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Starting point is 00:00:00 The Bill Meyer Show podcast is sponsored by Clauser Drilling. They've been leading the way in Southern Oregon well drilling for over 50 years. Find out more about them at clauserdrilling.com. Here's Bill Meyer. Good morning. It is Monday, the 24th of March. 45 degrees, going to be a nice day. Gosh, could see mid-70s.
Starting point is 00:00:18 Maybe even set a record or two tomorrow. And then it's back to winter for a little while. So it's a little bit of that time of year, that transition season, where it's a little bit of a herky jerky. If I had been more ambitious yesterday, I would have mowed the lawn again and done some weeding and various other things, but I was not ambitious. So I worked on old tube radios because I just need a little bit of therapy. For some people, little bit of therapy. For some people yard work is
Starting point is 00:00:45 therapy. For me yard work is just pure drudgery, drudgery rather, but troubleshooting and fixing stuff to me that really that's really what makes me stand up and cheer I suppose. Speaking of standing up and cheer, a good Lincoln Day dinner over the weekend just like it was a great Patriots conference in Josephine County over the weekend, the prior weekend there. And the local community Republican parties starting to raise money trying to get things back in order. Jackson County Republicans in a bit of a rebuilding mode, and that's been happening. The old regime got a little sideways with a few things,
Starting point is 00:01:25 but I would just say things are getting better onward and upward. And I tell you, Congressman Cliff Band is one of the two featured speakers. And we had Dr. Kim, who was the keynote speaker of the night, pretty amazing local entrepreneur. And she had moved here from, well, I guess she really escaped from Korea.
Starting point is 00:01:53 She had been born in Korea and was considered a curse on her family back in the 1940s because she was the eldest daughter. And so she had to become a Thai Kwon Do master, has all sorts of entrepreneurial businesses going on, everything from vineyards to computer issues. And it was quite an interesting story. What was also really interesting though is how cheerful Congressman Pence was.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And I even mentioned to him, because I ended up MCing the Lincoln Day dinner. And you know, what a difference a year makes because, you know, last year and the year before that, prior under the Biden administration, Congressman Pence, you could just tell it was sort of defensive. It's like, okay, hang dog. What are we going to do? Here we are in the opposition. And now we're in the majority. Of course, it's not much of a majority, which brings a different set of challenges with it. But still, good to see Congressman Cliff Benz. Of course, he was on the show on Friday and had a pretty good talk.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And he ended up talking about some of this. And I saw a story that reminded me of what Congressman Benz had talked about on Friday show and at the Lincoln Day dinner on Saturdayurday and it was a new york time story There was detailing chaos chaos and tumult and drama in the in the veterans administration and Cliff said well bill how many people had been cut from the veterans administration how many people have been laid off now remember? by the administration if I recall correctly he told me on Friday was 50, 60 thousand more had been hired just during the
Starting point is 00:03:32 Biden administration and now there's a half million people working for the VA and everyone's talking about the chaos and the gutting going on at the VA and I said I don't know I'm gonna going to say maybe a couple thousand, because I figured there's a lot of making of drama or a lot of, shall we say, distorting of what's really going on in some of these federal agencies. He says, yeah, I think it was like 2,400 that he was talking about. He talked about it in the speech on Friday. And so we always have to remember this as we see the
Starting point is 00:04:05 hissy fitting just continuing. And a lot of this is Astro Turf, even Chuck Schumer pretty much admitted over the weekend that yeah, we're sending people here, we're sending people there. Yes. In other words, they're sending random mobs just about everywhere to to make trouble. Okay, all right. So so you have you fire what 2400 people out of a half million. It's barely a rounding number, barely a rounding number. You could probably go into most any organization
Starting point is 00:04:33 that had a half million employees and then fire 2500 of them. And you know, chances are would not be gutting the organization, but yeah, this is the immunity system really of the blob, the blob, this is the immunity system really of the blob the blob the foreign poly foreign policy and and government workers sort of You know circulatory system that is Washington DC Now it's not to say that what's happening with Doge and all the rest of it is always is always smart or always well organized
Starting point is 00:05:00 Some of it has not been too too smart and they've had to reverse but you're going to make some mistakes along the way. Looking here a little closer to home, I mean this is interesting, this is in Willamette Week. And I've wondered about this for a long long time. Oregon lawmakers make a full court press on literacy. But some advocates say House Bill 3040 does not include features that have helped other states turn their reading scores around.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Now, you know, when it comes right down to it, public school accomplishment in the state of Oregon is real challenging right now. Depending on who you talk to, we're 49th, another source says that we're number 45. Let's just say, okay, let's be kind. We'll say that we're 45th best school, best schools in the country. And I think one of the places which is worse than us is Puerto Rico. So, okay, so we're one notch higher than Puerto Rico. Boy, that's something to write home about, right? That is something, not really. But the big challenge, and I was talking about this last week with you and I forget which guest I was talking to, maybe it was Noah Robinson, maybe someone else, but for me what
Starting point is 00:06:15 made the difference was being able to read. My mother knew how to read. She was a good reader. My father knew how to read, but he didn't really enjoy reading, so I wouldn't have really gotten that from him or received that from him. I got that from my mother. And so reading is the key to unlocking the education experience. It's just fact of matter.
