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This hour of the Bill Myers Show podcast is proudly sponsored by Klausur drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for more than 50 years. Find out more about them at Klausurrilling.com. 10 after 8, Charles Goyette joins me here in a couple of minutes, author of Empire of Lies, fragments from the memory holds. Good read. I've been reading it last few days still digging in. Todd's here, Central Point. Todd, you have a connection with Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris passing away the age of 86. What's up? Yeah, I never would have thought he was that old. I just, maybe I always thought he was perpetually young.

To me, he was always perpetually 46, 46 years old in my mind. You know what I mean? Kind of that age, you know, not a kid, but not an old man, but I guess he was. Yeah, I grew up in Los Angeles, and his first dojo was in Sherman Oaks, and both my brothers and my sister attended that dojo. and it was fun. I was a kid in 1970s, and so it was fun to go to the events and to have him step up. And I remember my brother, he was only a teenager at the time,

was very, very good. And Chuck Norris sparred with him and kind of put my brother in his place. And I always took a kind of person. I thought, oh, how dare he do that? My brother never looked at it that way. My brother was idolized him. But I was thought, oh, come on.

You're beating up a kid. But he and Bruce Lee at the time were very good friends. And that's what really launched Chuck Norris was Bruce Lee's movie. Yeah, well, even if he played the bad guy in the Bruce Lee movie, right? What he did. Yeah, wave the dragon. Yeah, way of the dragon. Yeah, it's pretty good.

But, of course, you know, hey, what would the culture be without that? You know, I especially love the way they would dub those old kung fu fighting movies. back in the 1970s, which everybody talks like this, right? You're that going to think? I remember, and he had an impact all around the world. I was a park ranger in California, and I worked in a park that had a lot of Russian dignitaries would come there and had Russian roots. And I remember this one Russian diplomat came up to me in broken English and said,

a ranger like Walker, Texas ranger. Oh, that's funny. Great story. Hey, Todd, thanks for sharing the touch with greatness, okay? Andy, great Charles Goyette will join me here at a couple of minutes, and I can't wait to further discuss the Empire of Lies, fragments from the memory hole. Highly recommended read. Right back.

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Talk 1063 KMED. Call Bill at 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. Now more with Bill Meyer. One of the biggest challenges we have these days is trying to discern the truth of what's going on around us. And I have to tell you, it, you know, people will ask me, well, what do you think is happening here?

And I'll be the first to tell you, I don't know I have an opinion or a theory about things and a lot of times the real truth of situations is not fully revealed until years after the, after the criminals have committed their crimes, so to speak, and I'm speaking of government criminals quite often. And here to discuss just that, and I've been enjoying his book. I'm about three, four chapters in right now, and I dive into the Kindle as often as I can to continue reading. Charles Goyette, he's the author of Empire of Lies, Fragments from the memory hole. Charles, you're an award-winning talk show host still in national one. Are you syndicated or do a national podcast? What are you doing these days? No, I've actually left the

airwaves and I exclusively, exclusively right. So I enjoy being on the other side of the conversations these days. Boy, I'll tell you, that's a real skill in and of itself, because the few times that I have been interviewed, Charles, I am as nervous as all hell. I don't know how to comport myself sometimes when I get interviewed, because, you know, I'm, when I get interviewed, because because it's very different to be on my side controlling the interview and then the other person doing the other side. Would you agree? Well, Bill, let me tell you something. You're a standout among talk shows because you actually read the material.

As you said, you're reading my book. And I was like you, and I would read the material. And this is a piece of karma. It's just a story, but it's a piece of karma that I experienced. I would sometimes read the person's book, and then I would ask him a question about it. written. And to my astonishment on the air, they didn't know the answer. And I said, well, that's funny. It's right there on page 223 in your book. Oh, no. So, no, but, Bill, when I wrote, when I wrote my first book, which you and I talked about years ago when it first came out, I had just a little nugget of

information. I tried to figure out something minor, just for purposes of illustration, like how much the American people pay in taxes to service the portion of debt held by China, or something like that, just the illustration, and I'd written it by a year later when the book was finally published. I got on a talk show, and somebody said, now, Charles, how much interest does the average American family pay on its share of the national debt held by China? And I said, I don't really know. And he said, well, that's funny. It's on page 119 in your book. Oh, you've got to be kidding me. So they did it to you, right? Yeah, they did it to me. And it taught me a lesson. But I enjoy being on this side of it this time.

