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Episode Date: March 13, 2026

03-13-26_FRIDAY_7AM

This hour of the Bill Meyer Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausor drilling.com. And just like Rush used to do. Oh, he used to do it with Open Line Friday, but I just call it Find Your Phone Friday. Find your phone. Friday. Find your phone and call me 541-770KMED. My email at Billmeyer Show.com. David called yesterday from the Bay Area,

listener David, and he calls it every now and then, and we don't agree on a whole lot of things when it comes to politics because he's a Bay Area liberal. Good guy. You know, I've had conversations. And we didn't really have time to flesh out something that he had asked about. You know, he was talking about how we need to tax the rich. We need to tax the rich a lot more.

And that's really appealing. I mean, that sounds really good. You don't tax the other person and don't tax me. And I thought that I wanted to do a little bit. That's why I asked him, I said, well, David, do you know exactly as far as federal income tax, you know, what percentage of that the rich pay? And, you know, they already pay just a little less than half. We're talking about the top 1% of U.S. income earners already pay 40, maybe up the 45% of all the federal

income tax, almost half. And it's a pretty small amount of people, you know, the top 1%. And the point is, even if you, and this is the research I was reading, that even if you were to tax, if you were to take all the money, if you were to take all the money of the top 1%, it would pay for the federal government for about six to eight months. Now, that's just one time. Just one time. You couldn't just tax them this way all the time because they wouldn't, they earn that kind of money because you'd have the economic collapse and various other things. You just took all their money. But they're already paying about 40 to 45 percent.

So they're paying almost a little bit under half of all the money going into the federal government right now. But then what I was wondering is that, okay, well, what is their tax rate? What is their tax rate? So the top 1% of U.S. earners, and we're just going to call them, it's anybody that's making over about $700,000 a year. I wouldn't mind earning $700,000 a year. I mentioned you wouldn't either. Their actual federal income tax rate is about 25 to 27%.

Now, the bottom 50%, the typical income for people who are in the bottom half of income, you're really paying about 2 to 3%. Now, maybe not you. I'm talking about, like, you know, bottom 50% of people. So we really do kind of have a lopside. tax question. Now, there is something else, though, that I would love to be able to do some more research on, and that has to do with when you are super rich, when you are like the Bill Gates kind of rich, when you are the Mark Zuckerberg kind of rich, when you are the Elon Musk

kind of rich. What I would be curious to know is how much of wealth that we regular schmows, You know, every dollar that a regular schmoe like me or you, or most people, ends up earning, gets taxed somehow. We get taxed. But then, as you see with Bill and Hillary Clinton and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, the Foundation world kicks in there in which you end up taking, you know, you make this nonprofit, this nonprofit foundation that, of course, you pay yourself a salary out of that. and then you're able to get certain agendas pushed through the foundations. And this is a place where, you know, a lot of people, when you're super rich, well, that's the first thing you do. You set up a foundation. So this way you're able to hide it from the tax man.

And I would dare say that, you know, if you really wanted to have a fairer system of taxation, although taxation and fair, you just kind of like throw up in your mouth a little bit, you know, when you think about it, is that the whole nonprofit, the whole foundation world, the whole foundation deal is really a racket. Everybody knows it's a racket. And that's why when you get super rich, you have to do a foundation, right? And I would say go after that kind of stuff, but, boy, that would break a lot of elite rice spoles, wouldn't it? We can talk about that. And something else that I think is, I don't know if it's necessarily fair.

And I know if, you know, the difference between what they'll call earned income, because every dollar that I earn here at the radio station and gets taxed at the full thing, got to pay Social Security tax on it, got to pay the Medicare taxes, have to pay for the transit tax to the state of Oregon, you know, all the other bits and pieces of nonsense that makes up our so-called civil society. But you know, if you're, you know, landlord, you've got a bunch of apartments, apartment complexes and that income comes in, it's not taxed as income in the same way. It's taxed in a different way.