Starting point is 00:06:35 If you can't learn to read, you're not going to get to do anything else. We're not talking about the Socratic method. We're not sitting around there debating in classrooms. You need to be able to read and absorb some of this information. So what the state legislature comes up with is House Bill 3040. And it will amend Oregon's Early Literacy Success Initiative to address key gaps. Okay, well, obviously it must not have been successful in doing anything, otherwise they wouldn't be talking about amending it.
Starting point is 00:07:06 But the initiative, which was a 20-23 effort to increase literacy for students from birth to third grade, provides money for districts to use on things including tutoring, curriculum, and teacher training. Teacher training? Aren't we hiring teachers that came out of the teaching colleges? Don't they teach how to teach reading? Do they not do that in teachers' colleges? I don't know, maybe they don't.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So this all was in response to Oregon's dismally low reading scores. This is from Willamette Week, by the way, I'm taking this from. Only 42% less than half of students posted as proficient in English and language arts. It has a response to the nationwide shift to embrace the science of reading. The science of reading? Really? The science of reading? Maybe within the so-called solutions of this we can maybe see the germ of the problem,
Starting point is 00:08:16 but I'll get back to that here in just a minute. At a Wednesday hearing on this bill, this is House Bill 3040 once again, members of the Governor's Office of the Oregon Government Department of Education emphasize that the new bill will strengthen and refine the initiative. It will increase the emphasis on approaches that have worked in other states, instructing the Oregon Department of Education to support school districts in selecting evidence-based curriculum. Evidence-based curriculum, I think, is one of those code words for more of that common core stuff, isn't it? And also, expanding professional development opportunities to train teachers on how to
Starting point is 00:08:53 teach that curriculum. Having served on the Governor's Council on Literacy and Dealing with our Teacher Prep Institutions, this is the piece that was missing. This according to Representative Boomer Wright, a Republican from Coos Bay, saying at a Wednesday hearing on the bill, this is important that we get into the classroom and give our teachers the practice and the training they need to make sure they know how to deal with the science of reading. How did we ever deal with the science of reading back in the 1600s, 1700s, 1800s, even the
Starting point is 00:09:28 1900s back in the bad old days? The science of reading, doesn't that strike you as we're going to make this so utterly complex? Doesn't that strike you as we're going to make this so utterly complex, something which is relatively simple, really? I wonder, and I don't know, I don't know, I'm kind of just taking this from a Willamette Week story, so. The bill will also instruct ODE to study early literacy and strategies to help students learn how to read. It has garnered a number of supporters, including the Oregon Education Association.
