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Episode Date: March 24, 2026

Former fed prosecutor John Oconnor explains why instead of being glad Robert Mueller died, he should be grateful that Mueller protected Trump. An interesting story. Open for Business with Cheriesse at No Wires, Email of the day, too.

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I bought a copy of it. It is a great read. He's an experienced trial lawyer, too, practicing law in the Bay Area since 1972. He's tried cases, state and federal court, served as assistant U.S. attorney in Northern California in the mid to late 70s, still in private practice today. Archie John, welcome back. Good having you on. Yeah.

Yeah, I am, my bill. I hate to say, I'm still practicing. I'm not yet a good lawyer. I still practicing. You haven't learned everything you could, right? That sort of thing. Right. But a sharp legal mind, and I always appreciate that.

You know, Robert Mueller ended up dying over the weekend, and President Trump receiving some incoming over that because he ended up stating in there. I think it was on Truth Social, Truth Social Post, that he's glad he died. Now, I can certainly understand him having hard feelings about Robert Mueller. I don't know. And your president, though, do you kind of be president of everyone?

How do you see this? Because I guess you were friends with Mueller. You actually knew Mueller? Right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I was friends with him for five years when we worked together, and then I have mutual friends who kept up with him better. I'll tell you a funny story. One of his good friends from Princeton was my good buddy out here in California. He played on the football team and was Muller's and his eating club and all that at Princeton. And so when he got appointed his head of the FBI, maybe 20 of us here in the Bay Area where Bob had lived for a while,

we had a roast for him at my tennis club. And we're going to sit out on the picnic tables and really let him have a few rips. So we had made up. I have a tie in my closet that the buddy and I put together. And it's a club tie with a picture of Bob Mueller on it saying Captain America. Captain America. Captain America. And unfortunately, the roast was September set for something like September 14, 2001.

And needless to say, we never had the roast. But he is a wonderful guy. He's very, very buttoned up. He's really a perfect prosecutor always wasn't. Are you speaking of Mueller or your friend that you knew? No, no. My friend was an ad guy. He was Mueller's buddy.

And Mueller was a – and I kept up – and so I've kept up sort of vicariously with Mueller through the years. And then guys here, he came back to be head U.S. attorney in San Francisco, and I was no longer in the office and kept up with him, sort of vicariously through my friends. And he was a button-up guy. He had, he worked hard. He worked selflessly. Well, the thing is, I remember when he was appointed to this, even though I thought the whole

Russian, the Russia gate investigation was just total BS, all right? And of course, he ended up saying that, essentially, you know, at the end of it. But I remember both sides of the political aisle were praising the selection of Robert Mueller. Were they not? I remember that they were talking about. about his reputation of the time, but it kind of went south over time, didn't it? Well, here's why. Here's why. He's a straight arrow, these straightest, the straight arrows. He was sort of a liberal Republican, but you never knew how he felt about anything.

And he never was outspoken about any political issue. But he, and he was a dogged prosecutor, and he was very fair man. But here's the problem. As Scott Besson says, you have to live, you can't understand how Trump feels when he went through this thing. The problem was what Trump does not know, and I just wrote an article about this, and I ought to come out soon, but what they don't realize is Bob was losing his fastball at the end, but in any case he had all the deputies he had in that office of the special counsel were anti-Trump haters. And so they were really gunning to get Trump. And remember this, when you're in a special counsel's office, you're a hammer and your subject is a nail.

You are there to nail him. You're not there to say, you know, maybe we'll prosecute them. Maybe we won't, as you would in a regular prosecutor's office. You're there kind of sort of saying, if this guy's guilty, you're going to prosecute him. It's none of this stuff like prosecutorial discretion. Oh, we won't charge this guy. It's not like a standard DA approach to prosecution, in other words. Exactly.