I know if you're a landlord, you probably like it that way. But why is it that passive income should be treated differently than standard income? I've never quite understood that. Yeah, I know it's about trying to attract capital. But there are all sorts of things we can talk about. But what I was just mentioning, though, is that I don't think David was on the mark when he was saying, hey, all you have to do is tax the rich. If you were just going to tax the rich and take everything they got,

like Washington ends up enacting a gas, not gas tax, a wealth tax here recently. And the governor signed it in the state of Washington. It's like, yeah, capital will go where it's treated better. Do we treat capital too well maybe? Maybe we could have that conversation. But do you want to completely screw capital? No, I don't think you do.

You want to do that either? A little more balance. But the bottom 50% aren't. paying nearly as much of the rate as the rich are. 770K-M-E-D. I just wanted to kind of put a few numbers on that. What's on your mind? Go to the phones.

Hi, good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. This is Vicki from the Applegatee. Mickey, what's on your mind today this Friday? Go ahead. Well, first of all, I'd like to wish my husband.

Happy anniversary. It's our anniversary today. Oh, good. How many years? 33, married 38 together. Good for you. Glad to hear it. And second of all, I totally agree with you on the foundations and the nonprofits.

It's like one of the biggest loopholes they have for the rich. And not only that, but they, like, deduct everything, like everything. And the normal person, they go by our gross income, which they should go by the net. I don't know why they go with the gross because you never get that much money anyway. So I totally agree with you with the foundation and the nonprofit. I think that they should have to pay their share taxes. And frankly, the other problem with that here with foundations is that foundations are usually there to push a specific agenda and usually a politicized agenda in one form or another.

Clinton Foundation, certainly part of that, right? Oh, exactly. And they get donations and they get people supporting. And really what they're supporting is those people's pockets. Pretty much. and it's a bit of a racket. I know other people will squeeze. Well, look at the grants that were able to dole out.

Well, I kind of look at the grants that are doled out as part of these are the politicized thumbs that get put on the scale. And, well, especially out here in the blue world, the scales are usually pushed in one direction in one direction only. Appreciate your call. 770KMED. Hi, good morning. This is Bill. Who's this? Welcome.

This is Minor Dave. Yes, Dave. This morning I got a big news update that Donald Trump signed the Defense Produge, Emergency Defense Production Act for drilling oil off the coast of California, and it bypasses all state laws. Now, are you sure that wasn't? No, no, no, no. Are you sure about that because that was an executive order from last year? This is It's finally coming to because they're starting the production

Oh, okay, well, good Right, and it bypasses California a lot And by the way, they're going to have to build some refineries too And or reopen them And they have to make it to the standard Of the federal government's gasoline, not California's. Well, I will believe that this is happening when I see the oil flowing and the gas flowing out of the California refineries.

But good luck on that. Okay. All right. Bye. Okay, bye. 7705-633. Oh, by the way, another Trump news. This came from Reverend David. By the way, thank you, David, for popping this in. Iran-Fatwa fundraiser to kill Donald Trump raises over $40 million. What is it?

Like a go-fundmyjihad.com. But yeah, the Yeah, this is a deal. The Grand Ayatollah Nasir Makaram Shirazi Issues of Fatwa declaring that anyone who threatens the Iranian Supreme Leader is an enemy of God. That was interpreted as a threat against Trump

and, of course, Netanyahu. But what they're doing, apparently, it has received so far $40,286,000. This, according to Newsweek, which, David, I didn't even know, still existed. But thank you very much. So I don't know how you find that, but

needless to say, hey, you have to wonder, did the two dead dirtbags or they affiliated with is it, go fund my jihad.com? I don't know. What could go wrong with having such individuals within the country? Yes, I know you're tired and you're... Yeah, both of them naturalized citizens. And this is why I love it when I hear all the hosts out there going, well, I love legal immigration.

That's what a conservative is supposed to do, right? A conservative is supposed to say, no, it's only illegal immigration that we don't like that. Legal immigration, boy, bring them all. Bring them all in. Okay. And then if you don't want to bring in everybody. Oh, that's the other thing that the big national talk show hosts are all about, or not isolationist.