Starting point is 00:10:11 I see that's the Teachers' Union. The Teachers' Union doesn't normally support anything that doesn't actually get more money into teachers' pockets, usually. The Coalition of Oregon School Administrators and Stand for Children, an education advocacy non-profit. It's actually a hard left non-profit. Let's be real. But a number of literacy advocates oppose the bill in written testimony writing that as long as school districts get to dictate how their money is spent, Oregon won't see
Starting point is 00:10:42 the turnaround in literacy that other states have. Now the way it's been explained to me by other teachers, I don't have any kids in this school so I can't tell you what my experience has been. And for the longest time Oregon was kind of a big deal on teaching whole language in which they wouldn't teach you to sound out the words. which they wouldn't teach you to sound out the words. And one of the big weaknesses of whole language, which has been one of the biggest educational experiments ever done on our children, in my opinion, is that the kids don't understand the building blocks of the language. That a CH sound can be a CH in certain things and SH in others, you know, those sort of things and how you deal with NGs and INGs, you know, the various other ways of building it.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And my mother just taught me, well, I guess, well, today would be called the science of reading. Well, she didn't have the science of reading. She just knew how to read. And so she would teach you how, well, she taught me and taught the other kids too. I don't know if she, if Diana cared, Diana wasn't much of a reader, but she taught us all. But I remember it was like sounding out the words, getting the building blocks of the words, not looking at full words and just knowing, oh, that's dog. I said the dog, you know, well, yeah. And that's the way it worked for
Starting point is 00:12:04 me. Now, maybe the science of reading doesn yeah. And that's the way it worked for me. Now maybe the science of reading doesn't work for everyone, but it sure did for me. I have a sneaking suspicion that when Oregon's looking for a one size fits all or a top-down approach, maybe that's because some districts are wanting to go back to more of a phonics kind of method. I mean there's a company made millions back in
Starting point is 00:12:29 the 1980s, remember all the ads, hooked on phonics, the kids learn to read, get the reading tutor and all this sort of stuff, hooked on phonics, and parents were so desperate that they were buying this. Well, if they're buying it from hooked on phonics, obviously they're not getting it from the government school system. So what I really would appreciate, if there's anybody who is actually teaching in schools, if they could tell me if there is still kind of a whole language component of reading, or are they going to phonics? Because I remember a couple of years ago, there was talk that you were going to be going to more phonics. Now if this is talking about getting
Starting point is 00:13:07 more phonics into the classroom, well maybe that's probably helpful. But if the Oregon Education Association is in favor with it, I'm just very suspicious. Very suspicious. And other people were very suspicious about this too. I ended up getting an email. In fact, I'm going to give this guy an email of the day. Larry Smith. Larry Smith writes me from Jacksonville. And he says, Bill, the talk last week centered around the drop in reading scores in Oregon, especially among high school students.
Starting point is 00:13:40 The assistant head of education for Oregon said we can do better. And why don't they? And her solution? They need more money. The assistant head of education for Oregon said we can do better. And why don't they? And her solution? They need more money. I've been in the classroom for 58 years that have seen a growing trend that no matter how much money they pour into the problem, it doesn't get fixed. They always want more money to solve every problem.
Starting point is 00:14:00 We need to face reality in this matter. I was talking to a high school teacher this week, and Larry says often only half of her students even bother to show up, and those that do are often late. How can they learn if they're not here? I was talking to an elementary school teacher earlier this week. A third of his class shows up tardy every day. Back when kids rode school buses, they arrived on time. Now that parents feel the need to drive their kids to school buses, they arrived on time. Now that parents
Starting point is 00:14:25 feel the need to drive their kids to school, they often show up late. I've often wondered about that, Larry. Thank you for bringing that up. The absenteeism and tardiness shows a lack of respect for school. This has a direct effect on the kids and their readiness to learn. I was talking to another high school teacher last week who told me that her school rules on phones was a joke. The kids just don't pay attention to the rules. They're constantly distracted. Who wants to read when you can text using your thumbs? Most teachers have just given up. They don't want to battle, or they do want to battle their kids.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think maybe he meant to say they don't want to battle the kids. Teachers have also told me that the kids are coming to school high on marijuana, clear down to kindergarten. Parents are blowing smoke on them. Marijuana destroys their brains. How could a kid even want to learn growing up in a drug-infested home, alcohol included? Not learning to write cursive has a direct effect on how students view learning and the way they express their writings on paper. That is another whole project or subject. Striking a key does not have the same effect as the letter of word flowing off the end of a pen or pencil. Screen time. Students often spend an hour or two working on their Chromebooks at school.