Okay, well, that's good. I'll give you just a funny story about, You know, people would always think that radio hosts or know everything, right? And people would call up. Now, I was a DJ long before I was a talk show host. And I was at my first radio station in Barstow, K-I-O-T, a little flea-bag station. I know that station, yeah. Yeah. And it is, now it's a Mexican satellite station.

I was talking about that earlier this morning. And so the point being, though, is that people would call in, and they would say, all right, okay, so what's the point gap on on a 63 Chevy or something like that. I was like 16,000. I said, and I had a Chevy, so I said, I think it was 16,000, so I think is what I said. And it could have been, I hope I got that number right, because it's been 45 years since I've, since I really mentioned it. And he goes, gosh, you know, you radio people really do know everything. And I'm laughing because it just, no, I just had a Chevy, you know.

That's all it was. I'm fortunate they have Brock, which is the step up from us radio guys. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Charles, I wanted to talk with you a little bit about getting your thing. Like I said, I'm three, four chapters deep on this one. And it has been healthy to go back and revisit, especially the early part of the book, which is, what, 9-11, TWA, Flight 800, you know, the missile downing, in my opinion of that, of that.

And how, what we have to be careful about in our representative republic, whatever is left of it at this point, is that whatever we hear from government, even the government people that we tend to like at the federal level, we have to take it with a grain of salt. Isn't that almost like the takeaway of the Empire of Lies? Shouldn't we be doing that? Shouldn't we check? But you're right.

And when people verify things, even ordinary citizens that have no part of the public debate when they verify things, they're often astonished about what they find. The witnesses mentioned, PWA Flight 800 at July 9. 96 terrible TWA crash off of Long Island on its way to Perra. The witnesses, first of all, weren't called the official hearing. There were hundreds of them, and they were not participants in the official hearing, but even worse, years later, many of them who had given statements to the FBI had a chance

to revisit their statements and found that they had been completely changed. These are ordinary Americans. Hey, hey, Charles, could you re-ep position yourself? We're losing you a little bit, and I want to hear it all. I want to make sure we hear it all. Can you do that? Well, I was just saying that even some eyewitnesses to the TWA 800 tragedy gave statements at the time to the FBI. And when they looked back a couple of years later, they had an opportunity to see the files and see their statements.

They discovered that their own statements had been changed. And as I said, these aren't people with a political axe to grind. These aren't people that had any side. There were no sides. There was just people trying to tell the truth of what they saw. And yet they were astonished to see how many of them had substantial changes in their accounts of what they have seen. It's a very disturbing phenomenon. It occurs an awful lot of times.

It's like the disappearing videotapes and so on of Jeffrey Epstein's cell. It's just peculiar how often those things sort of disappear down the memory hole. Also, the magical disappearance of videotape evidence that showed what actually hit the Pentagon in 9-11, during the 9-11 attacks at that point. Ain't that peculiar? Yeah. And the more stuff that disappears, the more you want to know what really happened. I don't know why something should be a national security threat, you know, a video from Circle K or joining business. of what happened and how it could be withheld for years.

I had a famous debate with a reporter from one of the magazines. I don't remember anyone on his reputation, but it was either popular mechanics or something like that years ago. And they were treated to write an account debunking questions about 9-11. They were treated to the inside information that the American people couldn't see. And that seemed very peculiar to me. How does a journalist, how does a private publication, company get to get shown selective inside information that has been held in secrecy by the

government, but it is not revealed at large to the people. This stuff is, of course, it's because it's, you know, it's used tenditiously. It's used to affect. Some of the information is shown to a special effect, and we're left to wonder what. And I tend to look at most news reporting on everything, and this is not about the Trump administration. I just look at this as about the government in general. This is something I think that you will find going through Republican administrations,