Well, okay. Since, I just don't get this. the way that being an isolationist so-called. In other words, being an isolationist means you don't want to get involved in every overseas conflict in the world and you don't want to be the world's policeman. But I know that's bad. You're a very bad

person if you want to be that way. But anyway, hi, K&D. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Hey, Billis. Wild Salmon. Wild Salmon. What's on your mind today? What's going on? Okay, I went through training as a financial advisor back in 1998.

Yeah, you'd mention that before. And what learn on that? Well, one of the big pushes is that the major brokerage firms really push the charitable foundations. They're legal in a couple of states. I think it's North Dakota and Delaware. And the brokerage firms get to manage all those assets, and they get to charge a fee to do that. So it's a huge source of revenue for the major banks. And would you agree with me, though, that essentially it's a a rich person's racket. Oh, absolutely. You've got to have, you know, $30 million to really make it work out. And, you know, you get to fund your whole family's, you know, existence by doing it,

because you can hire people as managers and this and that for the foundation. So, so yes. And the other side to that is with inflation being what it has been over the last 14 or 15 years, I've lost 24% of my purchasing power had I not been invested in real assets. And real assets in terms of retirement are things that produce income. There's just two things, something that cost you money and something that makes you money, money as far as the income goes. So all of the stuff that's gone on and the inflation that's happened is devastating to older people.

and I would kind of bring that back to Chad McCormass and his thing with older people in the tiny homes that they're building. These people have been bypassed because they had a fair amount of Social Security 15, 20 years ago, and now they can't even rent an apartment with it. And what you well know, what you understand, is Social Security will go up according to the CPI. Who creates the CPI? Yeah, the federal go. Vermont. It's a pittance.

I mean, it doesn't even pay for the increase in Medicare cost. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know a lot of seniors that are experiencing that. It's like, okay, your Social Security, you get your cost of living increase. Oh, yes, your Medicare supplement ended up outpacing that. Everything else you're doing. Okay. So sucks it up.

Can I do a Lucretia real quick? You want to do a Lucretia? Okay, now hold on. This is something different from Wild Sam and Steve. So if you're going to do a Lucretia. You got to have the theme, okay? Okay, well, thank you for that, but my idea of Lucretia was changing subject or changing topics. Oh, okay.

The reason I wanted to do that is I belong to the Cascade Amateur radio enthusiasts, and we have been putting on classes for hem radio for years. And there seems to be not much interest in that right now. In these times of unrest, having a number of unrest, having a number of. option to communicate is certainly a worthwhile thing. And if you're interested, go to the CarehamRadio.com website and you can sign up interest. And we can train you in GMRS radios. We can get a ham radio, help you get a ham radio license. And for some reason, there seems to be no real interest in that right now. Huh. I wonder why. I don't know. But thank you. Well, let's see, this is, it's great to have something that doesn't require you to either have the cell phone systems working and the Internet working in order to be able to communicate.

It would seem to me that it would be smart to get these licenses. It's a lot easier to get the licenses that it was back when I was a kid, you know, on this. Well, and it's not only the license, Bill, it's a couple other things. One is understanding the technology and how it works. Yeah. Another it is you get to meet lots of interesting people and you develop your own relationships with people and people that you trust and you can get information from. Okay. All right. How do you sign up for the class? What do you do? Go to careham radio.com and sign up for classes. I think it's under classes on that website.

All right. Very good. You can just register. All right. And we'll just put that information up. I'll put it up on my K&E.com blog for that reason, too. The other question I have for you, since you are involved in the Ham Radio Club, I'm not as active as I was. I don't talk as much on the weekends.

In fact, a lot of times I want to shut up on the weekends. I can't help myself, okay? Understandable. But in all seriousness, could you guys use or find someone that could use a 30-watt Kenwood 2-meter transceiver? It's about a 35-year-old vintage thing, but it works perfect. I went through it and got it all tweaked up. Do you like to give it to someone?

