that with you here in the next few minutes.
643, let me go back to the phones.
It is Pebble in your Shoe Tuesday.
Hi, good morning.
Who's this?
Good morning, Bill.
This is Ann.
How are you?
I'm fine, Ann.
How are you, horse lady?
I'm just fine.
After listening to Dion, I'm of the same age group as he is.
I'm about three years younger than he is.
And you know, something I never hear mentioned is a DJ in Los Angeles.
His name was Wolfman Jack.
And if you have time, look into him.
He used to have a late night program and I lived up in Northern California and so I didn't get LA very often but
Once in a great while the atmosphere was correct and I could get him and I used to listen to him now
Were you listening to him on LA or was it a Mexican station?
I thought he was on the on a border station is how he was coming. I know where he was on
I know every once in a while because he had a very distinctive voice oh yeah and every and every once in a while I'd pick him up but I never I
never hear him mentioned anymore and he was a pretty popular DJ yeah he's he's
been gone for quite a few years here oh yeah and gosh I remember now my
introduction to Wolfman Jack was I think the American Graffiti movie because of course he starred you know in that or he played a
part in American Graffiti back in the day you know the early you know the early
George Lucas film remember that? I remember I remember because the the
the thing where the the chain pulled the rear axle out of the car...
Out of the police car, wasn't it?
Yeah.
It was done down in Petaluma, which was close to me.
It was only about 40 miles away.
You know, Anne, since you lived back in the day, that bridge between maybe the harder
rocking era and the big band era that late 50s early 60s
Kind of thing that was that was your era there. Do you think music meant more back in those days?
Than it does perhaps now
music was very very popular and
music actually
Music was so popular because there was no TV and there was no FM.
There was only AM radio.
That was it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I had a feeling that was part of it.
It's not like today where you can just do a few clicks of the mouse and then you bring
up somebody on Spotify or YouTube music, those sort of things, and you just get it.
It used to be, I remember that finding the song that I
liked in the record store was such a big deal because you couldn't always, it
wasn't guaranteed that you'd find it, you know, for one thing. And it was not cheap.
You know, for a little kid, you know, buying a single at, you know, 99 cents or
something, that 99 cents came pretty hard in those days.
Well, money was money in those days.
It was pretty interesting.
It was an interesting time to be a kid.
And I think because the music was harder to get and less easily distributed, we appreciated
it more than I think people can now.
I don't know.
And spend a lot of time on the radio.
Yeah, absolutely. That was it.
That was the linchpin. Thanks for the call, Ann. Great hearing from you. Let me go to the next
line here. It's Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, but we can talk about anything on your mind. Hi,
good morning. Who's this? Hey, this is Tony. Hey, Tony. What's going on with you? Hey, Bill. I'm
doing good. Hey, Pebble in My Shoe has been in there for quite some time. It's when we have
these government shutdowns, the government employees, they go home, do whatever they do,
but once it's over with, they get paid. This is if they had never left. Yeah, it's just an extra
paid vacation if that happens that way. That gets pretty irritating, doesn't it? Because
what's the point of having a government shutdown? Or what's the point of them even complaining about a government shutdown?
Oh, you're keeping needed services away from us if nobody gets hurt in the end.
This would seem like this would be right up Prince Ali to say, hey man, you're not getting
paid.
Stick around and we'll pay you.
If you're going to go home, you're not getting paid.
Well, it would be better at this point if there would not be a shutdown because,
given the way things are right now, Republicans are always blamed for the shutdown one way or the
other, even though the only way it would happen this time is if Democrats voted against the CR.
That's it. That's the only way it happens. Okay. All right, Tony. Hey,
good hearing from you. All righty. Thanks again. All right. Hey, that's it. That's the only way it happens. Okay? Yep. All right, Tony. Hey, good hearing from you. All righty? Thanks again.
All right. Hey, thanks, Bill.
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On Pebble in Your Shoe Tuesday, we can discuss whatever tends to be
irritating you a bit. I saved a nurse's pebble from the other week.
And for some reason, you know, sometimes you'll get a phone call
and you take some notes from people. And you just don't manage to get to the topic because other things are coming in.
People call and want to talk about different things.
But I wanted to make sure you heard what one Providence nurse was talking about.
And you know that everyone signed the contracts, everyone's back to work, I guess all is forgiven
and things are moving forward. Well, there is more than one
nurse who is actually really upset with the Oregon Nurses Association. And I
wanted to share with you what this, and I'm going to keep their name out of
this, this anonymous nurse had to say. And if there's anybody else perhaps in the
medical world that might be able to back up this nurse's story. I'd be
happy to hear from you on this one. But the bottom line is that according to
this anonymous nurse, in her opinion, the Oregon Nurses Association, the Union,
ended up using the Medford workers at the Medford Providence Hospital as leverage.
And that the Medford employees actually ended up getting screwed over by this agreement
as contrasted with the other hospitals, the other number 7 hospitals in the Providence system.
And the way she reported it to me,
said our contract had ended March 31st,
this was of last year,
and we had been offered a tentative agreement for May.