Starting point is 00:15:38 They're constantly being bombarded with electromagnetic waves. Electromagnetic waves everywhere, brains being microwaved. And I could go on and on about the distractions that are deterring kids from learning. Basically, school is an irritation to their social life. Throwing more money into the schools to fix the reading problem is going to be a waste until society fixes itself. Really interesting. Larry, thank you. I'm going to give you an email of the day. That's another sign of this because the state of Oregon, the full press on literacy, says more money and Larry Smith is saying,
Starting point is 00:16:10 I don't know. It's like the solution is always more money. Now the problem with the kids being distracted, the kids not showing up, yep, that's a family and a cultural issue there. I didn't have that problem. I showed up at school and I was quite attentive. It kind of worked for me. But though my mother also taught me to read. I knew how to read before I was able to go into school. I was reading a lot better than my peers, much better.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And that ended up helping me get the most out of a education system that probably even 50 years ago in the 1970s was declining. Most likely not nearly as rigorous as what my mother and father had in the 1940s and 50s. Just saying. I don't claim to have a solution for this right now, But when they're talking about a full court press on literacy, and I'm not here and talk about phonics, or...and all I'm hearing is that we just need more money,
Starting point is 00:17:14 and we need more training for teachers, the question I would have for you, given that my mother, who did not go to college, was able to teach me how to read, how much training do you need? How much college education training do you need, and programs from the state do you need, to teach a child to read? It's a serious question. My mother was not a professional, did not go to college. She just had a K-12 education. What is it about the Oregon Department of Education that seems to need more money and training?
Starting point is 00:18:02 I'm just a little confused about it, so please help me with my confusion if you could. I think this is going to be a longer term conversation, but that's what we're here for. You're on the Bill Meyer show. It's amazing. What's right under your floor can impact your whole house. Musty smells, wall cracks, uneven floors, doors and windows that stick. These could all be your home sending you warning signs that there's a problem. But one simple call can be the and it's easy to miss important facts or get stuck with Call TaraFirm today. me, Lynn Barton, at 541-499-0958 or find me at SkyparkINS.com and let me make Medicare
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Starting point is 00:20:19 A lot of parents used to do that. What happened? I mean, we didn't need, you know, we didn't need science, the science of reading to tell us what was going on. Where are we on that, huh? Well, Bill, I tell you, the big battle going on in the country right now and across the globe is between our ears, mind control. And I always say that's the, you know, the site World War Three. And making sure that kids can't read or think is very important in that agenda. And I think that's really coming from higher up.
Starting point is 00:20:59 So you believe it's an intentional, an intentional dumb down then? Not by accident? Well, you know, you had Charlotte Iserby, The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America, that's the book she wrote, and going into it, of course, you had many talks with Diane Anderson about the communization, indoctrination going on with kids. You see it with the Ashland High School, you know, poor kids are so damn ignorant and they think that they're saving the planet by banning gas and, you know, natural gas in Ashland. Yeah, yeah, ban modern civilization and we'll save the planet, you know, that kind of thing. Yeah, and all the, you know, like I say, Alan Trenet and his merry band of climate fanatics. But do you think we can survive,
Starting point is 00:21:50 do you think we can survive the intellectual bankrupting of our country? I don't know. Well, that's the ongoing question of whether we're gonna survive at all. I mean, we got, I don't like Trump's idea of, you know, going more war and so forth. There's so many things going on and so many issues going on, but the ability to read and to think about issues seems to be the real
Starting point is 00:22:19 problem that's going on. The issue of reading. Yeah, well, I'm looking at how so often in this story, this Willamette Week story, he's talking about this House Bill 3040, supposedly fixed reading, and they want to get everybody into the science of reading. I don't think there's any science involved with reading. It's pretty much a... Straight forward. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:42 I was kind of curious about when I still remember sitting down in first grade and there was the blackboard but above the blackboard was the entire alphabet going across the top of the blackboard. Big great big letters and so forth. A B C D E and we sang the song, you know, the alphabet song. Yeah. And it was done rote by rote. You know, these were not considered technically creative things. And of course, I know there was a big push, oh, rote learning is bad. I think, wait a minute, rote learning was able to give you the concepts of something
Starting point is 00:23:20 to start with, and then you were able to expand out and get the bigger principles, and like multiplication tables, and rather than the way math is being taught at the moment in which parents cannot even help their children because it is so nonsensical, the way math is being currently discussed. So it does seem to be an intentional process. But yeah, science of reading, I'm really confused. I'm disheartened when I see that because it, thank you for the call by the way, Tom.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It strikes me as a fix that's not really a fix. I could be wrong, but hi, good morning. This is Bill, who's this? Welcome. Hi Bill, this is Vicki from the application. Hi Vicki, what's going on in your mind? Um, you know, the schools are so dependent on money and I believe what's happening is if you study to be a teacher you should not have to have more education because you already