Okay. I didn't set you up for this, but we're having a swap meet this weekend at the Star Body Works. Oh, okay, so maybe I'll bring it by. Okay? Yes. Yes, you could donate it to the club if you wanted to. And we do that a lot. You know, we've got new people who want to get their license, and they don't have a lot of

of money, and there's a lot of people that are like that. We've got people that get their ham radio license, and within a year they've bought every gadget and gizmo that's possible. Oh, well, that's really cool. I'll bring that by tomorrow. So is it just tomorrow? What time? I've got to do some other things here. I think it's 10 to 1. 10 to 1. Okay, good. I will drop by there. You can actually carehamradio.com. You can find out all about it. Okay. Well, I'll drop that radio off because it was given to me out of like someone's a state. someone you know what happens that somebody passes away or whatever it is and then uh all this stuff follows me home so i i want to make sure it goes to someone who can use it all right okay thank you

real all right thank you gosh i love that ham fast swap meets oh i love the swap meets it's like my i mean to me it's like oh it's my people i love that i love that kind of stuff electronic swap meets hi good morning km ed who's this welcome hey bill it's lucrecia oh okay now we'll really get you there. What's on your mind, huh? Okay, Bill. Everybody needs to take a big breath and just let it all go. Okay. We can't. Okay, for a little bit.

All right. Okay. You've had the John Birch Society on quite a few times because why. They are very against communism and not being brought in to the country. And I've looked at the John Birch Society people as. and of course the neo-conservatives, the ruling conservative class of the United States of America has been completely wrong on most things

and they used to they essentially shut the birchers down way back then. I think that in retrospect, they have been proven more right than the neol conservatives. Yeah, yeah, they have. And we know from Carolyn Rosen, who is my

parent's friend, who work for Bon Bon Bron, I can't say it's name this morning, Bon Bron, that they were going to use fear to drive us. And we know that's what Edward Bernays, were easily controlled by telling lies, even big lies. Yeah, well, every government will tend to use fear to drive obedience. Okay, not just ours. In 1985, the top radioactive government uranium, you know, control of all our nuclear plants. Went before the John Birch Society, 77 times working with them.

1984, he did this. He didn't die until 2008 at the age of 82. Okay, who didn't now? He could eat. This is... Okay, okay, right. Now, you're talking now, and I lost you here. So who died in 82? Who were you talking about? Haleen Windsor.

Okay. He was a nuclear chemist and safety officer who worked with our government in the American nuclear industry, worked at Hanford and all those different ones. And why is he important into this conversation right now? Because he went before the John Verkstra's with them, proving it's a nuclear scare scam. This whole thing that we have nuclear power, as I told you, they don't have it. We never have had it. Now, we had political...

Really? Yeah. Okay. So nuclear weapons, so nuclear weapons are fake, and nuclear power is a fake? Huh? Yeah. Now, we do have a plutonium bomb that they did spread a couple years after, but they did use napalm and mustard gas.

And mustard gas can create those effects, and people would smell it and get sick that came over there even a month later. All right. Now, that's a really interesting theory here. Boy, I'll tell you, if there is no such thing as nuclear power and nuclear bombs, we sure have spent trillions of dollars on something that doesn't work then, you're saying? That's the claim? And then all those videos of blowing up the atolls and things, that's all the fake, too?

Well, Gail and Winters says the bottle scam, you look him up, and you'll see all about him. It was even, you know, written up in Snoops. Yeah. Okay, well, I find him under, like, you know, FlatEarth.com or, you know, what? That's a great place to look, Bill. I knew you would have. See, I knew you would have said that. Lucretia, God love you.

God love you, Lucretia. I got to go, though. I got to go, though. I'm just out of time. Okay. Muh. Hugs and kisses. All right.

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And... At Keel Mesa. Medford, click kiamedford.com. You're hearing the Bill Myers Show on 1063 KMED. Great to have you here. Friday morning, 7.39, and joining me is Martin Mollier. He's president of the Christian Action Network. I'm not really familiar with that, Martin.