Exactly. TheAs all over the country are declining prosecution on cases that they can get a guilty verdict. In this case, you had these rabid guys, and as Mueller got weaker and weaker physically, he could not hold them down. And he did the right thing. And what I say is, thank God Trump should get on his knees and thank God that Rob Mueller was in there. Why is that? Because any of these other deputies, if Mueller had kicked back and said, hey, I'm sick, I can't do this anymore, they would have indicted Trump. And this would have been

a firestorm. This country would have been torn apart because there were no realistic charges. So what Mueller was trying to do was his office incorrectly so, we're wondering whether or not they could depose Trump. If they could get the deposition of Donald Trump, he would probably lie and they would probably charge him for some minor, you know, denial of something. Well, it would be a process crime, kind of like if you lie to the FBI, right? That's right. And that's a Comey special. So Comey was the guy who set up the special counsel's office to begin with. He was the guy that urged Rod Rosenstein to do this. And it was always about getting a process crime. They had no real crime at all. And I'm not making that up.

the crime that they fabricated to justify an investigation, as they said, well, firing James Comey might be, might be an obstruction of justice. Well, that's not an obstruction of justice. You can fire your subordinate. So the reason, but the reason they needed that was just so that they could have the fig leaf of a basis for a prosecution. And we got it. We got him.

And then process crime. Now you get the process crime. And remember Comey, whether it's Martha Stewart, Scooter, Libby of Michael Flynn, George Popp's office. He's in to process crimes. He traps people, fools around them, scares him, and then they lie, okay? Or obstruct justice, hide a piece of evidence. That's what they were trying to do. So the story of the Russia Gate investigation was Mueller, quite correctly, saw that he should not try to depose Trump because Trump's aide, Don McGahn had come in and spent three days telling the office, telling Mueller's office,

everything they needed to know about Trump. That was very important because then you have an argument before the judge. You can't depose this president because you can get your information from alternative means. And so Don McGahn was brilliant. He came up with a strategy to keep Trump from being deposed, and therefore he's not going to lie, and therefore they're not going to charge him. And so Don McGahn was a big hero, and then Mueller, quite correctly and quite butted up, said we don't have a case here. Meanwhile, even though they didn't depose him, his aides wanted to indict him anyway, just for other different little things that Trump might do, you know, ridiculous little things, but they were going to indict him. In spite of it. In spite of

of the fact that he wasn't going to be deposed, they thought, well, this other conduct, when he did this or said that, that's obstruction. And they still claim to this day that there were like 10 or 11 acts of obstruction, which are just little petty things. They're nothing. But they would have indicted him, and only because of Robert Mueller and his steadfast, solid view of this, he was not indicted. Now, Mueller at this point was energetic. enough to say no to indictment, but not energetic enough to really spearhead writing the Mueller report. He probably didn't write a sentence in the final report. So he was in real physical decline at that point. We know this now, right? Yeah, in hindsight, it looks like he had beginning Parkinson's and

probably beginning dementia. Okay. And you could tell by his testimony in 2019 that he had, he had cognitive issues. He barely could answer questions at that, I think it was a Senate hearing. It might have been a congressional, but it was a hearing in Congress talking about Russia Gate, and he barely could understand a question, and he had his aide, Zebelie, was sitting right next to him, kind of helping him out. But so my point is simply that he had enough, thank God for our country, He had enough energy to say no to an indictment, and he did say no. And the other guys to this day are saying, well, you know, we didn't prosecute Trump, but we couldn't exonerate him because he probably maybe committed obstruction on 10 or 12 items,

you know, little shambling little things. So honestly, then, you're saying that Robert Mueller is actually responsible for protecting President Trump from an improper prosecution, a sham case, really? Yes, Bill. Absolutely. And that's what Trump does not understand. That's why I just wrote an article. He had a wild office.

One of my good friends who was married to a former U.S. attorney here and married to her late husband was really good friends with Mueller. And she and I talked about this yesterday. and we both said he'd lost his fastball. He didn't have the mental acuity anymore, but thank God he was still in office because he was the guy who protected Trump from this. And there's just no doubt about it. And those guys were wild. You know, this guy, Wiseman was there, his aides, Zebly, and a couple other guys.

They were just bitter partisans. That whole office was wild and partisan, and they wanted Trump so bad. Well, they all had the Trump derangement syndrome. There was not a conservative among these people. And so the whole world is very, I mean, our political world would have been turned upside down. If we think there's division in the country now, just if Trump would have been indicted, that would have been something. Now, he also never would have been elected again had he been indicted. And so the whole world, our present history hung on Bob Mueller.