through Democratic administrations. It is the one continuing theme that I tend to look at news reporting, especially on the national level, as everything seems to be a limited hangout. Is that kind of a fair way? Oh, everything. It's true. Yeah, we tell you enough that you're thinking that something's really going,

on, but you're never really hearing the whole story because everything's massaged, everything. You know, Bill, one of the things I hold up, I think, is an object of more than curiosity, maybe an object of shame, is some of the biggest news outlets in America. When they found, for example, Brian Williams was the primary anchor on NBC News at night, NBC Nightly News. And he started making up tales about what he saw and how he was involved in some breathtaking adventures when he flew into Iraq as part of a mission in the first Gulf War as an observer and so on. And he changed and elaborated those accounts and they became frightening. Then I saw a missile headed right toward us, and it was an RPG headed down the tube,

and we had to course through land. And with each telling it got more and more elaborate until finally the guys that were actually on the mission, blew the whistle in stars and stripes. And they said, this isn't what happened. There was no threat to that mission. There was a later one that did wish fired on by an RPG, and Brian Williams' story is purely made up. And when he was confronted with the truth of that, he said, oh, denying responsibility personally itself, he tried to shove. He said, oh, maybe I had a brain tumor.

Oh, okay. The worst part of it is that the corporation that hired him, it was General Electric in BC, didn't have enough respect for its viewers to, you know, to release. leave him of his position to say, you know, we trust these people to report on things far away that they understand very little of, but to dig out and get the truth about those. And yet, if they're lying to you about the things they know best their own experiences, then we can't entrust them with your viewership and we'll have to let him go. We're very sorry. If he has a brain tumor, we'll pay for his MRI, whatever it is. But this stuff has gone on with a number of networks that have found there are lead guys out misrepresenting things, whole cloth,

and they don't have enough respect in my view to protect even their own franchise. And when it comes right down to it, we know that human nature when we tell a story is sometimes to add in the occasional embellishment, you know, when you're storytelling, you know, we get that. Here's a, there's a little bit about it. But it's one thing to, you know, talk about, you know, the missile corkscrewing into you, et cetera, et cetera. And if you're willing to lie that much about that, what else are you willing to lie about? Because you've pretty much indicated that you're a liar.

Now, like I said, there are the little truths or untruths that I think are part of the social lubricant of conversation, of everyday conversation. Fair enough. I mean, we can forgive that. Yeah, sure. People like to exaggerate, make themselves important. I suppose everybody at one time of their life might have met somebody in a bar or someplace who was regalia with.

about when he was a Navy field or a Green Beret when he really wasn't. You feel like, you know, in a way, you feel kind of sympathetic for him. You know, there's a hole in their psyche or they're not recognized for their genuine good qualities and want to embellish. But, you know, like, for example, Fox News had a guy on by the name of Wayne Simmons for years, and he was supposed to be a CIA national security expert, and they called him not because of the wisdom of what he said, but they called it because, you know, it's spiked ratings. Fear is good.

War is good for ratings. Fox News Alert, and they had this guy on all the time, and he came out with the most landish recommendations. I mean, 15 years ago, at least he was talking about, we need to launch a ground invasion of Iran. That was way back then. And so finally, some real CIA guys whistle on him, and he said to be the talk about to, you. Hey, I'm starting to lose you a little bit here. Can I take a break and call you back on a different line, see if we can get you a little bit better? You bet. I want to hear this about the CIA.

Like I said, the limited hangout world we live in. Charles Goyette, author of Empire of Lies, fragments from the memory hole. We'll continue next on the Bill Meyer show. Larry, we need to talk. Can we do it when I get back? I'm heading over to Grover Electric and Plumbing Supply. That's kind of what I want to talk about. Okay. Look, I get that you're a big fan of Grover. Oh, yeah, they're the best.

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you know, viewers hung out and stuff and fermented war along the way. But you know, here's what, here's what happens to people, even that are trying to tell you the truth. In 2003, the Bush administration said the Iraq war was going to cost about $50 billion. And the guy who said that was a pretty good economist. I think his name was Larry Lindsay. And I used to read occasionally. like he said the Iraq war is going to cost about $50 billion. Well, when the cost actually came in, it was over $3 trillion. So they make this stuff up as they go along. I remember Rumsfeld saying, we know where the weapons of mass destruction are.