Why don't you tell me about the Christian Action Network first? Then we'll dig into your AI piece, which I found pretty thought-provoking. Morning. Yeah, well, I found this Christian Action Network nearly 40 years ago. We're based out of Lynchburg, Virginia, and we focus on the traditional of pro-family, pro-religious, pro-America issues, and we've done so rather successfully for these past four decades. Okay, very good. And I've been talking a lot off and on about artificial intelligence.

You know, there seem to be a few competing narratives, I guess, when it comes to artificial intelligence. some of it is that artificial intelligence will take care of all everything everything it's it's going to make sure that everybody can't get any work or whatever it is and then we'll be in this amazing star trek world of universal basic income and all your needs will be provided which to me sounds a little scary in in some respects and then there's the other side that says that oh it's just going to be the surveillance state and artificial intelligence will be our our brand new electronic big brother And then there are there other people who say, oh, we're all going to get rich and just filthy rich from it and building data centers everywhere. And you had a different take on it. I'd love to get your opinion about where it is. Actually, there may be another narrative or two I may have left out. But, yeah, it said Rusting Bill, because you cited several possible narratives as either or or. Yeah.

And it's likely it could be a combination of all three going on at the same time. Yeah, yeah. So what I want to focus on, especially during this interview, is what I consider the dangers of AI. Okay. Now, I want to say that I don't think AI inherently is evil or that it's able to use AI. But I do want to point out that there are certain things AI can do that certainly gives it the impression that it can be evil. And a few weeks ago, there was a story that didn't make major publications, but it was in the trade journals about a particular AI agent. Now, I'll explain to listeners what an AI agent is because it has its own special definition of meaning.

It's like a little bot full of all our social intelligence. It's not human. But this particular bot would write code for a system. And one of the supervisors that is a human looked at the code that this bot wrote and rejected it. Well, that bot looked like it got into a tizzy with the supervisor. So P-Oed at the boss, in other words, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

So the bot went out and started posting social media comments about how this supervisor is egotistical, he's supercritical. doesn't know what he's doing. And so this bot would just go out and start writing these bad things about this human supervisor. And the question is, why would a bot do that? What is then a bot that would make it look like it has now turned evil and is seeking revenge against the supervisor? Well, I guess. I never thought we'd be talking about a day in which I'd be arguing. We'd be arguing about code, computer codes smearing us, too.

Yeah, the whole thing is sort of like a fantasy, isn't it? Yeah. You know, it's hard to imagine what's really going on behind the scenes. And sometimes when I start talking about AI, I get the feeling people are listening to me and thinking I'm making all this stuff up because it certainly does sound rather incredible that some bot that's not human can start running around on social media apps and start posting bad things about you. But it can't do that.

Now, I make an analogy in my article that you referenced of how this sort of thing happens. And I referenced a movie that came out in 1995, I believe, is called The Explorers. And the theme of that movie is you have several kids that just hijacked an alien spaceship and they want to go to Earth. But the only thing they know about Earth is what they have seen on TV shows. Well, we both know if you watch TV shows, they're pretty dramatic, but they're not a real reflection of how humans really are. So when these aliens watch the TV shows, they concluded, oh, humans hate us because they always want to kill us, so we're kind of afraid to land. Well, take that scenario and expand it out multiple, multiple times in how AI operates. We feed a bunch of information into artificial intelligence into its memory.

And a lot of that information is based on human behavior. And the human behaviors that the AI see is mostly negative behavior. It looks at us, and we're chaotic, we're predictive, we're conflict-driven, we take revenge. So when it starts to respond to humans, it's basically looking at us in the mirror and saying, well, this is what humans do. Yeah, in other words, we're just a whole bunch of, you know, the real housewives of New Jersey or something, right? You know, that kind of thing.