Starting point is 00:24:16 know how to read. Obviously you know how to read, otherwise you wouldn't have been a teacher. So obviously the process in which they're teaching reading must be flawed because you're right. All the teachers coming out of the and unfortunately coming out of most of the teaching colleges are white, left-wing, liberal women, you know, in charge of the education system. We just have to call that as it is, okay? Right. And so obviously there's a disconnect between what they know how to do and then how it's getting to the children and then supposedly
Starting point is 00:24:48 there needs to be more money and more training, which I don't quite understand. Where am I wrong about this? It's a mystery to me. Okay, so as far as the money, I know that over the decades they have increased the money per child that's in the school. If these kids are skipping school or coming in late, they have increased the money per child that's in the school. If these kids are skipping school or coming in late, they have to make up, if it's a known absence, they don't get that money for that day. So I believe that they are trying to go around the bush and get money to make up for the kids that aren't showing up to school. All right thank you very much appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:25:31 7705633. Hi Jane, give me a wrap up on this one huh? Yeah I was talking about the Titanic and JP Morgan. It seems like JP Morgan kind of owned a tent company that built the Titanic. And he had it all scheduled to go out on the inaugural cruise, but he backed off at the last minute, like he knew it was gonna sink.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But three of his banker friends that were competitors, they were on the Titanic. Oh yeah? Yeah, so it seems to me that JP Morgan maybe had something to do with the thinking of the Titanic. Okay, it's not conspiracy theory Thursday though. Does that really matter anymore at all? Yeah, maybe you're right.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Maybe you're the right one. All right, Gene, thanks for the call. Scott, Scott Walter joins me. We're going to talk about the conspiratorial, democratic, dark money machine next. Got a mess with the IRS or a tax state with the state? You may need representation. Visit firstresponseirs.com. First Response Resolution, your local tax resolution experts in Eagle Point,
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Starting point is 00:29:38 Capital Research Center. It's a research center but you're kind of like a research think tank of sorts. Isn't that the case here, Scott? Why don't you tell me what the main mission is once again for those that don't know? Sure. Well, the main mission is simple. We investigate the left deeply and expose it widely. We like to call ourselves America's investigative think tank. We don't produce white papers with statistics.
Starting point is 00:30:04 We dig deep into how the left actually operates. I ended up getting an email from your group last week and I wanted to talk with you a bit about this and it was discussing more or less the dark money machine of the Democratic Party. And the letter was indicating that it appears to be under stress. Would you tend to agree with that or maybe you could explain that a bit further here. And what is the dark money machine of choice that is having difficulty getting filled these days for the Democratic Party, which does not really bother me,
Starting point is 00:30:35 but it's good to know what mechanisms they were using because they could be revived at some point. What do you think? Yeah, sure. Well, the largest quote unquote dark money machine for the left would be the network that's operated by Arabella advisors. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:30:52 That's a half dozen nonprofits. That's where the checks go is the nonprofits, but it's operated by a for-profit called Arabella advisors. And they had a spectacular twenty twenty in revenues their revenue shot up. Almost two and a half times. And I think then while they still are more than a
Starting point is 00:31:15 billion a year as far as the amount of money coursing through the network- they've actually- it actually dropped 22% from that high. I through twenty twenty, the most recent data that's available. So they've seen money falling off, they have a very serious lawsuit, they're battling from a black woman who accused them of racism as well as violating nonprofit law.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So they are struggling. And then of course, ActBlue is the top fundraising platform for the left, for the small dollar donors for the left. Arabella works more for the billionaires. And ActBlue seems to be just imploding. They had seven top employees leave a couple of weeks ago, including the entire legal compliance staff, or so the New York Times tells me. Is there any evidence that the DAC Blue or Mirabella somehow ends up getting affected by what's going on at Doge right now, when you have one hand maybe washing the other in
Starting point is 00:32:23 Washington, D.C, within the actual government structure and the NGO world. Is there any thoughts on that? Well, the Trump administration certainly could be expected to clash with some of these folks in various ways. Doge is not the main way Doge is not the main way because the Act Blue and Arabella don't get hardly anything in the way of federal funding. Okay, all right. I'm just kind of like wondering though if friendlies for some reason end up working within the federal government system and then when all of a sudden you say you're going to shut down a lot of USAID, as an example,
Starting point is 00:33:09 or various other departments of the federal government, if all of a sudden ActBlue or AmeriBella type of nonprofit is not able to perhaps leverage federal money and influence as much. I'm always kind of wondering, you know, the shadowy webs and interconnectedness that we don't necessarily know about, which you discover a lot over at Capital Research Center.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Well, we do have, I'll give you a new website that we've put up, thedogefiles.org and that is our deep dive looks at the grant agency by agency. So we have USAID and Education Department and HHS and HUD and state and more. But as it turns out the Axe Blue and Arabella themselves don't really get significant federal funding. But on the other hand, that doesn't mean that the new administration couldn't be at odds with them elsewhere, including the regulations on the nonprofit world and the investigations and examinations of what's going on in the nonprofit world, those certainly might produce conflict with Arabella in Act Blue. Okay.