We would not be bombing, which I think is we have to do. We have to bomb around. We have to get rid of their capability. If it were not for Robert Mueller sticking in there and doing his duty, and he's a guy that would always answer the call to duty, he probably didn't really want to do this, but he answered the call to duty. And had he not done that, we'd be looking now at President Kamala Harris and who knows what would happen to this country. country. You know, it's a very good point, and I did not know that back story of Robert Mueller. And like I said, you knew him personally over the years, and it stayed in contact. And why was it not really known more outside of the office that those other prosecutors,

the staff were actually rogue prosecutors of sorts? Well, I think the wise people knew it. They, again, the people like the people like the New York Times would think they're just proper prosecutors. After all, they hate Trump. We wouldn't see anything wrong with that. So we have the major media covering for these guys right and left. And yeah, and all I can say is I knew it in my circles. Anybody asked me about it. This is a big hit job going on here. There never should have been a special counsel's office in the beginning because there was no, you need what they call a predicate crime. You cannot have a special counsel's office, unless you have the probable cause of crime have been committed.

And as one of the things I'm writing in my article now, they appointed a special counsel without this little pesky little thing of a crime. It's actually sort of admitted, and the deputies have a book out now, the three deputies do. But they just very cleverly admitted it without really letting the reader know what they were saying. Yeah, that we didn't have anything, really. But what we didn't have a crime, you cannot under the regulations, 600 CFR1, you can have a special counsel, but only if there is a probable crime against somebody with whom the DOJ would have a conflict of interest, in this case, Trump.

So you needed to have a crime on Trump to have a special counsel investigation. But they didn't even have a crime. So two or three weeks into this investigation, they all got together, Rosenstein and Mueller and these guys and said, hey, what's the predicate crime? We don't have one. And so they kind of made one up. And they said, oh, well, firing Comey might have been obstruction of justice. Well, they knew firing Comey was not obstruction of justice. You can fire an FBI director. Yeah, sure, anytime you want, for whatever reason. Any cause or no cause? And it doesn't make any difference. And when he was first fired, nobody said you didn't have cause to do it. Now, again, Trump did it in this normal blustery blunt way. But it is not a crime for firing Comey, even though you did feel that Comey was causing this anti-Russia prosecution against Trump.

He was letting the rumors swirl about Trump being. some kind of a Russian guy, whereas he wasn't. But so Trump admitted that he fired Comey because Comey would not publicly absolve him of any Russian connection. Comey told him in private three times, look, Mr. President, you're not the subject of this. It's a counterintelligence investigation. They had it wasn't a criminal investigation, so they didn't have any crime. And a counterintelligence investigation, you can only investigate, you need a

subject of it. You need somebody a suspected agent who is this guy, Carter Page. But he told Trump, you're not a subject to this, Mr. President, but he wouldn't say it publicly. And most people in the public thought that the Russia Gate investigation of Comey was a criminal investigation, that they're looking for crimes. They had no basis on this Russia gate investigation for a crime. And in our present situation, there's often a mistake, people mistake, a counterintelligence, investigation for a criminal investigation. And after 9-11, the justice system made sure that the criminal and the counterintelligence people were talking to each other, which was one of the reasons why 9-11 happens because they were separated. So therefore, what happens is prosecutors can often

use a counterintelligence investigation to try to dig up evidence to get a crime on somebody. That's what Comey was doing, but he hadn't found any. But he let the world think that this was a criminal investigation against Trump. And a lot of people were out there saying, oh, gosh, Trump must have colluded with Russians. He must have committed a crime. Whereas, in fact, there was none. Trump was upset because Comey was getting bad publicity against the president. And Obama had already been grandstanding about this Russian interference, which was a bunch of nothing.

So all of this was a bunch of hooey when Trump fires Comey. But there was no crime in him firing Comey. He fired him for a very legitimate reason. He was interfering with Trump's ability to do business with the Russians. You've got to talk to your geopolitical rival. You've got to get things straight. You don't want a World War III to start. But this was hampering Trump because if Trump had a conversation with Russia, everybody would say, oh, you're colluding with the Russians.

Well, you know, Democrats love the idea of talking to your enemies and having an open hand, not a closed fist, as Obama says, but yet in this silly Russia gate atmosphere. That got flipped on its head, yeah. All right. You know, isn't it scary to you, though, John O'Connor with me once again, author of Postgate, Postgatebook.com, by the way. What I wanted to touch on here, isn't it scary to think, though, that President Trump's faith, though, was hanging by a thread with Bob Mueller keeping.

these three rogue prosecutors, the staff in the special prosecutor's office at bay? I mean, isn't it scary that they existed in the first place, I guess is what I'm asking here? And what could be done about that of anything, John? Well, very little you can do. And as fate would happen, you had a Democrat, Rod Rosenstein, heading the DOJ, because Jeff Sessions had recused himself because he had one time spoken to a Russian ambassador, which was stupid. But you had a Democrat running it, who was a weakling. Comey and the president's enemies got control of the justice apparatus. Comey was real good at that.