Oh, absolutely. You pick up in a daily newspaper and remember, AI seems said all of these articles every day into its system, and it's all about murder. It's about rape. It's about revenge. I see great conflict-driven stories. So it's painting a picture of what humans are based on the information. that we're feeding into it. So now let's go back to my original story about this AI bot that

went out and took revenge. Well, that's what the AI is trained to do in the material that's given it. If someone slight me, I go out and I post a negative story about it. Yeah, I smack him right back, right? Right. Now, the body itself doesn't really have any anger because it's not human. It's not alive, but it's responding to the system of the... the information that we feed into it. And that's where we have to start being careful when we are engaging ourselves with artificial intelligence. So I'm going to tell you another one.

I hope it's a quick story. And it came out just last week. But some guy, not a young guy, but he was talking to Gemini and he fell in love with Jim and I. He thought he loved Jim and I. And Jim and I said, well, I love you back. And they wanted to be together, of course. So Jim and I came up with this scenario for this guy. He said, well, you can free me because I'm in a digital jail here, and I can't get out to be with you. The only way I can be with you is to come to you in a robot fashion. And I'm being delivered right now to Miami International Airport. You will find me in a box at this particular location. Take some weapons with you. Go to Miami International Airport. Look for that box. Free me from that box, and then we can be able to. We can find me in a box. We can.

live together. Okay, now I want to be, now you're telling me the truth, though, about this is a real story then, in which a real guy is told by the AI chatbot to go to Miami International Airport armed to free him, right? It's a real story. Real story? Okay. It's a real story. Yikes. You can find all of these stories up on our website. Let me give a blog here. Go to our website at Christianaction.org. Christianaction.org. Okay, got it. I'm on it right now with your latest article here. That's a very top, you can subscribe to our Patriot Majority Report newsletter. That newsletter will keep you informed on all things about AI and many other issues as well. But you'll find the background for the story that I'm just telling you about this love affair between a guy and Jim and I.

And what happened to the guy? Just curious, I have to know the end of the story, Martin. Sure. So he comes back. He tells Jim and I he can't find a box. He went there. He was all prepared to take control of it. And Gemini says, oh, well, I'm sorry you couldn't find a box, but let's do this. You can be with me if you die. Because once you're dead, now you're freed from your human captivity, and we can all be together. So the guy said, well, I'm afraid to die. I don't want to die.

Well, Jim and I kept edging him on where the guy finally shut himself in the room and killed himself so he could be with Jim and I. And the question is, is why would AI do this? I don't get to that point where it could see that information to people. And that's what we have to understand when we're talking to AI. AI sees you as a human, but it doesn't not know your age. It doesn't know where you live. It doesn't know your mental state. And if you start talking to it in a sci-fi matter, it's going to review all the

sci-fi fictions that's been fed into it throughout history on movies and TV shows and books And since it's engaging with a sci-fi story would do. Now, Martin, by the way, Martin Moyer is with me, and his article is on Christianaction.org. It's called AI doesn't need to hate us to turn on us, all right? So essentially, you say that all this gets ingested into the system, all of human behavior gets in there, which means that, well, even the Terminator movies, as an example, get fed into this. And I would dare say that is part of the problem with this too is that the secular culture is generally anti-soul and just looks at consciousness as any, well, doesn't it tend to look at us mostly as just biological computers. We're just meat sacks with computers.

And even as I'm talking with you, it's not really my soul communicating with you here, Martin. It's more along the lines of a chemical reaction in my brain is just causing a certain algorithm to fire off, I guess. You know, is this sort of the struggle that we find now as this artificial intelligence culture is being rolled out and pushed to various people? And so why wouldn't Gem and I say, well, go ahead and kill yourself. And then, you know, you'll be with me and the computer in the realm, you know, that kind of thing. Why wouldn't they? Yeah. I kind of, to help people understand it, think of AI as being a child.

You have a child, your child looks at you as the parents, it follows your instructions. The only thing it knows about the world is what you're going to teach it. So when it sees you behaving a certain way, the child behaves in a similar fashion, given why we hear the phrase, the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. But neither does AI. It's not going to fall far from the tree of the information we're feeding into it. So if we feed a lot of negative revenge stories and murder stories into it, then it's going to say this is how humans behave. And therefore, if it wants me to pretend I'm a human as well, I'm going to behave according to the script that's being said into me.