Starting point is 00:34:37 Scott Walter with me, Capital Research Center. It's America's investigative think tank. So Doge File is definitely going to want to read more on this. And I'm going to want to contribute to your group here too, because I'm glad that there's someone actually investigating this rather than just, you know, hoping that the Gateway Pundit, you know, comes up with a story, you know, that kind of thing. What about the issues with rental mobs here? I've noticed that the Republican Party of folks, I was talking with Congressman Cliff Pence here, Scott, and he came into town over the weekend. And there has been a rise of what they're trying to make it look like, grassroots resistance
Starting point is 00:35:20 to the Trump policy. And I start thinking about Arabella and I start thinking about ActBlue and these various other groups that you have also you know investigated and then you hear Chuck Schumer over the weekend the senator talking about oh yeah we're sending people here we're sending people there we're sending people you know you know to to confront the Republicans everywhere they go. Well if they're having to send people there, that strikes me that it's not particularly organic. That'd be a fair assessment.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Where does the money for that kind of stuff come from? Is that through Act Blue and various similar shadowy-type groups? Yes. The left doesn't just have more money than conservatives. It also has enormously greater muscles for organizing protests than conservatives do. So it is, you know, it is not at all a purely grassroots thing the way that, for instance, the Tea Party was, you know, back in a prior administration. The conservatives just simultaneously doing this. So you have lots of things involved. One of my
Starting point is 00:36:30 personal favorites, there's a group called Families Over Billionaires, and you're supposed to think that that's ordinary Americans angry that the tax cuts would be renewed, right? Well, yeah, but, you know, every time I hear something like that, families over billionaires, I can't help but suspect, and maybe this is just my cynicism, Scott, but it's been organized by a billionaire or two. No, no, exactly. It's billionaires allegedly for families over billionaires. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:03 It is, surprise, surprise, it is a completely fake group set up by the Arabella Network and featuring multiple partners, because you see there's so many people and groups upset about this, except most of those partners are either inside the Arabella Network or getting money from the Arabella Network. It's just pathetic and laughable the second you look into it. The Free Press had a good article about families over billionaires. So if you just search Free Press, families over billionaires, you'll find a great investigative piece using some of our research and quoting us about this preposterous fak bakery. What do you think are the chances that the Trump administration may be successful at
Starting point is 00:37:50 finding a way to dial down the influences of these kind of shadowy big democratic money machines here? Because it has the appearance of impropriety, but it's most likely not legal. Or might there be some examples where it's not legal too? Looking at a way to fight this, it's one thing to expose it and talk about it, but if they're still doing their work, there's an issue. Well, I think the answer is that usually,
Starting point is 00:38:22 it is theoretically legal for them to operate the way they're operating in theory. But nonprofit laws are very complex, so there's a lot of T's you have to cross and I's you have to dot to keep everything kosher. And my suspicion is that they are so used to operating with impunity that they probably aren't doing a good job of carefully complying with all the laws. The lawsuit against Arabella definitely suggests that because it seems to show that an Arabella
Starting point is 00:38:55 C3, which is a charity, legally speaking, was actually outrunning an outside C4, which is a political nonprofit like League of Conservation Voters or NRA, that is not kosher if that really happened and boy the evidence seems strong that it did. So might the weak link or the inflection point then to you know reducing the influence of these shadowy organizations being just to enforce the tax laws or the nonprofit status and the C3, the C4s, all the various others. In other words, a little more oversight from the government. Is that what I'm hearing? Well, I would not be surprised if that happened. But by the way, don't sell yourself short,