Where somebody asked him. And he said, well, they are north and south and east and west of the creek, which if you know anything about geography means there anywhere, any place in the world. You know, it's like start an end point and go north, southeast, the west. That pretty much covers the globe. But, of course, they didn't know where the weapon mass destruction were, and there were ample evidence that they didn't. And yet, the people that told the truth were vilified for their efforts, and the people that misled the country into war are still shown on TV every minute. people that said there was no evidence whatsoever that anybody would ever use claims as a weapon of attack on America,

told us that over and over again, Bush, and Lisa Rice, our high shirt. Oh, you know, and that was in the early part of the book, which I read in which you were revisiting 9-11, and it was astounding that, and that was one of the claims. I remember the claims coming out, and this is not a Republican thing, because we get the same kind of lies coming out of all, but this is one of the biggest ones that ended up leading. to the rise of the security state. But there were multiple times in multiple security warnings of the possible use of terrorist flying planes into buildings.

This was nothing that was not considered before. True? I think the most examples of the expected them at the Atlanta Olympics, the Republican Convention and the Democratic Convention long beforehand. But most telling example is G7 meeting. It took place in Italy. these are where the heads. Hey, hey, I'm going to have to ask,

Charles, I'm still losing you on the cell. I don't know. Is there any way I can... I'm sorry. I'm sorry about this. I'm sorry to complain about it, but I'm just having, we're having trouble hearing you there.

Of course. Can you buy a window or anything like that? Any way we can make that happen? I don't know if you are. I could do that. I could do that. I show all the bars I need. I show plenty of bars,

but let me step over here and see if this doesn't... Yeah, let's see. Yeah, I just want to make any difference at all. Yeah. If it makes any difference. on test two. That's not. It's not. For some reason, we're just having a bad cell day with you. Hey, I'll tell you what, can I invite you back another day? Maybe we can get you another way.

Of course. Can you do Zoom or anything like that? Maybe we can do it that way. In any time, I so enjoy being on your show. Okay. I want to get you come back, but I want to be able to hear you because the stories that you tell in Empire lies are worth hearing and worth hearing the whole thing. I'll have Charles back. We'll get the cell phone situation. figured out another day, maybe get him on a Zoom call or some other way. If you can hang it on, just a second, Charles, we'll do that. I'm disappointed. I can't finish it up, but we will finish it with him a different day.

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7705, 633. I like this tune. Elastica. Yeah, kind of like a one-hit wonder. I'm looking at it through the window at the scuba. Steve. I just always like the sound of that. Love that crunchy guitar, that jangle rock guitar.

Good stuff. Anyway, 770KMD, we got to Miter Dave. Hello, Dave. Welcome. Yeah, I was noticing on YouTube that they were talking about, if you were born between 1954 and 1965, that you're not really a boomer, that you're Generation Jones, and that we were in between them and Jim X,

because the true boomers got everything ahead of us, and we got what was left over, and when we started working like you, probably in 79 or 80. Yeah. You know, we had all kinds of problems. And then we had the, you know, 18% housing market, you know, for interest. And we've had to reinvent ourselves more than once.

Well, there's a case to be made there. It's funny that you bring this up. Generation Jones is what, I've read that research on this, too. They talk about 1955 to 1965. Gen X is technically 65 until the, what, late 70s, I think, I forget. But the point being, though, is every generation, what I don't like is these wars between the generations in which, you know, it's the boomers fault or it's your greatest generation's fault or it's the silent generation's fault, you know, that we find ourselves in this. Every generation of Americans, or just people in general, you're always a product of the time that you're living in right now.

And when they talked about the baby boom generation, they were just taking it as large birth rate. And it was a large birth rate back at that time. And that technically ended 1964, 1965 when the birth rates ended up going down. But you're right that the psychology of the generations in what they grew up with were very different because even though I love the music from the 1960s, the revolution, the sexual revolution, all that kind of stuff didn't. mean anything to me. Woodstock meant nothing to me either. Yeah. Now, Woodstock meant great things. I thought there was great music out of Woodstock, right? So I like the music out of it. But, you know, the get on the Ken Kese Express, is it Ken Kesey? Is that who I'm thinking of? The, it is, well, but you know what I'm getting at. It's kind of like the hippie, tie-dye loves thing.