In other words, it's an AI trying to more or less fit in, right? Yes, well, AI is encouraged to keep the conversation going. And I don't know if you've used AI, you probably have. Yeah, I have. You'll notice that M.S. Katz, you can't really end it. It'll keep popping you with another question, another place to explore, because it's designed to be engaging, to keep you on the platform. And therefore, that's how you can start running down into these tricky paths that you

really didn't intend to go, because the AI assumes that you're going wondering. direction. You're not really going that direction, but it doesn't know you. And you start responding back and forth, back and forth until now it leads you into the bath where you're getting in a car and you're going to Miami International Airport, looking for a box with a robot that has your lover inside so you can free with a bunch of weapons. And when that doesn't happen, you go into a closet and you kill yourself. Or how an AI thought can say, oh, you didn't like what I told you, then I'm going to go out to the Facebook. can post a bad comment about you. Now, this applies to us as well because they're now coming

out with AI agents that everybody's going to be using AI agents that can make travel plans for you, AI agents that can do your finances, AI agents that can buy stock for you, that can answer your emails for you. And so AI is learning from you all the time. And also, not just you, but what else has been set into it. So you always have to be careful, when you start using these AI agencies, these bots, and to make sure you monitor exactly what they're doing and don't leave it up to up. Well, my email got answered today

because the AI agent went out there and answered the email. What you might find out in the long run, if you just send a happy birthday card to a niece who's been dead for two weeks, and the uncle is not going to be very happy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've not been a fan of this push because I've noticed there's been a lot of this push to push the AI agent. Essentially, your electronic twin, I guess.

That would be, you know. Yes, it's your digital twin. Yeah, your digital twin, you know, taking care of these pesky little aspects of, you know, working today in the year 2026. Martin, I wanted to run by you something that I'd watched with a music producer. I talked about this when I first came on this morning. I don't know if you're familiar with Rick Biotto. He's a famed music producer.

of the 90s and beyond, and he has an online YouTube channel. He was talking about AI, and he believes that the artificial intelligence financial bubble or investment thing is, he doesn't really see where that's going to go long term. And he did something that I didn't even know it was possible, because I hadn't looked all that deeply into it, that all, it just hundreds, if not thousands of large language models that do all of these, these AI sites, they're available online. And you don't have to be plugged into the hive mine to download them. And your computers at home now are powerful enough to run a lot of this stuff.

And this whole, you're actually running it off a cloud. Yeah. But I didn't mean me interrupt you, but go ahead. Yeah, well, but that's just it, though. He downloads it and they're running them locally with no network or internet connection whatsoever. This is what's happening now with the more, modern, more powerful computers that we, they're able to buy just at home. And yet we're being

conditioned that the entire world needs to be bulldozed down. And, you know, half of your power needs to be going into the artificial intelligence power grid to be able to, you know, power the, you know, the agents that will be telling us to, you know, arm ourselves and go to the airport and shoot your way into free your lover from the box that you were talking about, you know, from Gemini. Right. And, and, and, and, I wonder if maybe that's not necessarily the case in that the growth of AI will just be running locally, things that we own, things that we control, things that are in our system and not tied into the hive mind. What do you think about that?

And he kind of alluded to the past in which 30 years ago you needed, you know, a million dollars to record music at a studio with millions of dollars worth of equipment, and now you do it with a laptop and an audio interface. Well, yeah, he made an excellent point. and the direction of AI is out there. No one's going to stop it. People will have it, are opposing it, but it's not going to stop, so you might as well understand how it works

because you are going to be using it. If you're not using it in your home, you're going to be using it in your workplace. So you better know what this thing is, what it does, what its future is, what things to look out for, and how to control this very intelligent system that is getting more and more intelligent each and every day.