Starting point is 00:39:42 right? What we're describing here is Wizard of Oz operations, right? The wizard is really scary when Dorothy first sees the wizard. Big, scary, fabulous production values, you might say. But once the dog pulls the curtain back and you see it's just an old guy at a microphone, well then the wizard doesn't have the power to scare Dorothy and affect Dorothy much. So what you're doing by educating people on this
Starting point is 00:40:06 is a huge part of the solution. Well, that I'm glad to hear. Scott Walter, and once again, it is Capital Research Center, capitalresearch.org is the website. Could you tell us a little bit more about Influence Watch? This is something you've been really proud of here, what people can find out more about who's influencing whom. That's good stuff
Starting point is 00:40:25 yes that is that are we could be a of the special influencers over fourteen but it's an online in fact what peter and has over fourteen thousand entries we're talking union and foundation and donors and you know movement like the Green New Deal, just staggering amount of information, looks and feels like Wikipedia. Everything's interconnected. Everything is documented. The one thing I do want to warn your listeners though, the first time you jump on that site,
Starting point is 00:40:58 you're probably kissing five hours of your life goodbye because you're going to go down so many rabbit holes. So in other words, you go to really delve into it and then start connecting this dot to another dot to another dot to another dot and something tells me in Oregon we'll be able to find a lot of dots to connect okay and that's why you're so important. Well thank you. All right. Capitalresearch.org. Capitalresearch.org. It's just one of those groups which is not getting nearly as much attention as it should and we want to help do our best to help this because they're doing work behind the scenes and putting together the information. You just have to find it through them and connect some dots and maybe we can get
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Starting point is 00:43:46 Welcome to the Bill Meyers show on 1063 KMED. Give Bill a call at 541-770-5633. That's 770 KMED. Six before seven, 770-5633, like the man had mentioned in there. 770-5633. got an email from Kevin Sterritt that I was gonna share because he ended up writing an email to House Republican leader Christine Drazen.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And this had to do with House Bill 3075. This is the one that would end up essentially Measure 114 on steroids, even worse than measure 114. Representative Drazen House Bill 3075 will be on the floor shortly. Let me get to the point. Should this bill pass all our legal efforts to block measure 114 or moot, the lawyers have informed me that both our federal and state cases cease to exist which means hundreds of thousands of dollars of Oregon's Second Amendment supporters have spent will be meaningless because of this. The bill will, for all intents and purposes, end legal gun transfers for all but the wealthiest
Starting point is 00:44:54 and best connected Oregonians, if even then. Gun shops in Oregon will close, many have already given up, and their employees will be out of work. The most vulnerable people in our state will be denied the means to protect themselves and their families. Thousands of Oregonians will become criminals instantly as a result of the magazine ban. I'm confident you know this. You also know that for all the press releases and bluster about fighting for Oregonians,
Starting point is 00:45:19 your caucus has no power. You cannot pass or block anything unless the Democrats approve. You have certainly learned the futility of making deals with them. The only purpose the Oregon Republicans serve at this point is to provide a quorum for the Democrats to pass whatever they want and of course to continue your political careers, which as of now are 100% for show. Without the Democrats' approval, your caucus is completely impotent. You have one tool to stand in the way of this horrendous and clearly unconstitutional attack on the rights of your constituents and the constituents of your caucus members, that is to refuse to participate in the charade.
Starting point is 00:45:56 If you try to excuse staying on the floor because if you walked there will be legislation or ballot measures to change the quorum, people will recall that was the excuse used in the past so that there would be no ballot measure to punish people for walkouts. And you got them anyway. Similarly, the Democrats will do all they can to change the quorum no matter what you do. If 3075 passes, there will be low legal recourse that has any chance of success. If it does not, Oregon gun owners at least buy some time in the courts. And no matter what the outcome of that is, it gives them a chance to prepare or move out of the state.