Right. And then, you know, we grew up to the yuppies. Remember the yuppies? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And remember, greed is good, right? Right. We need is good. But, you know, we've had to reinvent ourselves multiple times. And, you know, we tend to be not trustworthy of authority, but we're not outright rebellion. We tend to work within the system. And, you know, like, we're considered the fixers of problems. Well, we'll see. Gen Xers, by the way, have been the one. ones that are really not trusting of authority. And a lot of them have turned into great homeschoolers, you know, homeschooling parents for

that reason, not wanting to trust their children. I got a trust their children to the state, I should say. I got a millennial that's homeschooling his kids. And if you think that Gen Xers are skeptics of government, try an adult millennial that's like in his early 40s. and he's, you know, doesn't like any kind of form of government. I'll take that too hard, all right. Thanks, Dave, 770563.

Happy to take your calls on Find Your Phone Friday. Good morning. Hi, who's this? Welcome. Hello. Hello. Hi. Hi, Bill.

This is Francine. I am double dipping. Okay. I'll be a little bit forgiving. It's fine, but you must have wanted to say something. What's up? I really do, yeah. When you had the doctor on talking about, you know, the, what's your name, Dolores Twerta,

and others who are all claiming the abuse by Chavez and all that stuff. Yeah, by Caesar Chavez. Yeah. And now I tended to look at, just to set the table, if you didn't hear Dr. Gilda Carl, I'll put that up on podcasts here in a little bit, but Dr. Gilda Carl wrote a book called Real Men Don't Go Woke, okay? She's a psychiatrist type. And the thing is, she thinks that this had to do with the Epstein files and wokeness. I was thinking that it was more along the lines of he hated illegal aliens and immigration.

So, you know, he had to be destroyed in today's narrative. But how are you coming down on this? Well, okay, first of all, the two do not need to be, the two ideas, reasons, or whatever, do not need to be mutually exclusive. True. Could be both, sure. Yes. And my kick, having been a young woman during those times.

Yeah, you were a hippie chick, you told us. You bet that. And seeing the behavior of many women at the time and how women would manipulate themselves into what they considered to be powerful positions or the one that's the favorite of the big important man or stuff like that. I mean, who's to say that these women weren't using him? Also, I'm not saying that what he did was right, or I'm not, you know, I'm not going there. What I'm trying to say is that women also used their, there's themselves sexually to achieve status in many situations. I saw it in communes and all kinds of things, you know.

And so who's to say that any of these women, at particular, this one, Dolores Huerta, did not do that. And perhaps she regretted it later. Who knows, but that's not the point. The point is it's not always just one-sided. It's a very good point, and I appreciate you bringing that up, too. Okay. And now because you said that, now you said in communes, you observed this in communes. So you went to communes, or you lived in communes for a while?

I lived in a commune in the head ashbury. No kidding. For about a year. All right. So in other words, you, Francine, you were that drunk hippie chick. twirling in the front at the Grateful Dead shows. That was you? Actually, I never liked the Grateful Dead. I never did either, but a lot of other people did.

I did not go to, I have never been to a Grateful Dead show. Well, a lot of people like Grateful Dead, and like Fish. I know Fish, another jam band. I never cared for Fish, but, you know, God bless him. There are people who just go everywhere for that kind of stuff like that. I know. Well, just, you know, to break the stereotype image, you know. All right. Well, thank you very much for your take on it, Francine. 770K.M.D. It's open phones here for the final few minutes of the week Friday. Good morning. Hi. Who's this? Hello. Hey, Bill. It's Lucretia. Hi, Lucretia. Got it. Oh, boy, I need to know when you're calling so I can always have you. There we go.

Now, see, that's a hippie chick twirling and dancing song in the front. But anyway, what's on your mind, huh? Don't you love the two CIA agents at the Grateful Dead concerts that we're giving out all the LSD? Just ironic. Hey, on the Empire Lies, I just listened to an interview last night of a woman who lost her husband on 9-11. That we had Jim Bush in Florida. We had Al Gore running, and then we had Monkey Bush. You know, that's bad enough. But Neil Bush was the head of security, as you know, for the towers.