What happened during George Bush's term? The Democrats through Comey and Patrick Fitzgerald got control of the apparatus. And that's how they ended. During Watergate, who had control? of the special counsel then, the Democrats. So you had three instances there where by cleverness or whatever you want to call it, the Democrats had control of the prosecutorial special counsel's office and had control of that apparatus and were gunning for the president or the president's men. That's the story of Watergate. That's the story of the Scooter Libby indictment. And that's the story of

of Robert Mueller. So basically, Comey and Rosenstein and McCabe all got together when Comey was fired, like it was just so terrible. How can he possibly fire us? We're just these great Democrats who hate Trump, and here he fires us. We've got to get back at Trump. So it was a Trump derangement syndrome on steroids when Trump fired Comey. And Comey, of course, was humiliated by it and had to get back. So there's no doubt about it. The whole Russia Geek thing was James Comey from start to finish. James Comey carrying Hillary Clinton's water originally to help Hillary later to skewer Trump. And the real villain in all this is the next FBI director after Mueller. As straight as Mueller is, Comey was just the opposite. He was a weaving spider. He was a partisan who acted like he was a

liver a Republican but wasn't. And he was clearly there to enhance the reputation of James Comey and appeal to the Democrats. He understood it. There's nobody that's more appealing than a supposed Republican who says, boy, look at me. I'm just a wonderful guy and I'm prosecuting a Republican. And that's James Comey. So this whole thing really can be looked at is James Comey, the next FBI guy, after Mueller, that James Comey, who was a friend of Mueller's, a very good friend of Mullers, who started this thing, hoping that Mueller, then he brought in all the deputies, all the guys who were really of Comey's ilk. They staffed that thing with all the partisans that they knew of, and these guys are very good prosecutors. They know what they're doing and they're partisans,

like this guy, Wiseman. And they went after, they went after, Trump. They just didn't get them, but it was just a thin blue line there named Robert Mueller. And it's really a tale of two prosecutors, one, an unctious, slimy guy, Comey, and another a straight arrow rock-ribbed guy, Bob Mueller, who got shot in the leg for our country. Who do you think? Now, how do you think honest historians will report or even remember Bob Mueller? Mueller in the future when the history books are continuing to be written here? Well, I wrote an article for that very purpose that hopefully somebody will actually read one of my

articles, which I think are pretty good, but I don't get them published in the New York Times. But I've tried to put that down on paper, but I think his memory will be pretty good. He's a down-the-middle guy. Now, the people who hate Trump will talk about how, gee, he almost. prosecuted Trump and so forth and so on. But it almost got him. And they'll just say, well, Mueller went after him and almost got him, you know, and wrote a report that said that Trump, that they can't exonerate Trump. They're not going to prosecute him, but they can't exonerate, which is what their deputies put in the report. So they left the cloud. The Mueller report left a cloud

over Trump. And that will be the way it is reported generally that Trump narrowly escaped, that Mueller went after him properly, and maybe properly did not prosecute him, but boy, he should have had him. I mean, it was really nip and tuck about getting him, whereas my view is this was a farce and a canard from day one, the whole Russia Geek thing, but he would have been prosecuted if it were not for Robert Mueller being in there. And we are. are we should breathe a sigh of relief. And prove normal solid citizens, Democrat or Republican, should be very, very honoring of Robert Mueller for being in there. If it weren't for that, if you had more of a partisan, and you know, Rosenstein could have appointed the more of a partisan guy.

And those deputies were just foaming at the mouth to get Trump. Boy, weren't that. His history, the history of this country would have been changed. And so we should, and we were very lucky because he was running, his batteries were running out. I think he had Parkinson's, at least back in 2019, he had some kind of cognitive problem back in 2019 when he was testifying. And the Washington Post had reported that in this last year in Russia Gate, he was barely coming into the office. So that's not Robert Mueller. Bob Mueller gets in at 7 o'clock and he leaves at 7 o'clock.