Starting point is 00:46:29 I think, while I hope that you'll agree that a state whose leaders rely on transgender turtles for mental health advice is in serious decline, there is no more time to pretend you can deal with these people in good faith. I strongly, strongly urge you to refuse to participate in the insanity. If your people are on the floor for this bill, as passage will be your responsibility, and for anyone who is paying attention, there will be no reason to vote for a Republican in the future." Kevin Sterritt.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Now, everything that Kevin Sterritt said is true. It is the truth. Absolutely no doubt about this. And it's as serious as a heart attack, measure 3075, 3076, and various other ones. There's a lot of carnage coming this way. And what he got back from Representative Drazen speaks volumes. Kevin, thank you for your email. Democrats are set on taking away our
Starting point is 00:47:26 Second Amendment rights and we need your help in this fight. House Bill 3075 is a dangerous attack on gun owners and threatens to block access to gun ownership. Yada yada yada, everything like that. House Republicans are standing up for the rights of Oregonians. We've done it before and we will do it again. But the reality is that Tina Koteck and her Democrat allies in Salem have us surrounded. I have walked out, I have run for governor, I have returned to the legislature to keep fighting, I will never stop fighting for your rights and future of our state. But we need to work together. We need
Starting point is 00:47:57 your help to overwhelm the inboxes and voicemail boxes of the Democrats that are pushing House Bill 3075. I need you to contact the Speaker of the House, Representative Julie Fahey, and Representative Krop, author of HB 3075. I also urge you to contact Democrats on the Judiciary Committee and tell them to stop attacking our Second Amendment rights and vote no on House Bill 3075. Please find the contact information below. And then here's the number for for Fahey and Krop. My question for you this morning,
Starting point is 00:48:35 when Democrats have been pushing gun control and tell their constituents that they are going to push gun control and they're putting gun control everywhere and they have the votes to pass it and the only thing that we can do is walk out to stop it from being passed in the first place. What does represent? Now I have no doubt this was a form letter. I'm sure that there was a 12 year old staffer that saw it coming and they're like, okay, here, send them the gun control email response.
Starting point is 00:49:06 It's obviously an email response or a form letter response, that kind of thing. We have Representative Drazen, who knows that the Democrats intend to do this, tell their constituents they're going to do it, and that the way to fight it is to not walk out and deny them the ability to pass it, but to call the Democrats? Does that make sense? Does that make sense that the House Republican leader is saying call the Democrats to stop House Bill 3075 from passing? They have the votes. They have more than enough votes to do it, but they need the Republicans present there. I was talking both to State Rep. Kim Wallin and also E. Warner Reschke.
Starting point is 00:50:06 They were both at a Lincoln Day dinner over the weekend. And they both told me that there is not broad support for a walkout. Well, if there's not broad support for a walkout, doesn't that mean that our problems, as bad as they are with the Democrats, we're not going to fix the Democrats' problem. Well, the Democrats don't look at it as a problem. They have the votes. They can cram anything down our throats that they want, if they want to, unless we use
Starting point is 00:50:39 the one tool. Now, the thing is you don't want to be walking out all the time but when the worst of the worst are coming up here and arguably measure 30 or a house bill 3075 is some of the worst of the worst if you've walked out before why can't you walk out again now if you tell me it's measure 113, the only reason measure 113 matters at this point is because Tim Cnoop, when there was the last walkout that happened last time, he didn't demand that the Republicans' absences were excused. That's how you do it.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Everybody knows this is how you can do it. If the Democrats want to be able to send money to the NGOs and the stabbing wagons of this world and keep Oregon Health Authority funded and all the rest of it, it's the only thing that they need the Republicans for at this point. Well, we need them to stop the gun grab bills. We need them to protect our rights. And there's some other bills that are really, really bad. You walk out, you stop them from doing business
Starting point is 00:51:50 until they A, kill the bills that are the worst of the worst in here and then excuse our absences. And then we go back in. The Democrats are doing what the Democrats promised their people they were going to do. Our people, the Republicans, need to do what they promised to do. And it's not to show up at the state legislature, but it is to represent us. And sometimes to represent us, you have to not play the Democrats game. You have to remove their ability to conduct business and to pass everything in the
Starting point is 00:52:30 past budgets. It'll be hard. But the hard things are important to do. That's why we need to do them in my opinion. So I would highly recommend, frankly folks, I know that if Christine Drazen is telling everybody to call the Democrats, we need to call Christine Drazen. And we need to call all the other Republicans and tell them to get over this fear of walking out because otherwise there's no Oregon for you to worry about running for re-election next time. And yeah, the Democrats will probably end up getting rid of the quorum power at some point.
Starting point is 00:53:11 They'll find a way to do it. They'll change it. They'll find a way to do it. They have the votes to do it. But the Republicans have this power, what's left of this power right now. And if they don't use it, then whatever happens to the Republicans deserves to happen to them, I guess. But the problem is, you and I have to pay the price. So don't bother calling the Democrats. I mean, you can call the Democrats if you want. But as far as I'm concerned, Representative Drazin
Starting point is 00:53:40 is passing the buck and hoping that you won't notice.

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