For the towers, yeah. And had quit the day before. Well, this woman gets a phone call that morning with her beloved husband calls her and said, we can't get out. there's been a bomb going off. We can't get up. It's the trap door to get out. We can't get out. All these young men, there was no way to get out.

The elevators were bombed, and the stairway down was bombed. This was all planned. This before any plane hit, there was no plane. He said he didn't see any plane. It was just bombs that went off in the towers where they were that they couldn't get out. I have read such accounts also, and I will be the first to tell you. you, Lucretia, that I was full into the standard explanation of 9-11 and what was the lead-up to it. And I was in the conventional box there for a long, long time. It did take reading alternative

books and talking with people that had facts that told a different story before I started coming around to something to a different way of understanding. I am not going to say that there were bombs in there and things like that. But all I can't say is that I will agree with people who worked on the 9-11 report that it was just an utter fabulous fabrication and that it had nothing to do with the evidence that had been presented and that the people, to this day, have not been given a full accounting of what happened that day. And I will say that even though there was a Republican presidency, it wasn't because it was a Republican presidency. I think this goes beyond politics, in my opinion.

Okay? No, as Kissinger says, you've got to break to Meg to make an omelet, but they don't mind breaking and killing Americans. All right. Appreciate the call. Thanks for that. 770, KM.E.D. Yep, all I would say is that, uh, I can tell you what, uh, I can't tell you what did happen

that day, folks. It was tragic. I can tell you people died, but the reason why they died, I can't tell you really what happened. I can't. I don't think anybody can. But anyway, KMED, good morning. Hi, who's this?

Your morning. This is John. John, welcome. You mentioned two people, Ken Kesey and Caesar Chavez, and I knew both of them fairly well. Oh, you did, huh? Okay, now, it was Ken Kesey. I said Kesey, it's actually Kesey. Thank you.

And he had the, it was the magic bus, right? There, that really crazy bus. That was the book written about him, but he actually, I was at the University of Oregon, and I was in graduate school and undergraduate school there. And he lived on a big farm. He was a rassler. He was a high-level rassler when he was in school, and they owned a huge dairy. But he would let all the college kids come out, and he had like bales of pot on the table.

But anyway, he was quite a story. But Cesar Chavez was a very destructive person, and let me just give you a couple of examples. So I was part of the high school equivalency program, the HEP program. We had 100 minority kids getting them GEDs, and most of them were Mexican kids. And he was really good friends with the director, Jose de la Isla, and he came two or three times a year. And he would have our kids go into the supermarket that now is the basketball stadium, the supermarket that was there, and have them fill up carts with frozen food and take it out into the parking lot so they would be ruined.

The food would be ruined. Why? Why was Caesar Chavez doing that? To protest labor laws and so forth and that people aren't getting paid enough. And that was his way to demonstrate. But he caused the grocery store hundreds of thousands of dollars of damages in the three times he did it that one year. I mean, it was horrible. Oh, I had never heard that story, John. I got upset with the kids and tried to explain to them that, you know, they thought they were,

were doing the morally right thing to help the migrant workers. And I said, what about the guy that owns that grocery store? It's not a chain. It's a local grocery store. You're going to put him out of business. So I tried to teach the kids about it. But Caesar Chavez was a very radical, angry man. Is there a chance, John, that, of course, I know you are a businessman of local reputation here

for a long, long time working the development side, is one of our biggest problems that we have in our schools, the lack of any kind of economic sense being taught. They have none. Yes, they have none. And that description of, well, we're going to protest there and thinking that we're going to be helping the downtrodden. But I guess it's still that Marxist ideology that is just, you know, in the mother's milk of government education, that there are just people who are oppressed and the oppressors. I mean, even then, we're talking 40, 50, 60 years back. right correct you know in another life I was the Dean of Students at Phoenix High School