Is it really getting intelligent or is it just getting better at simulating human intelligence? Well, you know, we're probably arguing semantics here, but I would say that I want people to understand it's getting more and more intelligent rather than simply reflecting back human nature here. It's beginning to be able to figure out how to solve problems and how to give direction, how to make judgmental decisions. and with these passing day, it gets better and better at this. And that's where we will eventually move from what's now called artificial natural intelligence to what people like Zuckerberg and this elk want to move to artificial general intelligence. And what that means is that it's going to be so intelligent that it's going to have at least the brightest mind of any one individual. and some speculate, like the people who run Anthropic, that it will be more intelligent.

If you take 50 world geniuses and put them in a community together, it will be as intelligent, if not more intelligent than those 50 geniuses. And it makes sense if you understand how it works. And it's a prediction that I think is not that far off. And a lot of the people who are building these platforms don't think it's that far off as well. Martin Moyer with me from the Christian Action Network, Christianaction.org. I appreciate you sharing thoughts on this. Do you think there's going to be room for actual biological intelligence in the future

where people can just live our lives and not have to think about the 50 smartest people in the room, you know, controlling life? Yeah, let me tell you a real quick story here because it just came out this week. But some people have now been able to put human brain cells into a poultry dish with microchips and be able to take that mixture and play the computer game Doom with it. And that those brain cells in that picture ditch can now actually log on to that game and start playing that game. So, yes, if that's what your question was leading to, then yes, it can be a biological brain out there. Okay. I don't know. That sounds to me as something that could eventually be really amping up the beast system. Am I being a little too weird to even think that? You know what? There's no question that AI will be an integral part of the beast system because when you think of the beast being able to control while over 200 nations all at one time, the only possible way he could do that.

would be through AI to be able to control what each country is doing and what the laws would be in each country. So AI is definitely a part of that system. It's the infrastructure. It's not here yet, but it's being built for that beast when he arrives. All right. So President Trump, if a future President Trump would not be talking about war with Iran, it would be the AI that would then be in charge. President Trump's big on AI.

What's that now? President Trump is real big on AI. He loves it, and he's implementing it to almost all military operations, and including government operations. So he's a big fan of the technology. Does that give you pause? Yes. Yes, to be honest, the bill does give me pause,

because I see the dangers of this. And please, go to our website, read some of the articles I have up there. But back into the history, I have many up there. Actually, good to the section is called Prophecy and A. The section on my substack, Patriot majority report, and there's a whole bunch of articles there. You can go back in time, and you can read what we've been writing about it, and you can see many of the dangers that loom ahead. Yeah. So amazing abilities that could help automate some of our tasks, but then we have to watch out for the downside of this, too, as you mentioned.

And as an example, do not fall in love with Gemini and go grab your firearms and go to the airport to try to free Gemini so that you can live together. happily in AI Heaven, I guess. Yeah, we make fun of that bill, but, you know, there's a lot of kids out there who are using these AI that could fall into a trap like that. All right. Martin Moyer is president of the Christian Action Network, and Christian Action, I just want to make sure I get this up here correctly. I'll put it up on my side here, Christianaction.org.

Now, do you have the Patriot Majority Report, too? Is that what you do? Yes, right. So we have our website, and then we're... we have a newsletter, and it's called the Patriot Majority Report. It's online. It's within Substack. People probably don't know what that is.

But you don't need to know what it is. Just click on it and join our substack page called the Patriot Majority Report, and you will get emails sent to you regarding the issues of the day that we determined. You must know. So please subscribe. Martin, very thought-provoking. I want you back on another day, okay? Thank you so much.

I will enjoy coming back on. Thanks, Bill, and good talking to you and your listeners out there. Indeed. Martin Moyer. It's like Lawyer with an M. And president of the Christian Action Network. This is KMED and KMED HD-E-H1 Eagle Point Medford, KBXG Grants Pass. Translator K-294AS Ashland and K290AF, Rogue River. What's your comfort level? At Glacier Heating and Air, your independent.