And remember, we talked about that last year,
you know, and how there was, you know,
quite a big, a bit of money that had been offered,
et cetera, et cetera, it looked like pretty good,
but it ended up being rejected.
And she says, of course, you know,
we realize you can't get everything that you want,
but what she says the Oregon Nurses Association did
was holding Medford hostage
because of combining them in with the other seven hospitals.
And that Medford could have had a much better deal.
A much better deal had the unionized workers down here not gone with the Oregon Nurses Association's plan
to tie their agreement to the other seven hospitals.
And the way she talked about it is that
the Union served itself. The Union served itself rather than serving the Union
membership. This is the claim. And this nurse who I ended up speaking with, you
know, the anonymous nurse, said that they're getting together with the Right
to Work Foundation, you know, the the Mark Mix people that I talked to yesterday, and they have a foundation in there, and
they would like to try to work at decertifying the Union for Providence
Medford. Now, I don't know if they're going to be successful at this, but she
laid it out for me that the Medford workers who remember had a plan offered to them back
in May, but then the union was saying, well, no, combine in the way.
This is just the way it's been related to me.
What I'm dealing with is hearsay for you.
What she's saying.
They've been offered a 10-event agreement for May, but then the nurses association says,
hey, let's get you in here along with the other seven hospitals.
So we had Medford workers working some 46 days without pay, and she said they had to
request funds every week, maybe from the union, you might get maybe $500 a week.
Many of them got a second job.
Many of them borrowed against retirement plans in order to keep the lights on while they were out on strike. And then afterwards, after the contract had been signed,
Medford only got a 75% retroactive pay increase. And so the union membership, when they were,
ended up doing all the math, they figured out that
they were $9,000 down from where they would have accepted the earlier agreement back in
May of last year.
But that the union needed Medford as part of being tied to all of the other ones. So Medford ended
up taking most of the pain of the Providence walkout and got less
retroactive pain because all the other hospitals were working at better
contracts and their contracts ended up expiring later because remember Medford's
contracts expired in March of 2024.
So I find that really interesting.
And I don't know if there are any other nurses
in the system that could concur,
or if they agree or disagree with what this
anonymous Providence nurse is all up to.
And I asked her, I said, is everything okay?
Is the work culture all right?
Because there's a part of me that wondered how this was going to go.
Because here it is, you're talking about how evil Providence is.
And she agreed with me though when I said one of the biggest challenges that we're
still looking at here is that Providence still loses money on providing medical care.
And a lot of people still don't get that.
As remember, the Oregon Nurses Association would send me propaganda all the time.
And by the way, I'm not saying that Providence is clean and the nurses are bad. I'm not saying that
at all. You know, everybody has a different point of view. I would go on here and I would say that
Providence loses money providing medical care.
And then people would say, no, you're telling an untruth, Bill.
No, no, it's true.
The only thing which keeps Providence able to stay open and provide care, it's not from
the money coming in from Oregon Health Plan or people who are on Medicare or other private
insurance because there is so much charity care, so much free care, so
much reduced cost care that gets provided these days, so much medical care that you
can't collect or else insurance is saying, well, we don't care if your procedure costs
$500, you're getting $350, that's it, take it or leave it, you know, kind of thing.
That is the way this world is functioning right now.
That the only thing that paid the bills, that pays the bills and kept the lights on there
is the fact that Providence has this multi-billion dollar investment fund.
So in other words, they have this investment fund which throws off interest income and
investment income and that ends up filling in the gaps in the money there.
So that way that they're able to stay in the black
instead of being in the red. But just providing medical care right now for Providence right now,
they lose money. They lose money on every patient that walks in there from the sounds of it. Now it
is getting better. It is getting better. But the nurse had been to that, oh yeah, yeah, we know that
reimbursements are low and we're not going to get everything that we want. But I do find it interesting that there is
some buyer's remorse to what is going on, what happened over at Providence-Medford,
and that some of the Medford nurses realizing that, hey, we were had and
essentially we were taking the pain so that nurses over at the other seven
Providence hospitals who were not in negotiation
and had later renewing contracts than what Medford did,
that Medford employees kind of got screwed
for nine, 10 grand apiece
when they actually ended up doing the math.
And then also looking back to people who, once again,
were borrowing against retirement, getting a second job while
they were in that strike period.
So I find that interesting because there wasn't a lot of this talk back during the strike
because everyone's just kind of lining up.
But now that the smoke has cleared, there might be a possibility that Oregon Nurses Association may be decertified,
because they're thinking now that the Oregon Nurses Association
served the Oregon Nurses Association rather than serving the Oregon Nurses.
I find that really interesting because that is not an uncommon experience for many unions.
That's why private sector unions have been having a tough time there for a while.
Now that may be changing.
There's talk that there is a balance of power shift going on between labor and industry right now.
And then getting back over to the labor side, especially with demographics,
reducing the number of workers available.
But anyway, I just wanted to kind of bring you in the room with what a Providence nurse was telling me
and actively involving and looking at decertifying the union for Medford.
So stay tuned. That could be a really interesting wrinkle in future labor negotiations here in southern Oregon.
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