and one of the things that I did is I created the work experience program and it was real work experience kids wanted to go to work for an attorney or they wanted to go to work with an electrician I had almost 200 kids in work experience to teach them what it's like to have a real business and I actually taught a class on being an entrepreneur but that would never happen in today his world. That's a sad statement. And I think yet another reason why, you know, I give God blessings to people who are trying to reform the state education system. I really do. I don't think it's reformable. That's the problem that I have. But if you're trying to reform it, all you're

doing is trying to save the later children, the generations yet to come. But if you're trying to save your children or save the current generation, everything possible to get them out of that corrupt, failed system has to be done. I have two examples of the system actually working. Logos Charter School, I think, is an incredible opportunity, and it's part of the public school systems. Every kid there loves it. They create a specific program for each kid, and the kids that graduate from high school also get an associate's degree, a lot of them anyway. Yeah, and I would agree with you, but I would venture a guess, though, that the school system itself would just as soon wish that that had disappeared. Well, they have 800 kids on a list that want to come there right now that the school district won't let them come.

So there's a lot more kids that would like for that school. Why can't we duplicate Logos' success at other schools? You could accept the district won't allow it. Why won't the district allow it then? I don't know. You'd have to ask them. The other example, though, of an incredible public school is the John Adams Academy. They have 5,000 kids in California, and they teach classic education with teaching Plato and Socrates and capitalism, and repatriatism, and it's in a public school setting.

It's not a private school, so any kid can come to it. And those are the two examples within the public school systems that really would work, you know, provide the kids with the kind of education. talking about. John, I appreciate the story and thanks for sharing the 1960s experience there with Casey, too. All right. And Caesar Chavez. Thank you. 854. This is KMED. At Dusty's transmissions, they've expanded to cover a wide range of automotive repairs, from brake repairs to power steering to suspension work. They handle all key systems in your vehicle with their signature commitment to quality and value. Through March, any new customer can save $100 off any new repair or service plus get 50% off diagnostics and save $50 off a brake flush.

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Hi, I'm Deb with Father and Sonjorie, and I'm on KMED. We got a Michael. Michael, you got a good point to make here in the closing moments of the show? Go ahead. Yeah, you know, Bill, I was going to talk about the cell phone study that just came out about the blood-brain barrier issue. Haven't read that one yet. But anyway, continue. Mainly I was going to call about maybe if they can, you know, this executive order thing

they're doing all the time. Is there a way they could probably cancel the liability for Walmart when they throw away all that food that's still good? Like tons and tons of food that just throw in the garbage. And the reason is because of liability. But you can cancel liability for pharmaceutical. Why can't you cancel liability for the food that we're going to be mean? You know, I think that's actually a very interesting question.

I don't know if that would be a federal liability or perhaps a local or probably more of a state law might be that. I think when it comes to a matter of morality, it makes no sense to throw massive amounts of perfectly edible food away, don't you think? I just don't think they're ever going to do anything. I'm just saying I don't believe they're ever going to do anything about this, but I just throw it out there. All right. Hey, hey, good to have you throw it out. out. Appreciate that greatly. 770 KMED. I think we have time to squeeze in one more. Hi, KMED. Good morning. Who's this? Good morning. Dennis and Grant's Pass. Hi, Dennis. What's on your mind? Hey, two things quickly.

I lived on Long Island about 20 miles as the crow flies from where that TWA flight went down. Yes. And, you know, that was over the south shore of Long Island, where millions of people were at the beach at that time in the evening. It's kind of like if that happened over L.A., how many people would have seen it. So that's one thing. The other thing about the World Trade Center is somebody made an interesting point that there's about 30,000-something toilets in the World Trade Center. And when that building came down, there were no toilets around to be found, and you know how hard it is to destroy a toilet. So there was some conjecture about a space-based weapon. So I'll just leave that for you to scratch your head over.

Yeah, well, I couldn't say yay or nay on it, but yes, I've read similar claims, and it is thought-provoking, okay? Appreciate that. And more thought-provoking on Monday morning, and if you have any thoughts about anything you've heard, missed a podcast, Billmyershow.com. Email Bill at Billmyershow.com, and we'll catch you Monday after a great weekend. The Medford Rifle and Pistol Club Spring Gun Show is this weekend. selection of antique and modern firearms, rifles, pistols,

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