I've worked with him, and he wears a white shirt and tie every day and doesn't mess around and eats at his desk for 15 minutes, has somebody get him his lunch. That's Bob Mueller. And at the end of his time in that office, he was not coming in or just barely coming in and was not – he did not have his fastball. So we were lucky. We're really lucky, but he's the kind of guy. If I were sick or infirm as he was, I probably would have resigned.

But he didn't. He's not the kind of guy that's going to resign anything. He's going to basically be a Marine and stay in that office. And he did. And then he told Attorney General Barr the right thing. He said, no, we did not indict Trump because we didn't think we had evidence. The deputies were furious because they wanted the. world to say that Trump was really guilty, but gosh, they weren't going to indict a city president

or come up with some stupid reason like that. But that wasn't the reason. The reason was they didn't have guilt. But the deputies were trying to spin it that Trump was really guilty, and they just didn't charge him. So Mueller, though, his findings were clear that there was no collusion. He told that to Barr. Barr announced that there's still a furious battle going on because the deputies didn't like the fact that Barr was not going along with their very partisan narrative about the whole thing. So, like I say, he was crawling over the finish line. And Trump later, of course, was terrible to Mueller after he died, was not happy with Barr, with Bill Barr, and made even nasty comments about Don McGahn after Don McGahn left.

But all of these people were basically sure. straight-aero Republicans who protected Trump from his worst excesses, and rightly so. And rightly so. They weren't protecting them on partisan grounds. They were protecting the process of this country. But Trump does not understand that, that there are people there that really believe in the law and that there's straight arrows. And Trump was wrongly pursued in so many different avenues.

but he's got to figure out who's who's his friend and who's not his friend. And oddly enough, no matter what he may have said the other day, Mueller ended up befriending the Trump administration by protecting him from a rogue prosecution is really what happened. Right, right. And he didn't do it out of friendship with Trump. He did it because it was the right thing to do. But Trump should have a picture of Mueller on his mantle and say, thank God our country has people like Bob Mueller. He's not, Mueller did not act out of friendship to Trump. He's not that kind of guy. Yeah, as you had mentioned, it was about adhering to the law into the process. All right. You know, that's a very alternative. It's an alternative view of this, and I wanted to get that.

It's a very nuanced view of that. And I appreciate that, John. John O'Connor, once again, a former federal prosecutor, experienced trial lawyer. Do you have that article up on Postgatebook.com? Where can people read this post-mortem on Bob? Well, it should be coming out today in the blaze. The blaze, okay. They got it. They got it. I gave it to them Sunday, but they take a while to make sure everything's right into the punctuation and all that. So they take a while before they put something on their site. So I think it should be out today, but they've accepted it for publication, and they liked it. And it is the most nuanced view out there, and I think it's the correct one. I mean, you know, I kind of. Most people write about this don't know what they're talking about.

I mean, I'm not only a friend of Mueller, that has no bearing on this, but I'm a former prosecutor. And I kind of followed this and I understand it. And so I think it's the best take, just very egotistically, I might say. But so hopefully people will look at it and see that what I say makes some sense. All right. John, I really appreciate the take, and I appreciate your talks and legal acumen and bringing a bear on here. And as far as the Supreme Court conversation from yesterday, we'll talk about that another time, all right? You'd be well.

Yeah. I think they're going to, they'll rule that you have to get the ballots in by that election day, I think. Yeah, I think they're going to do that too, all right? Another time, my friend, be well. Thank you. Soon now. John O'Connor once again. Find out more about him, postgatebook.com.

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Let me go to Diana Anderson. Diana Anderson had an event, well, we're supposed to have an event last Friday at the Central Point Library. Wasn't that right, Diana? Good to have you on. Yeah, one couple came, thinking it was at 5 o'clock, and they came early at 5 before 5 and found the library closed. Yeah, what happened to the library? What happened? We have no idea. I called my friend, who's the librarian in another location, and she tried to get a hold of the girls that were staffed at Central Point Library, but we couldn't get a hold of them. Yeah, so anyway, you were going to put on an event, the Dark Seeds of Oregon's 2040 Vision and Action Plan.

Yeah, this is the second time that I've had problems getting into that room. Uh-huh. So it happened last February or January I had to cancel everything. All right, but you're going to do one, you're going to do a makeup tonight, right? Yes. All right. at six o'clock. I'm going to do the dark seeds of Oregon's 2040 vision and action plan.

And then again, in Roe Griver, I'll be doing the same program at 6 o'clock at the Roe Griver Library. All right. So this time you're branching out. Okay. So Central Point tonight, 6.15. 6 o'clock, 6.15. Road River Library, Thursday, the night at 6 o'clock.

Yes, I mean, when I'm kind of wondering about, you know, because you're going down the, you know, American society being restructured into fuel systems through planning through the 15-minute cities, which we're calling climate-friendly equitable communities, you know, here in Medford. And it is part of that vision, that vision planning here. You know, I'm kind of curious, do you dig into the grant stream funding and how most of that comes through transportation grants, like what happened with the city of Medford? Do you discuss that? Do you go down that rabbit hole? Well, I do it because I always like to tie CFA development or 20-minute neighborhoods with smart growth and the Soviet urban development. But through the auspices of the metro regional government, metro or the Roque Valley Council of Governments, they get their directions from the Department of Transportation.

But I would also add that I think a way to fight that, and this is why it's so important to pay attention to your city councils, your city councils approve these grants that do things like rebuild Main Street under the guise of, you know, bicycle bumways, you know, all that kind of stuff. You know, it matters, doesn't it? This is one lever that you could use to fight, could you not? Well, I think that's what attracts most people is the idea that they won't be able to move around like they did before. or the threats that they won't have a car anymore, which is built right into the definition at Medford City Department on what a climate-friendly is to travel and get all your goods and services within just a few minutes

without a car, quote, without a car. So, but the, also they get federal community block grants, too. So if the city of Memphis, Medford that has assigned the task force, Vision 2040 Task Force, and they're not just for Medford. Medford is just a qualifying metro area for all of southern Oregon. So, for instance, Grants Pass, Rogue River, and Gold Hill are within what they call the Middle Rogue. That's what you had mentioned last time you're on, yeah. All right.

So, okay, we don't have time to really go down all these various things here, but I did want to make sure that people knew that what happened Friday, last Friday, with the closure of the Central Point Library. Hopefully that's not going to be happening tonight. So tonight it'll be 615 at the Central Point Library for this meeting. All right. Also, in April, we'll be doing kind of open up the doors on everything, open up, let the cat out of the bag.

I'm doing a presentation on technocracy, stealing a freedom, knowledge, thought, and reason. Yeah, well, I've been talking a lot with Patrick Wood. I bet you're reading a lot of his stuff and you wanted to do a presentation. We'll tell you more about that when the time comes. I also want to say, though, that people know tonight, though, Central Point Library 615, Thursday night, Rogue River Library at 6, right? Yes. Okay.

Handouts and all sorts of other information free to attend. Okay. Diana, thank you. All right. Just run out of time. Want to make sure get the stuff out there, getting educated on this and understanding the basis of all this climate-friendly stuff. 857. Hi, KBD. Good morning. Who's this? Welcome. Good morning, Bill. Deplorable Patrick here. Am I on? Yes, you are on, DP. Well, I'll jam this in this. I've been wanting to ask in this earlier section with John Connor reminded me, what's going on? I was here. hearing James Comey was still, you could reinstate charges. And we were hearing about John Brennan, he was really squirman and Clapper and Comey. And why aren't we hearing anything more about him and Bolton in handcuffs?

And all of a sudden, we're not hearing anything more about that. What's going on there? I would have to ask him about this. I couldn't really answer that question. It's a good question, though. All right. Appreciate it. Yeah.

Appreciate it, Bill. All right. Next time I will have him come on. All right. Okay. You know, speaking of that conversation with John O'Connor, Granny writes me, I'm going to give her an email of the day because I agree with her, even though it runs counterintuitive to the narrative we would heard recently. Bill, Robert Mueller probably saved this country. Yeah, I think it's what John O'Connor was getting at. And I didn't realize that he was in such bad shape, as bad as shape as he was.

was at the very end and probably never really wanted to be in that office in the first place. And he kept the rogue prosecutors at bay. And I think for that we can really, I mean, rest in peace, Bob Mueller. That's all we can say. And hopefully that will become better known over time. Emails of the day, sponsored by Dr. Steve Nelson and Central Point Family Dentistry, Centralpoint Family Dentistry.com. And you'll find it over on, Freeman Road right next to the Monson-Lond Mexican restaurant. Great people. While you wait, crowns, they have an in-house lab.

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